Greg Pihs: Igniting Transformation Through Neuro-Linguistic Programming and the Walk Across Fire

Have you ever stumbled upon a conversation that would later redefine your entire perspective on communication and personal growth? That's exactly what happened to Greg Pihs, the mastermind behind GP Mind Growth Academy and an expert in neuro-linguistic programming (NLP). In a heart-to-heart chat, Greg takes us back to the moment that ignited his passion for NLP, sharing how these techniques reshaped his interactions with his son on the autism spectrum and sparked a revolution in his world view.

As we unravel the mysteries of NLP together with Greg, we confront the hurdles learners often encounter, like the misconception of its esoteric nature. Greg simplifies this complex subject, distilling it into the fundamentals of decision-making and communication. He offers up pearls of wisdom on the subtleties of communication, such as the impactful, yet understated, art of tonality. This episode is peppered with actionable advice that can shift the dynamics of your daily conversations and enhance your influence through the power of words, tone, and gestures.

But that's not all. Imagine standing barefoot at the edge of a glowing path of embers, the heat radiating up to meet you. Greg shares why he couples firewalking with NLP in his workshops, crafting a powerful metaphor for overcoming fears and shattering self-imposed barriers. Every step across the coals represents a stride towards unlocking personal potential. This episode isn't just a discussion; it's an invitation to experience the undeniable strength that lies within you, ready to be ignited.

https://gpmindgrowth.com/

Want a signed copy of my book? Get it here!

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:18

David A Specht Jr and negatives of that thing between our ears. This is Keep this In Mind, welcome to Keep this In Mind, brought to you by davidaspectcom and of course I am David A Spect. And today's show, folks, is going to be one for the record books. We're going to dive deep into that thing between our ears from a completely different standpoint. Today on my show I have my friend, greg Pease. He's founder of GP Mind Growth Academy. He is a neuro-linguistic programming master. Yes, I said master. He trains other people to be the same. He is a firewalking facilitator and that's a whole other story. But, greg, welcome to the show today.

Speaker 2 1:06

I'm excited, I'm doing great. I'm excited to be here and I love what you're sharing. I love this platform because there was a chapter Okay, it was a couple of chapters, but there was a long period in my life where I didn't know or believe that it was possible what we can do with our mind, how we're controlling our reality, and so I'm really excited and appreciative that you have this platform that people can just hop on, can just listen to some of this esoteric information and really maybe just have the realization or take their journey, you know, a step further. So I'm excited to be here and share with everyone.

Speaker 1 1:46

Fantastic. So, greg, I want you to kind of I can't say well, can we break down NLP, because it you know that's, that's a lifelong learning thing, right, you, you, you know you go through an entire process. But when did, when were you exposed to this concept and how have you applied it in your life and what were the results of that? And that could probably take up our entire time. But kind of break us down to the origin story of NLP in your life.

Speaker 2 2:17

Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I get it. We got to bring this into you nailed it, you know it's a lifelong journey to you nailed it, you know it's a lifelong journey. And then how do we bring this into bite-sized pieces for the listeners to kind of just grab on and like oh, nlp, that's what it is. For myself, the inception of NLP was eavesdropping. I was at a I think I was at an Einstein's bagel, I'm pretty sure I don't remember specifically, that's what I believe and I overheard two people having a conversation and I don't remember their exact words. I wasn't actually eavesdropping on them. Uh, prior to my attention kind of being grabbed. Um, it was a gentleman and a lady in. The gentleman asked the lady a question and the way he worded the question was very unique, so unique it commanded my attention and she had her own mini breakthrough in the second, in that moment. What was his exact question? It was so unique, like it literally was like what did he just say? Like I don't even remember it, it was just very unique. She had her own little aha and then she said, you know, asked him in her own words how did you know to ask or how did you form that, or how did you? You know, how do we get there? And he said, oh, I'm an NLP trainer and I had no clue, never heard of it myself at the time. And she says, oh, wow, she said that stuff's really powerful. She said, so, can you certify other people? He said, yeah, I certify other people. That's the end of it. That's inception of NLP for me.

Speaker 2 3:48

I went home and I was like, what's this powerful thing? I heard something in the background with these words. So I went on to researching it and found the company that I felt credible to work with. I still knew nothing about it, no one talked to me about it. No two-way conversation has taken place, but I still knew nothing about it. No one, no one talked to me about no two way conversation has taken place. But I felt I really felt called to this. I can't explain logically why it would make sense to do it, because logically I don't know that it makes sense. It was the most money I had ever spent on myself.

Speaker 2 4:18

I was going to Orlando for nine days for this first training and it's completely in a different direction than where life was kind of heading. But again, I really felt called to this. I went through that first training, that nine days, and I had my own breakthroughs, ahas. But at the same time, in nine days, let's be real with everyone, let's be real Like I definitely am on a new track in life after nine days, like I'm seeing things a little bit differently. But myself I'm like questioning, like is this real after nine? I'm like, is this real? Like I'm I'm kind of like to say kind of like they definitely we had conversations that I can't look at my past the same, no more, just based on questions that I was asked and realizations that I never consciously held. They always existed in the world, but I hadn't consciously held my thoughts in this way before and now I couldn't unsee what I had.

Speaker 2 5:14

Now saw, when I came home, my son he turned today is the eighth. Yeah, yesterday he turned nine years old. Yesterday he was five when I had started this journey and he's slightly on the spectrum and at the time was fairly nonverbal. And when I got home I started communicating with my son differently, from a place of curiosity, a place of curiosity, I started. I started to start it to where we're nine days into this journey. If you will, it's very a small amount of time. Now these are like 12 hour days, but still.

Speaker 2 5:51

So, out of curiosity, I started learning oh, how we're speaking to ourselves and others has a neurological and physiological effect. So so, you know, I was led through and I had, I had my result, and then I'm I'm like, but is it? Is it actually real? Like, did what they're saying they used? Is that what happened? So, out of curiosity, I'm trying this with my son and I immediately start getting vastly different results from him, like in the moment, right there. So much so that my wife, she would watch interactions and then she would say how did, how did you do that? And and at the time I didn't know how to explain, you know nine days of 12 hours of information. So I would just look at her and I'd say it's magic, babe. She'd laugh a little bit, but eventually she got curious. Um April of last year she went and got certified. Let me kind of pause there. That's abstract. We can kind of get into the details anywhere. What questions arise, david?

Speaker 1 6:53

Well, first off, nine days. That's a huge amount of time and I would venture to say that you felt like you were drinking from a fire hose the entire nine days you were there. Then you walk away from that environment and we know that rooms matter, right, the rooms you stay in the most, the rooms you get in the most, affect your trajectory. So you come out of this room of like-minded, like-learning, you know aha people, and now here you are, back in the potential rut of life, but yet you're trying to apply what you've learned. What did the first obstacle feel like? What was your first obstacle to embracing and living this out?

Speaker 2 7:56

And how did you overcome or work through that obstacle? Okay, okay, great question From when I got home, I was all in. And so when I got home, like when you were saying that, I was like, shoot, I didn't. I didn't have many obstacles on it, like one didn't pop up. But as you were talking it like it came to, I was like, oh okay, we definitely had an obstacle when we started NLP. Okay, so nine days, so so I'm going to share with everyone.

Speaker 2 8:16

I don't remember the exact ticket price, but, um, it's, it's hefty. And then there's the Airbnb and the rental and the flight and keeping business afloat while I'm gone. So we're way, we're well into the five figures for this situation. Now, for me, at this time, I've never invested this kind of money on self and personal development. So I'm freaked out like this is like an a lot of money for self at the time I go out there. Now, remember, I have not had a two way conversation about NLP yet. I still have no clue what it is. I am literally like, feel called to this, like more than and normally I'm a fairly logical person. Okay, so I go out there and I don't know anyone that's attending. I don't know people in Florida Like I'm just like ta-da here, I am let's NLP, and they start talking about within the first day.

Speaker 2 9:13

They start talking about using your imagination and imagining things and by the end of the second day, when we talk about what was that first hurdle and how did we overcome it? I have a picture that pops up on Facebook frequently. I'm like sitting there on the bed and just look like crap. I called my wife. I was like sitting there on the bed and just look like crap. I called my wife. I was crying in the hotel room. I genuinely believed that these people duped me. I thought I couldn't like. I was like heartbroken, because I followed my heart and I was all in and this was an insane amount of not just liquid capital but energy in my life. And I felt heartbroken because they're like imagine this stuff. And I'm like there's, you're not, you're not charging me that amount of money to tell me to imagine it, like we need to do it right. And they're like no, no, no, you don't need to do anything. You've been doing all of it up till now. You need to imagine it. I'm like they're, they're pulling my leg. They're like no, no, no, you don't need to do anything. You've been doing all of it up till now. You need to imagine it. I'm like they're pulling my leg. They're pulling my leg. I'm in the hotel room. It's the end of the second day. We're nine days long, so we still have seven days left.

Speaker 2 10:13

I'm crying on the phone to my wife. I like seldomly cry in my life prior to this, um, but, but it like brought me like this was like huge for me. This was very heavy in the moment and, uh, I'm telling my wife like they do me, they're telling me to imagine things. I can't believe this. And my wife said to me she said well, you know, it's really odd that you're out there doing this. Um, everything's already secured. Maybe you'd take it across the finish line and, just you know, make your final assessment at that time. But I'm so hurt I'm like I don't want to even like. I'm thinking like, like, like you know, like I don't want to keep brainwashing myself in this direction. Is is kind of like where I'm thinking in this hotel that night.

Speaker 1 10:59

Okay.

Speaker 2 11:00

And I get done with my. My wife shares with me. She says, you know, hey, maybe you know that's her, and other than that, you know she's. I support you. Come on home If you're ready to come home. I'm sorry that this happened.

Speaker 2 11:21

And her advice was again, like it's not logic. It was like what I felt called to do. I committed to myself. I was like I'm going to go all in on this experience, but like this was to myself, like I wasn't telling my wife I'm by myself and I'm like I'm going all in. So you know, if they say, imagine that there's an elephant in the room, like I'm going to smell that elephant, Like this is to myself, like this is to myself. And what I committed to myself was at the end, if this is bullshit, at the end, like I'm going to be the biggest whistleblower. Nobody is ever going to have this experience again. That was the moment, like two days in, like I was get over it, like I didn't know. So, like when we talk about faith and belief, like I did not have fact or evidence that this was going to work. I chose to just ride on faith and believe that this would work and to actively participate in the journey at the end of that seven, the next seven days, at the end of the nine days, like I definitely was like whoa, like things are a little bit different now and before I turn this, I want to grab some feedback from you, david, and your thoughts Before I do.

Speaker 2 12:33

I know people are like imagination and thoughts. What's he talking about? Well, when we talk about process and trauma, I want to share with everyone all of the trauma. So what happened in my childhood only exists in my memories. That's the only place that exists my childhood. So for me, greg, for my trauma, we've had trauma as adult as well, but the heavy stuff for me was childhood. And even as an adult, if it happened yesterday, it only exists in my memories.

Speaker 2 13:00

And if I asked everyone listening to this right now to tell me about yesterday, you can tell me about yesterday, but only after you pause for a second and pull the memories of yesterday into your conscious awareness. And then we could say where did they come from? And I'm going to suggest your unconscious mind, or that of your imagination, holds all of your memories. Call it your imagination or call it your unconscious mind. But if we're going to process trauma, we have to go to where the trauma is and it's not right now consciously with us. This was a lot of now, in a lot more depth. This is a lot of the realizations we had in those nine days. Let me send it back to you, david. That was that first big obstacle. Like almost didn't even make it to the finish line of the first training, and overcoming it for me was committing with faith that I was going to participate and see what happened.

Speaker 1 13:55

You've mentioned the word faith multiple times and obviously you know we live in the South. It's a you can call it the Bible belt, you can call it whatever you want One of the things that I have seen through the people that are our common associates who have been through this training. There is a lot of what you would call, you know, christian believers involved, because I think they may be predisposed to understanding the concept of faith. You know, having having faith in the existence of something that you can't see, taste, touch or smell, right, and I also believe that we are a created being and in in the fact that we are a created being, there are certain things that were created within us that the creator intended for us to tap into and utilize in this journey called life, and I've seen so much evidence of it.

Speaker 1 14:58

The mind is obviously the biggest one, right, the ability to even have faith in anything is a key thing, but I've even talked to people like chiropractors who talk about how the nerves in the back and how they spread out and they flow healing to the physical body. You know there's reflexology. There's you know, it's not all middle. You know not all Eastern arts and sciences and religion stuff. This is actual by design things. So, as I'm hearing you, it takes that same mechanism of faith to understand how our brains are wired, to take the experiences of the past, but also to be able to take imaginations for the future and bring them together in the present to create the energy, momentum, et cetera, for how we're supposed to move through this life. And that's really, in a nutshell, what you teach, right.

Speaker 2 16:05

Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, and oh go ahead as a teacher of that.

Speaker 1 16:11

I guess then the next question would be okay, here was your obstacle, and that was oh, I'm back. You know, this is, this is a brainwashing session. This is all crap, it's. You know, it's mumbo, jumbo stuff. What do you see as the most common obstacle of your students?

Speaker 2 16:30

Ooh, so let me that's a really good question and for everyone. Listen now, would you suggest, let me. Let me borrow a little context, or we can answer both. Are we looking at before they go on the journey of NLP or when they?

Speaker 1 16:44

when they launched the journey of NLP, I would say let's say somebody, somebody has seen your video of somewhere somehow. They saw a share, they saw a reel, they saw whatever. And they're like Greg, I need you to tell me about this NLP stuff because it sounds very interesting. And then once you start telling them, and then you not going to say make an offer, but make suggest. Now I want to start by sharing my.

Speaker 2 17:06

I love the question because I love watching patterns, like that's what I'm doing with humans, like we're watching the patterns and then, and then we can begin to predict and form the future for for ourselves and help others as well. Uh, it's very important that what would be the biggest I think the biggest uh hurdle but perception is projection is how esoteric the information is, um, and so what I mean by esoteric, like most of us have heard it for the first time, but, oddly enough, nlp is, uh, it's esoteric because it's like when you tell someone like all the, all these answers and the algorithms right here, it's like, well then, why? How am I just hearing about it? Well, no one owns NLP. Uh, it's not trademarked or copyright, so most people learn NLP. I'm just, I'm just kind of pulling the veil back, sorry. Everyone, uh, most people learn NLP and they go out and white label it and call it their thing yeah, so you, you didn't know you heard NLP, but you've the whole. Everything is NLP, almost Um, so it's all, yeah, yeah, okay. So so this is where the thing is like. It's almost hard for people to realize because it's like, well, if it's all of that like, why haven't I heard about it? And so I think that might be now.

Speaker 2 18:34

Perception is projection. Oh, by the way, that was my hardest roadblock, so I can see others roadblock because it was what mine was. So I think that might be the hardest one. But, to add context, it's hard for me to say it's hard. I don't track that algorithm very tightly because, knowing how esoteric this is, I can only feel comfortable accepting someone's money if they know and decide and come to me and say, hey, I'm ready. It's important for me to not close people because it's too esoteric. You're only ready for this journey when you're ready for this journey. And it's actually only you that says when you're ready for this journey. Does that help us with a little bit of an answer? I think the esotericism. Esotericism, is that a word?

Speaker 1 19:20

Don't get me.

Speaker 2 19:21

I'll mess up.

Speaker 1 19:24

But, but as a you know, obviously, as a concept, yeah, you're right, you can. You can find pockets of what NLP teaches everywhere. Right, I mean, you can even go back to the manifestation movement and say, well, they're just really embracing a version of NLP, maybe at a more grand level. But if you could reduce it down to two or three sentences, to two or three sentences, what would you reduce it down to?

Speaker 2 19:56

Okay, I love it. So I love that, the sentence that I like if I was reducing it down to one and for everyone listening, this isn't fair to put NLP in one sentence, but the sentence that Greg says I suggest that it's the study of how we communicate and form decisions. Nlp is the study of how we communicate and form decisions. Nlp is the study of how we communicate and form decisions. When I say communicate, the word communicate is consciously chosen. Our communication.

Speaker 2 20:27

Some of us have heard, maybe some of us hear them for the first time. So 73855, the words that I'm saying right now are only 7% of the communication. My tonality, if I drop it down, or if I pick up my pace and I get excited, or if I put in pauses, this is 38% of our communication. So literally, you know over five times the amount of communication is taking place because of how I'm saying my words. First, which word I pick, and then a whopping 55% David, we talked about how we use our hands a lot. Mine have been all over the place A whopping 55% is our body language. Well, what about our body language and what about our tonality? And what about our words, words. So this is where it starts to break down the study of communication and then how that has a neurological effect, creating the decisions that we make cause on our reality. Yeah, that's where I'd put it in a sentence study of communication and how we form decisions.

Speaker 1 21:37

And that really kind of. Again, I love how you said NLP is not new and you know, and if it's all this thing, why haven't we heard of it before? And it's really because it's never been rarely been codified as that. But I think about everything you talked about are all little snippets of lessons I've learned in my entire life. Right, you know, they say look somebody in the eye when you're talking to them. It's the reason behind that whether it's ever been identified as that is the neurological response to the neurological effect that that has on somebody. In fact, I learned a trick years ago that a banker taught me. He's like look, if you have trouble looking people in the eye, look at their ear. They'll never know the difference. Oh, love it. And so it was like oh, so I knew that I needed to do these things. But really what you're saying is, nlp teaches me why I need to do these things and the results of doing those things in my own personal life and in my own personal journey.

Understanding Tonality in NLP Communication

Speaker 2 22:40

Absolutely and even going further. You know we're going short, but to give like just a little bit more. So people have an understanding not just what they are, why we need to do them, but also well, I'm sorry not just why we need them, but also what they are so like. When we talk about our tonality, we know it has to do with something about the sound of our voice. But our tonality, like in NLP, gets broken down into tone, tempo, pitch, uh and volume, and then so what are each one of these things? And then each one of these things get broken down and then we start learning. So, for example, our, our tone has to do with how high our voice is. So right now I'm bringing up my voice really, really high, and it doesn't sound that unnatural for me to speak all the way up here. And while I'm speaking I can start to bring my voice down and it's happening at a very natural pace and we're getting down into a very low tonality and I can speak inside of this tonality and nothing about this tonality seems odd and even though I keep talking, you don't really realize when it happens. I'm raising my tonality right now and there's a neurological effect. This can pull people in because it's kind of inquisitive, like what is he talking about? But when I drop the tonality down like this, this pushes people in a state of relaxation because I can trust that this guy knows what he says. So this starts breaking down into OK, sure, sharing that for the listeners to kind of hear, like when we talk about what is tonality and what do you mean breaking it down and how do we use it. Well, am I trying to draw someone in or am I trying to share that? Hey, I understand this, I got it. You can relax, I'm going to take care of it because, regardless of the words, I can just use my, just my tone. And inside of tonality we had tone, tempo, timber, pitch and volume. We only went over one thing inside of one compartment of the communication To give a little bit more of like a preview, like like peek through the window, like what does he mean? Like when we're learning NLP.

Speaker 2 24:31

The dilemma with with NLP, when people do learn it, you asked like earlier, like before they dive in, what's that roadblock? I'll be candid. The dilemma with after people learn NLP is like okay, now I know there's all these things to my voice, there's all these things to my body. There's all these things to which words I choose. And then, when we get done learning it, the dilemma is like well, what do I do with it? See, that's why a lot of people choose to white label NLP. Nlp doesn't tell you what you should do, only what's possible for you. We have to be the one that's responsible for the decision, because it's our future we're going to create.

Speaker 1 25:12

I think you know one of the. If there was a key word that pops into my mind through all of what we've discussed so far, it's intentionality. Right, it's not going through life and relationships just as it comes and being reactionary. It's more of an intentionality in everything that we say and that we do, because we know that that intentionality will produce a result.

Speaker 2 25:39

David, if your listeners took nothing else away from this episode but that that will change their entire life, consciously decide what is it I want and be intentional about going after that. Like that, that, that like when I'm talking to this person, what is it that I'm intentionally trying to convey?

Speaker 1 26:12

I love that, I love that you brought that up. That's, I mean, that's, that's a reason for the awkward pause, guys. But I, I want, I want to springboard this, because you brought into your your mission and it seems like it's been relatively recently. It may not have been, but the idea of of firewalking, walking on coals, Obviously, you know, somebody of my age remembers, you know, the big Tony Robbins moments where they, he would come to the you know whatever hotel and they would have like the coals outside. You know, and that was the big, you know, finishing moment of taking control of your life and your and everything. Tell me, you know, here we are. You know Greg's gone through the nine days, he's now you know all, he's been all in, he's he, he's, he's made this his life. Now, all of a sudden, he's like there's something more, there's something else, that that that I feel like needs to take place, kind of take us through that journey and then take us through the why behind, why you think everybody should, at least. I love it.

Speaker 2 27:17

I love it. I love it. Okay, let me for the for the listeners listening, after we did that nine days, um, uh, I go, I go back several times for trainings. Uh, 14 days, 21 days, things of that nature um, become an? Uh, an American board certified neuro-linguistic programming trainer.

The Power of Firewalking and NLP

Speaker 2 27:34

Once I reached the level of trainer, in those nine days, I wasn't a trainer. Once I reached the level of trainer, in those nine days, I wasn't a trainer. Once I reached the level of trainer, I was capable of certifying people at the practitioner and the master practitioner level. So I launched the training academy and I began certifying people because of my why in the NLP. Really, my biggest why was first, this was for self self and I was like, oh, I think this works. For whatever reason, my convincer, my, my meta program in order for me to be convinced. Uh, I didn't consciously know this until I experienced it, but when I saw the change with my son, I was convinced. I was like this works with anyone. Then, like this works with anyone, we got to get this in everyone's hands. Okay, so then we, we, we start uh in a conference room, we start teaching this information. And because I'm an American board certified trainer and own the training Academy and I'm in the front of the room. Everyone's like, yeah, okay, and I'm sharing valuable information. But I but I realized, um, there was a gap. Uh, there was a gap in they're hearing me're seeing a demonstration and then, and then we're we're using our imagination to create a breakout session where they're imagining that there's this problem they're solving and this does work, and, as a trainer, you just have to control the energy in the room so everyone can be in this state, so they can have the experience. But I thought to myself man, there's got to be a way where I can create the experience that I want undeniable, like where they have to use these tools in the workshop, and an undeniable level.

Speaker 2 29:12

Now, with that being said, this was just pondering in my mind. I wanted to, I wanted to, I wanted to share NLP at a more powerful level, and then a peer of mine, an NLP trainer, a peer of mine, reached out and said hey, I just did this firewalking experience. She said you'll absolutely love it, it's incredible. And I don't have logical understandings to share with you guys. I'm an Aries and maybe that means something, maybe it doesn't mean something. I had no more questions. There's plenty of things that I don't do and I have no more questions. I'm like that's not for me, like more than not. That's how it actually goes. When this fire thing, much like NLP, I was like where's the tab, like let's go, I'm in. I didn't have any more questions, like I was called to the fire. So I went and had my experience. Absolutely, I mean, it's a, it's a life-changing experience. So so let's share a little bit about what is that experience.

Speaker 2 30:07

Why does someone walk on fire? Firewalking is an ancient practice. It's actually over 4,000 years old, I believe. The oldest record of firewalking, I believe, dates I believe that we have, I believe, is from India and it's over 4,000 years old. Now, why would someone walk on fire?

Speaker 2 30:22

Well, for everyone, listen, and I don't think there's any good logical reason to be walking on fire. So why do we do it then? Right, it's a metaphor. It's a metaphor. There's absolutely no trickery before you walk on fire, and before I walked on fire like I almost went because I had to see the magic Like what's the trick? Like do we spritz the coals or something? Or like do we spray them with powder? And we'd say, do we put something on our feet? You know, it's like I got to see the trick and then there's no trick. And then they're like by the way, you're next, and there I am, standing in front of the coals. I'm like, well, you didn't give me the trick yet and you're left believing that this is impossible. The coals are 1200 degrees and aluminum melts at 1100. You're left believing this is impossible.

Speaker 2 31:08

But if you're willing, there's only two things that we can do during this experience. First, we got to control the controllables. So what are the controllables? I can't control the temperature of those coals. I can't control how they're going to feel on my feet, but I can control how I place each foot. I can control how fast I walk. I can control what I think about. I can control what I look at.

Speaker 2 31:36

So intent, what is my intent? Why am I even standing here Like I'm not? I'm not. There's something that I want to break through. So I focus on the successful completion of this. I focus on being on the other side and having my breakthrough.

Speaker 2 31:56

I submit to the experience. No one can make you walk on fire. Don't ever do it. If anyone ever tries to make you do it, even if they tried to just verbally convince you a little bit, because it's on you to be present in the moment and receive from the fire, and no one can make you do that. You have to do that. Well, how do I receive from the fire? You're going to have to use your imagination.

Speaker 2 32:17

Once I focus on the desired outcome that I want and I have my focus relentlessly tied into just this thing, there's only one more thing I can possibly do to get across, and that's just take the next step. And when we do that and we get to the other side, you have an undeniable experience. This experience much like the reverse of someone getting PTSD or PTS. It didn't take two car accidents for neurology to be rewritten and them not to want to get in the car. It only took one. It doesn't take two times for you to walk across these coals for neurology to be rewritten. You will not be able to run the program of fear the same way you ran it in the past. When the opportunity of fear arrives in your business, you'll get focused on the desired outcome that you want and just take the next step. So this is what firewalking was for me.

Speaker 2 33:24

Now, inside of firewalking, I got certified in several other modalities walking on broken glass, breaking arrows with your throat, breaking bricks, breaking boards.

Speaker 2 33:33

And then for me, I merged these together with the NLP certification. I created a highly immersive experience and now, when I take people through, it's a five-day retreat. You'll stay there the whole entire time, from time you show up to the time you leave. And now I teach you these tools to say things and imagine certain things, to be in a certain place and have a certain power or understanding. I teach you how to position your body, to be in a confident state. That is an undeniable experience and that all sounds cool. But then I give you an opportunity where fear is present and you're capable of getting in this physical state and saying these words to yourself and realizing, right in front of this fear, how powerful you are and how powerful you feel. So for me, firewalking I didn't consciously know it before, I just kind of again felt called to it, but it was that thing I was unconsciously looking for so I could create that immersive experience. So I'm not just telling you about NLP. You're having the physical experience utilizing these tools before you even leave.

Speaker 1 34:41

That's powerful because I would say, one of the failings of modern day personal development events, the failings of modern day personal development events, whether it's a retreat, a one day boot camp, whatever is the lack of practical application before leaving. Yeah, yeah for sure, and I tell people this all the time. I said look, the very first thing you need to do when you will leave an event is implement one thing. I don't care what it is, I don't care how small it is, because you will lose your momentum and you will fall back into old habits. You know, I would venture to say that if you had not applied the NLP teaching to your son immediately upon returning, you would have fallen into the same trap or could have fallen into the same trap. So the idea that you whether you put the two together or not consciously, the idea of all of these you know experiences on site that you're creating, was almost a not a copycat, obviously, but a similar set of circumstances to what you experienced. Because what you did was you're like, I immersed and then I applied, and what you're doing is you're immersing them and then you're having them apply it in a, whether they think it's safe or not, a safe environment to, like you said, neurologically reprogram so that when they are in the world and they are away from the controlled environment, they can apply it with confidence. That's right. That's right.

Speaker 1 36:21

So I think this brings us to the plateau, if you will, of our conversation. Plateau, if you will, of our conversation. If I was listening to us, my next question would be okay, what do I do next, or what do I do first? So my question for you, as we try to land the plane here a little bit, is number one how do they find you? Number two what's this look like? Because you said I don't want anybody coming to me, that's not ready. What does getting ready look like? I think those are the two basic best questions to answer as we wrap up for today.

Speaker 2 36:58

I love it. I love it. So, um, in terms of people, uh being able to reach out or being in the vibe, um, would it be okay? Uh, can I share uh some website links? Is that an option?

Speaker 1 37:08

Yes, so go ahead and verbalize it for those that are like in the car, but then I'll also include them in the show notes for those who want to go to the, go to the website and see the show notes.

Speaker 2 37:18

Perfect. So for those who listen in and are watching, I'm gathering more information. A great place to do that it's probably going to be gpmindgrowthcom. So, gpmindgrowthcom, you'll be able to go on there and there's absolutely nothing for sale on that page at all. So just information. If you wanted to schedule a time to have a discovery, call you better, do that on there.

Speaker 2 37:38

Facebook is going to be a great place to connect. Just right on my personal page or whatever it is, greg peascom you guys be able to. If you're watching, you can see that name and for those of you listening, my last name is ship, spelled backwards, oddly enough. So Greg Pees. Yeah, we can't miss that one now.

Speaker 2 37:55

So social media is a great community right now, 100% free for everyone.

Speaker 2 38:11

I'll keep that posted on my Facebook page and people are going to be able to go in there and really get content and determine that like, hey, this is the community, it makes sense or it doesn't, before they're spending any money or going any further, and before people get too heavy into getting certified in NLP and things of that nature, and before people get too heavy into getting certified in NLP and things of that nature, gp Mind Growth Academy also hosts one day, firewalking events almost every month. So if people are looking to just kind of just get a little flavor, a little transformation, there's options out there for everyone. David, I really appreciate getting to be on here today and share this information with everyone. This platform we need more of these platforms, more of these conversations. There's people listening today that I know have had some incredible aha moments and even going to take those and run, and the trajectory of that in 10 years just completely and totally alter their life in a positive manner. So I appreciate getting to be here.

Speaker 1 39:05

Thank you, greg, so much for being on the show today, and I will. I close the show out with the same phrase, and I say this every week and it's almost, it almost sounds disingenuous because I say it every week, because I'm going to if you haven't written it down, write it down. It's not knowledge, that's power, it's applied knowledge, that is power. Apply that knowledge that you've learned today and you'll see it, your life will change for the better. For it, I guarantee it. God bless everybody. Thank you so much for being a part of the show today. Thank you, greg, for being on the show today. Remember applied knowledge is power, god bless. That is going to do it for this episode of. Keep this In Mind. For more, visit davidaspectcom. Like, follow and subscribe. Thank you for listening and remember applied knowledge is power, God bless.