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Evil won't win. #92
The assassination of Charlie Kirk has left America reeling, confronting us with profound questions about our political discourse and shared humanity. At just 31 years old, Kirk—founder of Turning Points USA, husband, and father of two young children—was gunned down while doing what he dedicated his life to: engaging with college students and fellow Americans in open dialogue.
Kirk often said, "When we stop talking, that's when violence can occur"—a statement that carries devastating weight in the wake of his death. The tragedy represents not just the loss of a conservative voice, but an attack on the fundamental American principle that we battle with ideas, not bullets. In his final days, Kirk was embodying precisely what our polarized nation needs: willingness to engage with those who disagree.
The response to Kirk's death reveals both hopeful unity and troubling division. Political figures from Bernie Sanders to Cenk Uygur condemned the violence without reservation. Uygur, despite past clashes with Kirk, powerfully stated that violence represents "a cowardly form of surrender" and the "opposite of being progressive." Yet alongside these voices of reason, disturbing celebrations of Kirk's death emerged online, demonstrating how political dehumanization has poisoned our discourse.
Kirk's own words about NFL quarterback Lamar Jackson now resonate with particular poignancy: "You could be a Democrat, you could be on the left, I don't care. Jesus is honestly the most important thing." In a final recorded message that now serves as his testimony, Kirk emphasized that knowing Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior matters infinitely more than political affiliation.
As we navigate this national tragedy, we must honor Kirk's legacy by rejecting violence, embracing dialogue, and remembering that beneath our political differences, we remain fellow Americans bound by more common ground than division. How will you contribute to healing our divided nation?
Hello everyone. I'm terribly sad the last few days and I'm sorry if anyone wanted to hear my voice about this sooner, but I and a husband, a son, friend to many. His life has been taken from us by an assassin's bullet in the state of Utah as he was trying to engage with college students, voters, his fellow Americans that he often disagreed with. He tried to have public debate. He said on several times when we stop talking, that's when violence can occur. And sadly, charlie Clark lost his life for just using his voice. And I want to read you a verse. This will be our verse of the day. I'm not going to have my podcast as formalized as I normally do. I'm not going to read the Apostles Creed or the Lord's Prayer. I just want to talk about these issues, talk from the heart, tell you what Charlie Kirk meant to me, meant to many Americans and Christians, and discuss the horrible situation. If you have any children nearby, I would suggest listening to this podcast at over time. Put it on some headphones. I'm going to try my best to contain myself, but I might have to talk about some things that are hard to deal with. I want to read you guys a verse that I read my Bible study at church on Wednesday right after I saw the gruesome murder of our brother in Christ, charlie Kirk, for I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, nor the present nor the future, nor any powers, nor life, nor death, nor anything else in all creation will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus, our Lord. Amen. Charlie Kirk, right now, as we speak, is with God. He is in heaven with the Lord of Lords and King of Kings that he served, and I'm heartbroken. He was 31 years old, one son, one daughter all under the age of five, I believe and a heartbroken wife and mother, and the country mourns his loss. Well, the good part of the country mourns his loss, at least. I want to talk to Sir Charlie Kirk. He would go around college campuses and try to debate people, try to get them to change their minds on many things, many important things like abortion, transgenderism, socialism.
Speaker 1:Now, many people will probably stay away from Charlie Kirk because he was political. He was very much like me in the sense that he was not afraid to use politics as well as religion, and he did it in the best way possible and he did it in the best way possible and he spoke with love and kindness. Did he say some things that I disagree with? Yeah, did he say some things that I wish maybe he should have rephrased or something? Yeah, but no one should die for having a different opinion than you, even if that opinion sometimes goes into bigotry. I don't believe we should kill bigots. I believe we should convert them. But Charlie Kirk was not a bigot, he was not a white supremacist, he was not a Nazi and he was not a fascist. And I'm sick and tired. I've been called those names. I was called those names.
Speaker 1:Today, online, I have seen people say that with their own mouths, our fellow Americans call Christians, conservatives, nazis and fascists, forming quote-unquote anti-fascist groups. Did it shock me when it happened? Yes, but we have seen this time and time again from the far, far left, radicalized violence, and I agree 100% that there is radicalized violence on the right and evil on the right, and I don't want to say I don't want to get into a contest of who is more violent than who, but I do want to say this um, I believe that the democrat party has been influenced very heavily, but not fully, by demonic spirits, by satan himself, by demonic spirits, by Satan himself. Now, if my dad's listening, it would shock him, but if he was actually listening, listening to me, he would realize that I never disagreed with the fact that he had a foothold within the party. You look at the party's platform of transgenderism, of transforming children into a gender or sex that they do not belong to, harming and mutilating their bodies and their minds, killing unborn babies all the way up to the moment of birth, pushing for these things that will hurt our country. Now are there democrats that believe in these policies, that um believe that democratic party is better than the republican party for america, that love god, that are, even if they're not christian or they don't love god, that aren't demonically influenced? Yes, there's a ton of them, and I'm convinced there are more democrats like that, more democrat voters that are like that, that are good than are bad.
Speaker 1:I know a lady. I'm not saying that she's a Democrat, but she doesn't vote the same way I do. We go to church together. I sit pretty close to her and she's always nice to me. She's always cordial. She knows I'm a Republican and I know that she doesn't like Donald Trump. I've never brought up politics to her because when I see her worship, when I see her raise her hands, I do see a love for God. And when she talks to me, she talks to me like I'm a human being. So guess what? I talk to her like she's a human being, like she's my sister in Christ, because she is, and we might vote for a different party, we might have a different perspective, but she's my fellow American and she's my sister in Christ. We go to the same church people. We sit next to each other. So that's why I'm saying do not. I'm not at all calling all Democrats demonicly influenced. I'm not calling all Democrat voters evil and I'm not calling all Democrat politicians evil, because that would be wrong. And that is part of the reason why Charlie Kirk is dead today.
Speaker 1:It is people using rhetoric that is overcharged, that is, misconceptions, and people propagating misconceptions and false beliefs on someone else is getting people killed and it got charlie kirk killed. The assassin who, whose name I will not mention, has been turned in. His dad basically forced him to turn himself in and his dad is a hero for that and because his dad must know that his, the son, the life of his son will be forever changed and he will probably get the death penalty in the state of utah. But, um, I believe his dad was a christian. His son was in rebellion. He had been radicalized over the past few years, getting more and more political Nothing wrong with being political, but he was getting violent. He was finding people on the internet, on apps like Discord, with other quote-unquote anti-fascists, and I just want to say something. I agree with the term anti-fascist, I'm against fascism, but these anti-fascists are closer to fascist than they realize. They use political violence and hate to spread their messages, and a young, 31-year-old man was cut down in his prime purely out of cowardness. That individual knew how effective Charlie Kirk was, and Charlie was effective, how smart he was.
Speaker 1:I believe that there has been a turning of the tides in the United States. I believe that there has been a turning of the tides in the United States and we are starting to go back to better days. People are becoming more conservative, younger people are becoming more conservative. A large part of that was because of Charlie Kirk, but we're not going to let that man or his evil quote-unquote anti-fascist that try to take our lives, and some of them will slow us down. We will fight for free speech, we will fight for the unborn and we will spread the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1:I have a sign ministry that I need to be more active in. I need to do it more and this is motivating me more to go back. I'm going to be safe, I'm going to listen to the counsel of my wife, but I know every time I go on to the corner of some place holding a sign that says repent, believe the gospel, holding the cross, I have a cross for people to look at every time I do that there's a chance I might not come back home. Christianity has a long list of martyrs and that will not stop until Christ comes back. I was thinking to myself, as I think all of us do why does God spare some people from evil?
Speaker 1:but not others and I don't know God's divine sovereign plan completely, with the death of Charlie Kirk, I have a few ideas that God might take it, but I don't understand why God would spare Donald Trump and not Charlie Kirk. And if you're a Christian and you watch the footage, it's very obvious that God spared Donald Trump's life as he moved his head a few inches away from the bullet, seconds away from the shot, seconds away from the shot, but he did not spare Charlie Kirk. If you had the unfortunate of seeing the horrible evil video, I'm sorry I had to see it. It scarred me, I don't. It would have scarred me no matter who it was. And then when I see that I know that this is the, this is the evil, it would have scarred me no matter who it was.
Speaker 1:And then when I see that I know that this is the evil, that there is no, this is nothing more than pure evil, demonically influenced, to shut up a man that proudly proclaimed the gospel of Jesus Christ and proudly proclaimed the gospel of Jesus Christ and proudly proclaimed the truth. I believe the devil's mad. I believe the devil is upset. He knows he's going to lose and he's going to kill, steal and destroy as many of us as he can. He's not going to win. It doesn't matter how long he's been here and how smart he is or how smart he thinks he is. Devil is going to lose.
Speaker 1:One of the greatest lies ever told and believed by people is the devil convinced the world that he did not exist, when he very, very much does, when evil very much exists. But how do you contrast evil? When this happened, I was hurt. I'm still hurt and I told my wife I do want, not want to live in the same country as these people that would take innocent life, no matter if it's Charlie Kirk or if it's an AME church in South Carolina, if it's Steve Scalise at a baseball game, if it's Gretchen Whitner, if it's Josh Shapiro, if it's two lawmakers in Minnesota that are Democrats, if it's Donald Trump. I don't want to live in the same country as these people.
Speaker 2:So where does that leave us?
Speaker 1:we have a couple options. We could get violent, but that's never worked in history, as history has shown us. Option two we can do what St Patrick did and go to Ireland and cast out all the snakes. By casting out all the snakes, he converted people to the gospel. And I've said for years now politics is a small part of the spiritual battle that we are having. So I'm going to try to go out and win souls.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to shy away from politics when I become a pastor. Well, let me rephrase that if I become a pastor and when I'm speaking boldly the gospel of Christ, as he gives me the Holy Spirit and the courage to do so, and not of myself, I'm not going to avoid political issues, because you just don't mix politics and religion. I'm sorry. Abortion's a sin. Homosexuality is a sin. It's evil. Now I will say this is a sin, it's evil. I'm out. I will say this I do think it's a shame for anyone to get behind the altar and the pulpit of God and endorse a political candidate or a political party. I'm not going to do that, but I am going to boldly proclaim truth every chance that I get. And I understand that we are all sinners. But we can't keep allowing for unborn babies to be murdered. We can't keep allowing these evil sins inflicting our country and inflicting us. You can say what does it affect me? What does it affect you? It does affect me when you're robbing me of my fellow countrymen, when you're killing them, when you're cutting them down in cold blood. It does affect me when God judges our nation, and he will and he does judge the nations still today.
Speaker 1:So I want to talk about a little bit of the rhetoric I'm seeing online. You might say it's the fringe and it's not the majority, but there's a big part of Democratic voters. They might not be party members, but voters that are celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk Just like the demon celebrated the death of Jesus. I'm not calling Charlie Kirk Jesus, I'm just saying the pictures seem so similar to me Yelling, celebrating the death of a good man who was cut down in his prime, then celebrating God's death. Both are demonic, both are evil. You might say it's just the internet. Internet it's not the real world, and I understand we should not live on the internet and we should go touch grass. But people, real people want Charlie Kirk dead. Real people would want all us conservative Christians to be dead. That's the truth. They would not care. They would love it. Now, that's the minority, but it's the minority, but it's a minority that seems like it's too large for me to ignore. I will give people some credit.
Speaker 1:On the other side of the aisle, bernie Sanders condemned this, cenk Uygur condemned this, president Obama condemned this and said he was praying for Charlie no-transcript. And a ton of politicians are condemning this. On the left side which is a good thing We've become so partisan that we just hate each other. We hate each other because we they're on a different political team. We call each other evil Democrats, evil Republicans, Nazis, nazis and communists.
Speaker 1:I had I there's, there's someone I know and I love and I tell them all the time you've got to stop calling Democrats evil, you gotta stop calling communists. You have to stop demonizing them in your mind and in your heart. Well, I'm not saying all of them, but they're either dumb, ignorant. They're either dumb or ignorant. I realize those are different words with different meanings. I'm using them intentionally. They either don't know or they're just stupid, or they're demonic and there's no other option.
Speaker 1:And I'll say well, what if they look at things differently than us? What if they see economics different and caring for the poor? And what if they see stuff about the illegal immigrants and they say we are being cruel? And there's always an excuse for him. And it breaks my heart Because I know there are people on the other side that are good. But yeah, but with lies there's always a grain of truth.
Speaker 1:And I definitely do think the Democratic Party is demonically influenced. I do. You can call me crazy, you can call me evil. Listen, if you're a Democrat and you love Jesus and you have a different reason to vote than I do, different political perspective, and that's fine, we're on the same team. I just think that you're off on your viewpoints. I want to read you something Charlie Kirk said and Charlie Kirk, I think, would agree with me on this, because I heard him say some stuff very similar to this. So just to give backstory, uh, the quarterback for the baltimore ravens, my rival, retweeted charlie kirk about a week or two ago when he was on Fox News. So recently Telling people I'm just going to let Charlie take it from here is getting the backlash, maybe because you're not allowed to retweet a conservative personality.
Speaker 3:And I just want to say to Lamar Jackson I said this on my podcast as well you are more than welcome in this big movement that we are building. We don't have to grant anything except Jesus. Lamar, you could be a Democrat, you could be on the left, I don't care. Jesus is honestly the most important thing. I think Lamar Jackson is getting the backlash maybe because you're not so that's what he said.
Speaker 1:You can be a leftist, you can be a Democrat. Jesus is the most important thing. So I tell my friends that on my side of the aisle that vote Republican, that are conservative, before just calling all Democrats evil or dumb, think twice, because that's part of what got Charlie killed. We have to stop calling faking to each other as enemies. That doesn't mean that we have to agree with the other party. That doesn't mean we can't even think that the other party has some demonic influence. But there are good people, godly Christians that are Democrats. It might seem like an oxymoron to us on this side of the aisle, but it's true. And for Democrats, if there's any listening to me right now, there are good people on our side too.
Speaker 1:Cenk Uygur, a very big progressive, for years on the internet has run the YouTube channel and podcast called the young turks. Him and charlie kirk had a huge spat one time where they were screaming at each other um, you'd have to look that up and um. But they kind of patched things up and um became and became more cordial toward each other. And I mean and Charlie, and listen, cenk is a. Cenk grew up as a Muslim. He's an atheist, but he grew up as a Muslim, so he's not saved and we need to pray for him. But I want you to listen to Cenk Uygur's response, who could sometimes be categorized pretty close to a socialist. I'm not using that as a negative and I'm not using that as a down toward him, but he's a progressive and I want you to listen to what Cenk has to say here.
Speaker 4:Charlie Kirk has been shot. He was in Utah giving a speech at a college and unfortunately, I just found out that he's passed away. It is beyond tragic, it's disgusting, it's terrible. It's the worst thing that has happened in American media and politics in a long time. So this violence is not the answer. It is the very worst possible answer. We don't know who did it, uh, and if some of you might have seen an older guy getting dragged away by the police, it turns out they released him. He's not the guy, uh. So they haven't caught the guy yet, but I can't believe he passed away. I can't believe it. So he's gone.
Speaker 4:And violence is surrender. It's saying that you, you can't win in the battlefield of ideas. What a terrible, terrible message to send and that you have to be barbaric and you have to be violent and you have to be a savage when you have to just shut that person down physically because you can't defeat them with your ideas. What a cowardly form of surrender. What a disgusting thing to do. How deeply immoral. This is a terrible, terrible day, because so not only do I know Charlie and you can say hey, he said bad things in the past, who cares who? That's not the point today. Okay, it doesn't matter what people said. You never do violence, never. That's the exact opposite of being a progressive. It makes no sense at all. We're against violence. If you do violence, you're not one of us. You're disgusting, you're immoral and you're deeply counterproductive. Anytime one side does violence, it makes everyone else hate them, rightfully so. So none of our side should ever, ever do that. Plus, he's a human being. I met him and his wife behind, uh, the scenes, etc. They're human beings, no matter how much we agree or disagree with anyone.
Speaker 4:This is just terrible, guys. This is going to lead to worse and worse violence. I hope to God it doesn't. I hope that America regains its senses and gets back to peace and civility, but this is not the way. This is terrible. I feel awful for Charlie's family, obviously for Charlie. Stop, stop all of the violence. This is the problem. This is not the way to solve it. So it's an absolutely tragic day and my heart goes out to his entire family. I'm so sorry that this happened to anyone. I just can't believe it. All right, guys, please, everyone, nothing but good thoughts and prayers for Charlie's family.
Speaker 1:Cenk is right and I could even see that Shank was hurting. I'll report and say Charlie's a really good man. He's only 31 years old. He started Turning Points, usa, I think, when he was 18 or 19. And he didn't go to college, but he would debate people. Go to college campuses and he would debate them. He'd say you have a different opinion? Come, change my mind. He he tried to get people to talk but disagreed so violence wouldn't happen.
Speaker 1:And what am I supposed to do when I have people on my side of the aisle that were already on the edge of of hating their neighbor and they see this when Charlie Kirk was one of the most mild toast, nice, nicest, could serve if you could get it. This wasn't Matt Walsh. And listen, I'm not saying Matt Walsh, that should have happened to him, god forbid. But Matt Walsh just said some stuff that was a whole lot more hurtful than Charlie. And I understand, listen, when you do radio for a long period of time, even the short life that Charlie had you're going to say some stuff you regret and you're going to say things that people take out of context. Stephen King, the horror author, said Charlie Kirk called for gay people to be stoned. That's not true. It's a lie. It's disgusting that he would say that Now. Did Charlie Kirk read a Bible verse from Leviticus that said homosexuality is a sin and they should be stoned to death? Yes, he did, but I was having a conversation with my grandfather, who's a minister, who I interviewed shortly ago, and he brought that up. Should he get stoned to death? What the law is showing us is how holy God is that we are not, and the vast majority of us would have been stoned to death in the Old Testament. That's what they leave out. Charlie Kirk didn't want that. He knew he lived under the new testament of grace.
Speaker 1:Um pray for the Kirk family two beautiful children who were robbed of having a father, a wife robbed of her husband, a mother robbed of her son and the nation robbed of her voice and the free exchange of ideas because a coward was too afraid that he was losing the debate. And when you keep calling people Hitler and Nazis, someone's going to kill you eventually, or someone's going to try to, or someone's going to kill you eventually, or someone's going to try to, or someone's going to have the idea to, because Hitler was a horrible human being. That's the thing you are making. When you call Charlie Kirk Hitler, who are two different people with two very different ideologies, you diminish how evil Hitler was. He was evil and Charlie was good, and Charlie is in heaven and he is still good.
Speaker 1:Our nation is hurting. I'm hurting, I mean. I'm still devastated. But I am glad that the shooter, the killer of Charlie Kirk, is now in custody and I pray he is brought to the fullest extent of the law, something I have changed my mind on since starting this podcast.
Speaker 1:When I started this podcast podcast, I was against the death penalty and now I'm for it, because I always knew that the old testament called for death penalty, but I never really said. I always said no, I don't. I don't think that is true in the new, but someone pointed out to me in romans 13 that government has the right to bear the sword and I believe they have the duty to, as a deterrent of evil and to leave this man's life alone, to not take this. If this man's truly guilty and it is, I'm sure it is I am to let him live and Charlie be dead. You're slapping the face of his widow and his children and you're slapping the face of the country, and I understand that I 100% want us to have 100% proof before we execute the death penalty. 100% want us to have 100% proof before we execute the death penalty. But if you murder someone in cold blood and you don't have a mental and you do not have a mental disability or illness, according to Romans 13, the Bible, god's Word, you should be put to death. This guy should be put to death. This guy should be put to death Not by a vigilante or a rogue agent that would be unlawful, that would be sinful but by the government God's instituted.
Speaker 1:And if we don't do that, we're saying that Charlie's Kirk was worth less than this scumbag, than this anti, than this quote unquote anti-fascist, left wing nut job. Scum that's what he is, and if he was right wing, I would have said he was a right wing scumbag too, because he is. He is a scumbag. This should not be acceptable. This is not acceptable. I'm not okay with this. I'm not okay with an african-american church in south carolina getting shot up for the color of their skins. I'm not okay when someone kills innocent children in an elementary school. I'm not okay when someone kills someone with a knife on the subway. That's a ukrainian refugee. I'm not okay when someone kills someone with a knife on the subway. That's a Ukrainian refugee. I'm not okay when someone gets shot with a microphone in their hands spreading truth. I'm not okay with that and I never will be.
Speaker 1:And you, the listener, should not be. And we must fight against it by embracing our calling. It doesn't have to be political, it by embracing our calling. It doesn't have to be political, but embracing your calling and not living in fear. Do it for America, do it for Charlie. There will always be martyrs and Charlie Kirk, make no mistake, is a martyr for the conservative movement.
Speaker 1:But he also personally, and you can disagree with me, I believe he's a martyr for the conservative movement. But he also personally, and you could disagree with me, I believe he's a martyr for the gospel. Because you could say well, it was a political killing, not a gospel killing. That guy saw it as one and the same, and I do too. That doesn't mean his political beliefs are all correct or that you have to be a Republican I'm not saying that. But that guy that shot him from the rooftop, I don't think he cared if he separated a biblical opinion from a political opinion. Charlie Kirk is a martyr of the faith and a martyr of conservatism, and I will not forget him. I will not forget him. He did more in 31 years than most of us, myself included, could do in 100. God bless him and I'm heartbroken for him, but I'm rejoicing that he is at the hands of God and that God is still in control. God knew this would happen, and that could make you feel upset and angry, but also can make you feel secure, knowing that God had a plan for Charlie, that God has a plan for you and me.
Speaker 1:Every single one of the twelve apostles, except John, was murdered, but their blood, that's pled on the ground, rose up. More Christians. Every time Christians got persecuted and fed to lions, every time we were beheaded and crucified, more Christians rose up. Why? Because they saw Christ People dying for their faith. And the people would say who would do that? Who would die for their faith? Who would die for a lie? Who would, especially the disciples, who would die for a lie? If they knew that Jesus didn't rise from the dead? All they would have to say is Jesus did not rise from the dead. I made it all up and they would have walked scot free, but they didn't. Because Jesus did raise from the grave, because Jesus is God and the gospel is true. I want to leave you. I want to play a small clip from Charlie Kirk about his faith in God, and then I want to leave you with something else. I'll play it here in a second. I think you'll understand why.
Speaker 3:I have 30 seconds left to live. I'm dying from a gunshot wound. But what would you actually want to tell me if I have 30 seconds left to live? Boy, you've got 30 seconds. In 30 seconds, you're about to meet eternal judgment, and there's only one way that you can get bailed out of that. It's not all the good things you did or the moral scorecard. It's whether or not you have Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and that's the only thing that's going to matter. And so you got 10 seconds left.
Speaker 3:You're dying from a gunshot wound and you ask the question who is Jesus Christ? And the answer to that singular question who is Jesus Christ is the most important question for everyone in the audience, not how much money you have, not how much good stuff you do. It is who is Jesus Christ? You might say, oh, jesus was, you know, a teller of good tales, or Jesus was a good person, or Jesus was a historical figure. None of that's going to cut it. It's whether or not you repent and you ask Christ to come in as your Lord and Savior.
Speaker 1:That's the only thing that will save you from eternal death. Charlie was right it's not your good works. Now, all salvation does produce good works, but our good works do not save us. It's only by faith and grace alone, christ Jesus alone. Charlie is a great man. He definitely could have ended up being president one day. I remember him as a patriot, a conservative, a father.
Speaker 1:I remember him as a husband, but before all that I'm going to remember him as my brother in Christ. I will see again. If you're hurt, it's okay to be hurt I'm hurt. If you've cried, it's okay to cry I've cried. If you're flustered and mad, it's okay, but put those energies in the right direction. We don't want to see any more of this from any side and I want to see more people saved and bought by the blood of Jesus Christ. Let's pray.
Speaker 1:Dear Jesus, thank you for the life of Charlie Kirk. Let his death be turned into good. Let the evil of the world tried to inflict on our brother and did I know it will fall. I pray that you will be with his family, his mom, his dad, his family, his mom, his dad, his kids, his wife, his loved ones, his friends and family and his followers that never knew him. I never knew him, he never knew me, but I know who he was and you know who he is. I pray you'll be with is. I pray you'll be with him. I pray you'll give him comfort. Thank you for his life. Let us know how to live a better life Because of him, because of you. We pray this in the name of Jesus, amen.
Speaker 1:Guys, I do want to play one more short video From a man whose life was also taken by an assassin's bullet, who also could have been president, like Charlie.
Speaker 1:Charlie very well could have ended up being president of the United States In a Republican year. I definitely believe he could have ended up being President of the United States in a Republican year. I definitely believe he could have absolutely and I'm talking about Robert F Kennedy, whose life was taken from him and he gave a speech about another man who was also taken by an assassin's bullet. This should not happen. In the United States of America, we have the right to have free speech and exchange in ideas and anytime an assassin takes your life with a bullet, he is robbing you of that right and he's robbing people of you to hear that idea. We battle ideas in America with our mouths and with our minds, never with a gun, never with a knife. And if you do so, you are admitting defeat and you're telling the other person that they have won and you are going down to the last wire to eliminate them because you hate them and their ideas, everyone.
Speaker 2:I'm going to play you the video of RFK speech after the tragic night of Martin Luther King's death for King's death Very sad news for all of you and, I think, sad news for all of our fellow citizens and people who love peace all over the world, and that is that Martin Luther King was shot and was killed tonight in Memphis, tennessee. Martin Luther King dedicated his life to love and to justice between fellow human beings. He died in the cause of that effort. In this difficult day, in this difficult time for the United States, it's perhaps well to ask what kind of a nation we are and what direction we want to move in. Considering the evidence evidently is that there were white people who were responsible. You can be filled with bitterness and with hatred and a desire for revenge. We can move in that direction as a country in greater polarization black people amongst blacks and white amongst whites, filled with hatred toward one another. Or we can make an effort, as Martin Luther King did, to understand and to comprehend and replace that violence, that stain of bloodshed that is spread across our land, with an effort to understand, compassion and love. For those of you who are black and are tempted to be filled with hatred and distrust of the injustice of such an act against all white people, I would only say that I can also feel in my own heart the same kind of feeling. I had a member of my family killed, but he was killed by a white man. But we have to make an effort in the United States. We have to make an effort to understand, to get beyond or go beyond these rather difficult times.
Speaker 2:A favorite poem, my favorite poet, was Aeschylus. He once wrote. Poet was Aeschylus. He once wrote even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God.
Speaker 2:What we need in the United States is not division. What we need in the United States is not hatred. What we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love and wisdom and compassion toward one another, feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black. We can do well in this country. We will have difficult times. We've had difficult times in the past and we will have difficult times in the future. It is not the end of violence, it is not the end of lawlessness and it's not the end of disorder, but the vast majority of white people and the vast majority of white people and the vast majority of black people in this country want to live together, want to improve the quality of our life and want justice for all human beings that abide in our land. God bless you all.
Speaker 1:Dedicate ourselves to that and say a prayer for our country and for our people. Thank you very much. God bless you all and, as the former secretary, robert F Kennedy, said, let's say a prayer for our country. Keep praying for our country, pray for the Kirk family. God bless you. Evil will not win.
