810 Day: "Where the Sirens Don't Sing"

After a long-awaited return, Bobby Frost and New Co-Host Shake dive into a raw, unfiltered conversation about the recent tragedy at Flint's 810 Day celebration. What should have been a day of community pride turned deadly when a young girl was shot and killed, raising serious questions about security, policing, and systemic priorities in urban environments.

The duo explores the stark contrast in police presence between events catering to different demographics, with Shake delivering a powerful statement: "You are not valued." They break down how authorities protect certain gatherings while seemingly abandoning others to potential violence. This protection disparity isn't accidental but reflects deeper societal values about which communities deserve safety resources.

Music emerges as a fascinating thread throughout the conversation, with both hosts noting how different musical environments foster different behaviors. From venues playing soul classics to spots featuring aggressive contemporary rap, they observe that the soundtrack shapes the energy and potential for conflict. Meanwhile, their discussion on parenting reveals how the small age gap between many young parents and their children creates relationships more akin to friendship than authority, making discipline nearly impossible when "you're rocking the same lingo, the same music."

Perhaps most compelling is their examination of Flint's educational collapse and ongoing gentrification. School closures have eliminated pathways for youth, while allowing violence in certain areas serves larger redevelopment agendas. "They got the money to rebuild the city from trying to eliminate you," Shake explains, connecting water crisis funding to demographic displacement plans.

Despite these challenges, Bobby and Shake emphasize personal accountability and mental fortitude. As Shake puts it: "On an everyday basis, man, you just gotta wake up and try to make the best decisions because one wrong decision will have you in some shit you really can't get out of."

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Transcript

Welcome Back After Hiatus

Bobby Frost 0:00

Yo, yo yo, it's your boy, bobby Frost. And Bobby Frost Media presents Tri-Parency with my dog, shake.

Shake 0:06

What up doe? What up doe? What up doe?

Bobby Frost 0:08

two manning in it. It's been a while We've been on a hiatus and we got to get still situated. You know what I'm saying All that and people have been asking me. I appreciate that too. A lot of people have been asking me, man, for the past year going past, like when on past, like when you coming up with episode, when you coming on episode, and, um, the biggest thing I can say that you know, I tell everybody else, I'm telling the viewers that's here and now is getting a team, building a team. The infrastructure for a team is tough. It ain't easy. It ain't easy.

Bobby Frost 0:35

So right now, me and my dog shaki, but we definitely gonna have a third person for y'all sooner than later. You feel me. But how y'all been doing man, life been lifing for everybody, man. You know I'm saying I've been missing y'all man because it's therapeutic. It's therapeutic man getting out here. You know I'm saying talking about stuff with society and the culture. It's therapeutic, man. And I've got my dog shake with me. This is my sandbox. You feel me? What up though? Sandbox, sandbox man. So what you been on Shake man.

Shake 1:06

Shit man, chilling man. You know, trying to stay out the way. You know living in Flint, michigan, is an obstacle yeah, you feel me An extreme one and you have to be extremely, you know equipped to deal with this type of environment. You know, everybody ain't going to make it equipped to deal with this type of environment.

The 8-10 Day Tragedy

Bobby Frost 1:25

You know, everybody ain't going to make it. That's the real. That's the real man Speaking of that man kicking it off, I wanted to kick off the beginning of June, then I wanted to do Juneteenth, then it was July and I'm like man, instead of trying to get everything lined up perfectly, hey man, I'm just shooting off. Man, we'll get that all done. We'll get it done. But man, speaking of that man, you know I'm going to get straight into it. You know what I'm saying.

Bobby Frost 1:47

First episode back to topic 8-10 day. Man, like that's crazy how that went down. For those who are outside of Flint, michigan understand, 8-10 day is the Flint day. You know that's our area code 810. That's our area code 810. So 810 Day it's been going on for a while and this is to celebrate Flint, everything with Flint cultures, to the icons, the legends, the legacy, and for the most part, 810 Day be great.

Bobby Frost 2:19

But we had a tragedy that just passed with this one. I just passed, and you know you see a lot of stuff on social media and I try not to talk on social media as much. You know, if I got something to say, I'm going to come say it on a podcast. But you know, this one really made me say like, yeah, just get lining stuff up, just go when it's good to talk about it. And it was sad what happened. You know I'm saying a little girl. You know she got I ain't gonna say her name, just to be saying it because I don't have to ask her family for that. That's how I am with it. Anyways, she got shot and killed and it's crazy how that whole thing went down. But I'm more with the context, the whole context of what went down, with that. It's crazy that to have a event like that and not have, in my opinion, because I was down there earlier that day I went down I think 8-10 started at like 10 o'clock and then it was going to go all day.

Bobby Frost 3:15

I guess the cap of it was the concert at the Capitol Theater with the Dayton family, 8-ball MJG. I want to say I want to say Gundry Zeke was on the bill. I think Kenny might have been on the bill. They had a lot of artists you know flint artists, you know what I'm saying. I think Dayton family and Top Authority was there. I want to say Dayton family and 8-Ball MJG co-headlined it. So that was the cat for it, and it's just strange to me. This is my opinion. The police presence that I seen downtown for the drop fest was a day before, but that's a different.

Shake 3:56

Ethnicity.

Police Presence and Event Security

Bobby Frost 3:56

Yeah, of people. You feel me and I come out and say you know, it was more Caucasians, more white down there. It went a lot of black and I'm from both sides of the coin. You feel me Shaq, like both sides of the coin and I'm going to let you expand on it real quick. Like the Drop Fest, the energy for the Drop Fest is going to be different than the energy that was on 810.

Bobby Frost 4:16

And what I mean by that and I don't want to sound like an old head because I love hip hop you ain't going gonna find too many people walking God's green earth that's more into music than I am, seriously like that's a hill I die on. But I understand the different energy, that different music. You get what I'm saying. I don't know too many people getting buck wild and crazy off. Let's say, uh, louis Armstrong, sachimo, you feel what I'm saying. Like that's not something you're gonna put on to go get you know, know that type of energy on. I don't see too many people listening to Whitney Houston and going to do something wild. You get what I'm saying Not saying people don't, because I'm cracking a joke, but it's true, back in the 80s you know what I'm saying before hip-hop hit, when they was going to their little gang things and you know what I'm saying they wasn't using a lot of guns, knives and stuff like that 70s, 60s.

Bobby Frost 5:04

Think about what music they had to be listening to to get ready for that. Wasn't no rap, you feel me? So you listen to some blues, or you know pop, rock and roll you know what I'm saying or some Motown. So imagine that, though back in the day, man, you didn't hear to listen to the temptation getting ready to get into it with another rival crew or gang.

Bobby Frost 5:24

you know what I'm saying exactly and I think that's the reason why it wasn't violent, as now too, though you know, because I said, music has a lot to do with it. I watched that movie sinners. You feel me, I know how many y'all watch center, but now it's not spoiling anything. But you see how they was talking about how music affects you, how music can talk to your ancestors, and things like that, and I I go as far as, like I kind of believe that too, cause music changed you, like I done been in bad moods and music changed my music mood. You feel me, I didn't want to be in a worse or mood or more violent mood. I put that certain type of music on. You get what I'm saying.

Bobby Frost 6:03

So I think both played a part of it. You know, I think not having enough police presence down there played a part, and I definitely think, like the music was playing, because I remember I was just down there on Juneteenth, the music that I was hearing on June, and then nothing popped off. On Juneteenth I was down there the whole day, my kids was down there and everything. Juneteenth, the music that was getting played for Juneteenth was completely different than the music that was getting played for A-10 day, and I ain't see a heavy police presence on Juneteenth either. They was down there but it wasn't heavy, and I say that to say this, I'm about to pass the shake Black to the Bricks. I think starts today, don't it?

Bobby Frost 6:44

Yep Started yesterday, oh, yesterday, and I bet when you check the police presence it's going to be heavy police presence, but on the other flip side of it, you're not going to hear that type of music getting played either. It's a different type of energy, but I'm going to pass it to you, bro.

Shake 7:00

Music play a role in it, but ethnicity plays the main role in it. Like period, I'm fortunate enough to be able to travel. You know, do things like that. I know everybody isn't, you know. I hope no one feels any way about that. It is what it is. I would strongly recommend that people you know hey, man, y'all spend money on going to the club every weekend around here Take that same money and do something, you know, productive with it. You know shit, go to a national park, go up north somewhere. But I know we don't do that type of stuff. We like to go to Detroit and those type of things.

Shake 7:41

So the environment that you allow yourself to be in, sad to say, it is the problem. Like when it comes to back to the bricks, black people don't understand. One thing that black people need to understand is this you are not valued. You are not valued. Yeah, you're not valued like people like huh, what? No, you're not valued.

Shake 8:18

Like I go to places. I see how they protect other ethnicities when it comes to events and gatherings and things like that. They protect them to the max because those people pay taxes and those people have jobs and those people have families and they live in certain area codes that's deemed more valuable than yours, and it's just that simple. So, when it comes to being in Flint and doing events in Flint, you don't think the, the government entities, know what ethnicities and area codes are going to be in these areas. So, for example, just like you just said, what is it called Juneteenth? No, not Juneteenth, the one before Dropfest, dropfest.

Shake 8:57

Yeah, Y'all don't understand that. These government entities and these, your people, bro, when it comes to events, they know beforehand who was coming, the type of people, where they're coming from. So if you're coming to flint and you're from the outside community, guess what? You think the, you think the flint city councilman go allow something to happen to any of those people that's going to, that's coming into Flint to, um, you know, spend their money in Flint? No, they're not. They're going to keep those people as safe as possible. But when it's an event for you and you're from the city, it's nowhere near the same energy towards you because, whether you want to believe it or not, every time in this event for you in your city, they're taking this opportunity as a killing field. That's deep Killing field. It is what it is Like right now when you go down, down, down back to the bricks. Whatever right, you're going to see metal barricades everywhere.

Bobby Frost 10:01

That right. Let me interject right there. What you just said said because I was talking to one of my partners about that too and I couldn't understand until, like where is the barricades and stuff like that? Like it's wide open, Like it was thrown together, not?

Shake 10:14

planned. You knew. You knew 8-1-0 day was been coming, Like the other shit was coming. Juneteenth was coming. Fourth of July was coming. Did you see?

Bobby Frost 10:29

the Fourth of July presence. I didn't get down there so I can't even say so the Fourth of July presence.

Shake 10:34

They had the whole shit downtown all the way to Kettering on L's. Bro, I'm talking about police. Every inch of that bitch, Do something.

Bobby Frost 10:44

Yeah.

Music's Influence on Behavior

Shake 10:45

I'm talking about every inch, bro. I'm talking about all every inch of that bitch. Do something. I'm talking about every inch, bro. I'm talking about all the way to Kettering bro. It was literally police controlling traffic at Karana and Court at the split. You understand?

Bobby Frost 10:57

what I'm saying.

Shake 10:58

Controlling traffic, bro. They started there and it went all the way, bro, to the other end of downtown bro yeah, that's correct. Door, highway type shit. You know what I'm saying, mott, you feel me? The whole, everything was what it was. The thing is this the 4th of July, they got everybody coming. So now, when everybody come, they gotta protect not everybody, but they need to have a presence there for the motherfuckers who be on bullshit not to be on bullshit.

Bobby Frost 11:30

Right right.

Shake 11:31

Period, Because we got too many valuable people in the audience can allow none of these ignorant-ass niggas to do nothing to them. But we go make it where you ignorant-ass niggas can do something to y'allself and that's just be it. Like, for example, we're talking about Juneteenth but just a week prior to this, like 18 people were shot.

Bobby Frost 11:52

Yeah, that's crazy. You understand what I'm saying that right there, bro, is what was crazy to me, and this is what I'm thinking about right now. And this is what I'm saying, like you know, even though, knowing me, since the sandbox, I always try to look at the whole forest, not just a couple trees. When I'm seeing this leading up to it, I'm like, wait a minute, that mean it got to be some tension in the streets in the city.

Shake 12:15

if 17, 18 people get shot in one night that was like a week ago, two weeks ago I'm like gotta still be tension in it and there was no police person yeah, I'm like that's crazy not to have that there so just growing up in the streets and shit, like that club, and I always used to say this I say, man going to the palm tree, you know clio road days, you like, you know there'd be shit going down, but the police ain't never there. Like why the police? You understand I'm saying you go to other places, sit, get out, say you go to Detroit, you feel me Certain areas, you go to Police outside the club, yeah, chilling, park, chilling. You go out of town, like bro, I've been out of town, I went clubbing and shit. You go out of town, bro, because guess what, the police don't want shit to happen.

Shake 13:04

Right, so their presence is going to be there. But when you're in a city that's being gentrified I don't know if anyone's aware of that you know it's going to be instances where you'll be like, damn, how did this happen? Why did that happen? Because they want it to happen. They know it's going to happen. Okay, a certain club owner downtown or whatever, whoever the powers that be, don't like them. They don't like them. They're not going to pick the necessary things in place to protect their business.

Bobby Frost 13:35

Yeah, let them flourish.

Shake 13:36

So what they're going to do is allow the riffraff bullshit to affect their business, meaning violence, death and all that shit, but then that's going to be their reason, like yeah man Justify the close of doors. Yeah, man, you got the doors, man we got to close this shit, bro, you ain't Systematic, you know.

Bobby Frost 13:50

Systematic.

Bobby Frost 14:01

That's just how it go, you know, when it comes to us, like 810 said the last about three years to four years, I go out downtown. It's like 12, 13 bars down there. So I go to these bars. Ain't no security, they don't need the security. It's cool. Police has moved through here. It's cool, and that's why I go back to what I said. With, like the energy that's there too, it'd be a different type of energy. Like I'm going to use soggy bottoms, for instance. This was about. I want to say this is right around St Patrick's day, right Now. I've been going to soggy bottoms for years. You feel me.

Bobby Frost 14:34

I'm in there chilling and I look up and I see I'm chilling and I bump into a lady. I know another lady. I know a couple people. I know. You know what I'm saying. I look up and I see young cats coming in. They got the skis on. They ain't got them over their face, but you can see it around their neck. You know I can. You know the eye for it. You know I'm looking like the fuck and I always crack the joke. I done cracked it on other podcast episodes where I said, when I see them, tight ass jeans, uh, they were marries and all that shit on and I see that, yeah, it's time for me to get the fuck up out of here. And I seen them come in there. They get first. It was about six young females walked in there and I'm no, not to no females, but I'm watching what they want. I ain't seen a hill on them, one of their feet. It's all flip-flops. You know, the flip-flops are little bear ones, or fur ones, they call it.

Shake 15:28

That's a sign of poverty people you feel me, no bullshit.

Bobby Frost 15:32

So when I looked up and looked, you feel me, there's now no funny shit. About 10 minutes later you see the young, the yans, come in to get out of here. Before I get out out of here I could tell they left why. That's why I go back to music. The vibe wasn't there. They're like I can't, you feel me, this ain't the vibe for me. They get up out of there. Exactly, you feel me, and that's why I go back to what I said with the music. I could tell the vibe. I say this. I hope don't nobody get offended because I'm not saying it in that type of a way. I'm just stating the facts. I got like a 12-bar rotation right. I go to Hamlin Pub on Irish. They just made that joint probably like a year ago, nice, I think it's like a chain joint.

Shake 16:17

They got one there.

Bobby Frost 16:19

They got like five, six locations in Michigan, you feel me Nice as fuck, but again the vibe is going to be different. I go to Puzzlers, I go to Kickers, I go to Sharkies. I go to them all on that's Center Road in Bristol for Puzzlers and Sharkies, kickers, right when you get into Grand Blanc you catch me at Scooters. It's a spot out in Clio. I'm giving y'all games too, because these are my spots. I don't be trying to duck dog, just like going to variety. Uh, what's the spot I want to say? It's called row house, but it's in clio. I go there. I go to row house, out to my cousin tess and dean row house. You know, in pasadena they don't have no big security presence. One guy be at the door, ain't, ain't no issue. But listen to the music getting played. You feel me? I ain't never heard a problem at Rojas. You feel what I'm saying? I go there, spuds, on Wednesday. Shout out to Spuds. Naraya, that's my girl, you know I go to Spuds. They really don't have security. I seen a couple of females fight. But on Wednesdays and it's a different vibe of music. You feel me? You in there, listening to you, might hear some Maxwell, some Tamir especially. Shout out to Nate too, dj Nate man. I think he, if I had to pick, he's my favorite DJ. I ain't gonna say the best. Let me not say that he's my favorite DJ because he pay variety. I'm hearing that you might hear some Mar. What I'm saying exactly. Um, what's dog name? October, london. You hear a different variety of music. You feel me. Even take music to west coast. I heard some corruption dog pound in there. Different stuff, you feel me? I already played ll in there before. You know what I'm saying. So it's a different variety. Now I know this much. When you bring a yn in there, they're not gonna be feeling that type of music, so they don't have an issue. Ain Ain't no security. I go there.

Parenting Issues and Age Gaps

Bobby Frost 18:05

I'm just naming some of the spots you know I frequent in. You know what I'm saying. I even give a shout out to Ray. I watched how he's changed the vibe for Prime, changed it, I think, 25 and up, the music getting played different. So I'm saying that to say this.

Bobby Frost 18:20

Then you have a couple spots I'm not even going to say the name of those spots that's around and where the YN's associated with, but you're going to hear a lot of no disrespect to these R&Cs. It's just the music, the vibe, the energy. You hear some sexy red, hear some cash dolls. You hear you know what I'm saying the local Detroit rappers, the Flint rappers, and what they rapping about. What they talking about? The Cardi B's and I'm talking about the old Cardi B, not the new one that type of music, what they rapping about. That energy, a YN feeling that I want to hear that. You know what I'm saying.

Bobby Frost 18:51

I'm putting this switch on your ass. You feel me? I'm dropping the windows out your shit. A female, so I'm fucking on some scamming ass, nigga, oh man. So you got to think. A female, so I'm fucking on some scamming ass, nigga, oh man, that vibe. So you got to think, if I go in that spot, ain't going to be no slow dancing, ain't going to be no.

Bobby Frost 19:10

Tamia Self, who's really going on like that? Niggas, motherfuckers and this bitch, high as hell on whatever drug or choice they on Liquor. Motherfuckers, frowned up waiting on a catcher. This might not even be an op. Let me say this it's not even an op, just a motherfucker. That they feel like they ain't they mans. Now, same thing with the females. You might see a chick get bottled or a nigga get bottled. You know what I'm saying. All that type of shit and that's the vibe go with it. That's one. I think you feel me One part of the equation and then the other side of it. I'm going to tap into this and I'm going to pass it back to you. Shake, I keep telling people this accountability.

Bobby Frost 19:51

No accountability at all you you, you as a not just a parent, as a family member, a friend of the family, part of the community. You know the old saying it takes a village to raise a kid. My grandmama, you know my grandmama and granddaddy, they helped raise you Exactly. If I would've walked out the house, if you would've walked in the house with a hoodie on, and it was 90 degrees when we was growing up- hey man, what the fuck wrong with you?

Bobby Frost 20:18

Yeah, what's going on, you alright. Yeah, something wrong it, you all right.

Shake 20:22

Yeah, something wrong it's hot as hell outside.

Bobby Frost 20:24

You know what I'm saying? It's hot as shit. It's 92 degrees, it's 88 degrees.

Shake 20:31

Anything over like 70, dog, a hoodie shouldn't be necessary. These new cats got to be in like the best shape in life because they don't even be sweating. They have that motherfucking on, bro. They don't even be sweating. They be like what up, bro.

Bobby Frost 20:42

And you know why they don't sweat. I told people this so I said I understand, you know everything. I do a lot of comparison. I said if you go to places like Saudi Arabia, certain spots in the Middle Eastern with high climate, what do they wear? A lot of clothes. It's the reason behind that, the scientific fact. It do keep them cool Colors and the clothes you put on, how you do it. You know now if you're not used to doing that shit. I got thrown a hoodie.

Shake 21:06

I'm sweating like a motherfucking hebrew slave right, they, they from a whole nother um geno cold. You think these niggas grew up 10 when they's kids wearing hoodies and shit yeah, they used to it, so they body and adjusted to it. But I always said, that's crazy.

Bobby Frost 21:21

Like that's the thing I'm saying. Like man, man, like, pat your kid down. I ain't being funny when I say that shit. You see this little nigga come out, this bitch with the hoodie on. Man, pat him down.

Shake 21:32

This is the issue, man. One of the biggest issues, bro, is parenting, bro, and you know, sad to say, it is what it is, bro. I ain't perfect, you ain't perfect, but it's certain shit. The people, the parents who, who own their kids, is just certain shit. We not allowing, you feel me, it's just what it is.

Shake 21:51

Like I was down there, I was down there with my kids you understand what I'm saying when I was down to 810, 810 day with my children, you know I was supposed to just just slide down there by myself, but you know, ending up, you know, old lady, like you should take them, I'm like all right, really fucked up, my whole, you know my whole groove, but it is what it is. So I didn't want to take them because I didn't want them to even see that environment, or even you know what I'm saying. But they got friends down there and all that. So I'm like all right, so I ended up taking them. You feel me, you know me myself. I'm paying attention to my children. I don't know about anybody else, but one of the things I'm paying attention to is that they're not paying attention to shit, average average adolescent.

Shake 22:38

You know what I'm saying. They just happy to be outside. They're not paying attention to nothing. And one of the things I noticed I only noticed a handful of parents with their children. The rest of them was down there by themselves without their parents. Yeah, more than likely not to knock any parents. The parent probably in Capitol in the concert and their kid's outside, yeah, which is they probably like that's cool. No, the fuck is not.

Bobby Frost 23:10

I'm with the parents, I'm with the parents and all the time, my I'm always with that. I'm always with that. You know what I'm saying. And, um, one of the things I'm gonna say, like you just said, bro, like when you look at our tailgate, right, exactly, I ain't never seen a problem at Northridge tailgate as long as it's been going on, never, knock on wood, no problem at the tailgate. But I will always say it's about tailgate. You see people, grandmothers there, grandfathers there, great uncles, uncles, great aunties, aunties, mamas, daddies, big cousin, little cousin, so it's a family affair. So cats have more respect not to do none. And that's why I said, even with that, like that shows what I'm talking about. And it don't be a bunch of polices. I will say there don't be a lot of polices. I will say there don't be a lot of police at the, you know, santero Gate. They be there Because you don't need them. That's the point I'm making.

Shake 24:01

You know what I'm saying, because when it comes to certain environments, bro, that you know, that's I'm with you. You don't need the police, bro. And but when it comes to the calls on who, where the police should be and where the police shouldn't be, you understand what I'm saying. Like, whoever these officials are that make these calls, but at the same time, let's let's not even talk about the police anymore, because we passed the police right you understand what I'm saying because I'm from this city.

Shake 24:37

I know what the problem is as a police officer. I'm from this city, I know what the problem is as a police officer. I'm like fuck these niggas, bro. I'm tired of these niggas. Right, right, man, let's clean these niggas out of here. So when it comes to things like, you have done things, we have done things to allow the system to discard us and not give a fuck about us man, you know what I'm saying you said a mouthful with that one but at the same time, the problem is education, bro.

Shake 25:11

Our issue right here now in flint, michigan, is edgy. It's education, bro. We don't. We don't have any. You know, I'm just finna give y'all some little information right here, just the people from our community like I know. You see it, but you probably have forgotten historical school closures in flint community schools. Several schools in flint has been permanently closed over the past decade. Flint central high School closed 2010 due to declining enrollment and high maintenance costs. Flint Northern School closed. School closed, ceased operation in 2013, briefly reopened as Northern Academy, then closed again in 2014. Flint Northwestern High School closed before the 2018-19 school season. The facility has pre-opened as Flint Junior High School in July 2018. Just think about those three major schools right there. So right there. That's your problem. Your kids have no high school to go to. All of them gone. You understand what I'm saying? Look this just fucked me up. Ongoing and upcoming closures. I'm not even thinking that there's more closures. How much fucking more can you close, goddamn?

Bobby Frost 26:40

The reason why they got to do it now and we're going to get into that on another episode, because that's a good topic. When you look up 20 years ago how many more Flint residents you had compared to now, you had to streamline it because it would look crazy to have to them it would. To me it wouldn't, but to them it would look crazy to have a school where now, instead of having 25 kids in the classroom, you only got 10. But that would help better having 10 to 25. But that's why I said that's a topic for another day, because that's on purpose too. You know what I'm saying. But I'm with you with the education and I've been saying this for the longest. Like I work for the county and detention center, right, exactly, I say this all the time because we had a lady that came in that put the new program in and she used to always ask me like hey, what do you think we can do to help these kids up? And I'm like the biggest thing is not really in here. It's only so much I can do here. You know, I only got the kid for these many months, many weeks, days, hours, whatever I said, you got to connect back to where you send them, because once they get out of you know GBRC, genshi Khan Juvenile Justice Center. Once they get out of there, then you go to whatever placement. If you go to a placement, whatever placement you go to, once you complete the placement you go back where Home, unless you go to independent living. And even with independent living, once you finish that out, where are you going to most likely go back Home? So we got to connect back to home and this one thing I suggested. I said, hey, we should. I don't know where you can get the funding from that's above my pay grade, but pass this along to the people that can. You should have where you start having more parenting classes there. This is a perfect spot. This is a $20 million building. Have parenting classes there, because people don't understand. That's one of the hardest things to learn how to do for a lot of people is parent. It's not an easy thing to do because every kid different, every parent different, every you know, from your skin color to your belief, to your whatever is different. So you have to figure that out. And a lot of parents what we were just talking about, I wouldn't. I use my baby. That's the problem too. I use my baby mama for this.

Bobby Frost 29:00

We talked about it the next day after 810 day, right Like I said, I went in there about 2 o'clock, left out at 5. I was at Spud's. I went and pulled up at my homeboy Q crib chilling. My baby mama hit me up. You know what I'm saying. She was like are you going down to 810? I'm like no, because she wanted me to take my daughter. I said I left so I ain't you know, I'll sit down there. She told me just like this she let her uh, I want to say I think it was her sister-in-law take her, take the kids down there. My daughter, her other daughter, and she was saying how something broke off then in the daytime, some people saying it was firecracker, but it was supposed to be shots.

Shake 29:34

That was in the daytime. I had seen some fights earlier, like after that shit happened next day. I'm looking, I'm like damn what if it was fighting earlier that?

Bobby Frost 29:40

day too. So you know, that's why she asked me was I go down there with Scott? Because I would have went down there with Scott. And I say that to say this what you just saying spending on your point. If I know, my kid wanted to go down to A10 today and I'm going with you and we're going to go early. This shit start at 10, we might get down there 11, 12. We can hang to 2 or 3. I even told her I said I would tell Sky the same thing. Hey, your friends ain't here. Well, tell them you're going to be downtown around 12 o'clock. See if they really your homegirls, they'll come down there and kick it with you then, because we ain't going to get out here at five or six o'clock. You feel what I'm saying? Nope, we're not doing that. We want to get away from the riffraff and that's the thing again where's the parents at?

Education Crisis in Flint

Bobby Frost 30:22

But I always say this with the parents. This is the difference. I seen you put a today. I seen on Joe post. You was talking about the parents and how they.

Bobby Frost 30:30

You know, and I say this all the time again the biggest thing I see, different with parents now than when I was younger, is the age, the age gap between the parent and the kid. If I'm only 15 years younger, I mean older than my kid we're in the same generation. People don't realize that Exactly we're in the same generation. I'm really like a brother or a sister to you. You feel me, but I was fortunate enough to get raised by my grandparents. My granddaddy was 50 years and four days older than me to the day when I came out. We're not in the same generation. He a boomer, I'm not a boomer, I'm not a baby boomer. We in two different generations. You feel me so, with that being said, the way he sees life, the stuff he's going to instill in me or try to instill in me, is going to be completely different.

Bobby Frost 31:26

If he was only 15 years younger than me, like my, my youngest uncle, you know what I'm saying. I want to say my youngest uncle got me by 20 years. We're close in age. That's not that far off. We listened to the same music. We're going to dress alike. I didn't dress like my granddad. You know what I'm saying Exactly. And when you have your kids that far off, when you got your kid, when you 25 years, you know gap between your kids. You're going to see in another generation. I'm not going to be dressing like you. We're not going to be listening to the same music. We might watch some movies together, but most of our stuff we like it's going to be completely different when you got parents that's rocking the same lingo, the same music.

Shake 31:59

ladies, the ladies, you know the fathers, you know fathers, we ain't even at, we ain't even here. So, thank god, thank, shout out to ones that is there. But anyways, yeah, the women, the women with daughters, like when I tell you, bro, I just spoke on this bottle a couple weeks ago, like I'm at myers grabbing some diapers for my baby, you feel me, see a nice young lady or whatever Beautiful. And then I look, I see her. I'm like, I'm like what the fuck? I'm like, is that her daughter or her homegirl? I'm not, I'm really having a hard time distinguishing them. But me, I'm like that's her daughter. And I look at her. I'm like what the fuck? Like that show why your daughter look like you. You can't even distinct, like literally, I had to like hold on, because that's man we do. You know, I'm checking them out. You feel me, I'm like that's her daughter yeah, you can't differentiate between the two.

Shake 33:00

Yeah, like her daughter looked like a home girl bro. Yeah, yeah, you understand, like basically she's promoting her daughter bro yeah, I said, bro again.

Bobby Frost 33:11

That's why I go back to what I said me working with youth.

Bobby Frost 33:14

I'm 37. I've been working with you since I was 20. That's what I've seen. A difference, like I always say this Now, when I go to school, I feel like a parent. See, I had my kids, a couple of my kids, when I was going to school. I mean teacher, parent conferences or assemblies, things like that. I didn't feel like I looked like a parent. When my grandmama and granddaddy came up, they looked like parents. Yes, I had a sprinkling with a couple of kids that parents didn't look like parents. But, like you never catch my grandma coming up to the school without a bra. You know what I'm saying.

Bobby Frost 33:51

I don't have this conversation with females before and it's the dumbest thing I can hear. You're going to sit up and tell me that you had to come up. You couldn't take an extra two or three minutes out even if it's 15, to go home and put on a bra. Put on a bra. You know what I'm saying.

Bobby Frost 34:08

People who smoke weed I'm not a weed smoker. All I'm saying is this right here, it's a different vibe. You're getting off when you walk past all these kids and you smell like weed. You telling the kids you smoke, you didn't have time to. You know, throw something on, it's the mindset. So people don't understand the little things that changes the mindset which, when your mindset change, you changing the culture. Now that's where it start, with the little things like that.

Bobby Frost 34:36

Yeah, don't come in here with no scarf on your head. You ain't got enough pride in yourself, in your family, your kid, to come in, go ahead and woomp, woomp, woomp. I understand, hey, it takes a lot, you know you're working hard to get up in here. And ladies I'm not knocking this at the ladies because I'll get to the brothers in a minute. I'm saying ladies because what Shaq just said, more times than not, in our community, the, the mama, is going to be in the household, dad not. So I'm just. That's why I'm starting there first.

Bobby Frost 35:05

Yeah, like you gotta. Yeah, don't come in here with that on. You got these leggings and yogas on and you see you got a body. Whatever, if you ain't got a body, you know little man's and nice friends or anybody you have, you know, and they, looking at you, put a t-shirt over your body. You know, I'm saying again, but I understand it too, because here we go. Like I said, if you had the kid at 15, 16, so imagine when the kid turned 10, fourth grader, fifth grader you're only 26. You're only 25. You're still young.

Shake 35:28

Exactly.

Bobby Frost 35:28

Get what I'm saying. So now think about where I'm coming with this. That's why I'm breaking it down like that. So it's 10. 10, you starting to get ready. You and your tweeners 10, 11, 12, about to become a teenager, you watching your moms come in here like this y'all kind of cool. Let's go fast forward. Three years later, four years later, your mama only now, 28, 27, 29. You're 14, 15. You becoming feeling like you're what you becoming into your manhood. Mama can't tell me too much like that because you've been a friend the whole time. You're not an authority figure. Not saying all kids disrespect their mom, but a lot of them do. I don't have that respect there because you're like a sibling. So now you got to think, because you just said Mom not worrying when little John, john, little poo, poo, whatever, little Tay Tay at, because she outdoing her, she's still trying to figure her life out, she's still trying to get you know out of her system. Find a man, like you said, she might be in the capital.

Shake 36:28

She's trying to get knocked down.

Bobby Frost 36:29

Yeah, that's what I'm saying, she might be in the capital, while little John John out there with this 30 rounder on him looking for something, hoping something, she the reason he got it. I'm going to go with this one. You know how many moms I know that I know or see come up to the center and they talking about how little John John, little Tay Tay, little, who, who, who, they got their house shot up. I would have broke my foot off in your ass to the point where I would have had a CPS case. You got my damn house shot up.

Shake 37:00

That's why one of the reasons when it comes to me and where I stay, like Since I moved out of granny crib, but 2015, 16.

Shake 37:15

The thing that was going on there, bro, I had to make some real decisions on to my the safety of my family right you feel me like, I'm like hold on, like this shit is not sustainable, this shit is not safe, this shit is like like one day you, as a parent, as a person, you have to wake up and be like you know what man? This shit ain't what it is Like. I can't have my kids growing up around this shit.

Bobby Frost 37:44

No.

Shake 37:44

They already had a small percentage of their life growing up around this shit, you understand.

Bobby Frost 37:48

For sure.

Shake 37:50

So I had to wake up one day and like man, you know what, man? I cannot allow my children to continue to be around these negative environments Period. And I made a move, bro, ended up shit. Made a move bro. End up moving out of flint bro, and that was the correct thing to do and I just stayed the next town over.

Bobby Frost 38:07

That's it that's all I mean. That's all it, bro. That's all I tell you.

Shake 38:11

That's all it took for me to move the town over, bro, and when I say, look, one of the things is this when it comes to my son, especially my son and my daughter as well. But we were standing in the hood and, when you know, his first, first first grade, he went to new standard. Second grade, he was basically online to go to new standard again, went to parent tension parent. I went to the orientation, the second orientation, right? Hey, anybody, I don't give a fuck how you feel about it, it is what it is. When I went in, bro, and I synced the um, just the quality of people, bro. I said fuck this bro, my son cannot go to this school. No more dog, like you said. The bonnets coming up to the school look at any type of way. It's three o'clock pm. Orientation for school. How the fuck you not ready? You understand? I'm saying you had all day to get ready, bro yeah period, man.

Shake 39:16

You know what I'm saying. So I made a decision, man, to move and pit my kids around different ethnicities, bro. You know it is what it is. You understand what I'm saying. I made a decision to pit my kid around white people, bro. And the result I have some negatives that I don't like, but at the same time, I have some positives that I love. You understand what I'm saying.

Bobby Frost 39:42

The pros all the way in the comments. You feel me?

Shake 39:44

Yeah, so time I have some positives that I love. You understand what I'm saying. The pros always in the comments. You feel me? Yeah, so one of the things is this that I love is this Okay, if my son were to continue to go to new standard right now, he will be going through all type of type of trauma that I went through as a kid Basically having to deal with a kid that he went to school with and played with in class first, second, third, fourth grade, sixth grade. Now that we in the middle school, high school, these niggas just got murdered. Yeah, not one, not two, not three, like 15 niggas that I know went to school with, just got murdered.

Bobby Frost 40:11

People don't and that's why what you're saying, bro, this is why I tell, that's why I work so well with the kids in the center. I tell people, I say what that does consciously and subconsciously to your mind when somebody you've been knowing majority of your life get killed, it makes you go into that mode, you in war mode. I keep telling people talk to a soldier, especially when I've been in infantry. Go talk to them. Maybe you want to talk to. Go talk to some of the old vets and tell them how their mind changed when it became wartime.

Shake 40:40

Nicholas um what changed when it became wartime? Nicholas, um what's that?

Shake 40:45

nicholas ivan um you ever heard of the reaper? Yeah, yeah, no. No, he's talking about. You know, I'm talking about the reaper because, like dog, like him, bro, he breaks it down, like he really lets you know if I got his book. You know what I'm saying. I'm reading it now. You feel me? Just to get the, basically to get the story on, like damn, what was going on in iraq and the g-AC. I'm interested in that type of stuff. You know what I'm saying. I didn't go to the army but shit, my homeboys.

Bobby Frost 41:07

We had a bunch of homies that did so.

Shake 41:09

I'm like damn, my niggas went to the army and like, and all of them that went to GWAC back bro and they like, damn, like we got fucked bro. You feel me, the shit they told us we was fighting for bro was not the shit we was fighting for bro. You know what I'm saying? Because there's several fucking saying we over there protecting opiate fields like what the fuck you protecting opiate fields for? Because your government is into selling drugs, but they don't.

Bobby Frost 41:40

Can't tell you that right and that's, that's what I Like. So you got to think what? How they've got? They got bread for wartime. So when wartime come in, your mindset is completely different. And our young kids, our young black males, all over America is in wartime. That's makes you feel like that.

Bobby Frost 42:04

If I just seen somebody I've been knowing since I've been in grade school and I'm in middle school or high school and they get killed, you best believe that now I'm thinking this could happen to me, not even just thinking you might get to the point where now you feeling like this A lot of this happened, even if you wasn't in the streets. That was my man. I want to go do something that somebody did to him. You just took a loved one from me. People don't understand the trauma and the psychological part about that. So now you have all these type of wartime, you're at a war field, you got all these type of war-minded kids running through the city. And now I'm going to go back to the other side, the dads. I see that too. I see so many dads come in the center. When they do come in there, it's a lot of them coming there. You can tell the kid don't got that dad respect.

The Gentrification Plan

Bobby Frost 42:42

But here you go. You're only 16 years older than me. You're only 15 years older than me. Where that? You know what I'm saying? It's a difference. You know what I'm saying, you? You dressing like me, you talking like me. We're in the same things, so consciously. That's why I said don't. I almost wanted to rename the podcast. Fuck. Wanted to rename the podcast. Fuck the exception, because we love bringing that devil advocate exception shit out. I'm talking about the average kid, so constantly I can't have the same type of respect level for you because we're into the same thing. That's what made your parent a parent. Exactly. We're in two different. That's what. Stay in the child's place. How can I tell you stay in the child's place? We're rocking the same shit. We're listening to the same music. Even our females look the same. Think about it. I'm not being funny when I say that shit In the 90s, bro.

Shake 43:29

that's why they say man 90s fine bro, because, like in the 90s bro, everybody was fine, but everybody looked different. You understand?

Bobby Frost 43:39

what I'm saying. Yeah, you knew the age difference.

Shake 43:41

Now it's like now everybody look like a fucking mannequin, bro. That's it, you knew the age difference. Basically like every chick you see got the same swoop, got the same eyelashes, got the same eyebrows.

Bobby Frost 43:56

The same, everything, man the same lips.

Shake 43:58

I don't know how the fuck they doing that. You know what I'm saying, what the fuck is like, it's the same everything, man, and that's it.

Bobby Frost 44:04

That's the point I'm making. Like when you have different age, them age gaps are different. You're not going to be like when we was growing up, girls wasn't dressed in the same way as the women was dressed, because it was different in the age gap.

Shake 44:26

But when you you're, look my mama. Mama passed away. I found out like damn how many women she um you know how much.

Shake 44:29

How many women, bro, she touched. You understand what I'm saying and realizing how much game that she gave them, that she didn't give me. You understand what I'm saying. So, when it comes to women, so imagine my mom, right, okay, she, our parents, you know. When it comes to women, so imagine my mom, right, okay, our parents. You know.

Shake 44:44

When it comes to things, especially mothers, bro, okay, you, a man, bro, you really on like you, really the odds against you. Because the shit. A mother is telling her daughter, yo, I ain't saying a dad not doing that, but a dad not doing that, a dad not telling his son like, hey, nigga, I got a dick on you, my nigga, that bitch long. When you put that bitch in the bitch, dig deep in her. She gonna love you forever. I'm not telling my son, no, shit like that, bro, right. But women are telling their daughters yeah, um, hey, that thing between you, hey, yeah, hey, you should never be broke. You know what you're going back into. You understand what I'm saying. So women are being taught to use their assets in a manipulative way.

Bobby Frost 45:33

You understand what I'm saying, you know what that is again what I just said, bro, wartime, that's survival mode. You're not thinking besides that. And that's the age gap, because that's what she's doing right now. A lot of these women that didn't have kids young. They're trying to figure it out, they're trying to survive. So in her mind, this is the way to make it happen. I'm going to teach you the tricks to the trade.

Bobby Frost 45:57

Yeah, the same thing. So you know that's that's the same thing. So that's the same thing, so that's the same thing. So you know, I'm gonna wrap it up, man and I. I hope they can get 8-10 day together because I like having something for the city for us, but they gotta.

Shake 46:17

I think it's over with.

Bobby Frost 46:18

I think it's gonna be set down for a minute, like this is it, like it's too.

Shake 46:22

look, this is what Bucco was just saying, bro, it's too much stuff that goes on downtown already. That's positive.

Bobby Frost 46:29

Yeah, we don't even need.

Shake 46:30

We don't even need this shit, we don't need these niggas, like niggas, don't really understand that the powers that be allow you to eliminate and you gave them food, you gave them fuel. It's like you go somewhere they ain't go like. Okay, we talk about the police. We know the police not going to be there for us, bro.

Bobby Frost 46:48

Yeah, so we got to.

Shake 46:49

Police is only there. Look, I'm going to tell you all this. The police is only there to protect their interests, and their interests is the citizens that have jobs that pay taxes bro. Is the citizens that have jobs that pay taxes, bro. If you don't have a job or if you don't pay taxes, bro, you are a liability to the system. They will do away with you. So, for example, 810 Day, the day before that, everybody that came to that event guess what they did, or guess what they do. They pay taxes, yeah.

Bobby Frost 47:23

Drop Fest was a whole different vibe 810 day.

Shake 47:27

Everybody that's down there, they don't pay taxes, you're not contributing.

Bobby Frost 47:33

That's how they're looking at it.

Shake 47:36

You're not contributing to the. You're not contributing to the pot.

Bobby Frost 47:37

And that's where I'm getting that to and that's how they looking at it. And we know it was a lot of people down there who do but that to it and that's how they looking at it. And we know it was a lot of people down there who do, but they getting overshadowed by the ones that don't. And I'm with you. I hope they could figure a way to bring it back and don't let the legacy of that be a little girl getting killed. But I'm with you, I don't think they do. But I'm going to say this and close it out what you just said, bro if we know that the actual law enforcement is not going to police it, guess what we need to do? Police it ourselves. And that means the same way. I use the comparison again with Northwest Tailgate. It's going to be a lot of more people family down there. So you know such and such ain't going to be doing that. I'm making sure you're not doing that and if you're going to be on that, keep your ass away.

Shake 48:17

This is Northwest, this is our home, like we can have that type of control over it. You feel me? We can stand up like nigga. You ain't. From here you go to Central, the fuck you want. You want some bullshit man. You don't get the fuck out of here. You know what I'm saying. But when you downtown an open environment for everyone, you know what I'm saying. No, I get it. You can't. We can police it, but more harder to police something. That's why I said it got to be the city.

Bobby Frost 48:42

It can't be just. Everybody got to come together on that one. Everybody got to have that pride. And if you're going to make 810 Day a big thing, everybody got to have that pride. To where? Now it's like how we look at North, people who don't get out the house at all will come for Northwestern Tailgate. That's a wildcat we got to have. That's the only way you're going. You're going to smother that out. If you don't, it's going to be what you said we just go, we giving them more fuel to shit more shit down and don't care about us. And that's why I said we gotta.

Shake 49:13

And this is one thing I'm going to say this All you niggas that don't pay taxes or don't got jobs, that went through the Flint water crisis, y'all the reason this city got that money, baby, and now this city is going to do away with you. They got you, they use you to get the bank. You a hoe, you a good-lid bitch that I fuck with. I don't really fuck with you, though. Now that I'm done with you, I'm done with they already got the cheese, bro. They got the money to rebuild the city from trying to eliminate you. Yeah, now the plan is this we're still the plan is still to eliminate you.

Shake 49:53

Yeah, I talked about that before, bro, all of the stuff that's coming into Flint like our park. Like BB did all the things BB did, bro, like BB did all the things BB did. Bro Bergston Martin whatever money that they was really pitting into, they was pitting into BB and Eric Mays the people who was going to make sure that money went to where it was going to go to are dead, and it's not by coincidence, buddy, if you think it's a coincidence. You just think these people just madly, just no, you a fucking fool. You understand what I'm saying. It's too much money. These people was in front of and had control over where it went to. I said that a long time ago, bro.

Bobby Frost 50:34

When you go, deal up all them pipes. That's the whole infrastructure of the city. You building basically a new city, almost Exactly. They're going to get niggas out the way. I've been said that, so now, you feel me Like?

Shake 50:44

my brother just said he go up. He like damn where all these white folks? White folks in the hood hooping, bro, on the court that we grew up on. Man Like y'all don't see that.

Music Recommendations and Closing

Bobby Frost 50:58

What's going on, goes around, comes around. Right, we wasn't always over there. Then we came over there. They wasn't always not there, it was there. Then they left. It's coming back, it's all with that. But, man, we're going to wrap it up. Man, what you been vibing to lately, man, what you been listening to, brody.

Shake 51:14

Man, honestly, I ain't going to cap, bro. I've been, you man, just you know, really been going through a lot of, you know, stress and trauma over these last couple months myself. You feel me so just really trying to, you know, have my mind war ready. You feel me, because this things that we go through on an everyday basis, bro, is bro like I understand. I'm not gonna sit here and like knock nobody. That's going through things, I understand, you know, but at the same time, like it's war.

Shake 51:51

When you going through what you're going through, bro, it's war, mental war. You feel me. So, on an everyday basis, man, you just gotta wake up and try to make the best decisions on an everyday basis, man, because one wrong decision will have you in some shit you really can't get out of. That's the word and that's where we need to start at. Man, just, mental capability, you know mental fortitude, you feel me being solid, you know being strong, but I know it's. You know, I know it's easier said than done. You know I'm not going to sit here and say like I'm perfect, but I know, on a daily basis, I wake up and try to make good decisions.

Bobby Frost 52:32

That's awesome. That's awesome.

Shake 52:34

My homeboy. He ain't perfect, you understand, but I know I can trust this guy to wake up every day and make the best decision for himself, his family, you understand what I'm saying? Like, seriously, bro, we need to make up and try to make better decisions like if you don't like, for example, financing is key. So if you don't got finance, you don't got a job or whatever. Get a duck fucking job, bro don't get one, man you feel me, start somewhere, like start somewhere, you gotta start somewhere.

Shake 53:04

You feel me, and that's really you know. That's basically you know, bro, I've been trying to, you know, keep my mind right bro, ain't nothing wrong with that, that's still.

Bobby Frost 53:12

That's still vibing if you off audiobooks. That's still vibing, bro but music though.

Shake 53:16

What I've been listening to on a music tip, same bro, I'm a currency bro. Look bro, I'm a currency. Larry june. You know what bro? I'm an underground, I'm a, I'm an independent type guy no, I mean I listen to independent guys bro man, that's where I was just going to it.

Shake 53:30

I don't really. Um, you know the powers that be music. I don't really fuck with it. If you assigned artists, you gotta you got a deal. I don't really fuck with you because you pushing the agenda ain't nothing, you, you know it is what it is. I just don't fuck with you. Everybody else can fuck with you, but I just don't.

Bobby Frost 53:49

Man. That's crazy that you said that, bro, because that's what I was getting to. The last two albums I've been listening to is Larry June and Cardo Got Wings Until the.

Shake 53:56

Night Comes, man Pusher them right now.

Bobby Frost 54:00

I've been checking them out.

Shake 54:02

When I tell you these cats bro and brought back some. I was a kid Flo bro Grinding nigga, but you gotta think how old it is them brothers pushing 50, dog.

Bobby Frost 54:11

Now I've been off them them. The currency just dropped 730. I've been off the. You know what I'm saying when the night comes To me. The best album I said this year so far is a freddo too alchemist and freddie gives went crazy on that joint and just like again. And that's why look, man, freddie, my nigga, I already know what you're about to go to with the currency situation you got it?

Shake 54:34

no, it ain't even that freddie man, he just man. I hate what he ain't been through over the years. I'm going to just say that you feel me Like Brody. You know I like Brody music, but like, when it comes to this shit, man, like we really do pay attention to those things, bro, when it comes to altercations and how they are handled and shit like that, yeah nah, that's the only thing.

Bobby Frost 54:59

I don't like about Fred I don't like about Fred, but I get where Fred be coming from with this situation. Fred, one of them, cats that's just not like. If he see, if he feel you on some BS, he gonna confront you about it Now, how to go at the confrontation, how to go at the confrontation, but he gonna confront you about it. You know what I'm saying. But, like I told cats, I said man, man, he be dropping none but classic. And I always say this, me and Dre. You say this all the time and I'm going to wrap it up. You have going back to A-10 Day Top Authority Dating Family.

Bobby Frost 55:31

Midwest guys who rap have a different type of flow like everyone else, and people are always like, if you listen to them, if you go listen to Twisted back in the day, you know what I'm saying. I can name different areas in the Midwest. It's a more we riding the beat, but it's high impact flow. Like you, you get what I'm saying and Freddie from Gary, in the end the same thing. I'm about to ride this beat, but it's gonna be. You can feel what I'm saying to you, compared to just some fluffs type shit. When you listen to Old Twister, you felt where he's coming from, like bro, every, every, yeah, he rolled that motherfucker, this nigga crazy. If you're gonna listen, yeah, if you listen to dating family, same thing. Rush like, yeah, you listen to dating family same thing. You hear bootleg on that motherfucker going. You, he riding the fuck out the beat, but you feeling what he's saying? Same way freddie gives.

Bobby Frost 56:17

I'll tell everybody, man, you're gonna check this out. Go check alfredo two out and you're gonna hear it. Like you just said, with the clips. With the clips it's like again, they're not conforming to what's going on. We're going with what. We go with what we would. They know it's a fan base out there for it and that's what I mean by the music. You ain't going to hear no clips down there at AT&T. You ain't going to be in here. I got the visuals coming, we in there thing, and I appreciate all the listeners. Y'all go out there and tap in. Man, we everywhere Apple podcast, amazon music, iheartradio, youtube, spotify, wherever you can get a podcast at go check us out. We there on all platforms and we out.