Boujee Blondes
Boujee Blondes is presented by Melissa Clarke and Simone Grace.Join the ladies for girly chats full of fun and laughter - chatting about life, relationships and much more in a comfortable safe place. women empowerment and sisterhood is the sense of belonging that this podcast interprets. the atmosphere hopes to provide a safe place for everyone to go for advice whilst feeling accepted and understood. Melissa and Simone share their own life experiences which entails lots of blissful, loving and embarrassing moments but also mistakes throughout life. Speaking to diverse groups of people from different walks of life on various subjects. A weekly episode not to be missed - every Tuesday on all major podcast platforms. If you would like to contact the girls please email Boujeeblondespodcast@gmail.com
Boujee Blondes
Can men and women just be friends? #66
Join the girls on a light-hearted journey as they return from a short break, sharing tales of our morning makeup mishaps and pondering the holiday season's early birds. Melissa's back, feeling spry after some downtime, and we're here to sprinkle some laughter over our holiday woes and woohoos. From catching colds in October to the stress of festive season planning, there's plenty to chuckle about as we ease back into our chatty routine.
But that's not all! They tackle a topic that often dances on the line of controversy: can men and women really just be friends? Drawing from personal stories and cultural tales, they explore the intricate dynamics that come into play. Whether it's navigating workplace boundaries or deciphering misinterpreted signals at the gym, the girls unpack why trust and clear limits are essential. There candid discussion aims to offer fresh perspectives and encourage a thoughtful reflection on your own friendships.
Lastly, they embrace the seasons of life, sharing stories of resilience and growth. Picture this: standing in front of a massive audience, nerves jangling, then taking a deep breath and speaking your truth. It's daunting but oh-so-rewarding. They invite you to reflect on your own comfort zones and consider the power of community and mindset in achieving personal milestones. With a sprinkle of inspiration, they're here to remind you that with the right support and a dash of courage, you too can conquer life's ever-evolving challenges.
It's the Bougie Blondes podcast with Melissa and Simone, available on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. Now let's get bougie. Hi, I'm Melissa. Hi, I'm Simone. Our podcast is serving you.
Speaker 2:bestie vibes, we are just two country girls chatting about all things we struggle with daily life.
Speaker 1:And, of course, talking about certain issues that some people are afraid to speak about. We give it to you real, while having crack along the way. Remember, these are just our opinions, gals, don't take us too seriously. We're just giving you some best friend advice.
Speaker 2:The bitches are back. Tell a friend to tell a friend, we're back. Happy days, yeah, happy days. We just had a little bit of a break. Melissa was a little bit unwell so she needed some time to heal and recover, rejuvenate and come back with a bang.
Speaker 1:I felt like a catfish there until literally five months ago, until I came onto this podcast. I was looking at myself and, like I did not look like this this morning you know what it is you need to.
Speaker 2:I always feel like I feel 20 times better when I put makeup on, when I'm feeling shitty like and just oh my god isn't it a real?
Speaker 1:thing though like even when you're like, I feel like you just feel worse. When you like, you just don't look good, yeah, don't. You know, like even though I still feel like crap, but I still like feel better crap, do you know? Yeah like, yeah, I would have scared away now the whole population if the scene meets this morning.
Speaker 2:Oh, my god, she's just exaggerating to the Pepsi Max here, because she looks unbelievable without makeup anyway no, today I didn't.
Speaker 1:Now, I have to say, I was like like literally something resurrecting from the walking dead.
Speaker 2:Now, the last two weeks, at least we're in spooky season, you get away with it, huh you get away with it, it's fine.
Speaker 1:I said Simone there at me earlier. I was like no, simone, I actually wear my makeup today because, like, this is what?
Speaker 2:like actual footage of me it's like, yeah, but you just give yourself that little bit of umph, don't you?
Speaker 1:when you yeah, a little bit of umph umph. So Halloween you had a lovely. Where was it? An event, was it?
Speaker 2:no, it was in one of my friend's houses actually. Yeah, it was good. But you know what? I put my hands up and say it lads, like I get the fear of walking outside in a Halloween costume. I just genuinely I cannot do it. I feel such an ick. I give myself the ick when I'm dressed up like that. I don't know why Some people love it. Some people are all for it, get excitement months and month like beforehand picking out a costume. I'm just like, genuinely, I cannot like. I had it on me going to the house and then we were leaving to go to like an artist afterwards and I was like, right, respectfully, I am changing out of this and getting into a dress, because I cannot go outside looking like this. I actually can't.
Speaker 1:I think it depends on the setting, though doesn't like if you're going to like a fancy dress like like party or a venue like, because everyone's dressed like that everyone was dressed up when we got there.
Speaker 2:I still couldn't. I just I couldn't. No, I don't know what. What it is like I was wearing tights and all, like it wasn't like I've seen a lot worse, no, but I was like.
Speaker 1:I can't. I haven't dressed up for Halloween in like years and every year I'm like I may like prepare a Halloween costume and I just feel like, honestly, right, I'm not jinxing myself. But every October I feel like I'm sick and I don't know what it is and I don't know if I'm manifesting it or not.
Speaker 2:It's like after the summer, like I don't know, I just get sick it's also it's because it's that time of the year as well to like, get like frozen icky bicky stuff.
Speaker 1:I feel, like I need to be wrapped in cotton wool and just like kept for October, like, just like, keep me warm in a cupboard somewhere, like or something keep me warm in the cupboard locker in the hot press but no, next year I'm going to actually be organized and do a Halloween costume because, like I do, like, I feel like Halloween isn't big over here, though really like no, it's not like to be fair, like I haven't dressed up since before COVID like until this year, like last year, I was here.
Speaker 2:No, I didn't even do Halloween. Like it's working during the week only for, like this thing was on the Saturday, like it's like okay, fair enough, but I just I'm still not that much of it like I'm a Christmas gal yeah, you are Christmas gal.
Speaker 1:I feel like you're like Mariah Carey fucking defrosting at the moment.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, you love Christmas like it's even your eyes like yeah, I glow at Christmas like I've this aura about me.
Speaker 1:I'm just like yeah, you're like, it's like you get a new glow about you at Christmas. You know they like to say pregnant women get the glow, someone gets a Christmas glow. Yeah, I get a Christmas glow. Or I'm just like, I'm just stressed at Christmas. I'm like, oh my god. But yeah, I can't believe. Like, like there's people, but they're I'm nearly sure right now don't get me wrong I'm nearly sure I'm seeing someone in with their Christmas decorations up already. Well, like, and I kind of I was like, are they, are they Halloween? I was like, no, they're not Christmas. I'm sorry that when it's too early to up your Christmas decorations, because I think the first November is too early.
Speaker 2:Melissa, it's never too early. Plus matter of the fact is, if I was at home now, the minute our Halloween decorations are taken down at home, my mom is like oh yeah, man, all these Christmas decorations are going up, like now. Like now, and I love it, like even when I was in secondary school, like coming home from school and like the fire is on and there's a Christmas movie on in the background and the Christmas tree is up.
Speaker 1:It's just, there's just something about it yeah, I think the only year I put them up early was, I think, during that COVID period, because I was at home and I was fucking depressed and I was like here I might be depressed with Christmas tree, but other than that I'm like a December. I think. If, if he came home from work now and I Christmas decorations up, the chap would like be like are you okay? Like, do you need?
Speaker 2:to see someone.
Speaker 1:I need to find this one in but no, maybe I will put them up early this year, like when, when is normal now? Like because used to be like the 8th of December, where I do think now people is like, like it used to be like the end of November, but now I feel like it's getting earlier and earlier, isn't it? Yeah, sorry, yeah, I think I'll plan for the end of November. Maybe we'll go at the end of November. I don't think I can pull up any earlier now. I just get like the ache of the dust everywhere. Do you know what I mean? Like it's very, very clean around the Christmas tree.
Speaker 2:Like yeah, to be fair, you know, when you take down all your decorations and stuff like that and you give the house a good scrub because, like you're getting in around all the decorations and stuff like that, it is a bit like, yeah, I don't know. That's why I do love the smell of a real Christmas tree, but I always get the Yankee candle, you know the Christmas tree candle. But I just have a thing with fake Christmas trees because nothing comes off them like the other ones.
Speaker 1:They look real, the other ones that actually look real and I love the ones that kind of like the frosted kind of. You know, the ones with the frosted like tips, like the white and stuff on them.
Speaker 2:They're fab how did we get into a topic of speaking about Christmas? This is how excited I actually genuinely get, lads, because I know, I think we might have a touch of ADHD.
Speaker 1:We might have ADHD, do we?
Speaker 2:we're undiagnosed. God love us. They never done nothing for us yeah.
Speaker 1:So if anyone actually puts up their Christmas tree, like this week, we need to know because, yeah, yeah, yeah, I need to know because, yeah, yeah, yeah, like I, just I need to know, and Santy and everything do you want to just go into um? Oh yeah, about the male, male and females oh yeah, about the male.
Speaker 2:Male and females, yeah, or do you want to talk about, like, are we first or do you want to do that last?
Speaker 1:um, I don't mind what we're going to the male and female, I think yeah, yeah, okay, I'll let you introduce it there while I try find my drive.
Speaker 2:Let me do my yoke. So, on this week's topic of the week we have, can males and females be friends? A debate, can they?
Speaker 1:I think, see, I think there's such a stigmatism towards this where people are like no, they can't Like. Is that a myth that male and females can't be friends Like? I think they can.
Speaker 2:I personally think they can, because I just don't understand why, like you have colleagues, you have people that you work with, you have acquaintances, like how can you not be friends with a male? Like coming from a female perspective, like it just it's healthy. Like it's healthy to have like friends with the opposite sex. Like it's it's just, I don't know, like some people like I do get that girls can and men can be very jealous. Like I do always hear, like like men saying, oh, he's friends with you for the wrong reasons, like he doesn't want to be your friend, and I'm like what? Like?
Speaker 1:yeah, I think that's the problem. I feel like males feel have more an opinion saying that females and males can't be friends because they're like oh well, they have an ulterior motive, like the lad always fancies the girl and they're just like and I think it's kind of like based like that in films as well, where it's like they're friend zoned.
Speaker 1:But I don't. I think males can be friends of females. Like when I was growing up I had like a really good male friend like for years and I was in secondary school like do you know what I mean? And we used to always talk and everything that just kind of like even flirty banter or anything like that.
Speaker 2:Don't get me wrong. There'll be passing comments. There always is in life. It's just men in general, it's just the way they are. But like I just don't think there's anything malicious about it. Do you know that kind of way? I do know that some people can go above and beyond, Like I do get it, but I do think it's healthy personally, Like I do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so do I. I think it's needed, like Do you know what I mean. I think it's actually quite, it's actually good to benefit your own sexual relationships, because I think you learn more from the opposite sex do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:definitely, like you always have that, like you always have a chat, like if you're seeing somebody, like you're always going to go to a man, be like, oh, what do you think? Like, what's your opinion, and ask a woman's perspective as well, like I, just I personally don't, like I don't know. Like there's a lot of people that are like, say, in relationships and stuff like that, and they don't like their partner, like you know, in a circle amongst the opposite sex, like they just don't like it at all. But is that down to like a trust thing?
Speaker 1:I think so, like I. I think so. It's like security it could be. Do you think, though, like if you had a boyfriend and they had, like a best friend female, would you think it would bother you?
Speaker 2:no, if I'm being honest, it depends how like I think if they were already there yeah, like I think if they were already there, maybe from like childhood and stuff yeah, like they know past relationships, like sexual relationships then, yeah like happy days, but like I do feel like sometimes, if you show a lot of bitterness or jealousy amongst like your partner and say a female or a male friend, then it's just basically pushing them away and setting something in their head to say, oh well, maybe there could be this connection that they're worried about. Maybe what if there is a connection and it's driving them to overthink, and then it could cause cheating, it could cause like a sexual relationship out of something that you're you're insecure about because I don't, I don't know, I just don't think. If you're a person that's like do you know, you're secure, you love yourself, like you don't, you're not jealous, you're not bitter, like you're happy, you're content in your relationship, then why would you feel the need to not want your spouse to interact with the opposite sex?
Speaker 1:yeah, and as well I think it's like healthy to have relationships outside of your own, like sexual relationship do you know what I? Mean, and then it's not like there's so many like work colleague friends and stuff now as well, do you know? I mean, I think it depends, though, like you wouldn't like, like so if they were a childhood friend, right, you wouldn't be like that much concerned about.
Speaker 1:But say, if they started like being friends with someone in work and then started going on like on cinema, like dates, I think that would be a bit weird yeah, no, that's not okay yeah, that's like but like I, think, as in friendship, like having like connections and chats and stuff connections outside of, like your partner with another, with the opposite sex, I just think is healthy, like yeah, definitely, well, I actually have one, because this actually, just as we're on topic, someone said this to me the other day.
Speaker 2:So basically someone that I know really well, his girlfriend, basically you know somebody that she works with, um, and she came in to work the other last week or whatever maybe, and she said that she was going like for a lunch date with one of the guys in the office, but like outside, of their like group.
Speaker 2:Bear in mind she has a husband, he has a wife what? But like thought nothing of this scenario. Like thought was perfectly fine because they're just work colleagues. But in my opinion I'm like, why would you set up a date outside of that? Now that I just don't get yeah, like if you're in a group community, right, yeah, and both of you are in relationships, you're married off or whatever it may be, why do you need to leave your little group circle in work to go out for lunch? It's yeah to me.
Speaker 1:That's where I'm like okay, there's a line that cannot be crossed yeah, like I feel like there has to be boundaries between the male, like and or opposite sex, whatever friend or like friendships, if two other people are in relationships, like you have to respect the partners as well, like you know. I mean it's it's a complicated one, isn't it like? Yeah, isn't it like it can get a bit tricky, like a bit messy, yeah, if everyone's not on the same page, you know yeah, no, it just makes no sense.
Speaker 2:Well, I used to work for this company and I'm obviously not going to say what industry it was in, but it was a couple of years ago and I don't know if I actually mentioned this on here before. I don't think I did anyway. So they go on the intercom, right, and they're like we have an issue. Can everyone go to the boardroom? Like la la la. So we all go to the boardroom and you could see it in in the director's face, like even when he was speaking about it, like he was scarlet, because it's obviously like it's like what the hell is going on. You know, this kind of so big investigation went involved. It just got really messy anyway. So, basically in the corridor and it's a very clean working environment like proper, like legit company and right, basically as you come out of like the bathrooms or whatever, like there's like a corridor and they're after finding like a johnny full, like after coming out of someone's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just don't know why, log it in the bin or do whatever. But yeah, they're after finding it and they had it and they put it in plastic and like they were showing it or whatever. So, like someone there, like in that meeting room was obviously two people um were involved in this and then they found out like a couple of weeks after, went back on the cameras and the two dirty dogs basically went into a disabled bathroom done the deed and they were both married. So yeah, there's a lot of things that go on in the workplace, so I do understand but there is, isn't there?
Speaker 1:like do you feel that?
Speaker 2:like a lot of affairs happen, though in the workplace, especially when it's like a mixed sex, like especially big companies, like yeah, like sometimes, yes, but like you can't always say that it's going to happen, like, or you can't trust somebody and this, that, the other, because you're never going to get anywhere in life like that, like you aren't. And that's why I always say like men are going to be men, they're going to be 30, they're going to be and don't get me wrong, women can be the exact same, but from a man's perspective, like they're a group of lads, they're working together, they're just going to show off this, that and the other. Like let them do their thing, let them flirt, but once it doesn't go overboard. But then again I am, I'm kind of like, if I even saw that, like I wouldn't even look at a man that's doing that, because I respectfully wouldn't want that to be my partner, so you wouldn't go there in general. But I don't know, it's just like yeah, no, if I'm being honest.
Speaker 1:I think it depends on.
Speaker 1:It depends on the person, doesn't it? Yeah, definitely right, so it says. Daily experience suggests that non-romantic friendships between males and females are not only possible, but common Men and women live, work and play side by side and generally seem to be able to avoid spontaneously sleeping together. However, the possibility remains that this is apparently platonic. Coexistence is merely a facade, an elaborate dance covering up countless sexual impulses bubbling just beneath the surface. New research suggests that there may be some truth to this possibility, that we may think we're capable of being just friends, but members of the opposite sex. But the opportunity, or perceived opportunity, for romance is often lurking just around the corner, waiting to pounce at the most um in moment. So like that's saying that it is and it isn't that we're always like that's saying that basically, on the surface we're saying that, yeah, we could be friends, but there's always like that thought underneath of could it just be more? Yeah, do you know?
Speaker 1:I think I think when you go into that, I don't, I'd actually love to get someone on that maybe were like friends for years and now we're actually in a couple. Like could it ruin the friendship though? Like do you know me? Like I do feel like some things are just friendship, like do you know? Yeah, definitely yeah, but yeah it's. Yeah, I wonder, like, is it a thing where you're like oh, we got on so well and you know we bounce and gel off each other kind of thing? Yeah, it's mad.
Speaker 2:I mean, I feel like that. How will I explain it? Like there's always going to be something in your head, like if you are close with someone, say, and you did have a bit of something say that yeah, you could wonder.
Speaker 2:But I always say, if you're meant to be with someone, you're going to be with them. Like you are Like, but don't ruin a relationship just to test the waters and for something that might not actually ever happen. Like, yeah, do you like what? What benefit you're going to get out of it? Like you're not. And I know some people can be so eager and like, just intrigued to the fact of the matter. But I'm just like, why would you actually genuinely ruin something good that you have with somebody just to test the waters out with, with the unknown? Like if? If you are I always say if you are feeling them doubts or there's something triggering you to say, oh, what if this could have happened with this person, you're call it a day because you shouldn't be having thoughts about someone else. If, if you're deeply happy in a relationship.
Speaker 1:That's just my opinion no, I agree actually with that and I feel like as well, like as human beings and not just even in like sexual relationships like we always have curiosity and, like you know, we're always thinking what, if and this and that. But I do think, if, if you are in a position where you're constantly questioning it and, like that, you're not happy with what you have, then there's something that you need to ask yourself. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:because your cause and effect. You're going to hurt. Your actions are going to hurt other people. Do you know so? This says. The results suggest larger gender differences and how male and female experience opposite sex friendships. Men are much more attracted to their female friends than vice versa. So I'm not surprised by that, because, like, men are just little horny animals, aren't they?
Speaker 2:aren't they?
Speaker 1:true be told and as well as like that, I think females like to develop more of like an emotional connection, I suppose first and then men. Obviously, you know they're, you know they're men. Men were more likely, more men were also more likely than women to think that their opposite sex friends were attracted to them. So men think that the free. Yeah, a clearly misguided belief. In fact, men's estimates of how attractive they were to their females friends has virtually nothing to do with how these women actually felt and almost everything to do with how the men themselves felt. Basically, males assumed that any romantic attraction they experienced was mutual that's interesting and were blind to the actual level of romantic interest felt by their female friends like you know what it's actually so hard.
Speaker 2:It really is so, so hard to like, even have like a friendship connection with a male. At times it really is because now you're just kind of constantly thinking they think I fancy them, they think I want them like, but you're just being nice isn't it mad how their minds work, though? Yeah, do you know what I had to stop doing being friendly with people in the gym?
Speaker 2:yeah, because people they're like sorry, using this way no no, no where are you from little small talk, and next minute they're like oh, can I have it? I'm just like you know what. I just don't even make eye contact it's easier to be a bitch.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you now I've learnt this.
Speaker 2:But the thing is I don't have a resting bitch face. I don't think I have a face that people are like come talk with your counsellor, take a seat, tell me your problem, because I'm walking to a fucking supermarket and Betsy or Bobby could approach me and tell me their whole life story.
Speaker 1:I think I have a bit of a resting bitch face, but not on purpose, like it's more so the fact that like you, because when I'm at work I'm like obviously my authentic self and I'm like when I'm one-to-one with a person, I'm really like bubbly and that's just naturally how I am. Yeah, but when I'm out in public I try to avoid people talking to me, so I literally just kind of like subconsciously put a wall around myself because I just don't want to talk to anyone and it's not being straight ahead and you're like it's not being rude, but it's more like I have things to do.
Speaker 1:I just don't have time now to be like that, being mother Teresa to people, do you know? So next time you go to the gym, just do the rest and bitch face. I'm telling you, you'll get your workout done quicker, you'll get in and out, simone, and you won't be talking to people.
Speaker 1:It works yeah, I'm gonna have to do it literally it says here, women too were blind to the mindset of their opposite sex friends because females generally were not attracted to their male friends. They assumed that this lack of attraction was mutual. As a result, men consistently overestimated the level of attraction felt by their female friends. So basically, the moral of the story is that females are never really attracted to male friends and the male friends think that female friends are attracted to them. And yeah, so now it's like it's after switching my mindset of like actually can we be friends?
Speaker 2:yeah, literally, because I always think there's going to be more yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 1:It depends on the person, though. So, like I think like a very emotionally mature male would be able to be friends with a female yeah, definitely, yeah, boys will be boys, that's all I say boys will be boys.
Speaker 1:But you know, I'd like a male friend, though I really would like a male friend because, like I feel like as well, growing up I always kind of like especially as a teenager I always kind of got on with males better yeah, to be fair, like they are, because they're not bitchy like you have a crack with them.
Speaker 2:Like they're always off the draft you know what.
Speaker 1:I mean like there's there's no drama with men yeah, I feel like I actually have the best fun and crack with males.
Speaker 2:Yeah because I don't know, like they genuinely don't talk about people or they don't bitch about people, like it's just a nice environment to be around, I suppose, you know, instead of just being around a bunch of bitches because girls can be bitches like we can't, but like I don't know. I do have like a lot of male friends, but I wouldn't like ever look at them in that way, if anything. Like I look at them as like my brothers and like I look at them as like my brothers. Yeah, I hope they look like I know that, like the friends that I have, like they look at me like a sister, unless they want to tell me something yeah, I'll get a load of DMs now later, simone I love you no no, no
Speaker 1:it's just brotherly, such a love I do think that like, it is like if, if a male is emotionally mature, they're not gonna like. I think they know their boundaries and they know they appreciate the level of friendship. Do you know what I mean? So like, but I do feel like you have the best cracker boys, though like I think it's because you can be silly, I think it brings you back to like that like childlike state. Do you know?
Speaker 2:yeah, you know, they're like messers, like you know, but you know what we need people to write in. We want people to write in and men especially about their opinion on this, because obviously like it's in, and men especially about their opinion on this because obviously, like it's it's the fingers are pointing on you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we need so. We need males of Ireland listen up. We need to know if you are in a friendship with a girl for a while, or even like if it's a new friendship, do you have feelings for her? Have you had feelings for her for a while and would you ever tell her? Or genuinely, are you like best friends, like we need the stats on this. We need to know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's anonymous, it always is not even just in Ireland, though. We want it, like all our listeners yeah, everywhere, not just Ireland.
Speaker 1:Everywhere, all across the globe. We're putting the message out there. We need to know are you.
Speaker 2:Even you've been in marriage yeah, we need to know.
Speaker 1:Would you like to take that friendship further? What is stopping you, or is it generally just like brotherly, sisterly love? Yeah, we need to know. We'll get flooded now with like loads of dilemmas next week.
Speaker 2:You're like oh my god, what have we done? What have we done?
Speaker 1:we're causing like world war three marriage is breaking up so we're going to do a little roundup, like what have I done for the last four weeks? Like, has anything wild happened to you in the last four weeks? Because, like, it's been four weeks since we chatted on the pod.
Speaker 2:I know, like I feel like this is like the second long break that we've ever had in the two years that we're doing it like it is and like obviously you needed the time. You're only getting back on your feet, so we wanted you obviously to feel good and have the energy to bounce back.
Speaker 1:I was in Amsterdam, so that was. That was all go because Kate was in the marathon. But it's a weird place, amsterdam. I'm not a lover of it, it's a weird place.
Speaker 2:Amsterdam, it's a weird place. Amsterdam. I'm not a lover of it. It's a weird place. Amsterdam, it's a weird place, yeah, I don't know, it's just I just like.
Speaker 1:First of all, I don't think their food is great over there. There's just a smell of weed everywhere, like is there a need?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I feel like people go there just to do that, though to be fair, like.
Speaker 1:I know, I obviously do like, but I just I don't get it like. I just, you know, I mean I just.
Speaker 2:I could think of nothing worse than feeling like that 24 7?
Speaker 1:I just think no yeah, I don't know just even like it's. Yeah, it's grand, like some people love it, like Jesus Christ, some people go there all the time, but I just think it's a bit overrated. I don't know, it's not for you to smoke. I suppose if you're into smoking weed all the time, you could love it. But like I don't know, like it's grand. Not really lover of the food, I think it's rotten and I don't know, it's just it's not my place.
Speaker 2:Anyway, let's just say that but overall did you have a nice trip no, what not?
Speaker 1:no, not that I didn't have a nice trip, it was all go. So literally the whole trip was based around keith doing his maritain. So like we literally got there, um, and then we had to go, like collect his bib, um, and like this is at the starting point when I got really sick. So like I was trying to let on, I wasn't sick for the whole weekend. Like I was so sick, um, and then he had the marathon the next day.
Speaker 1:But like I was like right, I need to get up to the 10K mark before he gets around to it. So like I mean, I sprinted up to this 10K mark and like I was like on death's door and I was wearing this big coat because my friend was like it's cold over there. So I was like, right, I'll bring a big coat. I was like 10K mark and luckily, just like up, he came around the corner because I knew it was the only point I was going to see him because, like it was too far out for me to go anywhere else. And he was like get a video of me. So like Melissa nearly killed her lungs trying to get this 10k mark to get a beckon video of him.
Speaker 1:Like oh my gosh oh yeah, but it's such a good achievement though yeah, no, unreal, he did unbelievable, like, but like I think there was one lad there, simone, who did it in two hours and four minutes. Sorry, yeah, a full martin, two hours and four minutes like do they stop is what I need to know.
Speaker 2:Like do they stop?
Speaker 1:like, stop for a second no, these boys are doing two hours and four minutes. Don't stop. They're like doing that under, like they must be doing a two, something a kilometer, like that's.
Speaker 2:They're sprinting yeah, never I would pass out, pass out. But it's all in the training.
Speaker 1:I suppose you know, yeah like serious, like do you know what I mean? But no, apart from I have actually. Just I was in the middle of training for my half marathon and then, sure, obviously now it's gone to the back burner because obviously the illness, but hopefully, now like yeah, I'll get back there, but like I honestly feel like it's mad, though, how quick your fitness drops, so when you stop, isn't it yeah?
Speaker 2:it really is like when something just pushes you back, it's like you take one step back and it's 10. It really is like I totally get it. Like I get it, but you will bounce back, don't worry. It Like I get it, but you will bounce back, don't worry, you'll be fine. I know, but you know what?
Speaker 1:When you do get like this sick, because obviously, like obviously I don't really know what's wrong with me at the moment, so like it is like that worrying stage but you do really start to appreciate then, like how much your health is so important yeah much your health is so important, isn't it mad?
Speaker 2:I always say it like it's definitely, most definitely, is like it really is, like I just could think of nothing worse than just not have been able to have the energy. Like you know, everyone gets sick.
Speaker 1:We all know what it's like, but it's when you're actually in the peak of it that a really good film and like it's like that, when it's going on for so many weeks, like I don't know, my heart goes out to like people who do have chronic illnesses and stuff like, because it's like not only is it like physically draining your body, but it's like it's mentally draining like you know what I mean like it's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'm in my healing girl era at the moment, so I don't really know what like that is, but I'm just kind of taking a step back a little bit, like and slowing down, even though you know me it's winter, so just give yourself the time to re-battery like you're on charge after a minute charge me up by.
Speaker 1:I'm like uh, one of those electric cars she on charge charge me up by yeah, no. So I'm going to just I'm going to focus more now the next couple of weeks is I'm going to start journaling more, because I feel like if you let it out on paper, it's like releasing. Um, I'm just trying to like, I feel like I'm constantly in the future. Do you feel like that? Like I'm constantly like just thinking about ahead instead of just thinking about today, but that's the thing we do, and it's normal to feel that way.
Speaker 2:Like you know, it's good that you have, like you know, drives like. If you didn't like, then you're just kind of stuck in a rut. Do you know what I mean? So it is good, but sometimes you just need to like, take a little step back and be like okay, there's only so much that you can actually do.
Speaker 2:Like yeah there is, like I know we all want better, we want to progress. Like of course it's human to feel that way. But like when your body is actually genuinely telling you that you need to slow down, we, we don't need to listen to it like we do and I know we, but we both say it to each other a lot but like it just gets to say to them when you get a little bit of a scare like you genuinely scared me, like I was like what is going on? Do you know? So like I just think, read you up, mate, relax, and it will all come together. It always works out.
Speaker 1:Like everything always works out in the end, like it's actually I do believe that, like I do believe that like I don't know maybe it's just me being deluded now but I do feel that, like we get sick for a reason, like I feel like it's it, we're meant to stop and slow down and reassess and for some reason I do feel like that maybe this could be a bit of burnout, but I, my body, is just like reacting like fucking crazy. It's like my nervous system is just like they're like she's ignoring it. Let's give her hand tremors now. Let's make her dizzy. Let's make her fall over. Yeah, okay, she's still not listening. Let's make her half blind. Oh look, she's still not fucking listening. Let's give her something else.
Speaker 2:I know it is mad, though to be fair like it is mad how it does affect, but like, if you don't stop and just chill the fuck out literally we're like no, god is a sprinkling more illness on me.
Speaker 1:But like right, let's give her this. She's still not listening. Oh look, she's still out for a fucking run. Let's give her this now. Does she ever stop?
Speaker 2:you're straight like you'll get struck with lightning and you'll still be jogging along the road it'll give you more energy, I feel.
Speaker 1:I'd probably still keep running if I got struck with it yeah, you would.
Speaker 2:This is the problem. This is the problem.
Speaker 1:I'd be like this bastard is not stopping me from completing this race. I'd still keep going. Oh god, yeah, we're just in. We're in healing mode now. But actually I was listening to. I was on Sarah Wolf's mindset um seminar the other day and she made if anyone's actually um not following Sarah Wolf, go listen to her. We should actually get her on the podcast. But um, she has. She had this thing up um where, like, we live life by seasons. So some some weeks we might be in like that summer, like energy. Some weeks might be like in winter energy. Some weeks might be in autumn or like spring. So you kind of have to see how am I feeling right now? So like you could be needing to be in like the winter phase or you need to slow down, so like basically, we can't live in summer season all year long. You know which is a good way of looking at things, I feel yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2:I love Costco yeah, it's good, isn't it like yeah, no, I love it yeah, yeah, it's nice, isn't it?
Speaker 1:because it kind of like it kind of relaxes you. You know that sometimes you're just like, oh, I actually just don't have energy for people right now, so we're just gonna like, yeah, coop in and, just, you know, take a couple of weeks to this. So, yeah, because you need to build back up that energy for, like, the summer energy. So, yeah, it's actually a really good thing, like how to look at things.
Speaker 2:I literally needed all the energy in the world the last past two or three weeks, like so much went on. It's not even funny. I my nan here, my grand aunt, and then, like a couple of days after that, I had to like speak in Abu Dhabi, which was crazy, it was something so out of my comfort zone. You know what they say.
Speaker 1:Do something every day that you're afraid that might kill you, so congratulations on that.
Speaker 2:Like that was unreal yeah, speaking in front of that many people is terrifying and being recorded and like it's just, but it's such a good experience, like it's something that I never thought I'd see myself do, and now I feel like how did you feel, like getting up on stage, like were you really nervous?
Speaker 2:Like when we were rehearsing the night before, like I was kind of like, oh my God, like how am I going to do this? But you know what it is? It's because all familiar faces were sat there watching me and focused just on me, where it's like, and there was lights on. So when you're actually on stage and there's like thousands of people or whatever in an audience and they're unfamiliar faces, you the stage part just goes. And it was like that I just kept connecting with the audience and just kept rambling, even though, like I had a script, I definitely went over the audience and just kept rambling, even though, like I had a script, I definitely went over the script and just kept like reconnecting with the audience and speaking to them, which I thought I could never do.
Speaker 2:That's why I was so focused on this script. But it's just like little. Did I know, like when I was 13, rattling off a poem in a classroom and getting like stage fright in front of like a little classroom, that I would be speaking in front of that many people? Do you know what I mean? So it's like, yes, it's, it's crazy, but I'm glad I done it, because I feel like now that I'll definitely do it more yeah and like isn't it, mad Simone?
Speaker 1:though, like, how, like, how important it is though, like pushing yourself to be uncomfortable to get comfortable. Yeah, and that's exactly what you did, like. When I seen like, because obviously I know you're you're going to do it, but when I actually seen like, I was like oh my god, this is a lot bigger than even you described it to me. I was like yeah, wow. I was like she's actually standing up there in front of that many people.
Speaker 2:Um, but yeah, well, so I always say, as well, it's who you surround yourself with. Like, yeah, it genuinely is like if you're like in an environment of people where they're like pushing and striving for you to grow as a person, like or you know your friends or whatever, like they're telling you to go get it, like you need to do it, like you have to do it, like then you're just going to be like like I had no other choice. They were like well, you're doing it, like you're doing it. You have no other choice. Because if someone were to say to me oh look, do you want to do this?
Speaker 1:but it doesn't matter if you don't want to do it, I'd be like no, never, goodbye you know, yeah, like you you have to be, you have to surround yourself, like people have to encourage you and like I think, when other people believe in you as well, then you start to believe in yourself.
Speaker 1:I think it's that's why it's so important to have like that close network of friends and colleagues surrounding you. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I was actually recently looked at the Martha Stewart Netflix documentary um, sorry, those fucking dogs. Um, yeah, the March, your documentary and oh my god, I actually am obsessed for her. Like she's so inspiring. Oh my god, she's the one that. Does you know? She's the one that like the cooking and yeah, yeah, but like her story is actually very powerful. Like it's actually like it goes back to her childhood and it's mad how your childhood can actually like morph you into the person you are today. Like characteristics she brought with her and then she went, she ended up in jail, like, yeah, and she like reinvented herself and she came out and stuff.
Speaker 2:It was actually like really interesting yeah, I think I'm gonna watch that tomorrow evening, to be fair, yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1:So basically, yeah, she basically was like the first kind of influencer, like do you know what I mean? Like in that era, like yeah, it's mad. So yeah, I'm a Marta Stewart lover. I never thought I would say that, but here we are now yeah, who knows, tomorrow, after I watch, it could be the same.
Speaker 2:So um this week's affirmation we have I am already healthy, I am already loved, I'm already blessed, I'm already winning, I'm already courageous, I'm already shining brightly love that.
Speaker 1:I need to keep repeating that I am, I'm already healthy, I'm already.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you are. You are 11, 11 tomorrow. This is what you'll say, hon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh well, thank you everyone for tuning in and for Simone pulling this podcast and leading it today, because I'm half dead here she's not, it's a team effort.
Speaker 2:It's a team effort. It's a team effort.
Speaker 1:You're here you've done a great job, my girly. Where are you chicken smell that and don't forget to follow us on Spotify, apple Podcasts and on Instagram. Give us a follow, help us girls out. It's just independent little show here, so, and we'll see you next week. Thank you, bye.
