Why You Should Never Judge a House by the Listing: The 5 Things Buyers Miss

 Are listing photos telling you the truth—or just part of it? 👀 

🏡 Episode Summary

Most buyers start their home search online—but the reality is, listings only show part of the picture.

In this episode, Joe and Makayla break down the top 5 things buyers consistently miss when browsing listings, and why those overlooked details can impact everything from pricing strategy to long-term costs.

From days on market and price history to neighborhood context and hidden repair issues, this episode gives buyers a smarter, more strategic way to evaluate homes—especially in today’s Portland real estate market.

If you’ve ever saved a home online and thought “this is the one”—this episode will help you look deeper before making that call.  

⏱️ Episode Highlights

[00:06:00] – Why “Days on Market” Can Be a Hidden Opportunity
Not all long-listed homes are bad deals. Joe explains how today’s average DOM (around 91 days) changes how buyers should interpret demand—and where opportunities exist.

[00:08:20] – What Price History Reveals About Seller Motivation
Multiple price drops aren’t always a red flag. Learn how to read pricing patterns and identify when a seller may be ready to negotiate.

[00:10:25] – The Neighborhood Details Listings Don’t Show
Busy streets, nearby buildings, and overall feel—why driving the area (at different times) is one of the smartest moves buyers can make.

[00:13:30] – Why Photos Can Mislead You on Layout & Flow
Wide angles and photo sequencing can distort reality. Makayla shares why seeing a home in person is still essential.

[00:16:30] – The Hidden Costs That Don’t Show Up Online
Roof, HVAC, sewer lines, electrical—what buyers often miss and why these can become major expenses after closing.

[00:21:10] – The Biggest Dealbreaker You Can’t See: Smell
Smoke, pets, mildew—how scent can instantly change the perception (and value) of a home.

[00:25:10] – Noise, Traffic & What You Won’t Hear in a Listing
From barking dogs to nearby businesses, these real-world factors can’t be captured in photos—but matter daily.

[00:27:40] – Lighting, Orientation & the True “Feel” of a Home
Why direction, natural light, and overall ambiance are impossible to judge online—and critical in person.

👥 Hosts

Joe Reitzug and Makayla Mast are Portland-based real estate professionals helping buyers and sellers navigate the market with clarity and confidence. Through LivPortland, they share honest insights, real-world experience, and practical strategies—so clients can make smarter decisions at every step.

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Transcript

00:00:08:18 - 00:00:28:01

Joe Reitzug

Welcome to Off the Record talking real estate with Joe and Makayla. If you're interested in the Portland, Oregon real estate market and want the unvarnished inside scoop, you've come to the right place. Thanks for giving us a listen. Okay. Welcome, everyone. Thanks for joining us. Hello, Makayla Mast.

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Makayla Mast

Hello Joe Reitzug.  How are you?

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Joe Reitzug

I'm good. How are you?

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Makayla Mast

Doing well. Thank you.

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Joe Reitzug

Good. It's a, another beautiful day in the neighborhood. And we are excited to be here to talk to you about why you should never judge a house by the listing.

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Makayla Mast

Yes.

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Joe Reitzug

Or what? You should definitely look at that you're not going to find in the listing. I don't know which is a better.

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Makayla Mast

Way to describe it, or trying to say, yeah, I don't know either. But we're going to talk about things people should look out for in the listing. Really what we look for first is probably what we're going to suggest. And then we're also going to do a little subsection about to what the listing photos don't tell you, and why it's so important to go in person and to our homes.

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Joe Reitzug

So we've got a great show for you today. We're going to start off with.

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Makayla Mast

Our off the record moment.

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Joe Reitzug

Yes, our off the record moment.

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Joe Reitzug

You go ahead and start today.

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Makayla Mast

Okay. So off the record moment it can be real estate or lifestyle related. Usually I feel like we end up going lifestyle but that's okay.

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah I'm going real estate today though.

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Makayla Mast

Okay I love it. Okay. Yeah. My gripe is with the Girl Scouts.

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Joe Reitzug

The true making enemies, they're not off the record.

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Makayla Mast

They're not out anymore. Where are the cookies?

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Joe Reitzug

I don't want to mess with the Girl Scout. You know.

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Makayla Mast

I'm saying I want more of them.

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Joe Reitzug

Oh, you want more of them?

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Makayla Mast

Yes. Okay. I've only seen one Girl Scout for the whole. Apparently, the season has been happening. I've been. You know, I'm pregnant. I need my cookies right now, okay? I need my sweets. And, I saw my first Girl Scout stand last night. I was so excited. I think I scared them,. It was like they think you're laughing at them.

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Makayla Mast

Knows I'm not laughing at them. I was laughing at myself for being way too excited. And she said, this season they only have one more week.

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Joe Reitzug

Oh my gosh, I know. So you're right. I have not seen, hardly any Girl Scouts this year, so I'm backing you up on that. So in the show notes, we will have Makayla's contact information home address, all you moms out there that are still slingin Girl Scout cookies. Make your way over to Makayla's house.

00:02:43:22 - 00:02:53:23

Makayla Mast

Yes. Bring them on over. Yeah, they were so excited to. They said it's been a it was a slow night. What do you mean? It's raining outside? Yeah, that Fred Meyer. You're having a slow night?

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah, yeah.

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Makayla Mast

It's going on in the world.

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah. No, I get it, I get it, and I have to ask, what's your go to Girl Scout cookie?

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Makayla Mast

Oh, I love it. Thanks for asking. Yeah. Thin Mints for the freezer. Samoas. Right. As I said. And then the peanut butter chocolate ones. Tagalong maybe I don't know. I don't know right over there on the counter if you want some.

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah. The frozen mints are the best.

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Makayla Mast

They are the best with coffee. Oh, that sounds so delicious.

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Joe Reitzug

Yum.

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Makayla Mast

Well, there you go.

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Joe Reitzug

To whatever's in front of me. I have no particular favorite, per se, but I just love them all.

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Makayla Mast

Yeah.

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So my off the record moment is actually about real estate and a little behind the curtain thing for everyone. Our forms that we use or work in real estate forms are endless. There's so many of them, there's a ton of them. And every couple of years or so, they go in and make all these changes.

00:03:58:11 - 00:04:07:22

Joe Reitzug

And for the most part, they do a good job. And, I actually sat on the committee at p ma Portland Metro Association of Realtors years back.

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Makayla Mast

That's awesome.

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Joe Reitzug

Went through that with them. And, it's a whole process that usually makes the forms better for either brokers or clients or both. You know, in the changing society and the way things work now, you just have to make those changes. My beef is with brokers that do not understand these changes, do not take the time to, educate themselves and update themselves.

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Makayla Mast

And yikes.

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Joe Reitzug

I know, and we end up having to educate them on these things, usually in a way that's like, hey, dude, you need to know this because.

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Makayla Mast

It affects, right? Yeah. Oh, my lord, that's.

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Joe Reitzug

Are you with.

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Makayla Mast

Me on this really bad? Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I haven't experienced that, but I that's so disappointing.

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah, yeah, I just have one today and I won't go into the details, but it was like, you know, having to explain it without being condescending was just like, yeah, dude, this is how this works. It's for the benefit of your client. You should probably include that in your offer here.

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Makayla Mast

Wow. Yeah.

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Joe Reitzug

So it is what it is. But that's a big gripe.

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Makayla Mast

Yeah. Fair.

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Joe Reitzug

That's my beef. Okay. Real estate people, stay up on your new dog.

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Makayla Mast

Yeah, yeah. Educate yourself.

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Joe Reitzug

Educate yourself. Yeah. So? So that's where we're at. So let's dive in to our topic today. Makayla I love this. You put this together and send it over to me. And I was like, winner.

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Makayla Mast

Thank you. So nice. Yeah. So we're going to talk about the five things buyers miss when viewing a listing online. And then after that we're going to talk about what listing photos don't tell you. Because there was a lot of things that came to mind. I thought it would be fun to go through. So we're just going to work our way down the list.

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Makayla Mast

Starting with number one, something that buyers miss when reviewing a listing online is the days on market.

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah.

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Makayla Mast

That is probably the first thing I look at when I'm doing a listing.

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Joe Reitzug

I hear from a lot of clients that, oh, that's been on the market for 50 days. And I have to tell them, well, our average days on market right now is 91. So it's fairly new to the market. Yeah. Right. And there's not a lot of buyers in the market right now. So these homes don't get a lot of showings.

00:06:27:08 - 00:06:47:04

Joe Reitzug

And you can find some gems, some wonderful homes that have been on the market 70, 80, 90 plus days. It does indicate demand because there are people out there. And when something really good comes up, they're going to jump on it totally. But just because it has days on the market doesn't mean that it's a bad home, right?

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Makayla Mast

I love that you said that. Yeah. You know, a lot of times I worry when something's on the market for 100 days, but even 100 days isn't really that long. If our average days on market right now is 91. Right. So, you know, you kind of have to consider that just based on the overall market. But it's something that's important to pay attention to it could, you know, signal pricing or condition issues.

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Makayla Mast

And it can create negotiation strategies for you. Of course, if it's been on for a long time.

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah. And, you know, if I were a home buyer right now, you know, Zillow, Redfin, Realtor.com, all of those have their days on market. That is the one piece of information on those aggregators is what they're called. They aggregate the information. They don't produce it. They don't make it. It's just they're aggregating information about what's on the market.

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Joe Reitzug

Right. Those companies that stat is not accurate a lot.

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Makayla Mast

Oh interesting. Yeah okay. Yeah I haven't come across that.

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Joe Reitzug

Well I've had a few people tell me hey I'm interested in this property. It's been on the market for 40 days and I go into less and look at it. And it's like now it's been on 85 days. They took it off for a little while or whatever the case may be. Yeah. You know, you can tell a lot about that.

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Joe Reitzug

And I just said that. Yeah. Days on market doesn't mean that the home is bad or that it's not priced correctly. But if it has been on the market for 91 days, which is the average right now, there is some urgency there probably.

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Makayla Mast

Yeah I agree.

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah. So it is a point of data that you need to look at when you're making your offers.

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Makayla Mast

Yeah, absolutely.

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Joe Reitzug

Number two.

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Makayla Mast

Price.

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Joe Reitzug

History.

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Makayla Mast

Yeah. So pretty similar a lot of times you have to scroll down pretty deep to see price history on these aggregators we're talking about. But that's something that you know as a broker it's a lot easier to see that on the left side. So that's always something we're going to talk about with our clients. And you want to look for a price reductions or multiple price changes.

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Makayla Mast

So price reductions are a bad thing. You know every seller is testing out the market. They're putting their home on at a certain price to see if it'll sell said price. Right. And oftentimes they have to make corrections based on market feedback that they're receiving. That's a good thing. That means that they have intent to sell. Right.

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Makayla Mast

But if they're reducing the price $10,000 every week, it means they're in a big old hurry to get that being sold, I think. And, shows that they're they're motivated and probably likely to work with a buyer on price.

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah, absolutely. I look at price history days on market all the time, every time. And I will also look to see has the home been represented by multiple brokerages? Has it expired? Has it been taken off the market? All of those things. And really that's another like I said with the aggregators, that a lot of times they don't get all that information.

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Joe Reitzug

So it's kind of interesting.

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Makayla Mast

Yeah, I always like to see of how many realtors have been on the list giving it a shot. Yeah. It's always tough when you're looking at the first one and yeah. Sorry buddy.

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah.

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Makayla Mast

Yeah.

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Joe Reitzug

Anyway, I can see all of us.

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Makayla Mast

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, so number three, neighborhood context. So listings rarely. Thank you. They don't show what the neighborhood looks like. Of course, you can go on Google Maps or Google Street View. Sorry. And kind of, you know, move the little icon around to see what it looks like. But likely those are old images. So of course, they're not going to show busy streets, nearby buildings that might not be attractive or what you want commercial buildings, hills, just, you know, things that you might not see without going to tour.

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Joe Reitzug

So yeah, I think getting on Google Maps is a great start. But the ultimate is to go drive by the home, drive the neighborhood to see what you're what you're buying into. Because it's not just the house, it's the neighborhood. It's the location. It's, you know, things that are shown in the listing.

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Makayla Mast

Right?

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Joe Reitzug

Right.

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Makayla Mast

I always tell clients to, of course, you and I know the whole Portland metro area pretty well as well as we can, you know, we get to know it better each neighborhood a little bit better every year. I don't know every single neighborhood like the back of my hand. So if I don't know a neighborhood, well, we'll tell clients to drive by at different points in the day because the morning, you know, feel is different than the early or late afternoon.

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Makayla Mast

And you want to know those things.

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah. Yeah. And I love our clients that like I had one texted me this morning saying, hey, I love this house. I think it might be a great fit. I'm going to go do a drive by to see if I like the neighborhood and the location of the house.

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Makayla Mast

I love that too.

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah, and I was like, you go girl, thank you, I appreciate that. And she got back to me and she was like, oh my gosh. Yeah, it's a great fit. I love this neighborhood. Let's go see it.

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Makayla Mast

So then they're so excited for the showing. That's so cool. Yeah. You know what you're walking into. You know it's funny is some like older clients you have to be a little careful with because they will sometimes think it's appropriate to then just go knock on the door and ask for a tour.

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Joe Reitzug

You know, I do that.

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Makayla Mast

My grandma did this one time. I was so mortified I could not stop apologizing. Of course they were fine, but ultimately they want to sell their home. But that's just not how we do things.

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah, so I had a client one last little story on this item, but I had a client a year or two ago who they love this house. And we were talking about putting an offer in and it back to a school, a pretty big school.

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Makayla Mast

Like a high school, a mentary school.

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Joe Reitzug

A big middle school.

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Makayla Mast

Oh, okay.

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah. Up in Bethany, they were like, yeah, it's no problem, it's no problem. And I said, we've looked at this home twice at 530 and like 630. You know, you work from home. Oh yeah. Maybe you want to see what it feels like at around 230 or 3.

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Makayla Mast

Sure. Right. Yeah.

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Joe Reitzug

And so, we came back the next day at 230 or 3 and it was, bedlam because the busses, they backed up to the school and the busses came through and the whole thing. And it was it was pretty loud. Kids, you know, kids, they're getting out of school. They're like, heck.

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Makayla Mast

Yeah, let's go.

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah, but it lasted ten minutes.

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Makayla Mast

Oh, okay. Yeah.

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Joe Reitzug

Ten minutes. And my client was like, it's not a big deal. In fact, I kind of like it, you know? Yeah, but some people that might be a deal.

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Makayla Mast

Sure, sure. So. Oh. That's funny.

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah. Those are the type of things that you need to take into account. So anyways, be aware. Yes.

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Makayla Mast

Neighborhood context. Very important okay.

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Joe Reitzug

For floor plan and layout. Another good one.

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Makayla Mast

Thing. So this kind of gets into the section we're going to talk about at the end. But I think the floor plan is just you just got to go see it. I'm not a very I'm not one of those people who will sit there and look at the pictures until I figure out the flow. I don't know, that's just not how my brain operates.

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Makayla Mast

I more look at the numbers and the main things right then. I just want to go see it. I want to feel it in person. A lot of our clients will analyze the pictures for hours on end there. And you know the house like the back of their hand. So it's interesting. But even the photos can be very deceiving as to what the floor plan looks like.

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Joe Reitzug

You know, I've been doing this 31 years now, but I think it was like 3 or 4 years ago, 4 or 5 years ago. And you and Stephanie and Laura on our team, where I did the pictures once, which people I don't usually do the pictures. But I did the pictures once, and I remember you guys were like, yeah, thanks.

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Joe Reitzug

We got it from here. And I was like, yeah.

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Makayla Mast

I.

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Joe Reitzug

Picked the best pictures. And Stephanie, my wife looked at me and she's like, can you get them in the right sequence? Maybe Joe and I didn't know what that meant, but, you know, a lot of realtors don't know this. I didn't know it until a few years ago. If you sequence it from front, front of the house, front door, they walk in main level upstairs, you know, do the pictures like an actual walk through that will get a feel.

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Makayla Mast

It's telling the story. A lot of.

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Joe Reitzug

Brokers don't do that. And I notice that all the time now where all of a sudden it's like, oh yeah, they don't know what they're doing with this. That was me a while ago.

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Makayla Mast

Yeah.

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Joe Reitzug

But even that doesn't give you a great feel for the floor plan.

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Makayla Mast

No. And you have to trust that the broker did it the way that we like to do it. You know, and I think obviously everyone wants tall ceilings sometimes. Maybe a photographer was having an off day or they were new or, you know, a seller only wanted to shoot with an iPhone. I don't know, it can be very deceiving.

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Makayla Mast

So you could look at photos and think, oh, the ceilings are low, I know, and then write it off and then never go see it when the ceilings are a normal height, right?

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Joe Reitzug

Yeah. And you know, that's why in person is so important. You know, if, if it has a lot of the things you're looking for, go see it.

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Makayla Mast

Yeah.

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Joe Reitzug

You know not a bad way to go. Great.

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Makayla Mast

We like to see House of.

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Joe Reitzug

I love to see it. I'm going to see a house after this.

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Makayla Mast

Oh, I'm so jealous I wish I could tag along.

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Joe Reitzug

You've got appointments to this.

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Makayla Mast

I do, I do. Oh, sorry.

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Joe Reitzug

I would, you know, I love having you along.

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Makayla Mast

Thank you. Yeah.

00:15:57:14 - 00:15:59:10

Joe Reitzug

And it's been a while since you and.

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Makayla Mast

I has been a really long.

00:16:01:22 - 00:16:06:17

Joe Reitzug

Time. We tried yesterday a listing. Yeah. Didn't quite work out. No. That's okay.

00:16:06:17 - 00:16:07:01

Makayla Mast

Yeah.

00:16:07:06 - 00:16:08:15

Joe Reitzug

Anyways, anyways.

00:16:08:16 - 00:16:27:07

Makayla Mast

Hey, number five, the hidden costs. You cannot possibly see all of the hidden cost by just looking at the listing. Sure, maybe the broker will divulge that the roof is older. I always go to the roof. It's just so important to me.

00:16:27:09 - 00:16:35:01

Joe Reitzug

Roof and gutters. Makayla's the expert. I defer to her on roofing gutter.

00:16:35:03 - 00:16:38:21

Makayla Mast

It's like just in me. Yeah, I just I just know it.

00:16:38:23 - 00:16:41:09

Joe Reitzug

You grew up on a roof. What can I say?

00:16:41:11 - 00:16:51:23

Makayla Mast

Under one thing. God. But, you know, of course, even looking at the house, you're not going to see all of the hidden costs. Those are really going to get to.

00:16:51:23 - 00:16:52:19

Joe Reitzug

See a lot of them.

00:16:52:19 - 00:16:57:23

Makayla Mast

Revealed in the inspection. But you're going to see a lot more than you would just by looking at the listing.

00:16:57:23 - 00:17:05:06

Joe Reitzug

How often do you look at a photo and go, oh, that roof is worn often. Do you? Yeah, yeah.

00:17:05:08 - 00:17:07:15

Makayla Mast

But that's I have an eye for it. Most people don't.

00:17:07:15 - 00:17:28:22

Joe Reitzug

Yeah, but a lot of the times the photo is done in a way where you like, yeah. Who knows. Right. Like the roof, the Hvac, certainly things like sewer lines. And you know, one of the things that brokers get really good at is when every time I drive up to a house now if there are mature trees outside.

00:17:28:22 - 00:17:33:12

Joe Reitzug

Yeah I'm like oh boy. You know, fingers crossed for that sewer scope.

00:17:33:13 - 00:17:36:06

Makayla Mast

How old's the home holds the tree and yeah.

00:17:36:10 - 00:17:50:22

Joe Reitzug

Where's the sewer line. Yeah. And is it a tree currently invading, pushing its roots through that sewer line right. Yeah. Especially on listings. I walk up and I'm like, oh yeah, gut punch. But I mean, what do you say?

00:17:51:01 - 00:17:54:02

Makayla Mast

Hey, hey, we measure sewer. We might be really worried about this.

00:17:54:06 - 00:17:58:21

Joe Reitzug

Yeah, yeah. You got good flow in those toilets. Not a question.

00:17:59:00 - 00:18:01:13

Makayla Mast

No, no. We learn that later.

00:18:01:15 - 00:18:02:03

Joe Reitzug

Yeah.

00:18:02:03 - 00:18:05:08

Makayla Mast

And and that can usually be repaired and negotiated.

00:18:05:08 - 00:18:08:00

Joe Reitzug

But it is a bend etiquette.

00:18:08:00 - 00:18:08:11

Makayla Mast

Sure.

00:18:08:13 - 00:18:18:16

Joe Reitzug

Yeah, sure. Same thing with like old electrical. I own when we look at houses and someone's serious and they like the house. I'll go check out the electrical panel.

00:18:18:17 - 00:18:19:04

Makayla Mast

Oh yeah.

00:18:19:04 - 00:18:40:09

Joe Reitzug

And take a look at it. And we have a handful of clients that do that too. They're like yeah let's just check out the electrical panel. Most don't. But if you open it up and it's old and the tags on it are all, you know, so old that you can't see the last dates that was inspected or whatever, that's a problem.

00:18:40:09 - 00:18:51:04

Joe Reitzug

And that may be. Or if you get one of those, what's the, not louisiana-pacific, but, you know, the old electrical boxes.

00:18:51:06 - 00:18:53:02

Makayla Mast

Sorry, I have no idea.

00:18:53:04 - 00:18:58:12

Joe Reitzug

It's, the name is escaping me right now, but they're old. Some of them, like a.

00:18:58:12 - 00:18:59:23

Makayla Mast

Knob and tube situation.

00:19:00:00 - 00:19:20:03

Joe Reitzug

Exactly. Okay. Yeah. So, like in northeast, you'll see this right in southeast, where a lot of the older homes are, in Portland. And you walk in, you open the electrical panel, and it's like an old knob and tube and a getting insurance on that is really tough. You just don't be replacing.

00:19:20:03 - 00:19:24:18

Makayla Mast

That is a rewire of your whole house. Very expensive.

00:19:24:20 - 00:19:35:22

Joe Reitzug

Sometimes it doesn't need to be a full rewire, but you need to take that panel out and redo. And that leads to all sorts of stuff. So. Right. That's definitely hidden costs that you're only going to be able to see in person.

00:19:36:00 - 00:20:00:20

Makayla Mast

Same once. Did we talk about plumbing itself. Plumbing and electrical are big things to think about. If the home is older than like 1950 I would say, because around that like mid 40s time that we've upgraded materials to where, you know, contractors can't come in and repair those systems without redoing the whole thing. So do you feel like you've developed like a sexy vision?

00:20:00:23 - 00:20:13:07

Makayla Mast

Like, I feel like when I look at a house, I now I feel like I have like x ray goggles. I'm like looking for all these things. Even just walking in my neighborhood, I'm like, God, I hope they get any siding. One day. You know, it's just funny.

00:20:13:09 - 00:20:30:00

Joe Reitzug

Yeah. And when you walk in a house, you can almost get that feeling of by looking around on the interior and, you know, the exterior and just how the home has been taken care of. Yeah, you can pretty much gas whether there's going to be deferred maintenance or not.

00:20:30:03 - 00:20:30:12

Makayla Mast

Oh yeah.

00:20:30:17 - 00:20:39:12

Joe Reitzug

Right. And it's like, you know, you walk into the ones where you like, you know, the spidey senses are going off and you're like, Houston, we got a problem.

00:20:39:12 - 00:20:51:11

Makayla Mast

I know, and then sometimes your client is so excited and you just have to. Yeah, point out the red flags, which isn't the most fun part of the showing, but again, why it is very worth it.

00:20:51:13 - 00:20:51:23

Joe Reitzug

Yeah.

00:20:52:01 - 00:20:59:03

Makayla Mast

Okay, so that wraps of that section are five things we suggest you try to pay attention to. Yeah.

00:20:59:05 - 00:21:01:17

Joe Reitzug

Let's talk about what photos don't show.

00:21:01:17 - 00:21:23:23

Makayla Mast

Yeah, I love this. Okay. So photos do not show so many things but smell mostly negative. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Mostly negative. Yeah, yeah. Smell is well, it could be positive. Maybe the home has a killer smell and it's a selling point for somebody. Yeah, it's rarely ever been the case. Ever. But smells like.

00:21:23:23 - 00:21:44:05

Joe Reitzug

Cinnamon and peaches in there. I want to buy and some. Yeah. So now usually it's they walk in and go, oh, okay. Okay. Wait a second. Someone's been smoking in here for quite a long time or, you know, I've had this happen a couple of different times in the last few years where the owners say, no, we don't smoke in here.

00:21:44:09 - 00:21:47:01

Joe Reitzug

We can't smell anything. And it's like, okay.

00:21:47:03 - 00:21:48:07

Makayla Mast

It's in your pores.

00:21:48:09 - 00:22:00:12

Joe Reitzug

Did the previous owner smell? Why is there a smell of smoke? Yeah, because sometimes, no matter how much painting you do, if someone was smoking in a home for ten years, 20 years, 30 years, it is hard to get that out.

00:22:00:13 - 00:22:01:05

Makayla Mast

Yeah, it.

00:22:01:05 - 00:22:05:22

Joe Reitzug

It's like a specialized service to get that.

00:22:05:22 - 00:22:08:22

Makayla Mast

Out. It's a full guy. I'm sorry.

00:22:09:00 - 00:22:11:09

Joe Reitzug

I don't know if it's a full god, but.

00:22:11:11 - 00:22:12:15

Makayla Mast

It's like I'm so.

00:22:12:15 - 00:22:17:03

Joe Reitzug

Senses serious procedure. Same thing with pets. Sometimes.

00:22:17:04 - 00:22:17:22

Makayla Mast

00:22:18:00 - 00:22:23:03

Joe Reitzug

And I'm sorry for all you cat lovers out there, but cats are ferocious on a house. Sometimes.

00:22:23:03 - 00:22:28:01

Makayla Mast

They are so stinky. Yeah, I know it's. Yeah. Sorry.

00:22:28:02 - 00:22:34:14

Joe Reitzug

We have puppies. Yeah, we're puppy people. And you can scrub out puppy stank.

00:22:34:15 - 00:22:35:18

Makayla Mast

Yes, you can.

00:22:35:20 - 00:22:37:18

Joe Reitzug

But kitty cats, famous.

00:22:38:00 - 00:22:44:16

Makayla Mast

Oh, gosh. Yeah, it's another level. And it's a really hard conversation to have with guys at a listing presentation.

00:22:44:21 - 00:22:45:04

Joe Reitzug

Yeah, it.

00:22:45:04 - 00:22:46:04

Makayla Mast

Is for a walkthrough.

00:22:46:06 - 00:23:07:01

Joe Reitzug

It really is. I was on I, was on one recently where they had, like, animals, on animals, on farm animals, and it was like, boy, yeah, we're going to have to do something here. Luckily, we are professional candle people too. There are candles that can do a pretty darn good job.

00:23:07:01 - 00:23:08:19

Makayla Mast

Pretty close, but not.

00:23:08:20 - 00:23:10:12

Joe Reitzug

Really, really mascot.

00:23:10:14 - 00:23:10:23

Makayla Mast

Right?

00:23:11:04 - 00:23:12:11

Joe Reitzug

Right.

00:23:12:12 - 00:23:33:13

Makayla Mast

And things like mildew. Also, I was showing a close family at home and they were so excited and I just had that mildew smell in the garage and in the lower level. And I was just like, I don't I don't know if this one's worth it. Guys think this is something could likely be still leaking in here and has been for 50 years.

00:23:33:15 - 00:23:47:09

Joe Reitzug

That mold. Oh yeesh. It's if if you can smell it. Yeah, it's bad. Yeah it's bad. And you certainly don't want to live in the house without addressing that completely.

00:23:47:11 - 00:23:49:14

Makayla Mast

Yeah, yeah. So smell.

00:23:49:19 - 00:24:04:00

Joe Reitzug

I was at, this is maybe not a story to be shared on the pod. So everyone out there do not say anything, okay. But I went to a party and acquaintances, a few years ago.

00:24:04:03 - 00:24:04:14

Makayla Mast

Yeah.

00:24:04:14 - 00:24:15:01

Joe Reitzug

And it was in, I think Tigard, Tualatin area or something like that. A little bit older home that was on the on the edge of a, wetlands.

00:24:15:03 - 00:24:15:18

Makayla Mast

Oh.

00:24:15:20 - 00:24:29:23

Joe Reitzug

Yeah. Yeah. And I walked in and it was like, oh, oh, oh, oh, we got mold issues for sure. Darn it. The house was packed with people and everything. I was like, how am I smelling this right now with.

00:24:30:01 - 00:24:30:22

Makayla Mast

At least three full.

00:24:30:22 - 00:24:49:18

Joe Reitzug

House? And it was so, so, so bad and I couldn't I mean, I just met these people like a while back. They're like, yeah, you should come to this party. I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah, great. How do you tell someone that, hey, guess what? Your house has mold. I can guarantee it.

00:24:49:19 - 00:24:53:03

Makayla Mast

How do they not smell that? Yeah. I don't know how you have that conversation.

00:24:53:03 - 00:24:54:13

Joe Reitzug

I don't know.

00:24:54:15 - 00:24:55:14

Makayla Mast

That's a tough one.

00:24:55:14 - 00:24:58:17

Joe Reitzug

I'm not going to say how that ended up, but things got straightened out.

00:24:58:19 - 00:24:59:13

Makayla Mast

Oh, okay.

00:24:59:13 - 00:25:02:23

Joe Reitzug

Good for you. I actually recommended a mold remediation.

00:25:03:01 - 00:25:05:20

Makayla Mast

Good for you, a trusted professional.

00:25:06:02 - 00:25:06:13

Joe Reitzug

Yes.

00:25:06:18 - 00:25:08:03

Makayla Mast

I love it. Yes.

00:25:08:03 - 00:25:12:13

Joe Reitzug

So, the next one that photos can't show noise.

00:25:12:17 - 00:25:13:05

Makayla Mast

00:25:13:09 - 00:25:17:03

Joe Reitzug

Good one. Good one. Yeah. Traffic is the big one.

00:25:17:03 - 00:25:34:04

Makayla Mast

Traffic is definitely the big one. Yeah, but there's some things that are still that seem trivial but are likely unresolvable. Like a dog barking next door, you know, maybe it's a neighbor that doesn't ever bring the dog inside, and maybe their dog goes ballistic at every leaf. That could drive you crazy.

00:25:34:04 - 00:25:37:12

Joe Reitzug

I've got a sheepdog who is a barker.

00:25:37:14 - 00:25:39:23

Makayla Mast

He's not outside. So you can't hear him?

00:25:40:05 - 00:25:52:02

Joe Reitzug

No, but like when he starts to do a sheep dog bark, it's like. No. Okay. Come on. Here we go. But yeah, you're coming inside. But I know there are people that are like, oh, my dog's an outside dog. And he barks and it's.

00:25:52:02 - 00:25:54:02

Makayla Mast

Okay, they're just towel dog owners.

00:25:54:02 - 00:25:56:19

Joe Reitzug

No, it's not okay. I love your house.

00:25:56:23 - 00:25:57:17

Makayla Mast

Oh, thanks.

00:25:57:19 - 00:26:03:02

Joe Reitzug

Because it's on the end of a street. And whenever I come over to your house, it's so quiet.

00:26:03:03 - 00:26:04:02

Makayla Mast

It is so quiet.

00:26:04:02 - 00:26:08:05

Joe Reitzug

So incredibly quiet. Except for the diving owls.

00:26:08:07 - 00:26:12:10

Makayla Mast

The diving house. Yeah. That was not disclosed to us.

00:26:12:12 - 00:26:16:01

Joe Reitzug

Yeah, that was a disclosure issue.

00:26:16:03 - 00:26:36:05

Makayla Mast

We sit on, like. Like we're pretty high. So then our neighbors behind us are lower, and then we have a we have a deck and then the yard drops below. So sometimes, I feel like that crazy person, I'm like, everyone below us can hear me screaming at my dog, but he's trying to fight the coyotes. Okay? It's a safety hazard.

00:26:36:07 - 00:26:38:12

Joe Reitzug

It is actually for Frank.

00:26:38:16 - 00:26:40:09

Makayla Mast

I know,

00:26:40:11 - 00:26:42:05

Joe Reitzug

I think he's too big for a coyote, though.

00:26:42:05 - 00:26:45:10

Makayla Mast

You think so, Jacob is not so sure. We don't let.

00:26:45:10 - 00:26:46:08

Joe Reitzug

Him be a pretty big guy.

00:26:46:08 - 00:26:52:18

Makayla Mast

We don't let him chase a coyote by himself. But if he has backup. Yeah, yeah, he gets to go at it.

00:26:52:19 - 00:26:57:22

Joe Reitzug

That's the way my little guy is. He'll take anybody on as long as he's got his big bro behind it.

00:26:57:22 - 00:26:59:17

Makayla Mast

Yeah, yeah, it's a little easier.

00:26:59:19 - 00:27:00:20

Joe Reitzug

Woo woo. I'm taking you.

00:27:00:20 - 00:27:01:21

Makayla Mast

Down.

00:27:01:23 - 00:27:11:09

Joe Reitzug

Nearby businesses also one, that we sold a home in a Hillsboro neighborhood that had a manufacturing behind it. You remember which house I'm talking about?

00:27:11:09 - 00:27:12:02

Makayla Mast

I do, yeah.

00:27:12:02 - 00:27:31:10

Joe Reitzug

And we lost one buyer because they came over and they loved the house, and they were sitting on the back porch, which was beautiful. And they could hear the low murmur hum of the business that was there on the other side of the green space. And they're like, yeah, it's a deal breaker for us.

00:27:31:15 - 00:27:34:19

Makayla Mast

Fair enough. And it might not be a deal breaker for somebody else.

00:27:34:19 - 00:27:37:22

Joe Reitzug

Yeah. So, what about lighting?

00:27:38:03 - 00:27:41:19

Makayla Mast

Yeah. Light listings don't show the light to me. That.

00:27:41:21 - 00:27:45:00

Joe Reitzug

What do you mean by light?

00:27:45:02 - 00:27:46:19

Makayla Mast

Well, Joe, so y'all.

00:27:47:00 - 00:27:49:00

Joe Reitzug

Digging deep into your bag on this one is.

00:27:49:00 - 00:28:07:13

Makayla Mast

All about lighting? No, a lot of people are really concerned about which direction the home faces. Which is fair, because you you on which way the sun is going to hit the home. And if there's windows on that side of the home, light and bright is a very common term that we look for.

00:28:07:13 - 00:28:09:15

Joe Reitzug

Most people prefer south facing.

00:28:09:18 - 00:28:10:04

Makayla Mast

00:28:10:05 - 00:28:11:03

Joe Reitzug

Right. For that.

00:28:11:08 - 00:28:13:03

Makayla Mast

Or north facing.

00:28:13:05 - 00:28:15:22

Joe Reitzug

North facing north or south facing.

00:28:15:22 - 00:28:17:15

Makayla Mast

Because when they get the morning sun.

00:28:17:17 - 00:28:27:18

Joe Reitzug

I don't know if you're at south facing in Portland in the winter when it's sunny you're going to get the light. If you're north facing the sun is in the southern hemisphere.

00:28:27:21 - 00:28:35:07

Makayla Mast

Okay. But I just know like in the summertime the sun sets in the south, right? Because the south side of the home.

00:28:35:11 - 00:28:38:12

Joe Reitzug

Rises in the east. Sets in the west. Oh, Lord.

00:28:38:13 - 00:28:41:21

Makayla Mast

Yeah, yeah. Everyone's always worried about the south side of there.

00:28:41:23 - 00:28:51:06

Joe Reitzug

But if you're south facing, then when the sun goes east to west, you're getting it on your house the entire time.

00:28:51:07 - 00:28:52:08

Makayla Mast

Oh okay.

00:28:52:10 - 00:28:57:11

Joe Reitzug

So if you're, you know, east or west facing, you get it in the morning, but not in the night.

00:28:57:11 - 00:29:00:19

Makayla Mast

Sure, sure, sure. I see, you know, I mean, definitely.

00:29:01:01 - 00:29:04:12

Joe Reitzug

Oh, yeah. Trust me. And there are certain religions that.

00:29:04:17 - 00:29:05:16

Makayla Mast

Yes, I. Yeah.

00:29:05:17 - 00:29:09:23

Joe Reitzug

And they can only buy homes that the front door faces east.

00:29:10:02 - 00:29:10:18

Makayla Mast

00:29:10:20 - 00:29:16:07

Joe Reitzug

Which is always kind of interesting because guess what? That's not disclosed anywhere in the MLS.

00:29:16:09 - 00:29:20:23

Makayla Mast

You know, you just have to go look, I are you look on the maps. Yeah I had a.

00:29:21:00 - 00:29:40:04

Joe Reitzug

I had a client not too long ago that that was the situation. Great guy. Loved working with them. He was fantastic. But that was a requirement. Could only buy a house that was facing east. So guess who got to look at Google Maps and to see what the orientation was on every single home that we looked at. Yeah that's.

00:29:40:04 - 00:29:44:02

Makayla Mast

Funny. Yeah it was. But you know, I love it when they keep us on our toes.

00:29:44:04 - 00:29:44:18

Joe Reitzug

Yeah. Me too.

00:29:44:18 - 00:30:00:01

Makayla Mast

It's fun. Okay, so another thing that listing photos can't show you as the street and the neighbors. So things like parking issues, proximity to other houses, street activity, you know, all the things you can't see until you just go in.

00:30:00:01 - 00:30:08:10

Joe Reitzug

Some of that we've already talked about, you just need to go check it out. Yeah. So what about the feel of the space, ceiling height, room proportions, layout, flow?

00:30:08:11 - 00:30:14:13

Makayla Mast

Yeah. We kind of touched on this earlier, but you're just. Yeah. You're never going to know till you see that for you. Yeah.

00:30:14:19 - 00:30:36:14

Joe Reitzug

Yeah. So, hopefully this has been helpful to you. Online listings are a great starting point, but these are some of the things that you really need to consider and think about and maybe dive a little bit deeper and also just go see the home. Right? Because when you go to the home, 90% of these things, you're going to be like, oh, okay, this works.

00:30:36:14 - 00:30:39:14

Joe Reitzug

This doesn't work. And that's that's important.

00:30:39:14 - 00:30:41:13

Makayla Mast

So it's all part of the process.

00:30:41:13 - 00:30:47:12

Joe Reitzug

And ask questions. Now you have some good question points to be asking your broker.

00:30:47:12 - 00:30:48:10

Makayla Mast

Yes.

00:30:48:12 - 00:30:53:17

Joe Reitzug

You can quiz Makayla all you want to hit me. She's good with it.

00:30:53:18 - 00:31:01:21

Makayla Mast

So okay. Well thank you for listening. We're going to wrap up with our last segment, which is something that we are loving.

00:31:01:23 - 00:31:04:04

Joe Reitzug

I am loving Rica Ramos.

00:31:04:04 - 00:31:09:10

Makayla Mast

Oh, I hope she smiles so big when she hears, she's probably rolling her eyes.

00:31:09:12 - 00:31:28:16

Joe Reitzug

Probably rolling her eyes right now. But Rica is our glue for the Livportland team. She does all of our marketing. She's the point on our social media transaction coordinator. She knows it all. She does. She keeps it all together. And by the way, she's the producer of this show.

00:31:28:16 - 00:31:30:18

Makayla Mast

She sure is. She does it all.

00:31:30:18 - 00:31:35:12

Joe Reitzug

And no joke, I love her so much. She's been with us six years.

00:31:35:13 - 00:31:38:06

Makayla Mast

Longer than I've even been around. That's right. Yep.

00:31:38:08 - 00:31:39:05

Joe Reitzug

That's right.

00:31:39:07 - 00:31:40:07

Makayla Mast

6 or 7, 6.

00:31:40:07 - 00:31:49:04

Joe Reitzug

Or 7 years. And she's the hardest working person. She's the sweetest person. And we all just love her to death.

00:31:49:04 - 00:31:50:01

Makayla Mast

So yes, we do.

00:31:50:01 - 00:31:51:14

Joe Reitzug

That is what I'm loving.

00:31:51:14 - 00:31:52:15

Makayla Mast

That is so sweet.

00:31:52:17 - 00:32:07:12

Joe Reitzug

She is near and dear to my heart and all of our hearts, and she deserves all the credit in the world because she is just a wonderful person. On top of being the most amazing in real estate, person that we could ever, ever ask for.

00:32:07:14 - 00:32:14:21

Makayla Mast

Oh, I love that. Yeah. So sweet. Yeah. Good one. Yeah. I am loving the show Paradise.

00:32:14:23 - 00:32:17:04

Joe Reitzug

Gosh darn it, I do too.

00:32:17:06 - 00:32:25:07

Makayla Mast

I got you hooked on it. Yes you did. I have never, I have been so obsessed with the show. But this is up there. This is, like, top five for me. Yeah. We're.

00:32:25:07 - 00:32:25:19

Joe Reitzug

Getting caught.

00:32:25:19 - 00:32:25:21

Makayla Mast

Up.

00:32:25:22 - 00:32:32:10

Joe Reitzug

I love a season two, and I only I think we've only got 2 or 3 episodes left before we're caught up with you.

00:32:32:12 - 00:32:37:23

Makayla Mast

Oh, I love it. The third episode of season two is.

00:32:38:01 - 00:32:39:17

Joe Reitzug

That's the one we're on.

00:32:39:19 - 00:32:53:13

Makayla Mast

Oh, tonight. It shook me for days. That's when I started telling everybody to watch the show because it's so good. Wow. And that's what I'm obsessed with or loving. It comes out once a week, so we're just like.

00:32:53:15 - 00:32:54:06

Joe Reitzug

Yeah.

00:32:54:08 - 00:32:55:20

Makayla Mast

Dying for an episode.

00:32:55:21 - 00:33:02:03

Joe Reitzug

Yeah, it's an amazing story. And the actors are really good and it's just it's powerful.

00:33:02:05 - 00:33:02:23

Makayla Mast

Yeah, it is.

00:33:03:03 - 00:33:04:12

Joe Reitzug

And a little bit scary.

00:33:04:12 - 00:33:07:18

Makayla Mast

It's maybe two realistic.

00:33:07:20 - 00:33:13:12

Joe Reitzug

For what we're going through in our day and age right now. Yes, I would agree. It's maybe too on point.

00:33:13:14 - 00:33:18:12

Makayla Mast

Yeah. So let me know if you watch it. Yeah. It's our friend okay guys.

00:33:18:16 - 00:33:38:00

Joe Reitzug

Well that's our show for today. Thank you so much for joining us. And remember you can catch us at Livportland Livportland.com. Go to podcast. And we always have some nice show notes on the different topics that we cover. You can also, you know, you can also find your next home there. You know what I'm saying?

00:33:38:00 - 00:34:01:04

Joe Reitzug

It's a great spot to check out real estate in general. We got a cool blog that has all sorts of good information, and, it's just a neat spot. You can also go to YouTube and go to the, Livportland. YouTube channel and see all of our podcast, all of our reels. And then we also have other content that we do.

00:34:01:05 - 00:34:03:05

Makayla Mast

Yes we do. We're just full of content.

00:34:03:06 - 00:34:22:04

Joe Reitzug

We are full of content. And I say that with much love. But, the Grub Guide will be coming back out, starting in a probably about a month or so. But we're also doing Sothebys Amazing Homes, which I love, which is about a two, two and a half, three minute at the most.

00:34:22:06 - 00:34:22:16

Makayla Mast

Watched.

00:34:22:22 - 00:34:39:04

Joe Reitzug

Video, where Makayla and I will watch really incredibly beautiful Sotheby's homes that are listed around the country and around the world. And we just kind of walk you through it and give it our give, our take on it. But if you're into, what do they call it.

00:34:39:06 - 00:34:40:18

Makayla Mast

Extraordinary homes, I think.

00:34:40:18 - 00:34:41:18

Joe Reitzug

I think they call it house porn.

00:34:41:18 - 00:34:43:20

Makayla Mast

Oh, wow.

00:34:43:22 - 00:34:44:06

Joe Reitzug

Yeah, they.

00:34:44:06 - 00:34:45:07

Makayla Mast

Do, they do, they.

00:34:45:07 - 00:34:57:13

Joe Reitzug

Do. If you're into amazing homes and just, you know, maybe got a little bit of a fixation on the incredible homes that are out there. So find us and we'll entertain you. Yeah. So. All right, guys, hey.

00:34:57:13 - 00:34:58:10

Makayla Mast

Thanks for listening.

00:34:58:10 - 00:35:00:23

Joe Reitzug

Thanks, guys. Have a great day. See you next time.

00:35:01:01 - 00:35:26:23

Makayla Mast

Thanks for joining us today. If you're interested in finding out more about Joe, myself or the Livportland team, you can go to Livportland.com. Thanks for giving us a listen and see you next time on the Off the Record podcast.