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Tricking or Not : Financial Expectations in Dating
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Ever wondered why a simple sundress can make you feel unstoppable? Jus Misty and I kick off this episode by celebrating summer fashion and the self-assurance that comes with it. We swap stories about fitness journeys, the magic of "drive-by dresses," and the irresistible charm of men's gray sweatpants. This lively chat is all about embracing effort over perfection and the playful dynamics of attraction that make summer so delightful.
Next, we roll up our sleeves for a hard-hitting conversation about "tricking" and societal expectations. What happens when financial support and sexual favors mix? We dissect how these transactions skew relationship norms and set up false standards. By sharing personal experiences and honest reflections, we aim to shed light on the importance of transparency and setting realistic expectations in modern dating.
Finally, we tackle the intricate dance of gender roles and the transactional nature of today's relationships. Should financial exchanges be seen as mutual support or something more cynical? From discussing the pressures men face to the high expectations some women set, we cover everything from traditional values to modern-day "simp" culture. With our signature blend of humor and candor, we navigate the complexities of love, money, and mutual respect in relationships. Don’t miss out on this multifaceted discussion that’s both entertaining and enlightening!
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Summer Fashion and Body Appreciation
Speaker 1Yo yo yo, it's your boy, bobby Frost. And Bobby Frost Media presents Tri-Parenting. I'm with the beautiful lady Jess Misty.
Speaker 2Hey y'all. Hey, I practiced on that.
Speaker 1We see, that's why I came in with a little bit of umph in it. Yeah, a little bit of umph in it. We back. Hey again. I appreciate all the Tri-Nations Y'all tapping in. I fucks with it. I appreciate it. You're rocking out. That's what it's about. Summertime fun the ladies out there.
Speaker 1I hope y'all doing summertime fine. I hope y'all wasn't doing all big back activities all summer, Because now you don't want to put that sundress on because you feel like it's not what y'all call it. I'm trying to think of the word what do y'all call it?
Speaker 2The sundress. I call them no no, no y'all.
Speaker 1When something ain't going away, I want to go. Uh, oh, I got it. No, I'm not. When y'all what y'all call it, it's not giving oh yeah, it's not giving it's not giving. So hey, again, summer ain't kicked in yet. You got about three weeks. Hit the gym, tighten up what you can tighten up and and by the time that mid-summer come in, you back in with it. But yeah, ladies, I love song dresses.
Speaker 2I don't give a fuck about my big back, no more, because I just feel like y'all don't give a fuck about it.
Speaker 1You know what? I will say this. I can't speak for every nigga, but I know. If I'm looking at a female, I know she took time and effort with her shit, like when I go to the gym. You know what I'm saying. I be looking like, yeah, that's one of my motivations Going to the gym. I can look and be like, yeah, she working. It's a different type of she working.
Speaker 2She cares, and they ain't called sundresses, they're called drive-by dresses.
Speaker 1Drive-by dresses. Thank you Okay. I never knew I never knew that cause you ain't never had A bitch of them.
Speaker 2Bitches on, obviously.
Speaker 1There you go, so hey.
Speaker 2I never knew. So now you text your old motherfucker and say you got that drive-by dress on today. Yeah.
Speaker 1Bitch, you know what?
Speaker 2that mean Come lift this dress.
Speaker 1Because I'm shooting up the club.
Speaker 2Yep, you got that drive-by dress on and we got baby wipes in our purse, don't you yeah?
Speaker 1We ready? I love that, and the winter too, but I love the summer just because I done. Got smacked upside my head a couple times because I'm walking through I'm, yeah, that motherfucking looking like two basketballs back there getting dribbled by hot sauce back and down and one and you know what?
Speaker 2it's crazy. I, my ass, don't move like that. I'm learning a lot with this new ass, okay, and it does not move like that. So you, first of all, you don't need ass for the jiggle, because just because you have ass don't mean it's gonna jiggle, obviously you know why you shouldn't? Now I can play basketball and I'm athletic and it's just not jiggly, it's more firm I'm gonna tell you what it is, ain't that? Ain't, nobody did it to me, the booty.
Speaker 1Okay, I don't guess, no what is it you gotta have that stank walk.
Speaker 2Oh, I don't got that. Yeah, see, that's what it is, that stank walk.
Speaker 1That stank walk that stank walk like Me and Rest in peace to my nigga.
Speaker 2I didn't saw him too. I had.
Speaker 1Rest in peace to my nigga lady man. That's my nigga dog. I wish my nigga was here. He'd have been on the podcast. We said all the time you can that motherfucker right there, you buy your little like that motherfucker, yeah, that motherfucker.
Speaker 2Good, y'all be stairs Crazy. We don't be we be staring at your niggas in the summertime that hard. But okay, For me it is the body. We do like the bodies, the big the bodies. We do be like, damn he over there. That bad, I don, that's for sure we don't just be sitting back like, oh, you see that print. Okay, yes, we do.
Speaker 1I'm telling you I'm lying. When you walk through with that sundress on and you got that stink walk and it, like the mother, that ass is swallowing that motherfucker you like.
Speaker 2So sundress is like equivalent to gray sweatpants.
Speaker 1No, it's way better than gray sweatpants.
Speaker 2No no yeah for you.
Speaker 1Listen, looking at the dick or not, I'm saying it. But the only reason I'm saying it? Because you can see that motherfucker from the front side and back All we need is to see is from the front.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Sweat, that's what I'm saying. That means your dick ain't big enough, rob.
Speaker 1Sorry Listen, you can know, this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2You can't see it from the back. What the fuck. For us it's gray sweats, bro. I know I'm saying it's equivalent for y'all.
Speaker 1I'm saying they're not equal.
Speaker 2That's what I'm saying, yeah, they are to us. That is our sundress for y'all. No, I'm with you, girl. That's what. I'm saying you can't tell me it ain't equal, bro.
Speaker 1I'm saying when you take it out, it's not equal.
Speaker 2It is for us.
Speaker 1I know what you're saying Listen, but the reason why I'm telling you it's a different level. It's not Girls, don't do what we do what you just said.
Speaker 2No, that's when we do it. We sit in that bitch like God damn. No, that's when we do it. Now, if your dick ain't yeah, you don't know, because if your dick ain't big enough, for that's what I just told you. The sundress gave you everything, but we not looking at everything y'all looking at yeah, you looking at what we looking at is the tits, that's what I just said girl, yeah, y'all can't.
Speaker 1The sundress is different.
Speaker 2The to tell you because you're not going to get it, because you're not a woman, you, we is getting everything we want to get in the sweats that's what I'm trying to tell you y'all got to look at more stuff to. Y'all got to look at titties and the hips. We don't give a fuck about that now. If you got a body, you got one. We see what we need to see in the gray sweats I'm with you.
Speaker 1I ain't knocking it, you know. So I got cussed out about that before putting on gray sweats coming out the house. What you got the gray sweats on. Put these on.
Speaker 2Because you're trying to be funny, just like if that bitch walk out in that sundress and she ain't got no bra or no panties on. You're going to be like, yeah, but then you're going to be like, well, wait where you going though.
Speaker 1Yeah, you got a point there. You got a point there.
Speaker 2Fuck them shorts and them hoop shorts. It's the gray sweatpants.
Speaker 1I just told y'all, I just told y'all what I've been on.
Speaker 2I'm gonna ask Missy what I've been on.
Speaker 1I've been out there searching for the sundresses. That's my. You know how motherfuckers bird walk, not walk, but bird watch.
Speaker 2And you see motherfucking stargaze. I've been looking for the hoochie daddy shorts that got the tip hanging out to the bottom.
Speaker 1That's diabolical.
Exploring the Concept of Tricking
Speaker 2That's crazy work when it can't fit in the yeah that's diabolical. Stop getting me unfocused. You know what I'm saying my nigga fat. He ain't gonna win or win no.
Speaker 1Yeah, nigga, do some shit like that. I'm gonna tell you, man, I might say something to a dog Like hey, nigga, hey you on some bullshit nigga Nah, cause sometimes they can't help it.
Speaker 2If you can't, nigga, put some. That's just like me getting mad because of a bitch ass, nigga that's indecent exposure. Nigga that ain't got nothing to do with you.
Speaker 1That's indecent exposure. No, I'm being honest here and I ain't going to go too far into that, because I get what you're saying. But if a nigga doing it like I didn't, Nigga, I don't literally mean off the tip.
Speaker 2He can go to jail for that. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1That Quan would tell you. We used to work with a guy at the detention center. We used to have to I think he got talked to about it the shit he used to wear was so fucking tight I'm serious, you know what I'm saying the workout pants and shit.
Speaker 2Why was that his style?
Speaker 1I don't know. It could have been his culture, it could have been his race.
Speaker 1I don't know he wasn't black no, most black dudes and we used to look Like wide open. And I'm going to tell you this Quan man I hope Don't get mad at me he used to know Quan thought he was like Gay, so what he did, one time Quan was like in the office and like was sitting down and he was Like a what they call it cross fit trainers and shit like that he went and cocked his leg up and stretched right by Quan.
Speaker 2Just to piss him off.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2That's what I would have did too, but we used to say like dog like you working with the dudes.
Speaker 1So you know, some of these little boys come in here. You know what I'm saying. They switch it Like dog.
Speaker 2That shit too tight.
Speaker 1He definitely should have had them tight ass pants on, yeah, he used to wear them all the time Like man you tripping, dog you tripping, you tripping. So we're going to get to the topic and this is my thing we done talked about this before with tricking, but I seen a guy off Instagram and what he said it made a lot of sense to me. I'm going to try to pull it up. I'm going to see if y'all can hear it when I pull it up.
Speaker 3Let me see it's dirty macking. Tricking is a man giving a woman money for time, sex and cooperation, whatever the case may be, paying a woman to be with her or paying a woman to sleep with her. That's tricking. That's it. That's all A square is somebody who lives, a regular civilian, a person that's not involved in the underworld, criminal world. That's what it squares.
Speaker 3Paying for sex is supposed to be an underground thing. So when you're paying for sex, you're supposed to be paying strippers and prostitutes and women like that. You're not supposed to go to the woman who you know she's a CNA or she work at a call center but she's struggling to pay her bills. You're not supposed to come and say, hey, babe, what's up with that? I give you a thousand dollars and she's just trying to feed her kid. You're not supposed to do that.
Speaker 3That put bullshit in the game and that sets unrealistic expectations. Y'all wonder why regular fucking women who got, who make forty thousand dollars a year, saying shit like, oh, I need a man who gonna make six figures and this and this and this and that. That's because tricking who ain't got no motherfucking game are paying regular women, and so it puts bullshit in the game, it dilutes the game. So now they have these square women who not prostitutes or who not strippers have stripper and prostitute expectations. They have gold digger expectations and they pushing these expectations on regular working men. Tricking on a square is dirty macking, tricking is a man giving Listen.
Speaker 1I'm with that 100% because me and Misty about to go, I see she getting riled up. For y'all ladies, this is the truth. I've been said this why are you perpetrating Like you're not Trying to trick for the pussy. You trying to make it seem like you into this woman. You're not into the woman, you're into what's between their legs. So why would you not First? Why would you not First of all? Why are you not leading with that?
Speaker 2That ain't what I think I got from him At first, when we talked about it. I was.
Speaker 1I'm getting it and I'm about to break it down. So then you start making like, why are you even approaching a regular woman like that? If you're going to help the baby girl out, help her out. But if you only doing this shit to get the draws, you're fucking it up. Because now you got her again with an expectation that she's not going to run into.
Speaker 1The average man, the average man, is not about to be sitting this bitch just to fuck you. Anytime you need something, they're cashing the fuck out. You're fucking up expectations. It's the same way. I can't expect every female I run into to give me a fucking threesome. If that's not what. That's not the average woman giving out threesomes, it's a lot of women's. That's not what they're into. So just because I wanted to, one super freak doing some shit like that. My expectation now is every time I fuck with a female, she gotta bring another bitch in the bed. That's not real expectation. And I use this with female because that's what happened a female running to a nigga who don't have no conversation, no game, his only method is cashing out, and now you got her head fucked up.
Speaker 2For the rest of niggas you run into, because that's not how life actually works if her head fucked up, first of all, that's because her head is fucked up, because that is not how we think. I know that if I'm fucking with a drug dealing nigga that get money every single day and it's fast money, fast money and we fucking with each other, yes, I expect him to get cash out trick, whatever. Whatever the fuck y'all want to call it.
Speaker 1See, I'm going to stop you right there.
Speaker 2No, don't stop me, because I didn't stop you.
Speaker 1You know, keep going, I'm going to come back to you.
Speaker 2It's a difference from a nine to five worker. If I'm fucking with a regular nigga, like he said, then no, I don't expect you to do what you can do, like give me $300 to go get my nails and toes done you know what I'm saying. Or I might pull up on you and just ask you for $40 to go da-da-da-da-da, like. It's not about underground and regular and prostitute, it's about knowing who you fuck with and that's it and that's all. And it's not unrealistic to think that every nigga you fuck with is supposed to take care of you. It they? They correlate fucking with taking care of when. That's not it. But then all in the same breath, me and want to be like we're we supposed to be men? Okay, well, me and our providers I'm with you 100 on that so provide my thing again.
Speaker 1That's not. That's not what I'm saying, what you just said. Even if I'm a nigga that's selling drugs or scamming or something like that, that doesn't mean that I supposed to go on this bitch and pay for pussy, and that's the expectation. When that expectation gets set by a nigga, the problem is this is what sex always supposed to be from the jump. If we're going back to biblical times, or from the jump thought sex really supposed to be for what To procreate. So then, after we got past the procreation part, we did. We got past the procreation part we did. We got past the procreation part. What did we get into? We got into for pleasure. If you're getting to play please, I'm getting pleased. Why the fuck am I paying the fee? How?
Speaker 2often and I and you always try to go back to you and I get it, because you can only come for comfort. You're a dick. But realistically, how often are we getting pleased? It's very rare, I'm trying to tell you. It is very fucking rare that women are having orgasms seriously. So that's why that's what I'll be feeling like when we had a conversation and to get to that me and a nigga that's definitely gonna come up. What do you mean? You don't want? I'm laying here with getting a wet ass. You're not making me come, but you constantly want to fuck me.
Speaker 1You have to compensate so why not just tell a guy like hey, nigga, I gotta move on, you're not satisfying me.
Speaker 2I told you what you have to do. You want to keep fucking me? You gotta pay now. If you want to keep fucking me, that mean you accept that you gotta pay me because you're not making me come and that's back to what originally was the point.
Speaker 1Was you deluding the game? Because now this female and that might not be misty, now we not. That's why I said my misty, but it's a lot of them out there her expectation is no matter who she's fucking, because you hear him talk about it.
Speaker 2It's really not, though because I'm trying to tell you, when you fucking somebody and it is pleasure and you getting that nut off, I done fucked a broke nigga before. So I'm telling you, it don't be about money. Most niggas don't got good dick rob. A lot of everybody think they got the good dick, just like every bitch think they got good pussy. I get that. But I'm trying to tell you that good dick is not a dime a dozen, bro.
Speaker 2Y'all have to really focus on make, on pleasure in a woman. You know what I'm saying. Like when we really breaking down sex for real, for real, your job is to pleasure us. You know what I'm saying. Just like you said in the previous episode, if my pussy ain't dry, we can fix that. You can spit on this motherfucker. We can cut KY jelly, this motherfucker. You can fuck me in the ass, we can fix that. But if you can't please me, it's nothing we can do other than you figuring out how to please a woman. So while you figure that out, what the fuck am I supposed to do?
Speaker 1I'm with you, I'm with you, I'm just this is my was like, because I've been saying this for the longest. It's females out here and and I'll be looking like you gotta pay delay. What do? What the fuck? Do that even mean you gotta pay delay, like you? You saying this to me, like seriously, like you don't know that you're getting pleased too. Now, what you just said, if you're not getting pleased, understandable. I done heard females say this and they was dead ass serious. Even if they getting pleased, I'm still not leaving with a wet ass.
Speaker 2I understand that, because most of the time you got to think about it, and when it comes to this shit, you already know I'm going to keep it all the way. One honey, that's what we want. Most of the time, niggas got bitches. Niggas don't want to date, n date. Niggas don't want to take you nowhere. Niggas want to just come over your house, smoke, watch netflix and fuck.
Speaker 2So what is that doing for me? You using my motherfucking electricity? You probably eating my motherfucking food, like you ain't doing shit, but coming over getting your nut off, that does not help me at all. I get it. So, no, yes, you gotta cut the check. My boy, I ain't listening. I get so up. I don't get upset. I just feel like motherfuckers be expecting you to want. What am I gonna do with that, though, with what I just described to you? What am I gonna do with that? You came to my house and that's my bed, my lights, my, my food, if we, probably, because you're gonna ask me for some water. So we have my shit watching my internet, and then we fucking you nut and I don't, and or even if I do, nut, what did I get out of that? And see, that's that nut ain't shit what you just saying.
Expectations and Compensation in Relationships
Speaker 1So I gotta pay. I'm getting a nut and I gotta pay. Now we went to think what you just said, stop what you just said. Yes, you were saying getting a nut ain't enough.
Speaker 2You came and used all my shit and got in my space. Guess what I can see if we went out to eat. You missed my point. Before that I said y'all don't Getting a nut, ain't enough.
Speaker 1You came and used all my shit and ain't got in my space.
Speaker 2Guess what I can see if we went out to eat. You missed my point. Before that I said y'all don't ever want to do shit, but come to the house and fuck.
Speaker 1Nigga, damn, take a bitch out to eat first and then bring her back home. You missed what I'm saying again. I'm with everything you're saying, but this is the point. Again You're getting out. You're saying the pony part. I agree with what you were saying was if I'm coming over to your crib and I'm using up all your shit, that's understandable, females, don't? That ain't what the thing is. Females feel like if you come over to my house, if I go get a room, it's the same thing. All I'm leaving with is a wet ass. I gotta leave with some compensation.
Speaker 2that is prostitution I don't feel like at that moment I have to, unless that's what the fuck going on. I don't. I'm not a trick dog. You can't tell me to come to the room and you finna pay me. We finna fuck. That's not what we finna do it. We finna do that bitch. You finna pay me four thousand dollars because I ain't no trick. That's what we doing. I didn't have motherfuckers ask me that before, how much to fuck you, and that's what I told them four thousand dollars. Come on and then they change them. Okay, that ain't what the fuck you want to do. So stop acting like you a trick.
Speaker 2But when you fucking with a girl, like I'm saying first of all, we don't get pleased as much. You know what I'm saying. So we do feel like we just leaving with a wet ass. Like y'all don't properly date us, you know. I'm saying like, what is the fun in that? I think that nuts are way more important to y'all than it is to us. Now, don't get it twisted. The orgasm feels awesome, but it's like okay, what now? We didn't fuck, but what now? You gotta give me some money so I can go do something. I'm finna, go to the movies. I'm gonna go to the club because we did nothing but that's where I say the expectations get changed.
Speaker 1Because if you had nick, less niggas doing that shit with regular people, regular women, not prostitutes. Because here's my thing when you go pay for a prostitute, it's already sit, it's already set down. Listen, nigga, this is the rate, this is the fee. Cool, ain't nothing else to talk about. I come in here, I get mines off, I'm gone. You're not even trying to get the prostitute To get off, you're trying to get your nut and get the fuck out of there.
Speaker 1When a nigga come in the game because you don't have no conversation, like what you just said I'm going back to what you just said A nigga don't have no game. Really you can't hold a conversation with a female, you can't do none of this. Your whole MO with this female is I'm just going to cash her out. I'm just going to spend money on her to get the pussy. You fucking up her head. I don't give a fuck what no female say. You, you're fucking her head up because her expectation becomes that this is what's supposed to be done, like no. I go back to when we had the cheesecake shit going on. You know that's where that expectation come in. I'm telling you where it.
Speaker 2Come in at, I get what you're saying but I just don't agree all the way, Because if I fuck with a nigga and you start changing that like let's just say you do, did this nigga taking me out? He want to go. You know, I'm saying he call and just see what I'm doing. He every time he call, he ain't trying to come over here and chill, he just calling how you doing, how your day going okay. Boom, when I see that you're giving effort, then I don't I back down from the pay me, pay me, pay me, because I see that you want something different. But you also can fuck with a nigga. And then you be like, okay, I'm finna fuck with him for real, you feel me. But then every time I'm around you, you want to fuck. So that's all you want to do is fuck. So come on and cut that check.
Speaker 1So if that's the case, you just say, hey, that's not all I want to do. Let's end this, not cutting the check.
Speaker 2No, no, we don't got to end it, you just got to cut the check Right.
Debating the Concept of Tricking
Speaker 1That's why I said it's diluting the game. It's not. It's definitely we're going to have to agree or disagree. But if what? This is what my man said if you laid on a bill, whatever going on, if I can come to you when I'm late on a motherfucking bill and be like, hey, I need a thousand dollars because I'm late on my rent, and you like, yeah, here you go. All right, this is not tricking. No more. We mutually helping each other out.
Speaker 2We fuck, why is it tricking when you do it for me?
Speaker 1no, you missed what I said because if you can't reciprocate it, that's why it's tricking. That's why it for me. No, you missed what I said, Because if you can't reciprocate it, that's why it's tricking. That's why I said go back to what it is. If you go fuck a prostitute right now, 10 times in a motherfucking row and she charge you $500 per night, you think this 11th time when you want to go fuck and be like you know what baby, I ain't got it right now.
Speaker 2Can? She's gonna be like, yes, fuck, no, no, that's because you're talking about a prostitute, right, it's the same?
Speaker 1no, it's the same. No, this is the same thing. You just you dressing it up. That's what he was saying. You're dressing up now because here come again. If I can't, if I can't when I'm down, bad, I can't come to you, for whatever your financial reason is or whatever your beliefs is, if I can't come, you need to record me saying this no, then you need to stop fucking with her. We making a clip out of this.
Speaker 2Please do. Well, then you need to stop fucking with her.
Speaker 1That's what he talking about.
Speaker 2This is. This is so that. So that's you setting the train if you continue to fuck with her, which makes me feel like, oh, it's okay, Niggas going to keep doing this. Thank you.
Speaker 1That's where, again once, this is when it becomes tricky. It becomes tricky when you spend money to get some pussy and you she's not gonna spend no money, get dick. And what I mean by that is saying, if you say hey, you know, I'm saying right now don't be good enough right now it's tough for me right now.
Speaker 1I I'm late on my consumers, I'm late on my water. Can you help me out? Cool, I can help you out Now, if I can't come back to you At any moment in the future, whether it's your financial state or it's your beliefs, and I can't ask you. That's what made it tricky, because if I can ask you what you asked me, it's not tricky.
Speaker 2Who said, you can't though?
Speaker 1That's what I'm getting to.
Speaker 2A lot of females position to do it it ain't that they don't be in a position no I mean again, you know what we're not so weak.
Speaker 2We obviously can't be talking about every woman. I can only talk about the vast amount of females I know in flint. It's not because they can't do it more than likely it's this, just like the baby daddy shit with you sometimes. You can't fathom how, how weak these niggas is because you're not that nigga. These niggas do not be coming like that and then, for the most part, you ain't even asked me for shit. So how do I know? Because you a man, so some dudes be feeling like they can't ask a bitch for something. So it's not my fault that I'm gonna ask you for some shit and you won't ask me in return. But it ain't no nigga that cashed me out that they can't.
Speaker 1I can't cash so that's not true, misty see. That's why y'all just don't like the tricking word. It is tricking. It's tricking. Guess what I did? I was tricking Missy. That's not tricking.
Speaker 2That's your opinion and I get it.
Speaker 1I got a better one for you, right? We don't fuck. We ain't never try to fuck each other. Neither one of us try to cut each other. If you ask me for something, I'll give it to you.
Speaker 2Was that tricking? You can't use two people that don't fuck with each other on an emotional level like that. I don't think that's fair it is emotional because you can't trick with somebody that you with your mama or your sister, I'm like your fucking cousin or some shit. So no, you can't use a friend, you can use a motherfucker that, like that you was talking to right, like you're kicking it with them y'all ain't never fucked.
Speaker 2Though, and if you, if she called you and be like rob, you know I'm saying boom, I'm fucked up, I can't, I need my rent this one and you look out for her. No, that ain't tricking. You looked out for her. But if, when she called you and said that right, you know y'all ain't fucked. And when she called and she said that, like boom and you'll be like yeah, you can come over here and pick it up, you feel me boom, she thinking I'm finna, go over rob house and pick it up. But when she get over there, rob like come on.
Speaker 1I'm trying to set the mood like nigga.
Speaker 1Well, you could have just said if you give me some pussy, I'm back to what that's tricking. That's what I'm telling you see, this, this is where we losing it at, and that's why I go back to my man said this is the tricking part just because we having sexual encounters and I help you out, you help me out. The expectation is not I help you for pussy, I help you because I fucked with you and you help me because I fucked with you. Now let's go, let's stop that right there. What you just said, I feel like it becomes tricky. No hold on Cause.
Speaker 2I don't want to lose it. I feel like it becomes tricky in that situation when every time I ask you for something, you want some pussy.
Speaker 1Exactly.
Speaker 2That's all I'm saying I don't think, when two motherf to keep fucking with a bitch, yes, y'all supposed to provide, y'all supposed to be the that's y'all supposed to do, but me helping you in return. That's fine, you feel me, but I do know bitches, that trick too. I want to fuck rob. I'm finna.
Speaker 1Buy this nigga some and I would say I ain't gonna lie to the cats out there. She's fucking up the game for the ladies because you setting the expectation up for the next woman that, hey, to fuck with me you're gonna have to pay. See, that's why I'm getting that with it. If I'm helping you, help with me. Do we fuck with each other? If my expectation anytime I spend money is to fuck you, that's tricking and it's a thing.
Speaker 1Again, you have what I call undercover tricks real pimps, real whores, real street walkers know about this renegades. They all know about this. For y'all don't know that's pimp lingo, but hey, they understand this. You are undercover trick. You don't want to be proud to be a trick like did misty that you want to be proud. Say your tricks, are you undercover? So what you playing like is I'm fucking with this female to be fucking with, no, no, no. You only fucking with it because you want to get in her pants, right. So what you do is you just cash her out.
Speaker 1You're setting the expectation up for the next nigga to think it's going down like that, because I'm going to go back to what we said. It is for a man to provide, but we're going to go back to what we were saying earlier in pre-production. Here we go again. It is a man to provide, because back in the day a woman had to go do what? Tend to the chickens, tend to this, make the clothes, da-da-da-da-da. A man's job hasn't changed yet from where he started at. I got to go out and provide.
Speaker 1So a woman sitting back saying, hey, this is what you're supposed to be doing. No, I'm supposed to be doing this when you become my woman, when we just fucking dating that's what it sounds like. We're just dating. I'm getting to know you, getting to know me. I have no expectation with you could come in. When I said we fucking each other heavy enough, where organically, get to the point where if I need something, I can ask you. You need something, you can ask me. When you come straight in with it, thinking like well, I said but they come straight in thinking they can get some pussy.
Speaker 1I get it. That's why it's tricky, because you get a nut just like I'm getting a nut listen, ain't nobody fucking me for free?
Speaker 2ain't nobody laying up with? Ain't nobody laying up with me for free? I don't give a fuck how they want to correlate it. I don't give a fuck when they want to correlate it with the exchange of money. But if I am not your woman and we are not in a committed relationship, you are paying me to fuck. I don't care what nobody think, I don't care how many times y'all run this back. If I gotta, if I am single and you think you, finna, come to my house and lay up and fuck me and da, da, da, da you're going to pay listen.
Speaker 1That's why I'm saying, missy, I'm not mad at you, I don't care what they want me to put what they want to put on my name tag prostitute.
Speaker 2Hoe get your coins.
Relationship Dynamics and Gender Expectations
Speaker 1Get your coins what I'm saying is from the original point, how this shit originally started. That's why I'm going back. I always break it back to square one, break this bitch down to the least common denominator how I started off. That's why I started off. You don't give yourself up until you what Married the reason why that shit was put in, the reason why these foundations was put in. For shit like this you don't get the gray, you got the black and white, because when I give myself to you, it's already understood. I'm the woman in the house, you the man in the house. Now we about to go start off.
Speaker 1Once you start, when I'm dating, this is saying that's, that's not the same thing. No more you. If you give me the pussy, why am I paying? You could just tell nigga from a jump listen, I'm not giving you this ass until we get serious, and then you'll see if the nigga really wanna fuck with you. Guess what the nigga gonna stop doing? Even if he's a trick, if he's not getting nothing out of, he's not gonna keep doing. He's gonna go to the next chick he can trick with. But once you bring the sex into it, it's two different type of niggas. You gonna have a nigga that's tricky and a nigga that's not.
Speaker 2I think that tricking got all the way throughout and misconstrued anyway. First of all, you pay a bitch. Whether she a prostitute, I don't give a fuck who she is. You pay a bitch to get the fuck on and shut up. That's it and that's all. That's what tricking come from that girlfriend. You're paying.
Speaker 2I don't give a fuck what's going on. I don't give a fuck how the situation is. If you are not mine and you are obligated to somebody else and I'm not even the type to post niggas, but I'm just saying I can't post you on social media. We can't go nowhere because you have a woman, you're for sure paying me. If we're dating and we're just getting to know each other and we really fucking with each other and it's me and you, then that's what we doing. You call me and you ask for some money. I give it to you. I call you, you give it to me. I understand what you're saying. That's different. But if there is another woman involved I needed to make that clear If there's another woman involved and you are not mine, you're paying, and that's usually the reason niggas trick because they have girlfriends for real, for real, and you you really supposed to shut the fuck up and just be there when I need you.
Speaker 1But niggas don't be wanting to see that what you just said right there, misty, if that's the case, that's fair game. You're not deluding the game that's already. That's, that's the rule and standard, but I think that's money but.
Speaker 2But I think and I don't know him, I just heard the shit like you heard it but I think that's the part that when people talk about tricking, I think that's the part that they leave out. Usually, the niggas that spending money got bitches at home, so that's why they're spending money.
Speaker 1See, like how you said, how you tell me about every female, like that I just said most no, I have niggas. I know niggas personally. They're gonna be offended if they listen to this because they're gonna feel like I'm throwing jazz out. I'm not, but you take how you want to take. I know niggas personally who sit up. You don't have any how can you put it character. You don't have any charisma that's fine.
Speaker 1So your shit is to pay for the pussy nigga, you're fucking up the game because now you're gonna have her thinking, no, why?
Speaker 2why is? Why that's what I hate about it don't fuck up the game. Every individual is different and I get what he's saying it fuck up the game, but it don't because, as a woman, we pick up on that. Do you think we don't know that? You chatty as fuck and all you go. And when you don't say it, guess what we tell our friends. I wish this nigga just say he want to fuck and just give me the money and leave me I'm wishing this we know it's not watering the game now because we know when Derrick come.
Speaker 2We know Derrick got game, this nigga got. You know what I'm saying. We know that.
Speaker 1I don't want you to think it messed it up. The women of your same cloth is like that?
Speaker 2No, no, no, no, no it's women's out here.
Speaker 1I'm telling you what I know.
Speaker 2It is some green women.
Speaker 1They ain't green. This is how they feel.
Speaker 2I don't give a fuck if you my nigga. I think that 90% of women think that and I don't think anything is wrong with it.
Speaker 1That's where the gang got deluded. No, it get deluded Cause you don't know how bad dick is. If it's bad dick and listen.
Speaker 2And you also don't know how motherfuckers Don't be taking care of motherfuckers Like do you know't niggas don't be niggas. Listen, if that same nigga had a, came in my house and been like boom, we chilling and jumped on the phone like bro, come cut this grass over here. I'm at such, such, such and such you feel me nigga, my pussy would have got wet. You know how to be a nigga, you being a man, you feel me because I hate when bitches be like niggas and men and whatever.
Speaker 2I don't give a fuck about that word you being a real nigga. You know what I'm saying like but but if you walk through that grass and came in here, now let me and I still decided to fuck you, right? You gotta come on up off that, because I gotta pay somebody.
Speaker 1I'm with you. I'm with you now. I'm about to flip it for you. Nah, brandon, this that happened with me, but I ain't tripping about it Because I can cook myself. If you come in this bitch, you don't smell no motherfucking food aroma. You know I ain't eat today. Did you ask that I eat? Did you come in this bitch and say what you got? I'm going to bring some groceries over here. See, that's the problem. I get A female say what you, saying that I'm 110% agreeance with you. But when I flipped the coin yeah, did you come in this bitch and put some on this motherfucking pot? Got me together, you know, did you see if I had to eat?
Speaker 1Did and what are you?
Speaker 2doing for me. You saying you do everything. No, I ain't saying nothing, we just dating. The same way, you feel like we just dating.
Speaker 1Just saying we used to feel you was dating. You can come in this bitch. You think you come in this bitch. We gonna lay up and fuck, but you ain't got to do nothing but just fuck your pussy. Is that much more?
Speaker 2Yeah, oh, no, no, but them is the type of what I'm saying. Is them the type of bitches? When I said that we realize the type of niggas they is, that's when a nigga's supposed to be like, okay, this bitch ain't, especially if you say something, if, but you knew I was coming over here today.
Speaker 1I'm going to tell you this is why the game diluted, because this is the side I'm saying. With the game diluted, it has come to the point that I said a woman can want women, math, women, math, don't math. You want the perks of a man being a man, but you be a woman when you want to be one.
Speaker 2And it's hold on, let me finish.
Speaker 1I'm with you, it's more Bad bitches Out here in these world, in these streets, than good bitches.
Speaker 2And guess what? And it's so crazy? Because the niggas Fuck with the no good bitches. Because let me tell you, I'm telling you why I'm not that type of bitch. My nigga, I know this nigga Got bitches. You hear me?
Gender Dynamics in Dating and Relationships
Speaker 1You know the reason why it's like that. I'm going back to Again. You keep going back to. A woman can come in this motherfucking and you. I can't shame a woman for not cooking for me. That's almost damn near impossible. So what nigga? Yeah, Like here. It is Prime example. You ain't never heard a nigga say this. You ain't going to get the full of me till you married. Think about that. That's your fault, but how many?
Speaker 1times do you hear a woman say that's your fault, cause I say that, bitch that, bitch you ain't getting the full of me until you get, until you be a right, good woman, until we marry. And what missy I with you what I'm telling, the reason why it's not the norm for a nigga to do it?
Speaker 2because they gained him in the loot a woman can come in and I say woman.
Speaker 1I say so, you are, you are correct, that's y'all thought though that y'all so horn boy I'm listening you going right back to what my man said. That's the thing. So a nigga so horny that he say, fuck it, right, I'm gonna go and take the short end of the stick just to get this pussy. And now guess what you done, done. You done made her feel like her pussy is on a pedestal on gold. I can't fuck with no nigga unless they doing for even if we just date.
Speaker 2That's the part where I tell you I think we lose each other at. I get what you saying, that nigga's watered again. Now I want you to know that it doesn't make us think every nigga is like that. That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 1I'm with you miss you already. The woman, the women are. You're from your cloth. It's women out here.
Speaker 2I'm telling you listen, my inbox is full. I keep trying to tell you that this one we should. I don't be going off my group of girls because I know my group of girls is some cut from a different cloth. All right, we'll fuck your home boy and I don't give a fuck. Go out to dinner on a double date with y'all. I get that. But I'm talking about the women that talk to me in my inbox and the what the word? I'm sorry, ladies, I love y'all but the, the lame bitches, the, not the bitches like me.
Speaker 2We know that it's niggas that think like that, like that they don't got no game or whatever the case is. They just want to pay. But we also know that every nigga ain't like that. It's niggas that get fucked up and think that every bitch like that. So just because a nigga can come at me and be like misty, I got five thousand, let's fuck. You can't come at courtney like that and she, in the same fucking circle with me, courtney, gonna look at a nigga that cutting her like that and be like what nigga? She'll probably never talk to you again. I'm not gonna get mad because I'm a motherfucking nigga myself. You feel me. I'm gonna be like nigga you feel. But okay, and I didn't mean I'm a nigga. I know y'all hate when they say that, but I'm just saying no, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1You're not thinking, we don't think like that.
Speaker 2That's the only reason. I just don't want you to think that that that's not. I don't think that's why the game is diluted as far as that part, because we know a trick and we know a chatty motherfucker and we know okay, bitch, now when he come, what I was about to tell you was the nigga I'm fucking with now. Right, I don't even know if he got, I don't know if it's him and his girlfriend together, but I know it's me and other bitches. You hear what I'm saying? I don't. I call him every day to make sure he ate. I don't even cook every day, but did you eat? Because, guess why? I can't be like the rest of them bitches, because this is a real nigga. You feel me? Now, if everybody else don't see it, I see it not, missy, I'm gonna stop you there.
Speaker 1Yo got the game and then get it diluted on that part. You need to get the game to look. It's females that sit up in this bitch and I'm being honest with you, they feel like their presence is enough. Well, I, I don't it's feet, it's a, it's a army of them out there that feel like their presence is enough.
Speaker 2Are they single? I'm sure they are.
Speaker 1Some of them don't be, cause they find the right type of simp. That's crazy, because this is why I'm going back to it again. I didn't, I didn't. I have been talking to females. Wait, what's a simp? A simp is a motherfucking man Like I. Ain't going to go all the way into it, but the sentence is right. You know that what you're doing with this woman, she's running over you, but you don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2Okay.
Game in Relationships and Finances
Speaker 1That's the best way to sum it up. You know she's running over you, but you don't give a fuck. I done been talking to females. I am not lying to you. This is the illest shit ever and I done seen this on Four weeks in. And you're asking me To pay for your nails and hair.
Speaker 2Sometimes Do you know that be a test? My dad always told me this Just cause I put you to the test Don't mean I want you to pass. But when I do that to a nigga it's because I ain't gonna even lie to you. I do it bluntly Soon. As you ask me for some pussy or a hint that you trying to fuck, I be like my rent due. And then when they be like damn why you gotta, damn why you gotta cut into me about some pussy and I'm not knocking it.
Speaker 1This is my thing is shots, uh, pops. This is like again.
Speaker 2That's like me sitting down in a motherfucking class and the first week you giving me finals exactly, but I I you know what I feel like y'all, y'all can laugh, but I'm dead ass serious. I'll tell you what it is. It's just what smoky mama said you have no, no game. That's it. They have no game, listen. And it's crazy, because that's all this is. I hate when people say I'm tired of playing the game. Guess what it's a game.
Speaker 2It's a game all the way up until marriage. Even when you get into marriage. It's a game, it's just another level. It's now we got to keep each other happy.
Speaker 1I'm giving Anytime you just said that, missy, would you ever hear me say yes? You never hear me debate that?
Speaker 2It is a game? No, it is.
Speaker 1That's why I say you play hoop. It's certain motherfuckers that come and play basketball that fuck up the game. You don't have a love for it. You don't have a passion for it. You're not working on fundamentals. You're diluting the game. When a nigga money with a regular female Get to know her, you're setting the expectation up that she's feeling like yeah, nigga, my presence, me existing alone, demands some type of financial compensation. And when I look at you like that, I said my daughter, don't walk around the motherfucking house and just feel like she's going. This is honest truth. My, my second oldest, shout out to my baby girl, madison. She works at Dairy Queen. Now I'm going to tell you what she just hit me with. This is her move and I ain't mad at her. Dad, can you cash out me $135 to get my hair done? I'm going to pay you back tomorrow.
Speaker 2You smiling.
Speaker 1I knew I wasn't getting paid. You get what I'm saying. That was a small amount. I didn't know I wasn't getting paid, but this is what she would do. Now she done that, even if she need to get something else done. She gonna wait a little bit, she gonna strike out as long as she can to get something done and then she gonna come back. And she could come right back and ask me I ain't gonna trip no-transcript, he'd be like, all right, and I'll go get it.
Speaker 2And then he I'll be like, get the money. I'll be like dad, I got that 500 back, but you know, next week I'm going to just need to borrow $250.
Speaker 1Just keep it, Just keep it. You feel me he's going to say just keep it. He be like just keep it Just keep it Okay, but can I?
Speaker 2still get the $250 next week. Yeah, he's going to say, come on.
Speaker 1The reason why I use that if my daughter know how to be a little bit smoother financing with it how the fuck do I look like a nothing and you gonna come straight into me three weeks in talking about get your nail hair done. Nigga, did you offer me anything?
Speaker 2what did you offer me in three weeks? But your presence, I feel like the game is. I do feel like the game is fucked up, but I just don't. I can't pinpoint why, but I think it's because, first of all, I think the whole confusion with the 50 50 thing and I think the roles is confused. I think it's a lot dealing with relationships, especially in a black community, but I do think that people need to just you got to know who you dealing with. Cause, like I tell you, when people do me like when, when I do that to a nigga, when you on this phone hinting about or he might be like what'd you? I should come over there and chill with you. Why should you come to my house and chill with me instead of coming picking me up and taking me to a day? So when you say that, that's when I say something like you know you can't come over here.
Speaker 2My toes and my nails ain't done.
Speaker 1You know what happened. You done ran into a lot of niggas that day. What they done ran into a lot of niggas. That what.
Speaker 2They trying to creep over there and get some pussy. Nah, this is me.
Speaker 1When I say, come over, just and kick it with you. I really didn't want to be around nobody, I just really want to kick it. I won't come over from the ass. I done this many times. I just want to come kick it with you.
Speaker 2Let's vibe, we can sit in the parking lot in your driveway and just kick it. Now do you be trying to tell me I'm going to tell, be in the car, I'm gonna keep it in the car. Now we're in the car smoking. Why you? Why you got to put your hand on my thigh, really high up by my coochie. Why?
Speaker 1there you go.
Speaker 2You know you're hinting at you, you know what I'm saying like don't do niggas, don't have no game I just and even if you do want to fuck, you can't do it better than that. You ain't, you can't like misty.
Speaker 1I'm going back to what my man said. That's. Are we going back to what my man said? That's what delusion come in at. You don't have conversation. So your shortcut is now bullshit. That's what deludes. That's what deludes. I'm going to use cocaine Back in 80s. When you see the motherfuckers in 80s, they looked like they was having a hell of a time, didn't they? Because it was pure, it was uncut. As time went through, they started figuring out how to dilute it. They died and all that type of yeah, it's shortcuts, niggas. That's a shortcut to use money on an average woman. He said a square, but that's what I mean an average woman. To use money on an average woman to get in her draws. You don't have no game. You diluting the shit out of it. That, no, that shit is the oldest profession in the world. Is what Hoeing?
Speaker 2Shout out to us.
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying? I'm just playing, I ain't mad at a hoe.
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3I ain't mad at a hoe either. I ain't never gonna be mad at her.
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 2And I ain't mad at a trick Bitch here go your money, leave me alone.
Speaker 1Go get your money girl, I'm not a hoe, because what you just said now you did from what you said.
Speaker 2but if I came to you right now, me and my dogs, and talked about this before, I want to be on the podcast with all niggas so bad because I'm ready to tear their ass up, because they think I'm ready I'm gonna get one done.
Speaker 1I'm gonna get, I'm gonna set this up very soon and I'll sit up in that bitch and it's female. You cut that bitch and like man listen, sorry, man, I got 600 for that pussy right now. What's up? Why are you cutting it to me like that? I done seen this. Why are you cutting? To me like that, so what you want, the other people around no okay, no, but this what you want?
Speaker 1you want me to, because now you feel like an actual prostitute. No, you're feeling this different now. If I play with you and hey, can I come over? You know, you say you need your bills paid, can I come over and slide through?
Speaker 2you say you want a bill.
Speaker 1It don't feel like a hold on board.
Speaker 2No, but the. Because the first response Was the overplay for an underplay. I had to do that. I couldn't just be like, yeah, we out. I had to be like why you Rob.
Speaker 1That's the point I'm making. I wasn't mad, for real.
Speaker 2I just wanted to play a little, god damn.
Speaker 1Can I so? Instead that's the delusion Just come in that bitch and say, hey, you know what? Nigga 600 for this pussy, let's go.
Speaker 2Listen and this is.
Speaker 1This is the truth. I'ma say this right now and get out of here, cause Misty be giving game To females and niggas All the time.
Speaker 2And I'm giving.
Speaker 1I'm giving game to females. Y'all will not believe this or not. A lot of more niggas Will if you came straight on them from the straight whole move. This is what's going down. Nigga 600, come fuck. I'm telling you what I know is the truth, because what Missy just said is what's going to happen. I got a bitch, I got bitches I'm fucking with, I got stalkers, whatever it is. This allows me to go say okay, where I need this is my time block 10 pm to 12 am. I gotta be back to the crib. Come in this bitch. We fuck. You don't tell nobody because a hoe ain't gonna go on Facebook and be like I was fucking robbed. A real whore. Shit, just a profession. Misty fucking is a property manager. I drive buses. I'm a youth specialist, I mean.
Speaker 2Oh, just that for the people that thought hoeing was my first job. I'm a property manager.
Speaker 1So I'm saying that to say this this is the truth. Do you not go on that bitch and tell her, misty, not come in here and tell you she evicted. She's not on Facebook telling about who was late on rent, who credit score it is, who on government system, who got aid. You get what I'm saying Misty, a whore, a real whore ain't going on Facebook saying I just fucked such and such. I am no, that's because I ain't no real hoe, though, so don't delude it. So when you go and tell my boy you give him Not like, yeah, give me $600. He ain't gonna be Telling niggas at you, cause he ain't gonna Feel comfortable Telling niggas what I paid $600.
Speaker 2Exactly, ladies. My cue to you is Don't be worried About whether they Pay you or not, because they pay. I'm not knocking nobody. They get paid for their sexual activity, do you? Don't let these niggas fuck you for friendly you with no wet ass Fuck the bullshit.
Speaker 1That's why I said what I said.
Speaker 2And men go ahead and say what the fuck you want. Quit acting like you. Ain't no trick, baby, it's all good.
Speaker 1That's the thing, if you're going to trick, man keep it.
Speaker 2It ain't trick disguise that shit nigga, and that's that what you've been bumping miss. Um, I actually been. I'm back on louis ray. Man, god damn, I've been on louis ray. I've been on the baby and skiller. He's been going crazy, you feel me, and I've been on skilling for nine, they going crazy.
Speaker 1So it's been a good I see motherfuckers been fucking with dog, listen, let me just say this.
Speaker 2I've been everywhere because they've been dropping some bangers for the summer, because glow just killed the game. You feel me it's not outside, that's that shit, you know.
Speaker 1You know who I've been saying, really been getting off. Oh girl, uh, sexy red she's sexy red been getting off it's been a good it's gonna be a good summer, ladies.
Speaker 2Megan then sold out her tours.
Speaker 1It's gonna be, you know I've said before, females been getting off, and then I'm gonna say this while I've been, I was at my dog crib and I was. We was barbecuing Over Memorial Day and I gave this question. I wanted to. We talked about it On here before and I just brought the question. That's what I've been listening to TP2 and Confess.
Speaker 2Oh.
Speaker 1God, that's what I've been on. Oh God, shit been hitting. That's timeless music, so where can they find you at just missed?
Speaker 2um. They can find me on all social media platforms. Um just missed dj us mystie.
Speaker 1Or you can just search the government mystie summers and you can catch bobby frost media on all social medias. Tap and run them, numbers up. Trination, tap in, y'all can tell me what I need to do more of, because y'all be polite with me. Y'all ain't got to be polite, nigga. I need you to do this, nigga. I need this. Nigga, we need more guests. Whatever it is you want to say, let me know, I'm down with it and we out.
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