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How A Box Truck, A Frozen River, And New Factories Explain The Future Of Freight

HyfieldTrucking Season 4 Episode 14

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A frozen lake in 60-degree weather, a box truck that needs a temperamental jump, and a skyline that hits like a drumroll—this ride is equal parts laugh, lesson, and logistics. We open with everyday road life: humidity battles, clear-ice experiments, and why sitting over the axle in a cab-over turns the highway into an IMAX screen. That curiosity about ice leads to real aviation insights on icing windows and why extreme cold can mean less sticking, not more. The thread is simple: pay attention, and the small details teach you how the big system works.

Then we push into the engine room of the economy: a manufacturing “pipeline” that isn’t a pipe at all. John Deere shifting excavator production to North Carolina, a distribution hub in Indiana, precision components in Georgia, advanced electronics in Idaho, and plastics pellets in Texas—signals that tariffs, risk, and demand are pulling production closer to the Americas. We connect the dots from Airbus’s Mobile play to just-in-time realities at Honda’s Marysville complex, where a hot load can restart a line. This is where the job math grows: a modest headcount on the floor hides a wider ring of electricians, tool makers, warehousing, hotels, and lunch counters that keep a plant alive.

We don’t skip the hard parts. Chicago’s I-294 snarl takes the worst-bottleneck crown while the Cross Bronx remains a guaranteed idle. Safety is blunt—stay belted, know your surroundings—and perspective stays human, with movie detours (hello, Renfield) and the joy of cityscapes at night: Cincinnati’s instant reveal, Nashville’s glow, Charlotte’s clean lines, and the slow-burn expanse of the desert states. Whether you love skylines or the sweep of plains, the road keeps showing how geography, policy, and freight collide.

Hit play to travel from jump leads to job leads, from cold fronts to factory fronts. If you dig truck life, supply chains, onshoring trends, and the odd Nicolas Cage cameo, you’ll feel at home here. Subscribe, rate, and share with a friend who loves a good skyline reveal, and drop us a note with the topics you want us to break down next.


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Banter, Weather Swings, And Wardrobe Bits

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I missed my cue. Hey everybody, welcome to the Outer Belt. I'm Patrick, and you all know my friends. Chili.

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Buttermilk.

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Eric.

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Zoo Kinney Bread.

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And Jerry. And it has been. You know, in the amount of time that we've been doing this pod, this show, this cast, this streaming service provided content, this commercially backed enterprise. I don't think we've ever had a break quite like we had between the last episode and this episode. It was it was a it was it was something. It was a break.

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I thought we've done it before.

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Have we? I think we have. We've done two episodes in one night before. Stop it.

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We have. Well, we are not doing it now. Are we? Did we change clothes?

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I did not.

SPEAKER_01

You didn't change clothes? I changed clothes. Okay, we're not the same night. You didn't change clothes? That's yeah, I'll deal with that later. Oh well sometimes.

SPEAKER_06

I didn't say I didn't wash them. So I washed my clothes, but they're still the same clothes.

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Are they really?

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Yeah. Oh.

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Why go through all that hassle? Just passing or not buying the colours. Just go to Coles.

SPEAKER_01

Just go to Kohl's. What was it? I think it was an episode of Seinfeld, and Jerry was talking about how like he never wears underwear twice. He's on this, he just buys brand new underwear or socks or something like that. I'm like, that seems expensive. Have you priced socks lately? I mean, just good old-fashioned, basic Hanes white socks are like $97 for a four-pack. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Wow.

SPEAKER_01

It's insane. They've gotten expensive. So expensive. Undershirts?

SPEAKER_03

Come on. I quit wearing them. They're too expensive. I can barely wear overshirts. Especially in wintertime. Yeah. Jeez. Wintertime. Let me tell you what. Let me tell you what. I remember I remember winter. Winter was so long ago, wasn't it? It was. It's coming. It's almost here. It's almost here.

SPEAKER_01

It's almost here again. I tell you what, it's uh it was lovely today. I mean, by lovely, I mean it was gross and wet. This morning was, yeah. But uh it was comfortable outside. It was comfortable.

SPEAKER_06

It shaped up to be 66 and sunny out there.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I'm I almost wore shorts over here today. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, Jerry's giving a head nod for those.

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I opened my sunroof. Oh in the

Old Trucks, Jump Starts, And Clear Road Feel

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Superman car? There you go. It was it was comfortable.

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Yep. Yep.

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Oh, Eric opened his sunroof.

SPEAKER_06

I thought it was humid today.

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It was humid. I I closed it because I was like, it's a st I what I can't breathe.

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Yeah. Yeah. It was weird weather for February.

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My sinuses did that like, oh, ultra high humidity squish thing. So I was like, that's not gonna work. But uh I even got out and drove the azuzu around today. That was fun. Oh, nice. You know, some people go out and buy sports cars. I bought an azuzu. Did you have to jump it off? I did. But barely. Do you know what I mean by that? So like it's funny too. I watched the video because I'm like, how do you jump off an Azuzu? I don't mean like an Azuzu talent or eagle or whatever. You remember the old Azuzu carrooper? Azuzu Troopers or Rodeo. Right. Um this is the actual like uh 16-foot box truck, you know, the cab over?

SPEAKER_03

Uh call Joey Zuzu over?

SPEAKER_01

I called Joe Izuzu over. He wasn't available, but he sent his brother Joe Campbell. Okay. So that was kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_03

He's got nothing at all to do these days.

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No, well he know he, you know, him and Sally have been having some issues.

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Oh, that's too bad.

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Yeah, because uh Sally now has more humps than he does. So that's causing some some some tension. It's too bad. It is too bad. Great couple. They're a great couple. Great couple. Uh salt of the earth. Yeah. Um a little bit of lungs, you know, stuff, but yeah, but you know.

SPEAKER_06

So the Zuzu.

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So the Izuzu.

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Where are we going with Joe Camel and his wife?

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I don't know. I was trying to figure a way to put Camel toe in there somehow, but it didn't. Well, there you go. I couldn't figure it out.

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Mission accomplished.

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So uh I looked online, watched how to how to jump it off, and and there's nothing special. You just go straight to the battery. Okay. Uh but it uh it did the the guy hooks his jumper cables up and it's a little battery. It's the exact same battery jump start I have. Nice. So it's like, oh, that's cool. Literally the exact same one. And it he's like, oh, nine volts. Yep, she's definitely dead. And I hooked mine up, and it's like 11.7 volts. Because when I could go to turn it over, it would go like just not quite fast enough to turn over.

SPEAKER_03

It had enough though to go start the APU up and the APU would have started.

SPEAKER_01

However, I don't have an APU on this thing.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, why not? Uh I have no sleeper. Are you having one put on it? No. You should. Why? You should just so you'd have to go. APUs are nothing but so you don't have to walk 20 feet away and get the jump box and walk back 20 feet away.

SPEAKER_01

It wasn't even 20 feet. It actually was in the back of the grandwagon. Yeah. So I uh I jumped it off, and uh at first it wasn't jumping off, and I'm like, what is going on with this thing? And I went over to the jump box and it's clackity clack, click clackity, clickity, click, click, city, clack, clack, and I'm like, oh, this isn't good. This usually means like a short or something, right? Then I'm like, you know, it's a little bit of rust on the on the things. Let me just give them a good zzh. And then I went over there and you know what I mean? I'm like, all right, that's what it was. Um but uh yeah, I got a chance to drive that baby around. It's so unique. This is Zuzus, this is the one where like you sit directly over the steering and your legs are in front of it. So if you get in a wreck, your legs will be crushed into the tire. Yes, they will. Um but it it's a fun vehicle to drive.

SPEAKER_06

Like literally looking at the road.

SPEAKER_01

You're on it. You have all the visibility, right?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, all of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, pulling out of the driveway. So I I live on a four-lane, pretty major highway, and so people are going 55, 60 miles an hour right in front of my uh house all the time. So pulling out, like getting up right to like the edge of my driveway, you know, I'm my body is physically two and a half feet away from a car going 65 miles an hour down the road. It's a little exhilarating because normally I've got you know a hood uh keeping me from s having that. But um, yeah, no, it was great. And just uh remembering how to drive it, could try to go put the cruise control on, tried that 17 times before I figured out oh, you gotta go to set, not resume.

SPEAKER_08

The first time.

SPEAKER_01

The first time. Then it works fine. Yes. Um, but no, it was uh it was pretty cool. So I got that done. So that's now in its new uh parking space. Uh, but it just so pretty outside, but there's still so much snow.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, especially if it got piled.

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Yeah.

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It's the piles that are hanging out.

SPEAKER_02

It finally melted in our drive today where we pull out of the garage. So I was very thankful for that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

That was like two feet piles at well. When I was there the other day, there was still like two feet of snow.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it finally melted today, so I can pull out without having to do like a three-point around the snow piles. Yeah, because if I back usually I just back straight out and start turning, you know, and now I'm with uh snow lined up like that because they line it up in between the garages, so I couldn't. I'd have to go at an angle and then I go this way and back up, and otherwise I'd but you have such a large vehicle. Yeah.

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You know.

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Do we still have snow in our front yard? No, I didn't have that problem before to make a U-turn and come back.

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Like that much.

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Oh, that's right.

Ice Science, Flying In Icing, And Perfect Cubes

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Well, they snoop with our neighbors to use a snowblower on our yard, everything got blown into your under our side, the sidewalk was covered with the big pile of snow. And it's yesterday was the first time you can actually see the sidewalk. Yeah. Because I wasn't gonna go out there and shovel the sidewalk with a bunch of ice on it this way. Why not? Uh, because my I'm uh they say I'm too old to shovel snow. Oh. Yeah. Okay. So but it is.

SPEAKER_06

It's a matter of like two feet splots. Nobody was walking on our sidewalk anyway. It was gonna melt before you could you needed to shovel.

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Gotcha.

SPEAKER_06

Before the walkers got out there. Power walkers, which is now they're out or or the kids riding their bikes. Sure, we do get a couple of those.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. We uh I don't have sidewalks and again 60 mile an hour street, so we don't have anybody walking uh and there's no sidewalks to shovel, but we uh we had some very exciting uh trucks get stuck in our front yard. Yeah that was that was thrilling. Yeah. Um but uh oh so uh we went across uh Eric and I today we had to go to CubeSmart, our old location. Uh it's been a while, and when we got over there, or before we got over there, we had to cross um the river. So uh the Soyota River, uh in uh between like Dublin, Hilliard, Upper Arlington. I guess it's about it, right? That's it. Is is a lake. It's dammed up and there's a it's a big lake. It's beautiful. It's it's like I wanted to buy a house on that piece of property. I mean on that river, but you can't find it and exist uh without having too many commas in it. Um and uh so well we were driving and we ate across the bridge, and I'm like, oh my gosh, and Eric was driving, and he's like, What? I'm like, it's all iced over still. It is still we've had multiple 60 degree days, and it's still iced over. I'm like, that's crazy to me. No, I wouldn't go walking on it.

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No, but we had no skating, maybe three three good weeks, four weeks of the single digit less than digits.

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Yeah, the minuses even.

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But but before that we just had cold. I would say the teens. So I'd I'd say it's been frozen for at least a good month and a half.

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Yeah.

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Would you agree?

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Yeah.

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So I could see that taking its sweet time.

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Even there's two retaining ponds by us at the new yard, and they're still frozen. They're smaller and they're still frozen. Oh really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

The church between us, our house, and your house, their little pond is still frozen too. Wow.

SPEAKER_03

I guess I need to look around more. Melissa's heart is still frozen. I thought it would thaw over the years what it has, and it's still frozen.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's because she used the clear. Uh she, you know, uh it was it was frozen very slowly to get all the air bubbles out. So it's it's pure. It's pure. It's pure, it's pure heart. You are pure of heart.

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That's that's correct. Um you remind me of the joke that they have to defrost Mariah Carey every Christmas and every freezer at the beginning of every year.

SPEAKER_06

That's funny. That's funny.

SPEAKER_01

So my thing is though, speaking of uh ice icy heart situation, uh Vince, you are the ice king. We we all know you as the ice king. You make clear ice, you have this whole thing going on, right? We've talked about the clear ice before. So if you're the ice king, does that make Melissa the Ice Queen?

SPEAKER_06

I like to utilize the ice. I don't know.

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Yes.

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Okay, fun fact. Fun fact the ice that he did on the back patio when it was super cold outside. When he trans he transfers them to gallum bags, none of them stuck together.

SPEAKER_01

Really?

SPEAKER_06

Which I thought was weird because when he does them in the fridge and he cracks them and breaks them and does whatever he does, and then he put, you know, puts them in the gallum bags. Yeah. Um, occasionally I would say it does six of them, and I would say at least four of them, that's in pairs too, always stick together. Yes. And you gotta like either quickly run it underwater if you're both having a cocktail and you each get a cube, or you have to root around a little longer and find one that's a solo foot and you're not having cocktails.

SPEAKER_03

Or you just whack the whole bag on the counter. I've done that.

SPEAKER_06

But I noticed though, and I made a comment to him the other night, I'm like, I find it pretty cool, fascinating, scientific. I don't know, that the ice you did outside, none of it has stuck together. Not even one.

SPEAKER_01

That's interesting.

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I know.

SPEAKER_01

I wonder if it has to do with like how cold it was when it went in the bag, that it never melted any. So like when I'm when you're doing this, because it was super cold. It was super cold. So when we're flying, the one thing I learned about, because you you have to learn about ice, right? So I'm I'm learning how to fly in the clouds. So if you're learning to fly in the clouds, you go to ice is a concern, right? Sure. Cold temperatures, moisture, ice. Uh plane crash, everyone dies. It's not good. So um there's de-icing stuff on the plane uh to to get rid of the ice and even to prevent it. Um but uh there is a point where um like icing's only a concern certain uh a certain range above the ground. Now that depends on atmospheric conditions what that range is. Um but in icing, once you get past a certain point, the concern is no longer there because it's too cold. The ice can't stick to your plane.

SPEAKER_05

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

So I wonder if it's something similar to that of like you took it outside, you put it in the bag, and in the fridge or freezer in a short enough time period, it never warmed up to a point where it could then stick.

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Yeah, maybe.

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Could be it.

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Which

Movies We Loved, Then Didn’t, And Renfield’s Gore

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which even like Vince said though, he thought it was kind of unique that it was still water in part of the non-usable where you're not using it. The runoff, I don't know what you want to call it in your little.

SPEAKER_03

I wonder if the ice insulated it as well, as well as the cooler side. Yeah. Well, you think about it.

SPEAKER_06

It was a really cool science experiment. Yeah, I'm glad that he did it.

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Think about a river, the top of the river, or the lake is frozen, but the bottom doesn't freeze because you do get that insulative. I saw was it in uh Florida in California when it's uh having a hard freeze, they will intentionally spray oranges down with water to put a uh a layer of ice around them to insulate them from dying. Huh. Yeah. So there's uh the more you know, the more you know Did you just do the rainbow?

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I love it.

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The star with the the uh uh tail. Tail.

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Yeah.

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Oh, we're all children of the 80s.

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Well I was G.I. Joe when I was growing up.

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I. Joe? With uh Will Smith's wife, Jada Pinkett?

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No. No, the cartoon.

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That was not Jada Pinkett, by the way. Oh, G.I. Joe or G.I. Jane?

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Jane was Demi Morgan.

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Well, was she? It was Demi Morrison. I'm so confused.

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But G.I. Joe was knowing is half the battle. Yes. That was way before More You Known.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm more uh go go Power Rangers. Go you. Uh it's Change Mutant Ninja Turtles for you that it's more fun. I just watched that the other day. The movie?

SPEAKER_02

The original?

SPEAKER_01

The original because the original movie or the cartoon? The original movie because it's unwatchable.

SPEAKER_02

You liked it? I love it because it was one of my favorites as a kid, and Don never seen it. And so I forced him to watch it the other day, and I was I'd laughed the whole time because he was just literally sitting there just shaking his head and rolling his eyes.

SPEAKER_08

They're so cheesy when you go back and watch them.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh, I loved it as a kid. That one and they they made a second one too, right? So there's two of them. And her food truck or whatever she had. No, I I loved them. I thought they were great. I have since gone back and tried to re-watch it, and I'm like, I I can't watch this. Like I was listening to someone one time, they're talking about how sometimes the memory of the movie is what you need to hold on to and not the actual movie. That's one of them. I I just needed to like, oh yeah, it's a great classic movie and never see it again.

SPEAKER_02

When you're sitting there watching it and your significant other turns around and looks at you because you're mouthing the words to Ninja Turtles.

SPEAKER_01

No, I got yelled at for that. I got yelled at for that.

SPEAKER_06

I felt that way when we did um Maximum Overdrive.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_06

I had talked it up, and it was a great movie and watched it, and I may or may not have fallen asleep on it, and Vince ended up watching all of it.

SPEAKER_01

I was forced to watch it. Just so we could I love that you're the one that fell asleep on that one. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_06

Uh it was it was lame. It was cheesy and beyond cheesy, and I'm like, oh, but during the during its when it came out, it was like scary and all the machines are coming to life, and uh the big green tractor, and uh my gosh, it was just really cool.

SPEAKER_01

But now it's like can I tell you a movie I just watched that I'm gonna say I think is great? I I think great.

SPEAKER_06

Did you do Lonesome Dev all six hours?

SPEAKER_01

I have not, not yet. Uh not yet, but I'm working on it. Uh by that I mean eventually. The um if if it's not great, whatever the one like fraction of a step down from great is, that's what this movie is. And Rinfield.

SPEAKER_06

Can you push the cricket button, please? That is.

SPEAKER_05

I've heard of it.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so imagine this. Imagine this. You've got uh the guy from X-Men. What's his name? Which one? The the main professor, Xavier.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, the guy that played the card?

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No.

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No.

SPEAKER_01

The other one. Younger Younger Prof younger Professor X. I've never watched it. It was uh oh uh Holt John James Holt Holt Holt he's uh his breath Nicholas Holt Nicholas Cage or Nicholas Holt Nicholas Cage Nicolas Cage and Aquafina, so Nicholas Cage is Dracula and Nicholas Holt is his familiar.

SPEAKER_08

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And he's having like an existential crisis, and he's wanting to be his own person, and of course you can imagine Dracula's not having it, and Nicolas Cage is Dracula. Nicholas Cage is you know the most ridiculous person in the world playing Dracula. Is it a comedy? Uh yeah, it's got it. It's horror action comedy. Gory. Gory.

SPEAKER_03

It does say dark comedy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, there's one point where they uh he uses a serving platter to chop off a guy's arms.

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Okay.

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As one does.

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Yeah.

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Uh but it takes place in New Orleans, so of course, you know, that meant a lot to me. Sure.

SPEAKER_06

One of mom's So was this a go-to movie for you back in the day? No, I just saw it for the first time ever.

SPEAKER_01

Is it 2023? Yeah. Oh, I didn't realize it was that new. Yeah. Um I we just watched it. I thought it was great.

SPEAKER_06

I have not seen it.

SPEAKER_01

I thought it was awesome. If you do not like Blood, do not watch this movie. It is gory as all get out, but it's hysterical. And it's it's funny, gory. It's ridiculous. It's over the top, ridiculous. And uh so it took place in New Orleans, they filmed at New Orleans, takes place in New Orleans. One of my mom's favorite restaurants when we would go to New Orleans was Mu Lots. And there's a huge scene that's filmed in that restaurant.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01

And I'm like, oh, this is so cool.

SPEAKER_06

And um, I've sat in that booth right there before.

SPEAKER_01

I literally had to get pictures and show Eric because he's like, I don't remember being there, and I'm like, before the Elton John concert, we were sitting right here. It was like um no, it was it was that was a lot of fun watching. Eric was talking about as we're watching it too. He's like, all these little locations around the city, he's like, I know all these places. He's like, Don't you know this hotel? And I'm like, no, it's a CD hotel for a horror movie. There's a thousand of them. Like, I don't know what hotel this is, but there's a thousand of them in New Orleans. So I'm sure it's one of them. Yeah. Well, oh, that'd be funny if it's the um it's the uh uh uh Jimmy Swaggard hotel.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, that's funny.

SPEAKER_01

But it's just it's absolutely ridiculous. Uh it was on Peacock. So if you have Peacock, um it's uh it was a hoot. It was it it was a short movie, too. I want to say hour and a half, it wasn't long. Oh, in and out in and out. It was a lot of fun, it was a lot of laughter. It is ridiculous. It's almost dumb and dumber-esque type stupidity,

Streaming Recaps, Franchises, And Crossovers

SPEAKER_01

which I love.

SPEAKER_06

So um wasn't like shock and scary though, because when you put the word horror in there, like I don't I don't want someone to pop out from behind the closet and scare me on the screen.

SPEAKER_01

I agree, I'm not a horror person.

SPEAKER_06

You can ask Eric like he was that that makes my adrenaline go wonky and it I can't.

SPEAKER_01

I don't like it. I tell people I I have a I have enough uh stress in my life, I don't need a gram more. So it wasn't like that. No. I mean, Eric, from like the opening scene, they make it pretty obvious what you're about to watch, right? Yeah, it's more comedy. It's more comedy.

SPEAKER_08

It's probably just horror for the blood part. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Because it's more than a lot of people.

SPEAKER_06

It can't be any worse than John Wick, can it?

SPEAKER_01

It's more comical.

SPEAKER_06

More comical than John Wick.

SPEAKER_01

John Wick didn't have any. I'm pretty sure I'm fairly confident the first main scene has more blood and gore in it than the entire T of all the John Wick movies.

SPEAKER_06

Wow.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

That was great. Good to know. All right, everybody. Uh report back on Renfield, and if you watched it.

SPEAKER_01

I will say this. Someone's arms get removed.

SPEAKER_06

You said that on a platter.

SPEAKER_01

This this is a different style. Oh, another time. Another time. And then they use the two arms to uh that are thrown and they impale two other people. So um with the arms? With the arms.

SPEAKER_06

They become leapers. Alright, I'll give much more away about.

SPEAKER_01

This movie, people are gonna want to watch it or not watch it, or not want to watch it.

SPEAKER_06

Maybe they'll just watch the trailer of it and they'll be like, I'm good.

SPEAKER_01

Don't watch the trailer, the trailer gives away the whole movie.

SPEAKER_08

See? Don't watch the trailer. Oh, you can watch it. The best parts are in the trailer. Yeah, no, that's not great.

SPEAKER_01

It's not the necessarily the best parts. It's just I don't know, it's a fun, it's a fun ride.

SPEAKER_06

We watched something the other day, and it was all of like we watched a season of something, and then season two came out, and we're so excited to go watch it. And of course they do the recap, and I'm like, oh, it's been a little while, let's watch the recap. They did the recap, and I'm like, well, shoot, we could have just watched the recap, not all eight hours of a season, and uh, I would have been good, I would have got the gist of things, and we could have just jumped into season two. Like they gave the the trade the trailer of recap was so long.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like they used to have to do that because back when it was network TV, a rerun wouldn't necessarily happen for years. Sure. So I get why they had to do that. I don't know why they do it now. I mean, I appreciate it because there are times if you're watching a Taylor Sheridan.

SPEAKER_06

I'm just about to say a Yellowstone years between episodes. I definitely need a rerun.

SPEAKER_01

And you're like, and you're like, you're like Wait, Kevin Kevin Costner's in this? What? Like, you're like, I don't even remember him being a character. Yeah. You ever see that? So Disney, Disney's by far the worst offender. Do you agree, Jerry? So Disney will intertwine not just seasons, but series.

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Is that a word? Series.

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Series is series.

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Everybody's phone's lighting up.

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Hey series, is so uh I watched uh The Mandalorian and some of the other Star Wars movies. Not movies, uh television shows. Series. Series. And there were uh references in TV shows to other TV shows.

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Interesting.

SPEAKER_01

So if you didn't watch, like if you're in the middle of Andor but you didn't watch season three of The Mandalorian, you didn't know what's going on. And I'm like, what why are they why are they doing this? Right. This is crazy.

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Well, network TVs have done crossovers before. Well, they'll do like somebody from this show will go and like a lot of the NCIS and CS have you have to watch the other two if you're Frasier and Cheers Well, they they they were off each other, but yeah.

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We've watched uh like NCIS Origins and then NCIS well the OG NCIS and they did a crossover recently of the one but the storyline So Origins is is goes way back into the s 70s, maybe the Origin 80s?

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I don't know.

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So back when Gibbs was young, newbie, proby. But they started working a case, but the case never got solved, and then it went into today's time, which is the new NCIS. So you had to watch one to watch the other to gather the story. So they do they do that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01

Is NCIS the one that has uh Butterfingers?

SPEAKER_03

Nope, nope, he's no longer New Orleans. Okay, but that show is no longer on the air.

SPEAKER_06

That was with Scott Bacchula and that they took also Triple Play.

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Yes, and they took and they took that production crew and they made Renfield.

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Okay.

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One of the ladies off that is now on Mayor of Kingstown, but anyway.

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I haven't called up to Mayor of Kingtown yet.

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That's all right.

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Yeah.

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Speaking of Taylor, he's got two coming out in March. Are you prepared? You have to get through Landman and Mayor.

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How am I supposed to get through Landman and we just started a new series?

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No comment. And he's tell us to get through Lonesome Dove.

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And Lonesome Dove. I you know, I'm I think I'm We need you to give up departments.

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Lonesome Dove after Landman. You've waited this long for

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Lonesome Dove.

SPEAKER_01

Is Lonesome Dumb even that good?

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It it is. It's good. If you like that kind of thing.

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I don't.

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Well then don't watch it.

SPEAKER_01

What kind of thing is it? I know nothing about it. Nope.

SPEAKER_06

I like Westerns, though.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. He likes spaghetti westerns. This is more of a Panay Western.

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I'm actually more of a fan of uh lasagna.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I see. You like it layered? I do. I like the kind of westerns that have dodge ram, pickup trucks, helicopters, and uh ATVs.

SPEAKER_06

That's more my type of Marshalls coming out in March.

SPEAKER_01

Marshalls?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Like U.S. Marshalls with Tommy Lee Jones. With Casey. The youngest of the uh Casey family. Yes. Yep comes up March.

SPEAKER_01

Well, we'll be watching that.

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No, you won't. You have to watch Landman first. I'm sharing with you the order that you need to watch.

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Are they gonna reference Landman?

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They might.

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They might. You never know. That would he is, he's got uh such a wide swath of shows. He could start. He could start.

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Or just wait another year and then you can binge all of it.

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna say all of us all of a sudden uh on spaghetti western right. All of a sudden in Tulsa you see um uh um um uh oh what's his name? No, the other one.

SPEAKER_06

We haven't seen Stone Kevin Costner?

SPEAKER_01

No, the other one.

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No, um the guy's oh what is Kevin Costner?

SPEAKER_06

I didn't Well he he's dead.

SPEAKER_01

No, that's what I'm saying. All of a sudden Spoiler Spoiler alert! Spoiler alert if you've not watched Yellowstone. If you're not called up, but all of a sudden you see Kevin Costner walk through Tulsa King and it's like wait a second, he's like, shh, don't tell anyone. How great would that be?

SPEAKER_08

How great would that be that he's actually alive still?

SPEAKER_03

Yes. Well, he could he could be dead and be a different character and listen once. Why'd you say don't make it a different character?

SPEAKER_01

Same character, same or make him a land, a cattle rancher, landman from Montana, different name. And then everyone's like, I wonder. Yeah. I wonder.

SPEAKER_06

You gotta watch landman witness. Well, speaking of land, your U.S. manufacturing pipeline grows. Firms plan one billion in new factories. Yes. That just sounds like land. To mean land, a pipeline. It's gotta go somewhere across land.

SPEAKER_01

Well, so it's not literally a pipeline.

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Oh.

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It's a metaphorical pipeline.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, I misread it wrong.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, they're not actually laying a pipe. Uh although that would be cool. Again, I don't understand why we can't lay like we have so much pipe running across this country. We pump gas and oil and all this stuff all over the place. Yeah. Why do we not have a pipeline going from uh Oregon, where y'all have more water than you know what to do with, yeah, down to California who ain't got none.

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I don't know. At some point, Oregon's hurting right now, though.

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Just your section.

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They did get snow this last yesterday.

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They did?

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Yeah.

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First time this year, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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We had uh no kidding, uh we had uh your family in town recently, and they're all from uh Oregon uh off the trail. And um it's a very mountainous ski resort kind of like place. It's really nice, great wine, all the stuff. And uh they left there and it was like 72 degrees. Yep. And they came to Ohio and it was 10.

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It was cold.

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And they were like, holy cow, and it was like white out snow here, and they're like, we haven't had snow yet. And by now, or by then, they should have had feet of snow.

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They got it last night.

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Is it feet or just inches?

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I don't know. I didn't do my research.

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Mountains or valley?

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Valley.

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Oh, wow. That's a lot of snow.

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Yep.

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Okay. Well, good.

SPEAKER_06

But back to our pipeline.

SPEAKER_01

So, yes, so uh the uh no, the the I sent this article to y'all because um it's they're talking about how it's from Freight Waves, and they're talking about the uh facilities and factories that are starting to open up over the next couple years. So uh we talked about this uh probably a year ago when the tariffs and everything started coming out of how um it's what are these manufacturers gonna do? That was the big question, right? Because you had some manufacturers who said we're gonna get hit with tariffs, but we're not changing anything we're gonna do. We're gonna raise our prices to our consumers, or we're gonna eat it, or a mixture of both, right? But we're not going to do anything. We had other uh companies saying, All right, well, you want us to build an America and you're gonna penalize us so hard that it makes sense to, we're gonna start doing that. Problem with that is it just takes so long to do, right? It's not something you just overnight be like, all right, well, we're gonna start building Kiyas in Alabama. Right. That takes years to happen. So um we're a year into it now, and uh it's just a kind of an update of like what's happening. And so uh they kind of talk about these companies that are um building these large-scale plants to uh move production back to America, uh, or uh just expanding what they're already doing in America.

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Well, it's also foreign companies that are actually building factories in America as well. It is, you're absolutely correct. There's a Japanese company, there's an Italian company, uh there's a few different um There's that Spanish company, Juan Deere.

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Yeah.

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You know what's funny about John Deere? Vince and I ran a load for them,

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I think, before. But and I thought their facility was rather grand at the time. I want to say it was maybe even in North Carolina. Like do you do just more there?

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Are you adding additions on to your current this is like Indiana that they're gonna start in North Carolina?

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So Yeah, so I mean what they they tell you here, um Indiana's gonna they're opening a distribution center. And in North Carolina, uh it's gonna be production of their next generation excavators that were previously manufactured in Japan. So it looks like they're bringing a different type of machine to North Carolina to build here in the United States versus having it built in Japan. Absolutely.

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And it makes sense. If you look at these companies like John Deere, well, you know, I made a joke about him being Spanish, but like they're John Deere Green, like they're just they're a tried and true American company, yada yada yada. Well, if you really look at them, they're a multinational, gigantic behemoth of a company. Right, like they make um diesel engines for ships that's not even under the John Deere brand. Right. Like they're massive.

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Um so uh and if you think about it also, they're not just building equipment for the US market, right? They're building equipment for the world. Yeah, you know, they're they're so they they might still produce excuse me, these excavators in Japan that aren't coming to the United States, but they're going elsewhere in the world, and because it makes sense logistically to ship from Japan to South Korea versus North Carolina to South Korea. Um but the idea is also that this the this is part of their broader commitment to invest 20 billion dollars in US manufacturing over the next decade. So they're committing a lot of money. Now I'm sorry I'm a little jaded. We'll see if it actually happens. Um because we have seen a lot of different plants that are announced, and they have these big press um events, and people get their pictures all over the place, and they don't come to fruition.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, you're you're correct. That's why um I am anxious to see what happens with all this. I'm encouraged by it. Sure. Because it always is nice to see this these things happen. Certainly. I see something like this where uh we're taking a um you know production that was originally done in Japan and bringing it here to uh America. My guess is that uh John Deere saw a company in Japan that was making an excavator that was superior and just bought the company.

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I see.

SPEAKER_01

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And so all of a sudden, then if you've bought the company and you're making them there in Japan, just ship them to America. It's easy, right? And then now that they've got all these other pressures, political or uh uh um economy driven or what have you, or maybe even just quantity, maybe they're like, hey, you know what? The world or the US market, or I'm not even gonna say the US market, I'm gonna say the America's market, right? Because stuff that's made in America is shipped to Latin America and South America as well. Sure. Or Canada. Absolutely, yep. You throw it on, throw an excavator on a train and ship it all the way to Buenos Aires if you wanted. Um, so they they may have a product that, like, hey, this is selling so well. Uh uh having a line here in America makes sense. Yeah. Airbus did that. So Airbus, same similar deal with A320s and uh and uh the A220s, of they got hit with tariffs to bring the airplane to America, so they built a uh line in um Mobile and they started making them in America and they don't get hit with those tariffs. And this was years ago. This is not like a new thing. Um and that was so successful, and they see so much value out of it, they actually built a second line right next to it. Wow. And so basically, if you are in the Americas, so we're talking, you know, Chile, Buenos Aires, all the way to Canada, and you buy an Airbus, you're probably getting one made in America. You're they're probably not selling you one made in Europe.

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In the USA.

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In the USA. Correct. You're probably not getting one that's made in Toulouse uh France. So um I could certainly see John Deere, especially with the housing crisis and with um really, I mean, if we look at Latin America and we look at South America growing, developing very fast countries, um, I could certainly see them having a case where not only is it good for the US people, but it's good for business to make that stuff here.

SPEAKER_06

Sure. I like that it's gonna be 300 jobs between Indiana and North Carolina. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01

And it is interesting, you think about like they're gonna be building excavators and it provides 150 jobs. It doesn't seem like a lot, right?

SPEAKER_08

But I was just thinking then like 150 people for a plant, 200 for another one. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Uh but it's automation. Automation has taken over so much, and if they're building a brand new plant, it's gonna have the maximum level of automation you can get, right? They're not building a plant that would rival Pontiac 1964.

SPEAKER_06

What were the other companies? Just uh you said mentioned overseas were coming in.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, that was one from Japan. You've also got uh a company out of Washington that does uh radars. Um they're doing um forty million dollars out of Washington. Um that's aerospace, that makes sense. Boeing is there and they you know they do all kinds of stuff.

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There's a Japanese plastics manufacturer building a plant in San Antonio. Which when I read through this, they actually build uh or produce plastic injection molding pellets. Oh, cool. That's what the company does. Yeah. Melissa and I had a delivery one time of plastic injustice injection molding pellets that went into another plant in San Antonio.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, really? Yeah. Isn't it crazy to think

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about like we know what injection molding is, I don't know if you don't uh they heat plastic up and they shoot it into a mold and boom, you've got your plastic hands cool down in the 3D molding kind of sort of exactly. Yeah. So uh but those the plastic pellets have to be made. They'll be made somewhere. Somewhere, you know. Um the there's another one, uh presable USA, I think is how it is. Um I don't have to be. I was like they they manufacture precision pre precision balls.

SPEAKER_06

Is that the same thing?

SPEAKER_01

No. These are little round metal balls made for like ball bearings and pumps and valves and those kind of things. And it's like you think about it, these things they uh they gotta be perfect. They make the world go round, they make the world go round. You think about like um ball bearings on a car or something, you've got thousands of pounds of pressure being put on that one ball at the bottom, or at the top, rather. Yeah. Every time the wheel spins around. Like these things have to be perfect. And so they're building one in Georgia for that. Um Rockwell Automations building a factory in Wisconsin, Wisconsin, uh, factory of the future. I don't like seeing the factory of the future. That does make me nervous because what's the factory of the future? More automation, sure. Build more things, less people.

SPEAKER_08

Um but they don't say in there it's how many people they're planning to employ at all, do they?

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No. Nope, nope, nope. Um SCL Lab, so uh they're building an electric device manufacturing facility in Moscow. When I first saw that, I'm like, how does that affect us?

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Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

And then I realized, no, that's Idaho. Uh so uh uh Zucchini Brad, tell us about Moscow. You're our resident Idaho expert.

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No.

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No.

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I'm not from Idaho. I thought he was it's an I, but not begins with an I and it ends with an A.

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Oh, you're Iowa! Oh yeah. I was confused. Sorry. Oh, these are the potato people. Kayla's Idaho. Oh, she is Idaho. Can we get her on the phone?

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Yeah.

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Can we get her on the phone?

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Ring ring. Ring ring.

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Ring ring. Can you talk about SEO and Vest?

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But that's gonna be a thousand people. Like that's you know, big plant. That's a lot big plant. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_06

So that's what are they making?

SPEAKER_01

Uh electronics. They don't really get in real specific of what it is, but not until 2027.

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So, you know. That's a good point. It's not even the year.

SPEAKER_03

If you think about though, yes, the the factory went so up and running, 150 workers. What about the construction workers, the engineers? The property taxes are being paid. The supporting companies. There's a lot of support there.

SPEAKER_01

So if your restaurants that are feeding those workers that are coming in to build it, how it sells. Again, so you you build a factory. Yeah, and you build a company uh that's gonna have 150 people. Well, there's uh plumbers and electricians that have to support that company that are not gonna be on staff.

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Right.

SPEAKER_01

So those companies have to hire more people, the landscapers have to be there. Sure. Your um your in, you know, if you're doing injection molding uh with plastics, your plastics recycling people have to be because a lot of stuff is not new material. A lot of it nowadays is um recycled material. Right. So go ahead, I'm sorry. Well, there are other uh things like okay, so Marysville has the Honda plant, right? We go up there, huge Honda plant. If you haven't been there, it's massive. And it's it's like legit. They have the uh Honda motorcycle plant, they have the Honda off-road vehicle plant, they have I think they build like Accords, they build um MDXs and all that stuff, uh, or are not MDX pilots and such. Is your is your car made there?

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It is. I was gonna say, whenever I bought it, it had the proud, proudly built in Columbus, Ohio.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, love it. So I mean that, but they also have Acura's Motorsport Division, which builds the um the uh Acura NSX. Okay, and we're talking about a hand-built car. Yeah, like everything on it is hand-built, so that it's massive, but you can't really see it. It's hidden behind a grassy berm. Oh, yeah. You can't see that we know, but it's right there. What do you see? You see a hundred businesses that support that factory.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You see tons of warehousing, you see tons of parts manufacturers, you see all these things to support that one location. So Honda says we've got however many thousand employees, but what you don't see is the other thousands of employees that support that plant.

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Including the truck drivers that are delivering parts and picking up parts and taking that stuff elsewhere. Uh Melissa and I had a load in three years. That went

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to Honda. We did from Calexico.

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I think it was. Um, but they were waiting on us.

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They were waiting on us. I mean, we got they they actually had Honda employees at the distribution center. It wasn't a Honda facility. Oh yeah. But they were it was so hot that they were there to inspect it, and they're wearing their white Honda employees in the factory wear all white. Yeah. All white.

SPEAKER_01

That's hard. That's hard as a pack car for the bigger.

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And they told us they they were they told us that this has to be there no later than X time on whatever day. And Melissa and I are like, Yeah, no problem. Yeah. And we got it there. Know a day early. Yeah. But they were they were literally waiting for this. When we got there, it was like, Oh yeah, you need to go to door or whatever. It wasn't go here, check in here, and they'll tell you where to go while you wait. No. The security guard was like, Oh, yes, you you go to door whatever right now, they'll get you a load. I'll I'll call them. So when I'm we can you these these places are huge. They are so as we get to do. 200 doors download on. Yeah. We get to the building and I'm going to back in, the doors are open. They're waiting for me to back in to take this stuff off our truck to go straight to the line. So you know, but again, you have all these different businesses, like you said, yeah. And where this comes back to us is truck drivers are delivering parts, any materials to the plant, and then taking finished goods out to the end customer, the end using the other. Especially on the manufacturing side. Sure.

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Especially on the manufacturing side. But do you think you know you're saying those people on the other side, and and I I gotta tell you, until this moment, this moment right here in time, I didn't really think about how those kind of companies really impact a community. But you're talking housing. You're talking about that realtor selling the housing. Somebody's coming to here because maybe the a relative works for them already and now they're coming. So now you're buying a house, or you're buying your cars from a local out there in Maryensville, or you know, you're supporting all that local not deep into Columbus. Marionsville's a good twenty miles away from us. Sure. They've got their own community. Um and and that just I don't know. I think that's pretty exciting. Yeah. That these kind of companies in this article are gonna be bringing that into their community.

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And it starts well before the plants even made, like like everybody was talking about, you know, the hotels that are stayed and who's building it, and the electricians and plumbers and absolutely and and I know just like Eric and I when we were driving, we brought shelving to brand new Dollar Generals. We brought, you know, things to construction sites, doors. I remember going to a school that was being built, we brought doors. Like that kind of stuff propels America and it propels trucking, and that's what we do is trucking. So, you know, that's what we care probably most about. Uh but um and then the and then once they get the final product, that then has to be shipped. Sure. Right? And you're right, a lot of these companies, even though they're building uh assembly plants, manufacturing facilities here in America, they're still using international parks. Certainly. And a lot of that stuff's coming across the border in California. Not California, in uh well, California or Texas, Texas, Arizona, that's at Mexico border. We still do a lot of hauling out of out of those places. Laredo is probably one of our top five locations we go to.

SPEAKER_06

Um and that's bringing across bordering cities.

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Absolutely, and it's bringing those parts and pieces into our country so that we can then manufacture the final product. Um, and uh so it's it's encouraging, it's exciting to see that this is actually happening. Um in and and our fear is of, well, they're just gonna wait out the administration. Again, some companies are absolutely doing that, but by and large, there's a lot of them that are that are not. There's a lot of them that are actually bringing their uh bringing their investments back into the country.

SPEAKER_06

This is just a fraction of probably who's doing whatever, right? Absolutely, yeah. I mean, they maybe pick the top ten, eight, however many we have.

SPEAKER_01

This is what's happening recently or soon. So like I know Azuzu's building a big talk about Zuzu, they're building a big factory here in America, but it's not going to come online until 2028. So their article's not really focused on that. Sure. Um, so you do have quite a bit of that stuff that's happening as well. There's like Ford and GM and and Chrysler have all made commitments to build more in America than they do across uh the border into Canada or Mexico. Um so yeah, it's it's certainly interesting to see what's happening.

SPEAKER_06

We joke about 2027. Sounds like such a far number away, but I'm sure all of you can relate that months and days and years just tick by quickly. I mean, we're almost we're almost halfway through February, which is almost what, Q3?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Uh way part of Q1.

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So I mean we're almost done with Q3.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and when y'all listen to this, it'll be March. Right.

SPEAKER_06

So like 2027 really isn't that far away. So no.

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2025 went by in a in a flash.

SPEAKER_06

Well, I just it's life.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. Well, I mean, you know, we talked about I think I'm trying to remember because it was a couple weeks ago we talked about it, but I think on the last episode we talked about how like COVID, I keep saying was a couple years ago.

SPEAKER_06

Many more.

SPEAKER_01

Five and a half years ago now. It's COVID 19. It actually I remember it it actually happened in 2019 is when we started seeing the news about it. It didn't really hit America until February of 2020. Well that's at this point, six years ago.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

You know, I know the the shutdown lasted for quite a bit longer than that.

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But I know for us it was a Friday the 13th that they told us do not come to work. We're closed down. It was like, oh what a great day.

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I know.

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I remember people being ours was the weekend after we played in Mardi Gras.

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Yeah.

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For for Mardi Gras.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, because we were we were down, we were in Buenos Aires, uh not right in uh Rio de Janeiro for uh Carnaval. And we did the whole big huge Carnaval thing. Oh, you were there for that, weren't you? Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_06

We did the whole big Mardi Gras thing. And like the next weekend it was stay late. Don't go anywhere. Stay away from people. And we're like uh too late.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. I remember that.

SPEAKER_08

We were all in my pod. It's okay.

SPEAKER_01

I know, right? It was for me, it was like sitting on the beach in Uruguay. Uruguay's beautiful, it really is. So we're sitting on the beach in Uruguay with Jerry and Don and Eric and everybody, and just talking about oh wow, so this COVID-19 thing. No, it's coronavirus.

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I think we're calling it coronavirus. I don't know what we're calling it back then. It was both. It was both. Yeah. It just went through uh they just had a case of it go through Hartzel Jackson, which is the airport we were flying into. And and then and the thought of like, huh, that's interesting. It was like no big deal. And then we just moved right along, right? Like Cumbering you, please.

SPEAKER_06

So by the time you left, did you have to take different protocol to come back in?

SPEAKER_01

No. No, we got back in we got back in the country. Probably like two or three days later. It was right at the Yes.

SPEAKER_06

Before they started these things wonky.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah. I mean like barely got back into the country.

SPEAKER_06

Got it. Wow. Wow.

SPEAKER_01

As a matter of fact, so we the way we did that trip was on a cruise. And the very next cruise was going uh down the horn of uh South America and then over to Chile and then up to um Lima or I think maybe Lima. And we actually talked joked about like it's a two-week cruise, let's just take two more weeks and do this, right? And we didn't, but we joked about it. That cruise didn't get off at any port at all.

SPEAKER_04

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And they sailed all the way up to uh San Diego and got unloaded in San Diego, and the passengers on that cruise were on the ship for like three and a half weeks, and the crew was on that ship for months before they were able to get them off the ship.

SPEAKER_06

Wow.

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We barely missed it.

SPEAKER_06

They probably were the healthiest people, though.

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Of course they were.

SPEAKER_06

They weren't they weren't ruining anybody.

SPEAKER_01

I know. I know. That's like you know, flying back. We we had no concerns because we were all fine. We were this was China's issue. I mean, literally, it wasn't it wasn't hardly into America at all yet.

SPEAKER_06

So that makes sense. I'm excited about your uh pipeline that isn't a pipeline.

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A pipeline of manufacturing. Yes. Yeah, I am too. I I can't wait to see more of this happen. I am curious, you know, a few a couple years ago, I remember we talked about outside of Monterey, they were building this humongous um region of manufacturing, and it was mostly Chinese companies that were building and and start bringing stuff into America that way. I I'm really curious, I don't hear anybody talking about it anymore. And my question, my my cons thought, curiosity is is it because it's considered Mexican manufacturing and so they don't care? Or have the Chinese companies stop their investment uh into that region? I'm very curious. I I it'd be something it's something I really want to like find some information on. I just don't even know where to look for that. Because it was a hot topic for a couple years, and then all of a sudden it has been a have you heard anything about it in forever? Nothing at all.

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SAI.

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ChatGPT. ChatGPT Chat GPT ends up referencing our episode on it from 2023. That would be funny. I be I don't uh so I don't know how much you y'all use ChatGPT, but have y'all had this happen yet where you do a little research and you're like you read a couple articles and you're like, well, that's not really helping me. You go to ChatGPT and then it references the articles you've already read.

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Yes.

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I've had that happen a couple times now, and I'm like, no, that's frustrating. You're supposed to dig deeper, but it doesn't. You know, the other thing I was uh noticing uh was uh it came across my feed the other day and I thought it was funny because I already thought it was what it was, but it wasn't. Oh uh Chicago has stolen the crown for the worst freight bottleneck.

SPEAKER_06

No bleep. Really?

SPEAKER_01

I know. I thought I thought it already was. It's the uh 294 I-294 at the 290 I-88 interchange in western uh suburbs of Chicago. And if you know that area, you go right past the um the um uh what are they called? Their giant hole in the rock quarry. The rock quarry. Yes. And then you go a little further and it's right there. I know. It's so blue.

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It's weird.

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Bada B. You know what that turned that rock quarry into, don't you? No. They're turning that into a uh floodwater wastewater management. Okay. So right now, when it rains in Chicago and the wastewater or the rainwater overflows the wastewater, it goes into the sewer. Yeah.

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Now it's gonna go into the pit.

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And then all the sewer goes into the rivers untreated.

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Oh. Well, it happens all over the world.

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Yeah.

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So it's gonna go into this pit untreated.

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So now they're gonna take that rainwater and they're piping it into the pit so it doesn't overflow the sewer system.

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Oh, it's just gonna be some water.

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So I know.

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But uh I think it should also be like most conversations on a CB radio ever intersection.

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Oh, that's we had a we had a we had a team.

SPEAKER_06

I I think that's what it should read.

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We had a really bad incident when Eric and I had the company for only a couple of years. One of our teams uh was in that area, and uh Trivic came to a stop and he got hit rear-ended and knocked one of the drivers to the ground, broke his back. It was a big to-do. Um and he's fine. He lived, and and and uh he's now uh retired and having a great time, and um they were able to sue the pants off the truck that hit him, and everything was fine. But it was like, holy cow, like that was our eye-opening experience too, like you gotta be careful when you're out there, and Chicago's one place where you don't walk around your truck, you are not walk around your truck, he wouldn't, but you be sure you're buckled into your uh seat or you're buckled into your bed because it can be really, really dangerous area. Uh, but apparently it used to be, I want to say New Jersey, I think is what used to they used to have it as. Which I'm like, I get I get um okay, so it was uh I-95 at uh SR4 in Fort Lee, New Jersey. I don't know where that's at.

SPEAKER_06

I'm not Fed I feel like FedEx runs more up that way than we do.

SPEAKER_01

95 was just a uh just a a show regardless. Right.

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I'm surprised to me she did a can can, did she?

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Uh to me, the worst freight bottleneck to me is gonna be uh I know we joke about Atlanta and we joke about Baton Rouge and some of these other places.

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Katie, Texas.

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Uh I'm telling you right now, the Bronx uh expressway.

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Expui.

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That I I don't see how that doesn't win every year all the time, no matter what. Have you ever gone through there above idle?

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Idle.

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I'm serious though. I mean, like that that stretch, and it's not long, it's just a few miles, but it's an hour every single time.

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Do you know y'all did y'all do that much of a Panther? I know it's not really a big section for y'all, but I didn't, no.

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No.

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It's a cool drive. You drive under a skyscraper.

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We did like New Jersey, but we swung out, we swung out wide wide and we usually come across the GW.

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Oh, that's that's what this is. So it's GW. As soon as you cross from New Jersey into New York on the GW.

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Okay.

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That you're boom, you're on the Cross Bronx Expressway.

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Okay, so we've done that.

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Okay, and it's like a you know, it's a narrow cut.

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It is short ceilings.

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Short ceilings, uh, and they're mostly there. Sure. And then all of a sudden you're in a section where it's like 35 feet or 50 foot tall roof, you know. Uh that's when you're under the skyscraper. Oh. And people live above you.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, who knows?

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That's an apartment complex. Can you imagine your apartment complex is over I-95?

SPEAKER_06

That was kind of a janky. It was janky. However, I gotta tell you, the whole Chicago wrap around the lake in Gary, Indiana, up into Ohio, that whole where is it I-80, I-90, they combine it. They're copacetic for a while.

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Yeah, combine right there.

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That's a show.

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That's the show.

SPEAKER_06

Uh so for this to be the new one does not surprise me. But again, if you were to listen to your your CB radio, should you have one? Uh there's banter the entire duration of that.

SPEAKER_01

I never did that, but now I want to go jump on a truck and go banter. Did you do that, Jerry? You're old. I I hated the C V.

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Nobody ever did the speed limit.

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You couldn't. It was impossible.

SPEAKER_06

It was 55 though, or 65, or 60. It was very slow.

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Yeah.

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Low, slow for what truck drivers were doing in that left lane or the left lanes. I don't know. Oh, that's like the it was it was crazy. And then they're all like uh butt to nose for a hundred miles or whatever that little strip is, 50 miles uh around the lake. I I I it was my least that and uh the I-55.

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So I I like that drive. I I love like because we went to uh uh um Minneapolis quite a bit with FedEx. That was a hot lane for us. So Chicago, Minneapolis, up through all that. I know all that really well. Driving to the Dells, it's it's a beautiful drive. Um, I used to look really look forward to you pop into Chicago and you go straight up. Is that 94? That brings you right like next to the Sears Tower.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, I think it's 94.

SPEAKER_01

It's been too long since I've done it, but it is beautiful. You've got those old bridges, those old wrought iron bridges. You've got the entire Chicago downtown. It's just gorgeous.

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Chicago's an awesome little town.

SPEAKER_01

It really is. It's a cute little city. And it's so funny too how it's at the interstate absolutely divided the city. Because to your right, it's all skyscrapers, to your left, it's nothing.

SPEAKER_06

Like it's we didn't do that very often. I think we it it was a drive flyover state. Yeah. I say flyover, meaning airplane, but it was a a pass through, unless you were truly delivering in Chicago, which didn't happen very often. Or pickup. But usually you were passing through to go west.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and it's not it's not on the 80. You know, it's pretty far north.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

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Um, so you have to actually drive like from the time you leave the 80 or the 90, maybe it's 90 that goes up through there. Whenever you leave the 80 and you and you go north, it's a pretty good little hike before you get to Chicago. But then once you get there, it it's really cool. It slow traffic, hour. Oh. That's when you put your podcast on, your music on, and you remember you're not being paid by the hour. And uh this is just Or by the mile. Or by the mile. Yeah, you're just it just is what it is. And uh get through it. Certain cities to me have that magic, and Chicago's one of them. Driving past Chicago, or at night, two o'clock in the morning, city you know, the city's got all the twinkly lights, and you can actually go 50 miles an hour, 45 miles an hour, whatever it is to there. Right. Um New York City when you're on uh 95 and you're going up through um Atlantic Cities over there. Yeah, Atlantic City is over there, but you're you're going through uh um New Jersey up the um Hudson River, whatever. On your right side, you see downtown New York City, and during Christmas, the Empire State Buildings lit up in green and and and red, and like that's magic to me. You know, I know one of your favorites, one of my favorites, is going from uh Florence, y'all, uh up into uh Cincinnati.

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Yeah.

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It's breathtaping and it's an immediate reveal.

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It is.

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You come across a hill and it's like ta-da! It is.

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I love skylines.

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Yeah.

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The city skylines. Like we would have Nashville does that.

SPEAKER_01

Vegas does that. Vegas, it's not Vegas doesn't do it like it used to because if you're coming in a certain way, it does. It does so if you were coming up from Hoover Dam back in the day, uh, Vegas did that. You went up and around, and boom, it's all of Vegas. It's not that way anymore because

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they built an interstate, and the new interstate bypasses all that, so now it's uh it's uh it's more of a gradual, yeah, it's not as dramatic as it used to be.

SPEAKER_06

Charlotte, North Carolina is one of those. I know it's a smaller city.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, the Queen City, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But it's still you pop up I think it's a north to south direction, and uh there was a city, and all of their um tops of their skyscrapers, taller buildings, they weren't really skyscrapers, were all the same color though. Yeah. I think that was always my favorite. Katie, Katie, Texas. You pop into Katy, Texas, and their bridges and their overpasses and their tops of their towers of their big buildings, all the same color for that duration. And we're talking the I-10, nothing fancy. Um but their light scheme was on point. Like everybody's doing the same thing. I think that's pretty cool that a city comes together to do the same thing. You don't remember Katie?

SPEAKER_01

So we did so I remember Katie was blue. Okay, so I know I know Katie very, very well. Uh I the worst uh one of the worst accidents I ever gotten in my life was in Katie on KD Freeway. We shut I shut the interstate down.

SPEAKER_06

Oh.

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America. And uh and and and that's a wide interstate to shut down.

SPEAKER_06

What is it, like 12 lanes wide?

SPEAKER_01

It was a jackknifed 18 wheeler. So the 18 wheeler hit me and he jackknifed. I was in a personal car, I was 19 years old. Wow. And um he hit me and then he slammed his brakes, locked his brakes up, and he went completely like not quite like 80 degrees across the interstate. It shut the whole thing down.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it's crazy. I drove the car home. Oh, yeah. Bananas. Uh, but anyways, uh, so yeah, I know KD very, very well. But we I I just don't remember being a place we drove through a lot. Eric, do you remember KD being somewhere we went a lot? The whole 10. Not very rare.

SPEAKER_04

We didn't go to Texas much at all. So Panther does Dallas like you were talking.

SPEAKER_00

We did FedEx, and FedEx was more of a northern area. Yeah. And we did Dallas a lot. Sure. I was gonna say you were talking about your colors on top of the buildings, Fort Worth. Yes, yeah, Fort Worth software.

SPEAKER_01

And Dallas has the big green tower, the building that's all it's all no, not the ball, but the other one that's all green, like up and down. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

I do agree. Cityscapes. Hey, as a day driver, did your cityscapes bring awe when you popped up over the hill?

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No.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, you missed out on that.

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Sorry.

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Well, no, I you're sorry. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so Eric and I we talked have talked about this. So when we first started driving, I was a night driver, he was a day driver. And so I got all the cityscapes, I got all the pretty lights, all that stuff. Eric got windmills. So when I was driving through the middle of the night, you would see the flashing red in the distance. That's it. But that's all you can see.

SPEAKER_06

I always felt alien-like.

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The first time I ever saw, like, oh my gosh, a windmill was outside of Chicago. When you're, you know what I'm talking about? When you're on the ID, you're coming into Chicago, on the right hand side is two giant windmills. They then they're all lit up at night. They're it's very rare. There's not any that are like that. And um, I've ever seen that and be like, oh my gosh, I turned around, I woke Eric up. We went back and dribbed by, and Eric's like, oh yeah, I see it all the time. And I'm like, what? He's like, I don't see him all the time. And I'm like, really? So later on in our in our as the company grew, I had to be awake. More during the day, and he had to be so we had kind of split our driving up, and so he'd start driving more nights. I started driving more days, um, just the way we split our hours up, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh my gosh, there's windmills everywhere, everywhere.

SPEAKER_06

We definitely see different things.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, yeah. The shifts. Absolutely. So I I that was my favorite part of our driving was when we did have the split shifts of um getting a little day and a little night in each shift to be able to just see the country. It's just it's a beautiful country. That's one of the my favorite things about driving. About is just it's such a freaking beautiful country. Yeah, everybody does it. Nevada's Nevada's amazing, and Nevada is totally different than the deserts of uh Arizona, which is totally different than the deserts of uh Utah and you're yeah, New Mexico or Utah, and you're like, well, how can they be different? It's all the they are, and they're distinctly like they're distinct. So you actually do get a chance to see, like, I can kind of see why there's a state line here. Because it the terrain does literally change. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Especially going between New Mexico and Arizona. Yes. Now the argument Oh, it's one place where the landscape changes like right at the line.

SPEAKER_01

Right at the line. You immediately are like into that giant can not canyon, but whatever, and it's got the caves and the the um the Native American stuff on the walls and stuff. Yeah, it's very cool.

SPEAKER_06

Um I just think the United States is cool.

SPEAKER_01

Kansas and Colorado buck that trend.

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Do tell.

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Uh I-70 from Kansas into Colorado. Boy, if you miss the sign, yeah, you won't know.

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Unless your GPS says welcome to Colorado.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Uh Colorada. Colorado.

SPEAKER_02

Is that what you're saying? Colorado.

SPEAKER_01

I'm I'm just saying, I don't know what Colorado did to convince America to give them a section of Kansas, but that is not Colorado.

SPEAKER_06

It is that flat land leading up to the Rockies. That section between Denver and wherever it goes out to Colorado or Kansas.

SPEAKER_01

It's like 180 miles. It is a long time.

SPEAKER_08

Colorado needed it to so they could actually draw the line.

SPEAKER_01

I think they needed just I draw the line here.

SPEAKER_08

I'm driving this mountain. Give me some some flat land.

SPEAKER_01

No, they needed it for agriculture because they're like, we can't grow wheat in the mountains, so we need this land to protect ourselves. They didn't realize, like, oh no, we get it from everybody. That's right. It's uh no, it it's it's crazy, but it's I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

It's fair part of the job seeing the I feel like Kansas is that way though, going in any direction. Yeah, it just kind of goes out to a different state that looks similar. I think I feel like Kansas kind of get gypped.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I don't know. Kansas to Missouri, you immediately go from like flatlands, uh not cornfields, uh wheat fields into rolling hills of Missouri. Like it's to me, as soon as you cross that line, there's a difference.

SPEAKER_08

See, all the states around it did not agree with each other, so they created Kansas to have border between every nice plant. That's good.

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Meanwhile, you know, Kansas gets all of the wheat. Like they get billions of dollars a year from the water.

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And they were like, This works for us. This works for us. We'll take it.

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We'll take it. You know what we're gonna do? We have two major crops. We're gonna do wheat and we're gonna do airplanes, and that's it. And the world's like, okay. Sure. You know what else you get? Tornadoes.

SPEAKER_06

Always fires. Did everybody saw it yesterday?

SPEAKER_01

Did you get fires?

SPEAKER_06

Maybe it was Oklahoma. Well, there is a fire watch. I saw a big fire coming towards the town. I think it might have been Oklahoma.

SPEAKER_01

You saw big fire coming towards the town?

SPEAKER_06

Well, I saw fire warning.

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You should have called us.

SPEAKER_06

Well, we don't live in the state of Oklahoma. I'll have to do more research on that, but I did see some fires happening, which is unfortunate.

SPEAKER_01

It's been a very dry winter. Not for us. No, for the West. The West, yeah. Oh man. Well, I tell you what, uh, it's been uh a really good time hanging out with y'all. I appreciate the opportunity. And it's been I hope it's been uh pleasure, not pleasurable, that's the weird way of saying it. I hope it's been enjoyable uh for our listening audience. Um if there's anything you would like us to talk about, cover, news stories you're curious about, please drop us a line. You can shoot us an email at the outerbeltpodcast at gmail.com. It's theouterbeltpodcast at gmail.com. You can drop us a comment if you're watching this video on YouTube. Um you could actually, I would love to know is what's your favorite thing? Is it Cityscapes? Is it the natural terrain? What do you enjoy seeing across America? Uh let us know in the comments. And uh if you're listening to us on a podcast or somewhere else, please uh give us a review as long as it's good. Uh let other people know that you listen to us. We just really want to help you get you know an hour or two down the road uh in uh some form of entertainment. And uh, Jerry, what have I missed?

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We gotta get we gotta get those charts made.

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Uh hey, I want to do a shout out to HighVizTrucker on Instagram. And uh, yep, shouting out to you. Uh Woo! I know you watch us or listen to us at least, and uh I want to see some video content ideas come from you. So I'm calling me out. I know you've got some out there. You want to know our opinions? Hit us up.

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And we have opinions.

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We do, you know. We well, you know we do. You listen to us, so you know we do.

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I I I like to say Arby's has the meat, we have the opinions.

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Yep. So um calling me out. Put some uh show notes, comment, whatever. Uh bring up some kind of a topic, and uh we'll uh give you all of our nosy opinions.

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Nosy opinions. Not nosy opinions, just opinions.

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All right, fine. All right.

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Well, uh, thank you so much for hanging out with us. Until we see you again, stay safe and make good decisions. Don't leave money on the table.

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And keep those wills a turn on.

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That sounds like a good plan. Good night.