“The Rules at the Door”

Cold sidewalks, real porches, and full-size bars—that’s the Halloween we remember. We open with a walk through neighborhood nostalgia and ask what gets lost when trunk-or-treat replaces house-to-house. The safety panic? We unpack the data, ditch the razor-blade myths, and talk about what actually keeps kids safe: presence, pacing, and community.

From there we jump to downtown Flint, where a new sports bar launches with a strict age policy—25+ for women, 30+ for men. We explore the business case behind the door, from insurance realities to conflict patterns owners see long before cameras do. We don’t dodge the controversy. Media framing, racial undertones, and the politics of space all show up in the comment sections, and we call out the “underlying hate” that hides inside polite objections. Don’t like the rules? The market gives you options. But if you care about safer rooms and sustainable venues, policies have to be more than vibes.

Music threads it all together. No Limit vs Cash Money on Verzuz becomes a masterclass in preparation, sequencing, and brand. Catalogs matter, but cohesion wins. We break down what makes a set land, why some crews arrive locked in, and how curation beats clout every time. We shout the artists and producers who still build projects like experiences—and why that mindset should guide nightlife, neighborhoods, and headlines alike.

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Transcript

Halloween Stories And Neighborhood Vibes

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Yo yo yo, it's your boy Bobby Frost and Bobby Frost Miguel Presents. Try passing up with my dog shape. What up double, what up, dough, what up, dough? And we back, man, you know what I'm saying? What is it getting cold? Hawk out there biting, you know what I'm saying? Just got down with the trick-a-treat. Well, I ain't got no triple treatment. Are you taking your kids triple treating yesterday, brother?

SPEAKER_01 0:21

I'm gonna triple kid.

SPEAKER_02 0:30

I know you excited the mother. I mean, not you, but I know she I know you was excited for her being excited. I know she was bouncing around, man.

SPEAKER_01 0:38

At first, you know, I kid she was um, we was probably here with her and one of her little cousins to take pictures. And you know, my daughter are usually photogenic. She uh on some, you feel me? She just had to warm up. Once she warmed up, it was.

SPEAKER_02 0:54

Once she said everything was good, it's it's time to go, you feel me? It was a blast. Man, I always say that shit. It was it was different, man. Like I always say that shit like us growing in the hood, we didn't really do a lot of trick-or-treating because wasn't nobody in the neighborhood you can go get candy from like that. It was a couple people.

SPEAKER_01 1:07

So that's one of the, so that's one of the things I've I guess I've um, you know, um, just this year in our vicinity or whatever, it's been a lot of like stuff going on that businesses and churches and trunk and treats and stuff like that. And I'm like, what's going on? Like, so what? People ain't at houses no more. They like, nah. Like, so I was out in um Fenton yesterday. And one of the things I noticed, I'm like, dang, like, Fenton's still doing it, bro. Yeah. I'm seeing the people set up, the tables. I pull up and I say, Hey, but y'all, y'all set up to give her a trick-or-treating? She like, yeah. Like the whole list, the whole lake, bro. They I'm like, dang, and I went through other little areas, kids out and cold as a running around. I say, Man, this is where you gotta come, bro, if you want a real old school experience on trick-or-treating, bro.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

Uh-uh, I'm I'm you know what I'm saying. I ain't gonna spend too much time. We're gonna get into the meteor stuff, but you know what I'm saying? I don't like the trunk and treat. It it's it takes away, even if you go watch Disney movies or whatever movies you want to watch, there's no trunk and treat in no damn movies. You're going house to house, that's the Halloween, trick or treat. You know what I'm saying? You taking the whole spirit of Halloween out when you do that. Trunk or treat. And then they start, like you said, they started doing it before Halloween.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

We used to do it on Halloween. So that's what we had went to one just a couple, like, well, yeah, like today. Yeah, like the 29th or something like that. Yeah, it was. Bro, they've been doing it all. We had to basically park, start getting the line. Yeah, that's that's the line was long as heck.

SPEAKER_02 2:52

That's the whole chatty part about it, bro. Like, I keep it real. And it's these new age parents and all these other organizations and all that. Like, it's that's chatty, bro.

SPEAKER_01 3:01

Like, like, I ain't trying to sound ungrateful or not, but like, bro, like, I'm as a kid going to house, it's like, bro, people have real candy to give you, bro. Oh, the candy bars. Like, exactly. You understand what I'm saying? You be wanting to double back up the house. Man, damn, bro, that once more, bro.

SPEAKER_02 3:18

They had they gave like a kids. I I went trick-or-treating a couple times. I didn't go all the time because again, I have my grandmama and granddaddy. So I wasn't going like that. Shout out to my auntie about she took me uh one year. And my dad took me one year. And um, yeah, like you, the kids would be walking down the street and tell you, like, hey man, that's a good house right there. Make sure you hit the house. Other kids will stop and tell you, like, that's the spot you want to go hit. You know, yeah, some people that give you some what the um the candy corns, trash, peppermint's trash. Man, but the one house they giving out whole Hershey's or whole Snickers or whole, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 3:52

Fuck I seen candy corn um costumes. I say what? I say that's just a I say a can, you a candy. I'm like, what? You a candy corn? You just a can, you are you you a cornball, bro. Yeah, I see the cell. You are the you are a true cornballer. That's the one you throw it away. You just decided to be like my costume is a candy corn. I seen several of them, bro. Like I know cab. I seen like seven candy corns. I say, okay, candy corns.

Trunk Or Treat Versus House To House

SPEAKER_02 4:21

Yeah, that's like I said, they take the they take the they take the the fun of Halloween out with that trunk or tree. I hate it. I ain't never took, you know what I'm saying? Ex-wife used to take them out. I I wasn't gonna get in the festival. We I took them. When we was trick-or-treat, we gonna trick or treat. It's wet, it's cold, that's part of it. When you when you when you get in your costume, make sure you're thinking about what your costume is. Because you're gonna have to have a coat on. You don't want to put that coat on, you're gonna be freezing. We ain't going back to the car. We gonna park here, we're gonna go walk a couple blocks. And kill this neighborhood, and then we go to the next one.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

That's one of the things that like because I was talking to somebody and they was like, um, oh yeah, it's unsafe. And I'm like, unsafe? Like what's it? It's not. But because I'm like, I'm like thinking like shit. We pull at the end of the street, like, like streets like um busy streets, for we, you know, whatever busy streets. You understand what I'm saying? They said, but I'm like, bro, we used to kiss no big street. We just the park at the end, they they are big as hell. You just run down the yards.

SPEAKER_02 5:19

Bro, that's just them just again, BS. Like, that's been debunked. Anybody listening, you can go check it yourself. Wasn't nobody getting razor blades and stuff, put in their candy and shit like that. That was all myths. That shit been debunked so many times. Ain't no, go look it up. Google it yourself how many kids and got snatched doing Halloween. No, that don't happen like that. Uh, all my years of trick-or-treating and then checking my kids' trick-or-treat. I have never ever found anything. I don't know nobody ever found anything. Never heard about it. I'm on social media. No um actual verified replic source or you know, news media outlet has ever found anything. So you don't find that shit, bro. Think about what I'll tell you. Have you ever the most you might find out your candy, it might be something might be like open. That might happen from your ass held in the bag too hard or some shit like that. Like that shit never happens, bro. But it's just a way to get motherfuckers in the hoop lot, stereotype. You know what I'm saying? And not doing shit.

SPEAKER_01 6:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:16

Like again, I to me, that's the whole point of the that's another point. And I'm gonna move from Halloween in a second. That's another way of, to me, the humans, uh the uh desensitizing, you know, humans. For me, anyways, because that's social interaction. It's a lot of kids. If you in a neighborhood, so of course you bump into other kids in your neighborhood, then you bump into other kids you don't know about your neighborhood, social interaction. This kid might have been staying two blocks away from you, didn't go to the same school of you, or might be in the same school of you. Y'all just ain't had classes yet. You bumping into them. You're getting to see stuff. That's the whole point of it. Social get out there. You're getting to know your neighbors now. You might have thought this house right here had a real mean old lady in it. Comes to find out, Miss Jones ain't mean at all. She's giving out the biggest candy bars. You feel me? It's all social interaction. You taking that away. Troncotry, come on, man.

SPEAKER_01 7:03

No. I seen some um, I seen, I seen some little kids. I think it was on Detroit, one of the little Detroit, you know, Detroit led social media page or whatever. Some of our little kids, bro. Man, I guess the people had just left the candy on the um thing with a note and said take one. Oh no. Man, these little bad motherfuckers, man. No. Man, I they look read the red, they even read the um um letter take one. Nah. Man, they look, man, they took everything, bro. And then the kids behind them came up, was like, they just walked away. I say, man, I'm not gonna.

SPEAKER_02 7:43

Whoever did that had too much faith in the humanity. They had too much faith in valor and stuff like that. You know, integrity. Nah. You gotta pass that out. You know, because no kid, I pretty sure the kids like, we ain't gotta trick-or-treat no more. We loaded.

SPEAKER_01 7:56

Man, them kids bad as hell, bro.

SPEAKER_02 7:58

We out. Or eat it and then go back to trick-or-treating. You know what I'm saying? Nah, you can't do that. The other thing I want to touch on before we get out of here, I'm gonna do it real quick. Ladies gonna be mad, but I don't care. I do it anytime it's Halloween. I don't understand the fascination with you have to show your ass for a costume for Halloween. Females take this as a time to be half ass naked. And don't nobody say nothing to them about it. As much ass cheeks I seen out last night was crazy.

SPEAKER_01 8:29

Titty's I ain't gonna say her name, but we know her though, man. This man, she was, I say, I say I was going through, you know, we watch the stories and shit. I'm like, the fuck? I say, what? This motherfucker was uh old girl from the mummy. Um Nephro, I can't even remember that. Uh Nephrodie. Yeah, bro. Like she ain't had nothing but a net on, bro, to lay things covering her titties. I say, man, what? That's all women use it for. Wow, man.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

All women use that shit for, man. It's crazy. They use it to dress slutty, provocative, and then not can't nobody say nothing to you because it's Halloween.

SPEAKER_01 9:08

I don't mind, ladies. Keep it up.

Debunking Halloween Safety Myths

SPEAKER_02 9:09

No, I watch it. I I I just be looking at it. It just be funny to me because I done heard a couple chicks hit me up and say, I can't find nothing to wear. I said, I just live off the Halloween spot. It's man shit in there where I don't want to wear nothing like that. You don't want to wear it because you want to show your ass. You feel me? That's why you don't want to wear it. You want to show your ass. Man, I'm not gonna. You feel me? I done went to I went to mad bars yesterday, bro. I went to about four different bars. The app, man, it was it was just at the point with some of that shit. I'm like, man, you just could just warn the lingerie and came on the fuck out the house and threw a mask on. Because shit, that's what you got on anyway. Ass titties just out. And then you got the little tape, the little X or you know, the little tape they put off nibble. What that's doing. I still see your whole titty. I just don't see the nibble. Exactly. Like, what? Again, I like seeing it. Don't get it twisted. I just be looking like, man, they be backwards. But yeah, I just wanted to touch on that real quick. So, man, what I want to get into, man, this is crazy. You know what I'm saying? Shouts out to my cousin Tez, Montez, and my cousin Dink. You know what I'm saying? They just opened up the new establishment levels. Used to be formally known as a law. Shouts out to Rodney, too, man. He's a good guy. I think he's down in um I can't remember what part of Florida, but he was working at Hulk Hogan um bar down in Florida. That's where he transitioned to it. I get it. He said he had been barring, you know, I mean a bartender, owner of a bar over 20 years. So it was like, man, you feel me? He wanted to get out the cold. Being here, you're in the cold when you're in Michigan, you feel me? Going down to Florida, it's nice every day you get up for the most part outside of rain. Beautiful in Florida. Yeah, so even a bar is gonna be jumping harder because it's always nice. But you know, shouts out to Ronnie. I was just in Florida in March.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

Beautiful time to leave here and go there, you know.

Social Interaction And Community Building

The Candy Bowl Ethics And Costume Takes

SPEAKER_02 10:52

Yeah, that's the goal, man. I want what they call the snowbirds. That's what they call you. When you when you have a uh spot out and somewhere sunny and stuff like that, they call you a snowbird. Soon as it, you know, when it gets winter, birds fly south. You know what I'm saying for the winter. So that's how they go. But I wanted to touch on that. So, you know, the craziest part about this whole situation, how all this stuff went down, the funniest part was so ABC uh channel 12 news had, you know, they um put the post up because with the post being with that, I read the comments. And I'm gonna read some of these comments. Let's shake read some. I'm gonna read some. I'm gonna read some of these comments, man. And you just see like the the blatant hate and the underlying hate. That's the illest one, the underlying hate. So I'm gonna go with the first one I read. You know, so a bar, I should say the names, but I don't want to get in trouble, so I'm not gonna do that. But I'm gonna say the first one I see it, so a bar filled with old men, young women, Trumps approved this establishment. And why I'm saying this is because this is what the headline of ABC 12 News said. New sports bar open in downtown Flint, but the youngest adults aren't welcome. Level sports bar and grill opens in Flint with unique age restriction. So the age restriction is 25 and up for women, 30 and up for men. Now, before I get back into reading comments and pass to my uh partner Shay, I'm gonna say this. For somebody who's been working with you for a long time, for somebody who frequents in a lot of establishments, bars, I mean, and clubs, in Flint and Genesee County. And outside of this too, but we just talking about Genesee County and Flint for a long time. I say this with a lot of expertise, a lot of experience. There's a big difference. And please, please hit me with them DMs because y'all gonna do it, or catch me out and get to talking. It's an exception to every rule, but again, rule of thumb, play the odds, don't play the exceptions. Most 25-year-old women in a club setting are more mature, more fun going than 25-year-old males. And I'm gonna break it down the reason why. A 25-year-old woman comes in the club with her friends, they usually come in with friends, they're gonna drink, they're gonna dance, they're gonna have a good time. You know, you have some that do the little 15-second dance, 15-second twerk, and then they sit back down. You got some gonna dance the whole night away. Shouts out to my um, you know, vanilla flavor women. They're, I see, I'd have been in spots with them, and they're off beat the whole night because they got the same dance move, but they're dancing the whole night. Good times. You get what I'm saying? Good times. Get drunk. The worst case scenario, and I seen it last night when I was at GBs. The worst case scenario you might see is two ladies get drunk and get into it. Easy for the bouncers or security guards to get them out of there, and that's that. You feel me? You might get a little bit more scuffle in the park lot, get one in the car and get them on off, get their friends and there, get them on out of there. That's worst case scenario. Now let's flip this. We're gonna bring in the 25-year-old men, aka an older YN. For y'all that kind of little hip with it. A 25-year-old is still classified as an older Y-n. So they get into it. Before you even get into the confrontation part, they come in the club, two, three, four, five D. They're not dancing. They're mugging. Some of them are intoxicated, some of them high off drugs. They're what my granddad used to call us wallflowers, holding up the wall, mugging. Nothing, not not in there for the festivities. Just in there. They're not singing, they're not dancing, you might not even catch them bopping their head to the beat. As soon as they have a disagreement, the fight might start in there. Now it's who's gonna be who to the car first, so they can get their firearm. Then it proceeds to shoot either in a crowd, trying to get whoever they're trying to get, or shoots into the establishment. Either way, it's firearms. This brings problem one, your patrons, the people who come in there, they don't feel safe. One of them might get hurt, you got the liability to that. Second, your insurance, they're a liability with that. Third, now you have the mayor, the city, the citizens of the city coming down on you. Then, to top it off, you have black publicity with your spot. So all this time it took for you to build your business up, all the loopholes, all the red tape, all that you gotta go through, behind letting these certain demographics in, because ruin that with ease. Don't let nobody get seriously harmed, or worse, murdered, your establishment might get shut down right after that. So all the work you did to get this place together, all the work you did with the interviewing staff, all the work you did with reinventing it, rehabbing the building, whatever you have to do. If you had to go get liquor license, if you had to go get a hookah license, if you had to go, you know, get the um health department to come in there and check it, make sure your kids. Everything up the club. Everything you did, because people don't understand, I I talk to bar owners a lot. People don't understand how hard it is to even get the bar going, but get running, just to get it to the point where you can have a grand open. So because them being veteran bar owners and club owners, then did it in for all ways, they knew even though downtown we want to keep the rift rap out. Because if we came in here and just said, hey, there's no age limit, you know, and then you get the wrong people in there, can't just turn them down just to turn them down. You have to have a legitimate reason, you can't discriminate. So when you start letting them in and then some go left, the first thing's gonna come down. Oh, they brought this type of energy vibe crowd, this mess down to where we at downtown. Now, again, it's transparency. I keep it real, transparent. A lot of that's just hating, just to be hating. Then you have the underline hate, is because it's more black owners. It's a bigger black African-American footprint downtown. You have owner bricks that's owned by a black owner. You have Spuse that's owned by a black owner. Now you have levels. If I'm not mistaken, Ray Tyler got the spot down there. I want to say uh for his daughter, got the ice cream spot. Another black owner. I think I'm missing one or two. This might, and I ain't fact-checked this, so anybody can correct me, but I I'm I'm assuming it's probably the most black-owned businesses in downtown Flint probably ever. It's gonna be feedback from that. I hate to say it like that, but I keep it real. You have some people of different races hate just because of that. And when I read the comments, I'm gonna keep reading, I'm gonna pass it off to Shay to let Shay get his comments. He's reading all. But when you see these comments, it's ridiculous. Some of these comments, like y'all, y'all really playing devil advocate. You hating just to hate. And the famous words uh of Chris Brown, how you can hate for outside the club. You can't even get in. So you don't like I I don't get it, man. And even the way that uh ABC News, Channel 12 formulated the headline.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

Like, come on, man. Yeah, and I know cuz done probably like it's cool because you're gonna get any public bad publicity is good publicity. You still got people talking about you. But still, I don't like it. So what you got to say on the shake, man?

SPEAKER_01 18:49

Man, it's just uh sad to say it. It's just uh a natural way of things, bro. You understand what I'm saying? You know, like when it comes to media coverage of certain um business demographics, they tend to report them negatively. That can maybe extremely profitable for the business owners and parties involved. Um if they're not um of a certain demographic, you know, they're just gonna make it harder for 'em. Like if you were from another demographic, it's just, you know, always flows smoothly. Plus, on top of the um, you know, the the gaining popul, you know, the gaining popularity of more black businesses downtown, you know. Like, I don't think that those other businesses get in some type of negative um coverage when they get out, came out. Did Channel 12 um, I don't know, is it articles with channel 12 supporting those other businesses?

SPEAKER_02 20:04

Uh yes, I ain't never seen none from a negative standpoint. Now I again I can't fact-check it because I don't know.

New Flint Bar Opens With Age Rules

SPEAKER_01 20:10

No, I'm I'm I'm doing it now. But it's just, you know, like, you know, the age limit is uh extremely, I think it's an extremely great idea. I concur. I believe other establishments is gonna more than likely, you know, pick up on this system and maybe implement it, implement it themselves in other parts of the, you know, state. You know what I'm saying? We might end up going down in Detroit and Detroit bars are like, dang, like, you know, yeah, you you read that article about Upper Flint, you know, nice little new club up there. Yeah, man, he only uh such and such. You feel me? So this may be a positive thing, you know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, like, let's not, you know, let's not act like we don't know. The person who think, you know, the people who involved in this, bro, these people know. You understand what I'm saying? How can you question the person who knows, bro? Like, for example, like you and dealt with kids, bro. Right. You know. You understand what I'm saying? So if you have been involved in clubs and bars and promoting parties for years and years and years, and you know, in the trenches with it, you know, let's be honest, Brody's been in the trenches with it. You understand what I'm saying? Like, bro, it's a lot of trauma that comes with doing this type of stuff, bro, that we really don't talk about. You understand what I'm saying? Brody was just shot. You understand what I'm saying? Just a few months ago, you know, dealing with this type of stuff. So you don't think the people who really deal with this type of stuff have to deal with the trauma, know a little bit more about what's going on than you do, because you just want to come out and have a drink at, you know, I guess the new place downtown. You feel me? Like, bro, it's it is what it is. Like, younger males, bro, are, you know, more likely to, you know, be a little bit more um tremunctious, I would say. You understand what I'm saying? So, like, I like the idea. You know, I think it's great, you know, but you're gonna have the um other parts of the population who have their opinion on it, you know. That's why you're that's that's the whole thing, right? That's why it's called policies. You understand what I'm saying? Business, guys, it's about creating your system that works for you. So, as any business owner, you make the rules of your business. That's why we live in America. Like, guys, this is called capitalism. So, what happens is you have an idea, you pick pen, paper, the shit come up, it happens, boom. Now you got employees. Now you have, you feel me, now you have structure in the community. Now you have power to do things. It's called capitalism. You come up with an idea, you implement it, now you hire people. It's just that simple. But then at the same time, you have all the power to make the rules. If you said you can only enter here if you have on a white T and black pants, that's the dress code.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

Yeah, we got a free market. We a free market economy.

SPEAKER_01 23:41

That's the dress code, buddy. And if you don't come with those standards and those stipulations and you don't want to understand why, we want only a lot of people that got black jeans on and white t-shirts. That's the dress code. We may be, um, we may be a grand theft auto bar. I shouldn't probably say that all over the phone. Nah, nah, that's good, man. No, I probably should. I should have kept that to myself. Yeah, that might be a good idea. You understand what I'm saying? Seriously though, like, bro, you got streaming niggas, you feel me? My bro, they got all these kids that like games. Like, bro, like when they get older, guess what? You understand what I'm saying? They might be like, bro, you wanna go to that new ground photo? Bro, you gotta wear your uh, you feel me? Bro, you gotta wear your black jeans, bro, and your white tee, bro. And we in there, you feel me? Everybody in this motherfucker looking like um um Stan. Eminem. You feel me?

Why 25 For Women, 30 For Men

SPEAKER_02 24:44

Nah, it's it and that's that's my thing. Like, before we dive back into the comments, it's you don't have to go there. If it's that much of a problem for you, you don't have to go there. That's my thing. It's so many other spots downtown. That's I I don't understand being negative be negative. If you even I've been at spots before, bro, that had bad service. You think I run a Facebook or Twitter or anywhere, Instagram, and post it? No. You know, I don't I'm not here to tear down nobody. Tearing down nobody is not gonna help me uplift me by bringing you down. So I'm not gonna do that. Now, what I will do is I just won't go no more. Of course, my inner circle, I would tell them, because I'm doing that, not hating, I'm doing that because I don't want them to have to, you know, spend their money and go through what I just went through. And I give them a disclaimer, hey, it might have been just the cook was on bad, or maybe that waitress just had it hard day a day, but this is what happened when I was there. I'm not gonna go blast it on what you call it. And I remember going through this and I had an episode past episodes a long time talking about with Red. You know, shouts out to Ray, man. Yeah, I see how they, you know, they they hated on him. And I know all of them know this. I talked to him, they already know this comes with the territory. It's just crazy. Because that's my end goal. I want to get me to open a nice sports bar or a nice lounge. You feel me? That's that's what I want to. That's my thing. You know it's gonna come with it, but it's just crazy seeing it. Like, and again, maybe channel 12 news, ABC News, didn't mean it that way. But to me, it seemed like y'all put that as a conservat a controversial, you know, heading, headline. You know? And I know when you're into media, especially, you know what I'm saying, journalism and things of that nature, that's writing. The first thing you want to do, that first line, that gotta catch you. So you want something that's gonna jump off the page, that's gonna spark interest. That's part of it. I learned that back probably in sixth grade. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 26:43

So, okay, I'm just reading. Go read the comment. This ain't no kind. I'm on, I did something and pitt, you know, using my little tools, you feel me? I don't think what I'm using, but you know, it's just like so, clickbait. So what if, let's just say ABC12, um, just trying to, you know, get some views. You understand what I'm saying? You know, because you know, they are competing with the Facebook algorithm and things like that when it comes to attention. You understand what I'm saying? Exactly. You know, so like, you know, you know, you just you know, I don't know. I'm gonna play the devil's hour or whatever, you know, whatever. But maybe you know they wanted to report it that way so that they can get more attention on it. You understand? Instead of, you know, reporting the good, hey, flip sports bar downtown, open up. Great business, guys. Go enjoy. So the whole everybody wins, I would say. You know, we still get the business supported on um ABC 12. You understand what I'm saying? And it's still gonna attract attention because that's still gonna make people wanna come. Because guess what? Guess what everybody guess what us Americans, guess what we always wanna do? We always wanna go somewhere where we ain't supposed to, where can't go. You understand what I'm saying? When you tell the motherfucker in America they can't go somewhere, they like, what motherfucker? It's it's even if I don't want to go there. I don't even want to go to this motherfucker, and I'm trying to go now. What the fuck is you gonna tell me y'all can't come some motherfucker? I'm an American. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

So you hit it, you hit it right on the nose. They gonna, you just you hit it right on the nose. You can't, you gonna tell me what? Oh, I got something. I'm gonna show you better than I can tell you.

SPEAKER_01 28:45

Even though, you know, like I said earlier, it's business's um preference and ability to, you know, make the rules that they see fit for their establishment, you know. Because at the same time, you know, man, we are, you know, we don't want, so we're trying to, so look, this is the thing. Like, like our prior episode, right? When we talked about A10 Day and things like that, how, you know, when it comes to certain things, we know that, you know, you're not getting the same preference to protection as other events and things like that. So when it comes to us and we understand these type of things, bro, if I was into business, if if I was into a bar or whatever, and I'm from where I'm from, bro, like I'm I'm pitting my policies and rules in off of what I've been through, bro. You understand what I'm saying? So, for example, if I was to start a sports bar and I was to hire somebody or whatever, be a part of somebody even running a sports bar, bro. I would want to be a part, I wanna be with I would wanna run a bar with somebody, bro, who you know how can I be blunt, like ain't no bitch ass nigga, bro. Can't knock it. You understand what I'm saying? Like, bro, we dealing with people, bro. You might have to, like, hey, cuz, nigga, you gotta get the fuck up out of here, nigga. And I'm saying you gotta get the fuck up out of here. You understand what I'm saying? I don't wanna be in business with no old bitch ass nigga and shit getting going down. He over shivering in a corner, bro. And he ain't never, he don't even know how this shit get with this shit, bro. Yeah. You over there shaking, like, damn, where was you at? You left, bro. You gotta I gotta be, bro, you gotta be ready to you feel me? It might get physical.

SPEAKER_02 30:29

What you gonna do?

SPEAKER_01 30:30

What you gonna do? You gonna call recall the Flint police department? That's gonna take a couple minutes to get there. Your head already buzz, man. Yeah, you gotta get your action going. So when it comes to things, bro, people that know. So okay, what they're so levels, boom. Cuz don't put these implement um um policies in, bro. And then somebody die.

SPEAKER_02 30:56

You know what's coming next.

SPEAKER_00 30:59

Oh, oh, flick down flirt, bro! It's a terrible investment for the city, and look at these people are dying down town and because that's what they will want.

Media Framing And Underlying Hate

SPEAKER_01 31:15

You understand what I'm saying? Because now, guess what? That's one thing I will say. They will let you build some shit. So they can tear you down. They can tear you down. Yeah and come right in and swoop right up under you, buddy. Yep. And take all your hard work. They're like, look at these motherfuckers. Look at what they built, look what they did to the place, Johnny.

SPEAKER_02 31:40

So I'm I'm gonna get into some of these comments. So here go the first one. So the women have to be 25 and the men 30. Is that I already said that one. I said that one. Hold on. Let me go to the next one. So a 25-year-old lady can't bring her 25-year-old boyfriend, y'all full of it. Again, if that's the case. You have all them other establishments, other bars that you can go to. You downtown. You bar hop downtown anyway. Which, which, which, what you ate for? And let me read this one. That's what my understanding is why people are saying it's not legal. And it's a great, it's great because the age restriction can absolutely happen, but it has to be the same age to be legal. People will find anything to complain about. So I said, let their legal team handle it. I'm sure it's already in their lawyers' hand. Years ago, we had a club in Flint that started 25 and know it's no longer open. I with the new business, the best and success in their uh I wisp. No, I I guess he said wisp. I wisp. The new business, the best and success in a new venture. I am all for age restriction. I just agree they need to be the same. Just them older men can't bring their 20-year-old girlfriends. He laughed. He put laughing. That was that that's what I was looking at.

SPEAKER_01 32:57

Check this one. You feel me? She says this. She says, smartest rule ever. Less drama. Two. Older people usually know how to tip, unlike younger crowds. The owner has another bar that is strictly 30 and up. Best little bar in front. The only bar I'll go to, since they're open, they have never had any issues. No shooting, no crazy fights. 30 and up makes sense. A lot, a lot of ways for the a lot of ways for the customer and the staff. And it's a safe place to go. Because Montez and Dink ain't about bullshit. Remember what I just said? Yeah. You wanna go somewhere where I know, guess what? Hey Dink, this fucker right here. I don't know what's going on with these guys. You might need to go over there and check them out. You want some bullshit? And guess what? You know, guess what? You know, Dink ain't gonna be no whoop pussy about going to go over there and see what's going on over there. You understand what I'm saying? You know, like I just rather be with a, you know, a motherfucker that I would feel that would protect us.

SPEAKER_02 34:17

I'ma use the Cheers thing. The Cheers uh theme is you wanna go where everybody knows your name. Well, you know, in today's time when you're in the urban settings, you wanna go where everybody knows they're safe. And that's one thing. I'm gonna read another. Why do you want 25-year-old women with 30-year-old men? Somebody said a five-year difference, really? And that's the truth. So what you're saying is, like, if you go to college campus, you could be 18. I could be taking classes at 60. What is you saying? Like, what? Again, it's just nonsense.

SPEAKER_01 34:51

Let's check this out. A five-year difference. Baby girl says, she say, I can't, she says, I can't stop laughing because most of these people don't even live in Flint. Or near or frequent here. Nope. You feel me? I love the age limit. I'll be stopping by this weekend. Congratulations. You understand what I'm saying? So, bro, it's like, you know, and that's the whole thing too, bro. Like, it'd be, since we got social media, bro, it'd be a motherfucker that ain't even in your town, bro, pitting their opinion on something, bro, getting the algorithm growing, bro, and we'll be in the upward about something. You understand what I'm saying? Like, seriously, bro, like, these people ain't even from here. You understand what I'm saying? For one thing, bro, one thing we gotta understand, bro. They don't be wanting us to have no nice establishments, bro, to go to, bro. And plus to call our own, bro. Like, seriously, man. Like, when it comes to nice establishments and things like that, man, most of the time, bro, the owners, bro, they don't be of your um ethnicity, man. You feel me? They be of whatever, you know, ethnicity that's deemed to control that industry in that area.

Policies, Capitalism, And Ownership

SPEAKER_02 36:06

And again, is this a safeguard? Like, you know, that's why I said I hate when people bring up the exceptions. You don't live life by the exceptions. You live life by the majority. That's just how life goes. That's how it's always gonna go. This is a safeguard. This is a precaution. It's some 30-year-olds that act like they're 15. It's some 40-year-olds that act like they're 15. But for a safeguard, I would be more shocked at a 30-year-old man acting like an 18-year-old man than a 20-year-old man acting like an 18-year-old man. You know what I'm saying? That's the difference. That's the big difference. You know, I don't get it. Y'all want 35-year-old men mingling with crowds 10 years younger than them. Weird, but let's see how long that works from angles. No hate, but that's tough. I'm not sure if they truly understand the crowd that frequents this area. Also, downtown regulars were never the problem down there. It's typical was people who normally didn't come down there when other events happened, or actually teenagers 90% of the time, not people 21 plus fighting and shooting. Again, I agree with the age restriction, but it's the age based on a gender. That's pretty weird for me. This is what I'm saying with that, again, here we go. So if I go in a bar and I go to all types of bars, I I don't just go to black bars, I don't go to white bars, I go to all types of bars. If it's a bar that doesn't have an age limit on it, you still have guys that's 60 hitting on 22 year olds, 21-year-olds, 20-year-olds. So what is you, what is you, like that's that's the part I'm I'm I'm that's losing me. If there's no age or limit, or let's say it's a 21-year age limit to get in. That means I could be 70 hitting on a 21-year-old. What is you talking about? Like you promote, like they making it seem like by that that five-year gap, they're promoting older guys to talk to younger women. A woman that's 25 years old is fair game, buddy. See, I'm gonna go farther than that, bro. A 25-year-old woman normally is women normally date up anyways. Exactly. So what are y'all talking about? Like, if I go look at most of these people coming, that's not the box, and I can get them on here and ask them a question. How old is your significant other? Nine times out of ten, they're gonna be older than them anyway. So shut up. You hating just the hate, man. You know, uh you know, it is.

SPEAKER_01 38:29

They want to talk all this stuff, right? Just like just look at this. Look at that scenario right there, right? So, so we talk so much about men and women and all this and all that, right? So I guess the age then, right? So 25. So they feel like, oh, you're promoting younger women to talk to older men. Ain't that what women already do? That's my point. Like, like, like, so so something that women already do. It's an issue now. It's an issue now.

SPEAKER_02 39:12

That's my that's why I say you hating just that. It's an underlying behind it. This is why I tell people all the time. And I'm we're gonna transition from this to the next thing and end it. This is why I call it underlying hate. When you start making it obvious that you're hating, that's underlying hate to me. You know, a lot of people call underlying hate the other way when it's not obvious. I'm the opposite, because that's how my brand thinks. That's when I know it's it's real hate. If somebody comes at me and see me, I don't like you, Rob, my first thing I'll be like, you just came out the blue and straight to my face, I'll be like, well, why? Bro. I'm trying to figure out your angle. But when I start seeing you do little stuff behind the scenes, that's real hate. Because you're you're you're you're being you're being attentional with it. You're trying to make it slick, you're trying to be sly with it. That's how I know it's serious.

SPEAKER_01 39:57

But it's other industries that use this policy. Yeah. Like, you can't get a good car, you can't get a you can't get a decent car rental price until you're over 25.

SPEAKER_02 40:06

But see, what they're gonna say is it's not the age limit.

SPEAKER_01 40:09

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 40:10

It's not the age limit what they're trying to make it. That's why I say underlying hate. They're saying it's discriminatory because it's 25 for women and not 25 for men. It's not the age limit thing. They want to, if you're gonna do 30, do 30 across the board. If you're gonna do 25, do 25 across the board. Like, stop it, man. Like, stop it. Y'all know that's why I said it's underlying hating. You're trying to hate within the barriers. Shout out to my, I almost said it, you know, my uh ex-supervisor. You know, that's why I mean underlying hate. Underlying hating. You're doing stuff within the guidelines, trying to do it, but you can see that you're targeting. Exactly. That's why I say it's underlying. If somebody walked up to me right now, we walked out of library. I don't like you, uh, Bobby. The first thing I'm gonna be, I'm gonna laugh. Cause like, what made you so upbrunt to ask me that? You know, like, what's the problem, bro? I if that was the I should know the problem if it's like that. You get what I'm saying? I'm gonna think they're drunk or something or intoxicated. More than likely they would be. But when you start doing it behind the scenes, underlying, that's true hate. That means you're sitting back there, you being meticulous. You're taking your time. You get what I'm saying? You making sure, yeah, I'm gonna make this look like it's not hate. That's true hate. To try to make it look like it's not hate is true hate. And that's the thing I try to tell people. That's the hate that's the worst hate defined. Because they really took time to hate on you. They took their time. If I come in there, if I if I'm a friend, Shay, we've been homeboys since sandbox. I don't come out and say, I don't like you. If I came out and say right now, I don't like you, Shay, you're gonna look at me like, what? What the fuck are you talking about, bro? But I start doing shit like this. Damn, man, you know, motherfuckers act like that when they work at gym, they top shit. I start commenting on your glasses. Damn, what type of glasses is them, bro? They got them worship ones like that, man. A couple of hundred more. I start commenting on your shoes. Why you got them on, bro? You should have had these on. Or if you got some nice shoes on. Oh, you think you the shit with them shoes on. That's underlying hate. That's real that's from the get what I'm saying. You know, that's why you're smiling. That's from the, that's from the soul. That's real hatred.

Comment Reactions And Legality Debates

SPEAKER_01 42:10

Yeah, been through that type of shit. Yeah. That's real hatred. That's a commitment. That's just what it be, bro. Look, bro. It's just like, man, I hey, man. Like, shit. I can say, bro, like, things come easier to others, man, than it does to others, you know. Like, you know, I can sit here, you know, I can sit here and point out it's certain characteristics that you and I have that others don't have, why we receive and things just happen the way it happened for us. You understand what I'm saying? Like you with your new endeavors on working and things like that on your new job. You understand what I'm saying? Like a motherfucker see something and see where it's going and be like, I need to make a move. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? Like when it came to doing what a nigga used to do, I'm like, man, you know what? I'm tired of this shit. I need to make a move. So I made a move, bro. Like, that's the difference, bro. You understand what I'm saying? Like, the reason nigga had a crazy ass run because I looked, paid attention to seeing what another nigga did, and like, I gotta pay attention. I can't do that. You know, you got plenty of examples, just pay attention. You understand what I'm saying? But the thing is, bro, niggas be hating on the wrong motherfuckers, bro. You should collab. You understand what I'm saying? It's it's it's it's a way better outcome. You feel me?

SPEAKER_02 43:23

That's why I say it's deep hatred. You can't get past that. Deep hatred, you can't move deep hatred. You can't get that out of you. It's in you. That's why I said underlying hate is blatant hate. Y'all remember that one.

SPEAKER_01 43:37

Man, I ain't even, bro, bro, a lot of hate, bro, when it comes to like families and friends and neighborhoods and how we all grew up and things like that, bro. It really be, bro, just just primitive things, bro. Like, you might have a daddy, nigga, and I didn't. You understand what I'm saying? Nigga, especially from our way, nigga, they felt like if your parents didn't smoke, smoke cracker, use drugs, nigga, you couldn't sell drugs.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

Yeah, that's like your parents don't use drugs. Listen, that's back to what I said. The underline hate it's in there, bro. That we you know what, we're gonna touch back on this another time, man. Because this is that's something we can go deep with. That's a whole nother topic for another episode. But we get out of there, bro. I want to go to the verses. So I know you watch the verses, I watch the verses too. I growing up, I like I rock with cash money and no limit. Of course, I was more of a cash money fan because my favorite rapper of all time, I didn't say the best rapper, he's my favorite rapper, Juvenile. I think my best album all time, and I think this is the best album of all time, is 400 degrees from top to bottom is no skip.

SPEAKER_01 44:45

Yeah, 400 likes. Man, when Juve first came, I say, ah, they'd say, okay, they ain't finna play with it, man.

SPEAKER_02 44:53

I tell the difference between No Limit and Cash Money and me was they both come out of, you know, I'm saying the same spot in New Orleans. I always said this. Their best rapper, no, no, no, I fuck with P Heavy. Their best rapper was P. P ain't got no bars. It's nothing Pete ever said that made me say, Let me rewind that or let me say that again. It was like anthems and shit like that. And it's no knock to Pete, because I love Pete shit. You feel me? Cash Money was like the more polished version of No Limit. They had guys that actually could rap. The guys who could rap on No Limit, they didn't get pushed to the front. Like guys like Fiend, Mac, um, the only one that could rap really good that got pushed to the front to me was Mystical. Mac, Fiend, Magic, them niggas that could really go spit, they didn't really get pushed. I didn't see their videos and shit like that. I seen them NP video. I seen them in SHIP video, but I never seen them with their own national, nationwide video. You get now, motherfuckers from the underground knew they shit, but they didn't have no shit coming on BET or nothing like that. I think Fiend might have had one uh video uh that that uh damn, I can't think of the name. I know the beat, but um bump bump bump da-da-da-da-da-da-da. I can't walk it like I talk it. Bring it how I live it. I can't think of the name, but because my it's listen, it's missing me right now. But that's the only ever I seen. Now, if you go listen to his albums, he can spit. As we can see, he's transitioning out with Jet Life and fuck with currency. He can actually rap. Magic just got out from doing his time some years ago. Magic, go listen to Magic albums, Shell Shock. He can go. He was rapping before he got with No Limit. He almost got signed to Cash Money. He can rap. I ain't never seen none of his main shit. So I'm only saying that, like the motherfuckers that got put in the forefront outside of mystical for No Limit, they really didn't have no bars. Ship couldn't rap, no knock to him, love him, cool dude, got a couple platinum albums. He offbeat that beat. That's his style, bro. It's his style, but even with that, bro, man, that shit hard, bro. See, this is what I'm about to say. It ain't just the style. When I listened to his bars, the bars wasn't really there. He had a couple songs that had him, but the bars weren't really there. P wasn't really, P said the same lines and same bars. He recycled the bitches. Man, P wasn't there.

SPEAKER_01 47:00

P was a hustle.

SPEAKER_02 47:01

Yeah, that's what I'm telling you. I'm not mad at it. So the only one I'm saying, I made P, that's my dog. I rock with P. I rock with all no limit shit for the most part. And today when it's that new shit. Once they got to that, once they did the 504 boys, that's when I kind of stopped fucking with P New. When C Murder got in trouble and all shit like that. But no limit from like 95 to like 98, 99, I fuck with no limit. Super.

SPEAKER_01 47:22

But that's like, like, when I like when I analyze it, I'm like, dang, it's so dope. Because like it's both eras. Like, because like P was first, you feel me? Like you say from that year to that year, then out of nowhere. Cash money was cash money came, you feel me? And it wasn't out of nowhere either. Deep boy wasn't out of nowhere. We didn't know we were now. But like when it comes to like cash money, us as kids, bro. Man. Robert, I was in elementary. Like, going to Martin. Bro, what? Like, what? I'm a stunner. Number one stunner. Yeah. That's what I'm saying, bro. The video. Oh, that's what I'm saying. Like, bro, like this was the most astonishing stunt and shit you could ever see on the planet earth. Hood extravagant. What we see in hood niggas doing donuts and laminar community for rock. You know, butterfly goes.

SPEAKER_02 48:24

All that shit. Like, you didn't see that. They brought, like, okay, I give you a prime example. You look at like Jay-Z stunning. It was more like stunning.

SPEAKER_00 48:35

It was more stunning. These niggas didn't. They did.

Safety, Demographics, And Nightlife Risk

SPEAKER_02 48:37

Jay-Z stunned. When Jay-Z stunned, it was more on an up echelon level. You get what I'm saying? Oh, this is not. You got to check. Oh, you're talking about Picasso's and honey. Oh, oh, what's a Picasso? Uh-uh, da. When baby them stunned, it was like what you would see the average hood motherfucker do. I got this money, bitch. Go give me this Lambo. I'm about to go put tire tracks in the motherfucker. We about to smoke blunts in this bitch. Lift the does up in this motherfucker. That's why I said, to me, that's the difference between cash money and no limit. No limit was cold as fuck. The hat they run, they run, overlap. It kind of, because that's where the beef really came in. When No Limit started subsiding, cash money was taken off. And I tell them, it's like a more cash, and they from the same area. Cash money is a more polished version of No Limit. So I'm going to say this too. The reason why they lost versus, and this is everybody record me on this one. Can I put this on snap? This is the real reason why they lost. Of course, you didn't have Wayne and Turk in there. But this is the real reason why they lost. Same reason why diplomats lost to the locks. The diplomats has a way better catalog than the locks. I didn't say bars, I said catalogs. Songs that charted, songs that did this. But locks came in, I said this before. Locks came in grabbing their flowers. Y'all owe us, we're gonna go get the flowers. Y'all don't owe us the flowers. We gonna go get the flowers. Jim Jones Joels, Cam came in there. We already got the flowers. Just already owed to us. There was no structure to it. When you see that version with kissing them, they was ready. Prepared. Went missing, stumbling over words, none of that. Let's go. That's why they wanted it. Let's go back, fast forward to now. No limit came prepare. We what we know them for? The tank. No limit. Army shit. Fatigue. They came prepared. Cash money came in that motherfucker the same way diplomats did it. We feel like we was a better label than y'all. We got more hits than y'all. Our flowers are already owed to us. We don't need it. So what they come in there? They called each other up the couple days before. Hey, let's go do this versus. You feel me? They supposed to come in, Jaboz, Reese, you feel me? White T's. That was their shit. They didn't do none of that. Now, of course, the biggest thing, you didn't have Wayne and Turk. Turk, and shouts out to Turk, but Turk wasn't a game mover, wasn't a needle mover. It was Wayne. Because Wayne could have gone past just the hot boy shit. He could have got into his Carter one, Carter 2, 500 degrees.

SPEAKER_01 51:02

Like I think that song, I think Baby must have owned that song that he played.

SPEAKER_02 51:06

He owned all of it. He just played it just to play it. The Millie. The Millie, that's Carter 3, the Millie. He just played it to play it. You get what I'm saying? But that's what happened. So even if I tell people this, even if Wayne would have showed up and it would have been disjointed, because I don't shout out to Wayne, but I seen Wayne some clips of him performing songs, he stumbling over words and shit like that, you still would have got cooked. If they didn't come in there with cohesiveness, it was gonna be over anyway. Because you can see P came in, and just back to P. That's the difference. P is a thinker. I'm not saying baby not, but I'm saying P is a real thinker. I'ma go back to the thing. When he played the number one stunner, what'd he play after that? You feel me?

unknown 51:43

Damn.

SPEAKER_02 51:44

I'm gonna tell you what he played after that. He didn't play when he played a number one stunner. He came right there and said, Well, I said what? Yeah, you might have started to stun shit, but.

SPEAKER_01 51:53

Oh, he played uh what's the name? Exactly. Yeah, nigga. So don't get your ass robbed.

SPEAKER_02 52:00

You know what I'm saying? So that's that's you know, that's the point I'm making. You feel me? So he was strategic. He had thought this out. Baby Nimm didn't think shit up. We gather this motherfucker, we the shit, we better and then we're gonna go on. That's why I use the comparison to diplomats. They did the same thing with Dipset. Cam was the only it goes back and forth. That's my second favorite rapper of all time, Cam. Cam on that versus Cam was rocking. Remember the verses. Because Cam, polished artist. Who was rocking for uh Cash Money? Juvie. Exactly. You could tell you the artist, man. You could tell Juvie came prepared. That's the difference. That's where the difference was. Now, Wayne, when Wayne on top of his shit, Wayne would have came in polished. Oh, it would have been over with, bro. If Wayne would have came in at one moment. What type of shit he on? What I heard he didn't perform because he said if Turk wasn't uh getting invited to perform, he wasn't performing. I don't know how true that that is. That's not fact checked, but that's what I heard over the, you know what I'm saying, social media. So that's why I said, like, if they would have came, and this were all no limit lovers, I'm a cash money lover, but no limit one at hands down. But if they would have came in there with Juvie, Turk, BG, and Lil Wayne, and they would have came in that on Cohesion level, they would have blew them out the water. They had so much shit left in the clip that they didn't use. The same thing the diplomats did.

SPEAKER_01 53:21

Like when it was over, when it was over, I'm like, Right. It's over? Yeah. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, I'm like, it was hard, but I'm like, I'm like, man, damn, where the fuck Wayne at, man? Like, man.

SPEAKER_02 53:32

And I'm gonna say this, this is the killer part. I'm gonna say this. This is the other killer part, bro. If they would have done it enough, a lot of people don't know this. And New Orleans cash money is way more respected than no limit. You can look at this, go figure it out. If they did it, gas P being smarter. They did it in Vegas because now you got to see it as neutral. You get what I'm saying? He knew I'm gonna come in here prepared. Baby, no more than likely gonna come in here throwing some shit together. We're gonna sh, we're gonna show, we're gonna end in this right now. Who was the best label? We're gonna shit on them. Same thing Locks did with the diplomats. You feel what I'm saying? It's the same exact thing. Even with that, people from New York love Locks. I ain't saying they ain't love diplomats, they do love them. But here goes my thing. If they would have done that versus, let's say LA, the diplomats would have got off even better. Even though it was disorganized, they would have got off better because they got more what nationwide hits. So knowing P knowing that, let's do this. I gotta come in here prepared. You know, cash money didn't. Man, it was so much. Man, they didn't even play, even with Juvenile. I didn't even hear, huh? That was his first being single. You feel me? What? Damn it. You know, so it's a lot of shit got left in there. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of shit got left in there. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, that's just how it went. But you know. So I'm gonna end it up, man, so we can get up out here, man. What you been bumping, bro? What you been listening to?

SPEAKER_01 55:03

Shit, man. I've been bumping, bro, that Jay Worthy, bro. I told you. Once upon a time. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 55:12

I can't even say shit now, man, because I'm usually I got something different, so we on the same wavelength. That's why I've been bumping on Jay Worthy. Part one and two. Man, Worthy, my dog, man. Whenever I get a concert, because I went to the Freddy Gars concert uh two weekends ago. When Jay Worthy comes anywhere near his motherfucker, I'm gone.

SPEAKER_01 55:29

It's my dog. Like, bro, like the features, bro. He the features is like. Him and Westside gun. Like, I'm like, Why? I'm like, I'm like, damn, like, how you do that? Like, whoa, what? Him and Westside gun. To me, B? To me. Hold on, hold on. Mac, hold on, Mac 10?

SPEAKER_02 55:49

Like, bro, all that, bro. Could we play it? Nah, we can't, because they might flag us. Be legit. On the first side, man, he even brought G Wiz. That's for look, I'm showing my A G Wiz from uh the dog pound and shit, man. Um like would they flag us though? Yeah, they might. That's why I want to do it. You feel me? But what?

SPEAKER_01 56:09

Spotify would flag us?

SPEAKER_02 56:10

Nah, I don't know who. I ain't gonna even fuck with it. But um, long story short, uh like they went.

SPEAKER_01 56:19

Man, bro, this nigga got George Clinton.

SPEAKER_02 56:22

Yeah. Yeah. George Clinton.

SPEAKER_01 56:25

Yeah, George Clinton.

SPEAKER_02 56:26

Yeah, power in the funk. That's like DJ Quick doing a beat. That's one of my favorite out the whole double this for the homies. That's my shit. Thundercats, bro. Listen, I'm gonna say this and end it. West Side Gunn and Jay Worthy, when it comes to creating a project, I don't think nobody do it better than them. They know what beats to select and they know who to put on the beats and how to put the beast. Putting Spice uh one on that motherfucker. Like he knew what he was doing. And that's why I say them type of cats need to be in hot executive producer, uh executive, uh, not producer, but executive uh spots in major record labels, because they don't get that talent.

Versus: No Limit Vs Cash Money

SPEAKER_01 57:07

If they let them do them, if they let them do them, if they let them do them, I'm gonna do to be a note places about it.

SPEAKER_02 57:13

Yeah, you know, they gonna be able to get what you need to get done. Because them brothers, when it comes to the understanding how to put a project together, them brothers, how you doing? You see little mama came? Hey, we celebrities, man. You see Lil Mama Kane wave at us, man? Yeah, they stick a butt. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So, like, you know, that's what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna leave it at that. They know how to put music. I can tell this is my only gripe about music right now. I love music. It's my first love, gonna be my last love. That's my first vice. A lot of people don't know how to put projects together, they just put shit together.

SPEAKER_01 57:42

Man, you just got the wrong people in the wrong places, bro. Like, like it is what it is, bro. Like, if we could really get the true musicians like in the places where they need to be, bro, like our music is weaponized, bro. So like as long as those people in place, bro, this is gonna be weaponized, bro. And the people like these guys, bro, they gonna be able to make music, bro. But they just gonna be able to make music. You know what I'm saying? And the people who tap in, tap in. You understand what I'm saying? Like, when it comes to currency, bro, like uh, I was just telling um a cat, I say, bro, like, like currency, bro. Like, he understands the algorithm, he understands the system, bro. Because like, bro, once you start doing certain numbers, bro, okay, you can do you can do little clubs, bro. You can do little small arenas and shit like that, you know. Bro, when you start feeling stadiums, bro, if you feel it like a large bro, like don't people come in to talk to you, bro.

SPEAKER_03 58:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:43

Like, hey, hey, um, I see you just filled that stadium. Like, hey, what's up with that? Like, we ain't getting that, we ain't get our cut, baby.

SPEAKER_02 58:52

We see your bro, we see your power, your influence.

SPEAKER_01 58:54

Like, like, what's going on? Like, we need some of that. Like, you can't be so when it comes to like bro, it be certain song, I'll be like, man, this nigga ain't making no video to this. He ain't he he not.

SPEAKER_02 59:06

Makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 59:06

Because if I make the video to it, and then I get that, like, damn, bro, you gotta make music, but then you gotta like just make it, bro, and like only do uh enough with it to like make sure you're comfortable. Like as much as you could do with it, you can't, because once you that following coming on people, like, you know, you get the bumping, bro, it's a problem, bro. Yeah. You know, like people might say, oh man, it's he is no, bro. It's serious, bro. Like, the influence is key, bro.

SPEAKER_02 59:39

Oh, hey, like we're gonna end on that one. What you just said. My man Shaq just dropped the gym, a real gym. Influence is key. Always remember that. We're gonna touch back with y'all, man. We appreciate everybody coming in. Call to action, as always. Hey, get in there, man. Subscribe, become subscribers, become supporters, man. Keep dropping. Them DMs. Hey, we love it. That's what keep us going and keep giving y'all quality product. So we is we hustlers, hustling all different ways. It's quality product. This is how we keep it going. So we appreciate all the love. May I go tap in, run them numbers up. We everywhere YouTube, Spotify, Apple Music, iHeartRadio, wherever you can get your podcast, we on that platform. So we love y'all, y'all. Keep it going. We out.