Tales from the Departure Lounge

Frequent Flyers Club (Christmas Special) December 2023

Andy Plant & Nick Cuthbert Season 2

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Ho-Ho-Ho! Seasons greetings from the TFTDL flight crew. Andy and Nick are joined by Masha Kostromitina from the Duolingo English Test team to celebrate the podcast reaching 10,000 downloads in just 10 months. A huge thank you to all our Frequent Flyers Club listeners and sponsors. You are the tea to our biscuit. 

We recap our 'TFTDL Radio' campaign - our shared playlist on Spotify - along with your stories about the celebrities you've met in airports. We wonder which country is first in the world to experience Christmas Day, and what colour coat Santa wears in Russia?

Wishing you all peace and happiness - and some high-definition headphones to keep you listening in 2024. Safe winter travels everyone.

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Andy

Okay, Marsha, welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for coming on to our Frequent Flyers Club

Masha

absolutely. Thank you for having me. I'm very excited.

Andy

And remind us where you're joining us from.

Masha

I am joining you from pittsburgh the u. s

Andy

And that's because you work for Duolingo English Test, who kindly sponsored our podcast so we've had you on to celebrate that and to say thank you.

Masha

Very happy that our company supports your beautiful podcast. Woo.

Nick

We couldn't do this really without the sponsors. So thank you so much to Duolingo And if Andy it feels like forever since we did one of these Not only is this a Christmas special

Andy

Ho ho ho.

Nick

we are celebrating hitting 10, 000 downloads.

Andy

This is crazy. to think that we've reached that many ears,

Masha

Huge congrats. It's so impressive. Amazing.

Wow.

Nick

should we have a drink to celebrate? Marsha, what would you be drinking at this time of year?

Masha

I will be drinking my go to cocktail that's called The Last Word. don't be alarmed, it's not a scary cocktail by any means, but it's sort of like a gin, chartreuse, uh, lime. served in a coupe usually. And, it's very festive.

Andy

Sounds delicious. What?

Masha

What about you?

Nick

At Christmas I do like Bailey's, which is one of these drinks that some people don't like at all. It's basically just cream with whiskey in it. And, you get to a point where you're having it every day. It starts to replace milk. So I then start putting it in drinks, cereal. So then January you've got to wean yourself off.

Andy

Yeah. Mine's quite festive. my, my wife and I, went to Poland and they had cherry vodka, which was delicious. So we came back and we made our own cherry vodka. And since then we've been making various vodkas and now we're down to raspberry vodka, at about six o'clock, we'll have a little nip but those nips are getting earlier and bigger every day,

Nick

moonshine.

Andy

jars of the stuff.

Nick

Marshu, your name is of Russian descent or Polish descent.

Masha

It's of Russian descent, yeah, I'm originally from Russia, uh, and I lived there basically until I turned 25, and moved to the States quite recently, in 2016.

Nick

in Russia, does Santa wear red or blue?

Masha

it depends, it really depends on, on the descent and their style, um, I would say red is probably The most common color, but I also think that it got kind of influenced by, the U. S. and the U. K. cultures. I have definitely seen blue Santas, or Santas in blue coats. And they usually match with their granddaughter, so Santa appears not with, Mrs. Claus. but Dad Moroz is what we call it. He usually appears with his granddaughter, who also wears blue and has a long braid, and both of them, join the festivities and give presents out and stuff.

Andy

is it Christmas Eve you celebrate, Christmas Day, what do you eat,

Masha

So it's kind of weird because Christmas happens after New Year's in 7th, and it's Christmas Day that we celebrate, And,, the food is just like your typical kind of hearty food, some chicken, like roasted chicken, some mashed potatoes, of course, potatoes are a must, at any Russian celebration, lots of vodka infused, not infused,

Nick

in the last episode, we talked a little bit about Russia and we discovered that it spans 10 time zones so it is this kind of continual Christmas day going on across Russia.

Masha

Oh, absolutely! Yeah, so we start in the Far East, right? That's where we, welcome the new year, and then it keeps going.

Andy

Amazing.

Nick

Andy, did you know which country celebrates Christmas first? In the world?

Masha

I'm gonna guess Australia, but

Andy

It's one of the islands, one of the Pacific Islands, isn't it? if only if it was Christmas Island.

Nick

I think it is Christmas Island, everyone. It

Masha

no way.

Nick

it's definitely one of the first, then New Zealand. Then I think Fiji comes after then Australia. I was looking this up because, some have changed time zone. There's loads of states in the U. S. that have changed time zone in the last couple of decades. So some people have actually moved, to get ahead of the game on Christmas.

Masha

the U. S. is crazy. There are some states that have two time zones in one state. Tennessee is one of them and Arizona actually, where half the state functions in one time zone and the other one in a different one.

Andy

There's halftime zones as well. I always remember India was like three and a half or five and a half hours

Masha

Oh, wow,

Andy

which yeah, half time zones.

Wow.

Andy

MArsha, you've been traveling as part of your job with Duolingo, and that's good for this podcast. Any tales you want to share with the audience?

Masha

I had to travel to Australia,, flying from LA to Sydney. And it's a really long flight, as you can imagine. so. During the flight there, I was sitting next to someone, and obviously I want to get myself comfy, so I took my shoes off, and the person next to me took their shoes off too, which I think is totally okay, I know some people are weirded out by that, I'm not, I think that's, that's totally fine, take your shoes off, make yourself comfortable, so both of us were sitting there, and then at some point I, fell asleep, and then that person next to me did too, and then I woke up for a bathroom break, And I was like, okay, I need to find my shoes to, to go to the bathroom. And it was dark, right? Cause it's in the middle of the night and you're flying. and basically I put shoes on, and then I made it to the bathroom and then I looked down because in the bathroom, you can actually turn the light on. Um. And I realized that those are not my shoes that I put on. And, and, and I was like, huh, these look, these feel a little loose, you know, like they're a little, a little bigger than I remembered. And then I looked down and they were just like a complete different pair of, Sneakers. and I was like, well, I mean, I made it halfway right? Might as well just get everything done and come back. And so, I went back to my seat and like very discreetly put those shoes back, back where they belonged and went back to sleep.

Andy

It's such an intimate thing. You're putting on somebody else's shoes, oh, that makes me feel all

Masha

I felt very connected. Yeah. I think we bonded with that person even though we never talked really, but But I feel, I feel a strong connection with them.

Nick

Back in episode six, we discussed what was classed as anti poo slippers. So slippers, shoes you can slip on and off so that you can get to the bathroom without getting your socks wet with whatever's going on in there. You've brought a new context. I feel like Someone may have worn my shoes to the bathroom and I'd never known.

Masha

Yeah,

Andy

Now they've got some of your bacteria on their feet, Nick.

Nick

I feel violated. That's it.

Andy

Have you ever woken up and somebody's asleep on your shoulder on a plane?

Masha

no, I actually have well except for like if it's someone I know like my husband or something someone no, have

Andy

Yeah, a couple of times. you just kind of, live with it, maybe stroke their head a little bit, whisper in their ear, no I'm joking,

Nick

on a long haul flight this year, I was in the window seat and needed the toilet. And I decided, the person next to me he had the mask on, he was just fast asleep, gone. So I thought, I can't wake him up. I'm gonna stand on my seat, and then walk across his armrests. And exit. But, midway through, I did think, what if he takes his mask off now? I was literally kind of crotch to face level. I think maybe I was like, I'm not sure which way around I was. I thought this is gonna terrify

Andy

Either way round is bad.

Nick

now. Well, I thought Absolute Ninja didn't wake up, went to the loo, came back. He was wide awake. So I'd obviously, unsettled him. He felt my presence.

Andy

He smelt your presence. It Could have ended so badly if he'd slipped.

Masha

Yeah.

Nick

and I was wearing his shoes.

Wow.

Andy

As part of our sponsorship with Duolingo, we set up a Duolingo English test playlist from Tales of Departure Nouns, and we asked our audience to contribute to it, didn't we?

Nick

I'm a fan of the old mixtape and streaming services have ruined that. So the next best thing is a shared playlist.

Andy

we had contributors from some of our previous guests. Jogvan, his dad is on there. Nick Golding asked for Suede. He was a massive fan. He actually had Suede at his birthday party.

Nick

Yes.

Andy

WE had, Dawn of Victory by Rhapsody of Fire. Some ROCK from Carl Campbell.

Nick

And he wanted it next to Steps from Rachel McSween.

Andy

The XX album from Grotag. Black Betty from, Kay Wilkinson. so many good tunes.

Nick

Lee from Duolingo. Huge Forrest fan, so he wanted Mull of Kintyre on there. Nottingham Forrest fan anthems.

Andy

What's your go to travel music, Marsha?

Masha

My taste is very eclectic. I listen to The Long One by The Beatles. Do you know that one? It's like the, it's also known as the, Abbey Road Medley. and somehow it puts me, in a really nice, calm mood. I'm more of a nervous flyer for sure, even though I travel so much. So I really prefer to listen to things that are, Peaceful, and don't make you go all crazy and anxious.

Andy

I think that's totally normal. When you travel a lot, you realize that the airlines have their own departure music and rival music, don't they? Yeah. Here, there and Everywhere by the Beatles was used by KLM for ages. I just realised, Nick, that we haven't talked about on the playlist your song.

Nick

Dunno what you're talking

Andy

you, you often, take the mickey out of me for my very amateur music ability, and I just wanted to flag that you'd recorded your own version of Everyone's Free to Wear Sunscreen.

Nick

And

Andy

Lounge version, yeah.

Nick

Ladies and gentlemen.

Andy

keep going, please.

Nick

The class of 23. What do you think of my American accent, Marsha?

Masha

Um, it was, was that it right now?

Nick

Oh, um,

Andy

It sounded like somebody treading on a

Nick

hang on, uh, listen to Tales from the Departure Lounge.

Masha

Oh, that was beautiful. I would say like Midwest. yes, yes, yes, very nice.

Nick

it was epic, possibly several minutes too long, but great feedback. I think, are you worried about the threat that I'm encroaching on jingle territory,

Andy

Absolutely, get off my turf, man.

Nick

I, I'm not saying I have been approached about a solo career, but, you know, this

Andy

encourage all of our listeners to seek it out. I think it's, it's on our website, it's on the Spotify thing. You can judge for yourselves.

Wow.

Nick

And in addition to the playlist, we sparked this conversation with Brendan McGurty about celebrities people have met in airports.

Andy

have you met any Marsha? not just in airports, but travels, anywhere.

Masha

I am just not lucky enough, I never actually met like a celebrity in real life,

Andy

I think some people are just better at spotting them.

Nick

I'm quite good at it. I had a great one where we were having dinner in Hoxton in London, and Keira Knightley walked past us on the window. We were in the window seat, and I was like, guys, it's Keira Knightley! Oh my god, it's Keira Knightley! And of course, she'd walked in behind me and was actually trying to make a reservation while I kept, and everyone was just like, no, stop talking! They think that I scared her off,

Andy

That's a good spot though. Knightley. Sarah Sanford from Edified got in touch To say that her best celebrity spot was Duff McHaggan. From Guns N Roses? In her hotel in Columbia. So there you go, that's pretty rock and roll.

Nick

we had Nick Golding's Michael Jackson story,

Andy

he slept with Michael Jackson.

Nick

Marsha, if you could sleep with anyone on a flight, who would that be?

Masha

Oh. Dead or alive? That's an important

Nick

Uh, well! I think, I've got a feeling you're going to name the Beatles one by one.

Masha

I know, right? The four of them.

Andy

I mean, it's easier to, it's easier to talk to them if they're alive,

Masha

if we are being realistic and we are choosing, a living human person, I probably would, honestly, Dame Judi Dench would be cool. To sleep with, on a plane, I feel like just she has so many cool stories, like she, was in so many wonderful movies, right? Like from James Bond to, I don't know, Cats, the musical. And I think she just has lots of wisdom in her that I would like to, learn

Andy

She's just so lovely, isn't she?

Nick

Yeah. In the absence of the Queen she is the next best thing.

Wow.

Andy

Marcia We haven't really talked about what you do at Duolingo, but you're an assessment specialist. What does that mean?

Masha

so if you are familiar with the Company, Duolingo has a few products like the learning app, and then we have our English test. And I work on the English test side where, Duolingo has always been about making education accessible, especially when it comes to English testing. The test that we designed really as a tool for people all around the world to get access to higher education, without having, to travel, like for days to get to a testing center or to sit there for like hours and hours trying to prove their proficiency. So it's really designed to be accessible. And it really harnesses the power of AI and a lot of digital technology, um, my role is to help stakeholders understand, how this test works, what's the research behind it, why do we think it's a good measure, a valid measure of someone's, language proficiency, And that's why I travel so much, right? Because I go to meet with those stakeholders, especially in the UK and Australia and Canada and all around the States, to see the value in the test from the research perspective.

Nick

I'm really pleased that you sponsored the show because digital testing is such a hot topic and it's got people really thinking about how they feel about digital tests and What I have found interesting is particularly with Duolingo is the access it gives students there's some incredible stories of refugees, or people who are in a situation where a decision needs to be made, being able to access higher education around the world. Accept scholarships, because of Duolingo being able to offer them a test online

Masha

Yeah. In fact, we actually have a designated advisor who works with those students, specifically from, refugee populations, because it's such a complex system to navigate, right? And like you said, the stories are amazing, We have students go into Dartmouth, to Harvard, all of those Ivy League schools in the US. We also have scholars in the UK, through the tuning program, we really do feel very strongly about supporting those populations.

Wow.

Nick

It's Christmas everyone, so Masha, what's your plans for Christmas?

Masha

I'm going to Arizona to see my friends and family, and do some skiing, go see the Grand Canyon, and spend some quality time with people I love.

Nick

Sounds lovely,

Andy

you hung your baubles up, Nick?

Nick

Yes, I have. I've got a roaring fire going drinking apple cider feeling very Christmasy

Andy

I'm getting a new bathroom put in downstairs, so my house is just upside down. It's not very relaxing at all,

Nick

Are the in-laws coming to stay? Is this DIY cramming?

Andy

It's just the only time we can get it done.

Nick

what you've always wanted for Christmas. A new system,

Andy

A new toilet! Marsha, thank you so much for coming on the show. It's been great having you.

Masha

Oh, I had a blast. thank you for having me and, super excited to hear your episodes for the next year and where this year is gonna take you

Nick

a massive thank you to everybody who's listened. We've had so much fun this year. We really appreciate everybody's support.

Andy

And Marsha, we'll leave you to go and have an awesome Christmas.

Masha

Thanks, you two both have a great Christmas.

Nick

Happy holidays.

Masha

Happy Holidays!

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