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After an all-time finish at Augusta, we're back to dish our thoughts from the first major of the year. With Rory completing the career grand slam, an epic year at the majors is shaping up for the Irishman. 

It's been awhile since we last sat down to chat, but we're stoked to be back in action and promise to crank out more... as time allows.

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Self-esteem by the offspring. Do you hear on the radio on the way in or

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something? No, I just... One of the greatest...

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Yeah,

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what is that? Guys, we're back. We're recording. Let's keep it clean because we

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don't have a producer anymore. We're officially nominating you as the host. You have to run it. You do all the topics. All right, you'll be

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the analyzers. I'll be the color. Welcome back to another episode of Straight Down the Middle. It's been way too long. Definitely the longest couple of months. Yeah, we need an off season. I mean, there's a lot going on. I'll have kids and youth sports. And Maddie's been traveling all over this.

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Everybody knows the season doesn't start till the back nine in Augusta. That's true.

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And I really wanted Rory to get his first lead at Augusta on the back nine. He was front running big time. and uh... What a better time than now to come in and talk a little bit about the Masters, talk about Matty's travel to San Antone

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to watch his Gators. We've missed a lot in the last couple of months. Can't cover all of it.

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I tried to start writing it all down.

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Yeah, I just got lucky working San Antonio, the tour event on the ground, and then the Final Four happened to be there, so I got to take in the last game. It was killer, man. That was an intense, about as intense as it gets for a sporting event. I mean, the last 10 minutes were... or neck and neck, it felt like whenever we, if we could take the lead, we were going to win.

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Yeah.

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And, you know, it just happened super late. All-time night, though, for me. But it's like

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Florida had the exact same game like three games in a row. Yeah. And they were just, they knew that if they could just get some point into the second half, and then they were trailing in every single game. So it was like.

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Walter Clayton is something special. I mean, he really is.

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Yeah. For the Australian viewers, Matt's college team won the. National Championship. National Championship, basketball only team. ever to win three national championships in basketball and three in football. And they did it

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in less than 30 years. In the entirety of college sports. I

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got one thing to say. Wear it. There's no more arguments. Is that a gay thing? It's a me thing. All other schools are there. Kiss my ass. Are you kidding me? Three and three?

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Am I wrong in saying that You got like... I feel like the National Championship of Basketball, it's a pretty affordable ticket for fucking Taylor Swift concerts and Super Bowls. Will you pay like 400 bucks?

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Well, so... Yeah, but let's walk through this real quick. So there's... Let's do it. It's a massive stadium, the Alamo Domes, where the Spurs used to play. 70,000 people. And then you have two fan bases. You have Houston fan base. Four fan bases. You have four. Because they all went in for the Final Four. But Houston's only three-edger. Right. But then you have the Gators. We normally travel pretty well. Our fan base does, especially for something like this. Yeah. I didn't think it was... I thought

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it was about right. I think it's... But the Super Bowl is, you know, four grand and... But I feel like the following of the Final Four, I guess the Super Bowl is truly worldwide and the National Championship of Basketball is... is not well, what is the,

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I would say this, the final four, I mean,

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the college football, what is it? I would say the

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final, for me, the final four shits all over the Super Bowl.

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It delivered this year, all chalk. It was, I mean, Auburn, I'm

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an Auburn guy. I just say think in general, the final four. Did you guys have a wager on the semifinal? No, we should have

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done something

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silly like spun

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the

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wheel. So Scott went to Auburn and Matt went to Florida and both SEC teams played off.

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But you had all one seeds in the final. So you have four massive fan bases coming there with Duke, Auburn, Florida, Houston, the local favorite. But then two of those teams have to go home. And so... tickets free up going into that Monday session.

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That's probably a dynamic that I'm thinking. A lot of people from Duke and Auburn probably had tickets to the Monday and they just resell them.

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Exactly. So what are you going to do in that next day while you're in San

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Antonio? Everyone went out to the tour event. They did. There were so many Duke fans out there, Gator fans. Oh yeah, it was packed. Auburn, a ton

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of college

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gear out there on Sunday. You

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know who wasn't there? My boy Sean McGill, so I got them tickets, but they wound up sleeping in. Oh, come on, McGill. Floating down the river there by the Alamo. What was the party like? Did you go down and celebrate with everybody?

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I went before way early. hung out at the Hard Rock. It was like a gator hangout. I saw Doering and take Casey and really just a bunch of great gators had a nice hang saw a ton of people I knew. Yeah it was just a killer time and then went to the game obviously one came back and went back out. I'm not really sure where. And then I drove to Austin Airport at like 3.30 in the morning to catch a flight back. This is a total mess, but well worth

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it. Well, it sounds like there were a lot of people in the same boat

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on that flight back. Scott Jameson was there. Dude, I ran into

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him before the game. We had a drink, yeah. His wife went to UF. Yeah, big game. I saw Scotty walk into the

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bar. There's

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a ton of people. Let me guess. He wasn't sober.

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No, he's great. He's the man.

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Yeah, he is. We'll get him on here. Very long week, though. So then, Matty, you fly on back, hit Jacksonville for a second, then go down to

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cover some matches for CBS. Yeah, I did the updates for the CBS HQ last week. every 10 minutes on the hour, basically, is what it was. It was a lot of fun.

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You looked fantastic. Wearing that blazer. Matty was looking studio

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style. I think he's been waiting for this shit for his whole life. The golf was just a cover to get to. Golf got in the way for 39, 40 years. I was like, I want to put a blazer on. Took him back golf. 10 minutes an hour. I will say the one cool

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thing about working...

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That format seems awesome, by the way. It is

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awesome. And then the people there were amazing. The difference between working somewhere like there versus Tour Live. In Tour Live, I got to be careful of what I say. You cannot really have a strong... opinion against something that doesn't align with their stuff.

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Into a law there's so much filth on that it creeps in that you need to have an opinion. Here, I could say whatever I want.

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Really? Yeah, they were like asking me about Roy's personal life. I mean, can you imagine that? I mean, yeah. What's the scoop? No, I didn't dive into it. I'm just saying in general.

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But you're also covering Augusta National, which you got to kind of be on your tippy toes there on what you're going to say. I was a little shocked. to see Jordan Spieth come out and start resting on the mud balls.

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Let's talk about a couple of these interviews last week. I was too, and I believe him. I'm not saying he's wrong or lying or whatever, but he's been around long enough to know you can't be... You can't... Whine? Well, yes, but... You don't want to be the first guy to come off and complain about that, and you also know it's going to look terrible. You're not going to come out of this looking better. Especially where you are on the leaderboard. Yeah, and everyone else is getting them, too.

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You're playing the same court. The mud balls are, and I've done the full circle of how golf is not just a game to test your... It was intended to test you, but the mud ball ones are tough. I agree. It's tough to take a bad bounce off a mogul or a hit in the pin. That you can sort of weather, but the external ones, like sprinkler heads were always a tough one. When they have a sprinkler head right by a green and it hits the sprinkler head, that one was tough to take. You could easily mitigate that.

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No, I'm talking about Jordan voicing his opinion, though. I'm not talking about mud balls in general. 100% they are fucked.

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But they are tough to take, so you can see how it is.

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It's tough to take, but the way he comes off, it makes it sound like everyone else ahead of him is getting lucky because Jordan's getting mud balls.

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I do not like that at all. It takes away. I didn't say it that way. He was like, we're not supposed to talk about it, but we're all dealing with this. He also said the grass, which I remember, I won't mention names, but plenty of guys we know that have played there used to always, not complain about it, but they mow it all into you, which is, you see the stripe patterns on a lot of fairways or you see checkered patterns, but that is all purposely mowed one way. You see the big row of mowers at Augusta, but I don't think the viewer realizes they're only mowing one way from T to green. No, sorry, from green to T. So the... angle of the grass is always into you yeah interesting

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well i i just think you know and it's never like there was only one way that was going to come off so that's how

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the way he said it so rory had a mud ball there on 13 on saturday he should have said it yeah

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yeah jordan was right

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mud on the left ball goes right

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that was everything was fine wait they shot an 11 too that was

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uh lucky i mean the shot on 11 after that thing stayed up i already first of all After 10. I thought it was ballgame. It's his week. This is it. He might win by eight. Let's see how much he can win

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by. What do you think there? He thought he blocked it and he last second

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saved it? No, I think it's the opposite. Actually, I know this. Whenever you see someone drop the club on the way through, that face is shut. It's extremely shut or you think it's shut and the only way to stop is to let go. That's an athletic move. That's a natural reaction from Rory right there. It's an athletic move and he just dropped it. The breakdown of the club drop.

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Yeah, thinking about it, that's actually true. Because if it goes right, it's fine, up and down. If you go left, that is fucking trouble. That's like, you know, there's plenty of history of people going left and not coming back.

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Most of his majors, he's pulled away and won by a lot, except for PGA.

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And mostly on soft golf courses.

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And he hadn't won one in 11 years.

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Boy,

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I think... I

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keep saying that. He's not exempt. No, absolutely not.

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He tried to. First of all, he tried to as hard as he could. And second of all, Bryson, what a letdown on Sunday. Are you kidding me? That was terrible. I almost feel like Bryson helped Rory more by... applying zero pressure on him. What the hell was that? Laying up on three? The best part of your game all week's been your short game. Far and away. I mean, Bryson hit it like dog shit last week, dude. For him to be two shots back, Rory heading into the final round, that was a joke. Rory was hitting it like 15 shots better than

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Bryson. What's cool, there was a lot of debate, you know, Saturday night, everyone, you know. Buddy,

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he was just a dud

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all day. I said the biggest indicator of the day or, you know, what's going to happen, it's got nothing to do with Rory. It's got to do with Bryson. If Bryson puts the pressure on, I think he wins. But I said if Bryson shoots like three under, he wins. But he's got to shoot three under, and he didn't. That

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being said, there is still so much going on after that. I'm talking about like early in the round. Early in the round. But then Bryson's not a factor, obviously, on the back nine, and Rory's still giving it the gas.

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But devil's advocate, if Bryson does play well, maybe Rory doesn't gas. You know, there's so many players that maybe if– Bryson's under through nine. Rory still plays aggressive and applies the pressure. Who knows? I mean, do you

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think that Bryson, he celebrated that putt on Saturday like he had just won the Masters. He spent so much energy high-fiving everybody, walking off the green. You still

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have another 18 holes to go. Yeah, but that's part of the shtick, too. Like, that's where he's built the brand now, and it's become one of the least popular people in golf to popular. To

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me, his brand took a, it should take a major hit after Sunday that was terrible dude he's terrible in front of the camera his interviews suck they suck he's not you don't even know you're from a different world no no you don't even know he doesn't even know who he is dude Bryson DeChambeau there's no chance

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okay but that doesn't matter that doesn't matter we're inside the bubble he's appealing to people outside the bubble and I think he's brand definitely grew there's people that are still coming to the sport that see this big guy hits it long he's all over the place and he almost beat Rory so yeah We're too inside the bubble to... Yeah, maybe he hurt himself inside the bubble, but that's already determined.

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I just think, you know... You know, Rory almost beat him at his own game Sunday. He was... Rory was the showman out there on seven when he hit that crazy shot out of the trees, tipping his cap. When do you ever see Rory, you know... Yeah, you're right....showing any kind of, like, body language out there? I mean... Because he was nervous as shit. He's also... Yes, but he's also... I just find him 100x more authentic than a guy like Bryson. It's not even close. And

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people that... Well, recently, he was flip and flopping there for a few years, but now, yeah, he's on brand.

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Well, I flip and flop too all the time, but you're allowed to change your opinion on something, but I just, I don't know.

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What does this do for you in your mind on Rory and the place golf creates now? I mean... One of five. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Or six now. Undoubtedly, yeah. But he hasn't done a lot. He's won tons of FedEx Cups and tour events since his last major. But there's a lot of dudes that have more majors than him in the last five years. Yeah. And I saw just a horrid take to say that Rory is the best golfer in the post-Tiger era. I mean, the post-Tiger era just started.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's one of three. So him, Scheffler, and Koepka with Majors, you would say. But the story is changing every year. He's

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got to win, what, two more, three more to be a Mount Rushmore type of player?

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yeah that's tough that's tough for me and the whole Mount Rushmore thing like none of us were living for some of those guys that are

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that's why we throw them off

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right so who do you got on your Mount okay so if you could count I got Trump

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who do you got for real well obviously Tiger and Jack is two that are

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undisputed okay so exactly so Tiger, Jack then who's next I don't know in our era I was going to say Hogan but I don't know you cannot go no no further back than Jack

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No further back than Jack. Yeah.

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So, Tiger, Jack, then Gary Player. He's one of four. Is he the same era? He's older, but he's off.

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I'll have to put Arnie on there just because he's fucking Arnie.

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All right. Let's do this. Let's do this. Let's do this. Let's just do Tiger and then on. Okay. All right. Tiger and on. Oh, yeah. All

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right. Well, Phil. Yeah. Phil goes on there. Okay. Man, I love Dustin Johnson. I really wish he had a couple more majors.

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Tiger, Phil, Rory, and I don't know. Speed's going to be close. And we were all hesitant to put

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Scheffler on there because he's only got two only.

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Hey, I want to speak to Scheffler and Phil. Now, Phil came out and said that Scheffler is not going to win this year. Ooh. You saw that a couple of weeks ago. And then, you know, Sheffield plays good and Trevor Illman's like, ooh, Phil, which I don't mind this. I think it's sort of a bit gay, but cool too. Like it's now Phil, at least he came out with some stones and made a big call. Bit of like a Steve Elkington call.

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He came out and said that Scottie isn't going to win Augusta this year or win at all this year. Win at all. Win at all,

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I

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think he said.

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Oh, wow. I don't think he was down in Sheffield, but I think Phil was coming from a place like, hey, you don't just win all the time every year. You go ups and downs. And I think he maybe saw something and was like, I think Sheffield's going to go into a little bit of a– He's a little soft. But Sheffield is– I don't want to say one-on-one, but Sheffield is a unique unit. And we were talking about this. I was talking with maybe someone the other day. Sheffield moves the ball both ways. It's like a switch hitter, like, perfectly. So many guys, you know, fade, fade, fade, and can hit a draw. But, like, Sheffield is... Who else moves it both ways that good? No one.

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I don't... Well... I haven't seen Scottie turn a ton of balls over. But

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if it's a left-to-right hole, he fades it. If it's a right-to-left, he draws. Sure, yeah, he plays the right

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shot every time.

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Yeah. Off the tee, though. But... i think with a hundred percent confidence

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i think scotty's biggest strength is his his iron game and distance control he's like a power player with elite distance control is is his biggest strength um

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golf's in a good place i'll say that great place the live and and the tour like this makes these majors you can see by tickets and scalpers and that like that since that's happened the the price of admission to these majors is just freaking insane. You think

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because of the list?

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Well, it's because the only opportunity to see everyone

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together. You don't think it was because Roy's had like an insane prep leading up to the Masters and

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was trying to close up the career grand slam? No, no. The ticket sales at Augusta have been$2,000 a day for like three or four years. They used to be like$1,000. But now that it's the one chance to see everyone, and I don't want to even get into that debate, but it is the time that you get to see... Even if it's like Sergio, he's a has-been, but he still won the Masters, and Sergio, he's a fucking big

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brand. You get to feel like you're a part of history. I mean, that Sunday round set up to be something we've never seen before, and it wound up being something we haven't seen before.

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Shane Bacon wrote a tweet. I think he deleted it on Sunday morning. It came in so heavy. It was like, something, something, one of the greatest days in golf ever you're about to witness. And I was like, I was almost like, hang on. I was going to chirp at him, and I like Shane a lot. I was like, is that a... do you know something we don't know? Are you 24 hours ahead? And he ended up being like semi-right. Is it scripted? But then I went back to find that tweet and it wasn't there. It

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felt scripted, though. It really did. I mean,

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the only letdown was Bryson. Yeah, at the start of the day, I thought it was a terrible pairing for Rory. I was duped big time, big time. I thought Bryson was going to come out. I think we all had Bryson. Yeah. Doubles first. But at the start of the day, I thought it was a terrible pairing for Roy. I mean, Bryson's a very slow player. Roy's fast. In that situation, the slow player always has the advantage because he dictates the pace. He takes your extra time. Bryson didn't seem interested, though, in doing any gamesmanship at all. And then after... the presser when he was like, Roy didn't talk to me all day. He wouldn't talk to me. But then he also said, but I guess he was focused. That gets chopped. He's like, but I guess he's focused. He wouldn't talk to me. Yeah, he said that later, but there was also a part where it was like, that's not me. I mean, he clearly got butthurt over that. It did not... not bother him which I love

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I thought Ben Arn wrote something on Twitter and I was like in twosomes you don't really talk a lot threesomes you do you're waiting and there's three there's like a different dynamic everyone's bullshit

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in twosomes if you're playing with someone you don't like you don't talk to them that's just the way sports are that's just the way

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stuff works out there Target never Talk to anyone Right Some people are focused And some people are chatterboxes Like if If Matt Every You think Roy

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You think Roy likes Bryson After all this crap The last couple years Like couple years of shit That's come out of his mouth

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I don't think he hates But I don't Think it's just like a Non-applicable Don't like him Don't hate him They're not boys But it's like I want to win the Masters And if I think Not talking to me And Harry Just going to be in our own planet That's what we're going to do Yeah I don't know why he said that But he Look You know who Bryson is, right? Like from 10 years ago and Bubba Watson. And I like both these guys and I love exactly what they're doing for golf. But they are who they are. What are they? They're odd. They're

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different every day.

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10 years ago, Bryson had zero fans. on tour. I caddied in the same group as him at Erin Hills. The guy was just on his own planet. He was just known for bringing a compass to the game and getting in that band. As you said, people had to change, right? And he changed, and I think what he's doing is great. And I give him two thumbs up and... two high fives for doing it but he is still like he's elite he gets a lot of attention he runs a channel it's like it is Bryson's world when you're around Bryson and I'm not even hanging shit on him that's just that's every pro jock you know and so when things don't go his way yeah he's gonna go revert back to being spoiled and he said that and whatever well I think

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it's good that we're talking about it back to the price of admission so yes after okay I got a call Sunday morning that I missed. I was buying frickin' flowers to go pot some flowers on Sunday morning. Get back in the car and see that my buddy Cammy had called me twice. Hey, I got an extra ticket. We're going up to Augusta. He had to go down the list and get another guy to go with him. So I missed out on a free ride, a free ticket. What time was he calling you? 9.30 a.m. How far is the drive? Four and a half. Yeah, plenty of time. Yeah. But I do think... Do you think... But I went on to StubHub. It was 7K a ticket. Wow.

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Yeah.

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Just to get in the door. I tell

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you, if you... What a deal. Like, you know, you... You can basically resell your ticket. You get one time in and out at Augusta. Oh, yeah? So hopefully the person hasn't gone out before. But if you're one of those people that want to go and check it out and then want to watch it on TV, there's a good availability. You've got to watch out. When you're

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leaving, there will be these guys that look like total FBI narcs that are trying to buy tickets off of you within, I think it's 100 feet or 100 yards of the gate. Georgia has an anti-scalping law where you can't sell a ticket for free. over face value that close. And so, I mean, I've been going to like an FCC championship game and the dome and somebody selling a ticket along with like a hat. Like, okay, you're paying 500 bucks for the hat and 100 bucks for

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the ticket. Well, Curtis Dvorak was looking for a ticket for his brother-in-law and that's what I said. I said, worst comes to worst, go up there. And I'm telling you, people are walking out. Some people want to watch. They want to watch the back nine on TV. If you went, like, I wonder who went that said the experience was awesome the rules are you know we've all been the rules are fucking you've played it the rules are insane it's so cool like no place else but you can't really soak it in yeah now every time the scoreboard was getting updated which i think cbs did a great job kept showing that yeah the whole crowd at 18 and rory bro like it was i thought there was a bit of a football match that production

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the production was in all time i thought uh some of the camera angles like on 12 there was a new one where they were shooting kind of from the back left part of that green and you could see you know down the line putt to that from the fat side of the green to the to the right pin i thought that was super cool and then the that low angle camera they had whenever rose stuffed it on 16 and they swung the camera from the side of the hill on 16 all the way down the left side of 16 to rose like that was killer i i thought it was very

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well done. What did the YouTubers think of the CBS? Yeah, exactly. They will get an opinion on it. But yeah, that was non-traditional. We need to

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edit out the bad parts of Bryson on Sunday. Consolidate

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that into a 30-minute, 18-hole. It

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can fit what he wants to be.

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I did, speaking of the roars.

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What a world we live in, man. It pisses me off.

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What? This edited crap. This will not be edited, but... You know, the patrons all jumped onto Rory's bandwagon and lots of Rory chants. I thought that was a little premature in the playoff while Rosie's trying to win the same damn tournament, too. And Rosie was a part of the previous.

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And Rosie. But he was the perfect

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guy to be in that spot. He was. He's also 100-1 on Saturday night, which is crazy.

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He's also done everything but win that freaking tournament there, dude. I mean, this is his third, second, second time he's lost in a playoff.

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and the previous playoff was him with Sergio 2017 I didn't know that until it flashed up

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and I

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yeah

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I liked him the second he obviously got off to a hot start on Thursday but And

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he backed it up on Friday. Had a little backslide

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on Saturday. Played like dog crap on Friday, but got it in the house at 100 par for the day. And then Saturday was okay for him, but really on 16 it unraveled. He stiffed one in there and pre-putted it. And then I think he made a sloppy bogey on 17 or 18 maybe. A

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lot of guys could have won in the end with Rory sort of coming back saying three putts. Patrick Reid, I thought he was the value bet Saturday night in Australia. He was 41 to 1. and you know he's got past champions that can do some pretty crazy things and shit if he three putts 13 from four feet if he holds that he's at nine under I do standing on the 14th tee and then he

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holds out on 17

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yeah crazy I do I do want to

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give you a little credit here last time first time let's go yeah right listen last week we were talking you and I about Masters picks and you you said something to me that I remembered after after Sunday, he said, you know, sometimes guys at Augusta that don't have form all of a sudden find it there. And Max Homa was one of them. Yeah, that's awesome to see. I mean, where the hell did that come from, dude? I would not have put Max in my... That was impressive, some of the shots he was hitting down the stretch, too, like 11. Did you see that shot he hit into that back

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left pin? Just balls. Ridiculous, yes. Unless he

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pulled it. But this is a guy who's been... not just playing bad I mean completely lost like completely

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lost yeah changed teacher changed equipment caddy ball yeah the caddy thing I can speak a little bit about that that was completely mutual those guys are still best friends they were eating lunch every day at Augusta so for the world that thinks that Max and Joe had a blow up or Joe left for some other no I don't think Joe has a job filled in for Justin Thomas but I think Joe maybe instituted said dude we are like things are going on in our lives kids and you know Joe's had some other issues going on that let's just take a break and it changes go to holiday get some get a fresh voice so props to Joe I don't know if that's exactly how it went down but I'm pretty sure and those two are thick as thieves they're two of the best friends as player caddy relationship maybe Mark Leishman and Matty Kelly might be the only thicker team maybe so yeah but that's good to see Max playing well I didn't realize he hadn't like made a cut or something in like a long time that's fucking insane and he bogeyed 17 part 18 finished tied 12 so no matter what happens he's in next year but it is a reset because it's a totally different week it's you know what I mean it's just yeah a change will do you good every now and then but it's hollowed grounds whether Joe Cady or not I mean especially like their past team is like Schwartzel You'll see a guy, I don't know if he even had form or not, but the past champions. Schwartzel had form coming in. But they all turn up. Patrick, like it's. Bubba Watson, no form coming in here. Trevor Illman, during

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his struggles, I remember one year he was playing really good in Augusta. Has Trevor's voice changed a little bit to you guys? Like, less South African? Probably. Have you noticed that? Sounds more like Mark now. No, no, no. I think Mark is way... Mark's more South African. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He emphasizes it way more. Trevor sometimes sounds completely normal to me. Okay. Like, he does.

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Yeah, a bit, huh? Yeah, I don't know. i wasn't paying attention i need to though

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i mean baker finch hasn't lost his aussie accent a couple of words but something that's just great about

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having a little foreign accent in golf though

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yeah to

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the token uh the

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token foreign

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well that's an interesting the switching at caddies and there's some guys that i look out there and i'm like i think they've been together a little too long um spieth and greller like how is what's going on there like With what? How long they've been

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together. I mean, is it

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just we're in this thing together forever?

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Well, I mean, probably. Like, if you're Jordan.

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But if you're not, if there's no, if you're not arguing, there's no reason to do it. Yeah,

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and do you really want to start over, man, this late? Like, with someone else? I mean, I could see if Greller's.

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That's great job security.

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You know. Yeah, and he's mastered it. I mean, that guy. I know Jordan's not winning golf tournaments right now, but he's playing some... Yeah, he's not playing terrible. He's playing some decent golf.

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Yeah, yeah. Now, so, you know, the PGA is his opportunity to win the Grand Slam. Yeah. Wow. I'm not saying it's going to be Roy's... Back-to-backers.

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Roy's going to be... Dude, Roy might pick off all four of these this year if he keeps the same intensity up.

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Well, he's got two. Well, if you count the fifth major, but... It's a pretty nice seat.

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Think about it. Quail Hollow. Quail Hollow. He owns that place. Oakmont. Oakmont. I mean, he's going to be one of five guys that could win there. And then Royal Port Rush is the... In the backyard. Yes.

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That's going to be pretty

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exciting. I do think Spieth... is going to be a little bit more encouraged playing quite hard. I don't even know his form there, but just saying, okay, Rory did it. I can do it. And you know he's telling himself that, even if it's placebo, who cares? A little inspiration. I was inspired. Two majors in a row of people going into that. I guess it was Spieth the sixth. I mean, was Rory the sixth? He was the sixth. Well,

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Gene Sarazin won the Masters in 35, which was only the second playing of the Masters. So it wasn't quite a grand slam or a major back then. How many people played? Nine. Seven of them were members of the Masters. One past champion and Gene right there. Yeah. But, no, that was just... I love the history of it. I love the history of it. It's

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the best tournament in the world. Like, I think Australians, 95%, think Augusta, just only because... It is. Well, a lot of Europeans think the Open, and I get that, too. Rory said it's the best tournament in the

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world. After he won.

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It has the most history, just because it's the same venue. And... Okay, so if Oakmont... You go to Oakmont and you know Dustin Johnson, you know Cabrera, but you don't worry about... Nick Flanagan won the USM there. Yeah, but there's all the histories that are at other courses. Like, you know, someone went, like Justin Rose went at Marion. That doesn't enter your head. But Augusta, every win, every choke... You know the Norman trade. You know the Spieth on 12. You know all that. That's why I'm saying it's... And it's the longest gap between majors. Obviously, now it's even further. It used to be August to April. Now it's July to April. You're starved. It's...

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I want to give Justin Rose props real quick, too, at the end. You know, obviously, he played a hell of a round Sunday to, you know, give it a scare, but... Drops a bomb on 18. Marco Miraparte. That's my favorite part in the world. But, yes... Birdieing the last, but then the playoff. I mean, he striped a drive. Obviously, Rory's about 30 or 40 yards longer than Justin. I want to say that was probably a seven iron he came into that green with, maybe even more, maybe a six.

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Dude,

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he was so far back. He was like 180

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uphill. Yeah. All right, it's maybe seven. Okay,

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so seven. Okay, I will say it's a seven iron. Dude, that ball landed two feet in front of the pin directly online. Like, that was delivering big time in that moment. Like, he didn't flinch. That putt he had was super awkward, too. It was running the full line. It's a spine, yeah. If you get it right, it doesn't break. Get it left, it doesn't break. And it's one that you don't see a ton of people have, you know, period.

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Because normally it rolls forward. It's a tough read. It's a tough read. tough read

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but man that guy hit some shots

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down the stretch and he's 44 like he's he's inspired me to enter my club championship if the back holds up

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but yeah you don't see many 44 year old like look we've also seen i also text a few people when he got that lead on 16 and he had a bad t-shirt on seven i was like rose is gonna finish bogey bogey this is kenny perry moment and he bogeyed but he birdied 18 and just proved me that i have no fucking clue but um You don't... When was the last time I was in Florida? Like, you know, Phil... I found

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myself rooting for him late. Rosie.

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Yeah. Yeah. And had Fucci back on the bag. They've been on and off quite a few times. He's been back on for a while. Good relationship. But

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Rossi's not a villain. I mean, it was easy to cheer for him. It's like, this is going to be a win-win.

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It reminded me of Mark on the green with Adam Scott when Adam made the putt. Obviously, they're a little different because Mark was out of it at the time and Justin still has a chance at winning the green jacket. But I guarantee if Fucci and Justin... Even though Justin might have had his heart just ripped out, he was... If you're going to lose, you want to lose to Rory, who's going for the Grand Slam. And only two people in the world get to be a part of that moment, and you're

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one of them. And he said that. He's like, I lost, but that was pretty amazing that I got to be a part of that 11-year journey. Everyone's been sort of thinking about it. The whole world has been rooting for it. But that Leishman moment, that was also... An Australian had never won Augusta. And every Australian, if they couldn't win it, wanted... someone to win it of course and still only one is one

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I want to talk about Shane Lowry's interview Saturday after the round yeah all time God I love him I mean I love him more and more

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every time he talks he's so good speaking of being authentic he's probably no more authentic person than Larry

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I heard his response but I really didn't hear the questions

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he's like I know you're gonna sit up here and ask me about Rory but I just fucking you know had a shit finish and I'm gonna say something stupid chance to win the masters I've already said something stupid I'm just gonna leave he said a lot more than that too but it was it was spot on the only thing I didn't really like was him bringing up Morikawa because those two give off way different energy like Shane and Colin Colin came across as whiny kind of I'm taking my ball and going home Shane comes across as yeah

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I didn't watch much of the carriage by the way I love Morikawa this week Okay. At Hilton Head. Oh, yeah. All right. But pre-picks, maybe it was after the first round, but Chamblee was like, I had on my board, you know, they do all their, everything's going to win. He's like, I had Larry as almost number one. Yeah, I did too. I don't know what the stats brought up, but it's like, he's also got heaps of balls. He's a fucking... he's been

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playing good this year of course history is not bad there you know

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like Tyrell Hatton's that took about his full pivot like the live characters going to live he is a huge character on the PGA Tour Shane Larry like he is the Tyrell Hatton of the tour like he's not throwing clubs and that but he's larger than life wears his heart on his sleeves

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you brought up Shane Lee I really only watched live from one round after the round on Thursday and he made me so mad but at the same time the sucker's right dude he is He argues with, I mean, poor Rich Lerner's just taking it. Like, dude, all I did

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was bring something up. I'm a mediator. What are you talking about? Come on, chill. But he called it with Rory. I've got plenty of friends that hate Chamblee, and I'm like, I get it. But if Chamblee was to go, okay, I'm quitting the golf industry. I'm going to go and have a sabbatical and just go live in Sedona for five years and not talk to anyone. it'd be pretty, the golf channel would be freaking empty. I agree. He is the full glue there. And whatever they pay him, I just don't think it works. I like McGinley too, because they butt heads. McGinley came out and said something about Rory, apparently, and everyone in Ireland is like furious. He said like, Rory's not everyone's cup of tea. But he's right, because two years ago, when the live this, oh, we should join, no, we should join fourth, he was going back and forth, which you said is okay, and I think it is okay. But he's not everyone's cup of tea. He is now in favor, which is good I'm not but everyone in Ireland is like fucking wanting to hang Paul McGinley for it I think McGinley's fantastic I think

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McGinley's good because of Brandel

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a

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lot because of Brandel yeah yeah like I'm not Brandel's like regardless if you like him as a human or not like the job he does is It's not with that research. Do you have more respect for what he's doing now? Yes, because of what I'm doing now. Yeah, for sure. Getting behind a camera and talking into a lens is weird enough. And then you have to just expand on your thoughts live. That guy never misses, dude.

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And he articulates. You know he's got a light script, but he's not like... It's very light. He hasn't sat there for four hours like a politician. Not at all. He's just got this brain of retention, of freaking stats. and information Ewan Porter's another one that's amazing at this shit can retain a stat from like 1994 and just pull it from fucking some hair follicle back in I'm not gonna

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name names but you just watch like the morning coverage of the Masters on the same channel versus after on the same channel. It's a different show. You know who was

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good? I don't think he does it anymore. Duvall. He doesn't do it anymore. No, he doesn't. He was really good. Didn't say much, but would go against. The team they had between

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Knoblo, Duvall, and Shambly was the best. And you knew McGinley. There's your four. There's your Rushmore. I don't know if you

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knew. He doesn't do much for me. I know Knoblo replaced Vern there in the booth. I can't say I really remember much of his calls.

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Yeah, last week? Yeah. I don't either.

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I mean, I love Nobolo on live from. He's perfect for that.

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The best, yeah. I think that's his better role. I don't know. I've actually, like, never met Frank at all. Really? A-plus. Huge fan. But, yeah, I've never, you know, I've had a bit to do with IBF and that, but I don't know. I want to. He seems like a

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legend. Is he involved with that wine?

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Yeah. Nobolo wine?

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Yeah. I don't know. Isn't it Marlboro?

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Oh, Marlboro's a region. Yeah. No, he's not involved with the region. That's a

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huge region. My wife tried to pronounce it Nabilo, and I'm like, no, it's Nablo. That's your wife. Frank Sauvignon Blanc

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over there. Your wife must be. That's the French one. She must be drinking the French version. I

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want to go back to what Brandel said, though, and he nailed it. He said, after Rory didn't miss a shot on Thursday and had two hiccups, He's like, I guarantee you, sitting in his room right now going, I'm only four back. Rosie set the pace a little too high. He's probably going to come back. So I've just got to chase the guys that are a couple shots ahead of me. And he was dead

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on. There was people riding Rory off after those two doubles. That motherfucker had the solo lead 20 holes later. 20 holes

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later. That was another record. Only one to win the Masters with four doubles. What a flex.

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What a flex that is. I made four doubles and still beat everyone in this field.

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That's got to do something for him going forward, just

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the confidence. I agree. I agree. It has to. He

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already had his weird family life moment. It can go either way. I mean, don't you think he already had his weird family

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life moment? You think he could go, I've done it all, now I'm just easing off the

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gas? So you've achieved your... And this is where my own thing, like I... Whatever. I wanted to play on the PGA Tour. I did that and then I didn't do well. But I always joked I wanted to win a PGA Tour event. If you're really good, that's a very, very slow goal. Some people would say, oh, you're fucking on crack. That's a high goal. But Justin Thomas and Rory, they weren't at 12 years old trying to win a tour event. They were like on the putting ground. You don't have putting competitions with all the other juniors. They were like, this is to win the Grand Slam. I'm telling you, post-Tiger, it was the norm to not just win a tour event or a major. It's like, I want to win all four. Like, everyone went up. So maybe you see it with some guys, you can tell, and I'm not going to mention any names here, but they've been winning tour events, tour events, and win a major, and like, oh my God, he's going to win five. he barely even wins a tournament every year because that's like the white dress moment and not to talk about women but the whole thing they play with dolls let's talk about them I love women this is going to be crazy and people are going to fucking go what is Aaron the postpartum thing I'm not a doctor but if you think about women when they're young they play with dolls right and it's all about kids but then they have a kid and I couldn't imagine pumping a kid out like that's euphoric I watched it from the non-construction zone I watched it from up near the head.

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Can't hurt more than

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a sore throat. Oh, bullshit. Can you imagine that? That's got to be bigger than winning the 100 meters at the freaking Olympics. So what else do you have to achieve from here? I can understand how it's a little deflating.

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Wait, so Rory just reached the peak of Everest and looked around and he's like, yeah. Did

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you see the relief that came off of him too? I mean, obviously in the celebration. Walk around the locker room. See, my argument to that would be he's so talented. Yeah, he is. And the mental side of it. has always been a block for him in my eyes. Like, like his ceiling is so much higher than any of the other guys out there. It really is. When his stuff is, is, is perfect and everyone else's stuff is perfect. Roy's best. Yeah. He's

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just now realizing his potential at how old is he?

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And do you not think there's going to be some weeks where like he rolls in and feels better? Damn near bulletproof. Like going against Bryson again? I mean, after that

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performance? Maybe Bryson lives. That's the good thing with golf. There's just swings and roundabouts every hole, not every round. So it is a good thing. But I'm saying like... Small chance. I'm not saying 50-50 Rory doesn't win another major. No, of course not. The guy's, he is, he's a LeBron. He's bigger and stronger and

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better. He's 35 years

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old

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and Phil didn't win his first until he was 34. That's kind of always been my barometer. Same with like Vijay not winning a major until he was what, like 39 or 42 or something like that. That's crazy. So,

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a lot of golf left. And if you, you know, now the long, Dr. Travis is in here, you can measure how old you are like longevity wise. Rory's probably not in 35 he's probably like 29 like his body and shit like he's he's fucking way ahead so he could do this for yeah rory 15 years yeah oh

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yeah oh yeah i mean hyper mobile tons of speed he's he's like this guy's i'd be shocked if he doesn't win like two of the next three majors

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i like that quail hollows freaking on a team

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he's gonna be on everybody's board Oh, yeah. Fuck. It's changed the Scotty Scheffler. Oh, my gosh. Well, Scotty's... Not talk, what's the word, but everyone's like, oh, Scheffler's been such a hot favorite. He's been a little

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different this year. His demeanor has been different this year. He's been getting pissed off more. Yes, big time. Way, way more... So that was when you had kids. Right. Dude, it's true. It's a

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real thing. Absolutely. Life just hit Scotty Scheffler. And maybe Phil, that's exactly what he saw. Mm-hmm. Is that,

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hey, you're getting a little pissed off. Look, I mean, It's a sore subject. It's tough to talk about because it's a beautiful thing in life when you welcome in a child to your family. You can go both ways. But it's a real thing out there. Your priorities change. He's a convicted felon.

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Not convicted. He was arrested. I just watched that part of the Netflix thing. Have you

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ran through the whole Netflix?

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Not all of them. I'm on, like, episode four. I'm on the one with Lowry and McElroy. It's just speaking like that guy's so authentic. And even though a lot of those guys get interviewed, you know, pretending they're leading up to the tournament when it was, like, six months prior, he's still very good. But that Sheffler thing, he didn't even tell... like these riding down then I guess the guy gets a call he's like oh man you're like a really good player Sheffield's like I'm playing in the tournament but not one time was he like you do know who I am I'm the best fucking golfer in the world of course he's not gonna say that by a country mile get the fuck off me like I was like it was pretty good

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yeah I like that you don't have to watch that Netflix series in succession you can just pick and choose whichever episode but I need to watch episode 6 we got Camilo Villegas is on there talking about Mia's Miracles and um that's that one tug at your heartstrings right there but i have to fast forward through that one there's enough uh enough pollen in the air there in augusta last week and it was um a lot

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of tears but you're talking about rory and the relief i always thought that's an underrated part of a golfer's journey is when they win i think the euphoria is more relief it's like i haven't I thought about this every night or every morning, and I never got there. I won one corn fairy event. But flying home on a red-eye by myself, I only felt one thing, and it was relief. It was almost like way less euphoric than I thought, and it was just good to know that, hey, I am on the path. But Rory's different, 11 years, and it's a euphemism, the more struggle, the more euphoria. Yeah. What

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do you

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think

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Rory's old cat, J.P. McManus, his old caddy that he lost? J.P.

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Manus is the...

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Is he the manager?

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No, he's the rich Irish guy.

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Oh, yeah, you're right. What was his old caddy's name that he lost Augusta with?

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Yeah, I don't know. He was still caddy for a few guys. I haven't seen him lately.

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Because they kept rerunning... you know, the clip on the 10th hole when he was over there hanging out in the cabins. What's his

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name? I'm digging around. I mean, he did slay his dragon.

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J.P. Fitzgerald.

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J.P. Fitzgerald. That was close.

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But that's a big topic too. Everyone's like, you know, for years, oh, Rory's hired his friend. And I'm like, people... I don't think people inside the circle talk about it because the player caddy dynamic is a zero and it's a hundred. It's whatever the player, not the caddy, the player wants. Now... Grella in that are you know writing novels every hole and then you've got guys like Kirky who's like you know I don't need like when I was injured in Hawaii when I broke my rib he's like just get some guy out of the crowd I don't care right like Kirky doesn't care like he I don't know I'm not taking away from his current caddy um but He would let anyone. He's going to do it all himself. And Rory does it all himself, but I don't think he's... And there's a lot of guys that do that out there. They want companionship. Yes.

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They

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want someone

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to talk to about... A lot of guys look... Soccer. Yes. Football. Look, you're spending more time with that guy than your wife. I mean, I'm dead serious. This guy... Work family. This guy probably knows you better than your wife. Most of the time, if you've been with him for a long time. I wanted someone that wasn't going to annoy me. That was number one... looking for a caddy. Obviously, you can't be a complete dipshit, but I want someone where if I look at you, I don't get annoyed. You're not going to say some dumb shit that's going to annoy me. You're not going to help me with my golf. There's no way. Nobody knows my stuff better than me, and that's the case for every one of those guys out there. Nobody knows their stuff better than themselves, but I have noticed since I've started doing the TV, it's out of control how involved caddies are now out here. And I, and I applaud, I applaud Rory for having accountability and taking stuff into his own hands. You want to throw shit at Harry for me, gas and tournaments. Uh, that's on me. Like I'm the one hitting the shots and he is at the end of the day, the one hitting the shots.

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And I truly think like without going too extreme, if it's 180 yards and it's downwind and he pulls out a seven on Harry's going to be like, Hey, but I think Rory, isn't making bad decisions like a lot of times with short lines he would air mail the green i don't think it's because he was hitting a pitching wedge instead of a gap wedge he just used to get juiced up and fucking it was a flaw it was also it would just go through the air yeah so i don't know i always thought those things when people said oh oh it's because he's got his buddy k i was like you don't understand that could be helping him dude you have no idea so But there was the accusation that those two were, did you ever see those accusations? What do you read in like Grocery Store Magazine? No, no, no. Tom Panese's ex-wife went feral on Twitter. I won't even mention it. That's not true either. Of course not, but I thought it was funny. Well,

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at least none of us took a leak in Race Creek this past week. What the heck? How in the wide world of sports does that

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cross your mind? First of all, the upside down letter hat is enough to get you kicked off the property in my eyes. But then taking a piss in Rays Creek. Come on, man. We got to ban everyone from ASU at Augusta National coming back because that is some low rent

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shit. I mean, there's portalettes out there, aren't

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there? Right on the left side. There's a bathroom right off the left side of 13. But I mean, just what are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing wearing that hat, too?

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Yeah. I think that's fine. I don't like it. Kids. I didn't realize that it actually is a rule, even for spectators or let's go with patrons, that you can't wear your hat backwards. At Augusta? Yeah, you can't run. You can't wear your hat backwards. I didn't know that was a

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rule. Can't call them spectators either. I think you can smoke. Because I definitely bummed a heater from Derek a few years back. Y'all were hitting on Nate and we were up there. I

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do think it's a crazy tournament that it's the only freaking sporting event that has$5 beers and$3 egg salads. But it's also like, yeah, but you do know if you have 12 of these and you start acting like a knob, you're out for 10 years. So it's like self-policing. It's fantastic. The

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no phones is... It's everything. A

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lot of people talk about this year. How cool is that? That's never going to be broken.

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It's just the best. It's the same with concerts. With that Jack White concert. I feel like more tour events should try and do that.

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Yeah. They're relying on spectators for content, but the content is the course and the players.

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But I don't think people realize it, and me being... one with a handout like you need that you need to be forced to be not have your phone for five or six hours it's just especially in today's world where everything's coming out your emails at midnight and all this other shit it's just We need that. I feel like the Jewish religion, the devouts on Saturdays get away from it. Cut off technology. If we ever have an apocalypse, that religion is going to be doing much better. I'll start doing that as soon as you start. Much better

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than the millennials. I saw a really cool idea. This guy went out and handed out... uh, what do you call it? The disposable cameras handed out like a dozen of them to people walking in. He's like, just come find me after you're leaving and put it in this receptacle. I'm going to go develop them. Turns out some of the coolest content. I mean, just old school click Kodak, wind it up.

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I think that's all Kodak's got going one week a year. They sell cameras at the masters cause they didn't buy into the, uh, to whatever the iPhone was coming out with. But

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what are you doing with all these pictures on your phone if you aren't going to go to

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the label? I am, not to go down a rabbit hole, yeah, of course. Everyone's got, look at your phone, that's a good experiment. I bet everyone's got like 16,000 pictures and you probably look at the ones that your mom took in your photo album more. Jim Gaffigan said, I've

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got more pictures of my kids than my dad looked at me.

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I love Jim. One of the great clean comedians Jim Gaffigan. That's a good one.

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Just got a couple of hard drives over there.

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But you know what? Thankfully, every now and then, or if you wake up in the morning, your iPhone gives you the memories ones. Yeah. Thank fuck for that, because then you actually do. I like that. I send them to my wife. I'm not a snag. Like the time hop? Sensitive new age guy. I'm not one of those. I'm a snag. But when I do... see one i'll send it to lucy and it's like a really cool moment like she's she's downstairs cooking breakfast i'm laying in bed but yeah anyway it's it's interesting but that that is uh you feel nude like you we have you spectated up there man you probably haven't the last time that you probably played so you have your phone the players and the players wives and the agents they all get their phone they got like a little star sticker on it but um But for the patrons and just regular folks walking around, you feel nude for like the first hour. Maybe it's just me. Then you have a couple of domestics or maybe even an import, a$5 import, maybe even a crow's nest. How many times do you touch

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your back pocket

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for

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your phone? I did get a call from the grounds, from the dudes. Camilo Ramirez, Ty Claggett went up.

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There are phones on property.

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I had to text them my cell phone number. I was like, y'all just call me if you can. They called right before the playoff started.

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Those phones are right near 18C there.

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Yeah. It's hilarious. I mean, that's what you got to do right when you walk in is go grab a chicken biscuit, a Stella, and then start calling every long distance number you can remember in your head.

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It's not a Stella. Just to tell them you're at Augusta? Yeah, exactly. It's an import, not a Stella. Right, right. It's a green cup. How dare you advertise at the Masters? No free rides here. But it is going to be a cool season.

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How the hell

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I was thinking about this on Sunday– How the hell are you supposed to call Goff this week after last week? Yeah, what a... Like... Yeah, I don't

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know. Is it an elevator, man? Is it still 70 guys again?

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It's tiny. It might not be 70, but it's not... They've

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got to get away with this shit. I've thought about this. Having cuts produces... a lower score like whoever finishes 10th I don't know if you could ever like put this into an equation maybe grok but if you have 70 man events the person that finishes 10th if there's a cut I think it's like 2 or 3 shots better cuts just make people do better shit I don't know. I don't know.

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Yeah, and you also feel like, hey, you make it on the number. Now you've got a real opportunity.

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I also think sometimes players, too, like those 70, if you're not on a good week, missing a cut is not always... We've talked about this. It's not always bad. Totally agree. Saturday, Sunday, first off, and your shit is just... Double miss. There's nothing

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worse than being in one of those small fields. Never been in one. And playing. I have. And you get off to a bad start and it's just fucked. It's almost impossible to make up any ground. I was a big fan. You're talking about the cuts, the MDFs. Remember, they did away with those. Amazing. But, like, after Saturday, they threw in another cut if too many guys, you know, made the cut and they needed to chop it for TV going

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into Sunday. Yeah, made cut but did not finish.

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Yeah, best ever. I mean, because that... What did they do away with that? I don't know, but that was, like... Such a bonus. If you played like absolute trash on Saturday, you didn't have to go slum it off the back on Sunday.

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I do think there was, you know, let's just call them the 125 guys, which, of course, I sympathize with. But if they were like... You know, if it was only like four under to get to 30th, you know, there's a big difference in the FedEx points. A couple of those years, the points, you were so heavily over-rewarded for finishing between 15th and 35th. Remember one year, Spencer Levine finished 20th every week and he was so high on points. You know, it took him a few years to get that out. That's probably why they stopped it. It's because if you were 65th, you could shoot seven under and fucking like 25th was such enormous points.

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Were there any pace of play... problems. This, I saw that Augusta there is every, every year about, you know, banning aim point from the drive chip. But

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yeah, please for the rest of golf, do it Fred. Cause nobody else is, uh, that would, that would be amazing. It'd be the best thing Augusta nationals ever done to grow the game. You get, yes. It'd be better than the drive pitch and putt itself is banning him and point.

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Yeah. You get hot on the YouTube golfers and the player caddy talks.

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Yeah. I'm gonna ride these junior golfers too. Are you

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kidding me? I On the pace of play is the field size. That gets me fucking infuriated. Oh, it's because there's too many in the field. That's why pace of play is slow. No, it's horse crap. No, Augusta has 90 people and it takes five and a half hours. And it's not, look, it is windy and it's, of course, I never played the course and I understand it's fucking impossible. But if you had 90 Ludwig, or if you had a bunch of Ludwigs, Matt Joneses, Matt Everys, they'd be playing in four hours. No worries. Right? It's only... one thing that dictates slow play and that is still the same answer slow players you know you do get the odd crate like if it's blowing like 25 at augusta it didn't blow more than five at augusta this week a little bit but it's no you're right it's only slow players yeah and it's aim point it's all that

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i'm not It's the most selfish act in professional golf because the slow players, this isn't news to them. They've been slow their whole life, and nothing's changing. And then the guys that speed up, all that does, the way the rules are right now, all you're doing by speeding up is allowing that slow player to take your extra time. So it really does you no good. At

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some stage, I don't know. I

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actually thought about this on Sunday with the– just how polar opposites Bryson and Rory are, especially the way they approach hitting the golf ball. I thought Rory, obviously, he didn't want to get into head games early because he's focused on his own stuff and trying to win the Grand Slam. But if he wanted to, and if this was a different situation and it was Bryson and Rory for a regular title, right? Roy should have thrown that thing in freaking reverse on the first hole and slowed down as much as he could, get on the clock, because then that ruffles the slow player. That's the only way to ruffle a slow player is to slow down your routine. But it is. It's true. You have to do it. You have to slow down. Whatever that is, whether it's going to the bathroom, tying your shoes, talking to your caddy a little longer, but you have to do it in order for that slow clock. to mess up his stuff you gotta you gotta slow your stuff down it has to happen super

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early we saw it the week before and we've been on hiatus for so long but like is it is it toasty toasty toasty yeah he was like getting frustrated immediately I haven't watched much of it but I guess Minwu is quite slow

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yeah and I'm obsessed with toasty obsessed

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but what did he say we went to the bathroom made a sandwich

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yeah I'm trying to yeah I prepared myself a drink

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don't you think stuff like that is great for golf yes the tour tries to hide it but i'm like i understand they got corporate sponsors and we've talked about this i just want to i but the tour needs to like Show that more. They

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need Toasty Bat. We need a villain. We don't have one. Like, not even

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close. And he wasn't even the villain.

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And I don't mean villain in a bad way. Right? That guy needs... Which is

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somebody that calls out the

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other guy's shit. He's a needler. He'll needle, you know, like, yeah.

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Before we go... Go ahead. Off topic. Okay. I'll go. Keep going. I'm bringing this back. No, no, no. Like, villains. Like, what's the baseball's name? Bauer? Trevor Bauer. How is that going on back in the major leagues? I don't get it either. He's now playing in Tokyo. He's got a shadow ban. But he's done the Bryson. He's putting out tons and tons of content. I don't know the guy, but he seems very likable, which could be false.

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Yeah, exactly. Let's call a timeout here. This is edited stuff we're working with. We're only getting to see the stuff they want us to see.

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Great point. Yeah, true, true. They didn't see him, yeah, just losing their shit on a camera, man. Or a

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rope.

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Or a rope. Whatever. I

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mean, this is shocking to me how many people fall for this crap.

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But he was falsely accused. It came out that the woman was setting him up. There's text messages. Oh, yeah. So what happened? The accusation was a 0.0. It should have been welcomed back. And welcomed back. Walk me back. Is

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that why he lost his job in the base? Initially, yes. There's got to be a lawsuit there for him then. Or has it already been settled or what? Not against her, like against the major leagues.

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But he just said, I'll play for the Yankees for free. You don't have to pay me. And they're like, and no club will take him. And you know how it goes with pitching staff. Week one, like four pitches go down. And they're digging up people who are playing golf on celebrity games. freaking golf tours to come back and pitch and he's not I don't sorry to just completely change topic but is he as good I need someone in the baseball industry to DM me and just say hey this is the reason I won't repeat it on air but there's got to be something and it's keeping me up at night

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we'll get Daniel Murphy on here

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anyone we need

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to get Murphy in here

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Let's talk some baseball, yeah. Well, we don't have to. We've been crushing this one today. Kids baseball. Y'all got any youth tournaments coming up?

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When don't we? Yeah. Playing for a ring. I love the Jacksonville ones all day because you can drop them off and then one of the other parents can bring them home. I'm a community guy. But when one kid is supposed to be in Ormond Beach and the other kid's supposed to be in Panama, I only have two kids. A lot of these families have... I think there's some kids on these teams that have... Four boys. I don't know what planet or if they're using Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin to get to tournaments, but I don't know how they're doing it. Speaking of that, what a shame. What the hell was that? Success what? That Blue Origin thing. Was that just to test Botox in space? I don't know what it was. That tagline's been used, but all of them have these perfect makeup on. Their freaking foreheads are not moving. A bunch of hotties, don't worry about that. Could have shook out different.

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I need to, oh, yeah, really good. Yeah, the way things are going.

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Market reset. Yes. That wouldn't have been good with the tariffs. Should we talk tariffs? No, let's not. Yeah, everybody's

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going to be impacted by that. Jeez.

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Yeah, you guys too. LFG,

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that's

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a real

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deal. Well, we're looking for a lot of clarity from our vendors overseas, and it's kind of crushing to a small business. And I try to think of the exposure we have versus a bigger brand that has millions of dollars on order that's going to be coming in. They're going to have to eat it. So we can kind of sit back and see how it shakes out. I don't think it's going to shake out too well, but there will be some price hikes coming along.

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I'm optimistic that this is all really funneled towards one country. Oh, yeah. It's payback. I'm not sure if you guys are using that country, but... A lot of people, I feel like a lot of textiles have moved away from there, like a lot of other Southeast Asian countries and India. So I feel like you don't see that much golf apparel in China. Well, just because we might buy it

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from them, it might not be shipped from them. There's ways to get products here without having to pay the bridge man. But, yeah, I don't know. It sucks. It sucks.

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It's not over. Not over yet. A lot of golf left. A lot of golf left. Matt did say that he was thinking about voting left next time. Yeah, these tariffs. Unbelievable. Australia has an election in about three weeks, by the way. May. I haven't followed it much. Who are we choosing between? Well, Albanese is the left guy, and he's left. But I will say the left in Australia are not. We don't seem to have the... Craig Cray, 1%. Purple hair left. Like, hey, let's let all the men play women's sports. That doesn't fly in Australia. So the left aren't as bad there. And then the Republican guy is Peter Dutton. I will say he's... You know, a lot of people over here just vote on... charisma and looks yeah he's not helping himself in the department he's uh i look pretty good standing next to him let's just say that he's not a great looking man but we'll see he's he's the same he's free speech and i don't know but thankfully i've tuned out of the politics a lot if you went if

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you went back home could you run for office

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um yeah i think so i don't know

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like oh he learned a lot over there in america

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I would I weirdly wouldn't mind doing it but I wouldn't really have I wouldn't have a party like I you can't win in the middle I think like in Australia a lot of the stuff the left does I'm two thumbs up for sure I don't know if it could be done here because we have you know 12x the population like the whole gun thing not to go deep here Australians like get all mad at oh America and their guns it's like comparing an apple to a front door like Australia had hardly any guns 200 years of history didn't have the right to bear arms all that stuff and they banned it and you know you couldn't do that if you did that in america i joke i wouldn't even pack my house up i would leave the country because all the bad people wouldn't hand their guns over like they're too far down to i would not they could restrict it of course they could but doing a whole like banning guns that's like the dumbest thing ever so i feel like a lot of australians do get on their high horse um about american politics and they don't really understand it not saying that I know Australian politics that well, I don't, but I live here, I take an interest in it, and trying to have an opinion from 12,000 kilometres away is a bit crazy.

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Sorry to let that veer off into Australian politics. But, hey, we haven't been doing this lately. I'm sure we've dropped in the polls over there in Australia outside of the top ten.

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People have been freaking out over there, actually. We need to get back in. I think there's been a few people quit their jobs. Yeah, they're like, what's going on? People that drive for a living have just had no content. The world's

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falling apart.

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But he's going to be back. But I have asked Scott, I'm putting him on the pump here to try and get a bit more regular, try and do some remote. So we've got to...

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Yeah, we'll make a commitment to cranking these out. All right, one more before we get out. You like who this week?

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I like Burger this week. You like Burger this week. Burger and Bud Collie. And Tom Hoagie. Wow. I'm not going to give you all.

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Three great

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dudes. But they're also like 50 to 1 or worse. There's

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some nice juice in there. If you got Burger and Bud in the final group, two guys that... You know, I suck and I was never even injured, but I could only imagine the thoughts that go through your head when you're injured for that long. We both had multiple years out. That's pretty cool to come back.

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Yeah, it's been fun to watch Bud's comeback here. I think he's got a breakthrough at some point. It might be this week. You know what's crazy?

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Bud's 35. I still feel like Bud's 28. I feel that way about Jordan Spieth. He will always be a kid to me. Always.

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None of them except Bud. I train with Bud heaps. We did with Franck and that. And he just, to me, I look at Bud and I still think he's like younger than Cam Smith. Yet he's five years, four years older. It's crazy. But I'm very, very pumped with that. That little dude is freaking healthy. Has as much juice as he had before the injuries. It's awesome.

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Yeah.

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All right. All right, fellas. Thanks. We'll see

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you. See you.