The Power of Genuine Encounters with Amanda Banks

Unlock the transformative power of mindset with my insightful guest, Amanda Banks of Create and Innovate Solutions LLC, as we embark on a journey from the competitive world of gymnastics to the courage-fueled arena of public speaking. Our conversation traverses the landscape of human connection, underscoring the impact of reaching out and the principles that bind us despite our differences. Amanda's story is a beacon for introverts and a playbook for anyone preparing to step onto the TEDx stage, proving that the support of community and the exchange of knowledge are stepping stones to personal growth and triumph.

Step into the art of authentic relationship building within the sales domain, where curiosity and sincerity reign supreme. Amanda and I delve into the essence of asking the right questions and the pivotal role of follow-through in nurturing trust. We'll navigate the delicate balance between leveraging digital tools and nurturing the human touch, sharing real-life tales that showcase the indelible mark of heartfelt interactions on both your career and personal life. This segment is a testament to the fact that, even in our tech-saturated world, the warmth of genuine connection still holds the key to lasting success.

To cap off our enlightening session, Amanda and I reflect on the profound truth that knowledge is not just to be consumed but applied. I extend my deepest gratitude for the wisdom she's imparted and encourage you, our listeners, to carry these insights forward into your own endeavors. Whether you're a fan of deep, meaningful encounters or seeking to enrich your professional network, remember that the magic lies in the quality of each connection you forge. For those eager to continue this journey, my website awaits with additional resources. Let this episode serve as your springboard to deploying knowledge for empowerment and personal evolution.

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:02

Hello there, I'm David A Specht and I want to be your coach. If there's anything that I've learned in my 30 plus years of leadership and coaching, I have learned that mindset is everything. Join me and my guests as we explore the positives and negatives of that thing between our ears. This is Keep this In Mind, all right, welcome to Keep this In Mind, brought to you by davidaspectcom. And, of course, I'm David A Spect and today, who believes in non-random, random encounters. So today on my show I have Amanda Banks with Create and Innovate Solutions LLC, and you may not know her, she may not know me.

Speaker 1 0:51

This is a little conversation we had offline, but I saw Amanda at Jim Morris' Impact Effect event in Nashville back in October. And if y'all know me and I've been very transparent about this when it comes to networking events, when it comes to being in big crowds, I am an introvert and I don't meet people well in those scenarios. It's something I'm working on. Again, we're all on life's journey and we're all trying to improve, but what I always do when I go to an event is if there is some form of contact information whether it's a speaker, an emcee, somebody that I want to meet I will always send them a direct message telling them how much I appreciate what they did, how much you know, and if there's anything I can do to help. Well, I did this with Amanda and she responded and she goes oh, how nice, nice to meet you. Hopefully we can cross paths. And this has been like a DM relationship on various platforms, from LinkedIn to Facebook, to text, to email. It's just been in all the places.

Speaker 1 1:54

And I finally reached out to her and said look, amanda, I think you're amazing. I think that you have overcome so much and you are working through so much and you have such a heart to help people, to help. Because you always ask the same question hey, how can I support you, david, how can I help and support you? And I think that is needed in this world more often than not. But we are all on a journey where we have to overcome certain beliefs or certain upbringings as we progress through life. And I know this is an extremely long introduction and I apologize for that, amanda, but I want to kind of give everybody the picture because, it is true, we're not alone. None of us have arrived, and I just want to kind of pick your brain for the next few minutes about how your journey went. But first and foremost, welcome to the show. Glad to have you here today.

Speaker 2 2:46

Well, David, what an intro. Holy cow, no pressure. I'm looking forward to this conversation as the listeners are tuning in. This is the first time that I think we've ever really spent some time face-to-face talking, so I'm just excited for the conversation and I can't thank you enough for having me on.

Speaker 1 3:02

Absolutely. Let's dive right in. So when you were on at Impact Effects, you were one of two MCs. One of the things I noticed and I don't know if this was something that Jim put on y'all or not, but y'all came out after every speaker and shared your takeaway notes. Is that something that you generally do? Is that a habit that you've developed and, if so, how did you develop that habit?

Speaker 2 3:28

You know. So shout out to Jim Morris. That was an incredible event, by the way, and that was by design. You know he leveraged both me and Neil. So Neil Flora was my co-host and he wanted us to basically share our insights in regards to each and every one of the speakers. You know, neil and I have vastly different backgrounds. Neil was very extroverted. I am naturally very introverted as well. So, david, I can relate to you on that. But ultimately, it was all about empowering individuals with knowledge, and so we all have unique ideas, unique knowledge that we bring to the table. And that was very specifically by design, because we are vastly different people and we wanted to leave the audience members with really good quality information and takeaways that maybe help spark an idea for them and their businesses.

Speaker 1 4:18

And along those lines, you know one of the things I've learned, and maybe you have too, because you have a you know. Look, folks, go to her LinkedIn, click on her link tree. I mean, you have a long history of trying to help elevate others, whether it's in their business or whether in their personal brand. But what I've found and maybe you can speak to this a little bit as well regardless of the background, regardless of the background, regardless of the upbringing, regardless of the education level, there are certain principles that are universal, and being able to pull those principles out of whatever environment you're in, I would say, is extremely beneficial, wouldn't you agree?

Speaker 2 4:58

Totally agree. Totally agree with that.

Speaker 1 5:01

So let's talk about your journey.

Speaker 2 5:04

Okay.

Speaker 1 5:05

You've not always been a speaker, but speaking has been a part of your journey for a long time. But you're a self-admitted introvert, so kind of tell me what was that? Like you know, from the first time you took a stage, did you have stage fright? To working your way to a TEDx talk? And folks, I hope she talks a little bit about that process because it's not like you just raise your hand and go, hey, I want to do a TEDx. I mean, there is an actual, very demanding process you go through before they fire up the camera and let you speak. So kind of tell us your speaking journey, because I think that'll go dive into a lot of mindsets, maybe some limiting beliefs that you had to overcome and such.

Speaker 2 5:45

Yeah. So let me take it back a little step further to give some context.

Speaker 2 5:48

So for those of you that are listening, I was a high-level competitive gymnast, so I was very much a high-level competitive athlete at a super young age and in gymnastics it's all built around perfectionism, the perfect 10, and some of these other challenges that don't play super well into public speaking, right? So in college I had to give a speech and I like totally lost it, cried, couldn't get through it. It was about gymnastics. Like I swore up and down I would never do public speaking ever again. Like that was off the table and my career took me into sales and strategic partnerships.

Speaker 2 6:26

So even though I wasn't, in quotations, a public speaker, I did have to become comfortable with presenting into groups or speaking into groups or you know, it could be a million different scenarios, right.

Speaker 2 6:40

But I was typically speaking to high level corporate executives, and so we think about in quotations, public speakers and people being on stages. But I think that there are a lot of steps that you have to take to get to that place and if you have a massive fear of public speaking cameras, you have challenges around perfectionism and some of these other things, which I did and I still have to overcome my own challenges in regards to this. It took years and years and years to just feel comfortable enough to step foot on a stage, and even then I have to constantly convince myself of these things. So to your point, like public speaking isn't something that comes super naturally to everybody, and I think that we all have challenges around vulnerability at times when it comes to being a public speaker or speaking. But I think it's a skill that we all can learn to hone in on and we can get better at. So I hope that paints a little picture of the public speaking journey. There's so much more that goes into it, but that's a little bit.

Speaker 1 7:42

The ability to articulate is a much needed skill, probably exponentially more now than any other time. I mean attention spans are shortening the internet with reels and TikTok and such everybody's wanting it in a minute or less. You know we used to learn the term and I'm sure you learned this in your sales training as well. Know your elevator pitch. Be able to tell people who you are, what you do and what you have to offer in the time that it takes to go from one floor to the next on an elevator. What have been some of the challenges you have found in the people that you coach on how to hone their craft and be able to articulate who they are and what they do?

Speaker 2 8:31

So there's a level of understanding who you are as a human being that I don't think that we all dive into right. So some of the challenges in regards to being and becoming a public speaker is like you have to know very clearly who you are at your core, and that's not with all the labels. It's not I'm a CEO or I'm a founder on this. On that, I think the really good public speakers understand authentically who they are as human beings and then how they deliver value and the messaging that they, that they bring to life and the stories that they create. So it's as simple as just knowing who you are authentically. But that's one of the most challenging things to do as well, because we have to hone in on our own stories and who we are and the value that we are here to deliver to deliver as human beings.

Speaker 1 9:17

You know, as I, as I continue down life's journey and I'm going to, I'm going to turn you into the coach of Dave for a minute. Oh geez. So. But here's the thing, and I see it happening more. Pat my generation back. You know younger than me, but I turned 55 last month.

Speaker 1 9:40

And if you were to say, hey, david, who are you and what do you do? There is a laundry list of skills that I've developed. There's a laundry list of experiences that I've had. There's, you know, to bring it down into a succinct label, if you will, is almost impossible. And I look at the generations behind me. Yeah, you're going to laugh, but we used to make fun of people who, like, job, hopped Right. You look at their resume and it's like, oh well, this person can't stay anywhere. But the truth of the matter is now we have like six jobs and your resume have six different levels of experience, but they're all saying you know 2020 to present, or whatever. You know 2020 to present or whatever. What is, how would you help somebody codify who they are when they have this portfolio of skills experiences? You know, I'll let you talk, because I go on and on about it here.

Speaker 2 10:39

Well, it's interesting, right, and it's a journey. You use the word journey, so I don't lean into that. So, as this journey of identifying who we are getting involved in, opportunities or different types of projects like we're constantly iterating on that in quotations pitch, I take people through. It's a very simple exercise, but it's pretty profound. And you write a couple of things on a piece of paper like who are you, what are you passionate about, what the skills you have? You know there's a lot of different components to this, but ultimately, in a room full of people, you can imagine this. I asked them to fold the piece of paper and then tear out a corner of the piece of paper and fold the piece of paper again and then tear out another corner and ultimately, what happens is when people open up that piece of paper, it's almost like this moment of oh my gosh, it looks like a snowflake, right? But everybody's looks vastly different and out of every single person on this planet, nobody's words and piece of paper is going to be absolutely identical. So I think we put so much pressure on ourselves about all of these labels pressure on ourselves about all of these labels right, but what I would want to encourage is. This is a continuous journey and all of those different things go into who we are as multifaceted human beings.

Speaker 2 11:54

So, to your point, I have an organization Create and Innovate Solutions. Out of that a project is TEDx, old Hickory. Out of that are some other things that I do, old hickory out of that, or some other things that I do. And I think we get fixated on labels, not not as fixated on who we actually are as human beings, right? So, for example, I say I'm a creative entrepreneur that is deeply passionate about helping amplify voices that matter. Well, that plays into all of the things that I do, but it's very short and succinct. That opens the door for somebody to ask well, what does that mean? Right, and over time, I've developed that through asking people questions of like, how do I serve? Like, if you could describe what Amanda Banks does, how would you describe that? And it's constantly listening to those stories and crafting something that is just meaningful, based around human connection.

Speaker 1 12:56

I love how you finish that phrase with human connection, because I believe that is probably the single most lacking thing we have that we are connected more than we have ever been, but the quality of connection is probably the least it's ever been. And one of the things that I have seen and I'd like for you to speak to this a little bit too is we've become very transactional in our interactions. I mean, I think it was you even that posted what makes you mad about when somebody does a pitch to you as a DM on LinkedIn with absolutely no context and no relationship built, but yet what I would say over 50%, probably over 75% of the DMs that you receive on LinkedIn I know I do is a pitch. It's a pitch right out of left field. So how do we take people from this very transactional mindset to a mindset of building authentic relationships? Because I believe that it only takes one or two authentic relationships that will provide way more benefit both to yourself and to the world at large, than 50 inauthentic transactional DMs.

Building Authentic Relationships in Sales

Speaker 2 14:20

Yeah, I think that when we're I think from a sales perspective we're taught more, more, more, more, more right. So we're conditioned around more, more, more followers, more, more, more information and content out there, more, more, more connections, all of this stuff, and to your point, I believe that a community is built one person at a time and it's about how do you build that relationship and how do you provide mutual, continuous value. So I lean with curiosity all the time, like I think one of the biggest things that you can lean into through connection is curiosity, like ask questions instead of pitching constantly. Like ask how you can serve, ask how you can provide value, ask for what resources people are looking for, and then to deepen that relationship.

Speaker 2 15:06

David, I don't know how many people like you talk to that just don't follow through with what they say that they're going to do, like you can't build a relationship if you're not following through with what you say that you're going to do. Right. So I lead with curiosity, but I also do what I say that I'm going to do so, if I'm going to make a connection or if I'm going to open the door in this specific thing, like I actually do those things, and that builds a relationship over time. If you continue to lead with curiosity, ask how you can serve, do what you say that you're going to do, and keep the conversation moving. I think that's a lost art, right we're. We're focused on more, more, more, build, build, build. But there's so much beauty in just being able to navigate and know how to keep the conversation moving and how to continue to develop the relationship over years.

Speaker 1 15:55

So in in the and I didn't know we were going to go down the sales path, like when we started. I love it because because I'm in the and I didn't know we were going to go down the sales path like when we started.

Speaker 1 16:01

It's okay I love it because I'm in sales. In fact, one of my mentors used to say we are all in sales 100% of the time and the number one product we sell is us. Yep Technology and you know, tools are wonderful, but I believe that they've diluted authenticity. I'll preface it by saying this Look, I believe in things like CRMs. I believe in things like utilizing AI to do the things that anybody can do, so why take my time to do those things? But when does it cross the line of authenticity? Where it's inauthentic? Now, I mean, let's face it, I believe an email newsletter is of value, if it's of value, regardless of whether it goes to 10 people or 10,000 people, but at some point it just becomes yet another automated thing, right? So kind of tell me what your thoughts are on where the line may be crossed between inauthentic and authentic relationships.

Speaker 2 17:16

As it relates to technology.

Speaker 1 17:17

As it relates to technology.

Speaker 2 17:18

Okay. So I just want to make sure that I that I lean into this. So I'm no artificial intelligence expert. I do have a technology background. I did enterprise sales and strategic partnerships for technology companies, so I have that, that background, and I would say there's so many tools out there and the reality is is like, as individuals, we can smell that a mile away. So, for example, if you're using like a chat GPT to create content, copy and pasting that content, like people are starting to become aware of the inauthentic nature of that.

Speaker 2 17:49

Where some of these tools like you mentioned become really good resources is if I'm stuck on an idea or I'm stuck on something and I need a framework to kind of help me outline something. That's a great use case on how I leverage chat GPT. But chat GPT can't replicate my human voice, right? So, like I have led with creating authentic influence digitally, I help other people do that as well. And, like, if I were to copy and paste something from chat GPT, like people would know hey, what is going on with her? Like, is she okay, right? So I have that unique, authentic voice and I think where, where you have to stay in the guardrails of like is the integrity piece right.

Speaker 2 18:32

Like I wouldn't feel good about copying and pasting something from chat GPT because that's my mission, like that's my value system. Like I just don't want to use those tools in that specific use case. If I feel like something is inauthentic or I'm not leaning in with integrity or I'm not providing the best quality resources from me as a human being, then I shouldn't do it. So don't do it. So I think everybody has to start asking themselves those questions, because everybody feels vastly different about the tools and the resources and the tech that they're using. But if it doesn't feel right, then don't do it. Leverage it for a way that feels authentic to how you're going to promote or how you're going to build content, or vice versa. That was kind of a rabbit hole, but ultimately, like we as individuals have to identify what is authentic, what is in alignment with integrity, and then leverage the tools to enhance not to completely shape and build who we are as human beings.

Speaker 1 19:31

So we've talked about speaking as a tool and as a process as far as building who we are and what we are.

Speaker 1 19:41

We've talked about technology and leveraging it, but not allowing and I don't mean to put words in your mouth, but not allowing it to replace us Basically keeping who we are, but leveraging it as a tool to help us be us in a better, more profound way. Now, as we're seeing all of this, there's going to be those people that are like yeah, but they're like yeah, but my Facebook feed is full of, or my Instagram feed's full of, and so they think that is the measure of success or how to get to success. Speak to the power and you may have some examples in your own journey the power of authentic human connection that leads to ultimate success. Whatever that definition is, it can be monetary, it could be impact, it could be opportunity, but, like you have a story or stories. I'm sure your brain's going right now about like, if I had not connected with this individual in an authentic way, then this wouldn't have happened and I couldn't have done that with. You know, me standing in front of you telling you you'll be successful if you follow me, yeah.

Speaker 2 20:50

Since we're, since we're talking on the salesy side, I want to talk about it from that perspective because it's really powerful. I think that when we think about relationships, we have expectations that this is going to happen overnight, right? So LinkedIn is a great resource for me. I've built my community on LinkedIn. I have a massive engaged community. So it's not just quantity of numbers, it's like engagement.

Speaker 2 21:14

And, for example, a couple of years ago I met a lady through another connection that we just had to get to know each other call. She was starting a business. We were I was starting a business. We were just talking about our journeys and getting to know one another and there was no business to be had, like there was no need that I could solve for her and her business at the time. But because I'm deeply curious and I'm compassionate about other people, I like to stay in contact with people and cheer them on, support their journeys, and you know we're years into this relationship and out of nowhere she reaches out to me and is like Amanda, I have this problem. You are the person that I thought of. Can you solve it? We have a week to do so and I'm like well, I am the perfect person to solve this problem. Let's run this as a project. We'll move through it as quick as possible and we'll get you the desired outcome that you're looking for. And so that good friend that was just initially a LinkedIn contact has turned into a client, which is a very happy client, and we've got an incredible relationship. And we're talking about deeper strategic partnerships, and so that's one of a million examples that I can provide around.

Speaker 2 22:24

It's about relationship. It's about developing that human to human connection and always serving and supporting, even if there may be no business to be had in the future. Right, like the transactional mindset is like oh, I'm going to do X Y Z just to get X Y Z outcome, and for me it's the opposite. It's how can I deliver value, build a relationship and, if they need me, use my services or use a connection that I have to ultimately better their mission? So, trans, I don't understand transactional Like, I can't speak to that because this is how I live, eat, breathe and I have done it my entire career. But that's the investment is pouring time and energy and love and compassion and resources into your connection so that over time, they could potentially become clients or they could connect you to clients or who knows they could have an event and need a speaker. You just know, you never know Right. So it's the human to human connection that's important.

Speaker 1 23:26

So I'm going to, I'm going to tag on to that just a little bit and say that you know, because I think that there's probably people in the boat. They're like, look, I've been giving and giving and giving and nothing has come back Right, isn't there also a piece of the puzzle that says people have to know that you can serve them Like you have to let them know what it is that you can do to help them. And is there a way to position that to where it doesn't feel? I hate the term sales because I believe sales is an admirable, noble endeavor. Sales is just merely finding somebody's problem and helping them solve it and getting them to the place of making a decision. What are some of the best ways to let people know, not just you, which we would say, but what you do so that building your relationship, they will think of you, that this, this is somebody who can solve my problem.

Speaker 2 24:23

So you have to advocate for yourself. So I've done a terrible job of this over time and I've had to learn how to be a lot better right, if we are continuing to grow ourselves. There's multifacets of all of the things that we can do to help serve other people, right. So it's advocating for yourself and it's asking for hey look, these are the resources that I'm looking for. Do you know anybody that could benefit from my products and services?

Speaker 2 24:50

So we as individuals, especially solopreneurs I'm a solopreneur I have to get really good about advocating for myself and asking for help. I'm bad about that, but asking for help is something that we all should be doing, and I believe you're literally one connection away. Like, everybody has problems that they need solved and it's just a matter for to your point being front and center and asking and advocating for help, and it's hey look, I've got this new service coming up. Do you know anybody that could benefit from this? They're simple questions, but oftentimes we're terrible about asking. We can ask for other people all day long, especially if we're serving where we lead with service, but asking for ourselves tends to be very difficult.

Speaker 1 25:33

Yeah, if you were to ask the audience at large who's bad at this, I would be like just barely raising my hand because we're all bad. You know, I won't say we're all bad at it. Grant Cardone knows what he's doing, apparently. But the key I want to I want to get back to what you said is you're one connection away and I feel like so many times we're trying to get a thousand connections. We are, our perspectives are skewed Right. The idea of a success, you know, let's go. Let's go back to a real or a Tik TOK. Seriously, I mean, if you see, if you did a real and you went and looked at your analytics and you saw that 250 people viewed it, would you feel positive or negative about that experience?

Speaker 2 26:22

I would.

Quality Over Quantity in Human Connections

Speaker 1 26:22

I would feel very positive, like I'm okay with that, like it's just one person, like I'm just looking to impact one person right, and I think that's the perspective shift that a lot of people need to have is they don't need a million followers, they need the right one follower. And I think if we were to, you know, bring everything that we've talked about, and I know we've gone to here, to here, to here. You know I get it, you know I have conversational ADD. Hey, let's go here, let's go here. We haven't even talked about movie quotes yet. Put it all under one umbrella. It is the shift in perspective that that quality trumps quantity just about every time.

Speaker 2 27:14

I agree and I once again, we're looking at data and analytics and like there's quantity metrics and I understand corporations like there's just different metrics that we have to have to lean into. But for me it's like, if I understand corporations, there's just different metrics that we have to lean into. But for me it's like if I'm building a community, it starts with one person. If I can build a great reputation and continue over time to show up compassionately and all the things, it's not just a metric, it becomes a human being. We're so focused on numbers and that's important, right?

Speaker 2 27:46

I come from a sales background, I'm an entrepreneur, I'm a soul, like I get it. But we have to understand these are human beings and we all ultimately want one thing we want to feel cared for, we want to feel loved, we want to feel like what we're doing matters. And if we start looking at the metrics around human connection, it's a little bit different and I think that that then plays into a magnitude of financial numbers, because people are happier Connections, you've got bigger connections and networks, but it's an investment of time in humans.

Speaker 1 28:21

Well, amanda, I don't know what to add to that, because the truth of the matter is, behind every sale, behind every yes, there is a life and in that life, that life wants the very things that you talked about.

Speaker 1 28:42

So I mean I'm, I'm sold. I mean I'm sold, I'm not trying to sell. What I mean by that is so many of us and I'll put myself in that category do get bogged down in the grind. We're just trying, we're grinding, we're trying, we're just trying, we're grinding, we're trying, we're trying. We know we have something to give to the world and we get frustrated in the lack of, you know, amazing progress, you know, by the world standards. But that shift in perspective that the one life matters, the one person, one connection away from a major impact. I believe if, myself included, if all of us could get ahold of just that concept, not only would we see success in our own lives, but that the world would be a much better place by and large. So I'll give you the final words to, to, to, to carry us off, and also, please, please, let people know how they can follow and get ahold of you.

Speaker 2 29:47

Oh, thank you for that. I was just going to say, you know, we look at competition as former athletes, so this is something that I've had to really work on, as well as competition and it's playing into all of the human connection, right, if we believe in abundance, then we believe that it's connection over competition. So, like there may be people that you know, david, you could serve that I can't, right. So, as you continue to build a community, if you're looking at it from a perspective of abundance, right, if there's somebody that I come across that I feel like, oh, this connection could be better served by David, I'm like, over, thrilled, enjoyed, because you and I have built that relationship and your products and services may be a better fit for what they're looking for.

Speaker 2 30:30

So to me, once again, it's all about human connection and it's about building relationships, but it's all about continuous mutual value exchange and it's a long game play. It takes time to build reputations and relationships and all the things that go into that relationship, but ultimately, like I feel, like to your point, everybody would be happier and healthier because it would be around a place of service versus competition and solely the number sales, which, yes, is important. I'm not disagreeing with. The numbers are not important, but the approach, I think, can be vastly different than transactional based sales, which is what you were talking about earlier.

Speaker 1 31:10

Absolutely, and you know I think about. I would rather serve one person extremely well than five thousand people just taking their money, people just taking their money and at the end of the day, I think that is what's going to be the difference maker moving forward for people in the service, consulting and coaching fields, because we have the scattershot coaches out there. We have the one to many's out there and we're not saying one to many's bad, we're just saying that one to many is saturated right now and and and it's people looking for somebody that they can look in the eye, even if it's through a computer screen. Share them and and get some real answers and I also like there to your point.

Speaker 2 32:00

There's a lot out there right now um, good, bad and different. There's a ton out there and do your research. Like, if you're going to engage a coach or consultant, like, check their recommendations, check you know the work that they've done, check their reputation, like these things matter. If you're looking to make a big shift in your life, in my opinion you need somebody that's not just going to tell you how to do it, but it's going to support you in that effort. There's so much noise, so many things out there right now that I would just say, like, do your research.

Speaker 2 32:34

And that's why building relationships, reputation, all these things are super important and over time, like the proof is in the pudding right Like just go, just go and check the things out, um and so that's really important to me and I would just encourage anybody that, if they're looking for those types of services to implement into their lives or their businesses, do your research. The proof's in the pudding.

Speaker 1 32:53

Awesome. So, amanda, how can people follow and get in touch with you and all the things that they can do to respond to this message that you're trying to share to the world?

Speaker 2 33:05

Yeah, thank you for that. So I'm super engaged on LinkedIn, so find me on LinkedIn. You can also hit my personal website, wwwamanda-bankscom. I have all sorts of good stuff up there, but I provide a ton of free resources. So if you're looking for good quality resources that are not salesy oriented, definitely grab my newsletter. I try once a month to not spam and provide good quality information, but I appreciate the conversation and I'm always open to connecting with other people. So if you're listening to this and I can be a resource and don't hesitate to reach out.

Applied Knowledge Is Power

Speaker 1 33:39

Fantastic. Well, thank you, amanda, for being on today, looking forward to what what comes out of out of this conversation for those that are listening and remember, folks, it's not knowledge that's power, it's applied knowledge that's power. So, begin to apply what you've learned today and I guarantee you you'll move the needle in your life. God bless. That is going to do it for this episode of. Keep this In Mind. For more, visit davidaspectcom. Like, follow and subscribe. Thank you for listening and remember applied knowledge is power, god bless.