Boujee Blondes

DMs Dilemmas, catfishing & end of year reflections

Melissa Clarke & Simone grace Episode 68

What happens when opulence influences the heart? Tune in as we tackle Dubai's luxurious dating scene and unravel a listener's dilemma about loyalty when a romantic interest slides into a friend's DMs. We take a magnifying glass to the city's extravagant lifestyle, questioning if it's shaping romance into a game of material pursuit. Despite these challenges, genuine connections exist beyond the surface, and we explore how forgetting the glittering masks can reveal the true essence of relationships.

Journey with us as we reflect on personal growth, navigating trust issues in flashy environments like Dubai. Sharing a week of personal hurdles, from illness to the comforting embrace of Pilates, we consider the introspective nature of the holiday season. In the midst of holiday cheer and the amusing "WTF" start to 2025, we emphasize self-compassion and the beauty of acknowledging personal evolution amidst societal expectations.

Shifting gears to relationships, we discuss the intrigue of shows like "Love is Blind" and the labyrinth of catfishing tales that test emotional bonds. Through these narratives, we're reminded of the crucial role trust plays, whether rekindling old flames or deciding who truly deserves our confidence. We wrap up with a festive twist on Christmas traditions, showcasing our preferences for holiday aesthetics. Join us for a thoughtful exploration of heart matters, with a sprinkle of holiday cheer.

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Speaker 1:

It's the Bougie Blonde Podcast with Melissa and Simone, available on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. Now let's get bougie. Hi, I'm Melissa. Hi, I'm Simone. Our podcast is serving you.

Speaker 2:

bestie vibes, we are just two country girls chatting about all things we struggle with daily life.

Speaker 1:

And, of course, talking about certain issues that some people are afraid to speak about. We give it to you real, while having crack along the way. Remember, these are just our opinions, gals, don't take us too seriously. We're just giving you some best friend advice. Take us too seriously. We're just giving you some best friend advice. So welcome to this week's episode. So simone is laughing at me because I, literally I have sunglasses on and I cannot see radio, google radio I I'm not even exaggerating like the retinas have been burnt off me.

Speaker 1:

December 2nd and the sun is piercing through my window. I cannot see.

Speaker 2:

I'm not even joking. I came on and I was like what is going on? You look like someone ready to take off going skiing oh my god, I do the headphones are giving you a mux yeah, they actually do, because you went to jumper it actually does look like a good skiing, doesn't it? I know the the next podcast. It's it's given sending out into the universe that we need to go to a ski resort talk with global warming.

Speaker 1:

Lads, I sweat in here.

Speaker 2:

We swear she didn't know what she wants. She wants a summer vacay, or she wants yeah, I'm ready for all sorts.

Speaker 1:

I can literally just like hop off, like to go skiing right now, or just I don't know. So to start off this episode, we're going to go into our dilemma. Just breathe. Melissa and simone are here to listen. So on this week's juicy jammy dodgers dilemma, we have right. So don't ask how I got listening to your podcast. Been a lad and all, but you're a proper jokes lol. We are very funny, thank you. Thank you. So simone would probably understand where I'm coming from. But dating in Dubai is proper ridiculous. Seeing a girl here for about a month took her out, been nothing but loyal, found out she's one. She's in one. My bros dms both saying that nothing more has happened. But on a serious level, don't think I can't take it any further. It keeps playing in my mind. Need some advice from you, both from a woman's point of view. She's just playing the field, is she?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but you know what it is Like. Not every woman is going to be the same, unfortunately, so every man is not going to be the same. But I've said it on here before it's a horrible state of affairs out here.

Speaker 1:

I totally understand, yeah you've said this before, so can we delve a little deeper into this? Like, what is it? Is it just that? Is it? Because I don't know? Like genuinely.

Speaker 2:

Even the girls like talking to a few of the boys like it's just, it's from both sides really like I honestly don't get it. It's just like you're. They're always wanting better and always like focusing on someone better because out here, like honestly, like the girls out here are next level, like unbelievable, looking like they really are um, so do you think?

Speaker 1:

do you think it's because of like, say, like, compare the lifestyle to like Dubai and Ireland. Like we're in Dubai, it's a lit. It's like obviously, you know, it's more bougier, it's more extravagant, there's a lot more options in regards to like even foods and restaurants, and like. I suppose people are obviously more well groomed out there as well, or I suppose, like the style back here is a bit more casual. So do you think that maybe people, when they're dating it's like their mindset nearly changes a bit because of their like? Does the environment change your mindset, maybe?

Speaker 2:

or something like 100% for me not because I personally go for personality. If someone can make me like genuinely yeah, looks obviously come into play. You need to be attracted to someone, correct, like? I just think a lot of girls out here are after the money do you think so do we?

Speaker 1:

so do we have a lot of gold diggers?

Speaker 2:

yes, we do. But then again, because some men have experience with these other women, they automatically think that every girl out there is the same, which they're not. Do you know what I mean? Like there is good ones too, but unfortunately that's the case and they always think, like you know, they need to treat them flashy and bring them to nice fancy restaurants or need to be driving a certain car. And it's obviously hard on men to get me out here like it. It must be like, because they're trying to kind of go above and beyond constantly yeah, so this is interesting.

Speaker 1:

So you're like, so is it? Because obviously these girls have got this lavish treatment of like, say, previous men.

Speaker 2:

So it's nearly like an expectation then for other men to keep up with that standard yeah, because it's like they get a little bit like of an ego as well to the fact that like well, he's done this for me before, why isn't he don't treat me this way?

Speaker 1:

or vice versa oh my god, this is very interesting. This intrigues me. And then I suppose, from a man's point of view, does he feel that he needs to go, like above and beyond to impress a girl, rather than just going, like you know, back to basics, like and getting to know the person? Like? Is it a thing where, like not all girls now we're not stereotyping everyone but some women, like they're going so used to this lifestyle that men find it hard to like they feel like they have to impress them, kind of a thing?

Speaker 2:

like you know, yeah no, it is, don't get me wrong. Like men will play the field because they always do yeah, like yeah at the end of the day. Like it is very hard to trust anyone, no matter where you are in the world. But we've said this before on here if you don't have trust, you have nothing. So if your gut is telling you to run, run because I don't know what it is with us women, but it's like we, we just know, we know, know when something's off, we know when the bag is off, we know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and the thing is as well, simone. I feel like with women we are better with like because we, like men, are more logical. Women are more like based things on emotion. I feel like that women are better at tuning into their intuition other than men. So sometimes it can be harder for a man to trust his gut and to trust his intuition with things like this. Do you know what I mean? Because I suppose we're always hearing stories about males playing women, but it does happen to males as well. Where a girl can play a man, a girl can be playing the field, and where a girl can play a man, like a girl can be playing the field and do the exact same to a man. Do you know what I mean? And I feel like it's. It's nearly not that it's harder for women to go through, but I think it's nearly a bit harder for men because they're not as in tune with their intuition and their emotions as women. Do you know?

Speaker 2:

so sometimes they get.

Speaker 1:

They get played a bit like they get carried along a bit and they go a long ways. Do you know?

Speaker 2:

yeah, but it's not that, like going back to the actual like to the dilemma, like I do get where the girl is probably coming from as well because, like you see so many many horrible stories like out here of like girls finding out that they're seeing a guy and then one of their friends friend is actually seeing him as well and it's just like a bubble like it's literally like a bubble of join the dots that's mental like honestly it's so bad like I've never experienced.

Speaker 2:

I know back at home it's a little bit hit or miss, but out here it is next level like really so like you feel like girls don't want to put all their eggs in one basket because they're like well, I'm gonna go on a date with him. I'll probably see him again and again, but how many other gals are in his dms? Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

okay, so from your perspective and your experience out there, not even my experience, because I am I, literally, I put my hands up and say it I cannot multitask with men but you know, I mean, like just from you viewing like the lifestyle out there, like you can understand why women do.

Speaker 1:

It is because it's such a thing. Why? Because men do it. So women feel that they need to kind of like, as you said, not put their eggs all in one basket. Yeah, that it's become normalized, for it's nearly like a fear maybe then of women. Is it to kind of settle down with one person in case, like a man is doing that to them, like is it?

Speaker 2:

a hundred percent because, like out here, like obviously the man that text in is living here, right, so he probably knows him and his friends have a table. There is probably a heap of gals on that table at the weekend you know what I mean. Like they pay for a table. Girls come like their friends, are introduced to friends and every weekend, like there's like a different group of girls.

Speaker 2:

So like if you're a girl and you're seeing a guy that knows that he has money and he's going to have tables, that he's going to be mixing with all these different women, it's up to you to adjust to that lifestyle and think is this the lifestyle that you actually want? Or do you want a man that's going to work and putting his head down and, you know, working monday to friday and then when the weekend comes, like he's just like wants to do nice things? You know, if he's at that mindset in life where it's different. I think there's a big, massive difference between boys and men. Like it doesn't matter what age they are, because men don't grow up until like later 30s and it's a known fact. Like it is a known fact so it's a known fact out here.

Speaker 2:

It's like a little playground for him. But also it's the same with girls, because obviously he's feeling it so like he's probably like well, she's messaging my friend as well, or she was previously. Like he said he knows her. Like how many other guys has she been messaging? You know what I mean? Like that's just one person that he knows. So I do get it like obviously your ego is going to go a little bit down the drain as well, because it's his, it's his friend so when you say that may like say the lads buy a table, would they just buy a table then?

Speaker 1:

and girls just come and sit like and just don't pay for dinner?

Speaker 2:

yeah, literally yeah, like so they'll just get a table, and then like, if they're they know a few girls or whatever, then the girls come on it, because in some places like you, you can get a table, like on a night out at a beach club or like restaurants are different, but like, say, if it's like a beach club or a nightclub or whatever, you need to actually have girls on your table to get in. Like they can pay, but they need the girls on their table. It's weird.

Speaker 1:

Stop it. Yeah, that's mental. Yeah, so that's quite hard if you are like, say, dating someone or seeing someone and then, like you, just I suppose you'd have that fear as a woman and insecurity that every week you're going to have different girls at their table on the night out. Yeah, of course, this, honestly, is fucking blowing my mind. I know it comes a harsh reality. Wow, I feel like women are being bought out there. Jesus christ, that's honestly what it is. I feel like women are being bought like just for status or for show. Like it's quite mental. I don't think I could. Which?

Speaker 2:

is bad because it's obviously not fair on. Like the people that want to settle down, like out of his friend group, say, he might be the one that wants to like settle down. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

And then he's finding out this. Okay, back to this poor chap. Clearly you really like her, yeah, um, I think you just need to take the risk and be blunt, up and clear with this girl and just be like, look, I really like it, like do you know what I mean and would you be interested in like just being like more exclusive and seeing how it goes?

Speaker 2:

and then you know, like I feel like we're, we're gone to a point in, just I feel like we just need to be blunt and say things and then, like there's no arsing around, you just get your answer yeah, exactly, I think, even in this day and age, in this generation, like you have to like, if you really want something like, just put it out there, just say it, because at the end of the day it's not worth, it's not worth your emotions, it's not worth how you're feeling, and plus you don't want to waste your time, so just yeah, just say it how it is and as well.

Speaker 1:

As well as what we were speaking about, it could be a thing where maybe, like she's insecure and feels like she's afraid to settle down with one person. So maybe she needs someone to take the lead and just be blunt and she could really like you as well, and it's just kind of like a fear that maybe she is kind of, you know, getting to know other lads and stuff. So I think you just need to be blunt and say it to her and see what happens, because then at least you know exactly like I just say how it is.

Speaker 2:

Express, express how you're feeling and hopefully you get a good outcome, because you know that could have been just in the past. Like you said, they're both saying that they didn't have anything else going on, only a couple of messages here and there.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, take the risk, take the risk. Yeah, jesus christ, I actually feel a bit. Didn't realize the day now in dubai was this dramatic it's dramatic, believe me. There's some, there's some stories yeah, I feel like we need a full episode on dating in dubai I know I could write a book.

Speaker 2:

If I, if I could write a book, let me tell you, lads, yeah, I feel like we need to. It's this bad that there's like a facebook group called. Are we dating the same guy on facebook and people? Put it people put it really yeah, but it's horrible, like it's actually horrible. Yeah, the place is disgusting. It's disgusting you cannot trust. It's very hard to trust down here.

Speaker 1:

Wow, jesus christ, fucking hell I. I feel like I need to investigate this further. How was your week? How was your weekly roundup?

Speaker 2:

ann crack my weekly roundup was super busy. I was ill, like I literally had some sort of bug. Yeah, like even out here, like I'm like what is actually going on? It's the first time I've been proper ill in a long time. But I was fine, saturday went out and then yesterday I was like, no, I just need to chill. So my week just consisted of work, gym, pilates and getting sick.

Speaker 1:

I can't wait to actually get back to Pilates. I feel like I need to start back now, in January. I feel like I need that good vibes. Do you know?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I don't know what it is, but you just feel so much unbelievable when you come out of there yeah, I need to.

Speaker 1:

I need to get in the session now, but my week as well. Like I feel like I'm in hibernation mode and not like I don't know. I feel like I'm just in a healing era where I'm in hibernation mode and not like I don't know. I feel like I'm just in a healing era where I'm just like I'm happy about the cozy, chilled vibes and not really doing much.

Speaker 2:

I feel December is always like this, isn't it? Like, yeah, from October to December, it's like you just want to crawl up into a ball, like reflect on the year, reflect on the year, all the positive things that are common in 2025. Plus, 2025 falls on a Wednesday, okay, okay. So Wednesday, thursday, friday are WTF, what the fuck? So what is this year going?

Speaker 1:

to bring.

Speaker 2:

I love the way you notice this, like how do you notice these things? Because I am a weirdo. I literally like I was looking at my calendar the other day and I was looking at when I'm coming back and I was like, oh, the first falls on a Wednesday. And then you know the way, like on a calendar, obviously it doesn't say the dates, just gives the initial yeah, yeah, wtf, what, the fuck, what?

Speaker 1:

the fuck it could be. Maybe what the fuck, though, could be very positive. I could be like oh, what the fuck year? Or it could be like what the fuck it depends?

Speaker 2:

on our brother, yeah brother.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like it depends on mood you put with it. Like, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I'm like I'm looking forward to next year. I always get sad, though at the end of the year, I don't know why. I just I feel like really emotional, why it's like I don't know what. Just a Christmas, I think, is an emotional time anyway, isn't it? Because it's like family, and then you're thinking about next year and like think about people who've like passed, and yeah, I don't know, it's like it's. It's like I feel like it's always a fear going into the new year, but like exciting what has this year got to offer me?

Speaker 2:

yeah, what can I actually do this year to make it my year? And I say every year. Then I look back on the year and I'm like what was?

Speaker 1:

that yeah, yeah. And you know, I'm not even doing that this year, I'm not even going to say this is my year, this year, because I just I'm just going to go with the flow, I'm just going to be a wave, I'm just going to flow into the year and just see what brings. You know what I mean? Because I feel like if you have high expectations, oh it just it can either be a good or a bad.

Speaker 2:

You know what it is as well.

Speaker 2:

It's like we're so hard on ourselves this is the problem, like when you actually look back on like all the things that happened in the last few years, like a memory popped up on my phone, like from 11 years ago, of me, my brother and my sister, like my mom was getting like photos done for the house or whatever and I was like, oh my god, if that 11 year old girl could see where she is right now and like the amount she climbed. But then, like I'm sat here today and I'm like what is my life?

Speaker 1:

I think we're just programmed, the way society has gone, just to kind of like not have compassion with ourselves and be very like hard on ourselves when, like that, when you were looking back also to interrupt, you, isn't that mad how years ago, like we used to get these, we used to have to go get family photos for the house. Remember that Like?

Speaker 2:

that's mad. My mom got a photographer into our house. Yeah, woman is like. She got a photographer in and the pictures are still like on the stairs and I'm like time to get them down now on. Yeah, same us, like she used to go.

Speaker 1:

We used to go to the photographer in town like and like everyone used to go to him. Like everyone used to like get like the yearly like family photos, or if it was like for communions or confirmations, like you probably went into a studio and photographer like, got pictures of you and now, sure, everything's just on your phone. Isn't it mad? Like how things change like, isn't it crazy?

Speaker 2:

yeah it is. I don't know what it is, though, but I feel like when you take a picture on your phone and then you go to a studio like, for, say, communions confirmations, or like home pictures or weddings, whatever it may be the ones on your phone come out so much better than the ones that you get done. This is not like hating on photographers, but I just I look completely different.

Speaker 1:

It's just I think it's because it's like so bright and there's like lights and I think you're all standing there with like like this big cheesy smile, like everyone's uncomfortable. I think that's the problem. I think, where people are a bit more at ease when it's just a phone, they don't feel like as as pressured. Some people just don't like getting photographs.

Speaker 2:

Sick do you know what I mean? Yeah, I know my dad number one. Like if you were like I get picture the back of his head. Really, he's just like no, why. Why do you need one? Why do you need?

Speaker 1:

aren't they?

Speaker 1:

yeah but yeah, like I think this, yeah, this, like, because I had my I actually had therapy this morning and was my I actually just remembered when I was leaving I was like, oh my god, that's my last session of the year, and then I was kind of reflecting. I was like, oh my god, like what a year that has been. Do you know what I mean? Of like, just like everything that we've like overcame, or do you know what I mean? It's mad how much like you evolve within the year as well, that I think you forget the people forget how far they've come. Um, because I think we're always looking at the more the, I suppose, the materialistic side of things, when like, oh, I didn't do this or I didn't do that or I didn't get this, instead of like the actual, like spiritual, like growth journey of people, like of how much they've overcame, be stronger, what they've challenged. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Like it's yeah, it's mad like how much we change and it happens in everyone's life, and I feel like, yeah, do you know the way you kind of look at other people and you're like, oh my god, like joe, they're doing this and that the other, like their life is amazing, like no one knows. Like I'm telling you what's been true.

Speaker 1:

No, no, I've seen this thing before and it was like you see someone at the end of their journey and your people are like, oh well, it's well for them how to do this, how to do that, but you don't see the 20 years before that of how they got there. So, like, a lot of times when people become like famous or noticed, it's only really in their last like year or two, but no one sees the like years of graph before that. Um, and like that you just don't know what people are going through like. And I feel, yeah, do you know what I mean? Like people can be showcasing the best parts of their life, but you don't know what's going on in people's lives behind closed doors or what they're struggling with. And yeah, it's mad.

Speaker 1:

Like I think like we all should be like very compassionate with ourselves in December. I feel like December should be kind of like a write-off month, do you agree? Like I don't even think we should even set goals for. I think it should be like January to November is like, and then December is just like ah, let's chill the fuck out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I'm just like it's time it's Christmas, it's like just time to like chill yeah, you know, are you missing out the like Christmas vibes over, because I know it's like still obviously hot over there, like are you kind of looking forward to coming back for cozy vibes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I actually can't wait, but the last couple of days have been super duper cold like freezing Really. I'm wearing a long sleeve top today and bottoms Like yesterday. I wore a jumpsuit, went for lunch and literally froze to death. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to coming home. Wore a jumpsuit, went for lunch and literally froze to death.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, I'm looking forward to coming home. And what's the weather?

Speaker 2:

like there at the moment. How hot is it over there? Like it's saying like 26, but it's definitely not 26. It's like 26 at home in the evening on the beach in the summer, that kind of coldness.

Speaker 1:

So you're probably just getting so used to the heat though, Like if I went out there I'd probably melt.

Speaker 2:

No, honestly, there's a cold breeze in the desert, let me tell you Really, yeah, there really is. But anyway, the other day I watched this series on Netflix. You know me, I do not watch TV.

Speaker 1:

Do I? No, you're not a TV gal. You're not like. You're not like me. I I like to binge. I like to have now. I wouldn't look at TV every day, but I do love a good session in bed with a Netflix program. I love it, I love it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I genuinely I don't know what it is in the night time if I sit down or whatever, like a Christmas film I watched the other night. But I watched this series on Netflix called Sweet Bobby, my catfish nightmare. Have you watched it?

Speaker 1:

yeah, it is. I looked at it in when I was in Amsterdam and I was like wow, how did it get this far like the? We won't ruin it for anyone who hasn't seen it, but because obviously the end I was like the little fucker, um, like the catfishing.

Speaker 2:

But catfishing has gone so big, simone, like you see here's so many people getting caught out like yeah, but like, the thing that freaks me out the most is people probably watched it already right, but you cannot trust your friend, a family member, like your nan at this rate, because you just don't know what the hell is going on and why. People want to do this like if that was me. But I put my hands up and say I just genuinely couldn't be in a relationship or message somebody, number one that I don't know, that I've never met, and it's been years upon, years, upon years and you still haven't met the person. Like how can you be in a relationship with somebody over the internet?

Speaker 1:

I don't, simone. I don't fucking get it either. I honestly don't, because when I was looking at it I was like well, how can you be in a relationship like she was with him? Was it a good like three? Was it a good three years? Am I right in?

Speaker 2:

saying that she was getting married to him. He proposed to her over the internet like I think she got a ring off him in the post, like planning all this stuff.

Speaker 1:

I was like, yeah, like it's bonkers, like I don't see how you get in that deep. But then not one to judge. I do feel that like depending. I do feel like women especially like have this emotional, like yeah, emotional bond, like they develop it quicker. It's like a um, uh, what's the program? Love is blind. Like women, you know, they like get really attached to someone they've never seen because of conversations and yeah, but like, and how into depth.

Speaker 1:

The conversations went and, like she was, getting married like yeah, and I feel like if women have past trauma as well, they're more inclined to kind of like get sucked into this, I feel, because I don't know, I went on like they were getting married but then like all the lies, like it's just crazy how the person, the cat person, who's the catfisher, like the extent they go to her that much. Yeah mental.

Speaker 2:

But when she showed up at the house, we obviously won't run it. But when she showed up at the house and like the guy that's supposed to be the guy that she was talking to, or whatever, and the wife and the baby, and she knew the wife and the baby and bear in mind this man and wife were supposed to have been split up for years, right, and then they had like a one-night stand or something he said, and the baby came along and she goes to the door and oh, it's just insane. But the fact that this is real and it's real life. I honestly thought that I was watching an episode of eastenders because I was like how is this real?

Speaker 1:

how, simone, right, if you think about it, right, you know the man that got catfished, the man who knew nothing about anything. Obviously there were shoes in these photos and your one shows up to his house, imagine. But imagine his wife actually didn't believe him because obviously you have a girl at the door who is convinced. You are writing to her and we've been talking and I have pictures and I have that and your man's like I actually haven't a clue what you're on about his wife was there beside him, like it would be very easy for, like you, to turn around, but like you're a fucking liar, you were texting this woman and like it could end a marriage, like literally that's the thing.

Speaker 2:

Like supposedly, he said it was coming to the end of it and he was like, yeah, I'm back in town or whatever. And she went down to like google and found his like address or whatever it may be, because he said he was in the states for some time or whatever. And then he was like, yeah, I'm back, I'll see you tomorrow, see you tomorrow. And obviously he kept making up like excuses so she was going off her head because they were engaged, she hadn't met him. Like they're speaking for years and years shows up to the door and she's acting like a crazy woman and the man doesn't even know who she is. And the wife and the baby like I'd be like, in my opinion, if that was my husband, I'd be like you are a liar, get out of my house and I I think I would be as well, simone I'd be like, get the fuck out.

Speaker 1:

You're lying, like because you can see a girl, like in her eyes, who's at the door saying you're texting me. It looks like she's telling the truth because she's full of emotion, and then you have your husband there. But, like this fucker has been like playing around like do you know what I mean? That could have easily ended a marriage, only for she.

Speaker 2:

I think the girl had good intuition, like she copped on yeah, she ran the phone and the phone obviously didn't ring his phone, yeah, yeah, mental though, isn't it like it's scary, like do you think that?

Speaker 1:

you think that happens to a lot of people?

Speaker 2:

I wonder yeah, well, I want to know because I know a lot of our listeners like have these situations when we get to limousine or whatever. But please send us in, like if you have any catfish stories for us, because we're very interested and intrigued obviously, and how you ended up in the position, because we really want to yeah, yeah, do like is there any situations that ended horribly?

Speaker 1:

or like how did you find out you're being like catfish and it even doesn't have to be as dramatic now as like sweet bobby, but like, even like look smaller situations, you know what I mean. Like you went on a date and he basically didn't look like his pictures well, back to what you said at the start there, simone. Isn't it mad, though, like sometimes the people who you think are closest to you are the ones who are your worst enemy, which is fucking scary, you cannot be so careful.

Speaker 2:

I always say you need to have such an open mind with people like you can't. You cannot trust everyone. Not everyone is here for the good of your health. Like they're really not. No, like they're actually not. Like, yeah, you can get on with everyone and you know you have some sort of little bit of trust, but you always have to be. I always say I never, ever, ever like talk too much upon people about my life or about how I feel, or, like you know, like my dreams or whatever it may be, because you just don't know.

Speaker 1:

Oh, and I've learned that from you, I have to say, like, especially over the last year, we had a conversation, coming back for an event.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I said to you. My grandfather always said yeah, you can have 20 friends, many acquaintances, but you'll only have one true best friend.

Speaker 1:

And it's so true yeah, it's so true and I feel that as well. Like I feel, and it's like psychology, that like people sometimes don't have your best interest at heart and even though they could be like a family member, someone who you think is like really close, but sometimes when you step out of the box it triggers something in someone else that maybe they want to be doing, yeah, and they can give you the evil eye. I'm a firm, fucking believer of this evil eye. I swear to God, like there is even things now that I will not say until it's happened. Because, yeah, I just I feel like people can unintentionally give you the evil eye and stop things from happening in this process.

Speaker 2:

You know, I mean like, even if something is ongoing in my life and I know it's going to happen, I don't actually put it out there to people until it's face facts in front of me yeah no, and you're dead right and I used to be a fecker for that.

Speaker 1:

Like I used to be like, really excited, you don't get things. I'm really excited about something. I'd be like, oh my god, this is so like this blah blah, and then like something would happen that I would fail, and I honestly think it is from people like just giving unintentional jealousy sometimes, um, I need, but now I don't. I literally just shut my mouth and until it happens, it happens. You know what I mean because I just feel like you can't, you can't trust the world and it's actually you know what I think it's very sad that it is that it does come to this, because I know not

Speaker 2:

everyone, everyone. Like we're such like I know like I'm such a positive person like I can be don't get me wrong, I can be a negative Nelly as well. I'm human. But you're the same like. But you feel like you can trust everyone, like you actually genuinely feel that like you get close with someone you know you could, you can trust them, whatever. And then they start doing little things and they're like, hmm, hold on a minute. But I always say, if you're in a group and they're speaking about somebody else that's not sat at the table, that's in your group, your circle, well then I hate to break it to you, but they're speaking about you as well yeah, a hundred percent, like if if they're giving out about someone in your, someone else that you know, but then you see them talk to them they're doing the exact same to you.

Speaker 1:

I said so we live and we learn yeah, it's kind of because, like I feel like I try to see the best in people and sometimes I can be blindsided. But yeah, I think I'm going better at that, do you know? Yeah?

Speaker 2:

I feel like I'm like a sponge. I kind of sponge for a bit and then yeah, I kind of let my guard down a little bit with people and then I'm like I know where to draw the line. You know that, yeah, like I'd be so close and friendly with everyone and I hate talking about people, it's just not in me. Um, yeah, I don't want to shut my trap and I feel with me.

Speaker 1:

It takes a while for my guard to come down, like it's hard to break me, but then when you do, you're kind of in, yeah but you don't want to be surrounded by those type of people either.

Speaker 2:

Do you know what I mean? No, like some people just aren't your people, and that's okay.

Speaker 1:

That's okay like it's okay not to like everyone as well. Do you know what I mean? No, some people just aren't your people, and that's okay. That's okay like it's okay not to like everyone as well. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, so we have our big hat of mystery. She went disappearing for a while, but she's back now, do you know? So hopefully it's a good one, okay. Oh, this is interesting. Can you get back with an ex, and does it actually really work out?

Speaker 2:

My opinion is an ex is an ex.

Speaker 1:

for a reason, do you think so?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like it depends on the situation, I suppose. Oh yeah, like sometimes people I don't know, even if it's true, but in other words they say, oh, the right one wrong time. Is that even a thing like not yeah?

Speaker 1:

because you do hear big people say they break up before to go to like Australia or something, and then they go out to Australia for like seven years or I'm just making this up now on top of my head, but there is actually someone. My clients had similar story, um, and then they came back and they got back together so is it a thing that it like it was like I don't know, maybe.

Speaker 2:

I do believe that sometimes, like people get together at a very young age and then, like they grow up and realize that they want different things and then they go out and live their life and they actually like the universe to open them back together. Like I do get that, but I mean, sometimes I'm just kind of like, if it was supposed to be a would have, like you look at, like your grandparents or whatever, like you know, nothing came between them like, or your parents, whatever it may be. Like if, if you're really committed like to somebody, then you know, I don't, I don't know, melissa, it's a hard one for me. I'm just like I don't think I could do it because it's the hurt, it's the trauma. It's so like building yourself back up and then thinking like, oh my god, something bad's gonna happen again.

Speaker 1:

I kind of I'm on the same page. You, I think. I do think it's an ex for a reason maybe. I have one percent of cases not like I feel like even if you break up for like seven years and you come back to one another, you're two completely different people than you originally were that seven years ago. I'm just using seven years in the example now just to kind of showcase time. Um, like I feel like you're it's nearly like you're completely different people, like people's values and things change. Now maybe you can, um, I don't think. Like I think if you're like broke up for a year and then you get back with each other, you're I don't think you've really healed. I don't know what do you think like I don't. It's hard like have you ever? Because I feel like a year you don't really go over your ex.

Speaker 2:

Anyway it takes a good like no, I feel like it's different if you're in a relationship with someone than a situation ship. Yeah, get me like it. Maybe if it was a situation ship like and you actually didn't have like a relationship, like you weren't actually in a relationship, you just kind of yeah, that's different.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm talking like a proper ex, like someone you've been with for like a few years.

Speaker 2:

You break up and then you get back together no, my opinion, no, yeah, I just don't think so. I just think people come into your life to give you lessons and maybe got some good, some bad, and then, like I don't, I put my hands up and say that no yeah, and I think I don't know like it's.

Speaker 1:

I don't really know, like I've heard, like I know many people do get back with their exes, but I feel like they always break up again. Though I don't know like it's, I don't really know, like I've heard, like I know many people do get back with their exes, but I feel like they always break up again. Though I don't know, I feel like I feel like you go back into the relationship with, like unresolved trauma or triggers from being with one another. Not like that. It's hard to like. I don't know. Start fresh now. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. Do you know?

Speaker 2:

but and plus for me, I'd be just thinking of like all the people that they were with, because you always hear of like who your ex is seeing. Like all the people that they were with after you, or if they had a girlfriend after you everything.

Speaker 1:

I think that would be like a main thing for me. I've been like, were they with someone that like I knew? I think that would be like a massive trigger for me. If they were with someone that, like you knew quite well, or like not even knew well, but like just know from around, you know that I don't know. Like I wouldn't like that, like no, me, neither, me, neither.

Speaker 2:

So I feel like we're both on the same pages.

Speaker 1:

No, yeah, I feel like we're on the same page, yeah, but if you are actually, if anyone's listening, and you have got back with an ex and like you were living like your best life and are happily still with each other, please let us know, because we'd be interested to like know another perspective of the story as well. Do you know, okay, for our game of the week, we have christmas edition, simone. Okay, and we have a this, a this or that, because I know you love christmas, so you're just a girl for it, right? You're just a little country christmas girl, right? So we, we have Christmas, this or that. So you have to obviously pick which one you prefer. Do you prefer gift wrapping or gift bags?

Speaker 2:

See, I'm such like I'm OCD when it comes to Christmas. So like I love wrapping, I love putting a little bow on it, the tag, and then putting it in a gift bag do you like the whole shebang?

Speaker 1:

you want it wrapped in the bag. Don't give Simone just a gift. Simone wants the whole thing wrapped it's all in the thought.

Speaker 2:

It's all in the thought it is. It could be a pair of slippers from Penny's, but if it's not wrapped, put in a gift bag with a bow on top, I don't want it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it just makes that a little bit extra special, isn't it? When you add little tauts into the wrapping, even if it's cheap, as you said, a little present, if you have gift wrapped that with a bow, put in a bag, it just makes it like more thoughtful, doesn't it Right? Do you prefer? I know you're a bit of an OCD girly with your Christmas tree Do you like colored lights or white lights? White lights.

Speaker 2:

Please Do you, If anyone is out there listening. No, do not put color on your tree.

Speaker 1:

I have white lights and I have pink lights because I'm a pink girly. Oh, that's cute. Yeah, it is cute, multicolored.

Speaker 2:

You know the ones, and then they, no, no no, no, my pink lights.

Speaker 1:

I love them and I'm just because I actually it's really hard to get pink lights now, but I have pink and white just because we need the girly vibes, you know, okay, do you prefer? Would you prefer to build a gingerbread house or make christmas cookies? Build a gingerbread house. I fucking love gingerbread men, like. So if you want to like seduce me, get me a gingerbread man. Get me a gingerbread man, like I am obsessed with gingerbread men, like a good gingerbread man, oh, I love them so much. Okay, um, christmas pajamas or christmas sweater christmas pajamas yeah, I don't like christmas jumpers.

Speaker 1:

I was actually saying this when I was chatting to um, when I was on KCLR the other day chatting to Brian, and I was like Brian sweaters, give me the ick. Like I was like I hate them. I hate Christmas jumpers.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what it is like, I just don't like them, like I've never liked them, you know, when they were a thing and they were in fashion and everyone was kind of wearing them a couple years ago, like with leather skirts and e-boots and stuff. Yeah, they may look cute or whatever, but I genuinely hated them.

Speaker 1:

I just don't like them because it could be like dirty as well. It's like pull my cracker or something, or fucking jingle my balls, or something like. I'm like ew, it's the truth, though, isn't it like let me see now, okay, an artificial tree, or a real tree?

Speaker 2:

I like an artificial tree that looks like a real Christmas tree, because what I don't like about a real Christmas tree is the clean up the mess I do love the smell of about a real Christmas tree is the cleanup, the mess.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I do love the smell of a good, real Christmas tree, though, and I like putting my tree up early, like near kind of the middle of November, end of November, and I feel like when you put up a real Christmas tree See, I dig deep into my thoughts about Christmas trees when you put it up it just starts fading and it just loses its magic.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it does, especially if it's like a really warm house as well. You actually be proud of me. I have my christmas tree up it's very like this is early for me.

Speaker 1:

I actually have it up. I went to buy a new christmas tree the other day and I was like, do I want a white tree? Do I want a normal tree? And then I was going to get the white tree and I was like sometimes I feel like what a white tree? Less is more in it, yeah, like it can only just be balls, like of one color, and I was like my decorations I have won't really go with that, so I end up getting a normal green tree. So, yeah, it's actually too big for my house as well. So I can't even walk in the door because I've got, like, only a card. Um, okay, the grinch, or buddy the elf, the grinch, oh, my god, I love buddy the elf so do I, but I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if I'm a lover of the grinch, I may re-watch it. I don't know. I don't know. All right, sleep in or up early on christmas morning up early.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god, yeah, I'm like a child, would you be? Oh my god, I literally get so excited. I'm like my mom always like because obviously the younger sister, but she's done it with us all. So she's like creeping down the stairs like, right, I need to see if he's after coming, first, stay there, stay there. And we're all on the stairs and she's like looking in the sitting room and she's like, okay, he's after coming, come on, come in, come in it's exciting when it's exciting when you have brothers and sisters like younger in the house as well.

Speaker 1:

Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

so nice like, do you know what I feel, even though, like, obviously, skylar is is six, but I can't even remember what life was before. Do you know that? Yeah, it's like courtney stopped, obviously, like in the whole christmas magic, and then it was like Skylar came at the right time to just bring the magic wagon to the house yeah, I remember what ruined my Christmas magic is.

Speaker 1:

I was lying in my bed and above my door there's like a glass, and I seen my father getting out of the attic with some of the presents that obviously you know someone was meant to have. I was like I was like no rounded on me. They're obviously very stupid, like you know.

Speaker 1:

It's sad though yeah, I was really sad when I was a child, though, and I was like you know, I was like, oh, it kind of does, like it makes it special when you have younger brothers and sisters, you know. I mean that auntie is coming to them and stuff. Well, see, it depends. I do. I don't know if I'd be up early or sleeping like last year. I think I was up early, but I'm not gonna lie, I've had a couple of bad hangovers for Christmas day, like nearly ruined Christmas day for the family because I'm so sick. So, yeah, I'm being good this year.

Speaker 1:

No, it's not happening this year. Last year I was very good and I'm going to be very good again this year because we don't want to ruin christmas with family. Do you know, I'm like that meme. Do you ever see that meme where your man is like he's in like a black coat and he's like singing um, jingle bell, jingle bell, jingle bell, rock. It's like in the middle of christmas morning. He has like a flag in his hand. It's like that would be coming in christmas morning ready to go into any yeah, ready to go in any right ice skating.

Speaker 1:

Um, actually, no one wants that one. Playing cards or watching movies on christmas night. What do you do? Yeah, we do a bit of both now, like I. We go, we play car, we do play cards, but then I would end the night with a movie, do you know? Yeah fairy lights or candles around your house. Candles yeah, I love an owl candle. Some people don't like scents. They're very funny with their scent stove candles.

Speaker 1:

They make them have headaches. I love a good candle. I was going to buy a Yankee candle the other day and then I didn't. They're actually so expensive but they're so worth it.

Speaker 2:

I love them I so, on this week's affirmation we have, I love myself and respect myself. I chose happiness, health, joy. I live my life authentically and honestly. I express myself freely. I design my own life. I am in charge of my own decisions and emotions.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I love that. Nice job, Miranda. Yeah, Thank you everyone for tuning in. Make sure you follow us on Spotify and then you can stay in touch with us on our Instagram. So follow us on that as well, and don't forget to email or dms and we will chat to you next week chat to you next week.

Speaker 2:

Bye, bye.

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