Hello, hey everybody, welcome to another wonderful episode of Hanging with Humans episode 11, I believe it is and today I have very, very, very special guests. I'm in San Antonio, texas, texas, texas, with my dear one of my bestest friends, my brother, alfredo Boconegra, and my other brother, the greatest medic to ever live, andy Fisher, and his big pythons. Yeah, dude, hey. So check this out, that picture we took today. Which one? The one with S3. It would have been the sickest one of all time. If Fish Hold on. Where's that picture? Oh, fish doesn't show his arms. Oh, man, look.
Speaker 2:Does he give no arms?
Speaker 1:Well, look like every one of us sleep to the max, even his leg and everything like. How rad would that be?
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, the podcast now shows that I do have problems solved. That's true Problem solved.
Speaker 1:That's why we have you around here. Problem solved, Andy. So usually on podcasts I interview people. I let people sit down and I ask them a bunch of questions about their life, where they come from, about their family, their friends, things they do. So this is a very cool moment for me because these guys are like my brothers and we did a lot of rad shit together and I'm very pumped to be here. So, Fisher, it's so good to see you. Dude, You're too bro, I was, You're too. Oh yeah, Freddie's here, but oh yeah, and Freddie's lovely wife, Jasmine, she's over there. If you want a pan, does that thing move the whole fanbams up there? We got more upstairs.
Speaker 2:Oh, ladies, they're like oh, who's that guy Take?
Speaker 1:it, take it. And Freddie got me a hat. Check that out. Mashing hats Same Z's Good friend, right? That's what I'm talking about. And also I have a new obsession, and it's Aspen. Oh, aspen, aspen, come here, you little baby, come here. Oh, my goodness, you're just gonna walk around there and commentate. Yep, I'm gonna be commenting, but if you guys have oh my goodness Stripes, oh my goodness, how do you feel about Aspen?
Speaker 2:Aspen's good man. I never wanted a dog. I used to be a dog. I thought we'd say it's small dogs, yeah, they don't defend her today, yeah, yeah, but he is so easy, so cool. He uses puppy pads yeah, I saw him as a cat, 12 weeks old, he's.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's okay, I have a.
Speaker 3:Rottweiler that doesn't defend either.
Speaker 1:So I mean that's what he said. Also, that's a new fact that you taught me. Today. I learned something Aspen Rottweiler shed a shit ton, apparently, right, fisher? Yes, how old is your dog? Four, three, and some change Three and a half. Damn, look at me. In my memory I'm on the gun. Okay, so are we playing cutthroat or what are we doing? Looks like we're just playing regularly. Well, fisher, where were you born? Memphis, tennessee, memphis, tennessee. How did that become the thing of San Antonio's home?
Speaker 3:So my dad was going to medical school up there. He had just married my mom and they graduated college. He got accepted to dental school up there. So they moved up there and my brother and I were both born there and once he graduated we moved to Arkansas, which was where he's from, and then he joined the Air Force, and then it was every two years until we hit San.
Speaker 3:Antonio, where we spent four years, which was amazing to me because that was the most time I ever spent one place that I can remember, damn, and so this is why I call this place home.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, I kind of fell in love with San Antonio a little bit today.
Speaker 1:I know the Riverwalk's kind of like touristy and whatnot, but it really was super rad, like it was nice. It was it was very, very nice. Yeah, it's very fun. I don't drink anymore, but if I was me a couple of years ago, me and this guy will be turned to the max and then Fisher would be right there behind us and nobody would ever want to mess with us because because this is the whole Fisher over here, this is still our toast zero.
Speaker 2:Still have you want to sponsor us Two years over?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you have two years over. Congrats on that. Me, I'm like half of that like a year, and some change something like that Fisher drank three glasses of wine like a boss today. I love that I was living through you for a second, because I just love I missed the taste of wine. You ever just like have a nice juicy steak with some red wine. Oh yeah, that's that's all I ever do. Dude, that's a jam.
Speaker 3:That's a jam. I go to Longhorn it's. It's a eight ounce fillet with a glass of red wine this guy gets it.
Speaker 1:Bro. Speaking of state, this dude can barbeque his ass off. This guy could cook some shit up. This is true when I came last. Last year was the first time we see each other in what how long Since you're living in my bedroom, yeah yeah, back in the back of the house. That's what homies do, bro. Yeah, dude, we we all deployed together and shit 2012.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we were at Bond and showed up there with nothing but just like empty tents and empty water bottles in the Polish special forces and empty promises. Tower guard.
Speaker 1:That's true dude. We were the prettiest dudes in Afghanistan. Hands down.
Speaker 2:There's no wide open.
Speaker 1:No, wide open, that is. That is. Podcast is over. Push the cork down, do you that leg? It looks sick. How long did that take fish, that leg?
Speaker 3:Oh, let's take this took multiple sessions, like the outline, the coloring, the shading hours, you think I'm not talking dollars, I'm talking hours. So just Ready, ready to go.
Speaker 1:I was tempted to instinct was like my head Whoa, this dude almost threw his life away. You see that Got it. Wow, You're on it. Whoa, Uh-uh. No, just kidding Dang, that's wild. What if he like fell off the wagon? Like instantly he had that lick. He's like I can't stop. Oh, he opens the fridge and starts chugging. That'd be hilarious. What? What happened to Freddie? He got his eighth DUI this year. Like what? All because of a little bit of wine splash. That's nuts Fish you want? No, I can do it. What's the most wasted you've ever been? Do you remember?
Speaker 2:No, my stomach is seeping through my skin and my pores.
Speaker 3:I know it's because the cork gets clogged, so you've got to push it down until it turns upside down and then it goes to the bottom of the bottle. Fish is an extra alcoholic. Yeah Well, I mean, alcohol is good meaning. I'm a drunk.
Speaker 1:You see, there's a big old difference between them. Things. I'm proud of you, fisher. Oh dude, how about cheers to? Fisher Just got his master's degree, yes, what.
Speaker 3:Master's degree in fish Business administration.
Speaker 1:Wow, taxi, whoa, we're both entrepreneurs, you know. And then check out, we got the business guy here now. Huh, I'm gonna sit behind the desk, kind of dude. There we go pushing pencils, that's right, that's what we like, yeah.
Speaker 2:How do you feel about the economy Fish?
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, it depends on what you're like. So inflation is not good, not good. Well, how do you feel about doordash? It's expensive.
Speaker 1:You told me you spent a G.
Speaker 3:Yeah after I broke it down to look at my bank statements almost a G a month just in doordash alone. I mean, don't get me wrong. The convenience is great and I love it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But I mean, that's so wild. It's like my phone bill from AT&T is like here's your surcharge, here's what are you gonna do about it charged.
Speaker 1:Like do you want it or not? Yeah, and then I know You're not gonna turn it off.
Speaker 3:Here's my P5 full phone charge. Like what is this this? After I looked at my statement and I was, like what is this charge? This is ridiculous.
Speaker 1:You ever use like a rocket. I think a rocket money there's like a programmer app or anything like that. They should be like a blue bird or bill or some shit. You ever tried one of those?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've done the rocket money.
Speaker 1:And it's pretty good.
Speaker 3:It shows you what you're spending on where you're spending it. If you can, you can close some things, not all things, because big companies like AT&T, stuff like that, you can't just cancel it from rocket money, you have to actually contact them, yep.
Speaker 2:Rocket money.
Speaker 3:I feel good for sponsors Dude, we're just fucking cash and checks, I mean but it's good for tracking budgets if your bank doesn't do that, bam, because they'll track every dollar you spend. The first time we downloaded rocket money, we saw our expenses for the previous year. It was like $20,000, dying out. What that's ridiculous, it sure is. Yeah, it breaks it down like Excel spreadsheets, like once you break down an income statement, balance sheets, profit margin sheets, like it could be kind of complicated to look at, but rocket money does that, from what I saw and then broke it down and broke it up in the sections for people who can't read those things they do pie charts and shit. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And they're just like you got some free marketing yeah. Just sad, I love it.
Speaker 3:I think it's great and I have a master's in business so you hear it here first.
Speaker 1:You guys got a master's in business. Numbers and numbers, numbers and numbers. They'll never lie. Yeah, they'll never sleep with your sister. You know what I mean? Nope, very true, they don't do that. Yeah, no, dude, I'm proud of you. Fish, that's fucking awesome. Thanks, man. That's hard ass work and you did it like not straight from high school to college, that four years and then the next. You know like you fucking went, did life, jumped out of fucking planes. Injury Can we talk about injury?
Speaker 3:What happened with that? Your back's all fucked up, right? Yep, so my lower back. So I had a jump out of a Sherpa which, as opposed to the regular C-17s and C-130s, you both know, you come in, you hand off your static line, you turn, jump out, you the door, but Sherpa, so you hook it up to the back and they open the back and then you just walk off and you don't have to hand it off to anybody, you don't even have to, you just let go and then you just walk up the back and fall off a plane. You know, pretty easy, right? So I did that.
Speaker 3:And then I had a parachute malfunction, partial malfunction, and you know I was sitting there, it was all twisted up and you know, by the time I got it, I was pulling it apart. By the time I got it undone, I had fallen too fast and you know I was like maybe 100 to 200 feet from the ground, I look up and everyone else is above me, and then I just smashed right down on my back and then definitely didn't PLF correctly, right, yeah, right. Like when you hit, the wind knocked out of you like oh Damn, and I felt this tightness in my back. I was like this doesn't feel right.
Speaker 3:And the doctors, like in the PA, was like, oh, you're fine, just do your stretches. You're fine, just touch your toes. I was like I can't, can't, bend past that. And they're like that's not right, right. And they're like no, you're fine, you're fine, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1:And I was like okay.
Speaker 3:So I just kept going, kept going. One day my leg just gave out. All me went completely numb. And then I went and talked to him. They're like that's bad, you need to go get MRI right now. So if you want to get MRI really fast, you'll break it back Fastest I ever got an MRI in army.
Speaker 3:It was a bad day, really, yeah, they told me I had a cracked vertebrae and three blown out discs in my lower back my L4, l5 and S1. And then my L5 disc or not disc with vertebrae was cracked and all that disc fluid leaked out onto the peripheral nerves on the left side and that's what caused my leg to go numb, because they were like so freaked out and in danger being damaged that they just turn off and that's why the leg is numb. And then three years later, I got spine surgery to try to fix it. They said they were gonna fuse it. They didn't want to because I was still, I was 28 or no, I was 29 years old. So they didn't want to defusions that young Cause. Once you do a fusion on a lower back, then it just starts the timer for possibly herniating or bulging another disc. It takes away that cushion. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So he brought the equipment out. He showed it to me, dr Jackson. He was like I got this stuff here, I'll fuse it if I have to, but I won't do what I can not to. I was like okay, cool. And then he gave me the propofol. He was like count down from a hundred. I was like nine, nine, nine. Next thing, I know I'm waking up and post-op he's like I didn't fuse it, but I tried to clean it up as much as I can. I was like awesome, cool. And I saw the PA, I think a month later after I was recovering and he was like sorry man. He was like they took another MRI and they're like sorry man, we can't do anything.
Speaker 3:You can either change your MOS because you can't be a combat medic with this injury. You can't go to an officer's school because of this injury he's like you can change to. Was it 42 alpha like the S1?
Speaker 1:He's like or you can medically retire.
Speaker 3:I was like I'll medically retire Because nothing against 42 alpha is the S1 peeps, was that not? That's not what we did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like we were in FDAS, sam, like I was a combat medic, that's what I was trained to do and I didn't want to go sit up in an office, maybe never deploy again. Yeah, and also, I was also a little bitter because I guess my dreams of going to PA school and Ranger school. Yeah, like the PA captain, bill Tran. He was just like oh, I was fine, a waiver for you to go to PA school. I will write a letter for you to go. It's not guaranteed, but I will help you as much as I can. I was like so it's not guaranteed, sir. He was like no, and I was like okay, I'm done. I signed that paperwork and got medically retired.
Speaker 2:Speaking about being like a medic in Afghanistan. Do you remember that one time we were in that competition, the Foxtrot competition? Oh yeah, and I was in a race against Hardy and I stuck a nazis brunjol in this guy's nose.
Speaker 3:Those are always fun to do. He's just like all right, this isn't going to hurt. And you're like are you sure? Like yeah, you're fine.
Speaker 1:Was that like the last stretch?
Speaker 2:Dude, imagine him like doing that for me, me doing that to you.
Speaker 1:You letting me do that to you. You volunteered. Oh yeah, dude Fucking, I'm very careless about my life. You know this.
Speaker 3:That was a fun competition, though, yeah.
Speaker 2:I lost because I couldn't get the rucksack. I had my straps. I came back and crazy.
Speaker 3:I wasn't even competing, I was just like grading the medical part, because I was also only medic. Well, not your only medic, but the one who was there at the time.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, you're so fast. I was just a jesus of the meat. Yeah, oh no, oh no, oh no. Um, where are you, dude that Korean barbecue today? No, I mean, it was good, I thought it was in comparison to what that place outside with the line. I don't know, maybe it's killing me.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, in all fairness, that was the first time I've had Korean barbecue, ever, ever, ever, ever, and it blew my mind, it blew my mind.
Speaker 1:I got to cook, I got to eat and everything was awesome. Some of the stuff in there was fired, like the chicken, was super juicy, tender, luscious.
Speaker 3:I had to let Freddie take that. I was like dude I can't cook chicken without a thermometer.
Speaker 2:I was like is it done?
Speaker 3:yet Is it done? Yet You're like no, don't eat that. He's like that's why you would get some and all.
Speaker 1:Dude, remember, in that watch tower freezing our asses off, fishing, yeah, for like 12 hours, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're like doing this guard watch tower and me and Fisher like we're doing switchies, like, hey, stay up, you go to sleep, vice versa which neither of us should be sleeping. But you know it is what it is Some solid day and I take a shift, I pass out and then I wake up and I look over and Fisher's passed out and Fisher has this beautiful bald head, as you can see, and we have these like ninja silkies is what they call them, but I don't know, they're like kind of like an under armor type. Yeah, it's for a leg, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was like, yeah, like pant legs. So you know, I don't know he needed to keep his head warm and he didn't have a hat or something. So I wake up and then I just see like looks like pantyhose are like hanging off of his head and I'm just like what the fuck?
Speaker 3:is going on Cause I don't have these luxurious locks, like you guys, to keep my head warm.
Speaker 2:The story that he says behind your back is that you're under armor.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, that was the hang. Yeah, they're the long johns that we had.
Speaker 2:I thought you were in like white tiny, no, no.
Speaker 1:It was that the second thing that Fisher said.
Speaker 2:It's funny Cause I recently, like last week, when I went hunting I was in the blind and I was talking to my friend Juan about it. I was like dude, the worst thing I did in the army was to sit in that watch tower for Admon and he 12 on 12 off, 12 on 12. And he just felt like it was never going to end and it was just constant in there for 12 hours. On getting out, making a phone call with the MWR and one sweep waking up and doing, I didn't realize we were on Admon too, are you? Yeah, we were.
Speaker 3:We were put together cause both of our names start with this. Yeah, it was the worst experience, bro.
Speaker 2:I was terrified of staring out of the scope all day.
Speaker 3:And then RJ started using. He got bored and started using his robot voice over the call and I called and checked in and he was like Roger over, oh man. And then the NCO in charge would be like who said that let's be professional. Please, let's be professional, please.
Speaker 2:Okay, you got it over, Roger.
Speaker 1:Roger that yeah, oh man, oh dude. You know what was sick, though, in those in those convoys how we used to you can get your your iPod and get the headphones and you can splice the wire and splice the wires into the truck and then everybody can bump your iPod while you're driving around. Yeah, I remember Anderson did that. Yeah, we were like bumping Metallica when you're driving through these villages and shit.
Speaker 3:I remember he used to get so mad at us cause we'd just sit there and make jokes the whole time on those long gags. You know to Serrano, yep, we'd just sit there and make jokes and he's just like all right guys, you know, stop, there's nothing to stop.
Speaker 1:Anderson used to get mad. He used to get real mad cause we were just a couple of hours.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, when he does, he'll know.
Speaker 1:He'll know what we're talking about yeah Well, you got to bring Morale up somehow, right? Yeah, I mean there's like six hour drives.
Speaker 3:Like sometimes eight Fish, you're kind of baller. I used to play a lot of pool.
Speaker 2:Well, obviously, just pull table sticks on your hand and cue Check this out your leg.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see this one here. Oh, you got one too Nice.
Speaker 2:I'll see your picture. What?
Speaker 1:They're all three Japanese to get out of town. What a coinky bink. And then this one is and this one is not. That one is how cool. Huh, same Z's, same Z's. You know what I do? I really do think we all need matching sweaters, though For girls. Exactly Like what is it that? Dr Sears was like thing one and thing two, but it's like bro, one, two and three, something like that, or the three brosketeers or something. Maybe the brosketeers?
Speaker 3:Yeah. I was thinking about making a limb biscuit cover band. Yeah, call ourselves the biscuit tears, the three of us. And then we have the backup dancers. They'd be the biscuits, the biscuits.
Speaker 1:I like that. I can get behind that. You do got a Fred Durst thing going on with it. Yeah, I'm trying. We go to red like St Louis, back red, back backwards, and then go top a lot of theirs, something like that.
Speaker 3:So close. Yeah, here we go, clean it up.
Speaker 1:Ooh, let's talk about soon this is good because you want to know what a healthy relationship looks like Right here, right here, bingo these two. I'm so happy to do that. So we took this huge break apart from seeing each other for a hell of a year, and I move all over the place and we go and we do our own thing, and I come back and your family is so beautiful, dude.
Speaker 2:Your family is the most beautiful, true, true. A family where there's a bunch of chicks watching this.
Speaker 1:I was like dude, she's right there. Did you hear me talking about you and how cute you are and stuff it's better.
Speaker 2:Just a little secret. Good game brother. Oh, she Call us pocket. Yeah, yeah, I pointed at it. I pointed at it.
Speaker 3:I mean it's on the camera. I pointed at it. Yep, In your court.
Speaker 1:Dude, he destroyed you. I was. He should even shake his hand or something I'm going to rack up, and, but now I'm going to destroy Fisher, though.
Speaker 3:My dad boo.
Speaker 1:What? The blue one? Well, you want to get there. You go Right there. Brother, do you have that stuff in here?
Speaker 2:For the record, this is the second podcast I've ever heard of, aren't they?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, this one just never got released because it was so inappropriate, but like one day dude, like when Tupac dies, like when I die, like same thing. Tupac still releasing music forever. I'll be releasing my podcast for days on it and I also want to recreate some Tupac photos with, like, the bandana twisted in the front and then he's wearing a Detroit Red Wings jersey and he's spitting on the camera like this. It's a sick. It's a sick pic. Let me show it to you. No, all right.
Speaker 2:You know how full ourselves, though, when we were buffering up gas and filling out word one in our funeral what we wanted to be buried in yeah, what's happening? We were like we'll walk red bands with skinny jeans and a V-neck white t-shirt with a basically like a fitted cap.
Speaker 1:Yup, it was so stupid, very stupid, you said.
Speaker 2:I'm being like. I want to be buried in my uniform.
Speaker 1:But okay, there's that. I wanted to have my ashes spread. It was like someplace in like around, like San Diego or something. But I also have a sick playlist for my funeral that I put on there and then I'm going to put beers under everybody's seats and then everybody has to shot a beer when everyone Don't really. Don't matter, don't matter. I'm really like what, bro? I thought we were like tight, tight, dude, all those muscles for nothing. Look here, you take this. All right, let's see how. Do I want to win by the solid? Do you want a nail the choices? What are you? Your profession?
Speaker 2:Well, I'm a real oh yeah, you're a professional, I'm a realtor.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, I'm a realtor. Okay, you do a lot of different things, though. Honestly, what a man like you. All these different feats. Where do you find the time you?
Speaker 2:know what I did. All I do is hustle. I'm talented at sort of propagating. It's like left right, left, right, left right, and I stick to it and I hyper focus on my daily tasks.
Speaker 1:And I do something called money balling. What's money balling?
Speaker 2:I'm just doing it for all those words.
Speaker 1:Tell me more. You got me hooked to the money balling thing, though I know it's just a movie with Brad Pitt about the other planes, he's a fantastic.
Speaker 2:Watch it every morning.
Speaker 1:As well. Throw on some Brad Pitt and fucking get after it.
Speaker 2:Do you want to have it?
Speaker 1:all yeah, oh, have you ever seen Snatch? Yes, not like. No, I get what you're saying. The movie, I got it. The movie, I got it the first time. It's a great movie with Brad Pitt. He shredded, he shred dog to the max in that movie. Is it my turn? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Is he in flight club? Yeah, he's like equally as shredded in that movie. Mum, mum, mum, mum, mum, mum.
Speaker 2:What's your?
Speaker 1:favourite Tarantino movie. Ready to set go? Kill Bill Full Fiction.
Speaker 3:Oh no, I forgot the one, the spaghetti western he made.
Speaker 2:Western.
Speaker 3:Sukiaki western. Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1:The hate plate. Hmm, hate plate.
Speaker 3:No, the sukiyaki western Jango. Oh, jango and Jane. No, this is another one. Tarantino did it. Yeah, it's called sukiyaki western Jango.
Speaker 1:Stop it Really. What do I not know about this?
Speaker 3:It's a great movie. It's about like a bunch of Japanese immigrants that come to an old Western town. What?
Speaker 1:Dude.
Speaker 3:One of them is a gunslinger, the other one wields a sword.
Speaker 1:Are you sure he directed?
Speaker 2:it yeah of course I was right.
Speaker 3:I mean I can consult the orca.
Speaker 1:Was there a large theatrical release?
Speaker 2:I feel like I would have heard about it. No, it's one of his lesser knowns.
Speaker 1:You're not slipping those by me, fish. I am a huge Tarantino guy. I'm just saying, also speaking Tarantino, tarantino's pizza and bozeman Slam dunk, baby Delicious.
Speaker 2:Tarantino pizza and bozeman movie for Mark and Kelo.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I liked it, boi. Okay, no, he didn't direct it, he produced it. Boom, same thing.
Speaker 1:Close enough. What Don't make it look that way? Oh wait, I did make one right. Yeah, I didn't make one?
Speaker 2:I haven't even shot.
Speaker 1:Yet that's my deal. That's what happened. I thought you would do Alright, alright, alright, because I'm all mixed up about which way I want to win. I'm like, ah, we still, you still listen to a lot of hip hop, right, yeah, your favorite album of this last year, favorite, or who is the most? Who is the artist you bump the most? Who is the artist that I bump the most? Hmm?
Speaker 2:For sure. It's always interesting when you like actually think about it on the spot. They'll always go and I'll go to one artist and then, like now, I just kind of remember. But what I do listen to a lot is the rap life playlist that's on Apple Music and it's always just like the newest hit song. So right now it's Red.
Speaker 1:Brunker by 21 Savage, and it's a banger. It is a banger, I agree, fisher. What about you? What bangers Metallica?
Speaker 3:Well, if I'm going to stay with the rap genre, I'm still stuck in the Houston rap era. You know there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, still a little fat. Pat Pamp C, pamp Sui, yeah, kiki.
Speaker 1:Kiki, that was like my favorite thing when we'd be partying and he'd be like yo put Sipvin on some scissorbon and I'd be like I got you Fisher Sipvin on some scissorbon.
Speaker 2:And I'm like, hey, I'm the Skilbert Kendrick Lamar in your bariturn. I feel like it was you, like the memories I meet going in there and doesn't play in your laptop, but it might have been something.
Speaker 3:I'm just sitting there drinking King Cobra's a listen to 90's rap music. Bro, time's a change, you know, you can venture out.
Speaker 1:Time's a change.
Speaker 3:You don't have to drink stillers. You always come to the club with us, man, you know things are different now.
Speaker 2:Things are different now. What are you, did you making? All right, you tell us about when you had further got to Fort Bragg.
Speaker 1:Ooh, let's see. Well, I left Airborne school before Bandy Georgia got on a bus. Oh, check this out, was it when the grab? Okay, so the bus from Georgia to North Carolina.
Speaker 2:I got a hand job From this one year he released the last podcast. You said those two link this there.
Speaker 1:What that's hilarious. Sorry, all right, I didn't get a hand job on the bus from one place to another. I'm not sure, yeah, but enough about that.
Speaker 2:Once I send this out to you.
Speaker 1:It's going to be cut, Bro. I'll do the editing, Don't worry about it. You know you move along, He'll zoom down himself.
Speaker 2:You'll be like I got a hand job, you know what, you know what?
Speaker 3:I love you, even slowing down a little bit.
Speaker 2:It's funny yeah he'll put a little emoji in my hand.
Speaker 1:He represents me as the worst human being to ever live. I promise you that I'm a changed man, freddie. I'm not even as bad as you say I am or ever was that bad? You're probably the worst. No, no, that is not true.
Speaker 2:I'm really a tenor. Robbie Can't talk about that. Pretty well, we don't talk about Are you hitting balls?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm hitting balls. It's still open Is it, no way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is. I haven't made anything either. Hey, edit this out, but I will. Oh, actually I can.
Speaker 2:I'll edit this whole part last two minutes out, my man, because I don't want people on my Facebook to be like yo.
Speaker 1:What are you going to do when you're talking about hand jobs? I never said that.
Speaker 2:What you've been seen.
Speaker 1:No, I'm agnostic. There's a big difference.
Speaker 2:I mean once you get into religious talks.
Speaker 1:That's when the heat fires up Agnostic, a lot of anger, maybe like oh, I love Satan. That's kidding, I'm not kidding, those are separate things. Yes, I do.
Speaker 2:But yes, I love Satan.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, no, no, dude, it's all about and action, yeah, and then next thing, you know, just fighting them all off, you know? Well, it's just he said action, so I was going to like it came in at a really good story, you know, but you should have seen the other guy, no, hey? So tomorrow, what gun are you using to shoot this deer?
Speaker 2:I'm using my friends. I think it's a Romeo 27. Hondo, yeah, I have my AR, but I don't have school money, is that?
Speaker 1:red dot, or you're probably still hit it with some agonist, agonist. Yeah, that's gonna be really fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Portugal, you guys. Oh, fish already told you you got to come visit the crib in Portugal and oh, you know what You're. So, since you can that, that, that last gal. Now you've been like chilling, like not not really out there playing the field and whatnot. European lady, that's what you need. I'm not afraid of anything, european lady. I don't know. Fish, I don't have any comments on the other one. Oh yeah, you're right, dude, you're such a stand up guy. But oh yeah, dude, european ladies, that's where it's at, not for me.
Speaker 3:I'm taken, but Every time I was in Europe it was like work, work, work, military stuff and then no time for any of that. So I never met it. I did meet some Romanian ladies. They were very nice, Really Back to.
Speaker 2:Romanian yeah.
Speaker 3:And I totally regret not buying those super sweet Dracula bobbleheads they had in their gift shop. Gosh, I kicked myself about that all the time.
Speaker 2:You were like exploring Romania more there, so busy. Just like a bit of wifi and good wifi, yeah. Just like being on social media.
Speaker 3:Beautiful country though Very tall green trees, castles and stuff.
Speaker 2:Where did we stop before I was in Kyrgyzstan?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was our first one In Minas, Kyrgyzstan. That was cool. Yeah, very, very cool. We got there in RJ, stepped in the ice and yeah, we had to wear special shoes so we didn't trip and fall.
Speaker 1:They made it yeah.
Speaker 2:They were like a bunch of people fall, yeah, ice patches everywhere.
Speaker 1:I know, I know it's ridiculous. You should have been there, actually. No, you should have been there. No, you shouldn't have. How's that katana working out over there? I'm solids, by the way. Nice, yeah, I know You're one of the most solid dudes I know. I know. I know, yup, would you ever wear a toupee? No, I was really hoping you were.
Speaker 3:Maybe a party toupee, you know it's like hey, we're going to a party. I'm like give me a party toupee, Hold on, Nobody here knows I'm bald, Let me get my party toupee. Let's try something real good guys. Oh no, this is going great.
Speaker 2:Fish in 60 seconds or less. Give the advice that you would give to the 18 year old. Very nice yourself.
Speaker 3:Pay attention in school. Take school a lot serious, like a lot more seriously. If you're gonna join a military, go to college first. If college doesn't work for you, then totally join, that's totally fine. But if you don't wanna do that, go to trade school. Nice, nice, is this?
Speaker 1:lights turned off, or did you turn it off by a nightstand? Oh, the lights died. That's a good 60 seconds. Yeah, 60 seconds.
Speaker 2:All right and RJ. What was the?
Speaker 1:question. What was the question? J-8, 57. What was the question?
Speaker 2:J-6, 55.
Speaker 1:Fish. Help me out. What was the?
Speaker 3:question Advice you would give yourself when you're 18 years old, okay?
Speaker 1:Umm, pull out every time, every single time. Umm, what else, what else, what else, what else, what else? Tight football, play football, play football. Read books, reading books. And if you're not a good visual learner, audio books work just as good. Podcast, really good. Use your time wisely. Get good at multitasking. You know I'm running out of time. Is that good? Nailed it, freddie. Go 60 seconds.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I would say the biggest thing is just slow down and savor every second, because as you get older, you start realizing that time goes by. It's kind of like there's an end to it, like we're not going to live forever. You start feeling that the older you get and if you do have a family, I would say to be there as much as you can, because you always have that mentality when you're young that I can grind now because it'll be worth it. Well, guess what? You never stop grinding because there's always a new goal to hit and I wish that I had understood that, like I'm never going to stop grinding and I realized that a year ago and I've already neglected my kids for like seven years and that was tough and also to actually be goal oriented. And I'll plan and stick to it, because if you're just like I'm gonna grind, grind, grind.
Speaker 2:It's not really a plan, it just never ends. And also to make smart investments. You don't need materialistic things when you're young, because if you're wise with your money, you can save and you invest it.
Speaker 3:You can retire early, earlier, and I've been more kind to spend with your family. I'm successful. I enjoy true happiness, which is financial freedom.
Speaker 1:I love that. Financial freedom is always key, and I love that because that takes me to a topic that I legit wanted to get into when we were going to record a podcast is because I was absent of your life, from you know, when you left to Italy and then I dipped out and then all these years later, um shit, I lost it. Oh sorry, Sorry about that, we're blinding me real quick.
Speaker 2:Oh, where'd it go? I'm getting it.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, okay, no, no. So you're very successful. You've done so. I'm so successful. I'm successful for the right words in life. Before you, I'm going to say the words I want to say, but my Facebook haters I'm like he's not very successful. I want to clarify real quick, you helping me In my opinion. I got it.
Speaker 1:Freddie and Jasmine are very, very successful and I'm very proud of you and so I mean you're doing better than me, which is awesome and I love that. I truly love that. But so I guess what I'm trying to say is through that period of time, what were the steps? Where did you start? And to get where you're at now, which is you guys have some Airbnb's right. That's the part. You have a roofing business you were doing I work, okay, you did solar, thank you, stuff like that. What is the main characteristics and traits that tie all those things?
Speaker 1:in together that you were good at all of those things to make it to the top, Because the cream always rises to the top, Freddie Well it was just mainly just being disciplined.
Speaker 2:I learned in the military because before the military you get into the military, they instill it inside of you Okay, beyond time, be where you're supposed to be, do what you say you're going to do, which a lot of civilians they don't have. They're never on time, they're never what they're supposed to be. They say they may do something and they never do it. And I learned to honor my commitments and I also. Most of what I've done has been sales and fishes blocking the camera. Most of what I've been doing is sales and I don't really try and be a salesman because I know, like in this day and age, people get turned off. If you're trying to be salesman, you know I'll be out of your hair quicker than a favorite shampoo. Thank you, what is this guy trying to do? He's about to try and close me. I can provide a stellar or exceptional experience by providing a stellar customer experience. Right Like, I'm going to tell you the benefits of this product and how they can apply to your life, rather than trying to sell it. And if you turn that as not a good fit, you can just shake hands and be friends at the end of the day, thank you. That's what I've done and because I do what I'm saying I'm going to do, they're on time, usually early.
Speaker 2:I've done really successful. While I was in the car business I managed to become a new car director within two years, which is pretty awesome. I left during COVID and I got in. I recruited in solar and I did exceptionally well. I got hired as manager after three months and did really well for the RGV and I got hired for California and I opened up the entire state of California and we brought a lot of records there, nice.
Speaker 2:But I'll always be hyper focused and, to be honest, a lot of micromanaging and being involved every second of the day, and that's when I was like an alcoholic and neglecting my family. So a lot of it. I wouldn't recommend to do it again. I'd be a lot more lenient and understanding. I wouldn't be working all day, every day, but I would come up with a new plan to make everybody still work as hard to make them happier. I realized that the discipline, the leadership that I had in the military, I kind of expect people to handle it well because they didn't go through the same basic training and they weren't climatized I think that's the word to use to that kind of energy leadership.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, you know stuff. No, that makes perfect sense. Discipline, that's the answer to your question. That's a really good answer to the question. I agree with that. I think that's a thousand percent. Fisher, yes, what's your favorite exercise? I'm just kidding. What are the keys to your success of how you blasted through college, which is not an easy task to do? They say it's harder for adults, for whatever reason. Maybe it's because our learning habits are what they are and whatnot. But what do you attribute your success into? You know, just blowing through college after you got out of the military.
Speaker 3:Oh, definitely hard work and determination and time management. Time management, because there's been weeks when I was going through my master's so I was like it's not that hard of a paper, I can do that. I started that on Thursday and finished it on Sunday. It won't be that hard, right, wrong, wrong. If you've got time, work on it.
Speaker 3:If you're burnt out, take the time, but not too much time, and then get back to work. I mean, even if it's hard and you know it's terrible and you feel burnt out, even if it takes you all day, take breaks. Just take some breaks. And you know, if your thoughts are becoming muddled and they're becoming, you know it's hard to like form a thought, to write a 30 page research paper then, just, you know, take your break. And if you come back and that breaks not working, take another break. And if you know you up to three breaks and it's still not working, take the rest of the day.
Speaker 3:Go, do something that makes you feel good. You know whether it's like going shopping or walking around or exercising, whatever it takes to get your head back in the game. Because you know you are paying for this. Yeah, and it costs money. And if you fail, you fail and you have to do it again and do you want, and then you have to think, do you want to do this again? That also helped me, like, do you want to do this again?
Speaker 2:Absolutely not I think that's super important. What you're saying about the breaks, too, like any aspect of life. You know like in this culture nowadays, everybody is like glamorizing the hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle kind of mentality and life and a lot of people fall victim to that and they find that they're not happy, that they're miserable and a lot of them get into depression and things like that. Yeah, because that's what I'm trying to do when they don't make time for it to everything else, it's actually important. I feel, like the older, that I'm bothered. I realize that the three most important things you know are like religion, like believing in something right.
Speaker 2:It doesn't have to necessarily be religion, but believing in something, yeah, my health and my finances. Right, I found this in there. Of course they're there at the top, but, like for myself, it's like believing in something health and my finances. Sorry, my health, my finances. So in that order, you know. Like the finances are at the bottom for me now Because, like no one's ever on your deathbed, I wish it would have been more money, right, like I wish it would have spent more time on family and I wish it was healthier to enjoy with my family and they're like, well, I wish it was more money, you know, because that's not how I want to get on with my deathbed.
Speaker 2:I'm like, nah, I'm a millionaire, but I've been like through my family Like it's the last thing I would do, and now you're in a bed all alone. Yeah, and lately I've been feeling like a little unhealthy, just kind of everything from the arguing, like my neck and my shoulders Feet have been hurting a lot and I started going to the doctor when the floor went in. I was put into the VA because of all four stories I heard and I one more time had a bed experience that I'm never going to go back. But if I finally started going, taking care of myself, spending way too much time with my family and me and Jevin are together pretty much all day. Every day I'm exhausting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just kidding, but like it kind of helped me feel like like this is what makes me happy, you know, like the hustle and the hyper focus. As soon as I achieve the goal, instead of getting happy, I get depressed Because I was so focused on the journey. When the journey ended I just crashed Because I was caught up on the success of reaching the goal. When I reached the goal, it was massive, mean Like. I was like I'm a double, and then I was like something else. I was like I never end. I was going to do a cheese, something. You want something else.
Speaker 3:That finish line wasn't a sunny sunny show. It was a dark cloud you want to extend the finish line.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I feel a big one to do. So it's faith, family fitness and then finances One, two, three, four.
Speaker 1:When it comes to fitness, you have suffered a bunch of injuries prior military injuries and stuff like that. Do you think your workout habits and routines have changed since, like the time that we were working out together, going hard in Afghanistan and the MWRs and all that, Like this month I started focusing a?
Speaker 2:lot on stretching and yoga type of things, because that's why I neglected after the army and the army they make you bend and read I've always warm-ups. I was like I'm not going to do that. When I first got out, I was stretching for like an hour, but then I was like this is the last time Almost a billion hours to work. So I used to stop at work out and leave once every stretch. So now it's cut off right on. My hamstring is always hurting, I'm cramping, my shoulder is always hurting. So I was like I got a side in yoga, so I started doing yoga and my back is up. But now, as soon as I start making it a habit, I'll get better. I still like I have to research a little bit more about aesthetics and pull, push legs, pull, push legs and I'm like, hey, I'm going to do 100 curls because by the time I hit the 50th curl it's useless.
Speaker 1:There's no point in it. It's muscle with jam. My muscles aren't building anymore. So yeah, galo is smarter. So what are your short-term, long-term goals for what you're doing, health-wise, fitness-wise? I want to hit 200 pounds.
Speaker 2:I'm like 215 right now. I just want to lose those 15 pounds of fat at muscle, but just mostly in the midsection area. This last few months on the stage, I got to do yoga in the hospital. We just lost control over our diet. We even have like meal prep every month too. So we get a meal prep lunches, but it's when we're so busy we're like, oh, just go get fast food and that's not going to help us Right, that is it.
Speaker 3:Do you process this fish? It depends on what you consider by process foods, because I buy I buy like Keto foods and potatoes, organic stuff like that but then I want to make a chicken sandwich and I'm not going to make it myself, so I go buy one that's already pre-fried and then I just stick it in the air fryer and I'm good with that, which I'm pretty sure is processed.
Speaker 2:Sorry, my process is like, sorry, fast food.
Speaker 3:No, not. I do on Tuesdays on my cheat day. Yeah, other than that, no, I have a pretty strict diet plan.
Speaker 2:Yes, do you have a go to on your cheat day.
Speaker 3:Chick-fil-A.
Speaker 2:That's not going to be 10 times.
Speaker 3:Nice, that's helpful. It is when you get, when you double size it, you know, with the large fries and the creamy salsa. Yeah, how's your?
Speaker 2:fitness menu oh man.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm glad you asked Fitness pizza, fitness pizza. I think I love pizza Pizza. Don't love me, though. I got a gluten thing. Kind of Okay, it's going great. I just finished a six day fast, probably about a week ago, about a week ago, and I felt rejuvenated. I feel rejuvenated now. I feel fantastic. I did a water only fast. I think I lost about probably 12 pounds, I think I didn't. I mean, it's all, it's all just straight body fat. So it's you know which is excellent, yeah, excellent, very much so.
Speaker 1:And yeah, so after the 72nd hour cause it sucks. You have hunger, headaches, you got stuff like that going on. But then you wake up that fourth day and you get up and it's, you feel better than you've ever felt in your life, almost. Thank you, and it's the most clear thinking you have. It's weird, it's like you feel like you're on like a sort of spiritual wavelength. Thank you, and yeah, it's crucial for me. Actually, I do one big one a year which is like up to seven days, and I try to be like three or four day ones at least twice a year, just to give, you know, my body a break and and just detox, just pound waters and flush myself out. Thank you, I find that to be very beneficial, so I'm really glad I did that.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure that I'm pumped for it to not be winter anymore, because I like running outside. I live out in Montana and I love running in the mountains and I love hiking, taking JJ out to the mountains, and I love hunting, so that's like a big part of what I do. So I'm very pumped for that. Grabbing the rucksack and hitting some trail runs and shit, taking it back, taking it back yeah, like that's what we did in our free time? We were just beast mode all the time. Those are always the worst, always the worst.
Speaker 3:Let's go run. Oh, here's 40 pounds. I didn't sign up for that. I didn't sign up for that.
Speaker 1:That sounds awful. How are your knees?
Speaker 2:My knees are fine. How are your knees? My right knee is messed up. My left knee is pretty solid.
Speaker 1:You heard the knees over toes guy Patrick. Something Do you like all those videos now, yeah, he does a lot of videos of basically repairing your knees without doing any surgery, walking backwards, yeah, yeah. And so I started doing that. I have his book here too. I started doing that like a year ago probably. My knees are like look at that, no pain, well, pepping your step there, yeah. I'll have spring chicken a little bit, it's easy now, easy Do you see this no pain, no cracks, no nothing.
Speaker 1:Look out now I swear no, I used to have a lot of knee pain, especially when I squatted. And Show me your foot, show me your foot, get more. Oh, I'm telling you. Oh, he's referring to a time in Afghanistan where we almost got into a fight because I was being my voice probably wasn't what he wanted it to be and I was telling him that he was working out wrong. And, mind you, we're both, oh, we're having this again.
Speaker 2:What, Bro? You're the best taken. Oh, that's not even illegal.
Speaker 1:Yes, it is Super. We're going to go back in time and arrest us from this tape. Come on, oh man, unfortunately. All right, we'll cut that part out. We have like five minutes. All right, we better make it good. Okay, actually, it's me All right. So we have five minutes. So we're going to close with a nice closing statement, summary thing from me, and I'm going to ask a couple of questions before we send this thing off. What are you most thankful for in your life right now, freddie?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Fisher, what are you most thankful for in your life right now?
Speaker 3:I'm going to say my family too, not because, you know, like we talked about it earlier, like every Tuesday we have like a family get together, which I immensely enjoy, which I hadn't had in like 10 years.
Speaker 2:Most families only get together and things give me. Yeah, and I see them every Tuesday.
Speaker 3:I see my nieces and see my brothers. I see my sister, I see my parents.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to. I'm a little shocked that you didn't see the me and RJ. We're the best thing in life.
Speaker 1:I mean you are, but yeah, we haven't seen you in six years.
Speaker 2:Six years.
Speaker 1:Right, you haven't seen him in six years.
Speaker 2:Me and Fisher used to live in San Antonio. Yeah, with our other friend, chris, who unfortunately passed away.
Speaker 3:Yeah, rest in peace and my other friend, Jason, also rest in peace. Yep Start calling Most grateful for.
Speaker 1:RJ and your life. I am, I'm most grateful that I have breath in my body and live today, because I got through a lot of hard things in the last year and a half and I learned so much. It's been the biggest learning experience of my life and it's changed me for the better and you haven't been around me for a while but like I've been changing. Like this touch here that's a date and it says reborn, because on that day I I heard two people so badly that I've never seen pain in like someone's eyes before like that, and that I did that and I was so destroyed by that that I could hurt somebody that bad that I just I wanted to like remind myself every day that, like you're never going to be that person. So, uh, finally changed your mindset. Yeah, very much so Good for you, brother, and uh, that you know led to a lot of other things.
Speaker 1:Like I don't drink anymore. You know it's been over a year and whatever months it's been what. Two years for you about to be on the 15th, about to be two years, and me and this dude used to go hard Frank the tank, yeah, and uh, but not anymore. And I'm just not an alcoholic. Yeah, and I were just a couple of couple of days Just hang out.
Speaker 2:Mark, before you hit us up.
Speaker 1:Exactly. But uh, first, uh, I want to say thank you for once again flying me out here. He does this because I know he knows all return the favor because I'm going to be rich not long from now, so everybody can come on my yacht no big deal. So that's why we yeah, I know yachts are fun, um, but thank you for having me, jasmine, thank you so much for having me. I look forward to this every year going forward. This is the last year, bro. We've been meaning to tell you this is the last one, uh, but no, I want to get a Tegan and Stetler and have them come out here and and these so big I know, and do some stuff. I still got pictures of you. Hold on, I actually like her age. I was going to take a picture of her. I know I'm going to go see them right after you guys.
Speaker 2:So that'll be good. Yeah, Cool guys, If you guys are trying to be influencers like us, all we recommend is staff audio books meditation.
Speaker 1:True, oh, hey, those little and those still is, those are really good, um, oh, okay, yeah. So, closing, um, let me see, uh, yeah, Um, I want to dedicate this podcast to, uh, all the people that we lost, all of the uh, our brothers, uh, soldiers, um, close friends, um, the list would be too long to go on to do. But, uh, these, this thing that I'm doing has a lot to do with that. So so, yeah, thank you guys, thank you, and we'll see you later. Yeah, cut, okay.