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Social platforms are manipulating how we date, perceive ourselves, and value athletes.
Social media has transformed how we date, perceive ourselves, and value female athletes, creating unrealistic expectations and dangerous psychological impacts while simultaneously helping raise the profile of women's sports.
• Social media creates unrealistic relationship expectations by showing only highlight reels without the struggles
• Dating apps are deliberately designed with the same addictive swiping mechanisms as mobile games
• Teen suicide rates increased 65% between 2010-2015, coinciding with social media's rise
• Women in the top 100 NIL athletes increased from 32% in 2022 to 52% in 2023
• Women's sports are gaining recognition as engagement increases and arenas sell out
• Female athletes often struggle with jealousy from other women rather than receiving support
• Men tend to evaluate female athletes more objectively, focusing on skill rather than personal feelings
• Finding identity in Christ rather than social media validation creates healthier self-image
Find your identity in something deeper than likes or followers because social media presents a façade designed to provoke comparison and insecurity.
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Speaker 3:Welcome back to the no Shot Podcast. I'm your host, santa, here with my co-hosts T-Mike and Chopsticks.
Speaker 4:What's going?
Speaker 2:down y'all. I know what's going up A brand new episode of the no Shot Podcast brought to you by Radio Influence in beautiful Tampa Bay, Florida. All right, Y'all ready to get after it?
Speaker 4:Let's get after it.
Speaker 2:Let's go, and today we have some amazing special guests on deck, because we got a little bit of a controversial topic. I want to introduce to the world two amazing collegiate athletes, female athletes at that, and we're going to talk about a subject that matters to college athletes Introducing to the world. But we already know them. This is Lainey and Des. Clap it up for them.
Speaker 5:Ladies say what's up to the world. Hello, hello, what's up world?
Speaker 2:Which one was talking just then. That was Des. First one was Des. We took turns.
Speaker 3:We took turns. Yeah, first one was talking. Just then I was dead. First one was this we took turns.
Speaker 5:We took turns. Yeah, first one was me, second Lainey. Now you guys know which one is which.
Speaker 2:So, topic-wise, today we are going to get into something, like I said, that's a little controversial. You know, social media tries to control everything we do. Right, indeed, indeed 100%. Absolutely. It even controls dating.
Speaker 4:Ooh, it's funny because Facebook, one of the biggest social media platforms, has a tab specifically for dating.
Speaker 5:Why.
Speaker 4:Because it's Facebook and they can.
Speaker 5:You have to know who's in a current relationship with who.
Speaker 2:And social media has to tell us yeah.
Speaker 3:You know, the first social media or the first dating app was Matchcom and I was like, oh man, I remember when that came out.
Speaker 2:We're all like no one cares.
Speaker 4:Remember Farmers Only, yeah, everyone that was born in the 30s, all right.
Speaker 2:So, with that in mind, we want to know and I think America wants to know, what are the big issues when it comes to social media, dictating who dates who. So, coming from a female perspective and either one of you can fire your first one on this one, it does not matter who chooses how does social media affect you guys in regards to what you think about guys?
Speaker 5:so basically, the way social media shapes our opinion about the male species in general the male species. Okay, okay.
Speaker 4:That's a crazy way to say that it's true.
Speaker 5:I mean I think I can speak for most young women is that the painted picture is we have to appeal more to men. So kind of the way social media presents itself is you post what you want people to think about you, you post what's catching to the eye and nowadays you post for more of a male gaze. I guess that's kind of the more stereotype, just to kind of grasp things, create more of an audience.
Speaker 2:So what you're saying, des, is that social media provokes you to be superficial, to draw the attention of guys, so you can make a selection based upon the species.
Speaker 5:Not me specifically, but I'm saying the um, the way it's kind of painted almost is that they would want women to make that appeal. I'm not one of those statistical women who would do that, but but you would say that's what media is trying to yeah yeah, I definitely say you. You see, women, um, I guess instagram is more of the platform I'd use, but posting more of an unmodest way to kind of engage with followers and get likes and opinions on things.
Speaker 2:Word what you think, Lainey.
Speaker 1:For me, kind of picking back off what des said um, a lot of uh. It puts unrealistic expectations on dating and everything. Because you see these these quote-unquote perfect couples on um, tiktok and instagram and all this and you think, oh, my relationship's not like that, so you don't see their problems. It's a highlight reel of their life and I think that's what a lot of people struggle with, and girls in general too. Because you see these unrealistic expectations, because people edit pictures and stuff like that and then guys are all drawn to that and they're like oh, why aren't they commenting on this or liking this or just different instances like that? Because I have a lot of friends, like I don't post that much, but I do know that, like a lot of my friends, they'll look at it that way. They don't want to admit it, but it's what it is.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think unfortunately a lot of guys are very shallow and so they do judge women just based off of their first immediate like what they see, and it's just natural and a lot of guys mature out of that and actually look for who that person is. And I think the consensus in my—I don't even know. I just lost my words, so use even know.
Speaker 2:I just lost my words, so use your words. I'm trying. Okay In my experience thank you.
Speaker 4:In my experience with guys that I know, it seems that a lot of guys are moving away from the whole showing off your body and stuff and that sort of appeal. But I do agree that it's definitely pushed. You need to post this certain way if you want this sort of appeal. But I do agree that it's definitely pushed like you need to post this certain way if you want this amount of attention.
Speaker 3:So what was really interesting to me when I was studying up for this episode? That the same company that owns Tinder and a lot of those dating apps is also owned by the company that creates a lot of the mobile games. So it's like they're organized. Oh wow, the dating apps are organized to be addictive, to keep you engaged in the app. Like you know, hinge advertises itself to be the app that is meant to be deleted, but how many people are actually deleting that app?
Speaker 4:Yeah, but let's just look at you have TikTok and Tinder. Okay, what are the two main things you do on both? You swipe, You're swiping, that's all you're doing, just nonstop Swipe.
Speaker 5:Swipe, swipe. Of course you had to bring a song into it.
Speaker 4:But it's just very interesting that, based off what you just said, they're doing the same thing and, based off what you just said, they're doing the same thing you get something visually stimulating and you're doing something. Over and over and over again it becomes addictive.
Speaker 5:That's a great point. I've never realized that. Pointing that out is kind of mind-blowing, almost Chalking.
Speaker 2:Exactly so understanding that now we're going back to the lady side. Why is social media telling you to do it? You just pointed out that you guys think more modestly, love it, respect it, so why do so?
Speaker 5:many other girls not follow your route. Well, I guess our generation, generation Z. Everyone points out that we're the first generation to kind of grow up with a phone in our hand and social media was practically just handed to us before we knew how to properly use our fingers and eat correctly.
Speaker 5:I'm just saying. We grew up with social media being built, so it's been pretty normalized. You find more often than not, that people have all social media accounts. So finding someone who doesn't have Snapchat, instagram, tiktok is like a rare diamond, like, oh, why don't you have it? So, because this is a normal thing for us, people are constantly just putting posts out and engaging in different things and just posting random things and random stuff to get engagement, and more often than not, that engagement usually includes a girl showing something off or moving, dancing in a certain way. That's pretty suggestive, and I was talking to a friend recently um brie, actually that shout out to ortega.
Speaker 5:Shout out, ortega be better ortega but, um, our world has over sexualized really anything. So having that kind of also be normalized is sad, um, and I think for us from a more biblical standpoint, that's why we're different is because we take things back to the Bible. We want to be modest, we want to be in the correct role, to be properly in a relationship, just as Jesus loved the church, and to be respectable and to build that respect.
Speaker 4:That's facts, right there.
Speaker 1:And I think for me it's's how I grew up. I grew up in a very Christian home, very biblical home, and I think, shout out, mom and dad, because they they keep teaching them about the Lord. I think it just really helps me be strong in what I believe and what I believe is right. I'm very stubborn. It can be a blessing and a curse.
Speaker 5:Oh, I believe you I believe you and I believe is right. I'm very stubborn. It can be a blessing and a curse.
Speaker 3:Oh, I believe you, I believe you.
Speaker 1:And I think it's just like she said. It's finding somebody who respects you how the Lord would respect you. It's putting stuff out there that you wouldn't want your grandma to see or your grandpa to see. You say, oh, they don't care, but you attract what you are. That's what I see it as.
Speaker 2:Oh, run it back. Say that one more time.
Speaker 1:You attract what you are.
Speaker 2:Say it one more time so all the girls in the back can hear what you just said. You attract what you are, so you made a huge point right there. Lainey, shout out to mama and daddy for training.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:So, with that in mind, you don't want to reflect something that you're not. But social media provokes you to reflect something that you claim you're not. But all the guys see what you reflect, so they assume that's what you are. So why do you claim you want respect when all you're doing is reflecting what you claim you're not, but to draw them in? You think that's all you need to do, but I would say that's not true, because Chop made a point earlier that guys actually are more drawn to the conservative girl that shows high-level respect with beauty, but for some reason social media says no bueno, that's a lie.
Speaker 3:So something else I was looking up.
Speaker 2:according to polls, you sound so boring right now. All right, you're talking like a robot, sorry.
Speaker 3:So, according to some studies that I was looking, up.
Speaker 2:Oh, there's Santa. Now he's alive. Thank you.
Speaker 3:According to some studies I was looking up, more than 50% of women said that a guy not having social media was a red flag.
Speaker 2:Hold on, was that a?
Speaker 3:stat.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and was that not having social media was?
Speaker 3:a red flag. So yeah, Not having social media was a red flag.
Speaker 4:Okay, that's very interesting. Very interesting, because where did this poll come from? Where did this stat come from? Where did this stat come?
Speaker 3:from I don't remember the uh, the site I was looking up like several different podcasts and, uh, the I don't so, ladies, what say you to that?
Speaker 2:what say you?
Speaker 1:I would say it's a green flag, um, to not have social media. I mean, mean, I don't know, because you don't have the. I mean, yeah, you have Google and stuff to look stuff up, but you don't have this constant feed of oh, you can look at another girl, you can see this, you can see that you might not like it, but you're looking at it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Wow yeah.
Speaker 5:I just, I don't know, know, I'm kind of mind blown at that statistic because, agreeing with laney, I'd say it's a green flag. Um, as she said, the constant feed of these pictures, these videos, these different opinions on things people often bandwagon on, you know trends and things that are popping, and so not having that and not having that constant change of mind or that influence, I'd say, is a good thing. I recently just deleted like Snapchat and was going to take a social media fast because I think not having that constant bug in your ear really about this is what's current trend, this is what you need to wear, this is what you need to show off. I'd say it's more of a green flag not having social media. You can stay true to who you are and your convictions without having that constant push of no, do this, no, change your opinion on this. You know what Skrrt?
Speaker 2:I agree with you, but I disagree with what's happening. So you might be right, but how many girls take the wrong route on purpose?
Speaker 5:A lot Often. How about?
Speaker 2:98.8888888%. So with that in mind, now we look at the broader parameter. Do you think that there's an agenda behind the way social media portrays?
Speaker 1:women 100, absolutely. What do you believe that agenda is? Don't, don't, don't, um, um. Just appeal to people like you want. So a lot of times when you post, you're like, oh, I want to get this amount of likes and so say you got 10 likes and people are like, oh, I'm taking that down, like that's embarrassing. I only got 10 likes and I got this many views, or whatever. So they take it down. But in our reality, if 10 people come up to you and compliment you throughout the day, you're going to remember that.
Speaker 1:If 10 people come up to you and say they like your outfit or they think you're funny or anything like that. You're going to remember that throughout the day.
Speaker 2:Okay, so skirt what's more valuable the personal interaction or the social interaction.
Speaker 5:I think, going back to us being the generation with phones in our hand, people value that social media fake shout out more than they do the genuine in-person conversation Spurt again.
Speaker 2:So you're telling me now this is a guy talking to a girl, live on a no shot. You're telling me that you would prefer the compliment of a stranger, someone you'll probably never meet in your life, over individuals that are in your everyday giving you a compliment. That's more valuable.
Speaker 5:Personally I would say no. But if we're talking the overall picture, people often like that a random stranger across the world, probably, who doesn't know you. They have no reason to lie to you, they have no reason to create this random appeal or be on your good side, so it I guess it can come off as more genuine almost because they they don't really know you, so they don't have to sit here and lie the oh, your new haircut looks good. They're just gonna be like oh, your new haircut looks good because it looks good most dudes tell you to know that's good times there will be hate comments to be like your haircuts actually trash.
Speaker 1:Why did you cut your hair?
Speaker 2:I've heard of trolls online and they will attack and destroy you like rip you apart.
Speaker 3:So here's an interesting statistic, boring again.
Speaker 2:Here's an interesting statistic.
Speaker 3:All right, so this is off of Child Mind Institute. So users that spend and this is teenagers and young adults that spend more time on Instagram, facebook and other platforms show to have substantially more depression about 13 to 66% higher rate of depression.
Speaker 2:And that was stats. Yes, stats, stats.
Speaker 4:There we go. That's very interesting. But I'm not surprised in the slightest because we've already talked about this before. With the whole like micro programming of our brains and stuff, and I think with social media you're always striving to get. You know, you start off with 10 likes and then you get 15 and just keep going and like you just want more and more and more and more, so like, if you're not getting these things, it's, it's really. It's really making you feel empty and like not fulfilled at all, because then you realize like, oh, this little quick dopamine rush that I get from getting this certain amount of likes is gone because it's not real, it's not actual joy, and it's just it's very interesting. 16%, you said.
Speaker 3:Yeah, 13 to 66%. 13 to 66% more likely. Yeah. And here's another stat Over half a million wait, half a million. 8th grade through 12th grade found that a number of people exhibit higher levels of symptoms of depression, increased by 33% between 2010 and 2015. And the same period, the suicide for girls at that age group increased by 65%.
Speaker 2:Now. We struggled through that just now, but yeah, we got the point.
Speaker 5:We got the point. Yeah, I was about to say we got the point. Yeah, I was about to say we got the point.
Speaker 2:I'm going to put you back down If you guys are listening, definitely, you know.
Speaker 4:hit that minus 15 seconds and listen to that again, because that's wild 65 percent.
Speaker 2:It is very, very high, but it makes all the sense in the world to me. Yeah, it's that up.
Speaker 5:How about this? Would you guys be offended if I told you that social media uses you as a tool?
Speaker 2:I'd agree. I would agree as well why do you agree?
Speaker 1:because that's just blatantly what it is like if you look at it. It's we use that as a comparison tool and we find our worth in it and we're not supposed to, the word tells us. We find our worth in what the lord says that we are and who we are, and that's where we should be finding our identity. And a lot of girls they find their identity within their social media, within the likes that they get within other people, and comparison is the thief of joy ultimately, and I think that's what we find and not even just girls-wise men as well. They look at these jack dudes or these super famous guys or whatever you want to say yeah, um, and they compare that. Or moms there's, I see, tiktoks and there's moms putting down other moms because they did they're not raising their kids a way that they would raise their kids, and it's just they're comparing themselves to other people and it's just a really bad environment, honestly.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So social media is dangerous.
Speaker 3:So this was interesting too.
Speaker 2:They found it. He's over here giving me a boring stat again Sargent.
Speaker 3:you got to hear it.
Speaker 4:All right, all right, all right. I'm literally on the show telling you to figure this out. Somebody's watching me, all right, all right and I got no privacy.
Speaker 3:So in 2007, the induction of the smartphone increased suicide in teens and young adults by 92%. But that's a stat Stat.
Speaker 2:Got it.
Speaker 3:So like yeah, this is like really interesting.
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Speaker 3:All right. So actually this is a question for all of you. Do you think that social media has made culture more or less interesting?
Speaker 2:Ladies first yeah.
Speaker 5:I would say less interesting, just because the bandwagon trend stereotype of everyone just kind of going with the flow. People constantly change their opinion to fit the mold and to be on the trending wave.
Speaker 1:So I think it's diluted culture and real opinions that's a great question, still pondering I'm kind of in between, honestly, real opinions. It's a great question, still pondering. I'm kind of in between honestly Okay, why what she said? And then it's also like I feel like it's allowed us to hear other people's opinions more easily. You know like I don't know how to explain it, it's just yeah, just yeah.
Speaker 2:You know like, I don't, I don't know how to explain it, it just yeah, just yeah.
Speaker 4:No, I I think it's. It's interesting because you know you can grow up in a small town and it's basically in like an echo chamber. There's not like a lot of diversity or anything.
Speaker 4:But you do get that with social media. You get a bunch of other people's perspectives and stuff. So I think altogether there are some redeeming qualities to social media, but I do think that it has, rather than taken away from quote culture, it's kind of added its own part of culture and it becomes its own thing, which, although I think is kind of negative, I don't think it's necessarily taken away from culture, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Santa what you got bro so I'm gonna say it's kind of Reducted the interesting Factors in culture, like it's just there. There's so much information out there that you have less like real interaction at interactions and experiences, so like everything is just superficial, even if it is interesting like how, how long are you going to remember that interaction on social media?
Speaker 4:not very long if we're talking statistically. I love good awkward silence. But again, going back to that whole very short term dopamine rush that's what we get from social media and it does. Once that dopamine runs out, you feel empty again and you have to crawl back to social media. It's basically a drug.
Speaker 2:Here's Team Mike's thing, and I love talking to third person. I think it's a weapon. Yeah, I think social media is a weapon. I think it's a weapon because it can be utilized to do absolutely anything it wants. As it chooses to do what it wants why are you smiling so much lately? As it chooses to do what it wants and it distorts our ability to understand and connect with actual reality, If that makes any sense at all. It can convert, contort and twist anything it wants at any time. You think you know something until social media tells you otherwise. Right, Even the foundational principles of the way we operate, our human bodies, science, all these things social media can provoke, twist and manipulate all of it. So when you're really digging deep on reality, it turns into a TV show. It just got dark in here. Now we're going to switch subjects.
Speaker 4:But like kind of not really, because I think it still kind of relates.
Speaker 2:A little bit, but we're going to switch subjects.
Speaker 5:N-I-L. Beautiful segue, right yeah.
Speaker 2:N-I right NIL name, image and likeness deals. They are massive in college sports. Even little kids, even little you know diesel dudes that play football now are looking at NIL deals for corporations saying, hey, you're seven years old, you play football, you knock that kid's helmet off. Here we're Fruit Loops eat our cereal.
Speaker 4:Tell other kids to do it too.
Speaker 2:Baby gronk, yeah goodness so, with that in mind, ladies, this is ridiculously important because you guys now have the power to speak for women all over the world. I'm coughing, but if you guys can see Lainey's- face.
Speaker 4:It's hilarious.
Speaker 2:It's like smiling and not smiling at the same time. With that in mind, we know there's a massive, disparaging difference in money being distributed with men's and women's sports. We are going to kick a question off and, des, you start it. Do you think women are being fairly paid at the professional level in women's sports?
Speaker 5:Yes and no, and I say this because, doing the research from years and years back, the WNBA was giving out salaries based on their network income so people who would tune in, the amount of people who would buy tickets and that just wasn't the equivalent to using the NBA as an example. It was a completely different scale of things. So they were getting paid less, but almost as if it was the same percentage. So, while LeBron James could be getting 13% of the Lakers' pay, that is probably 300% more than what Candice Parker was getting paid when she was on the Sparks. But it's just because it's the drastic difference of engagement Now, being that we have a lot more people tuning in to women's sports, but specifically women's basketball, with Kaitlyn Clark, angel Reese, the whole rise of that.
Speaker 5:I think there's more opportunity to up the pay because they have sold out arenas already for seasons that haven't even started, so unrivaled seasons that just passed those ticket sales were through the roof. They're opening up new WNBA teams in Toronto, california, the Golden State Valkyries. Their season has not started and they've already outsold their arena for multiple games. So I think now the pace should be upped and it should be more of an equivalent, just because it's kind of getting the same engagement.
Speaker 4:But short answer was yes and no, I guess okay, but but based off of that and I don't, I don't disagree really um, what is like the price of an nba ticket compared to like a wmba ticket, like I don't know what they are, but let's just say it's like a hundred dollars, a WNBA ticket being like $40 or $50. The same amount of people might show up the same amount of time for a game, but if you increase the price of a ticket, are you going to get the same amount of sales?
Speaker 5:I would say now, yes, just because of the rise in the hype around women's basketball, and even collegiately we don't even have to go professionally, but collegiately there has been more people tuning in more opinions. People are kind of putting respect on women's basketball Lane.
Speaker 1:Hi, what you tanking Hi?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:What you tanking? Just kind of agreeing yes and no, because I've had this argument with my brother before.
Speaker 2:Okay, If you guys know Lane's brother, he's a basketball player. Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:And so, like she said, it's based off who was tuning in and everything, and obviously that's a lot more in the men's because they find it more entertaining. There's dunking, there's actual like a lot of height and more athleticism, obviously, just because naturally men are bigger, faster, stronger for the most part, not all the time. I just think that, like she said, now that there's more exposure to women's basketball with, like Paige Buckers as well and Juju Watkins, like all of them, like it's putting more respect for women's basketball and I think that it could be upped more because more people are starting to tune in.
Speaker 2:It's starting to sell out arenas and everything like that? Do we have stats?
Speaker 4:We do have some NIL stats.
Speaker 2:Let's go ahead and read out a stat.
Speaker 4:So what's very interesting is you look at the year 2022. Okay, nil just came out recently Well came back. That is Women in the top 100 athletes, men and women just came out recently Well came back. That is Women in the top 100 athletes. Men and women were only taking about 32% of the NIL. Like 32% of the top 100 were women. In 2023, that went up to 52%.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 4:So more than half of the top 100 athletes were women.
Speaker 2:That is a stat.
Speaker 4:That is, were women. That is a stat. That is a stat.
Speaker 2:Stat.
Speaker 4:So I think, you guys are oh, there's the mic. I think you guys are totally on it, like the engagement is definitely increasing very dramatically. It is amazing and basketball definitely is, I think, the catalyst for that. It's definitely the showcase.
Speaker 3:So I guess this is a question I was thinking about, because when I'm thinking about the whole NIL process, I kind of think that the people that are doling out these NIL deals are almost like the people that run the music industry they're trying to make as much money as possible without paying as little as possible to the athlete. If they could get away with paying less, they would. So are they trying to do that to to women?
Speaker 5:hmm, this is, this is all for you, ladies um, I think the initial start of it was probably yes, um, as little as they can dish out, they were trying, but because of the engagement now, um, and the more recognition, they have no choice yeah and using um flage johnson.
Speaker 5:Last year at lsu people were asking her if she's declaring for the draft, if she's going to do this, and she said no. So she took the extra year. She's currently at LSU because she got paid more in NIL than she would have if she declared for the draft and got a rookie salary. So doing that, just the talent she's put out, the talent a lot of collegiate women's basketball players have put out. People now have no choice but to do it, to put that respect on their name and give them the accreditation, give them their flowers and because they are constantly growing their fan base and getting more money in for these businesses, they have to give them their flowers back and pay them out.
Speaker 2:So now I'm going to jump in. Okay, I agree. You want to know why I agree? Because the return on investment is worth it. That's the only reason I agree with you. That is it. I have nothing else to say about any of these players you mentioned, or anything like that. Because you want to know why the men are under the same scrutiny. If you show no return on investment, we will not invest in you period. That's all there is to it. We will not invest in you period. That's all there is to it. The big problem I was having with a lot of the ladies 2023, going into 2024 and now, finally, 2025, they were whining and yelling and screaming and complaining. Without the ROI, there was no ROI. Your return on investment was low. Who was paying for you? The men who were coming to the games? The men Were women supporting you.
Speaker 5:No, I would fully agree.
Speaker 2:Now you're tough because you've had support. Your gameplay has gone up, and guess who's still out supporting you? The men. You know why your ROI has gone up Because of the men, not because of women. So that leads me to my next question why aren't women supporting more women in women's sports?
Speaker 1:Jealousy, the mind of comparison.
Speaker 5:Jealousy.
Speaker 4:I love getting this perspective.
Speaker 3:There's a song for everything. This is great. I didn't think about it that way.
Speaker 2:Why Lane? Why are they?
Speaker 1:jealous Because they're not as good as them. I guess it's a self-image problem that people have and a lot of people aren't realistic with themselves and are fed like, oh, you're going to go D1 because you were this good at this small school that played not very good competition and you were a star there. But when you get put into other competition with people who are as good or better than you, you start to fall apart and you're like, oh, I should have been getting this because I was this good then. But in all reality and people are feeding into that what parents and AU coaches and everything are feeding it oh, they're going to be d, they're going to be D1. They're going to go D1.
Speaker 4:In reality, they're probably a D2, naia player, d3, even that's crazy because the actual 1% statistic of people that actually make it to D1, that's starting to show.
Speaker 3:And that's a stat, that is a stat. Oh, we did it that time.
Speaker 4:If you didn't know, 1% of high school athletes make it to D1. 1% of D1 athletes make it to professional. That's simple. It's really simple, but that really starts to show when you have these small town kids that have been told all their life you're going to go pro, you're going to go pro, you're investing everything. You sucked at math, but you're a decent football player and so you get left playing at some D2, d3 school and you're not doing great academically and then you go and be a plumber.
Speaker 2:That happens all too, often so, with that in mind, I'll go to my next question. We all understand the points you just made. Men are showing you that they're willing to boost your ROI solely based upon your skill. You guys just expressed that women are jealous, jealous. Oh, I hit the note. I hit the note.
Speaker 5:Great vocals, yeah, great vocals. So, with that in mind, is that a?
Speaker 2:mizum? No, that's not. He doesn't exist. So with that in mind, are you going to have to continue to lean on men looking at your game and prove and prove and say, she's fire, I'll pay her a milli, I'll rip, we'll throw that on TV, while the girls over there are saying, yeah, I'm hating on her, I don't care how dope she is, she's short as a fat head. You know what I mean. And with that, are you going to continue to have to lean on the male presence in your sport by comparison to saying, hey, there's got to be women. That will help women, not just talk about it, but do it and help expose the women's game in a big way? Is there anyone out there that you believe can pull that off, or do you think women are even interested in helping?
Speaker 5:I think so. I just think that a small step in it is the stereotype that girls take things a lot more personable. They're more sensitive when it comes to certain topics and comparison. And so, using basketball because we're basketball players but differentiating on the court, we're going against each other. We're fighting for a position, but off the court I going against each other. We're fighting for a position, but off the court I'm going to support you. I want you to get to places and and reach those heights.
Speaker 5:Um, we just saw Paige Beckers uh, shout out Juju Watkins after she tore her ACL, and press conferences and questions were like are you there for her? Have y'all exchanged numbers? Because Paige also tore her ACL a few years back and she expressed that, yes, they have made a personal connection and she is there for her and she's you know, she wants to help her walk through that mental battle that's going to be returning to basketball. So, seeing that on that big of a stage, that she put her pride aside, them going against each other, them fighting for a championship on different teams to be there for her mental health, her physical health, her emotional health, that just shows that's a small step where we can separate being on the court and being off the court and supporting each other. So I'd want to say we can get there and that women want to support each other there. Just want to say we can get there and that women want to support each other.
Speaker 1:Um, there just has to be steps I agree there's a whole thing of women support women and then they also women tear down women. So it's just finding that fine line and finding the group that truly wants to support other women and take that step to get there. And I think, with the whole men being the main supporting aspect, I think a lot of it for girls is that getting a compliment from a guy in the same sport as you means more than what a girl complimenting you does. Why, I guess, getting that other perspective back to the social media stuff, it's getting that, that feed, that dopamine, I guess you that other perspective back to the social media stuff, it's getting that, that feed, that dopamine, I guess you could say. But because it's like how stereotypically Men are better than women at their sports or whatever they say, that, granted, there are guys who are worse at basketball than what we are. So, um, I think it's just getting that respect, I think.
Speaker 5:and finally getting because there wasn't a lot of respect from men to women or women to women, and just trying to get that respect from both species, um, I'd also chime in and say, I mean, that's just kind of a more general way to address it, but I'd also say that getting a compliment from a guy who hoops or plays basketball seems more genuine. Going back to the females are jealous and comparison is high. It could be completely fake coming from another girl. Agreed and completely disingenuous.
Speaker 1:Yes, so yes, very very can be ingenuine and not real. They could just be lying straight to your face. Girls are fake. A lot of girls are fake. Not all girls, but there are a lot of girls who are fake to your face. So it's like but when a guy normally compliments you on a sport, they're being genuine about it. Not a lot of guys are going to gaslight you into believing you're good at your sport especially.
Speaker 2:I appreciate that honesty. I really do. I think that's one of the biggest problems with women supporting women, which is why men will always be on top in regards to it. Like example, you made a really good point of saying you know, at a professional level, guys tend to jump higher, but doesn't that say a lot when a guy that has a particular set of skills that are elite can look at a woman with the same set of skills and say she's elite, but a woman can't look at that same woman without throwing shade, reason being why the ROI is greater when it comes to men. How about this? And this isn't a real thing. What if women had control over your ROI? What if women had control over the money you make? Do you really think women would actually give you the money you genuinely deserve, or do you think men are more likely to give you the money that you genuinely deserve?
Speaker 3:That's a good point.
Speaker 4:I will say statistically I think there is I don't have the exact percent, but there's there has been significant increase in women supporting women because of NIL, a lot of collaborations within college athletics, and then you have, like, woman-owned brands that are specifically going out and giving NIL deals to these women. So we have seen an increase in that.
Speaker 3:But, yes, again, the men still have the majority of funds, basically, yeah, I think if women had control of the ROI back to the jealousy point I think a lot more women would be jealous and not want to give them what they owe. So you guys answer. So.
Speaker 5:I'd say, if you asked me this a year ago, I'd say, yeah, definitely a man should be handling the ROI, the profit, the financial. But now, being that there's higher statistics, higher women supporting women we just had the Nike and Gatorade commercial where there's a lineup of female athletes in unison on the same commercial, supporting the things, putting out the same brands and image, and so now I think the intentionality and the understanding behind it, there's a little bit more progressiveness. So I'd almost put it 50-50 now. Ooh.
Speaker 2:What do you think, Lane?
Speaker 1:I agree.
Speaker 4:Sounds like a cop-out. Okay, sounds like a cop out.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm not going to drop the statistic that I want to drop, but I'll tell you this I kind of want you to drop the statistic.
Speaker 1:Of course you do.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you this, though You're right, it's getting a little better, but I'm telling you, right now it's a 95-5, 95% men still are doing it, but it used to be 99-1.
Speaker 2:He's not locking them. So, with that in mind, you're right, there's growth, but ultimately, the people that are seeing you and that are pressing up your finances are men. They see what you're doing, they see you're dope, they see you're very, they see you're very marketable, and now they're like yes, pay her. Now, a lot of these other brands are going to be coming up that are women-owned brands. I'm not trying to be mean when I say this, but they're going to take advantage of that push, so they're going to jump into support too. It helps their brands grow.
Speaker 5:That goes back to the bandwagon of social media and kind of just going on with the trends. It's disingenuous, but it's going to help.
Speaker 2:You're right, it's disingenuous. The reason why I agree with that completely is because where were those women brands when you were struggling?
Speaker 1:Exactly they weren't around. But now, all of a sudden, your ROI is going up, yep all of a sudden, your ROI is going up and with you saying that the men, they'll, they'll pay, that They'll pay them what they need, or because they're this good, it's, she's dead, says it all the time. Men have waffle brains and that feels good, that it's they can compartmentalize.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that word.
Speaker 1:And it's like they're more logical. They'll look at okay, this is what it is, despite however else they act. Yeah, they might be a terrible person, but they can hoop like you know what I mean and girls are like oh yeah, no, I don't like you, because you did this to me three years ago and you were mean to so-and-so and this, that and the third. So, yeah, it's like more emotional connection for women than men Not to get sidetracked, but I love that phrase, this, that and the third.
Speaker 2:You can use it any time.
Speaker 2:I mean any time. I completely agree with everything you guys just expressed. I completely agree with everything you guys just expressed and, wrapping this episode up, which has been a really good one, I really believe we need to start hearing the ladies' perspective in regards to this, especially at the collegiate level, so we can get a clear understanding of what you guys are experiencing and look at the truth for what it actually is, because there's so much fogginess because of social media. The NIL process can work for everyone. You just have to be worthy of it. It's really that simple and there are women out there in all sports that are showing that. If you guys look at this statistic, flag football is the fastest growing sport in America.
Speaker 2:And it's not a men's flag football, it is women's flag football. Stats, yes, stats. With that in mind, you can't get around the truth. That's been there the entire time. This has nothing to do with men and women. It has everything to do with what you do in your sport.
Speaker 1:I agree Skill level.
Speaker 2:So play hot, get paid Period. So no more beefing, no more chirping, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5:Talk is cheap it is.
Speaker 3:Talk is cheap, hit a three.
Speaker 2:Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep beep, beep.
Speaker 3:I think conflict is more attractive. Conflict is always more attractive, and culture is going to draw you back into that, so you have to fight it.
Speaker 2:And that's social media's deal. Let the truth be told, Santa.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What time is it? You know what time it is? I think it's time for trivia.
Speaker 3:Are you sure it might be? I think so. Trivia time, trivia, all right, all right Wow. That was eight notes. So the first romance TV show was which title A, fine Romance A, b, a First Romance and C your Life Belongs to Me.
Speaker 1:Repeat the answers please.
Speaker 2:You guys should have seen Jason Blunt's face. He looked at us and was like what the flip.
Speaker 3:So it was A a fine romance. B first romance. C your life belongs to me.
Speaker 2:Ladies, guys, guys, you gotta go first. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna go with C.
Speaker 2:Of course you are.
Speaker 3:Alright, des what's yours.
Speaker 5:I kinda wanna go with C. I'm going to go with A, though.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 4:All right, Chop, you know I'm going with B, the first romance, because that was in the question. I feel like you're trying to throw me off.
Speaker 3:All right, mike, you can't look at the answers.
Speaker 2:I think I'm going to go with chop on this one. I'm gonna go B.
Speaker 3:Oh, the answer is C.
Speaker 2:That's what I thought too.
Speaker 1:You want me on Family Feud.
Speaker 3:That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Good answer.
Speaker 2:Good answer. And we have a second Trivia question. It's random, good answer, good answer, oh my goodness. And we have a second trivia question. It's random, it's random, it's random All right, yeah.
Speaker 3:So how did a man named Lord Timothy Dexter make his fortune? Was it A shipping cats to South America? B, was it P tea-Trades or C Housing Ladies?
Speaker 1:His name was what?
Speaker 3:Sir Timothy Dexter, and he made part of his fortune doing one of these things. And I can say the options again A Shipping cats to South America. B T-Trades C Housing I'm gonna. B T-Trades C Housing.
Speaker 5:I'm going to go with T-Trades.
Speaker 3:That was B, All right B.
Speaker 1:I just want to go with A because it's the fun answer.
Speaker 4:I'm going with A, it's so just different, that it has to be the answer I'm going with.
Speaker 3:C, it's A.
Speaker 1:It is shipping cats.
Speaker 5:Why did we win twice?
Speaker 1:Well, here's the story behind this? I don't want to know.
Speaker 3:I'm goaded. He was actually tricked into shipping a whole bunch of cats Because his peers Were trying to make him Invest in something that would lose money, and Everybody in South America loved cats, so he made a huge fortune.
Speaker 4:That's almost as funny as Stubby Clap.
Speaker 2:Never Nothing's funnier than Stubby Clap.
Speaker 3:Come back and listen to Stubby Clap Goated.
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Speaker 5:Don't. That is what I would say is don't. Social media is fake. Everything that gets put on is a facade. Um, people want you to see what they want you to see. They're putting out a certain picture of themselves and that's not a picture that you need to compare yourself to. That you need to try to follow up on. Um, be true to you and completely yourself. Stand on your convictions, shout out my mother. She always taught me to be a leader, not a follower, and to do everything with genuine intent and to follow the Lord. So I would say just be yourself, go back to the Bible for a lot of things and go back to the Bible for a lot of things I would say, piggybacking off what Desha said to just find your identity in Christ.
Speaker 1:A lot of the comparison is physical comparison, looks and stuff. So you got to realize that it's I mean, I even struggle with this and I know literally every single person does and it's. You are beautifully and wonderfully made in the image of God and you were made this way for a reason. That's not saying you shouldn't stay healthy, keep your body healthy and everything, but because your body is still a temple and that. Just don't do it and make sure you find a good group. Don't do it and make sure you find a good group. Surround yourself with good people who won't pressure you to compare yourself to other people or post a certain picture because you look this way. Or don't post this because, oh yeah, you kind of look not very good in that. So I wouldn't post that if I were you, but you liked it. So it's just kind of make sure you're surrounding yourself with good people and just find your identity in Christ rather than the social media.
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