Unlocking Spiritual Power Through Science: The Qi Blanco Journey

In this conversation, Makhosi, Christian, and Ana delve into the fascinating intersection of science and spirituality, particularly through the lens of Chi Blanco technology. They discuss how understanding water's role in our bodies can enhance our consciousness and well-being. The importance of intuition in entrepreneurship, overcoming limiting beliefs, and the necessity of delegation in business are also explored. The duo emphasizes maintaining a heart-centered approach in their business practices and shares their vision for the future, which includes supporting humanity's evolution and healing in the wake of collective trauma from the pandemic.

Takeaways

• The intersection of science and spirituality can enhance well-being.
• Chi Blanco technology aims to improve the connection between water and consciousness.
• Intuition plays a crucial role in entrepreneurial decision-making.
• Overcoming limiting beliefs is essential for personal and business growth.
• Delegation is key to reducing stress and improving business efficiency.
• Understanding team dynamics is vital for a harmonious work environment.
• Maintaining a heart-centered approach is crucial for business integrity.
• Meditation and intuition guide business decisions at Chi Blanco.
• The future vision includes supporting humanity's evolution and healing.
• Collective trauma from the pandemic requires a new approach to business and life.

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction and Exploring the Intersection of Science and Spirituality
• 1:11 Understanding Chiblanco and the Power of Water for Wellbeing
• 9:26 The Role of Intuition in Decision-Making
• 25:48 Staying Heart-Centered in Business and Decision-Making
• 37:40 The Vision of Chiblanco: Supporting Humanity's Soul Development

Transcript

Makhosi (00:02.443)
Welcome back to Euphoric Evolution. Today I'm here with Christian and Ana of Chi Blanco. And I'm really excited, mainly because I told my team, you know, I want to get into more science, more tech. I want to explore some of the intersection between science and spirituality and how these things really come together. I see that there's this beautiful marriage coming through. And so,

I'm very excited to have the two of you here because you are my first guests in this realm. So welcome so much. How are both of you doing?

Christian Bernd (00:43.434)
Hey, thank you for the invitation. Thank you a lot for the invitation and beautiful introduction. Thank you. Thank you.

Makhosi (00:49.451)
Thank you. Well, I want to start with where did the idea, well, first, can you really explain in simple, we are not engineers terms, what is, what is Chiblanco and how does it, how does it support wellbeing?

Christian Bernd (01:02.506)
Hehehe

I try it as easy as possible. From the background, I'm a mechanical engineer, but I also have a deep dive into the spiritual realm. For me, I did a three years training. You could call it in English maybe like a psychic. Also like a mind healer that was called when I did my training in Berlin. For me, it was always fascinating to put both together to understand like, okay, in Germany, you always say this is this

is the theory of the stuff nobody can believe in. It's all about believing into it, otherwise it works not. And I wanted to know what's the true science behind it. And so that's what I made my mission to bring both realms together. So I loved really your introduction because this is my favorite topic that the marriage about scientific and the future of the spirality and to keep it short.

The research we did showed that the water molecule in us, like we are made at least about at 70 % water. If you would count the molecules, the amount of molecules, and compare to other molecules, you even can say it's more than 90 to 95 % of everything. So simply said, we could say we are migrating water.

And the beauty about this is, as Professor Dr. Pollack, he's from the US and Professor Dr. Warnke is from Germany, showed us that there's a fascinating state it's called, in English you are saying that like easy water. In Germany we call it more coherent water. And it's about a state that the water can reach where it's like more, has more electronic voltage and it has a different angle structure. So really interesting facts, but the

Christian Bernd (03:04.357)
Interesting spiritual fact is, and that was what was pointing Maanke out, is from the quantum mechanics. This should be the molecule who is transporting our soul into the body. And that's where it's getting really interesting for spiritual people, like when we say, okay, we are undying soul who are getting reborn after life, after life. How does this process works?

Makhosi (03:21.355)
you

Christian Bernd (03:33.285)
And he said like the water molecules in a Korean structure can jump into the quantum field and come back. And it's really fast like this. And this is the idea behind G Blanco to improve this connection. And that's why when somebody goes on our homepage is like EMF protection, but consciousness improvement. The EMF protection is one thing that Korean water does in our body. But for my point, more interesting thing is like

improving the connection to the center of everything, God, however you want to call it, and get a more better connection to our true self. What leads into higher intuition, deeper meditation, doing better decisions, going into this thing. But I think there you are also expert about being spiritually successful. So

This is what we support with our products to our customers.

Makhosi (04:32.171)
Yeah, hold on one second, okay?

Christian Bernd (04:34.85)
It's...

Makhosi (04:38.923)
Come on in. Come on in. I'm just recording an interview. I'll be right back. No problem.

Christian Bernd (04:43.426)
Is this the album of them?

Makhosi (04:52.235)
back sorry maintenance is here to fix something so we'll have to edit edit out me leaving okay so we were leaving off on this connection between science and spirituality really understanding water from my perspective seeing water as this bridge between spirit and the physical realm essentially

Christian Bernd (04:53.538)
No worries.

Makhosi (05:21.419)
and understanding that because we have so much water in us, we can leverage and utilize our relationship with water in order to better facilitate intuition, enhanced psychic gifts, expansion of meditation, all of these practices that by themselves are really powerful, but essentially supercharging water.

Am I understanding that right?

Christian Bernd (05:52.609)
Supercharging is a beautiful word for that.

Makhosi (05:56.715)
I love that. So I'm, I want to ask a question about going from being an engineer to now entering more esoteric spiritual spaces, right? And you're from Germany. So, what did people think of that? How, like, how were you received in and how did you make that transition?

Christian Bernd (06:15.744)
we have from them.

Thank you.

Christian Bernd (06:27.327)
I mean, the funny fact is like in Germany, I don't really talk about my psychic abilities. So on the German market, we are hardly explaining just the scientific facts. And I always really point sharply out like, what is physics, like Newton physics, quantum physics, when where does like the spiritual realm begins. So like, what is for sure proven?

What is proven but need more research and what maybe will be never be proven. So I'm, you're totally right that I have to point this out really, really strongly, but like that's why I love this podcast. it's, it's for me, for us nice to bring out our true soul and to have an open reflection. Now we're in LA and we'll be walking around and every where we see the signs of psychics. And I made yesterday a podcast with Joshua the choke, like.

these shops would be closed in Germany immediately. So no chance that you could promote this like this. So yeah, it's a really nice possibility for us to live our full potential and to speak in public about this.

Makhosi (07:42.827)
Yeah, so did you move to LA recently?

Christian Bernd (07:45.981)
No, we are like... In the beginning, we first moved to Berlin and then things started. Berlin is a... Well, when you want to set up a company or a new product or a new crazy product like the Gblanco technology, you have to go to Berlin because people will start listening to you.

And this is what happened. And from Berlin, we spread to the world.

Makhosi (08:19.851)
Yeah, yeah, I get that so much.

Christian Bernd (08:21.628)
But we're not living in LA. We choose to do a digital nomad. Our company is 100 % remote. We have a protection unit as a partner, a logistic unit. But the people that are working directly for Treblanko, they are all remotely working. We have people in Bali, in Thailand.

in the US and in Greek. Most of them are German from the nature, but they are living abroad. So we are also from this side a really new kind of way of living and it's really appreciated. So we are always traveling where our spirit calls us. So normally Anna makes the decision like in the meditation, like she says, I feel we have to go LA. And I'm like,

I don't know what we're going to do in LA, but if you think it's the right way, we'll see when we arrive.

Makhosi (09:22.187)
Yeah, and it always works out in really interesting ways. I don't know that you can put that in a scientific experiment, but if you do it enough, eventually you realize, okay, this way works. This intuition thing works. So I'm curious, what role did intuition play in guiding you?

Christian Bernd (09:26.074)
always.

Christian Bernd (09:36.793)
Ha ha ha.

Makhosi (09:50.635)
into the creation or expansion of Chiblanco.

Christian Bernd (09:58.84)
You first. 100%. We are needed like 1000 % by intuition. Of course, sometimes especially when you're setting up a company and we did it without any investors. So we had to take huge risks in saying, okay, let's start a production, putting a lot of money in it, taking credits. And we were not sure if it would pay off in it. To be honest, gave me horrible nights. I was sometimes sweating the hell out of it.

night and I was sweating at night the hell out of me and I was like what and I don't know if we can handle this but I try to keep my frequency as much as I can so literally this state and energy also like no I feel it it will work out it will work out and sometimes it worked out but after a welly of deep suffering and so I think

And Chiblanku was also our greatest, yes, also spiritual and humanity development because it brought us challenges that really pushed us about our own boundaries and our own limiting beliefs, as it's beautifully said in the spiritual realm. Intuition is everything. We are leading Chiblanku with really 100 % by intuition.

And sometimes we make decisions where we are just like, okay, I don't understand this, but we have to do this and this. We will see afterwards. And it everything, everything was just divine guided. You just have to follow your intuition. And trust. Trust. Trust that if you stop half the way, that's going to be painful.

Makhosi (11:52.235)
Yeah, seeing something all the way through to the point where you can actually start to see the change that you wanted to see instead of giving up halfway through when you haven't, you just haven't gotten through the difficult times in order to see the result manifest yet. And I think for entrepreneurs, especially that is, that's the kiss of death, essentially where

Christian Bernd (11:59.9)
Yeah.

Makhosi (12:19.403)
you had intuitive guidance, you started following the intuitive guidance and then it gets challenging or it gets hard. You start doubting yourself, what you're doing, your place in the world, the work that you're doing, everything, and then stop. And then you just start creating stories about how you can't trust yourself, how things never work out. But if you actually see it through, that's when we're able to see.

that transformation happened. I'm also really curious, what are some of the biggest limiting beliefs that each of you had to work through in order to get to this point where essentially you're international, you're global, right? And you're making such incredible impact, but you didn't have that day one and there were certain ways of thinking.

that for sure you could not have brought along with you to this point. What were some of those?

Christian Bernd (13:23.986)
For my personal thing was the value that Chiblanco is bringing into the world. I was not... How should I say? I was not convinced by it. I had to... I went through a massive journey where I... Also, I was struggling with money in the beginning.

because I didn't see the value, the full potential of Gblanco. But...

When you are going this way to uplift your consciousness, to work on your trauma and just connect to your inner self, everything will solve. And for me, it was the value that I bring into the world with GipLango.

And also without. But for me, definitely I am a big fan of fears and worries. So I really live that deepest point where I... Like if I would ask a doctor, maybe he would say I have like anxiety problems. And it was, of course,

everything seemed so big like when you start and saying okay this this this so my to -do list it was like this long and it keep going and going and i'm like man how i'm gonna do that that will never work out and every time every day i felt like you've not did enough it was not enough was not enough not enough not enough not enough not enough and this bring brought me also to a position

Christian Bernd (15:24.242)
where I started to make worse decisions. So I self -destroyed myself on the way. And this was a really interesting feeling for me to see that my own things, things that need to be done and how I should behave also were really limiting and destroying me at the end. So also another thing I always thought I need to do everything by myself.

We were, when we were in Barcelona, she loves the story. I was sitting there and we were literally doing everything by ourselves besides production, but the rest of the marketing and everything. And I was sitting there and it said, I need to code now three days. Please don't speak to me. Otherwise I will forget the code. And I always like when she said like food, I have some food for you. No, no, don't talk to me. So looking backward, it was such a miserable state I was in.

Just because I was surrounded by myself created fears and worries that for sure were not real, but felt really real in that moment. This was the point where I decided it was not a question to Christian. I just said we need employees.

Makhosi (16:44.779)
Period. We do not do it all. This is a lie.

Christian Bernd (16:52.466)
The best decision. Even the first employee brought so much relaxation also back in our daily lives. Of course, she was specialized in what she was doing, so she was even doing it better than me.

Makhosi (17:07.819)
Yeah, that's the trippy part when you finally let go and allow other people to come in and then you realize, I'm horrible at this.

Christian Bernd (17:20.338)
Thank you. Thank you for pointing this out. No, it's really, really, really cool. I love it.

Makhosi (17:24.715)
I'm not even good at this at all. That's always a very interesting moment for your ego to kind of just be checked. Because you think like, I have to be the one to do it. I'm so important in the mission of what I'm doing that I have to have my hands in everything and you finally let it go. So I'm curious, how did you all make that shift into delegating? Like what were some of the

Christian Bernd (17:33.714)
Yes.

Makhosi (17:54.827)
What were some of the ways that you unburdened yourself from some of the things? Like what activities did you take off your plate first?

Christian Bernd (18:05.522)
finance, like, like Texas, you would say better Texas or everything that had to do with Texas. And, and with right, with writing bills and all this illusion of paper creation. And we are from Germany. So like, when I first understood how us is doing their business, I'm like, that can't, that cannot be true. Like if you have in the US, this amount of paper in Germany, it's, it's literally like this.

Makhosi (18:07.435)
Hmm

Hey.

Money had to come on first.

Christian Bernd (18:35.57)
And it's, it's so, it was so relieving because it's an illusion itself Germany created for itself. They think it's needed to, everything needs to be controlled until the last screw. I mean, sometimes if you want to travel to space, maybe that's needed or maybe even not. I don't want to agree on another limiting belief, but for the most cases, it definitely just disturbs the way of humans living.

Makhosi (18:35.595)
Mmm.

Christian Bernd (19:04.85)
So this was tax finance, logistics, social media, the accounts, how they run, what needs to be posted, what not. And the strongest impact, and I'm really thankful for that, was when we met Luca. We met him in Bali. He's the guy who creates all the videos and the advertising. And he's a pure genius.

like if somebody would call me a genius on my field he for sure is one in creating videos and an artist and he's a beautiful artist but that's the beauty also really convinced in in putting his skills into business into bringing also like a value to the humanity not sitting somewhere and just painting

but also he really wants to make sure it's available to a lot of people.

Makhosi (20:03.883)
Yeah, it sounds like you really value your team in really great ways, like so much gratitude.

Christian Bernd (20:08.85)
We love everyone.

We wouldn't be here without the people who are supporting us really. It's not impossible without support. And I mean, if we are a spiritual realm, at the end we are all one. So human experience, no matter how you look at it, but I deeply believe that we are strongly connected. And that's why I also like getting good service and appreciate it.

For me it's really important when we went out in LA for dinner. I was really impressed. I knew it, but I was impressed how good the service is in the US. Even if the waiter has not a good day, he's really trying to do his best and give you great service. And in Germany it's a little bit of a different vibe. And then how you call it, the service desert. Yeah, that's a good...

Makhosi (21:09.611)
the service desert.

Christian Bernd (21:10.994)
That's the frame where the words we use in Germany to talk about that. So appreciating that the people who support you, even if it's just for five minutes, I think it's really important. And thinking in partnership. Employers is a big word because literally we have no employees. We have all our partner contracts. So they have all

I'm independent companies a lot of them work also for other companies. I think it's beautiful to share this together so that it not everything what I say is true. So that they also get inspired by other companies and then other CEOs and so sometimes they also bring good ideas in sometimes my ideas are better. However, I think this is that's the next level I think business should go to.

Because also I worked for the automotive industry and I loved it to be an engineer. But sometimes it felt like a prison to work just for one company. Because if your boss is having a rough moment in his life for three years, you literally cannot be successful because you're living his trauma out. So being there more flexible, I think, would help the whole humanity to bring out a better version of

Makhosi (22:12.363)
Hmm.

Makhosi (22:19.723)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Makhosi (22:32.907)
Yeah. It also, the other benefit, actually there's two main benefits that I find with having team members who work for other companies and in other industries is number one, being able to innovate is so much easier when you are immersed in different industries. You're not in just an echo chamber. Like I'm in the coach, the coaching industry or the spirituality industry, right? And

Sometimes we just do things in a very specific way and because everyone works in the same bubble, everyone is just creating the same offers and the same types of spaces and their messaging starts to sound the same and everything's just the same. But my right hand comes from a background in luxury and I spend a lot of my free time in like the fashion and beauty space just for my own enjoyment.

Christian Bernd (23:08.07)
Mm -hmm.

Makhosi (23:30.795)
we're able to bring ideas that things that we're seeing work well in like fashion and beauty, as well as luxury space, luxury automobiles, et cetera, and then apply those things into coaching and advising, right? Or business coaching or business offers. I created a program last year and a good chunk of it.

Christian Bernd (23:37.382)
Mmm.

Makhosi (23:57.931)
was inspiration from the fashion industry that I applied to branding, which was absolutely incredible. I may have to actually like teach that separately. But the other thing that I noticed too, and maybe you all experienced this, especially as a warrior Christian, is that when you are the person who is solely responsible for someone's entire wellbeing for them and their family,

Christian Bernd (24:04.838)
from the nation.

Makhosi (24:27.211)
That puts a lot of weight if you have to, if you and your company has to make the money to make sure that every single person is able to be paid full time versus knowing like, okay, if we take off with this new project and it doesn't go as planned, at least my team has other companies that they're working with. Now that's not gonna be for everyone, but it does have benefits for everyone if,

Christian Bernd (24:38.566)
Hmm.

Makhosi (24:57.579)
there's more of like, just more flexibility in how we think of a quote unquote job.

Christian Bernd (25:04.547)
Absolutely. And also how the own perspective is there because sometimes you think your boss is bad, but if you meet another one, you understood that he's maybe doing the best as he can and then as the environment, it's possible. So that's what I also what I feel like we get a lot of feedback that like we are the best company.

Makhosi (25:05.899)
Yeah.

Christian Bernd (25:33.731)
everyone works for. This comes also because they can reflect themselves to other companies and get a touch like, how is the pressure there? How is the deadlines? What is the idea behind it? Why they are hosting a company? Sometimes it's just money driven without any spiritual guidelines.

Makhosi (25:47.691)
you

Makhosi (25:54.251)
Yeah, I'm also really nosy and want to know how the two of you navigate working together.

Christian Bernd (26:04.578)
screaming. This was the beginning. This was the beginning. We were only driven by reason, reasoning. But Christian is like, he's very triggering for me. And he even in the beginning, he started to point out that I am a super, super

spiritual being here and super psychic and I didn't want to hear it because back then I was like well, I just I just I just can feel people and their emotions and yeah, I I have just a good sense for people but he was like he pointed it out you are psychic and I Needed to work with it. I needed to sit with it. I needed to accept it and

I needed to practice to trust my intuition first. And well, now eight years later, it was a big challenge for me because I was also in the beginning in the company of Cipanko, this ego thing, who I am, who am I in the company because I'm not an engineer. I can't explain the

this technology in quantum physics, this is not my nature, it's not me. I don't know, I'm the feeling, I'm the heart of Chiblanco. Christian is the head, I'm the heart. And here we are, eight years after. And we needed a massive journey to find out that he's the head and I'm the heart.

So that's, I think we're communicating like this, how the heart and the head is communicating with each other with, we are wives. So at the end we are both feeling what's the future. Sometimes I see that and I'm like, my God, I don't want to hear that. That's such a lot of load work. That's the main thing. So, but after eight years now,

Makhosi (28:02.763)
Hahaha!

Christian Bernd (28:20.51)
we meditate a lot. We really love to meditate. We meditate every Saturday, like six hours. That's our routine. And there we really connect to the quantum field to God, however you want to give it the name. And there everything's the same. So the perfect truth is there's also for company, also for our business decisions. So we try to step into that. And normally then we get the same feeling about the same ideas. And this is how we

how we interact with each other and since then it got really better. Of course, then we also can point out where our personal filters are. Of course, for sure I'm not levitating, so I'm not at the end of my journey. So I still also have filters that are stopping me from seeing the perfect decision. You see I'm from Germany, I love perfect decisions.

And this is how we try it, that everyone gets a personal perspective through the quantum field. And then we like to talk about in coffees or in... In coffees just to brainstorm and sometimes just to change the environment, get out of the house and...

walking around a little bit fresh air, but always, always it's very important for us to be in a coherent environment.

And this is the technology like that you want. We have the two bracelets and also at home, like for the, for the house, for the apartment. And yeah.

Makhosi (30:15.723)
I love that. I love that the difference between the head and the heart and the two of you really complimenting one another instead of, you know, which one is which one is the one on top, which one is the one. But we all know that we all know who's really leading.

Christian Bernd (30:36.347)
I'm going to go to bed.

We had the fights in the beginning really. Our egos were like, yeah, we had a lot of fights, but it's a transformation. It's a transformation in the business. It's a transformation in the relationship. And when you're working together, it's not that simple, but really just never give up, never. When you feel a heart to heart connection, there is...

Makhosi (31:06.667)
Yeah.

Christian Bernd (31:10.681)
always a lesson to learn.

Makhosi (31:14.667)
Yeah. So speaking of the heart, because both of you are heart led, and so the heart is really like the foundation of what you're building and your GPS. So how do the two of you make sure that the business stays heart centered, heart led? What are some of your...

What are some of your boundaries when it's so easy to just do the thing that makes the most money? How do you make decisions that that preserve the integrity of what you originally set out to build and your vision for where you're going?

Christian Bernd (32:03.0)
also the meditation and intuition I would say. Because literally when somebody speaks I can feel where he comes from. So I also said like we had here some several meetings and I said to Anna like I can't feel he just comes from a poor position. He needs money. So if I follow his advice this will not be the right way even if it's well presented and sounds beautiful and nice pictures or whatever but I just feel

But he's coming from a point of poorness. Literally in money and also in his belief structure. So I have to say I do it with my psychic really to understand especially where the others come from. Also when I set up teams, literally when we ask for another person, we get, I don't know, like 100, how do you say, resumes.

Makhosi (32:49.771)
Yeah.

Makhosi (32:59.435)
next.

Christian Bernd (33:02.551)
I don't even look at them. Like I have a good one. She also has a good psychic drive. She slots out like everything besides three. And then I look three at them and only one gets an invitation. And that's like in 99 % of the person who is by accident perfect. Like she or he works then there and her hobbies are here and was not even standing in the resume. So,

I think that's the answer I have with psychic and rooting ourselves in meditation. I think this is the main thing. Meditation is always the base of everything. It's our beginning in the morning, our morning routine. And we don't go without meditating to sleep. So yeah, we are always try to connect to the source of everything or God, when you want to call it like it.

Makhosi (34:02.411)
Yeah, yeah. What I love about that is I think at least here in the US, I can't speak for everywhere in the world, but I will say here in the US especially, we love to keep things separate or think that things are separate. Like, this person has this bad way of thinking or this behavior that is coming from a place of lack.

or is coming from fear or coming from worry or anxiety. And we think that they just leave that at home and then they come into work and there's somebody totally different and they're not. They are bringing themselves with them everywhere they go. And so I'm really glad to have these conversations around consciousness and really becoming aware of

Christian Bernd (34:36.693)
I'm sorry.

Makhosi (34:55.275)
who we are, who we're being, who our teams are being and where some of those things are coming from so that we're better able to understand one another, work with one another because it's not that if somebody is not perfect that we can't work with them, but it is helpful to know and be able to feel like, this person feels very insecure about their role and their importance here.

How do we navigate that, right? Because that manifest and what I find with leaders who haven't developed that level of awareness, they get blindsided often because they're not able to see how they're really showing up in relationships, but also how the people that they're working with are showing up. And it's not just about the what.

Right? This is to your point, Christian. It's not like the data could be good. The presentation could be good. It could make all of the sense in the world. But if you don't understand the energetics or the why behind why people are saying the things that they are, why they're presenting the things, why they're doing certain things, then you find yourself

Christian Bernd (36:05.331)
Mm.

Makhosi (36:23.563)
just creating chaos, chaotic cycles with no control, no ability to influence, and you're just getting blindsided all the time, which is not fun.

Christian Bernd (36:29.166)
Thank you.

Christian Bernd (36:38.222)
You put it in so beautiful phrases. It reminds me about the story. It was this year. I always had like the taxes. I hate taxes and the papers and whatever. So this caused always a lot of problems. So I had a deeper look at it and said like, why, why, why? And for sure it was like my not accepting it that it needs to be done. Like I was not neutral. I was trying to get rid of it completely.

So I had with a good friend, I had a reflection about this and I said, okay, wow, yeah, you're true. This is my blind spot, okay. Integrate, change, should be living, leaves everything. And two hours later, after the session, the person who was responsible for the text paper quit the job.

Makhosi (37:29.931)
Wow.

Christian Bernd (37:30.925)
And I'm like, wow, this creates a lot of stress on me because I need to find someone else. But this is a good sign. This will have the company on the long run. Because I sometimes had the feeling that it's not the right person, but this showed me completely wow. Okay, I was literally inviting the chaos with choosing the wrong person. And looking backwards, she was like just representing my fears and worries in this certain chapter. So I manifested.

Makhosi (37:51.275)
Mm -hmm.

Christian Bernd (38:00.556)
with her together beautiful problems I hated more than a few years and so I'm not blaming her not saying that she is and that's for me was important not saying that she was the problem in another environmental I think she could have done a way more beautiful job but our drama traumas together we made it messed it really up so I was good like in a toxic relationship it's good to split up

Makhosi (38:05.931)
you

Christian Bernd (38:26.668)
Don't point at the finger, get your personal lessons, step out, be grateful for the time, thankful that it's finally over, and step forward.

Makhosi (38:34.763)
you

Makhosi (38:39.275)
Yeah, you know, I come across people often who, and this is not to downplay, that the world right now is experiencing a lot of chaos. And we see a lot of inequality and we see a lot of our corporate companies and our educational systems and our governments.

and on and on and on have all of these problems. And well, it's like, no wonder, because when you have individuals who are walking around unaware with all of this unhealed stuff, and then we're in leadership roles, right? That is going to affect the culture of whatever entity that we're in. And so,

I love doing this work specifically because if we want to see a different world, well, it's not good luck getting our politicians to do some meditation. It would be great. But I don't know that that is going to be as productive as us taking responsibility and creating

Christian Bernd (39:48.938)
You

Makhosi (40:04.075)
companies, creating company culture, creating spaces with our audiences and followings and networks where we can be honest and real and raw about our limiting beliefs, our perception of ourselves, our resistance to things like taxes. That's one of the most common ones that I work with clients through is like,

Christian Bernd (40:33.098)
Good to know.

Makhosi (40:35.371)
I hate taxes so much, Makosy. Like, how can I deal with taxes? I keep manifesting taxes. I'm like, that's great. It means you're making money.

Christian Bernd (40:48.521)
that's a good one. Yeah, it's true. The more taxes, the more money you made.

Makhosi (40:55.819)
Yeah, it comes with it, but often we think like the positive abundance that we want is just gonna come and it's just gonna be the way that we want it. It's just gonna be perfect. No, it comes with responsibility and it comes with certain challenges and getting neutral about something like taxes. And if you can get to a place of gratitude, that is like,

You know, that's even better if you can get to gratitude for taxes, but if you could just get to neutral.

I will cause you what?

Christian Bernd (41:34.808)
If you have a course to get to gratitude to Texas, I'm going to take it. I want to see this wonder by myself.

Makhosi (41:43.435)
I have managed to do that with some clients, get them to the place of being able to be in gratitude. But that's a process, like a major process. Yeah, yeah, it takes some work. That one's not an overnight thing for most people. Yeah.

Christian Bernd (41:52.668)
Of course, like everything.

Christian Bernd (41:59.944)
Yeah.

Yeah. As I always say, if you want to see a change in the world, you have to start with yourself.

Makhosi (42:14.539)
It's true.

Christian Bernd (42:14.696)
It's always like that.

Makhosi (42:18.123)
It is.

Christian Bernd (42:18.568)
hard to accept but it's a poop.

Makhosi (42:23.467)
It is hard to accept and, you know, it's so much more fun to blame everyone else.

Christian Bernd (42:29.352)
Absolutely. Yeah. And we did it a long, long, long time. No, I never blame you. You did. Just kidding.

Makhosi (42:42.923)
Yeah, that's hilarious. So before we wrap up, I really would love to get a feel from you about what the future holds for the two of you and also for G Blanco. Like what is your vision?

Christian Bernd (42:46.055)
No, no.

Christian Bernd (43:03.847)
That's a good one. The vision. The vision is beautiful. A lot of people are in a position where they don't like to be. So the only way to get out of it is to step through the challenges and the fears. And for people who feel the call, we are there to bring in the great support that will always be there.

Sometimes we have good days and we think we don't need help and then we are strong and for sure that's a day where the G1 can step in the background. But there are some days and everyone has it where the world feels like it collapsed. And that's where the beauty of our products come out to stabilize it and to remind the brain there will be

there will be a chance that it will change after night comes day after day comes night. So with Chiblanko we are supporting the humanity in the development of the of the personal soul development to a state and I'm sure it will come. I'm sure that will come that where humanity will step more closely together where we have a deeper respect for everyone.

And therefore a detraumatization is needed. And for everyone who feels so calm, we want to support them as well.

I want humanity. I want to see humanity evolve. And this is where Chiblanco comes in. And it's not that like you put a chain on you and you just become a superhuman. It's how we said everything is a process and you have to take actions. You have to be active. You have to, yeah, some things

Christian Bernd (45:14.439)
or let guide you by your intuition. And with the technology, it will be more or much, much easier.

Makhosi (45:25.195)
I love that so much. I'm with you 100%, especially since the pandemic. We experienced as a human race, a collective trauma. And I think right now what we're seeing is humanity in collective trauma response. Some are in fight, some are in flight, many are in freeze.

Christian Bernd (45:50.565)
Absolutely.

Makhosi (45:54.955)
chronic right now because we're, you know, we're four years out and it's really important that people are able to recognize the impact that that had and also decide on an individual level, but also in the way that we are contributing to us as a whole. What is it that we want to create from here? Because we can't go back.

Christian Bernd (45:59.813)
Hmm.

Makhosi (46:24.875)
We can't go back to how things were to the normal. And thank goodness, because that normal was not working for 99 % of people anyway. So I want to just thank the two of you so much. You are wonderful and doing incredible, beautiful work that is so important. And the approach that the two of you are taking is

Christian Bernd (46:37.925)
Absolutely.

Makhosi (46:54.603)
just such an inspiration for others in that you can create a conscious business that is truly aligned and is an expression of spirit onto this plane. And that when we do that, it can be wins for everyone. It can be wins for you all. It can be win for those who are working with you, for your team.

We don't have to be sacrificing our purpose for profit, that it gets to be a both and experience. And so I just thank both of you so much for being here.

Christian Bernd (47:38.144)
Well said. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Makhosi (47:41.995)
Thank you. I'm going to stop now.