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The day started with a shock: “Welcome to beautiful Antarctica” over the cruise ship speakers… in South Florida. That freeze set the stage for a fast, funny, and useful ride through winter realities—why iguanas fall from trees during cold snaps, how wildlife rules change under stress, and what it all says about adapting quickly when conditions go sideways. From there, we steer into the moments that matter for drivers: when to call it on icy runs, how to plan around service patterns on flights, and the small tricks (always order a double in Comfort Plus) that make long days easier.

Back at the yard, we get practical. Pallet shelving showed up and changed everything. We break down how to configure heavy‑duty racks, why wire decking depth matters, and the satisfaction of finally clearing floor space. Then it’s toolbox time: the hidden science behind seams, materials, repairable parts, and why the RC boxes earn their price when cheaper units fail at the weld. If you wrench, spec, or buy for a fleet, this segment will save you real money over the life of your gear.

Winter maintenance becomes the throughline: undercarriage washes aren’t luxuries when salt is eating frames and lines; washer fluid ratings matter more than brand names; and wiper blades deliver the most value when you buy smart and stock up. We talk vendor accounts, negotiating parts discounts without seven‑figure filter spend, and small upgrades like smart locks and lounge layouts that quietly improve morale. There’s even a cat‑friendly sleeper build that stays spotless and a new five‑hour energy flavor that actually tastes good.

Looking for a show that rides the line between road stories and real takeaways? This one’s full of field‑tested tips for fighting corrosion, choosing repairable equipment, and making better calls when weather wins the first round. If it helps you get down the road with fewer headaches and a cleaner rig, we did our job. Subscribe, share with a driver who needs good company, and leave a review with the winter hack you swear by. We’ll feature our favorites next week.


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Cold Cruise And Florida Freeze

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Count him down, Jerry. That was numbered one.

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That was like three.

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Oh, for peace's sake. Fut future Jerry editing this.

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Four. Three.

SPEAKER_01

Hey everybody, welcome to the Outer Belt Pod show. I'm Patrick, and you know most of my friends. I'm chilly.

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You're very chillin' out there, Mr. Chilly. I'm better milk.

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I'm Eric.

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Zucchini Brad.

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And Jerry. And that was a good number four.

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I liked it. We should go with it.

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Okay, fine, then we'll go with it. All in favor, say aye.

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Aye.

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All opposed? Alright, the ice carry it. Well, it's been an interesting week. And a half of the year. I did what most of us do. Most of us Ohio snowbirds. And uh I got lucky. I actually booked a trip. I this past week I was actually gone. I don't know if y'all noticed or not. And I went to southern Florida.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

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Southern Florida. And uh jumped on a cruise ship, as one does, and took a little sail around the ocean. On the way back, we woke up, and the cruise director was like, Welcome to beautiful Antarctica. We were like, What? It was 27 degrees outside. The pool deck was completely frozen over.

SPEAKER_04

Wow.

SPEAKER_01

Like giant segments of ice with the little like it was like the slippery when wet uh signs, you know, the little banana peel thing, but they scratched out it and put icy. It was just beyond crazy.

Iguanas, Bounties, And Wildlife Rules

SPEAKER_04

Did you see iguanas laying around?

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Yes.

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Did you?

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Yes. That was all over the news the other morning that it was so cold down there that they were like frozen and dead birds.

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Dead birds all over the roads. It got too cold, they fell, and then a truck or car hit them all over the place.

SPEAKER_04

So the iguanas actually hibernate.

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Yes, correct.

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But the state pays pays or does something, they encourage you to collect them and bring them to be humanely euthanized.

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Why?

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Because they're they're a nuisance. They're they're overpopulated. And it's easier to catch them now as opposed to when it's sunny and they're you know running rampant at 15 miles an hour. Have you met Florida Man?

SPEAKER_01

Florida Man is not collecting them while they're asleep on the side of the road. Unless he's making a stew. Oh, sort of. That takes all the it takes all the sport out of it.

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All all of the the reels you see where people have like wagons in the back of their truck beds and they're holding arm loads, and this is the biggest one, and and all of them. It's because the state says, uh and I want to say there is a a fee that they give you.

SPEAKER_02

Like a bounty, maybe.

SPEAKER_04

Um, I don't have my fact checker in the over yonder, so maybe we can work on that. But at any rate, it's the state says collect them, bring them, we'll humanely um euthanize them. Because they're a nuisance. They're they're um now encroaching uh the panhandle and now going up into like um uh neighboring states like Georgia, Georgia and whatnot. So they're they're not what everybody thinks they are, and ooh, how fun with the tropical plants.

SPEAKER_01

But they're so pretty, and they eat hyperscales.

SPEAKER_04

They are, they are, they are. The bird thing, though, that's a pretty unique anomaly in a frozen yes. I mean, I didn't see anything on the news about that.

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Yeah, it was it was very strange. Eric saw the craziest thing as we were driving.

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Do you have a picture of it? What are you about to show? No, I was about to say, um, I had heard somebody say this online and I looked it up and AI says it, but iguanas are not native to Florida. So they were happy whenever they could catch the most iguanas, the easiest.

SPEAKER_04

Iguanas are not native to Florida, and I do believe that's why the state says anytime there's a cold spell and they fall out of their trees and wherever they're at to bring them in, and we well I know down in um down in uh Louisiana, it's the same thing, but it's with I think is it nutria?

SPEAKER_01

If you kill it, but if you have to kill I think you have to kill it. You can't bring it in, it'll euthanize it. It's a bad idea to handle nutria that's you know alive.

SPEAKER_04

They're little rodents. Yeah, that would be weird.

SPEAKER_01

They're big rodents. Uh you shoot them and uh you bring them in and then they'll like give you a I used to be like ten or fifteen dollars per um per one or something, but yeah. Crazy crazy times when you have uh animals like that. And me, I think we should do it with deer. I think deer season should be all year. Have we not protected enough deer? Are we still concerned about them uh making it area you live in?

SPEAKER_04

What species?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, can we regionally say that the ones in Ohio are they're good to go?

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Regionally they do have different regulations. Like driving through Pennsylvania or New York, upstate New York. There was a like a antler free, or you could hunt any size all year long, all year long, or something like that.

SPEAKER_04

Ohio does have a multiple kick harvest or kill, however you like to say that. They have multiple harvests. So I think you can get two uh horned, ant learned uh animals during season. Uh well during buck season. Yeah. Let me be very clear on that. Um, I believe it's two that you can get with your license and tag, um, which I thought was pretty unique when I moved here. And then I do think they have a dough season as well. See, and Oregon doesn't have that. And Oregon's almost even a draw. Like you have to put your name in for a lottery and you get a draw. Is there less lucky? There's less deer.

SPEAKER_01

Oh wow. Wow. Well, uh, you know, we have

Deer, Roads, And Regional Hunting

SPEAKER_01

the trucking philosophy, which is you can kill as many as you hit with a truck. Yeah, there you go. There you go. It's funny how that's like that's the one way that everybody universally, the entire well, not maybe not universally, maybe countrywide. They're like, that's fine.

SPEAKER_04

Uh on the way here tonight, uh, Heather had mentioned seeing a herd of deer up on one of the side roads, and she was commenting it was some deer they had saw the other day. And uh, as we were getting closer to your house, I'm like, oh my goodness, look at that. And uh there was this huge, beautiful buck standing in an like a field of the snow that had been untouched, and the car lights were hitting him just right, and he just was standing there on the edge of the road. Very pretty.

SPEAKER_01

And then if you actually I I saw that, I thought it was very cool that it was actually sponsored by the Hartford group.

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He very much looked like that.

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Yeah, he did. He very he was very stoic standing there. I'm like, boy, don't try to cross this road this this hour of night.

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Oh, I know.

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I know like wait until maybe midnight. Your chances are better there, Frogger.

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Well, we didn't we just knew we had a lot of deer. There's deer, like I when we first moved to this area, it was like, oh my gosh, deer, and now it's like, yeah, it's deer, whatever. Like you don't even, whatever, it just is what it is. There's so many deer here. Didn't realize uh until I guess maybe a year and a half ago, they're building a sidewalk on the other side of our street, and it's a sidewalk. They're building a road, they're calling it a sidewalk. It's eight foot wide. Wow why do you need an eight foot wide sidewalk? How many marches and pedestrians cohabitate on the sidewalk? And scooters, and cowboys, and horses, and meat, yeah, and cars.

SPEAKER_04

Is that four four foot on both sides? Of walk space?

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No, it's just eight foot wide. Like the whole thing is just one slab, eight foot wide by the whole thing. Maybe that'll be like a um four one way, four or the other. Maybe a paint seven.

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Oh my gosh.

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Screwed it up.

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That's what's up. So you could say four by one, but would it be seven by one? I just learned it.

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I thought it was five nine. I think it's five nine. Five nine's not cool. Six seven's cool. I think that's what we learned for Christmas. Again, no fact checkers are here in the audience. Uh, you could fact check us on at home. Yes, drop us. Yes. We definitely know it's six seven means a good thing. Uh, but I think it's five nine. I thought six seven was I still didn't know.

SPEAKER_01

It's crazy that you can't get you can't get an order six seven at uh anymore. At uh Internet burger. They got rid of it. Too much of a good thing? Can't have that. That's what they should have is a six by seven burger.

SPEAKER_02

Six pieces of meat, seven slices of cheese. Yeah, yeah. That was a hell of a squirrel movement.

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Fun fact, the grandson has no idea what it means. None of the kids really do.

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I don't think any of them do.

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Whoa, well think of all the things that we used to say back in the day.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, like Yes, we're all looking it out. What did you say back in your day?

SPEAKER_01

Well, you know, like we used to talk about something that was like soda but bodacious or whatever. Like you did bodacious? Am I the wrong age group for Baudacious?

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Yeah, it's a little older than you actually.

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I was I was elementary school for it. Very young elementary school. Um what did you have?

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We probably had the Bodacious.

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Vince, you had Rad.

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Rad.

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Oh, yeah.

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Totally.

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Now we're nubular too. That was my drive turkeys. You'd what? Jive turkeys.

SPEAKER_01

What the hell's a jive turkey?

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Have you ever seen the movie Airplane? Yeah, but it's been a minute. Well, they talked Jive.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I got this. That lady is so funny.

SPEAKER_04

Oh I always thought my mom knew what I was talking about because they had the totally tubular or um some other you you know words like that back in the 60s and 70s. So I think when it came, I don't ever remember. I'm just trying to think. My two sons, their generations. How about how about Jordan for you? Did she have any Oscar?

SPEAKER_02

Jordan Jordan was an English major.

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Duly noted.

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King's King's English, by the way. So exactly. Uh how is your day today? Thou shalt know that I will proclaimeth among the nations.

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Anna teaches English, too.

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Okay.

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I'm just saying, I don't recall any of them other than maybe that's cool. That's awesome.

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You said rad. Sweet.

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No, no, no. Sweet, sweet.

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Sweet. We just uh sweet ride.

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Sweet, maybe the kids used Oh bad bad?

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Come on. You're you're of the age of bad, right? So bad, what does bad mean? It just depends on where you put the inflection of the letter. Yeah.

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Just like the other B-word.

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Like oh yeah.

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Which one is that?

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So there's one that was. So that was my mom used that in the 70s.

SPEAKER_01

Well, your mom was so bodacious.

Flight Hacks And Comfort Plus Lessons

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And it was and you may have to bleak me, I hope not, but it was bitchin'.

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Oh no.

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Like this is so bitchin', like like it, but as in cool. Oh, my mom me used that in my generation? Oh, heaven's sakes, no, that was not permitted.

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For me.

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Because it was the B word, but it wasn't the B word.

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Yes.

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That's not how you were articulating it.

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I didn't know how that was said to me. Would you quit your bitchin'? That's how it was bitching to me. So it's a little, you know, a little different. I don't think they mean the same thing.

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No. One of my favorite um explanations of someone's favorite curse word was Bernie Mac. Oh yes. His favorite curse word was M Effer. Oh. Because it could be used in so many different ways in the same story. And he goes on to tell this story. Yeah. And he uses the word good, bad, indifferent. Yeah. Yeah. You take a word, like you said, and it's it all depends on the inflection. It does. And if, you know, like the whole thing.

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I do think words around it, too.

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Sure.

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Words around it and your inflection. Sure. Your storytelling. Context.

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Yes, context, definitely context. Because if you screwed up and someone says something to you, you know, that may not necessarily be what they meant.

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Sometimes you put that cousin on there and you just understand it better.

SPEAKER_04

Oh. Yeah. So you went and you did this trip and then it was super cold, and then you came home to Is that we're still talking about?

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Woo! That's where you started. Around the world. So, um, and 30. Anyways, uh 30 or 69, what is it? Around the world in something days. I don't know the words.

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I'll figure it up, but different around the world. Oh.

SPEAKER_04

Carmen San Diego?

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It costs more in Dublin than it does downtown.

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So we were down in Florida and uh it's actually kind of it was actually kind of scary. So we actually flew down when the snow clips hit uh Atlanta. Remember, they shut down Atlanta, they shut down uh uh Birmingham, they shut down uh Wales, they shut down um all those uh wonderful airports. And don't you know it was one of the last direct flights Delta Dut did seasonally from uh Columbus, Ohio to South Florida? Really? Yeah, like so there was no flying to Atlanta. Right. And we fly to Atlanta all the time. Every flight. I know Atlanta. That's right. I saw a poster once they were like, because everyone flying from Detroit to New York uh needs to see Atlanta. Yeah, exactly. You know, it's like um so we we we actually skipped over Atlanta, so our flight went when everybody else was getting canceled. I felt kind of guilty. It was packed though. It was oh yeah, it was packed. There was no upgrades, everything was uh everything was like maxed to capacity. Yeah, but it was an enjoyable flight. We sat in comfort plus, it's been a while since I've sat back there. Um it was nice. They served us um Coke Zero. Yes, and I got a double Coke Zero. Not to brag. Wow, so had orange juice. They had orange juice.

SPEAKER_02

I'm sorry we couldn't upgrade you, sir, but we got you a double Coke Zero.

SPEAKER_01

That's right. Eric messed up. He didn't realize that, like, because we fly so much, we typically are in first class. Uh, be it we bought it or we get upgraded. It's just it's usually how we fly. He's so used to like if you're in first class, they come and visit you multiple times throughout your course. I knew we're in the back of the bus now. Even though we're in the best section of the back of the bus, we're still in the back of the bus. The curtain is in front of us.

SPEAKER_02

All that means is they get to you before they get to the rest of the back of the bus, but they don't make it back around.

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They don't make it back around, they don't come back. And so I knew that, so I got to double coke zero because I'm like, and she was like, Well, do you want the can? I'm like, yeah, I want the can. Yeah. Eric didn't know this. He thinks he's getting premium service. Yeah. So he orders a single orange juice. That was a mistake. Yeah. Halfway through the flight, he's like, are they coming back? And I'm like, no. He's like, No. At the end of the flight, he's like, If I don't know they were gonna come back, I would have done what you did.

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Like, well, push the button. They'll come back around for a push button.

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I would rather have my hand sawed off. I'm the same way. I'm the same way than my phone.

SPEAKER_07

But you paid for your paid for the ticket.

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No, no, I uh uh nope. I would nope. I would I don't think you've gotta be dying to press the button. I think it depends on your I didn't press the button when Eric was friggin' dying of his um uh anaphylactic shock and we had to epi him.

SPEAKER_04

Didn't push the button?

SPEAKER_01

I didn't push the button then. We were on the ground. Well, and we already have I mean, like we it was it was a ruckus. But uh I'm just saying, like, I I'm the wings on fire. Yeah, and I don't think it's gonna go out.

SPEAKER_04

You might push the button.

SPEAKER_01

Eric, push the button. I would be like, Eric, go walk up to the front. Yeah, and and casually, gently.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, just you know, the wing the wings on fire. Is that I mean, maybe it's on fire, I'm not sure. But yeah, I don't know if somebody should be aware.

SPEAKER_04

Just just in the future, comfort plus, always a double.

SPEAKER_02

Always a double. That's a big can of coke. You know, that's why you wear big pockets.

SPEAKER_04

But you can throw it away if you don't do the whole can of coke.

SPEAKER_01

You can, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, when they do their walk around.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, they made three they made three walk-arounds for trash. Nobody wants to throw a Coke away. Nobody wants to throw a Coke away. Nobody's throwing Coke away.

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I'm just saying.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It's always a double.

SPEAKER_01

It was a nice flight. I enjoyed it. It's uh one of the smaller regional jets, uh, an Embraer, a Brazilian plane, so it's not getting cancelled like the Canadian ones are. I it was just the only thing that sinks about it is it didn't have the um the screens. You know, I do like the screens. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um I mean it's not so bad on a short hop from like here to Detroit. Yes. But

Free Wi‑Fi, Notes, And Planning

SPEAKER_02

if you're going all the way down to Orlando, that's what a two and a half hour flight. Yeah, look back. You gotta make sure you download something to your tablet. Yes. You know.

SPEAKER_01

Now what is nice is Delta is rolling out the internet, the free internet on those plates. So we did have internet. Good. Um, and so I like a podcast I was able to I didn't download ahead of time, so I was able to listen to it on the way back. I made sure to download a few episodes with it.

SPEAKER_02

Um I did see, I was looking at those flights to Dublin today, and I did see on some of the short hop flights, they're actually advertising in the when they had the list of flights uh on on the headline, they're advertising those flights that do have the free Wi-Fi on their s on the smaller plane.

SPEAKER_01

You know what's funny? No, I've had at least two, I think three, of these little regional jets where they come on and they're like, well, Delta's on a quest to provide fast free internet for the whole country. Unfortunately, this plane doesn't have it. This plane ain't one of them. Yeah. And then we get to fly in, and my thing pops up, and it's like, Deltawifi.com, click, and it's got Wi-Fi.

SPEAKER_04

And I'm like, Maybe they haven't updated their notes and exactly what it is.

SPEAKER_01

Their shared Apple note. Someone at uh someone at Atlantic headquarters hasn't like added them to the group of like another this one works.

SPEAKER_04

Right, right. That's that's funny.

SPEAKER_01

Did we all get the uh Apple note this morning or this afternoon? Yes, I think so. That was uh I would uh so we are um hosting a little get together, so we put together a uh a note so we can start breaking down kind of what staff members gonna do what I whatever, you know, all that stuff. And it was it was um very detailed.

SPEAKER_02

Very detailed. It was funny, it was very detailed. All all meetings should be like that. I agree.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, if we had detailed notes like that, we wouldn't need a wouldn't need a meeting. Yeah, you're right. No.

SPEAKER_04

But uh can we circle back around to the fun fact of the iguanas? I fun fact is Yeah. So Florida does not have a general ongoing statewide bounty program that pays the public for bringing in iguanas. However, the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, the FWC, sometimes allows temporary permit-free or incentivized removal during cold snaps. In some cases, local municipalities uh have discussed or implemented bounty programs to control the population. Um no statewide bounty. There is no standard cash for iguanas. Uh the cold stunned collection during extreme cold, the FWC may issue that. Uh, but that's about it. And then you still have to do uh practice uh handling them humanely because they are protected by state anti-cruelty laws.

SPEAKER_06

So is a cold stun collection different than the hot tropical collection?

SPEAKER_02

Well, I mean I think you have to get the mall collection. This is about the time for a hot tropical collection. They start putting it out and seeing what buyers want to buy. Oh, okay. And then you'll see it in stores come like mid-spring.

SPEAKER_06

Got it.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. It does say the FWC sometimes allows temporary permit free. So I'm wondering if non-cold times, if you have to have a permit to go hunt them, I was wondering. Which is weird if there's so overpopular.

SPEAKER_01

It makes perfect sense. You're thinking of this as a native orgonian who was learnt proper uh gun safety, proper knife safety, proper bow and arrow safety, how to appropriately approach wildlife.

Home Chef On The Road

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You are not approaching this from Florida, man.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

And iguanas will bite you and they will scar your face up, and so they're like. They know how wild the iguanas are, and they're like, we can't have people in Florida. Jerry, you live there. You know what I'm talking about. Jerry's one-third Florida man. She is. You know they would be down there attacking these iguanas while they're alive. People would be dying, and then they'd have to explain to the family, well, he went for the hot tropic. Iguana. And you can't do that.

SPEAKER_02

You gotta wait till the docile, cold. I was reading some similar articles, and they were talking about how you had to prepare them. You had to put them in a scratch spree bag. Oh god. My brain was like, you have to start with garlic.

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Yeah.

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And then inside another container, and they're they don't they recommend don't put them in the inside your car, put them in the trunk so you don't warm up and then kill you.

SPEAKER_01

Reanimate? Yeah, reanimate.

SPEAKER_04

Everything I saw was always in the back of a pickup, which kind of makes sense. They're still out in that element of cold. Sure.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04

So but I I guess I would never have thought to not throw them in the trunk of my car. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It's been so cold here. I got a side of beef at the yard just waiting for it to warm up. It's outside in the ice. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's just outside sitting there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's just soon we'll throw it on the grill. But yeah, fun fact. So you know we do the home chef meals. Love home chef. Big props to home chef. If you are on the road and you like you see all these people doing all these delivery services where they bring the meals to you and they create curate a menu for you and all that stuff, uh, your local Kroger store, I think your Albertson's maybe could do it as well, but like definitely Kroger, you can actually go in and they have a home chef uh section. Is that what you would call it? Yeah. It's usually two or three display, not display cases, refrigerated cases. Refrigerated cases, you know, the kinds that don't have lips.

SPEAKER_02

Refrigerated display cases.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Uh where you might get like your shrimp cocktail or or or some places have sushi. Yeah. Things like that. And they have the meal kits there for you to actually buy. Uh and then they have everything in it. All you gotta do is go back to your truck or your or whatever, and it's really cool. I'm working on uh a way to show this off to inspire truckers, as some things they can do to for uh meal prep. And and for me, my biggest thing when I was uh cooking years ago is just the same thing over and over again. I get bored of it, so we end up eating out all the time, and it's just not healthy for you, right? So um this helps give you all kinds of food options. And since we live in a, you know, since we always home, well, maybe not always home, but since we're home a lot, uh we get it delivered to the house, but your uh but but these uh grocery stores actually keep the stuff in stock and they rotate stock every week too. So it's a really cool thing. It was so cold. We got ours, it was four days late, and we were checking for freezer burn because it's been so cold outside. Uh we're like, did our meals get ruined from freezer burn?

SPEAKER_02

I made ice cubes outside. Yeah. I I gotta bring you that ice maker. I put the two ice makers outside on the on on our counter outside, covered them with a towel so you know the rabbits wouldn't use them for water or whatever, and made ice cubes. The funny thing is, they're out there for two days. In the freezer, it takes 24 hours to make full full a full cube. They're out there for two days, and the water in the bottom part never froze solid. So I had solid ice cubes, but that bottom part didn't freeze solid. It was no hotter, no warmer than 10 degrees for those two days. Wow. I thought it's a it's an insulated it is.

SPEAKER_04

So we're not talking regular ice cube trays, people.

SPEAKER_02

No, we're talking clear ice cube trays, where it's like an insulated box and the ice sits

Clear Ice Cubes And Cold Experiments

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on the top, and then there's that much below of this water. So the idea is the top part's not insulated, or the it freezes from the top down, so it pushes all the air bubbles and impurities to the bottom part, so your ice cubes come out clear, and that big block of ice in the bottom part is where your your air bubbles and your impurities are.

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And it makes two inches by two inch by two inch cubes.

SPEAKER_02

So it's the big cubes. If you ever go to like a fancy restaurant, sometimes they'll put use those.

SPEAKER_01

It's funny, there's actually a big cube in here, and it's so clear you can't see. You can't right through it, yeah. Uh so it they make the big square cubes, it makes six at a time, six at a time, and uh it's a silicone, like kind of a pliable silicone mold. And then it has holes in the bottom.

SPEAKER_02

It has holes in the bottom so the water can come in and out, but the bottom part is like an insulated like a cooler. Cooler cool. It's basically a cooler, it's like an igloo cooler.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

With no lid, the lid is the ice mold. Am I correct? Um, whenever the air bubbles were pushed out of the ice, that ice cube will last longer than a normal one.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, because it's it's a denser cube. This doesn't have that air, so yeah, it will last longer.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

And we can tell, so at at at my house, we tried uh your cooler and it we never could get it to work. I think we figured out the problem is the my freezer was set too cold. Is that what we said? Something like that, I think. Yeah. So we're gonna have to retry it again. But I did buy a little machine. It makes uh four cubes of ice, not not not six, but four. Um, and it works really well. So we've compared that to like the you can buy them at Walmart, the just a regular silicone two inch by two inch molds, um, and put those in the freezer so you just pour a little water in them, like an ice tray, and you stick it in the freezer. It it it makes two inch by two inch cubes, but they're cloudy and they have air in them. And I'm telling you the difference night and day. Oh yeah, night and day, that clear cube will last, you know, two, three hours. That uh solid that that that other one half an hour to an hour, depending on what you're using it for.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, in the sense of you know, you make a drink with a fresh ice cube, yes, and that drink is done, and you just make another drink with that same ice cube.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It's very effective.

SPEAKER_04

He he came in, I was in a separate room, and he came in and he's all excited, giddy, like a science project, and he's like, It's so cold outside, can I make ice cubes? And in my head, I'm like, Oh, I had bought a couple years ago for a project I was doing old school the the white ice cube trays. Oh, yeah. Old school for soda or water, you know, the tiny little ones.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, the tiny what do you mean?

SPEAKER_04

You know, just like standard little cubes that most refrigerators are tiny inch. Yeah, like most refrigerators now have an ice machine maker in them. So, but I had bought old school standalone. And I I had two of them actually in in our our pantry. And uh I'm like, yeah, and I'm like, well, they're in the pantry. I said, have fun with your science experiment. Um and like two days later, I went out there to do something, and the table he had them setting on caught my eye, and I started laughing. I'm like, so not the ice cubes that I thought he was gonna make. I thought he was making little old school ice cubes, but here he's making the fancy cocktail ice cubes, which was great.

SPEAKER_02

It was it I mean we didn't have freezer space to put the colour. I had just gone to Costco. The big problem with those things are well the other half of the cow is in your freezer in your house, so you gotta exactly yeah. Actually, it's not, it's out in the backyard.

SPEAKER_04

So it just it it made sense, but yeah, I think that's really cool. It's been so cold.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, uh why not it's been so cold, why not have fun with it? It's you know, it's it's bitterly cold. Like the thing I don't like about this cold is that it's so cold, it's not like you can go outside with a propane heater or a fire pit and it's too cold for that. Yeah. Like you can't do anything outside. You spend a few minutes outside, and the only option is get inside before my hands get frostbite. And I have not been prepared. I I I gotta get new leather gloves. Um yeah, I'm so ill prepared for this cold, it's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_04

It's very cold.

SPEAKER_01

Um I it seems like it's lasting a lot longer than it did last year. It is, it really is.

SPEAKER_04

I mean I thought last year was like a week, maybe two.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe, but that we've had like three weeks of this negative freezing weather.

SPEAKER_01

And it doesn't look great. I think Friday it's gonna snow again.

SPEAKER_02

Friday it's gonna snow, but the high is 34.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, so ice. That's nice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Uh it was twenty-four today. Things were warmed up. Yeah, you fold it. If it was thin enough and the sun was hitting it, it was melting. Yeah. The problem is is it melts just long enough that not always does it dry off and then it just refreezes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Like our driveway. We yeah. So uh, you know, with OTR mattress and um the mattresses we use in our trucks, we have um a company out in Michigan that makes all these things for us, right? So I actually went and ordered 40 40 or 40 mattresses um because we were out. And uh these are not the the fancy ones, these are just the the the basic ones we put in the trucks. Right. And they're still there's nice, they're pillow tops, they're they're nice mattresses. Um so I've I drove out to um Michigan, and I was gonna be cutting it close on time, but I'm like, I can do this, pulling the race car trailer in my Jeep, so I'm like, I can get there, not 65 mile an hour speed limited, whatever. And then it's like, and then there's the snow. And then there's the ice. And then there's the snow

Midwest Cold, Driving, And Safety

SPEAKER_01

and ice, yeah, and then there's all the wreck cars, and it's like, okay, so we're slowing down, we're going slower and slower and slower, and but we're still doing alright. And I just watched my GPS just adjust that time. And four o'clock was my cutoff, and when it hit 4 15, I was like, Alright, well, I guess Lansing, Michigan is a good enough place to uh call it a night. Uh that's not where our place is, but that's where I was, and I had just driven through um not an overpass, an underpass. So, you know, you went under a road, there was a road that crossed the interstate, and under that was a big old patch of ice, and I was on cruise control because it wasn't, it was pretty dry, but so I was on cruise control and went over that ice and the cruise control kicked off, and you kind of felt the thing get kind of squirrely, not like, oh my gosh, like I'm gonna jackknife this trailer and everyone's gonna die, squirrely, but just enough squirrely to like you know make you tense up a little bit, make you pucker a little bit, and uh so um that's when I was like, alright, not gonna make it anyways. Obviously the weather conditions are deteriorating. Let me let me call it a day. So I did and got up the next morning, finished the drive over there, got the mattresses, and on my way back, um, night and day. Night and day, all the roads were dry, um, no snow. Well, I did hit a couple patches of light snow, but nothing major. And so much more comfortable drive home. And it did hit get above freezing by the time I got down to the yard. Um, of course I get down to the yard to unload these mattresses and all the help had left.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, all the help had left.

SPEAKER_01

I made sure all the help had left.

SPEAKER_02

Hmm.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he kicked us out early. He's like, Patrick's coming. Patrick's getting to get out.

SPEAKER_02

Did y'all did y'all find uh the mattresses?

SPEAKER_01

We did find the mattresses. Are you like them? They're perfect. Aren't they? They're perfect. I was very proud. I was very happy with them. Yep.

SPEAKER_04

Um did you open up the bay door? Drive the trailer in.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't drive the trailer in.

SPEAKER_04

And then just gas it and they all rolled right out. Now they're in a big pile.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no. But you only left us 10. I left you 10. I said I was gonna do seven. Yep, but for the sake of accounting, I thought, let's take them in ten. Sure.

SPEAKER_02

Um hopefully by the time we need more, we'll have those the shelving up. Yes. And we'll just get them all. The re the other 30.

SPEAKER_01

Did we even talk about the shelving or has that happened since the last we didn't talk about the shelving in the last episode? Oh my gosh. We gotta talk about the shelving. And that brings us into um the uh shop revelation with Vince.

SPEAKER_04

Shop talk with Vince.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh, it was great. Vince, tell them.

SPEAKER_02

We got pallet shelving. Go on. Installed it. We got um 40 feet, 36 feet of pallet shelving. Yes, and then um 36 linear feet. Uh, we have uh actually the the the wired decking, what we got was too wide, which we knew going into it it was too wide. It was four. Well, let's what is pallet shelving? For those of us that don't know see when you go into a warehouse and they've got just big old shelves, tall as the ceiling, and they have pallets of goods on the shelving. Like a storage. Arcusco? No, but yeah, similar, yeah. They have that kind of stuff too. Uh if you're a truck driver, you go into a shipper and they have things on shelves. So yes, I can lose our home depot with a little bit larger, I think, format than that. More industrial. More industrial, yeah. Uh so that's we're we're gonna use to store things in the shop. Uh stuff that now is on the floor, so we can't pull a truck in. Yeah. We're gonna use this pallet shelving to store things on. So we got that uh installed mostly, except again the the actual shelves were too deep. Uh they're 48 inches versus 42 inches, which is our uh our uprights are 42 inches deep. But we again we knew that going in, so we had we had to cut them down to um 42 inches, and we did some horse trading and got that taken care of for us.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, did you remember to uh get the shoes?

SPEAKER_02

No, I didn't get the shoes. I just got the other one.

SPEAKER_04

You did good bartering on that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, Patrick did good bartering on that. Yeah. So um now we're working on setting up a time to get together and get the shelving up and the spacing that we need, and then start getting stuff off the floor.

SPEAKER_01

It's awesome because these shelves are extremely heavy duty. We can park a truck on one if we had to. Um and they're but they're completely adjustable to the point where it's too many options. It really is. It's too many options. Yeah, you can it's every inch and a half?

SPEAKER_02

About that.

SPEAKER_01

Every inch and a half, they're 16 foot tall, yeah, 39 foot long. Yep, it's four sections, and there's thirty-something cross members we can install anywhere we want. It's overwhelming.

SPEAKER_02

We can have we can have shells with you know four inches of space between them if we want.

SPEAKER_01

We could. Well, those are for the boxes of screws.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

Now, I don't know, like when you're three and a half foot in and you're like gotta reach in for that last one. We need one of those um, you know, the little gun uh the thing where you pick up trash off the ground, you pair those.

SPEAKER_04

I'm excited to get stuff off the floor, yeah, and and see a truck

Mattresses Run And Weather Delays

SPEAKER_04

coming in. Uh I'm excited for ops to see that that come to fruition. I imagine as uh owners, you're definitely excited to see that part. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I like the idea that's gonna make everyone's life a lot more better. I mean, just to see where we've come from and where we're at now, and and and to watch this stuff develop and grow, it's like it's it's pretty cool. It is it is literally the next phase of the company, right? That's kind of cool. And people think people talk like, what do you have in the shelf? Like, what are you gonna put in shelves? Like there's a lot of stuff. We're a trekking company. What could we possibly have? It's like we have spare refrigerators, uh, and these are not tractor trailer refrigerators, they're big, they're big refrigerators, so you know, when you pull them out of the cabinet of one of our custom sleepers, they're quite large. Um we've got spare refrigerators that need to go up and be stored somewhere. You have uh spare toolboxes. Uh you might ask yourself, uh you might ask me, how could we have spare toolboxes? It seems like you'd order a truck, comes with toolboxes. How do you have additional toolboxes? And the answer is I'm not sure either.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, I do.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

I w I went and collected uh, I think it was two of them from Youngstown.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Somehow there was some welding issues and they fell off someone's truck.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I remember that.

SPEAKER_04

And then I don't know how they got new ones maybe put on. I don't know what happened.

SPEAKER_02

No, I think those were back on at some point. I think once okay, they were another shot.

SPEAKER_04

Something else happened because these went in the dumpster. I don't remember where we went to get that done, but yeah, the ones that fell off went in the dumpster, and some calls were made. Could if someone came from Highfield to pick them up, could we dumpster dive? And the answer was yes. And um, I was the delegated person to go all the way to Youngstown in in the cargo van. And dumpster, yeah. Um, graciously they had already dumpster dove for me. Dumpster dived? Dumpster dove. They retrieved them for me and they were waiting. They even loaded them for me. Yeah. Um, and then I brought two, I'm pretty sure it was two two toolboxes back. I think two and I'm eyeballing butter, um, zucchini bread, if everybody's wondering, because at the time she was um driving as a contractor.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Uh on the FedEx side, and I believe they came off of her truck.

SPEAKER_01

Oh. Yeah. You broke them.

SPEAKER_06

I did not break them. If I remember we were driving down the road.

SPEAKER_01

And they just fell off.

SPEAKER_06

And yeah, they said there was a welding issue.

SPEAKER_01

A welding issue. Yeah. They're bolted on, but it was a welding issue.

SPEAKER_03

Me and Don had that happen. We actually had stopped and went into the grocery store and are coming out, and we see it hanging on the back of the truck, and we're like, uh, what is that? We had we had a batch at that point.

SPEAKER_04

Do you like, do we kick the rest of it off and store it, or do we try to figure out how to attach it?

SPEAKER_03

Don attached it. We actually took straps and he ratched it up and got it secure enough to where we could get to a shop and they re-railed it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Huh.

SPEAKER_03

Because I think we were somewhere in like California or something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Wow. It's interesting. Like we we've had a couple, I can think of three major like toolbox failures. Not like that have failed on a truck. I mean where they were installed and there was an installation that affected a lot of trucks. Yeah. So uh we had a whole batch of toolboxes where the people didn't weld the aluminum, like, because so a toolbox on our trucks is usually uh 24 by 24, and then they're 36 to 60 inches wide. And all it is is a piece of metal, sheet metal, that are aluminum that they stamp into a square, and then you've got a seam. So they weld that seam. Uh sometimes they do each each qu uh edge, sometimes they only do one edge, depending on how they fold the the the the metal. Um and that's how they make these toolboxes. And they had a whole batch where that that weld was bad. And so they would just material on their end.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, welding rod or something.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, something, something, uh yeah, use the uh stainless steel for the aluminum or something. Something something went awry. And so a few months in, we started having people call up and be like, hey, um, everything from the toolbox just fell into the ground. The toolbox is still there.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah. But everything just fell out.

SPEAKER_01

So that was one thing. We had another batch where um when we hang these toolboxes off of our trucks, um, there's a custom uh mount that's made that actually um bolts into the uh cross members of the of the uh the box. Yep. And um there was an issue there where they used I I it's it's been a little bit, so I'm trying to remember. I think it was they used the wrong gauge aluminum, or maybe they used the wrong quality aluminum. It was one of the two. So like you've got the gauge, which is the thickness of the metal, right? But there's also quality levels, right? So like just because aluminum is an eighth of an inch thick on this sheet, this other one can be a better quality material, still an eighth of an inch. But it it holds up better to tearing or it holds up better to strength or whatever, right? So you have quality, but you also have thickness. So it's one of those two that was off. And uh so they stamped these pieces, and then it

Pallet Shelving Arrives

SPEAKER_01

just bolts on super easy. And we had a whole batch of those. I think that is the one you're talking about, where they just ripped right along the seam of where they were of where they were stamped, and they made that little S curve or whatever. So we had those, we had to have all those inspected. I think it might even still be on the list of things to do just in case we just in case one pops up. Yep. Um and the the trailer manufacturer that puts the uh boxes on for us, they I think are using stainless steel ones now, or is it just thicker better aluminum?

SPEAKER_02

I think they're using stainless, but they also have a lip on the bottom. Yes. That the toolbox sits on, and they're not just hanging anymore. They sit on that lip. Yeah, but they are using a better quality bracket than they used to. Yeah, so it's been uh trial and error.

SPEAKER_01

It sounds like toolboxes are fun. Yeah, yeah. Uh we had this whole company came in, they're like, oh man, you use those RC toolboxes, which are nice, but we use we're we're a much better toolbox and we're a little cheaper. And yeah, we were like, okay, well let's give these guys a shot. Oh man, junk. Junk toolboxes.

SPEAKER_02

We're like, no, we'll go back to buying the RCs. I remember talking to the RC guys at Matt's a couple years back, and we were having a problem with the latches and getting like the the screw would come loose at the latch in place. And one of our suppliers was like, Oh, I can't get that, I have to buy the whole lock. And I talked to the RC guy, he's like, Oh no, here's your part number. This is what you need. And I was like, Okay, thank you. Yes. No problem, no problem getting that part ever since.

SPEAKER_01

You know what's crazy? One of the reasons I like RC toolboxes so much is that they do repair pieces for all their toolboxes. A lot of toolboxes you can't. A lot of toolboxes, you dent the toolbox, you you break the door. That's it. That's it. You're getting a new toolbox.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

RC sells new hinges for the doors. They sell the door kits themselves. So if you just like had someone hit your door, they got a big dent in it, but the rest of the toolbox is fine, you just buy a whole new door. Yeah, um, the door handle, like you said, you can replace the handles, but even the parts and pieces inside. So there's like a little rubber It's they call it the Hasp kit. Oh, HASP.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, that makes sense. It's basically a two inch screw or bolt, um, and it has a square nut on it, and it goes through the rubber. piece that attaches to it. So the rubber piece is what's making connection.

SPEAKER_01

The rubber piece is almost like it's almost like a really thick rubber hose. It's that kind of you can imagine.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yep. And then that holds on to it holds on it holds onto the toolbox when you lock it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So it goes to the bottom or the top there's two locked latches. But that rubber piece is what makes connection with the toolbox. So you're not having metal on metal and scraping stuff up and there's not a whole lot of vibration there and it it works great. And they except when they come loose.

SPEAKER_01

Except when they come loose and you gotta replace them. But again, they're replaceable. They're um and just like they're the they the rubber seals around the doors it doesn't matter what toolbox by now you've seen we've tons of toolboxes. That rubber's going to come loose at some point. Yep. You can buy the replacement rubber pieces from them. Like it's they do such a good job and and their doors are stainless steel. So stainless steel doesn't need repolishing. Once it's finished and that mirror finished it's done for life. An aluminum toolbox you can give the doors mirrored but after a couple truck washes after a few acidic rains it's dull. Yep. Super dull and so that's another reason I like uh these these RC toolboxes so much are they expensive? Insanely expensive insanely expensive. We talk about a toolbox that's three grand and people are like I can go to Northern Tool and buy one for 600 bucks that does the exact same job you're not wrong. But for all the reasons we just listed that's why these are are so much better.

SPEAKER_04

So why how many do you have how many toolboxes do you have in the shop? How many toolboxes? Well it's not just our shop how many toolboxes do you have out there that will eventually be in your shop.

SPEAKER_02

We got rid of eight in the last week we get two weeks I'm getting rid of three more so when you say you're getting rid of them like are you selling them?

SPEAKER_04

No, throwing them in the dump stream are you recycling for money?

SPEAKER_02

These are toolboxes that our fearless leader happened to get at a amazing discount um from a manufacturer. And so picked them up knowing we had trucks coming in that we wouldn't have toolbox on or hadn't ordered toolboxes for yet. Got it. So when these trucks are coming in we are putting these toolboxes in and they're being installed on the truck.

SPEAKER_04

Got it.

SPEAKER_02

We also picked up some uh saddle bags they call them they're the the step toolboxes that go on a tractor. Correct they go up to the catwalk on the back of the tractor um for tractors that we get that don't have the toolboxes because there's on the tractor there's limited space for where you can put toolboxes. Sure. So we picked up some of those as well so when we get tractors in we're installing those on the tractors. We can put chains in those we can you have the steps to go up to the catwalk to get your load bars or attach your air hoses and your pigtail.

SPEAKER_04

So what about like the toolboxes I picked up from Youngstown that fell off somebody's that you might have?

SPEAKER_02

Those were repurposed a long time ago. Yeah. So they are getting oh those those were repurposed a long time ago like you said. When we first started you and I in the yard right there were probably six toolboxes in the cards unit.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Uh we have one of those left and it's the only reason we have that one left is

Why Toolboxes Fail

SPEAKER_02

because it's 60 inch or no it's 72. 72 it's huge. It's a huge toolbox it's a refrigerator we haven't had anywhere any a truck to put that on yet but at some point it'll get it'll get repurposed also. That's cool.

SPEAKER_04

So we um so it was well you knew you because you're a business owner you knew it was worth the drive to go get those oh yeah I think they threw them away because there was a hole like it had been drug on the ground there was a hole. But you knew it could be welded and that's exactly welded and fixed.

SPEAKER_01

That's exactly what it was and we had that we had that section uh cut out and they and they just welded in a new strip and then they flipped the toolbox over because you can do that again door kit they come right off love RC um and then they put it back on and and you have a sealed perfectly good toolbox.

SPEAKER_04

Got it. So that's pretty cool. So you have space now I know this was all going back to you have space now on your racks for these right to store some of that stuff to space all the time.

SPEAKER_01

And that is that is the thing. I mean you keep in mind uh ELW has toolboxes of ours Cap City trailers has toolboxes of ours we have toolboxes of ours we've got toolboxes spread all across this city because they're huge and so we don't have a lot of places for them. And then any toolbox I could recover I did because they are so expensive. And we did, you know, for a while there we were on a uh well we talked about on the show we were on a like buying a uh repo kind of kick for a while so we bought quite a few trucks that uh were a standard spec. So very stripped down sleeper um that we'd send to Bolt and have them upfit it to our standard um and then they typically would only come with one toolbox so then we would outfit them with the two or one or two extra toolboxes needed. They didn't come with lift gates we had lift gates yada yada so yeah no any any anything that we could do to minimize that cost if we could recycle we would um like we have a truck right now that got totaled out last year two years ago some either either last year the year for it's been a while um and we still have that truck because it's got parts and pieces we can absolutely take and and use um we're taking the toolboxes off it as a matter of fact and um so it's it to me it makes sense when you have things like that you can recycle that are still good. There are certainly parts on a truck that are not good. And we will not try to recycle them you know but if it if it is recyclable and it is a good part then we will we'll do that.

SPEAKER_04

That's pretty cool. Uh are you going to try to put all your um blankets I always feel like you have more blankets ratio to truck ratio.

SPEAKER_02

What's your question? I'm sorry uh are you excited to put your blankets out of the way up in everything out of the way I know me too I mean you have a lot of blankets we have a lot of blankets we have a lot of um pallet jacks I want to get out of the way we have chains what is the plan for the scooters the scooters will have to be moved in order to get things up and then they probably go right back in that same spot. I have a suggestion.

SPEAKER_01

Okay you want to put them up there too we put them up there too yeah on top of each other yeah three different levels of scooters oh yeah I think it'd look pretty slick I think it'd look great sure we just need a what like an eight foot pallet like a display case why not we get some lighting I've been to like bars and museums where they hang them from the ceiling.

SPEAKER_02

I we were just at one they hung an airplane from the ceiling there you go ours is going to get ridden soon I by soon you mean I I mean in in in four or five months.

SPEAKER_04

How fast is frostbite yeah I have faith I I bet you there's gonna be a weird wonky day in March.

SPEAKER_01

Well according to that little it depends on which one you talk about I'm I like Buckeye Bill and his his he he you know he didn't see his shadow who is Buckeye Bill because I saw y'all in the group we have a uh a outer belt group uh I saw y'all talking about him but I don't know anything about him he's the pucks tony Phil of Ohio do we need a pucks tony phil of oh if he gives a better uh a better recommendation than pucks Tony Phil we sure do I like this someone commented they're like I think it might have been Heather like he saw his shadow it was cloudy outside the sun wouldn't even look better how could he see his shadow all the camera lights that were focused on him they like predicted it at like six five six in the morning yeah have you seen have you seen like his uh batting average no it's horrible it's like 30% or 35% that should bring you some some some solace that he's he's typically wrong.

SPEAKER_04

Oh good so he's wrong. So again I'm hoping that there's gonna be there will be one day in the month of March. Even if it's like a one day offer and and we cashed in on it I've been sending Vince motorcycle reels.

SPEAKER_01

Post spring is a thing here.

SPEAKER_06

I'm ready for post spring I'm sure last year this time you were telling us how many days until spring.

SPEAKER_01

You are automatically down to like 40 something days. Oh my gosh don't say it never mind that's too many that's too many I haven't I think we're 25 days from post spring number one post spring uh I don't think that I think we're probably 14 days you think I do I do I think it's close I think it's gonna be a it's gonna be a a strong pop we're gonna get us what did I say 41 I did what'd you say what is it it's 44.

SPEAKER_02

44 okay well that's under price is right rolls yeah it's close uh yes but the bike's not going out until we get a good rain scooter the scooter's not going out until we get a good rain to wash away the salt.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah I hear you yeah I've got two pickup trucks I have a 96 um F-350 square big it's my monster truck yeah it is it's huge it is huge it's it's it's lifted it's got the big tires it's uh I I think I'm at it's got um it's a F-350 but it's the old square one um it's single rear single rear tires it's not got dues but it's four by four um but it's an eight foot bed eight foot bed and it's four-door which if you remember back then they didn't do four door trucks the only way you could get them is an F-350 because that was like for the crew the like construction crews and stuff that's the reason they made it's really a dope truck it's a really cool truck it has the giant camper shell at two I've taken it off

Choosing RC Toolboxes

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I'm when spring comes along I'm getting rid of that I might put one of those Tanya covers over the back I'm not sure I just I think the camper shell takes away too much from its aesthetic um but I have that and then I have a 1992 F-150 this thing is pink it is a flare side it's got the V8 uh the Mustang V8 in it it is the cutest funnest little truck in the world it is cute and uh I will personally inspect the highway with a salt meter before I take the we don't salt either one of them we don't salt our driveway because of those two trucks like I'm not taking any chances at all it is it it just matters that much to me to keep these things fresh because up here you don't we were talking about this the other day you don't see old vehicles here no you don't we like when you're riding around Columbus everything every single vehicle you see was made at least in 2005 or newer it's very rare about that it's very rare you see something older than that because the salt destroys the vehicles so even if the motor's got lots of life left in it your body and your frame are gone. So you hardly ever see them and then when you do see them it's because it's from someone down south who's brought one up so uh or it's grandma and it's just lived in a garage its whole life and gone to CVS and back.

SPEAKER_02

There there's apparently a big trade in truck beds and fenders from Texas to Ohio. Oh yeah just for that reason.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah that makes sense yeah that makes sense so on my big F 350 I have to actually have one of my fenders replaced um it has a little bit of rust going through it and it's all the way through so it needs to be it's tiny it's hard to see but it's there. So I'm gonna have that fender replaced the rest of the truck's rust free. Um and I asked him like can I still get a fender for this? I mean it's a 96 it's 30 years old it's 30 years old. Yeah it's older than you it's older than me um and uh they're like oh yeah like easy peasy all day long.

SPEAKER_04

So how often do you wash your car Jerry? Your new one is are you once a week or an excellent question more than once a week.

SPEAKER_02

Because when you came every other when you came to the yard the other day and I saw your car I was like does he bring somebody to detail it with him here because it was it was sparkly.

SPEAKER_03

If I don't leave the house it just stays in the garage oh that's the ticket don't use your car don't use your car yeah if I do have to go out like if I go to the yard then that's the first place I go after I get home because car wash is literally right down the street. So I figure out the yard there's a lot of gravel there's you know the road and everything else so I just whip in there get it done and then go home and pull in the garage.

SPEAKER_04

And do you have a Moo Moo account? Do you use Moo Moo? Yeah okay the and you do you you don't have to tell well I I'm asking do you use the service the scan a fee like pay for the monthly fee? I never thought it was kind of a thing to do until we moved here. Yeah but it totally makes sense and to go through the car wash two or three times in a week I know sounds weird to some sounds weird to me a couple times in a day sounds weird to me because in Oregon we're not doing that.

SPEAKER_01

I agree same back home. Do you salt your roads in Oregon? No use cinders no we use in in in Louisiana we might and on the I5 I think they might have started doing it but most of it is is cinder. So down in South Louisiana we don't salt our roads we Tony sashays them but we don't salt them and uh if you were on Facebook two weeks ago you get that reference but um we uh we don't salt the roads so yeah you could easily you could not love bug season but through other times of the of the year you can easily go a couple three weeks without washing your car it's not a big deal once a month.

SPEAKER_04

Ours was dust because everything was a dirt road oh yeah now when once you got off like there were your main roads yes which were very few and far between and then everything else was just dirt so it was very dusty. Oh yeah so typically it was you were washing your car but not not a service the ones in my town were all coin operated had to do it yourself. Yeah um I think there was a service in Bend but Bend was a 45 minute drive so you're not gonna go there to wash your car. So to do it here though makes sense I think to have a paid service with the sticker to do go through is and I think is it unlimited it's unlimited we pay for we pay for unlimited but it's so worth it to just wash the car twice in a month and you paid for it.

SPEAKER_01

It's reasonable it's reasonably priced yeah um it does save water if you're environmentally conscious they do recover all that and then they filter it and they then they reuse it if it's if it's reusable all that stuff. So it is it's it's it's not bad for the environment it's it's it's a decent wash it's not great wash but it's a decent wash it gets corrosion it's you're it you're fighting corrosion the whole time you're here. Yeah yeah you know down in South Louisiana dad had a service too to wash his cars and that was he taught

Storage, Reuse, And Cost Control

SPEAKER_01

me and Melissa how to uh clean cars and then that was our Saturday ritual and uh yeah and we did a much better job than Moo Moo does. Oh sure um oh yeah who got underneath yeah who did the undercarriage wash well we never did the undercarriage I didn't know what undercarriage was I this so we talk about like all the things that I learned uh or Eric and I have learned rather uh being over the road we talked about gelling up the truck and making that mistake and stuff undercarriage wash that was something that I've had seen at car washes for and I'm like well okay who you ripping off you know what I mean like it's uh it's uh it reminds me of the Seinfeld episode they talk about he's buying a new Audi or something like that not Audi um Saab remember Saab yeah we make airplanes and cars yeah and uh they were talking about the under uh spraying the undercoating or whatever and uh he's with the salesman and the salesman was like we don't even know what that means like so uh I always thought undercoat underwasher or like undercarriage who cares it's not a big deal you and then we started driving truck they told us like no you need to get the undercarriage done because all the salt and everything gets in there and it starts corroding your frame and you have all these issues and I'm like oh that makes sense and in again in South Louisiana it's not a thought it's not even a concept the only time I ever saw salt corrosion on a vehicle was when I was like 12 or 13 years old and dad and I went to Avery Island we went to Tabasco Sauce saw where they make that that is a smell you that takes days to get over there's some like you think of Tabasco sauce what it smells like imagine barrels of it around you. Anyways um and then we went to the salt dome dad worked for Cargill flour milling and Cargill salt mine is on Avery Island and so we actually took the uh it's so freaking creepy you're going fourteen hundred feet underground and uh they put you in a uh elevator but there's only one elevator shaft so the you know 100,000 pounds of salt they pull out of the earth in it they they dump it into a hopper they pull the hopper straight up and directly underneath that is your elevator car. So when you're going down you're going down it's empty but when you come back up you've got a hundred thousand pounds of salt directly above your head. Wow so it's a it's a little bit creepy. So we we we went down there and saw that and uh what because it's it's the only access point to the show to the uh to the mine um like they'll do those huge you know those huge caterpillar trucks you see that are working in mines those dump trucks that are massive everybody gets the Tonka dump truck as a kid they have those they literally get them from Caterpillar they break them down piece by piece and bring them down piece by piece into the mine and then they take like the giant bucket because it's one piece and they cut it into pieces to fit into the into the hopper they drop it down that way and then when the your very first stop is their machine room and it's this giant cathedral size huge room and it's just an auto shop where they're just rebuilding these tractors and stuff because that's what they do. But you go through the graveyard because there's no sense in hauling it out. Sure. You just leave it there. Sure. And so you see all these salted corroded vehicles that was my only time seeing what salt does to a car because it just doesn't do anything in South Louisiana to cars. And we are far enough away even though it's humid we're far enough away from the ocean that we're not getting that salt spray that Florida gets you know so it um no it was rel relevant revelatory revelatory to me of like oh we have to actually get the undercarriage of these things washed washing the engine of a truck. How many people have you talked to are like I don't get the engine of my truck washed that's bad you can't do that we learned no you gotta get the uh truck engine washed how else will you spot leaks?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah and you're like oh that makes sense not only that do you really want salt eating the engine block yeah one of the things I didn't realize until I started trucking was there were different levels of windshield washer fluid.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah you know in LA we had windshield washer fluid blue period blue blue we had we had green like summer formula green bugs for bugs yeah but blue yeah and then down the road it's like oh we got zero negative 10 negative 20 ice blocker negative 40 negative 40 super ultra yep exactly i i had no idea yeah no clue yeah that was we just kept the negative stuff in all year round that's what we that's what we ended up doing was uh we just do negative 20 um and we would fill our toolbox up but back then uh can we talk about washer fluid and how expensive it is that's crazy expensive we used to buy 88 cents a gallon yeah back in my day when I was a blah blah blah I found it on sale at Home Depot for like 250 a gallon yeah I bought four cases yes but I think now if you go to Walmart isn't it like three dollars a gallon or something like that?

SPEAKER_02

It's up there yeah it's crazy it's up there and that's for the the no name brand yes if you're gonna buy a Ranex it's like five bucks a gallon I'm not buying Ranex no how many um how many gallons do you are but it's not coming out the way I wanted to I think it's like three we all know what you're saying yeah we're just letting you go ahead and get right through it yeah all right try again and action how many gallons does each truck use?

SPEAKER_04

Thank you I was gonna blame it on my tamoxifen because it's not coming together. About two from empty to a full about two so each truck takes two yes so if you're using the fancy stuff that'd be 10 bucks. Oh yeah and and then if you're using it just in a couple hundred mile radius you could use a lot of it quickly.

SPEAKER_02

You could if you're it'd be very expensive. You can't convince me that the Raynex stuff at five dollars a gallon is any better than the off-brand stuff at 250 well let me explain to you Patrick you got some splaining to do it's got that it's got that beautiful label.

SPEAKER_01

It does yeah it's more ergonomic it's not round it's more like rectangular

Salt, Rust, And Classic Trucks

SPEAKER_01

elongate elongated um and uh it puts a film across your windshield that makes glare yes a thousand times worse that's the part I never understood like I get it's marketing right like windshield wipers are kinda the same thing kinda not completely kinda if you go with the really cheap like five dollar windshield wiper blades they're terrible but if you go with like the difference between like a ten twelve dollar wiper blade versus a twenty two dollar wiper blade is almost nothing. When's the last time you we bought wiper wiper blades let me ask you that question.

SPEAKER_02

When's the last time you went somewhere and bought and priced out wiper blades?

SPEAKER_01

Uh Eric one was at. You and I were in the sprinter van. Where were we going?

SPEAKER_00

Outside of uh Cincinnati.

SPEAKER_01

We have where'd we go? How long ago was that?

SPEAKER_06

Last year. A couple months ago. Really?

SPEAKER_01

Last year. Okay. Oh, so let me tell you.

SPEAKER_00

Well, we got wiper blades for the sprinter. We got wiper blades for the sprinters.

SPEAKER_01

That's big sprinter. Yeah, because the people that take care of the sprinter van for me. Anyways. Um use it so rarely. Use it so rarely, and they only do it in dry conditions. Because why would you go to the landfill when it's raining? That's stuck in the mud. Get stuck in the mud. They're expensive.

SPEAKER_02

Crazy expensive. Crazy expensive. So FIDA had them on sale recently. And how many cases?

SPEAKER_01

So that's so there's an entire section on the pallet racking of just whack reporting. FIDA will have them delivered in in three to six weeks when they order them from the manufacturer. I I I bought ten. How much were they? Six bucks. Ten. Yeah. Dozen cases? What?

SPEAKER_06

That's what I thought. He was gonna get ten boxes. He just got one box of boxes.

SPEAKER_01

Look, are they the blades or are they the the little metal? They're the old style. Yeah. But they work. They work. They work fine. In winter time, the blade is great. Because I just think it's a little stronger. Sure, I think so too. But in but a but a fresh brand new wiper blade, period is awesome. It's great. Six dollars? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Are they still on sale? Are they still on sale? Probably.

SPEAKER_01

I'm calling Neil now. No, call um Linny. Linny, just shoot me a text real quick. Hey, Patrick just told me to order 100.

SPEAKER_06

You should have gotten 10 boxes. I should have gotten 10 boxes.

SPEAKER_01

And then you know, one thing we were talking about doing was setting up an account with um like O'Reilly's or Napa. Right. Napa, these people. Napa we talked to Napa because when it comes to filters and things like that, we probably spend 200,000 or more a year. Like it's a lot. It's not it's not insane, but it it's in filters. It's a lot, in filters. In filters. Filters.

SPEAKER_04

Not anti-gel air filters, oil filters, filters.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, filters. Not anti-gel, not oil, not windshield wipers, not other products they sell, headlights, right? Filters. And so we talked about getting a national account set up because we have national accounts with freightliners, we have national accounts with uh battery source bulbs, we have national accounts with a lot of these places. And uh they said when you spend a million dollars a year in filters, call us.

SPEAKER_06

Wow.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, that's insane. Like, I don't think you could argue that we're a small customer, we're pretty big, right? Like quarter million dollars in paper. Yeah. That's a lot.

SPEAKER_04

Could you have a local account, but not a national?

SPEAKER_01

We could have a local account. That's how your shops get their accounts, right? But not a national account. And I'm like, well, that's ridiculous, because we run coast to coast. I can't just do that.

SPEAKER_04

Can you start off with a local person and then move up?

SPEAKER_01

So our local person is the one that kind of said that, so I'm a little turned off by my local person. But there is this new shop that we're working with, out or not shop, but uh uh supply house, what do you call it?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, supply house, part supply, part shop.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, out of uh actually real close to the old yard. Yeah. And um they are a division of Napa, but it's they're strictly commercial vehicles. Um, and so I think we're gonna talk to them about trying to set up a national account because uh when we were um this is probably so wrong. Anyways, we went to uh O'Reilly, I think it was O'Reilly Advance, one of them, I don't know. AutoZone could have been Walmart, I don't know. When we went to Sears Auto supply, um they we we bought a lot of wiper blades from them, and they eventually got to a point where they're like, we know you don't buy enough for a national account, but but a local customer does have one, so as long as you pay with a credit card, we'll give you their discount. Ethical or not, I don't know, but I was like, let's do it. It brought the wiper blades down from like $26 a blade to $10. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Wow. They were more than half price.

SPEAKER_01

It was insane. I was like, there's that much markup in wiper blades? It's it blew me away. So I'd love to get a national account, and we're working on it, but like Nap and some of these other companies, they want you to spend outrageous amounts of money to make it worth it. You know, like Freightliner and these other trucking companies, they know you're gonna spend the money and they know that you're a loyal customer, so they're happy giving you a national account. Right. These other ones that they just they're weird.

SPEAKER_04

So it is weird. Interesting. Well, I'm excited for the shop. I like shop talk with Vince. We should add a little segment weather and shop talk with vents.

SPEAKER_01

You know, we should do talk driver's lounge for a second. Oh, yeah. Oh, let's not. Let's talk about driver's lounge next week. Okay, yeah, sounds good. Because you got some planning to do.

SPEAKER_02

Oh. Do I?

SPEAKER_01

You asked for a budget for us to relock the building with all fancy locks that will be uh done by the app on your phone that will be auto locking, that have all the bells and whistles you can possibly want. Yes. And I said, okay, as long as they made all these demands, you said they do. You said total project, 200 bucks.

SPEAKER_02

I did not say that ever.

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Ever.

SPEAKER_01

Ever. And then the latest update I got was the price of one lock is gonna be uh like the price of an Izuzu.

SPEAKER_02

And I told when I told you that, we both agreed that no, we're not doing that. And I said the same thing, we're not doing that with that lock, and we just will not have those features that aren't necessary. They'd be nice to have, but aren't necessary.

SPEAKER_01

It would I listen, it would be nice to be able to unlock the front door from the moon. Yeah, it would be.

SPEAKER_02

It would be yeah, just in case. Yeah, just I'm on the moon one day.

SPEAKER_06

Planning a moon trip next week.

SPEAKER_02

Are you so yeah, you know, if somebody's like I need to get in,

Car Wash Strategy And Undercarriage

SPEAKER_02

what's the code? You don't want to give them the code.

SPEAKER_01

So you pull up your moon unit and the Starlink uh little thing when you don't have uh internet. Well, this is Moonlink. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So I I did give you a price for another lock yesterday. Yes, you did. That you approved. And it doesn't work. I haven't received it yet. Oh but as I was looking for looking at that one to purchase it, I see you might also like. Oh. And it was the features that we want for a lot less money. But does it have Moon Link? It doesn't have Moon Link. But we don't want Moon Link on that door.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_02

So so it that one will that one will be here tomorrow. The other one I quoted you'll be here Friday. Okay. Because the other one just might not work. The less expensive one? Yeah. It might not work. You might get it and be like, Yeah, and if it doesn't, it goes back, but the other one will be here Friday. So yes, next next time we will discuss everything lounge related.

SPEAKER_01

I can't wait. I can't wait to discuss lounge-related paraphernalia. I can't wait to see how long it takes for people to realize the carpet we're sitting on now is also the carpet in the lounge.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

And there's other we we have to move it back and forth every time.

SPEAKER_02

It's a pain. It's a pain. It's a pain. I agree. Even the couches have to go back and forth. They do what? Oh.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, we don't give anything away.

SPEAKER_02

We actually record in the in the driver's lounge.

SPEAKER_01

We do. Yeah. Or we should. Should we can. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

No.

SPEAKER_02

No. It's too far. It's too far.

SPEAKER_01

Real quick shout out to Alice. Thank you so much for uh sponsoring uh me with my five-hour energy fix. Uh got to hang out with them the other day. They were uh not at our shop, but they were a couple doors down. So we walked over there, we hung out with them, got to see everything. She got some really cool kitties. I love it uh what they've actually done with their truck. They've um got these little it's adorable. Anyways. Uh their truck's really cute set up. It's really cute setup. They got these like little shelves that they hang on the on the doors for the cats to be able to kind of walk around. And then um, they have one of the very rare upper bunk uh uh reefer trucks. So uh instead of it being cabinets above the dinette set, it's actually a solid bunk. Um not a solid bunk, but a bunk bed. And up there they've got the cat house set up. It's it's really it's cute. And you know, I'm I'm allergic to cats. I was nervous about like the dander and all this stuff when I went and hung out and and walked inside the truck. It is spotless. There's not a you don't see a cat here anywhere. There's no nothing. It it's just like, oh, this is what you want to see. Like it's comfortable, they got the cool thing going on. Uh the cats are adorable. The ones that would come out and see me, there was a couple cats that wouldn't. I'm like, really?

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Huh?

SPEAKER_01

Look at me, I'm lovable. Uh, but it was really cool to just be able to hang out and chat with them and see uh what they've done. And uh we got talking about five hour, and they got this really cool flavor called transfusion. Transfusion? Yes. I had never heard of it. And so uh they they they gave me one. I also got a um a uh a pop, not a popsicle. Is it a popsicle? Lollipop? Lollipop. They got a lollipop made out of um oh what's that that that that tahine?

SPEAKER_07

Yes, tahine, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

The tahine lollipop. Oh, it's crazy. Uh so good. Um and then I got a couple like of these little coffee bean uh candies, and uh they were all great. Uh, did try this tonight, so if you see me hyped up, it's on this. Uh the transfusion five hour energy. It's really, really good. We were trying to figure out uh before we started the show. I cracked it open, and I was like, what is this flavor? Because Transfusion doesn't really tell you anything, and we're all trying to figure out, and Melissa was the one who was like, Well, it says right here on the label it's grape, ginger, and lime. And we're like, oh, well, that involves reading. Yes. Um, but it uh it it's it's actually very tasty. It's a very good one. Uh and you were just saying, Heather, you were just saying that they have this at Walmart now here in Columbus as well.

SPEAKER_06

I think so. They have it somewhere nearby. I know we saw an advertisement or something for you.

SPEAKER_01

So I'd never heard of it. Uh I always get the mango orange. That's kind of my favorite. Uh mango orange, peach, and mango, one of those. Yeah, something like that. That's always the one I get.

SPEAKER_02

I always do the experimental ones with no label on them.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, like the uh I did that same thing with the um airheads. Yeah. Get the white airheads. Yeah. Yeah. Mystery flavor. So um, no, I I really do appreciate it. This one's really, really good. It's had me, it's give me my wings. There you go. There you go. They can tell you right now, I was almost asleep before we started. So uh thank you so much. If you hear this podcast and you're like, how can we support it? We actually like what y'all have to say, even though you babble on like idiots sometimes. Um and you do squirrels constantly constantly are going to and you talk about things that have nothing to do with trucking, but your trucking podcast. Anyway, so if you are trying to figure out how you can support our channel, just share this with other people you think that might enjoy it. Send them a link uh or or throw up on Facebook or Instagram something like, hey, we listen to these guys, you may or gals, you may want to check them out as well. We just want to help you get down the road a little bit easier. We all know that uh, you know, music's great when you're driving down the road, but something there's something about someone talking to you, you know, that just makes those miles disappear.

SPEAKER_04

Sure.

SPEAKER_01

And uh we want to be able to provide that, give you a little insight to the company, give you a little insight to who we are as people, um, and uh sometimes give you trucking news when that seems relevant. Yeah. Like the yard. Yeah. If you uh don't really know anybody you would think you would enjoy the podcast that you would send it to, but you want to leave us a comment or a review, please do that. That that goes wonders as well, sends all that out to the broad universe, and other people find us that way. Um if you are thinking like, hey, I'd like to know a little more about your company, highfield trucking, what you do, uh, Jerry, what

Washer Fluid, Wipers, And Supply Chains

SPEAKER_01

are the details? How can they do that?

SPEAKER_03

Reach us at highfieldtrucking.com or you can give recruiting a call at 833 Highfield. That's 833 493 4353 option one, Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.

SPEAKER_01

And if you call outside those hours, leave a message. We'll get back to you Monday morning or Tuesday morning, whatever. Next business day. Next business day. Yep.

SPEAKER_04

Yep. Um we got the live chat. We can do that on the website.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. Yep. And I I do live chat all the time. If I have any if I have a question or talking to a company, I love the live chat feature. I'll I'd do that all the time over a phone call. And just give a couple questions answered, and then it's like, all right, let's have a conversation. Let's talk about it. Vince, if they want to stay up to date with what's going on in the yard, keep watching the outer belt.

SPEAKER_02

Listen to the outer belt. We'll let you know what's going on with the yard.

SPEAKER_01

So in the meantime, thank you so much for everybody for hanging out with us. Uh you are the reason we do the show. Uh, thank y'all for supporting our show. If you have anything that you would like us to talk about, topics, conversations, ideas, drop us a link below. Shoot us an email at the outerbelt at uh gmail.com. That's a link below. I meant a comment below. Drop us a comment below. We'd love to talk about uh whatever it is you want to hear us. We uh obviously have opinions. And um until we see each other next time, stay safe, make good decisions. Don't leave money on the table and keep those wills a turn.

SPEAKER_07

Good night.