Tried & True With A Dash of Woo
This podcast is about integrating tried and true strategies that we know actually work - in life, business, self-help; with the science of unconscious programming & the magic of manifestation. I’m a certified life and business coach and a professional photographer who built a multiple six figure business with a degree in Psychology while being a mom to three little kids. I had zero business training, so I dug in, learned the methods and now I’m passing that all onto you! I’m a self described brain geek and have certifications in things like RRT, NLP, Neuro-encoding and Amen clinic brain training and I’m always interested in hearing what you have to say on the topic of brain rewiring too. In this podcast, our conversations range from photography how to’s, systems and business strategies to more woo-woo stuff like energy healing, human design & the basics of manifestation - because well, I’m just kind of all over the place. I know that most creative entrepreneurs ARE a little neuro-spicy so I want to fire up your super charged brains and show you what’s possible.
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Top 5 Signs You're Ignoring Your Intuition & How to Fix It with Jenn Cohen
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Jenn Cohen shares powerful insights on recognizing when we're ignoring our intuition and practical strategies for clearing mental static to access our inner wisdom. We explore the subtle differences between fear-based thinking and intuitive guidance, revealing how to discern what our intuition is really telling us. And also:
• Five signs you're ignoring your intuition: anxiety, irritability, carelessness, short-temperedness, and burnout
• How to tell the difference between fear and intuition through bodily sensations
• Practical strategies for reconnecting with your intuition including nature immersion and breath work
• The importance of noticing intuitive hits without judgment when they happen
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We all have had those energy vampires that just kind of suck us dry. That's not what our intuition is there to serve us with, and so, by understanding that my intuition is coming in with the highest, most loving, most beneficial messages for the greatest good, you can already feel the difference there. And that's what's going to come in, because that is what you are asking for, and they will not give you anything that you are not asking for.
Speaker 2:Welcome to Tried and True with a dash of woo, where we blend rock solid tips with a little bit of magic. I'm Renee Bowen, your host, life and business coach and professional photographer at your service. We are all about getting creative, diving into your business and playing with manifestation over here. So are you ready to get inspired and have some fun? Let's dive in. Hey friends, welcome back to tried and true with a dash of woo. I'm your host, renee Bowen. I hope you guys are all having an amazing week.
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Speaker 2:Today's guest. You guys, I'm talking with Jen Cohen today and we have a really interesting and awesome conversation all about how to know these five signs and actually probably a little bit more than five signs that you're not paying attention to your intuition, and how to get back into alignment with that. After a life-changing experience in her 20s, jen explored how intuition could shape her life and her career. She spent 27 years in the entertainment industry and she found that intuitive decisions often led to success, and so now, as an intuitive consultant, she helps individuals and organizations as well unlock their potential, gain clarity and achieve their goals through practical intuition-based strategies. So her work fosters growth, creativity and purpose in both personal and professional realms.
Speaker 2:Jen and I are super aligned. We have a phenomenal conversation about all things intuition, how to really hone in on that, how to know when you're not operating from a place of intuition, and how that really relates to strategies and business as well. So let's dive in. Hey, jen, thanks so much for being here today. I'm really excited to chat with you about intuition and five signs that we're ignoring our intuition. I wanted to just start really quick, though. Dive right in and find out like what brought you to this journey with Intuit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, first of all, it's great to be here, so nice to be on your show. I love it. I'm a regular listener and get a lot from not only you but of things that might not necessarily be what we're taught to see and what we're taught to look at, to have a family that encouraged that. Even though they were educators and in education, teachers and counselors, they really supported my way of looking at the world. And I had a tragedy with my dad passing when I was at a young age.
Speaker 1:Um, uh, and he came to me the night of his funeral and, uh, with, with the signal of um, some lights flashing. I was, I was lying on on his side of the bed and it was pitch black in the room and it was just kind of calling out and the light flashed on and off and on and off and I asked if that was him. The light flashed on and off and on and off and that really signaled to me that there were. You know, I knew on some level that there was something that we couldn't see, touch, taste, hear, feel, and that was my entry point really into trusting in that in a way that I could see physically.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I love that because it was like sort of like one of those undeniable like okay, is this really happening? I'm interested too, like had you had glimmers of things like that happened to you before that and you were just sort of like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was. It was, it was great to have a supportive family. But you know, as as with all of us, we're taking cues from our culture, we're taking cues from other children at that time and you know, I would say something and I kind of get like a funny look and that stays with you. And so it was doubt, and I wasn't always ready to speak up about that, and there was a part of me that would then say, oh, I'm an introvert. Or people would say she's an introvert, she's an introvert.
Speaker 1:And once I was able to have full trust in that knowing. It was like I'm an introvert around people that I don't really share this knowledge with, but I'm pretty much an extrovert when I get around people that I can talk about this really freely and openly. And so it was finding my tribe, it was finding people. And then I discovered I worked 27 years in the entertainment industry and I discovered that, you know, I could connect with people on this in a way that they were timid to bring it up. And so having that trust, having that belief, having that knowing allowed doors to open for others to feel more comfortable talking about it, which is so gratifying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I get that, I totally get that, Like I definitely self-identify as you know, I think I am an introvert at the heart of all of this, but it makes a huge difference. I think it's more of just that. I just don't have, maybe, patience or desire for small talk about silly weird. You know what I mean. It's like let's get into like the real stuff, Totally, like when people are like, okay, I can go there with you. That sounds fun to me. So, absolutely, absolutely, yeah. So I want to. All, right, let's get into this whole the signs. You're ignoring, your Absolutely, absolutely much overthinking, right With these creative, spicy brains and anxiety or whatever it is got going on, and so it can be really hard for a lot of people to discern. So, yeah, what do you think? Those signs?
Speaker 1:are yeah. So before we get into the signs, it's really important to recognize. You know, in our brain we have two hemispheres the left hemisphere, the right hemisphere. The left hemisphere is critical thinking. It's linear, based Intuition, can only live in the present moment. That's on the right hemisphere, and that's the creative thinking brain. The left hemisphere is, it's really fear-based, it's looking for, it seeks differences and it's looking for ways to judge and to be very cautious. And then the right side of the brain, the creative thinking, where intuition lives, only lives in the present moment and it's very expansive. It's also non-verbal and it's flexible, it's compassionate, it's imaginative and it's curious. And so it's just. It's a good starting point to remember that we have these two hemispheres of our brain that are really looking to connect with one another and work as a whole brain. And what happens a lot of times in especially the environment that we're living in right now, is that the left brain because it's pretty much where society has taught us to operate from takes over and it becomes that portion that is the bully of your right brain, and so this can show up in anxiety when we're anxious.
Speaker 1:When I was in my corporate job towards the end, when I knew that I was really ready to get out, but just needed a little bit more time for myself to make that jump. Irritability, oh my God. I would say everything is so irritating. I would say everything is so irritating and that was something I remember when I finally decided to take the leap. I said to a friend. I said I'm just so tired of being irritated every moment Prone to making mistakes. Carelessness is another sign that's moving too fast. That's kind of you know, I've got to do this, I've got to do that. Your mind has your left brain has taken over. You're looking at either you know something in the future or worrying about something in the past, ruminating on that. You're not in the present. Short-tempered, being aggressive is also a good sign that you're not in your intuition. And the last one, which I think that's six, but I'll say it anyway is when you're stressed out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and burnt out right Like that level of burnt outness.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That is a lot and so, yeah, I mean, it can be really hard to, especially, like you said, you know, we can't control very much of what's going around, you know, around us and in the world. We can control our actions and reactions and things like that, but I feel like a lot of us are, we do tend to like default to that, that reactive state a lot as well, especially if you're online a lot and, like you said, like that left brain, we have been sort of programmed to value it, I think, in just in various ways. Right, and how do you then? Okay, so we can recognize, right, like, so these are some of the things that are coming up for you. Um, then you start to recognize all right, I'm, I might not be operating from the place of my, my highest good. Let's say, what would you suggest as that next step in diving deeper Sure?
Speaker 1:Yeah, the first, like you just mentioned, is it's awareness, and that's that you've probably had this or your listeners have probably had this, where you know you have had five fights, imaginary fights before you become aware. Like my gosh, I just went through five different scenarios with different things or people and I'm super tense. It's awareness. This happens to me in the shower when I was about to go into work, where it's like if this person says this you know, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah and and I would catch myself and the quicker I practice or the more I practiced it, the quicker I would catch myself. So then it went down to maybe three fights and then it went down to a half of a fight. And how I would combat that just in the moment very quickly is I would just switch.
Speaker 1:And we all know about gratitude. It's out there, everyone talks about it and there's a reason that everyone talks about it is it just quickly gets you out of this kind of fight or flight state and it gets you in that present moment. So just in the shower, for example, it was I'm so grateful for this warm water, I'm so grateful for this soap, I'm so grateful for my arm that I'm lathering up. I mean it can just be really, you know, quick, and then it just gets you out of that. So that's one way to get out. And then for, like we mentioned, carelessness or making you know making careless mistakes, that's simply slowing down and our breath is our greatest asset. The body follows the mind and the mind follows the breath. So if we can just take some clear breaths and what I really like to do is make an audible sigh as I breathe out, it, just it again. It kind of vibrates in your body and allows your body to know we're clear, we're good here, and it gets you out of that fight or flight state, short-tempered, aggressive. You might just need to go outside for a minute.
Speaker 1:You know nature is I say it's the ultimate sage. You know being outside, you know if it's a sunny day, just you know, just basking in the sun, kind of feeling it on your skin, it allows you again the pause in order to get away from the irritable situation that you're in, and allows you to focus on nature, focus on what's around you and take some deep breaths. And when you're able to do that, there's a signal that I like to do, which is I just kind of call in my intuitive self and as I breathe in, it's almost like you see a light coming down through your head and into your throat and then into your heart, and like you can just sigh out. But then you can. I use a phrase and it says we're here and we would like to share with you and in that moment it's kind of like you've given over your frustration and you're trusting what's coming through is for your greatest highest good.
Speaker 2:And that phrase really resonates yeah, that's really, that's very powerful. I think that's a really great um strategy for people to think about, because I don't, I think it's a little bit and I love how you put we you know we're here right, because it does it takes like you and your ego and like the self out of the equation.
Speaker 2:Truly, I I mean, yeah, we're wanting to tap in to that. You know, deeper, deeper part, the I like to call it my higher self or but at the end of the day, like, yeah, there's that. Allowing, I think is just really important because we do live in such a reactive state A lot of the time. It's really hard to be intentional with that desire to receive the information and you kind of have to be sometimes. You have to be really intentional with yourself about that, you know, and just kind of stop. I always tell people like I had a come to Jesus moment with my unconscious mind, you know, in my closet, like when the, the self-doubt, self-doubt or the imposter syndrome stuff starts kicking in, it's like okay, okay, okay, Hang on.
Speaker 1:Right, you know who's talking here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly Like. Okay, so I like that that we're here.
Speaker 1:Right yeah.
Speaker 2:So I know a lot of my listeners, and myself included, as a creative, just in general, you can deal with a lot of self-doubt and imposter syndrome, especially if you're owning your own business and you're out there doing all the things and trying to be the voice of everything in your business, right? So it can be really hard to wear that low pressure. How can we tell the difference between what is something that is really fear like, what is actually something super fear-based self-doubt, and our intuition? What's a really good way to discern that?
Speaker 1:Sure. So when you're in fear, you can notice in your body a constriction. You can notice your maybe shoulders are going up, but everything feels really tight and it's almost like you know you. You see animals that are in fear. They, they'll almost stop for a minute and like just pause and kind of look around and that's the. That's the feeling that we feel, that we feel when we are in fear.
Speaker 1:And when you're in in your intuitive state it feels very expansive. You know there's it's it's confidence and clarity versus fear and uncertainty. That's probably the best way to see it. And if you still can't, really well, is this confidence? Is this confidence? You know there might be.
Speaker 1:There also can be a little bit of hesitation if you're a little bit scared about moving out of your comfort zone, and so that's a different kind of fear, because there's almost like a little bit of excitement in there as well, but fear of like you're paralyzed, where you can't move forward, that's very constrictive. That is telling you. Okay, you have a story that you are continuously telling yourself. That is not only making the fear palpable, but every time that you tell that story to yourself, you're tripling and doubling and quadrupling the fear, and doubling and quadrupling the fear. And so when we can catch that quickly and we can say it's almost like you're making a U-turn back to yourself and you can test yourself and you can say, like I would say, jen, is that fear true? Okay, so if I decide to leave this job right now, x Y, z is going to happen.
Speaker 1:And while I was leading up to leaving my job, I went through that stage and I probably could have left about two to three years before I did. But when it was time to go, my intuition was like absolutely not time to go. My intuition was like absolutely not that fear, like I had feared and, like you know, thought of all of the things keeping me back for those two to three years. But when my intuitive self was like now is the time go, it was. I did not pause for one second and it was the perfect time. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I feel like you know, I kind of always mentioned this to people too is like there's, there's power in the piece, right Like so. If you can tune into it and it feels, like you said, any sort of resistance, any sort of Christian constriction, it's not, it's not really the thing, right, but your intuition, like you said, it's. You know, I really believe. But also, don't you think too that the more you just like anything else, the more you trust it, the more you really build that muscle of intuition, the easier it is to listen or at least lean into.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, absolutely. You know, we in the knowing there is no, as you know, the typical language that we talk, and so it becomes where, if people are questioning you on that, it's just kind of like oh well, that's how I'm going to do it, you know, that's me, you know. You know, that's me, you know, and and it it becomes less resistant of how they're going to react to how you move. And that's where your intuition is looking for your trust, because how I move might not be how somebody else moves. And and that's what's so beautiful about our intuition is it's custom to us.
Speaker 1:It reaches us in the most profound ways that we are able to get ourself into a place to receive it. It's not really our job to hunt down our intuition. It's our responsibility to put ourselves in a place to receive it. And that's very specific to you. For me, it's nature Some people music, some people dancing, some people singing, some people drawing, some people reading. But how you are able to get yourself in that place, you will know when you get that signal. When you get that sign, and it is beyond doubt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think too right, the key there is to notice it when it happens, so that you can really train your unconscious mind to want more of that as well, because it's like oh okay, let me stop for a second, Because I feel like there's been so many times I know in my own life where those moments have really sometimes happened and I'm I just sort of like brush it over, right.
Speaker 2:It's like you know you might even be busy or whatever, and when you reflect back though, you realize, oh no, no, that was actually a really powerful moment and so your intention is is behind. It is really important, I feel like as well, and noticing these pieces. So that's why one of the things that I like to do nature is definitely one of my strategies as well for honing that intuition. But reflecting at the end of the day is really important for me, because I do so much in a day. I'm one of those people. I just do a lot of things.
Speaker 2:A lot of us do, and even though you're doing a lot of things, sometimes you can feel like you didn't really accomplish that much or do that much.
Speaker 2:But if you are very intentional about no, no, let me just think about what actually happened today, and maybe it was this one moment that came through, when I was working with one of my clients or something and taking out my highlighter, and highlighting that for myself is really important, because I want more of that, right. I want to focus more on that and our unconscious mind is going to believe whatever we tell it. So if I'm constantly telling it, gosh, I really didn't accomplish that much today, well, you know, it's going to, it's going to look for more of that and I want to be intentional about the things that I did actually spend time on and when these moments specifically happen, because I would like to strengthen that. So I think that that could be a really important piece of that as well. But let's talk a little bit about like. I know you work with organizations and you know, in some of the work that you do, um, specifically on how, how intuition, like, can be used as a strategy, even for branding, for marketing.
Speaker 1:I have a lot of people who own their own business listening to this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So, um, the creative side of our brain, I mean, it is such a superpower for work, for communication, for inspiration, for imagination. You know you cannot create what you can't imagine and that lives on the side of our intuitive brain, of our intuitive self. And our intuitive self is constantly, constantly knocking on our door. It's again, it's where we're putting our attention. And in business, you know, a lot of times and I'll say corporate, my experience was hard skills and that is very, very left critical thinking. And we need that, trust me, we need that. And what I'm talking about it's not saying, okay, left hemisphere, go offline. No, it's saying there's room for the right hemisphere to come on, for the right hemisphere to come on. And you know, it's much more the feminine side of the house and, as we're moving into this, much more divine feminine time and space, the value of what the right brain has to offer. It's not only powerful in and of itself, but what it can guide and help our left brain come online for. And so it doesn't. It's almost like the engine doesn't have to rev so much when we can incorporate mindfulness tactics, when we can incorporate things that in the past people would call lazy, you know, and unproductive when we are able to put just as much value on that as the preparation, the PowerPoints. You know the endless meetings. You know when we can start to balance that out. We can not only become more imaginative, more efficient, more effective in how we communicate with people. We can have more hours in our day, essentially because we're just, it's really. You know, it depends on the company.
Speaker 1:But, you know, sometimes people are like that's so woo-woo, and you know, and it's just like okay, is that? You know? Tell me your experience with woo-woo. You know, and working in the entertainment industry, a lot of people say, well, I see dead people, it's the sixth industry. A lot of people say, well, I see dead people, it's the sixth sense, you know, and it's just like okay, no, nope, we're going to redefine.
Speaker 1:You know what intuition is and we're redefining it in a way that it's not scary and that you all know that you have it. It's not something that witches have, it's not something that women have. So it's really, you know. I'll have people say to me well, what if you don't have intuition? And that's the first debunk. And so it's really an education and it's also it's very easy to tap into with the correct tools yeah, yeah, and, and, um, and when you do and this is kind of going back to the previous question I always like to say to people um, when you get that hit, when you get that inspiration, when you get that download, say thank you more please yes, exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's that noticing of it because you do, you have to like, do that, you have to be intentional with. Well, no, I would love more of that Like that was. That was amazing. Being appreciative and grateful for it in the moment too, like you said before, is a super big one for me. And, um, you know, taking that, taking a minute to to recognize, I think, a lot like for a long time for myself personally, I noticed that I was having these intuitive downloads and all of these things would drop in, let's say, in my late teens, early twenties, and because of my own upbringing and programming, that really does come into play a lot. I know you said you were brought up in a very open place with that, but a lot of people aren't.
Speaker 2:And it can be very suppressed. And not saying that doesn't mean you have to come from a bad experience with your family. It just could mean that it's not understood and not valued in that way, and that was it's. It's very much or, you know, brought up like myself and very strict religious sort of upbringings, and so there isn't like a whole lot of room for that in that space.
Speaker 2:So I always remember feeling like the black sheep, like a fish out of water. You know why was I always questioning the things that I was taught? I was like, but what if there is? And? And so I think a lot of times in those in that space in my life and that time in my life, uh, it was easy for me to just sort of sweep it away and, you know, ignore it. But the minute you sort of maybe you sort of like notice it, it can also open up the floodgates which can also feel a little scary to people and I went through that as well. It's like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, and so I do think it's important to be very intentional about that and to let people know too, and you probably see this a lot is to. You can discern, you can determine at what rate you would like that to come in as well.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. It's like you can turn up the volume, you can turn down the volume. You're in control of that.
Speaker 2:And I feel like a lot of people don't think that way, at least, when they're just sort of like dipping their toe into all of this, they kind of have this feeling of I'm not going to be in control.
Speaker 1:That's not true and you are able to, like you said, turn up the volume or not, and decide yes, yes, and for me, what I always do is I call in the highest, most loving vibrations. I'm not here to pick up anybody's negative energy, I'm not here to pick up, you know, just low energy. We all have had those energy vampires that just kind of suck us dry. That's not what our intuition, just kind of suck us dry. That's not what our intuition is there to serve us with. And so, by understanding that my intuition is coming in with the highest, most loving, most beneficial messages for the greatest good, that you can already feel the difference there. And that's what's going to come in, because that is what you are asking for, and they will not give you anything that you are not asking for.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly, and it's so important to really trust that you know that level of um, I am always taken care of, I am always supported and really believing that so that it kind of does it gets you through those, those periods. But I mean, I can understand. I can definitely understand there being moments of a little bit of, you know, fearfulness happening when, when it feels like you don't maybe have that control, or especially like in in the example you spoke of in the very beginning, with the lights kind of flashing on and off right.
Speaker 2:And you know, one in particular happened at a place where I felt like I was ready for it and I was like, no, no, this is good, I'm good. And then it amped up immediately, quickly and a lot, and I was like, absolutely not, I'm not okay with that.
Speaker 1:I didn't mean that much. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I don't need to hear words.
Speaker 2:So, like you know, it was like an actual, audible voice, like it's a kind of long story, but basically, yes, it was like good with this, yes, you know, show me more, I'm ready, whatever. And then it was like, okay, hang on, I'm not quite there yet, and so it's okay to you know, um, feel like you can, you know, do that in the moment as well. And I, I think that I feel like a lot of people have had experiences, whether they're subtle, whether they're not so subtle, and it can, it can trigger, you know, that feeling of out of control and unable to. You know, because us, as humans, we, we, we crave certainty and we want control, some of us more than others, for various reasons, and so it can feel very, very scary. But what would you say, you know, to to someone listening who is just sort of like dipping their toe in that and, you know, looking for ways to really dive deeper into it in a way that feels safe and not quickly? Basically, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sure, sure, it's funny. I have a story kind of similar to you, but I was in a room with two other people and something happened and they ran out of the room and I was like, oh, that's so cool. So I mean it. You know, you set, you set the tone and it's really to answer your question.
Speaker 1:For some, for people that are starting out kind of slow, I would do this work in nature, I would do this work in near the ocean, I would do this work near the ocean, I would do this work outside.
Speaker 1:I would really give yourself the spaciousness to feel the elements and again, I'm not saying go into like a torrential rainstorm or anything like that, like a very peaceful outside experience and calling in that way.
Speaker 1:And it's just a natural way for you to be open to what's coming in.
Speaker 1:And when you decide to tune into your intuitive self, to your deeper self, to your higher self, to the collective consciousness, let's say you know you can put parameters around that you can say I really would like a gentle message, I would like you know to to um, you can even say, if you want signs, you know, um, I'm looking for a sign of a blue butterfly, and that blue butterfly can be a cartoon, it could be an animated, it could show up anywhere, it could be a painting that you pass by.
Speaker 1:But those are really very calm ways to enter into this field, to know that your intuitive self is always there to help you. It's always there to show you the way, and it might not be exactly the way that your ego is expecting it to show up, but it is the way that your spirit is guiding you to that answer. And if you might not be just ready universally to receive it, it might introduce you to somebody who then takes you on the path to getting that answer. And that's a very gentle way that's not so harsh or jolting to the body. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, go at your own pace. I feel like you know there's definitely some times where you want to possibly push yourself out of your comfort zone and, uh, possibly push yourself out of your comfort zone and growth, you know, happens outside of it for sure, but also, if it's going to feel super scary, it's, it's probably going to have.
Speaker 2:you know what I mean, like that's not a great, a great state to, to, to continue to stay in right, you don't want it to trigger some stuff Rooting back down into that. Peacefulness, I think, is a really important factor. And so what are some ways? I know you've talked about clearing the static in some of your work, right? So I know we talked about nature and things like that. But what are the biggest sources of the static, do you think? And then how can, like, entrepreneurs, remove, remove that?
Speaker 1:It's the stories we tell ourselves. You know it is, oh my gosh, what? What story are you telling yourself? Like that to me is. I can fall prey to that very, very, very quickly, and I can find things that support that very quickly, and so, yeah, so there's mantras that I do every single day and they become like exercises, they become the practice.
Speaker 1:When I notice myself overeating, that will be a trigger of like okay, wait, what am I trying to avoid? What am I trying to stuff down? You know, that's a really good, all of these things that we, that we are like ah, I want to stop doing that. I want to stop doing that Um many times. They're great teachers in what we have to learn and they're showing us, oh, you know what.
Speaker 1:That's just a symptom that I need to pay much more attention to my ego trying to get in the way of keeping me protected and I put that in quotes, you know, because intuition has no reason to keep you protected. It's not here for smallness to keep you protected. It's not here for smallness. And that greatness is the big leap that we all, you know we're like oh God, that seems so scary, but it's really for everything that I've learned. It's the, it's the scare that I have created in my head and and it's the judgment of people that I don't necessarily care what they think. Yeah, and then it goes into oh God, but then I'm going to be alone, I'm not going to have any friends, no one's going to be able to take care of me, and then that's that U-turn back where it's like well, how's that working out for me now?
Speaker 1:You know, okay, well, how's that working out for me now? You know, okay, I'm kind of just, I'm living in this protected small state so that I can continue this relationship. Hmm, that doesn't seem real right. And once that flowing of thought comes in, rather than, you know, go ahead, grab that snack, sit on the couch and binge Netflix. You know again, totally fine to do. Sometimes, don't get me wrong, love it.
Speaker 1:But when it becomes that pattern, that's keeping you away from what your intuition is trying to come through for you. That's when the anxiousness, the irritability, you know, the carelessness, the stress comes in. Just to circle back to how we started. But those things that we tend to do to soothe ourselves and we've been taught to soothe ourselves can really create that static for our intuition, can really create that static for our intuition. So it's finding those new ways to soothe ourselves a bubble bath, a walk, music, a good talk, a deep talk with a friend, a fellow introvert, but those are the things. And so it's an awareness, it's an awareness, and then it's the willingness to just kind of call it out, and it doesn't mean that you have to stop it, right, that second the work is just calling it out at that moment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like that is the most important piece of it.
Speaker 2:Some sometimes too, because, like, especially if you're living in that hypnotic state of just going about the motions and having all of these, like we were talking about in the beginning, the symptoms of not listening to the intuition, all these things are going to happen.
Speaker 2:And, yeah, that self-soothing, all of these, these quote, unquote unhealthy things that you know, like you've already you've had the conscious awareness that they're not leading you to your best, highest good, and it is just a little bit easier to continue doing it, to stay on that loop, because now it's a habit as well, but also it is. It's that numbing right, it's the running, it's the fight or flight, it's the flight, like literally, like, sort of like running away from it and numbing to it. And in the moment and I can speak to it because I've done it myself, I know how it feels it can feel incredibly scary and really uncomfortable to call it out and then to sit with it, but it's also, I think, so important to remember if you're listening, like calling it out, noticing it without judgment, is this really big piece?
Speaker 2:It's hard for a lot of us that have a lot of like like I call it, the nasty interceptor, right, so that that is not normally. First of all, it's not your intuition, but it's definitely not even like you.
Speaker 2:That's like those are other people, um, usually from your past, or instances or circumstances that have happened that got stuck in there, and so sometimes our first gut reaction is to beat ourselves up for it, especially if there's something that you know you've been trying to do and you want to do, and you know it's going to move you forward, and yet you feel very, very stuck and paralyzed and you can't seem to do it, especially if it comes into terms with, if it's related to putting yourself out there, being judged, perceived and all of those things, which is super common especially with women entrepreneurs in this space, it can be really easy for you to just beat yourself up for it and be like, just get over it.
Speaker 2:You suck that loop of destructiveness, and so noticing that in that moment as well is, I think, a really powerful move, because it is just what it is. It just is. It doesn't have to be good or bad, it doesn't have to be anything. It's like what you put on, it is what it's going to be. So noticing it without judgment, like taking that charged emotion out of it and just being like huh that's really interesting.
Speaker 2:I wonder where that comes from. You know, and like allowing yourself to really lean into it and just being like huh, that's really interesting. I wonder where that comes from. You know, and like allowing yourself to really lean into it and lean into the uncomfortableness and sitting with it. That is something that a lot of people have a hard time doing, but there's so much power.
Speaker 1:So much power, so much power, and I'll and I'll add, if, if you can, you know, catch that and sit with it for a moment and hear what your ego is telling you, which is, let's just say, like you're lazy I'm just going to use that as an example and then you can say you know what, what is a higher vibration of this? Oh, you know what you're self soothing Like? Let's just say like, like you know, you're, you're, you're resting, you know, there's, there's a, there's a higher way to look at that in a, in a much more compassionate way, like you were talking about, than to look at it. And then it creates this space where it's like, oh, you know what I could also do, I could also go journal, I could get up and you know, go, take care of this, but it just it doesn't come down so hard on yourself that you don't want to do anything else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the mantra that you mentioned. Like the mantras, that can be a really powerful way to like, first of all, many things, but like also specifically deal with that sort of lower vibration story.
Speaker 2:That's because, uh, because you know your unconscious mind is going to believe whatever you tell it. And so if, if you have a mantra that you are like it's a non-negotiable for you, that you either use in the morning or at night, or whatever, something that is just, it's going to embed, like, what are you telling yourself and how are you embedding that? That's, I think, a really big, just piece of it, to stay on track, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely yeah. And a hack that I like to do and and, and I don't know if you do it as well as record into my voice memos and then listen back before I go to bed, and I say it three times, and there's something about hearing yourself talk back to yourself, right, yeah?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm a big believer in that. My husband has done that and he's an actor and he's used to hearing the sound of his voice. Because I feel like a lot of people when I tell people like you know, get this mantra down to where you want it and then record it, and they're like, oh God, like no, I can never like listen to the sound of my voice. And I totally understand that at first because it's like it's going to trigger some other things, right, but there is a lot of power in that. I mean, my husband swears by it, like, honestly, he likes to do it when he wakes up because and I think it's a great time to do it too Find what works for you and your rhythm. For me, I do like it before night, cause I like to program my unconscious to do what I want it to do while I'm sleeping, like, okay, here's what we're going to work on and, yeah, that's just the way.
Speaker 1:I like to do it, it's so cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can. You can tell it to do any all kinds of things.
Speaker 2:And I also though you know I don't have an issue sleeping, Like that's not an issue for me, Like he's not, that you know he has issues like sleeping, and so for him, coming out of a deeper sleep and into theta is like a perfect time for him to like put his headphones in and then just listen to his mantra. And I've talked about that a lot on like social and also here on the podcast, and I've heard, you know, some feedback from people saying that was a really good tip. Thank you for that, Because you may not think about it on your own, to like just record it, but and you may not want to, but just try it. Just try it and see how it feels and listen. No one else is listening to it, but you like remove the judgment.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. That's right. That's right. It's an exercise in and of itself of catching yourself. Say oh, I hate my voice, wait no.
Speaker 2:There, that is just my voice, Right, right no, there that is just my voice, right, right, your voice is. You have a voice like how beautiful you know exactly. I'm grateful for it. I'm glad I can speak. I have language, like in something even very small, to say good about it and just keep doing it too, because you will become desensitized to all of that like the more you do it. But, like you said, it's a good exercise, just in general, and so yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So if you're saying that that's the barrier to doing it, there's your work, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, thank you so much for being here. I this is super fun. I love going into all of this and meeting like-minded people as well. I know you work with people at all different capacities, so where do you like to connect with them? I'll put all of this in the show notes so that people can find you.
Speaker 1:Fantastic. My website's a great place to check me out Jen J-E-N-N Cohen C-O-H-E-N. Intuitivecom, and I'm also on Instagram at Jen Cohen intuitive Perfect.
Speaker 2:Awesome. Well, thank you again. This was awesome. Thank you, thanks again, jen. That was awesome. That was so insightful.
Speaker 2:I loved those reminders myself. It can be really hard sometimes when the world is crazy and when things are busy and you just have a lot going on, it's super easy to fall back into those old patterns, habits, programs. I have found myself really having to double down on all things mindset right now and I think this was a really awesome reminder for many of us, including me, because, remember, your intuition is never going to feel fearful. It's not going to make you feel constricted, it's going to feel expansive. It might feel uncomfortable, but you can see that there's growth on the other side of it, like you can feel it, and there's power in the piece right Like really tune into your own intuition. Make it a habit to really strengthen that and to get really good at knowing what feels good, what doesn't, and trusting yourself, because you know you really do know. So, whether it's like a personal decision or something to do with your business, your intuition is there to help you and to guide you and it's not something to be afraid of.
Speaker 2:I loved the little strategies that she gave us in this episode and I hope that you guys found this super valuable, as always. If you did, let me know. You can always rate and review the podcast at rate. This podcastcom slash Renee Bowen. That's the easiest way to do it because you can just access any platform from that link, but you could do it from inside of whatever platform you're listening to or watching as well. Your feedback is so very appreciated. Thanks again for joining me here and I hope you have a beautiful week. Love you, bye.
