Successful Life Podcast

Building Success and Resilience: Insights from Lance Bachman

• Corey Berrier/ Lance Bachman

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Corey Berrier:

Welcome to the Successful Life Podcast. I'm your host, Corey Berrier, and I'm here with my man, Lance Bachman. What's up buddy? What's up Corey? How you doing, brother? I'm doing great my friend. So we were just chatting. Thanks for

Lance Bachman:

having me. You're absolutely welcome. I love your podcast, man.

Corey Berrier:

I appreciate that. Well, look you're pretty well known in the industry, but for the people that don't know who you are just give a little bit of a background. Then I wanna pick up where we left off a second ago.

Lance Bachman:

Lance Bachman from Philadelphia founded one SEO digital agency, one of the founders of Yellow pages.com. Few other home service companies that I've sold to private equity now own 1, 2, 3, 4 roofing companies painting companies HVAC companies, IT company do a little over a hundred million plus this year in revenue and growing.

Corey Berrier:

But it didn't start there, I'm assuming, but, which we'll get into that in a second. So,

Lance Bachman:

it never starts there.

Corey Berrier:

So you were telling me you're Dr. You're heading up to New York to meet your son that you met 10 years ago, and your wife is, I think you said you've been married to 11 years. Is that right? Yeah. Tell me a. Tell me a little bit about your, you meet your son 10 years ago because I have actually almost, I almost identical years. I met my daughter, she's 14, so yeah, about 10 years ago.

Lance Bachman:

Yeah, I mean, my son, I mean, listen, my son's Andrew, he is 32 years old and as mom told me on Facebook when he was just turning 22 hey, do you have, this is your son. I was getting ready to speak up in Seattle at a conference and my wife was actually nine months pregnant with my son lj. I had to call my wife up and say I'm not gonna be home for a few days. And I'll talk to him when I get back and listen. I called my son up, is it his fault? And I said I wanna come meet you. Met my son. Packed him up. Moved him right.

Corey Berrier:

Is not your current wife's son.

Lance Bachman:

No, he's 20. He's 32 years old. I was 15. His mom was 24. 23. Slept with her one time. She's a good woman, good friends with her. My wife's good friends with her. She travels with us. I have no hard feelings. Listen, she got my son healthy. Timmy is a good kid. In the press. In the press, shit happens. People make mistakes. So

Corey Berrier:

tell me about what you mean. Tell me about that. Whatever you felt after that conversation. That had to be like, that had to be, there had to be a lot of emotions going through your brain at that time. Listen,

Lance Bachman:

I always say this to people, I don't give a fuck how you feel. You gotta do the right thing. So it doesn't matter what my emotions are, I gotta do the right thing. Fighting with his mother about anything only hurts my son. So I'm not doing that. That's off the table. Why doesn't matter because I never asked that. Never will ask that. So that's off the table. And I love my son. I love his mother. I die for his mother's, the mother of my kid. Since it's a wrap, I mean, it's just, I have different, I have a different compass when it comes to my family.

Corey Berrier:

You do have a different compass. You got a lot of kids too, right?

Lance Bachman:

Eight. Yeah. Four son. Four sons. Four sons. Why you

Corey Berrier:

had eight

Lance Bachman:

kids? I four.

Corey Berrier:

Well, the reason I think that's really interesting, Lance, is, you know, like I said before my I met my daughter when, obviously after I met my wife. She's not biologically my daughter, but I kinda had to step into play. I had to step in as dad, like the other, you know, her biological father just wasn't really around. He was around, but he was just, you know, he was a little, he just wasn't present. He wasn't really a dad. And so I, I just didn't, I'll be honest, I didn't really expect to step into that role. And so it was really different for me to have to take on that responsibility. So you had some practice before that? It's a lot. It is

Lance Bachman:

a lot. 21 years later, she hit me up on Facebook. That's why, and I mean, my wife was pregnant with our first son, lj. She was nine months pregnant. And I'd opened the door down my shore house and introduced to Andrew and said, this is my son. Alright. Right. My wife gave me a hug, a kiss, and she said, Andrew, come move in with us. I know your father. She never looks back, accepted him. Right. From the And how's,

Corey Berrier:

how, so how is your relationship with him now?

Lance Bachman:

You wanna meet him in New York? Have a great one. Listen it's, he's a great kid. I mean, he's a great man. He's not even a kid, you know, it's a, it's like every other father and son. There's ups and downs. There's good and bad and all any father wants is for their son to be truly happy.

Corey Berrier:

That's pretty incredible. Dude. That's pretty wild. I mean, I'm, you know, kudos for her for, to reaching out, but were you still, like, obviously you weren't still friends with her at the time, right?

Lance Bachman:

I didn't know who she was.

Corey Berrier:

Right, right, right.

Lance Bachman:

Wasn't the lifeguard at the pool? I'd never remembered her, but any 50 year old kids gonna remember sleeping with a lifeguard at like, it's really not like, like she wasn't a lifeguard at the pool. I would've never

Corey Berrier:

remember her. Wow. Yeah. That's pretty incredible. Good for you. Dude, that's I don't even know what to say. I just didn't know that. I didn't know that at all. So, I mean, I

Lance Bachman:

don't think it's a big deal. I mean, I think, you know, that's a, I think his mother's a great woman. I think she's a nurse. I think she's a good pillar of the community. She has other kids. They're great kids. She was a good right wife to her husband. I mean, you know, just. A good friend of my wife mean shit happens in life. People, you gotta look at the body of work and not a mistakes someone made.

Corey Berrier:

Oh dude, thank. Yeah, that's for damn sure. I'm glad people don't judge me on the mistakes I've made. I can tell you that. Dito. Ditto. Ditto. Well, so I, is it safe to assume you're probably pretty strong in your faith, whatever that is?

Lance Bachman:

I'm very strong in my faith. You know, I don't talk about religion, but I tell people, you know, there's certain things I believe in. I believe in second chances. I believe in. I love people that are in recovery'cause they have strong faith. I'm not in recovery, but I wish more people were truthfully. But yeah, I have a very strong guiding light. And listen, I make mistakes. They tell everybody I'm a human being. Everyone makes mistakes. It's how you handle those mistakes. That's

Corey Berrier:

right. Yeah. So, I, yeah, I'm I actually am in recovery. I haven't drank in talking about mistakes I haven't drank in almost 14 years, but it's not quite like, it sounds like I did, you know, I smoked weeded for a while, which you can't be in recovery. You can't be sober living a sober life if you're smoking weeded. I mean, that, and again, that's just for me, that doesn't mean for anybody else. But for me personally, it. It blocked my spiritual connection. And the reason it blocked my spiritual connection is'cause I allowed it to, I allowed, you know, I would turn to that instead of turning to God. And I didn't realize it at the time until, you know, earlier this year, I realized things just weren't working out like I needed them to, or like I planned on them working out. And the truth of the matter is I just had to change some

Lance Bachman:

things. Yeah, I mean it, self-reflection. I mean, one of my partners, Matt, he has 18 years sober and he says all the time to everyone, man, you've gotta work on yourself. You know, your self-improvement is your biggest thing. And I mean, I hate to say this, if you're in recovery, I don't think you can smoke weeded. I don't think you can drink. I don't think all that shit. I think it's all off the table. I mean, you know, I've lost brothers to heroin when that died. You know, I've seen the drug addiction. I never did a. So I'm very fortunate. This was never my thing. I knew if I ever tried drugs, I'd be the best fucking drug addict you've ever seen. Because I am intense and competitive at everything, and I go 150 miles per hour and I knew if I ever touched cocaine, heroin, whatever it may be, I would be off to the races and wasn't anybody gonna catch me.

Corey Berrier:

So I just never did it. Ah, thank God. Thank God.

Lance Bachman:

Yeah. I never did it. And I've been around, I owned bars, night clubs when I was younger. It'd always be around me and people were like, why won't you? I'm like, because I know. I seen what it did to my brothers. I seen what it did to other people. I'm like, and I'm more addicted than they are.

Corey Berrier:

How old was your brother when he passed?

Lance Bachman:

He was 42 years old, I think. Died of heroin overdose, man. Yep, and it destroyed my family.

Corey Berrier:

In what way? I mean, I, it makes sense that

Lance Bachman:

it did. You know, we grew up very abused mentally, socially. Physically every Bachman boy's been in a prison cell for quite some time. I'm not talking about a night or talking about years at a time. You know, including myself. So, you know, when you grow up like that and then when these things keep happening, there's no leadership. And listen, we're one of 14, nine boys, five girls. My brother Joe died. Like it really was just like the end of what once was probably the best Bachman family you ever could have had. That was the nail in the coffin, man.

Corey Berrier:

So you said every Bachman has spit time behind the bars? Every Bachman

Lance Bachman:

boy, every male bachman, and that's why change. I always say to people, you gotta change the stars of your children. That is your job. And in one lifetime I changed the history of my family one lifetime I was that guy.

Corey Berrier:

How about that? So can you dive into a little bit of the reason why, you know, whatever your troubles were or whatever you got in trouble for?

Lance Bachman:

Fist fights, the only ever was trouble for fist fights, any podcasts, everyone knows, but I never it like, like I was the vice president of at t for the whole country and they knew I was a convicted felon from 1992 for a fist fight. I never hid it. You know, I walked in, this is who I am. Am I proud of it? No, you know, but I made a mistake. I'm not gonna beat myself up every day. I beat myself. You can't say nothing to me that I haven't said about myself to myself. So, like you can't physically hurt me more than I've already been physically hurt. So when you understand that and you understand this in recovery, said, When you find that path to whatever it is you want to call it, to your self worth, you're just like, Hey, this is who I am and if you wanna roll with me, I'm down and I'm gonna do something great. If you don't wanna roll with me, I get it. Like,

Corey Berrier:

it's cool man. Yeah, you're right.'cause there's nobody on this planet could talk more shit to me than me. The

Lance Bachman:

truth. I was working out this morning. My wife walked in, I started talking to her just about winning and this and that and you know, she could tell I was talking to myself and she's like, Lance, like, relax, like you won, man. You've done more than most people ever could achieved in a lifetime. Like you won. It's very hard for me to disconnect from wanting to win. Yeah, it's very hard.

Corey Berrier:

How has that caused, how has that caused issues in your life?

Lance Bachman:

It's caused a lot. I mean, listen, I mean, I'm a self-aware man. I mean, listen, you know, when you're sitting in a room, you wanna win so bad and. You wanna keep growing companies and build and change people's lives, and you feel like you're truly on the mission that I'm on and I'm blessed and I'm blessed with abundance and I wanna give it back. And you know, not everybody's on board for that. And I'm okay with that. And, you know, I, you know, sometimes, you know, when I was younger I talked to people the wrong way because I wanted to win some, you know, it just because I made a lot of mistakes, you know, but now I'm be 50. This year I'm a father. I sold multiple companies to private equity. As you know, I own multiple companies. I try and do the best I can to control the winning and make sure that one's set up for success. It could just keep pushing and pushing,

Corey Berrier:

and it's not about the money, like the money's already there, right? So it's more about, it's more about that. It's more about the feeling you get. From, is it the buying, the selling? Is it the impact? I would assume it's impact.

Lance Bachman:

For me, it's about changing lives. I wanna make as many people in the home service, roofing, painting, power washing, HVAC industry, not so much HVAC as much as roofing power, washing, siding. I wanna make as many people multimillionaires as possible, meaning I partner with you, you're an operator, and I, we scale, we get all the checks in place. Then we sell our private equity, and when you hit that big fucking check, I see you smile. I see you crying, holding your kids, knowing when you took those chips off the table and it changed the course of your family's life. I mean, I've done it now multiple times and I've seen grown men cry as I hold them. The thanking like it's just the best feeling. It is no better feeling. Knowing the impact of that, what do you look

Corey Berrier:

for in a guy that you want to help change their life like that? Is there certain characteristics that you look for? I.

Lance Bachman:

I don't need the Polish, the Ivy League asshole born on third base. He's not my type of guy, actually. I don't even wanna deal with them people, to be honest with you. It's just I have no problem saying that. Winners, I want winners, people how to compete. You know, you could be a w a winner and still lay lost and failed a lot, but you, the winner truly gets help me, keeps going. I, I try explaining that to people. Like, what do you mean? I'm like, just, can you have success now? And you failed 30 times on the 31st one.'cause you kept going, you're gonna win. Like, that's how it works. Like, you know, just go out there and get a take done. I tell my sons, I get taken down 10 times. Just go get, just go and get one. It all starts with one, right? I look for people in recovery. I'm big into recovery, military. People that have been locked up need second chances. People with families, like I tell people this all the time, I say, what do you mean with families? I said, I don't care if you're married or not married but you better take care of your fucking kids. Like, I don't care that you don't like your wife or your husband, and I don't understand how you could not like your wife or your husband after you get done sleeping with them for two years, five years, 10 years, or whatever the divorce reason is. I mean, I don't care if someone cheated or you just didn't like each other. Whatever reason is, it's like, who cares? It's over. Get, it's over. I never understood that. Like, I hate that person. Why? It's over. Yeah, it's over.

Corey Berrier:

So you think it's better for a couple that maybe they've fallen outta love and maybe they're, you know, I various reasons people that happens, but would you say that it is better for them to stay in it for the kid or, you know, I suppose it's case by case basis, but or would you

Lance Bachman:

say that? No I don't think you fall outta love. I think he stopped talking. Listen, me and my wife been together for years. We've had ups and downs. I have no problem saying to anyone, like, we've had ups and downs. Shit's not always great. But I can tell you this, I love my wife more today than I've ever loved her in my life. And we've had ups and downs and problems, and you gotta work on it, man. Like fuck it ain't, dude. When you're doing things, it's stressful. Kids are stressful. I think kids are the most stressful thing of anything, right? Like, so I think that's high impact stress. Money's high impact stress. I think, you know, people take the easy way out. And I'm not, listen, I'm not saying if you get divorced, it's the easy way out. Some people should be divorced, some people just should not be together. But I, for me, I don't I don't stay for my kids. Probably in the beginning I did, but now I wouldn't wanna leave. My kids can be 60 years old. I'm staying with my wife. She's my best friend. I get to hang out with her. I get to laugh with her. I get to joke with her. Not all the time, but when we do. And so for me it's a little different. So I really can't give your advice on that, like I think Gotta follow your heart, man.

Corey Berrier:

Yeah, I agree. But you said something really important there, and that's the communication portion. If you don't communicate, it's really hard to have a good relationship with anybody for that matter.

Lance Bachman:

I would say this, every deal never closes. Once the communication stops, every problem will never be solved. Once the communication stops. It's real simple. If you don't communicate, it's over communicate. I'd rather have a kid that can be a great communicator and be the dumbest kid in the classroom than the smartest kid in the classroom and can't communicate.

Corey Berrier:

That makes sense? That makes total sense.

Lance Bachman:

All the guys that are multimillionaires and self-made, they have great communication

Corey Berrier:

skills. Yeah, without a doubt. Without a doubt. Interesting. And it's really fascinating that, I mean, it really, I guess it's not fascinating because of the story about your brother and what you went through with that, that you look for people in recovery. Do you find that people in recovery, Work. It seems like pe like, and I'm not saying this'cause I'm in recovery, but like I, I have an innate desire and I think maybe it's'cause of the garbage that I've gone to, like I just, I might get knocked down 30 times. You're right. But there's zero chance I'm not getting listen.

Lance Bachman:

Taste it. The canvas, when pee taste can, they get a little bit of taste of success. They get addicted to it. They run to it. And gotta remember people in recovery. A lot of people have addictive personality, don't understand right. When you give them the ultimate high, the dopamine high, making money, feeling good about themselves, you know, being the man in a different way. They're like, dude, this is awesome. I'm having fun, I'm competing. And then once you sell one or two companies and you're a millionaire, you're like, I'm not never gonna stop doing this. So, I mean, And I look for people that have been in trouble because I believe is America. You deserve second chance. This is the greatest country in the world. This is the greatest country in the world. You deserve second chances. Yeah,

Corey Berrier:

I've had several and you know, if I No I totally agree with you. I totally agree. If I hadn't had second chance, there's zero chance I'd be sitting here right now. Of course, zero

Lance Bachman:

chance I'm sitting here. Zero. Yeah.

Corey Berrier:

Yeah. You can't shoot, you know, you can't shoot the wounded. You gotta, you know, it is funny'cause you see people come back and really the guy that picks up a white chip, so to speak, after, you know, coming back 15 times, there's something about that dude that, you know, he's gonna get it. But that's not always the case with somebody that just comes in for the first time. In fact, you can almost guarantee that's not gonna be the first time they pick up a white chip.

Lance Bachman:

I say this all the time, I've been doing this for 30 years now. People don't realize, like, you know, Bradley said to me, he said, you're the most undercover guy probably in America like you really? Because I used to always start doing social media way about a year or two ago, really getting into it, you know? And I didn't do a lot of speaking because I was busy building companies, right? So, I kind was like, you know what people were saying, you gotta do this, you gotta do, it was like, I, whatever I'm in let's let it rip. Let's see what happens. It's been great, right? But I probably made$20 million in mistakes. So when people say, why do I part, why? Why should I partner with you and you know, you're not really giving much money for my company. I'm like, well, I really am. Because you don't understand how much money I'm gonna save you in mistakes and get you to the promised land. Well, I could probably do it on my own. Well, I don't Why'd you knock on my door? Go get him, guy. Yeah.

Corey Berrier:

You say Brad Lea. He's a buddy of mine. I love, I think Bradley's a trip. He is something else. Were you on his show?

Lance Bachman:

Yeah, I.

Corey Berrier:

He is a funny dude. He is something else. God knows he's something else. But yeah, dude, the mistakes that you know, the mistakes that we make, you're right. That's where the value comes in a hundred percent. Because if I can prevent you from making X, Y, Z mistake, you know, sometimes you can't even put a dollar amount on that.

Lance Bachman:

Those mistakes would put most people out of business. They would break their spirit, you know? People's egos is why they're not successful. You know, I said to the guy today, I was talking to him, right? I'm very direct with people when they call me. I probably get anywhere between five and 10 people a day reaching out to me to be their partner, right? Through social media, text messages. I mean, Peter was just cold calling my phone now because I give my cell phone and everyone, because I just, that's who I am, right? So, oh, my, my voice box is filled every day if I don't delete it almost every two hours, right? People are just calling. And you know, it's special to feel I have, that's a special feeling that so many people wanna partner. But I'm very direct. Listen, I'm a 50 from the rip and like that. And the guy's running goes, listen, I'm okay with that because I see what you're building and what you've done. And 50% of 50 million's a lot better than a hundred percent of the 4 million I'm doing now. I got no problem. And you know, I started laughing'cause he got it right and then, You know, probably four outta 10 people say, well, I don't want a partner that's 50% and immediately say, Hey, listen, I wish you the best. I hang up because I don't waste time. I don't believe in that. I'm a very direct man, so I don't believe in wasting time. I think that's the worst thing human beings could do. So then I'd say three outta 10, or like, well, you know, I could probably do this on my own. Go to a coaching group yada. And I give'em the old, do you watch porn? And they're like, yeah. I'm like, well, Do you think your wife thinks you're a porn star? And they're like, huh? I'm like, probably not. And you know, reality check, just'cause you watch something doesn't mean you can do it. So that's three. And then you get the other three people that are in, and then I. Them character. Can I match with film? Do we have the chemistry I give? There's one chief in every village speech. And you know, just, you know, just make sure it's set up for a success. Never had an issue with partner, so I just wanna keep it that way. Dang, that's

Corey Berrier:

pretty impressive. And how many partners have you had? Just outta curiosity? Over 10.

Lance Bachman:

Yeah, I bet. Maybe 1215 never had an issue. But

Corey Berrier:

you set the expectation. You set the dynamic up in a way that you know that works for you. And did you really ultimately know that's gonna work for them, or it should work with them?

Lance Bachman:

It would work for them. I mean, we've never had a company fail. So it's just, it's not, it's just that's why I don't run in everything. I look at everything and I pick the right things. I pick the right person. I'm betting on the person that I'm going. I'm a man of my work. If you're a man of your work, we're gonna get along real good. We're gonna get along great when we're gonna do great things together. And if it doesn't work out, I'm gonna break it up in a amicable way where it's fair. It's actually more fair to you than me.'cause I just went out at that point. Yeah. Yeah, not everything works. You're right.

Corey Berrier:

I think a lot of people hang on though.

Lance Bachman:

Right. I'm not hanging on anything. The only thing I'm hanging on is my wife and kids. Everything else is business. Yeah. It's business doesn't, it doesn't make money. It doesn't make sense. Yeah,

Corey Berrier:

that makes sense. So what are you seeing to shift it towards business just a little bit here. What are you seeing coming? Yeah, look, there's, I'm hearing a lot of stuff. I'm hearing a lot about, there's a lot of banks that are closing, all right? And I don't know how many people know that but is a pretty, it's a lot more than what people would like. It's far greater than what people think. Where do you think we're headed? Absolutely.

Lance Bachman:

I gonna tell you something, I don't watch the news. I don't give a fuck. I build my companies, I sell'em. I put my money in money markets and real estate, my own companies. And I don't even comment on that stuff. And I'm just being honest with you. I think, you know, I can control what I can control. So whatever rules you put in front of me, them rules. Scrap money and build businesses. So I don't care. I tell people I don't care if fucking p c bankers outta that business know if I got half million dollars in, I lose it. Fuck it, I'm moving on. I can't worry about all the what ifs in life. So I don't even watch the news. I don't pay attention. I just found out an independent guy is running for president and they tried talking to me. I said, I don't give a shit. Like what? Why I don't, what's Scooby doing as our president? I'm building businesses. I don't give a shit. Makes sense. There's no other conversations for me. If it doesn't make money in my businesses, I don't wanna discuss it unless it's about my children. My family sports, my kids' sports. I just don't care. Like nothing interests me. You couldn't get, like, people were like, you don't wanna talk about what's going on in the world. I didn't know Ukraine was in a fight with Russia till like five months ago. Girl in my office told me her mom was going to Ukraine'cause her brother's fighting the war there. I'm like, what? The war.

Corey Berrier:

Yeah. The news is,

Lance Bachman:

I legit don't watch the news.

Corey Berrier:

Yeah, me either.

Lance Bachman:

Me either. It's a prop. It's a propaganda site. That's right. It's a propag, it's a propaganda site. It's pretty

Corey Berrier:

bizarre how true that statement is. It's pretty bizarre. How many people don't know how true that

Lance Bachman:

statement is. Listen I was at the dinner table, right? I'm just gonna show you how uneducated people are. I was at the dinner table. I'm not gonna say where,'cause it will, these people know who I'm talking about, right? And we're all Republicans. I don't give a shit if you're Republican or Democrat. I think you're about scumbags. So that ends up for me, right? That's so they're talking about how Fox News is the only true, real Republican and Newsmax, and I just started laughing. I said, why is everyone laughing? I said, you know, Fox News is owned by Disney, which is one of the biggest liberal things out there. They said, no, it's not. No, it's not. I said, no, Fox News is owned by Disney. They bought it three years ago. See, I'm a fact guy. I'm not a headline fucking guy. Right? And they were like, that's not true. Right at the table. I Googled it, proved it, showed it, and they're like, whoa. I said, they're controlling that narrative also. That's right. I said, guys, it's all bullshit. It's all bullshit. They couldn't believe it. Most people. They're literally marketing agencies. They get you to believe whatever they're selling. That's right. A hundred percent. Yeah. I used the perfect example of how good these people are. Right. During Covid, and I'm not saying Covid wasn't real. Not real. You know what I'm saying Is this, there was a drug, I forget the name of the drug. I used it as an example, right? And everyone was saying, don't take this drug. And Trump was saying, take the drug and a few other, and they started just abandon people off of social media. And I said to the guy at the table that was talking, I said, If I told you eating that napkin would save your life and you had a good chance of dying, but it might save your life, it saved people's lives from brain tumors. It saved people's lives from other things. Did you eat the fucking napkin? He goes, yeah. I go, so what was the, why not just eat the fucking bill? Yeah, I mean, so much money, so much propaganda. So you know, People that buy into the fear mon of all the what ifs and what's that? You can't control it. Roll up your sleeves, go have fun, jump on board, grab your shield, grab your sword, and go build businesses and have some fun. Get your warriors together. Don't worry about the what ifs. The what ifs will give you anxiety. You don't want anxiety. Yeah,

Corey Berrier:

but you said something really important that I've had to actually come to the realization is if I can't. If it's outside of my reach I can't do anything about it. I don't care if it's my kid, my wife, it doesn't matter. If I can't touch it, it don't matter. I have no control over it.

Lance Bachman:

None. That's why people hate flying so much because you can't control it. Driving a car, I'm on a zoom with you. A lot more dangerous than being 30,000 miles in the. Sitting, I'm sitting here, I'm sitting here smiling on my face with you.

Corey Berrier:

No, that's, yeah, you're a hundred percent right. You're a hundred percent right, but I think it's a hard thing for people to, to grasp. And I don't know that most people grasp it, to be honest with you.

Lance Bachman:

I mean, I'm not worried about most people. I'm worried about the people that's helping me build businesses, people that wanna win, and people that my wife, I don't. I don't care. Like people will be like, Hey, can you donate to this? I'm like, no. The only thing I donate is to, for children that are abused and people and juvenile delinquents. That's it. I wanna help kids. Kids that have a tough, no, I don't donate to anything else. I'm sorry. A few of my friends have cancer. Things I'll help out because I've done it since because they're my friends. But outside of that, no. Not doing it. Yeah. Well, we

Corey Berrier:

could go down the rabbit hole of the donation places all day long and how scammy they are, but we'll save people for that. Yeah,

Lance Bachman:

but what you can do though you could say to the donation place, I wanna see where my money goes and I'm not giving you money. And almost everyone doesn't. Now there's people don't, there's some great ones out there. There is Beat the Streets, James Mangan. I mean, come on. He's one of the best ones out there. That money's going to them kids. This girl has a. Fundraiser herself, and she shows you where the money goes like. You know, there, there's some good people out there, but you are right. There's some very shitty ones out there. And the ones that don't wanna show where the money goes, I wouldn't donate to'em. Right.

Corey Berrier:

It's funny, dude, like I was thinking of, I was listening to something, I don't remember what it was, and I don't even remember how long ago it was, but somebody, they were talking about how much money and it was astronomical amount and that, that gets pumped into the homeless population or whatever in California. Dude, there's the worst homeless problem out there I've ever seen in my life. And it's staggering the amount of money that actually goes to that. But anyway, that's not really any of my business. Nor do I care because I'm not Well,

Lance Bachman:

the money's not going to the homeless people. It's going to the politicians. That's right. It's going to the employee, their friends that do nothing. I mean, it's, come on, man. The system's rigged. Why do people even watch? You can't control it. Fuck'em all. That's

Corey Berrier:

right. I agree with you. Well, listen, Lance, I really enjoyed this conversation, kind of went all over the place, which I really like. We touched on a lot of different things and I really appreciate you just coming on and just kind of shooting the shit with me today and us talking about, you know, just, you know, a little bit different conversation maybe than I usually have or maybe usually have on here. I don't know. You know where if somebody wants to get ahold of you, how would they do that?

Lance Bachman:

My cell phone(215) 796-4393. Google me and you'll go write the LB caps website. Contact me. I'm the this guy to get ahold of, text me, call me. I get everybody my real cell phone number.

Corey Berrier:

Yep. And you respond. So I appreciate that. Yeah.

Lance Bachman:

Yeah. Alright. Have you I know, yeah. Yes. So yeah, you see I respond. No doubt. That's

Corey Berrier:

right. So appreciate

Lance Bachman:

you Lance. Alright brother. Appreciate you. Thank you for everything. You got it brother. Keep the great

Corey Berrier:

work. Thank you brother.

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