On this week's episode, host Pete Salsich takes you behind the scenes of Neil Salsich's inspiring musical journey. From grassroots beginnings to major exposure, relive Neil's standout moments as a contestant on The Voice and the amazing accomplishments of his band, The Mighty Pines.
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On this week's episode, host Pete Salsich takes you behind the scenes of Neil Salsich's inspiring musical journey. From grassroots beginnings to major exposure, relive Neil's standout moments as a contestant on The Voice and the amazing accomplishments of his band, The Mighty Pines.
Original Theme Song composed by Brent Johnson of Coolfire Studios.
Podcast sponsored by Capes Sokol.
Learn more about THE SCREEN LAWYER™ TheScreenLawyer.com.
Follow THE SCREEN LAWYER™ on social media:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheScreenLawyer
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheScreenLawyer
Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheScreenLawyer
Instagram: https://instagram.com/TheScreenLawyer
The Screen Lawyer’s hair by Shelby Rippy, Idle Hands Grooming Company.
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The Screen Lawyer Podcast is brought to you by Cape Sokol, Attorneys at Law.
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Unknown
Hey there. Welcome to the screening of your podcast. My guest today is my cousin and my favorite musician, Neil Salsich. Neil, welcome. Thanks, Pete. It's good to be here. It's great to have you here. And we're going to talk about some really cool stuff, right? I'm excited. And who knows where we're going to go? I know. Well, you'll have to check it out and stick around.
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Unknown
Hey, there. How are you doing? I'm Pete Salsich, the screen lawyer. And welcome to the Screen Lawyer podcast. My guest today is my cousin and my favorite musician, Neil Salsich of The Mighty Pines and lots of other things. And we're here to talk about you, man. Welcome. Wow. I'm in, Pete. I'm glad to be here. And it just.
00;00;44;20 - 00;01;12;13
Unknown
It's so cool. I've really made it. I made it, because I'm on the Screen Lawyer Podcast. Well, I know that little thing on The Voice. Who is that? That's. Yeah, that. That road led to here. Well, that's a I think it's. It's nice to have that acknowledged. Yeah, it's all right. Yeah. For folks who I don't know that there's anybody who doesn't know but let's you know a lot of times in these things with guests, I want to hear the journey and I want to hear that.
00;01;12;13 - 00;01;43;01
Unknown
But let's start with the most recent part of your journey. I mean, The Voice. Yeah. How is. Tell us about that. Wow. You know, truly the thrill of a lifetime and also something that you were involved with behind the scenes as my family and professional entertainment lawyer. So you were very helpful, right, when that, you know, that thing was germinating you know, I got all these legal contracts in and, oh, my God, what am I going to do?
00;01;43;01 - 00;01;57;20
Unknown
I still got to sign these and go to Hollywood and do all the things. But, you know, that was an amazing, amazing year. It's been it's been I know. That's what's wow, that's a try because I mean, a lot of people didn't start seeing you or hear that you guys were beyond this season until it came out this spring.
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Unknown
Yeah, but we were last summer. Yeah, I remember. We're on a Zoom and I'm looking at you. And I said, Neil, this is like a 57-page contract and it's not a negotiation. They're not going to change any words in here. You're either. My job is to make sure you know what's in there. And we went through it and you were like, Yeah, I'm going to take my shot.
00;02;16;00 - 00;02;38;05
Unknown
Yeah, it all worked out and I had a feeling it would anyway, you so but what a journey and what an excitement just to be singing in front of Chance the Rapper and Kelly Clarkson and, and, and Reba mcEntire even speaking about it is still a little bit like that. I'm not sure that it really happened, but at least I can go on a screen and watch a video of it to prove, Oh, I did that.
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Unknown
Right, Right. No, I definitely happen. And you had a lot of people excited about the journey. And what I think is so interesting because we you know, and this podcast and just in general, I talk all the time about things getting on a screen. And a lot of times that's because we're focused on the contracts or getting the rights or things like that in the production world.
00;02;58;07 - 00;03;42;01
Unknown
But you got a chance to to, you know, when we see 4 minutes of you on an episode, how much time and all this stuff went into the question that is really the defining factor for me of the whole thing, because it was a year long experience, right, distilled down into cumulatively, you know, 30 minutes on screen over the whole season, something which which is actually which is good amount of time you know is but still that's an amazing way to think about it because I was out there for weeks and weeks and weeks and one I always think about when people would see me perform, for example, the Marvin Gaye tune that
00;03;42;01 - 00;04;02;19
Unknown
I did that was montaged to do to this whole battle partner dropout. You'll have to, you know, go back and watch the episode, folks. But that was three weeks of being out in a hotel in L.A., you know, next to an airport smelling plane fumes every day. And I try to go out to get fresh air, you know. Yeah, exactly.
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Unknown
Everything off-screen was not so glamorous. But you mean that was three weeks. And then on, you know, on the show it was 90 seconds, that whole performance. So that's kind of in a nutshell how it worked. But I have a feeling that's how most of TV and film works. And in fact, that's how a lot of music is.
00;04;21;16 - 00;04;46;03
Unknown
It is. You know, when we record an album, you're waiting around in the studio for a long time. And finally the producer goes, okay, you ready for us? And you're going to sing this this vocal line for us. Okay, good. Let's break for lunch. So that's well, it's interesting because you've had that experience in the in the sound world. But really these days, you don't just make music for our ears, right?
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Unknown
I mean, there's a video component all the time, whether it's the social media side or, you know, I guess it's been ever since music videos kind of came on the scene back in the MTV early days. But it's not necessarily always like a choreographed story, like the early videos. It's just lots of live footage of you guys playing? Yep.
00;05;05;04 - 00;05;20;00
Unknown
What's that like? I mean, do you do you feel are you just so used to it that you're not even aware the cameras are on when you're playing? You mean just in a in a live music setting? Yeah. Or even in like in a practice setting or in a in a recording setting. No. You're still aware that the cameras are on.
00;05;20;00 - 00;05;47;14
Unknown
That's like almost. It feels like a necessary evil, to be honest. It's like not something I really always want, but you know that it's necessary if you don't have content like visual content for your fans, it just it's not going to cut it right in 2023. And that's just that's an example of kind of many things that I would wish weren't so.
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Unknown
But you just know that you got to play the game. I mean, you know, and I don't mean to say that content isn't great and then stuff, but just from my experience, from my story, I just came at it truly from a musical audio kind of creative thing. And a big part of my journey over the last decade has been negotiating with the modern world, you know, social media.
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Unknown
Yeah, and sort of just giving in slowly over time. You know, I don't think that I'm smarter than it or that I can, you know, make it without content. I just know I write so well and nobody can know. I mean, you can't we're we're sitting here today because I want to put content up, right? I mean, that's part of how it all works.
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Unknown
It's definitely, definitely a thing. And when done well, it is great stuff. You know what I mean? It's just it's just a reckoning, I think depending on and certain artists are just they come into it with a different mindset. I kind of stumbled into music a little bit more happenstance, you know what I mean? Well, I mean, it's interesting to hear you say that because, of course, you know, you and I are some reasonable number of years apart in our gigantic family, but we grew up with music always surrounding us.
00;07;05;03 - 00;07;24;26
Unknown
I mean, every single family event of any kind. There were at least two or three guitars out. It just was always the place. And I remember thinking, you know, okay, I, I want to get up there someday. But I didn't start when I was little, right? So I was in college and I'm like, coming back from college. I just started playing guitar and like, can I sit up here with my uncles?
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Unknown
Right. Was that stage you? I remember early on, I don't know. You were out 12 or 13 or something like that, sitting there with electric guitar playing wooden ships lead in a Christmas singing. I'm like, Holy cow, you were. So I just I wonder if that is just something that's always been there for you. And maybe what's evolved this year, full ownership of that. It has been.
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Unknown
That's that's how I describe it. Like the music's there, but I say I kind of stumbled into it is because I, I stumbled into it as a profession. Sure. Sure. You know, like it was always a passion and maybe even a vocation. But in terms of I always tell this to people like I'm a natural singer or I'm a natural musician, but I was not necessarily a natural performer.
00;08;10;21 - 00;08;33;20
Unknown
Sure, sure, sure, sure. A huge part of my journey over the last couple of years and really a big part of the last year being on The Voice was me really just finally arriving in that space and saying, Well, I'm I'm going to figure this out. That's and so I think that's so fascinating because of course, completely biased, doesn't mean we were wrong.
00;08;33;23 - 00;08;59;25
Unknown
But you know, obviously, we're fans, so we're watching your performances as fans to begin with. But just watching the way that Chance and Niall would react to you, singing was so electrifying to watch because they were having so much fun. Of course, the music was good, yeah, but they were enjoying the performance and that was really cool to watch.
00;08;59;25 - 00;09;17;07
Unknown
Did you did you grow in that role? And that was with her coaches there. I mean. Yes. What's this about? Totally, Totally. This is this is fun. I really haven't had a chance to, like, actually really unpack. Yeah, let's do it. I've done a lot of five-minute radio spots and kind of just this and that, but this is cool.
00;09;17;07 - 00;09;37;22
Unknown
So there was a stage choreographer, I will say, actually, I don't I wish I knew the official title because this guy is, you know, the choreographer to the stars. And I love that was one thing that was great about being on The Voice was working with the band or the stage director, and everybody was such a pro. Oh, such a pro.
00;09;37;22 - 00;09;53;01
Unknown
And I'd say, Well, so who do you know? Who do you who did you work with before this? And they just they just dropped names and I just go, Oh my. I mean, crazy. So that's really exciting. And that makes you go, okay, this is a big deal. But there was this guy, Paul, and he was out there.
00;09;53;03 - 00;10;17;25
Unknown
We didn't get much time to work with him and it wasn't a vocal coach. And when you go in this hotel conference room that we were staying at, this dry, just plain room. Right. But you work on your routine. And that was it's funny. Little like just like a good music lesson. I was with him for maybe 30 minutes, and I really think that that 30 minutes will I'll be able to unpack stuff from that for years.
00;10;17;25 - 00;10;36;15
Unknown
Wow. I mean, you know, and that's the way a great like guitar lesson can get, right? You know, they'll just give you these little morsels and you'll, like, chew on them for a long time. Right? So he just worked with me about about eye contact. And that's that's that's such a vulnerable thing as a performer. I think it is.
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Unknown
I mean, I, you know, Yeah, I think it is even in when I'm speaking, when I'm, you know, years ago in front of a jury, similar type of thing, where I got I actually got stage direction from a client, Todd McFarlane and they've done a lot of stuff. I'm like, okay, I'm listening with Todd says. And he literally, in his closing argument years ago, says, Walk here now, turn there now, do this.
00;10;57;22 - 00;11;20;29
Unknown
Had nothing to do with the substance of what he's saying. But he could see a presentation method that I could. So I just followed his directions and it was it was exhilarating. And I realized, okay, there's it wasn't stand here, do this. It was a way to move in to collect in a particular audience of a jury, which is different than what you're doing.
00;11;21;02 - 00;11;42;01
Unknown
But it was that unpack and I still think about that. So that's really cool. And I imagine so I love that word exhilarating. You know that. Because that's what I was feeling when I was kind of learning this these techniques from from Paul. And but I want to know what you think about this. You would you would get this information in this direction.
00;11;42;03 - 00;12;11;17
Unknown
But for me, when I went on stage, it did kind of go out the window. Oh, sure. Which is a beautiful thing, though. I think that's what makes a great performance. You know, like you still you have these tools and these skills and you refine them and practice them. But the the way to get the real magic and I imagine when, you know, if you've had any great epic courtroom presentation that should be in a movie, you know, I love I love courtroom movies, but yeah, it does.
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Unknown
You kind of get into that flow state where you're certainly not executing your career well. If you're thinking, I do this next, you’re not performing, you have to get that, I think. And that's when you're you do the practice, right? So that when you are alive, you are just drawing from what's already in you and you're not thinking that I'm going to pull this and I'm going to pull that.
00;12;35;09 - 00;12;54;14
Unknown
It's just happening and that's you, right? Flows. It's a really cool thing and I love watching you guys play. You, you and I want to make sure we talk about the Mighty Pines and your journey as a as an artist, too. But the thing I wanted to finish up with, The Voice, you know, you had the experience. We all were at a watch party with you.
00;12;54;14 - 00;13;10;10
Unknown
Yeah. You knew what was going to. That's what everybody was going to see before we all saw it. And of course, we all thought it was completely wrong. Yeah, You know that you didn't move on to the lives, but what was that like? Kind of knowing that? How did how did you deal with that? Because you and I talked pretty often.
00;13;10;10 - 00;13;25;29
Unknown
Yeah. And I purposely I don't know if you remember, but the day before you were singing in that last show, you texted me. Yeah. And said, I'm singing tomorrow to see if I make it to lives. And then you came home two days later. Yeah. I never asked you what happened, and I didn't want to ask you. I didn't want to put that on you.
00;13;25;29 - 00;14;00;23
Unknown
I wanted to experience it like everybody else. But you had to. I know. Hold on to that. I wondered if you suspected it because I just was giving you updates up until a certain point, But that was that was the hardest part about the whole thing. That was the only overall, the whole Voice experience was great. There was lots of little challenges or frustrations, but the only truly just unpleasant part of it, you know, was coming home at the end of February 1st for the next two months, just having to keep that under wraps.
00;14;00;26 - 00;14;20;06
Unknown
And yeah, I what can I say? It was just because here's why it was hard, actually, because most people that I would encounter would look me dead in the eye with all of the confidence in their heart and just say and not ask. You know, Did I make it to The Voice? They’d say, When are you going back?
00;14;20;06 - 00;14;39;20
Unknown
You know, when are you going to be all this stuff, you know, which I really do appreciate that people felt that way, you know, So I'm not. But that was Oh, that was hard. Yeah. You know, just to just to. Oh, I'm going back. I don't know. You know, I can go check my email. Maybe. Maybe they'll tell me soon.
00;14;39;25 - 00;15;01;27
Unknown
Well, or, you know, I can't tell you. Yeah, no, I know, but it was just in the moment. Those interactions are very nuanced and very. Yeah, they can just be vulnerable or uncomfortable, but, you know, I just grin and bear it and. Right. So I was actually relieved during to finally get to the show, you know, I was just like, finally, let's just wrap this thing.
00;15;01;27 - 00;15;24;28
Unknown
Well, and I remember when we were there with big group of family and friends and as soon as it happened, it took like 3 seconds and the whole room. I mean, I'm still getting chills thinking about the whole room stood up, standing ovation. I mean, it was really special. It was really cool. And it felt like we were we were part of the team, you know, And that's an absolutely for sure.
00;15;24;28 - 00;15;46;01
Unknown
Those those were the important people in my life that were there, I think. And a lot of family, a lot of musical insiders, including years throughout the years, just people that have been very influential to me and supportive and have great skills that have helped me throughout the years. And they were all there in that room. So it was really cool.
00;15;46;04 - 00;16;10;00
Unknown
So let's talk about something else that's really cool. Just recently you with your band The Mighty Pines, and I want you to tell the people who don't know The Mighty Pines, if you get nothing out of this whole podcast, go check out The Mighty Pines Band is amazing. You guys played at Ben Park outside outdoor concert series here in Saint Louis on an absolutely gorgeous, literally Hollywood-crafted sunny day.
00;16;10;00 - 00;16;49;19
Unknown
Yeah. In front of a huge crowd of another seven nine. I got to play with them the first time. What was that like? Yeah, that was one of the probably the biggest concerts I've ever performed. One of the most important and successful shows The Mighty Pines have ever done. Yeah, like it couldn't have. It was Hollywood that was the greatest.
00;16;49;25 - 00;17;16;04
Unknown
It was perfect. It was picture book weather. I don't know how we get so lucky with these outdoor shows because we do. We love to do outdoor shows and I bet, man, that's a huge gamble. And somehow just our track record is like really great over the years, which is amazing. Yeah, really amazing. But you know, we had the crowd estimates are a little bit all over the place and I'm on I'll be on the more conservative side.
00;17;16;04 - 00;17;44;28
Unknown
But I mean, there were 2 to 3000. I was trying to estimate that I think over 3000 because just a knowing sort of some other venues and roughly and I'm not a pro that at all but I feel easily 3000 plus it was amazing and everybody dancing and just and you had so let's get a little bit to The Mighty Pines Who are the mighty pines, you guys You've got your core guys, but then you've got some other sort of official unofficial meets.
00;17;44;28 - 00;18;08;21
Unknown
Really cool where we're at right now. The Mighty Pines are the original band that I founded with four three of my best friends, and we make original music, that is and let's say those guys names. So yes, I will introduce the band. Yes, we have John Hazen on bass, we have Mike Marino on drums and Gerard Kircher on mandolin and banjo and other instruments.
00;18;08;21 - 00;18;31;28
Unknown
If he felt like bringing them to Right. We need to get we're working on getting some roadies. We're building a crew, which is really exciting and good. And then, of course, and these guys are phenomenal musicians. Oh, absolutely. Truly, some of the best I've ever known and certainly the best and some of the best in St Louis. And then our unofficial becoming more official fifth pine would be Dave Greeley on the Keys.
00;18;31;28 - 00;18;52;24
Unknown
And it's amazing. It's been amazing. And of course on Sunday a one of our other close associates, Allie Krall on the fiddle, world renowned fiddle player who now resides in Webster Groves. How cool is that? You know, she's she's been brought into our fold. And on Sunday, we were we had the six piece band. I mean, it was definitely a moment on stage.
00;18;52;24 - 00;19;12;16
Unknown
We'd make music and I would just be like, Wow, I can't believe that we made it, you know, to that place. Like, I was thinking a lot about that show over the last couple of days and just I felt so proud and so satisfied that like, wow, we've really come a long way. Oh, we built it's been an organic band with an organic following.
00;19;12;16 - 00;19;37;13
Unknown
How many albums you guys have done? We have two studio albums and a live album, but we're so grassroots in terms of content. We've never had anything viral. We've been really kind of behind the times in terms of a lot of content, for better or for worse. Sure, it's just the way it is. But yeah, with all that said, we on Sunday we had 3000 people and those are organic fans.
00;19;37;14 - 00;19;52;24
Unknown
Now, some of them I'm sure you being on The Voice helped and there's no I mean, there's no way around that, no question. But to me, if all those people who saw you on The Voice decided that to come out and when you market The Mighty pines, it doesn't say Neil Salsich and the Mighty Pines. This is The Mighty Pines.
00;19;52;24 - 00;20;11;27
Unknown
Absolutely right. And so those people, if people discovered the Mighty Pines because of voice, I think that would be a pretty darn good thing to have happened. Come. Yeah. And it did. There was a major exposure, no doubt, because of the voice. And they would show up a little bit and you got to mention the band and see some pictures and stuff on them.
00;20;11;28 - 00;20;38;09
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. No, really, really cool. It was, it was a really awesome day. And so you, you know, you've, you've evolved and you're a working musician, right? You so this is full time. It has been for yeah, ten years. Yeah. Yeah. I'm losing count And this is this, this is a special morning actually to record this podcast because I drove here to downtown Clayton and parked in the, you know, basically in the building that I used to work in.
00;20;38;11 - 00;20;56;25
Unknown
Oh really? No. Yeah. When I ten years ago, before I, you know, left the office job and went to music, I was in the basically the same building. Right. Possibly slightly over. Yeah. There's like two towers that kind of connected. Right. So I guess the South Tower, that's where I was working, you know, So I just, I just kind of.
00;20;56;25 - 00;21;15;19
Unknown
Wow, it was cool. I was thinking, Oh, this is cool. I'm back. You know, I'm back here in this place that was so familiar. But. So we're going, Oh, man, I got to go to work. Yeah. And I was basically just getting paid a year. I mean, I was doing all this data entry, but I was just kind of making playlists on Spotify as I was working.
00;21;15;19 - 00;21;38;21
Unknown
And sometimes it's like, you know, find my supervisor and I'd feel the eyes over my shoulder and I have all these music tabs and I'm like, Oh man, I'm really not cut out for this. Well, you clearly are cut out for what you're doing and it's fantastic to have you. So I want to do some more than I did. I, we, I think I did this with you a little bit for one of the things that I like to do with guests on this podcast is I want to know what's on your screen.
00;21;38;23 - 00;21;52;17
Unknown
And I want to hear, you know, I always want to hear from people like what? What is that thing? Because we all carry our screens, us, right? We all have our cell phones. We may have iPads, we have a screen on the wall at home. We you know, we work on a laptop, which is a screen or whatever.
00;21;52;18 - 00;22;11;17
Unknown
So but I'm always curious what's stopping your thumb right now when you're scrolling? Is there anything that's grabbing you? Or maybe that's just when you're done with thinking about all the things you have to think about and you just want to relax? Yeah, Someone else tell you the story. What's on your screen? Well, there's like two answers to that because there's kind of just the scrolling and the stuff when you're on your phone.
00;22;11;17 - 00;22;35;25
Unknown
Not super intentionally. Is that the stuff that does stop my screen? You know, I'll give a shout out. This is totally spur of the moment. But there's a guy named Dan Wilson who I you should check out and I encourage all the listeners. They know his songs. He's written very many famous, famous, famous songs. But he has he makes amazing content for creators and he does these little snippets.
00;22;35;27 - 00;22;58;09
Unknown
I forget what his handle is, but man, it's just neat. It's cool stuff and it really does stop me because he'll have these maybe ten second quips where he says something like, If you've already used one word in your first verse of your song, it's okay to use it again later in the song. There's no rules for that little sort of little take aways.
00;22;58;09 - 00;23;21;06
Unknown
Yeah. Or like, almost like parables or something for songwriters and stuff. But he's got a million of them. He'll just post those. That's what will stop my screen. I love the stuff that he does, but that's one of many. So but that's really cool. That's really cool and very meaningful for you. Absolutely. So he actually he's a guy who's I really admire because he has been successful creatively writing.
00;23;21;12 - 00;23;43;11
Unknown
He's a founding member of Semisonic, so he wrote Closing Time. He wrote some of Adele's biggest songs with her, but so he's had all this success and yet he's he's still emerging into something new. He's like he's like creating this new persona as this songwriting guru on social media. And I don't know. So I got on a tangent about him.
00;23;43;18 - 00;24;04;05
Unknown
So that's kind of quick. That's really growing. But but if I'm really enjoying myself on my screen, you know, I'll be on YouTube because that's I think that is where that's the king of all content to me is I mean, all the social media platforms are great, but I think the one that will outlast them all and that already has, right, is YouTube.
00;24;04;05 - 00;24;26;22
Unknown
Well, everybody's going to be on YouTube. This will be on YouTube. I think no matter where else you are, you're also on YouTube or you're feeding to YouTube or something. Do you do this? So I will sometimes, you know, I'll I'll flip on YouTube. It's it's late and and I'm just and I may have started with a search but then and then it just goes and then two or three videos later I'm like, how did it get here?
00;24;26;24 - 00;24;48;29
Unknown
And an hour later I'm doing some rabbit hole and texting friends late at night. Dude check this out. I mean, so that's the best. Yeah, it is. And you can't really do that with other platforms as much. I don't think so. You know, my computer routinely is just like basically overheating because I've got like 36 apps open and they're all like three-hour podcasts or a documentary or whatever.
00;24;48;29 - 00;25;11;25
Unknown
But, you know, I just I'll go in there and watch music. I'm actually I will teach myself music like like as a professional. I mean, stuff that is deeply meaningful to my professional career. I'm learning on YouTube. I'm absolutely. Isn't that insane? I mean, so we're consuming it for entertainment, but it's like it's truly an essential part of my business.
00;25;11;25 - 00;25;36;03
Unknown
It is. I think it's I think that's true in a lot of professions that what the ability to tap in to other people's expertise, it can be as simple as I got to change the ring around my garbage disposal. I'm going to do a YouTube video, find out how to do that. But it's also these things, like you said, you just you there are so many experts putting out content and a lot of them are they're just someone else recorded.
00;25;36;03 - 00;26;02;04
Unknown
It wasn't something they sat down to you, but you can watch how somebody moves on stage or maybe somebody did something with a song or whatever. Yeah, yeah, I think it's wonderful. I think that's cool. I've actually in the last year, I've built something into my own practice routine and it's kind of nice to actually give yourself permission to do this because usually you think of vegging out and watching YouTube is not very productive or informative.
00;26;02;06 - 00;26;22;24
Unknown
Actually, I'll practice music for an hour or something and as kind of a cooldown, but I'll still I'll still you'll have your set up everything. I'll still build this into what you know, a valuable piece of my day will just be 30 minutes watching videos because it is informing what I'm sure I am studying what they're doing, even if I don't realize it right.
00;26;22;28 - 00;26;42;14
Unknown
If I'm enjoying the video and really being moved by the music like that's going to that's that's valuable. That's part of that thing you said before when you when you read all of the instruction you have, then when you get on stage, you don't think about any of that. But it's all part of you're drawing from it organically and you're just adding to the pool of things you're drawing from.
00;26;42;14 - 00;27;00;12
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. So, Pete, I want to know what's on your screen. I guess action. But I actually do want to know. So it's going to be something. Yeah. No, it's interesting. So when we my wife and I have this routine sort of that we, we have shows that we date together and then, you know, we have an open TV relationship, right?
00;27;00;13 - 00;27;18;11
Unknown
She's got some things she watches, I got some things I watch. But neither of us are terribly interested in the other. But we are just huge fans of Succession. Okay. You know, and it's one of those shows that is just train wreck after train wreck after train wreck in a way. But it just you know, and I know I'm not alone.
00;27;18;14 - 00;27;38;14
Unknown
So that's a big it's all the rage. Everybody's a big fan, but that's one. And we also recently watched a show called The Diplomat. And I don't know if you've seen this one, I think it's on Amazon Prime in it. Keri Russell Rufus Sewell It's it's intense. It's slow developing. You're thrown right in the middle of this situation.
00;27;38;14 - 00;27;57;23
Unknown
You don't know who anybody is. You got to unpack it over the course of episodes. Highly recommend. I don't even really know exactly how to describe it other than to say it's a diplomatic situation that goes wild. So that's one I would recommend if you're into sort of long form series TV, I would definitely recommend the The Diplomat.
00;27;57;25 - 00;28;18;17
Unknown
So isn't that cool how you know, when you asked me that question, I was thinking of my phone screen or my laptop screen and you gave an answer about a TV screen at all. But all of that is what's on your screen. That's the that's the point of the conversation. It really is. It's a role. And there's but and there's those those three worlds are so different to me, like the media that I consume on my phone screen.
00;28;18;19 - 00;28;40;01
Unknown
The media I consume on my laptop screen in my TV screen are all meaningful to me. But but man, do I think about them so directly and process this. And I don't know if you're I mean, one thing that's sort of always on my screen at the end of the day typically is Cardinals highlights the blues highlights or because it just sort of a it's something that's deeply ingrained and sometimes it means a really good night sometimes like, you know, like last year.
00;28;40;01 - 00;29;00;04
Unknown
Yeah, But no, I think and that's why that's why I love that question, right? Because it is it we live in a world where everything ends up on a screen, pretty much sadly, even books, even though that's like people, you know, the Kindle thing, I'll one day I'll probably be eating my own words and reading on a Kindle.
00;29;00;04 - 00;29;18;20
Unknown
Well, I but you know where I it's on a screen because it's on my phone, but I'm not looking at it. It's the audiobook. I'm a huge audiobook fan. I loved audiobooks and maybe the podcast world is like that and that's why I like it so much. So yeah, and that's why I consume so many podcasts and that and I didn't I wouldn't have thought of that as, Oh, that's on my screen.
00;29;18;20 - 00;29;32;17
Unknown
But it is. It is. I mean, you got to get it from somewhere. You set it down and you're listening to right? You're right, it's on. But you had to go touch the screen to find totally amazing. Absolutely. Neil, This has been a blast. It has been. Thank you. Yeah, you know, I. Should we finish up, sing a song?
00;29;32;18 - 00;29;56;21
Unknown
Well, you want your ratings to go? I don't know. Yeah, you're kidding. Oh, well, you mentioned a you mentioned the Burr and Shipley album, and somebody gave you earlier. My dad. Your dad. So. Oh, yeah. One last story. I know this is going on, but so your dad, my uncle, four years older than me, but your grandmother lived about a mile and a half from us when we were growing up.
00;29;56;21 - 00;30;18;04
Unknown
So I used to ride my bike over to their house. And Mike, your dad and Joe's brother, Mary. Cathy. If they were not around, I would go upstairs to their rooms, cut through their albums, grab one or two, ride my bike. And that's how I discovered Cream and all of the Crosby Stills in it. I mean, that was Neil Young is still probably my favorite artist of all time because I grew up.
00;30;18;04 - 00;30;36;19
Unknown
It was just deeply embedded, and I wanted to be like the cool guys. Which was your dad and his brothers? Yeah, and whatever they were listening to, I was listening to. And I never stopped in a lot of ways, really fun stuff. So very simply, yeah, one toke over the line. Ready? One, two, three, two, one. One toke over the line.
00;30;36;19 - 00;30;43;21
Unknown
Sweet Jesus. One toke over the line. Know one knows the rest of the song.
00;30;43;23 - 00;31;02;16
Unknown
Oh, man. All right, that's necessary. That's going to great. That's a what a fantastic way to end. Neil Neal, thanks so much. Neil Saul, Sick The Mighty Pines, The Screan Lawyer. This has been a blast. So check us out wherever you get your podcasts. We are there. And if you are watching this on YouTube, be sure to hit that like and subscribe button.
00;31;02;19 - 00;31;07;14
Unknown
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