Do you get the time for a?
Speaker 2:dude tomorrow.
Speaker 1:No, Okay, cool, cool, cool. I know he was like crazy busy today and he told me he was like let's try for tomorrow. I'll get a hold of you in the morning, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then try to set it up.
Speaker 1:You know, I'll play it by ear. You know how to shoot it. That's exactly what it is. It's just one of those. He knows what the plan is because I briefly sent him a big description in the text message.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna group text with my boy in la and him his homie yeah, oh, because the rapper dude yeah, so so he linked us up and he's been like the middle person uh but uh, but yeah, that's, that's kind of where we left it off.
Speaker 1:He was very busy today.
Speaker 2:But he knows what the deal is. He got the whole spiel, he knows what's going on. Yeah, cool, cool, cool. I was just trying to make sure I didn't miss it, or if that was the time.
Speaker 1:You're going to know as soon as I know, because you're a part of it just as much as I am at this point. Yeah man.
Speaker 2:At this point, yeah I am at this point, yeah, man at this point, yeah, so we're here, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:We're like if I can work with somebody while I'm here, like that's awesome. I'm trying to learn as much as I can and, hell yeah, do as much as I can with every. Everything I look at is like opportunity, you know. Hell yeah, all right, uh, I don't need the flash on there like that. I don't need that. We got that. And hello, welcome to Hanging with Humans podcast. It's me, rj. I'm in Atlanta and I am here sitting with my guest Lottie. How you doing, lottie? What's?
Speaker 2:up brother, how you doing, bro. Happy to be here, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm excited to have you here. I met Lottie yesterday, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yesterday here um I met lottie yesterday.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, yesterday yesterday. Um, lottie works uh at a spot where you make grills, right? Yep, we're getting metro mart, metro mart and uh yeah, I went over there to pick up my grill and we met and right off six bottom Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1:And, uh, my boy hooked me up over here and right away I knew he was just like good vibes, like, right away, his, uh, his attitude, his way, he carried himself, just a very friendly, uh, you know, nice to talk to, very welcoming, welcoming person, appreciate it. Yeah, man, the podcast came up and he was like, how much do you charge for something like that? And I told him nothing, because it's all about the come up and the journey and trying to help people along the way, because ultimately, that's what it's about. And so, yeah, we really agreed on that and we agreed on doing a podcast, and he even moved the schedule around a little bit to make that happen. So I appreciate you doing that. And then we even got some plans to work together tomorrow, even as well, possibly. So a lot could happen in one meeting and interaction. Literally, you never know who you can meet and who you're going to become friends with and what that can bring you and what opportunities it can bring you. With that being said, thanks for being here, bro.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you, man. I'm happy to be here, like I said before, man.
Speaker 1:What I do here with the podcast is I interview people and I let them have a platform to tell their story, like where they came from, things they've gone through and uh, what their plans are now and how they're accomplishing their goals and what their goals are and uh, things you've seen along the way on your on your path and your journey, and uh, yeah, so I'm very interested in people and and how they work and uh, so, yeah, if, uh, if you don't mind, I'm gonna ask you some questions and we'll talk about a couple different topics and then we'll let you go because it's low-key, a little bit late, but not a little bit late, but you know, we made it.
Speaker 2:We made it happen. Let's do it.
Speaker 1:We're going to make it happen every time, exactly All right. So, lottie, where's that name come from? So?
Speaker 2:when we were speaking earlier. You know I was younger and I was outside all the time. So you know, lottie comes from Lottie Dottie. We like to party. But you know, when I got older I stopped partying. So then I was just like, ah, can't just be. Like, hey, what's your name? Lottie Dottie? It's like, ah, it's kind of weak, but now I'm just like Lottie.
Speaker 1:I like that.
Speaker 2:I like how it rolls off the tongue a little bit.
Speaker 1:I like that, and you were young Lottie for a minute.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was young Lottie. I started off as young Lottie because I was like 19. I was 19. I was trying to find myself. That was my like my brother. He went to college, yeah. So then it was like, well, shit, because you know who was going through the same school? For the most part, yeah. But then it was like man when he was going to everybody at the house and all my brothers accomplished these big things in life. I need to make something for myself. I don't want to be the guy that's just like oh, that's the you know, so I decided to come up with Young Lottie and I was doing photography.
Speaker 2:I started off as a photographer. Bought a little cheap, little $400, spent my last $400. Last $400. My last $400, got a Canon T6 with the kit lens. Nice, and never forget it.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:I started taking pictures and then my brother his name is DJ Cutthroat he hit me up. He told me he was like Ryan, I'm telling you, this is a job I can pay you. You know what we doing. But I was like I want to take pictures of flowers. So then he called me up and he had a single with Lil Baby and Rollo and it was called Lil Cali, in Pakistan, and he told me to come to the video shoot. Came there, Me being the person I am, I'm cool, I'm here, I'm from that area or that side of town anyway, so it was just like fuck it, Came here, take some pictures. I started networking Shot a lot of the few videos of the artists taking pictures. I started networking Shot a lot of the few videos of the artists and the people that's there.
Speaker 2:Every single one of them hit over 100K on YouTube. There you go, it's on my YouTube. So that kind of started the Because I didn't even shoot videos. Yeah, yeah, like I was like fuck it, but I'm familiar with it because I used to have like windows movie maker and if you know you know the real ones know about windows movie maker like that's like ancient now, that's like live wires yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember um, but I was familiar, so I started putting it together.
Speaker 2:And then I mean, obviously people was liking the videos, yeah so, and then that's when it transitioned to videos and stuff. But I always shoot my videos from a photography angle.
Speaker 1:I think that's super important too is like being able to come in from a different lens and-.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's amazing. So you started with photography? Yeah, now videography is your thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, videography is my thing, and I love how still like for you know jewelry is. That's my thing right now. Yeah, I don't know, it might be my thing for a while, Because what I do I will say, though, I'm always a photographer at heart, but I feel like everything still goes all hand in hand, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Cause you can do the photography to get the product shots, to get the commercials. You know, I'm saying you tap into your director side and then at the same time you type tap into your craftsmanship side of making the, the jewelry and the grills and the rings and stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah it all comes, yeah, and it's all content. So you know that's true, that's true, that's amazing. Um, so you grew up in the southwest metro Atlanta area, yeah, zone 4, Campbell's Road, southwest Atlanta, Georgia, right across from the S&S Cafeteria. S&s Cafeteria. What was life like growing up there around that time for you?
Speaker 2:It was cool. It was cool, but it was like my grandma's house. Like my grandma's house was on honeysuckle and we don't have that somewhere, of course.
Speaker 2:But and then my mom, they bought the house with my mom and dad, but they bought the house like right next door to it. So we had the, the strict, the old, the grandpa, you can't go outside, can't go down the street, because you know you are on campus, bro, you can't be out here, just out here. Yeah, yeah, but you know what I'm saying. We had our fair share of, like, good experiences going to the park, but my dad would have us to wash the cars and do all this slavery work and, uh, to be able to go to like the pool or go to go across the street. You know what I'm saying. But it was a lot of character building moments. But I will say, like it definitely had his, had his ups, it had a lot of ups, that's had a lot of ups.
Speaker 1:That is good. You did a lot of moving around because your mom and dad got divorced, yeah.
Speaker 2:So they split, and this one was on Kemper. They split, I believe, 2001? Because 9-11 was 2002?.
Speaker 1:Yep, we talked about it, or 2001.
Speaker 2:No 9-11 was 2001. Yep, we talked about it. Or 2001. No, 911 was 2001. Yep, yeah, okay, so, yeah, so they split 2001 Christmas turning 2002. So, whatever that was. So what was in?
Speaker 1:Texas in 2002? You went to Texas, yeah.
Speaker 2:I went to.
Speaker 1:Texas. Went to Frisco, texas, yeah, and I want you to share a little story here in a second. Yeah, and I want you to share a little story here in a second. Before we get into that, what was the experience like as a whole in Frisco and in Plano and the other when you lived in Texas, though?
Speaker 2:It was Texas. It was Texas was fucking Texas. Yeah, like Texas was. It was like. I see why people say don't mess with Texas, don't mess with Texasxas you know I'm saying but it was.
Speaker 2:It was definitely like a. It was like a complete 180, though, because it's like you're in a hood in campbellton and you can't you can't even go down the block, yeah, but in texas we can. We can go out and play outside and have fun, and you just got to be back before the street lights come on. Yeah, yeah, so it was cool, fun wise, like being in, like frisco and stuff like that, because now it's like you're experiencing life regardless. Rather, you just like being like confined to just what this one area or have to do all this extra stuff just to have a normal life, kind of thing, and I thought that I was normal. I thought it was normal like growing up in it, but getting out of that environment and experiencing other things is like that's what was like. Oh, this is different. Life don't have to be like that's everything.
Speaker 2:So that was the the first like eye-opener, kind of kind of thing of living in frisco, but it was still texas early 2000, so it was still like you're black yeah, and you're in frisco and this is before. Like I said before, the skyscrapers, the colors, all this. There was no money in frisco it was just land, rural, it was very rural.
Speaker 2:It was very rural. It was nice, though, because we get to have experiences and stuff, but it was very rural. That's what I learned about race, because in Atlanta everybody's black, but in Texas, especially in Frisco, it was a lot of white people. It was a lot of not even Mexicans. It was a lot of white people. It was a lot of not even Mexicans. It was a lot of white people, the majority. But that's when I learned how to talk to other people. That's not black Versus, we just kind of only dealing with certain type of people.
Speaker 2:That's when I became like, oh, there's Indians, there's Mexicans, there's blah, blah, blah. So now, that's when I became more versatile, yeah, with talking to everybody. Yeah, but it was crazy, it was still, it was a Culture shock. It was a culture shock, yeah, it was a culture shock, like from being everybody's black to being the only two black kids in the school, in the school, in the school, in the school, school, and the school was crazy.
Speaker 1:That's crazy, it is that is a that's upside down.
Speaker 2:It's super upside down, but it was like, I was like that black fritz to the, to the everybody.
Speaker 1:That's also very cool. You know what I'm saying? I was that guy, so it was a lot of people loved the culture like no matter what so and then I'm from atlanta, so it was like yeah, yeah, yeah, like no matter what, and then I'm from Atlanta, so it was like, oh my God, ti, ti was popping.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? He was going crazy, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Damn. Yeah, that's crazy. So what's okay that story. It was the kid in the class and how you kind of got.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. Texas was cool, but it was also like being the only two black kids in school was like there was another black kid and he was a special needs, cool, cool, like cool kid. But you can honestly tell, like you know what I'm saying he going to need a little help or something like that. But I'm such a gentle soul, like I'm cool with everybody, I don't care what anybody is, because at the end of the day, it is what it is. You know what I'm saying. But I didn't like the fact how they were trying to this is people with Frisco. They were trying to make it seem like I was the same as him, kind of, in a sense, not to say we're completely different, different, but it's like you don't have to talk to me, like yeah, like I don't understand what you're what you're saying, yeah and that's when it came to like picking on me because I was different from everybody else.
Speaker 2:So that was my first experience of like discrimination. Yeah, I wouldn't even say racism, yeah, but I would definitely say like they wasn't really trying to rock with me like that so then I got sent back to georgia because they were trying to put me in alternative school. My mom was like y'all not gonna do that damn.
Speaker 1:I can imagine that, as a mother too, being like hey, you're not special needs kid, we're trying to put him in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're trying to put him in attorney school because like what he's a, but it's like I'd be a class clown, you know so yeah but it was like you're gonna put me in attorney school for making a joke like.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. I mean, were you like acting out or you actually being a bad?
Speaker 2:I wasn't like I wasn't acting out, but it was like if you told me to sit down, I might be like, yeah, like well, we're fucking, uh fucking. Connor's not sitting down. Connor's not sitting down. What do I get? Like? Why I gotta sit down? Why, out of everybody, why I gotta be one, they gotta sit. It was like one of those kind of things you just gotta know it did.
Speaker 1:Uh, did you get out to texas? Was it because the military moving situation or did you have family out there? No, it was the divorce.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the divorce situation. So it was like was she like my mom? Well, no, no, we have to have family out there. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we do have family out there. Her mom, my mom's older, so it's like her family is pretty much like all gone, like parents is. Her dad was 103, and her mom was I don't even know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're telling me that's crazy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So my brother, my oldest brother, he was out there in Texas, but I believe her mom or her grandma was out there too, like in West Dallas.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it was like Dallas, oak Cliff kind of thing, and I believe that's why my mom probably felt comfortable going to Texas, because you know there was some types of family there. Yeah, because her family was gone, because she's from like Columbus but there's not really.
Speaker 1:It's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot, man, it's a lot of hopping around, but that's what?
Speaker 2:I guess the military that's what brought them, because my dad from south carolina and he was an army, he was, uh, he, he flew blackhawks, oh nice. So he was a pilot, yeah, yeah, and then my mom was the it air force kind of, but then she switched it with the army and that's when she met my dad.
Speaker 1:A lot of military, not military life. Yeah, uh, was that cool for you? Or did you not enjoy moving that often?
Speaker 2:no, it was always dope, it was dope. Only thing I had to say that, uh, which I don't regret now, but at the time I was just like damn, like getting moving every two years because, that was pretty much like the contract or whatever. Moving every two years was like just kind of like like moving states every two years. So it was like damn, like I was in texas and now I'm in alabama or now I'm in.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm saying things you appreciate now though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the stuff I appreciate now is like, yeah, that was definitely much needed. That was definitely like it taught me a lot.
Speaker 1:Taught me a lot going right through life. Uh, you went to texas. Uh, what's 2002, 2003? What were you doing around?
Speaker 2:no, that's still texas so that's right yeah that's still texas 2003. I got sent down because it was like a apparently it was half a semester but I had to stay with my dad and that shit felt like I swear that shit felt like it was like two years.
Speaker 1:That was in Atlanta. That was in Atlanta.
Speaker 2:I came back to Camelton because they were still living there For mine remember my mom just not escaped, but escaped, kind of thing because it was like they broke up and my dad was tripping so for her to escape and then have to like send me back because they're putting me in alternative school from him. It's kind of like damn. Now, now thinking of it as an adult, it's like damn, like that's a big risk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I'm saying because it's like you know, but everything worked out went down there.
Speaker 2:That shit was like fucking boot camp, literally. It was like boot camp, bro.
Speaker 2:And then, uh, then my mom ended up moving down with my brother, and then they came down but, that time, before they came, it was just me and my stepbrother, because he was dating somebody else at the time. And, um, yeah, that's like oh, three or four, yeah, it's just like oh, three or four, and that was, she was dating somebody, he was dating somebody else at the time. And, uh, that's when I had a stepbrother. Yeah, he was in. Uh, he was also, you know, he stayed over there, so he was, uh, he went to Westlake, so he's still Southwest Atlanta, but he's still. He taught me how to dance, taught me how to talk to girls, taught me that whole spiel without being my blood, but he treated me as blood.
Speaker 1:So that's when.
Speaker 2:I realized, like okay, just because you're not blood, don't mean that you're not family, because there's people who not related to you, who really gonna do everything they can for you, just just because you know, that's really out there. So that's when I was experiencing that kind of thing, because you know, at first it's like we was talking you know your family and that's it, and that's pretty much you know. But there's people out here that's. They're gonna treat you better than your family sometimes you know, learn a lot of things from other people.
Speaker 2:That's matching, that's facts.
Speaker 1:So I I spent a lot of my life, uh, on my own, you know, basically, and I had.
Speaker 1:That's how I have a lot of other families that I like consider family you know like close people like I consider family we don't share the same blood, but close people like I consider family we don't share the same blood, but they would do more for me than you know anybody, right, yeah, which is crazy, but that's. But I love it, though, and that's like and I've traveled so much and you travel a lot like you get to find that and build that, because you don't know what's out there until you leave, right, right, literally, uh, that's the thing that we uh kind of have in common as well a lot of traveling and understanding how important that is for, like, personal growth and chasing your goals and things like that. Do you want to speak a little bit about, like, what traveling has done for you?
Speaker 2:I felt like traveling open. It expanded my mind at an early age because shit, from 96 to I think I was like five, six, you know what I'm saying Going across the country. You were from Georgia to Texas, that's across the country. You know what it is Like damn you're halfway there, you know. So it was like just experiencing and being in a car on a long ride, Like that's why I can drive anywhere.
Speaker 1:I can hit the city.
Speaker 2:My limit is 16 hours. Anything over 16 hours I'm like all right.
Speaker 1:Might have to take a break. You know what's up, bro, but you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:But I can do a 16-hour road trip easy. I know what to do. There's no stopping you. Better have a big cup you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:You know how to do it, bro.
Speaker 2:But traveling definitely opened my eyes and then, especially when I got my passport. I got my passport and that's when, that's when shit really changed Really. That's when shit really changed. That's when it was like America's cool. But you can also take this shit for granted, because over there it's not. I went to DR and they was like you have a microwave, we don't have no microwave. They said this is the Dominican microwave. It was basically an oven, but it was a damn. It was just some cement Nigga, it was fire you feel me it was a fire, it was a damn fire, it was a damn.
Speaker 2:it was just some cement it was, it was some, it was, it was fire. But you know what I'm saying? I love and appreciate shit like that, because it was just like dumb folks really out here have to make a fire like and you out here complaining about your curtains and shit.
Speaker 1:They don't have curtains, they don't have. You know what I'm saying? They don't even got a toilet. What are you talking about? They don't even got a toilet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's cool though, like it really. I think DR was really. That's where I really like changed my outlook on things Like I wanted to get land, I wanted to get my pilot license. And then look on things like wanted to get land, wanted to get my pilot license, oh because. And then, uh, circling back with my dad, he had a flight simulator as. So as a kid you know that's just expensive as fuck.
Speaker 2:Like, imagine, like early 2000 with a goddamn you know a legit one legit one, like it came with a manual and a damn like license, you know because it was you know so, from flying planes on the little uh, the game or the simulator or whatever to learning, it's like I have to, bro, like I want it, like if shit hit the fan, I want to be able to fly out of america. Yeah, you know. Yeah, you don't want to be like I'm stuck here and it's like you could have. You could have had land someplace else and then you've been cool off your land, yeah but you can't even get to your land, because you don't know how to get there, because you can't fly yeah so, but traveling, I love traveling, open my eyes to a lot of things, and it made me very uh, open-minded.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, uh, dominican, what's your, uh, what's your favorite place that you think you've gone to to visit?
Speaker 2:we gotta be dr yeah, like we went to dr, been in jamaica, uh, been to mexico a few times, nice, yeah, puerto rico, but dr was like, because it was, that was a culture shock too. Yeah, because it was like have you ever been?
Speaker 1:no, okay, well, basically I'll be there one day. Right, you're gonna be there one day, it's not.
Speaker 2:It's not too shabby either, because it was like everybody's like black yeah but they're just cunk and they got it, like the haitians and dr yeah no, the haitians and the Dominicans. My bad, when I went there and they gave us the tour and my tour guide I forgot his name, but he was super dope.
Speaker 2:He really broke down the real, real history the fact that Haiti and DR is separated by a fucking boulder, just one big ass rock it's like they really hate each other, yeah, one was talking about a french one was talking about a spanish yeah uh, the spaniards and like, for example, what was uh me and my fiance we was at uh some excursion, like one of them catamaran kind of things, but uh, you know they was trying to the haitians.
Speaker 1:He was trying to sell his whatever, trying to you know whatever, trying to get some money or whatever for the tourists.
Speaker 2:But the Dominicans was like get the fuck out. It was like some gangbang. It was like some Bloods and Crips, shit, I swear to God. And it was just like bro we're all black here, bro he's trying to make his money, just like how you're trying to make your money. If he came up to me first, you feel me.
Speaker 2:You should have been on it, yeah, but it's like he was outnumbered by the Dominicans because he's in DR, so they really treat him like shit, Damn. And I didn't realize that until like I seen it. I was like damn, that shit's everywhere. That's crazy. But it's because the Dominicans believe that they're superior because I think the Spaniards have more money. And then you know, haiti lost their independence and all that stuff.
Speaker 2:Well Haiti gained their independence and all that stuff from fighting off the shit, but the DR they still running by whatever, so they're like fuck it. We don't really give a fuck about supplying their wolf whatever, so it sucks, but it's like y'all separated by a fucking rock. It's the same land and y'all treating each other like it was just crazy. So that was a culture shock, but it's really just a whole bunch of black people speaking Spanish.
Speaker 1:Like he looked just like me, just speaking Spanish, and he was just fucking speaking Spanish. I was like, yeah, that was crazy Dang. Yeah, that had to have been an experience for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it was like because I thought it was going to be like oh okay, you know some Hispanic people, they look Hispanic yeah. Yeah, yeah, this looked like a regular black man.
Speaker 1:He blightman. He just speaks spanish, so it was like that it was. It was dope bro, you gotta go. I want to check it out. I know I'm gonna go to puerto rico. Uh, my boy, uh man, why?
Speaker 2:have you forgotten his name?
Speaker 1:uh, but one of the homies, he's got a. He just bought a house out there and he's like come out, everything's on. You know, come chill, you got a place to stay, I'll show you around puerto rico puerto rico. Yeah, I'm gonna do like a thursday to a monday or something like that.
Speaker 2:That's definitely long enough yeah, where's he at, like san juan yep, yep, yep, yeah, but go to it he just tore stuff like on the side.
Speaker 1:He was in the military, but like he's out now he does that that's lit. Yeah, um, yeah, I know, but traveling, I think it's a huge part of just like growth and finding new perspective and always looking for like the next step in life. Yeah, um, I know another major shift in your life happened when you had your first kid. What was that moment like? And and uh, kind of explain what did change.
Speaker 2:Because it was like yeah, it's like to be completely transparent. Man, this is how, this is how it can happen to people, and I want people to like look at my story and be like damn, you know what I'm saying, cause shit happens, but it's life, so you just roll with it. But this is also how you're supposed to like handle your responsibilities and deal with it. Deal with the shit. So mess around with a girl. You know what I'm saying? This is my baby mama now. Mess around with a girl. You know what I'm saying? This is my baby mama now Mess around with her.
Speaker 2:And my mom always put me on game, which is why I was always slipping, and this is why it can happen to anybody. Because I was the one out of the friend group that was like fuck no, I ain't having no kids, I ain't doing none of that shit, because I know how shit be. And seeing how my older brothers like experienced that, it was like fuck no, I'm not gonna do it, I ain't doing none of that. So, and I don't have no siblings under me. So it was like I'm not gonna take care of you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying so, um she, she told me she couldn't get pregnant, kind of thing which is a major red flag. That was the first red flag my mama always told me as elementary't get pregnant kind of thing, which is a major red flag. That was the first red flag my mama always told me as elementary school. She said if a girl ever tell you that they can't get pregnant, run from it, don't believe it. Damn it but she was showing like documents.
Speaker 1:Oh man.
Speaker 2:Like something's wrong, something like shit. So part of me and I'm young, I'm like 19. So part of me and I'm young, I'm like 19. So part of me is like damn, she really can get pregnant.
Speaker 1:She's on paperwork. She pulling up the Gucci paperwork.
Speaker 2:So I'm like shit, this is free game, this is awesome.
Speaker 1:I'm not trying to get you pregnant. Anyway, you can't get pregnant, yeah man, I'm about to shoot the club.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah so what's my calling um? She gets pregnant like not even like hard like it was, like it was like easy, like something just boom, just shot you know it was just like oh, so mine just happened to just be the cure of it.
Speaker 1:What about that paperwork?
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying what about the paperwork? What about the paperwork? So she gets pregnant. And then I was like so you know me, I'm like, you know, I'm Mr Plan B, you know what I'm saying? We can go ahead and go to the CVS, real quick spend the 50.
Speaker 1:Or CVS, real quick spend the 50.
Speaker 2:Or if you know about the other one, you know you spend the 35 or the 40. You know, but it was apparently, you know, it was too late after that and she was like I'm pregnant, so I'm like shit, we can, you know, let's go to the, you know, yep. And she was like no, I'm not, I'm not with that, I'm not with that, yep. So I was like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, not, you know, not saying that, you know.
Speaker 1:Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Speaker 2:But when she said that instantly I was like, yeah, it's fucked up, it's over.
Speaker 1:Like it's a wrap.
Speaker 2:Like the life is over. Yep, it's over, because now I got to go prove my mom wrong about. Like no, she's not like that. She wouldn't do that. She did all of that shit.
Speaker 1:Everything mom said, so this is a lesson learned man.
Speaker 2:Don't ever believe that shit. No matter if she got paperwork or anything, don't ever believe it. But if it happens, bro, at the end of the day, ain't nobody tell you to do what you did, bro, true that? So, just accept your responsibilities and just deal with it, because now me and my daughter are cool as fuck there you go yeah, there it is.
Speaker 1:That's the best advice you'll get on this piece right here. That's what's up, so you go through that process. What things did you learn from becoming a father and what did that look like for you? Because you and the baby mom are not together right now, correct?
Speaker 2:yeah so um a lot of growing up quick, I assume, right, yeah, it was like but see that that was also the um, the difference in um, the difference in between my choice and like other people's choices. Yeah, because at first ain't a lot like. I used to think, like when people be having baby mama, drummers and shit, I was like they're like you, you doing some dumb ass shit. Like you know, I'm saying like're clearly you're gonna get mad, but you wanna come home at four in the morning and you got a pregnant baby mama here and you talking about you going out with your you know what I'm saying so I'm like obviously it's your fault, but I feel like if you was cool then you wouldn't have that problem.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I still have that fucking problem. So it was like it was ass, but it was um, it was, it was, it was a time man, it was a fucking time it was a time because it was like I made the choice to she's pregnant.
Speaker 2:When I said my life is over, I I was like I have to get my shit together. That's true, I have to get my shit together. I have to do something. I have to be a great example because I'm not going to come from this strong, powerful bloodline and be a fucked up dad or be like a you know what I'm saying Irresponsible, irresponsible. So I was like fuck it, I'm going to get it and, you know, did everything I can. Went to every appointment. You know what I'm saying. I was that guy Like you know what I'm saying. I was that dude. I went to every fucking appointment Because I was lit, because I was like, at the end of the day, I'm thinking because I ain't want to do that two-parent household shit, yeah, so I was like man, whatever we got going on, we're gonna work it out, yeah we're gonna do our part.
Speaker 2:So I went to every appointment pay for everything, you know I'm saying, knew a couple people that was, you know, had hookups. Yeah, I was getting the hookups, you know I'm saying, and three months after she got there, was born and she broke up. Yeah, what the was what?
Speaker 2:another dude who was, who turned out to be her second baby daddy yeah and you know what I'm saying fiance too, he proposing everything, but it was like she kind of like took the baby and kind of like tried to push you out the way, type shit, and try to let him come in. And then it was like you know that shit. But so then it's like you have to build the what's it called A new relationship. No, when you have to like, when you never experience some like, you never experience some shit like that. So you have to like prepare yourself. Never experience some like you, never experience some like that, so you have to like prepare yourself.
Speaker 1:There's no way to prepare yourself for that.
Speaker 2:But yeah, you got to go through that. You got to go like you got to deal with your daughter calling another person dad and yeah, being around and you want to be around but you're not even allowed to be around because the mom's not letting you. It's like this nigga around. It's like who the fuck is this nigga you know, kind of thing. Sorry to say it like that. No, you're good, you're good.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, life is unexpected, you know, yeah, that's facts. But I think as human beings we're like the most adaptable things and we can you, you know, like we have it in us to to change in our environment, to that environment, like we're really special creatures and and, uh, I don't know. I'll talk about like the spirituality stuff in a little bit. But uh, before we go into that, uh, your first jobs were like mcdonald's right uh, yeah, I got fucking.
Speaker 2:No, my first fucking job ever. I worked at a U-Haul. I was lit Because I remember I told you like $7.25 was like minimum wage yeah, minimum wage, yeah. And I think they was paying like $11. And I was like I'm fucking rich, yeah, I'm rich $11 an hour.
Speaker 2:So, because you know, everybody else paychecks like 200, like my paycheck is like 400, oh, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like I'm fucking up, I'm old and I'm only eating mcdouble's and small fry. I am old, bro, you're doing it. Um, got fired from that shit. I guess I suck. I guess I suck, but I learned how to drive like big ass, like box trucks, yeah, yeah. So now I can easily drive 26 footer truck, easy, like I can drive a big ass. I can drive a camper, no problem. There you go, but from you. And then I got, uh, started working at mcdonald's and then I worked at finish line at cumberland, there you go.
Speaker 2:And then that's when I was doing that.
Speaker 1:On your own jobs, as in your hustle, as in your grind, on your path. Tell me a little bit how you got into the grills, the business of that, okay cool.
Speaker 2:So around the time see, that's what happened the grills happened, happened, the grills happened. The grills happened because I was having my grills in and I was feeling myself, cause this was still around 1920, remember, I told you.
Speaker 1:It was about that time.
Speaker 2:I had the fucking grills in and I found my baby mama. That's what happened. So, around that time, how I got into it, because I kept buying the grills. I kept buying my grills from SETI it was SETI's gold tee I don't know if it's still there, no more, it's in a little five points on the corner and kept buying a little cheap ass. Well, it wasn't cheap, it was still like $2. Now, knowing what I was, the quality, what I was getting and me doing it, now I was like, ah, you just get over, all get me yeah but uh, he knew what he was doing, he knew what he was doing, just just taking my money, taking your money.
Speaker 1:So you're still feeling yourself, though yeah, I was still feeling so.
Speaker 2:It was good for like the first two months. And then, you know, I started looking all wrong and shit, but uh, well, what you gonna call it. Um, I was buying grills. And then I stopped going to seti and I started going to this other guy his name was, uh, kenny and greenbrier. He was in greenbrier discount mall and I kept buying. I was buying silver at the time. I was silver, uh, a type a diamond cut. I was one of those guys, nice. So then I kept losing them, kept putting them in the napkin, kept putting them in my pocket, had open faces. It bent. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, because I didn't care, because it was like, okay, I'll just buy another one. Yeah. And then that's when he was like you buy so many grills, you might as well learn how to make them like joking yeah but I was like okay, and he was like are you serious, like you really want to?
Speaker 2:oh my, yeah, I'm not working I'm fucking like.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah like.
Speaker 2:So I was just hanging out at the uh, the jewelry shop and I always was like amazed on the craftsmanship that goes in behind, like being like a bench jeweler and stuff like that, because it's like, bro, you're really making some shit, you're melting and maneuvering metals and making a damn cumulant or making a wing or making a grill like you're making.
Speaker 2:You're doing a lot of shit yeah, it makes some grills and I feel like people don't really understand, like, like the stuff that goes into making a grill, because you got to be damn near a dentist to get them, to get the mold impression, yeah, and then you got to know how to cast and then you got to know how to melt down golds and materials, so it's like there's a lot that goes into it, yeah, and then you pop them on, yeah but you know, that is a lot.
Speaker 1:I didn't know it was like the other shit like it's like bro, it's like I didn't know. It was like that.
Speaker 2:It was like fuck, I'm like, damn, it's like this. That's crazy, it's a lot hotter than what I thought you just pop me in real quick right, but um yeah. So I started like interning with him and he took me in like showed me everything like I'll always respect him. He's always show love like. Showed me everything Like I'll always respect him. He's always show love Like. And he's seen my firstborn when you know, when she was like infant. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So now it's like fucking like finna be nine, like that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So he's been around, he's been there for you.
Speaker 2:He's been there, it's like good been there. He's been there, it's like good, that's good. You know what I'm saying. So that's one of your mentors in in that sense. Yeah, in that sense, as far as the jury, the doing, that he's, he's definitely, he's pretty much it like he's. That's that's all I really needed, kind of thing I had like, of course, like people inspirations, like johnny dang and Dang and Crime Rules and people that's doing this stuff in Houston, because we had somebody his name was Eddie Gold. I still want to meet him to this day because he was the grill guy in Atlanta back in the 90s and early 2000s, stuff like that.
Speaker 2:I think he stopped, though I don't know, but he was the guy. You know what I'm saying and I feel like I keep having this vision of me being like that cool guy I feel like I'm gonna be like the guy, but I always wanna I still want to meet a man like of this generation. I want to be the eddie goes yeah you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:keep them dreams, just like that, bro. You got it. That'd be cool. That'd be cool, hey, if you can envision it and see it, then that's already.
Speaker 2:I feel like I feel like it's. That's what's happening, though, because it's like I'm already cool yeah, and it's like why would you not want to get your grill from somebody that's from atlanta, in atlanta? Yeah so it's like it doesn't get no bread, like I'm not the guy that you gotta, I do the molds and I send it off. It's an experience me. I cut my own damn thing trying to make your shit because you got tiny little crooked teeth tiny little crooked teeth dang.
Speaker 1:So is the impression that? Did that take a while for you to learn how to do that correctly? Hell yeah, I was so ass.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was ass damn how hard is it?
Speaker 2:like, like everything is real sensitive, like everything is like you only got one shot and if you fuck it up, you fuck it up, yeah, and but that's the thing. It's like it's really a trade and that's why I feel like I really appreciate it more because, mind you, working at a metro mart, I just started working there like march. So shit, a month, like you know what I'm saying, it's really a month. I've been there for a month, so, but it's it's. It's a um, it's really a trade man, because I'm so much better than what I'm doing now. And he's in H, you know the guy I work with my boss.
Speaker 2:He's telling me like shout out to H man, he's a nice dude.
Speaker 2:He's a nice dude man, but he told me like you have to polish like a hundred times. But I know like my mom. She used to tell me, like back back in the day, that in order to be a master, you gotta, you gotta do it. You gotta put in 10,000 hours. I think that's what she used to say. She's gonna you. You need to put either a thousand or ten thousand hours to master the masters. Yeah, and that's a lot of fucking hours like because he was like.
Speaker 2:He wanted me to do like a. He wanted me to polish a hundred grills, because you know that's the only how you're gonna be able to get better is if you're actually doing it.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. So it's the work nobody wants to do, but you gotta do it yeah, you gotta do it.
Speaker 2:That's the only. That's. The only way you're gonna get better is if you do it, kind of thing so the melting down process is that difficult?
Speaker 1:hell? No, that's just lit, is it?
Speaker 2:it's literally like you got this big ass blowtorch and you're just like melting down gold, bro, just imagine.
Speaker 1:You're just in this bitch like fire flame. You can make sick videos with that. I did. I got in a slow-mo. Yeah, it's super slow-mo too, and it's like when you melt down gold.
Speaker 2:It turns into like a little golden bubble.
Speaker 1:You know what damn. I put it like a slow-mo, so it was like switching around. That's tight, that's it, that's tight dude. So, yeah, that that's amazing, man. I'm really I'm excited to like that we met and we're able to chill and now I can watch this journey of yours and it's, it's tight man right, bro, and you're gonna be right there.
Speaker 2:Damn right, you'll be right there, man.
Speaker 1:You right, you'll be right there, man, you're going to be my grill guy for life, Right For life, the homie for life, anybody. Yeah. So if anybody wants to get a grill, you can come down to Atlanta and go see my boy, Lottie. Maybe, man Mr Same, day Mr Same.
Speaker 2:Day, mr, same Day Grills, you made it happen, I definitely made it, we made it happen. Made it happen, missed the same day, man, I love it, bro.
Speaker 1:So influences you having brothers. That was pretty big for kind of guiding you in those teenage plus years. What did you learn?
Speaker 2:from your brothers I learned what to do and what not to do In a very vague but simple way. I feel like I don't know. I feel like that speaks a lot. It's like, you know, having brothers, I saw every last one of them like mistakes or like decisions that they could have did differently, yeah, and I've seen how it affects them. But since it's not my choice that made the decision, I'm able to see how their life played out with dealing with that situation. But it also taught me, like, like, for example, with my other uh brother, he um got a relationship. He was in relationship for seven years with this girl, had no intentions of marrying her because he knew that like it wasn't that. But at this point, bro, you just wasted seven years of your life yeah, girl, that you have no intentions to do yeah, yeah
Speaker 2:yeah and he's uh, um, still. Then it's like you get out of that relationship and it was a toxic one. So then you got out of that relationship. Then you thinking that you know what I'm saying you, finna, go meet somebody new. Now the new person ain't as bad as the old person, but this new person's still shit, still shitty, shitty, ass like super shitty.
Speaker 2:And now you done spent two years with this person. It's not even nine years gone. You done spent your whole 20s, early 20s, in a fucked up relationship, not really experiencing shit because you're trying to deal with that. But that like you got me fucked up If you think I'm finna waste nine years seven to nine years with somebody, and not be that, I'd rather it be like look, if we ain't doing it, then we ain't doing it. You know what I'm saying. I just you know not to say I wish they didn't get pregnant, but it was like you know, because when you have a baby with somebody now you're tired of them and it's like I really got to deal with your ass Instead of just like not having no kids and if that's it, you're done. You're done. You just learned from your situation and you know everything's a lesson to be learned True.
Speaker 1:At least you got to look at it that way. Some people don't yeah, people don't.
Speaker 2:But I definitely do, because seeing how everybody's own situation plays out, it's like you know what's going to happen, but at the same time, it's a lot of pressure on you, because it's like my mom always say you can't say that you didn't know. Yeah, you've seen it. You've seen it plenty of times. Yeah, you experience it or know somebody that did it. So you're not gonna sit here and act like it's not able to happen. You still chose to do it, so you just gotta you know you gotta deal with it sleep with the bed you made.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you gotta sleep in the bed you made um you uh so hospitality yeah about. So I guess I'm curious with uh, you're very good with people, you're very outgoing and you have a good vibe now yeah, did any of that come from that, from the hospitality services?
Speaker 2:yeah, it forced me like my first, uh, because maybe I was working at mcdonald's and finish line. And then I started, uh, I worked at the west end by the airport. It was my first hotel job and I wasn't even supposed to, bro, I wasn't even supposed to work at the hotel job. I went up there there for the valet because my friend, my, my step brother's friend, was working there, so he was my recommendation, like my referral, and I went up there, did the interview. My license was so shitty because I had like put it like this I think you gotta have like either 15 or 13 points. I think I had 12. You know, I'm saying super speeders, damn. So I'm doing valet so I'm thinking like, oh okay, I paid a ticket, whatever you know but.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that I was gonna play a factor on my life. I know that shit. But he was like you're such a like cool guy or such a great kid yeah that I want.
Speaker 2:I think you should work here. So then that's when I applied for the hotel and I was uh, they called a pbx operator. I was the one. You, when you call the hotel, you pick up the phone. I was that dude, and I'm. Every time you call room service, I was that dude. So I'm dealing with fucking fuck ass room service orders and people upset blah, blah, blah, or people can't find, uh, because we're by the airport so we're super busy.
Speaker 2:So the ground transportation they got shuttles, people yelling at me because the shuttle ain't there, because everybody, nobody cares about who's on the other side of the phone. You know, I'm saying and I'm in the back of the hotel, so you're not gonna see me at the front there. So nobody cares, so I learned how to deal with all that, yeah, and but that's how I learned how to like, I guess, talk to people more, because I'm forced to talk to people on the phone.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So when? But I always wanted to be on the front desk because I like I'm a people person, don't just put me in a fucking cubicle. Yeah, you gotta answer people. But then I worked at the Aloft downtown and that was like my first front desk position. And then that's when I was, you know, dealing with a lot of people, met a lot of you know artists. I met Lil Pump. What? Yeah, I met Lil Pump from that shit man that's funny.
Speaker 2:He fucking um. They came, stayed at a hotel, they had a show in Atlanta. I feel that everything had a show with Yachty in Atlanta. But I used to be with Yachty all the time because his I think they're still cool now though, but at the time his name was Burberry Perry, and he made One Night. He made the beat for One Night, which was Yachty's like big song.
Speaker 1:So they was always together. Rob Markman. Yeah, yeah, rob Markman. And I was his friend, so I was like fuck it, come here Rob Markman.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, Rob Markman. And so what was I doing with that? What was?
Speaker 1:I doing with that, the Fort Yachty concert. Oh, yeah, lil Pump, yeah, lil Pump.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, so, Lil Pump. He came to the hotel they had a show in Atlanta and they had, like some, they booked a room through like Hotwire or some shit, yeah, and you know the guy, uh, they got that brand awful lot of cough syrup. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think his name is like dust, dust or whatever the fuck his name is. Yeah, yeah, but um, that dude you know he was, he was around a little pump at that time, like before the boom gang and all that yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So when he was popping.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so he, um, they was all there and you know me being the guy I am. They they was like, well, he had no rooms and I know who these niggas are.
Speaker 1:I'm like bro, this is.
Speaker 2:We got to get these guys. We got to get these guys in the room. These fucking celebrities. There's no way. We can't.
Speaker 1:Yeah. At the same time, it's like it makes something happen, why you didn't have your room Too much lean.
Speaker 2:So, you know, what I'm saying Like who's handling? Who's the tour guy? Who's in charge?
Speaker 1:of the shit. Yeah, who's in charge of the shit?
Speaker 2:So now tell you what? We ain't got no rooms ready, but I can put y'all in the engineering room right now, like a maintenance room type shit, and y'all can go in there, you can shower, y'all can change, but you gotta let me go to the concert like you gotta let me film the concert.
Speaker 2:Oh, they said, gave me a fucking wristband. I followed the. Uh, the bus behind park went. I got the whole backstage experience. Oh and um, I met my favorite uh vfx editor ever in fucking life. His name is uh gibson hazard. If you don't know who that is, bro, look at his videos. Bro, I will.
Speaker 2:I'd like that super fire and um filmed the freaking show and had some friends I called my friends. That's like bro, because I was. I was a photographer dude and I didn't shoot videos and shit at this time. So I was like, man, I'm going to take your pictures. My other guy he actually shoots videos but he don't take pictures. And the other white guy, he was our friend, His name was Brett and shit, he had to whip. I mean, he was fucking Brett.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? He was mobbing everybody. You feel me. So who was? Who was the?
Speaker 2:I called them instantly like bro, this is our opportunity, yeah you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:I never yeah.
Speaker 2:That just goes to show you the type of person I was. I'll call my friends up. It was like, bro, I'm gonna sink y'all in, yeah, because I'm supposed to be with them, so, hopefully, like just y'all, just yeah, fuck it yeah, like you know, let's do it yeah, so um, filmed that concert and then that ended up popping off, you know, because that's when I realized Atlanta's like a cloud-based city and because once they started seeing me do stuff with a lot of celebrities, that's when they was like oh, you're actually fired.
Speaker 2:I'm like we're fucking with you now. I've been, you know, kind of been doing shit, I've been that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does take that right. Somebody didn't notice you, somebody put you on or something, something. Either way, it's self-made, though, right like it's still self-made, yeah because it's like you, you, that hotel moment, like that was you, that was, that was me.
Speaker 2:Knowing that moment, I wouldn't even have been there, bro, like I really I really wouldn't, I really wouldn't have been there and I snuck my friends into.
Speaker 1:I was a real one, bro yeah, it sounds like it was a real snuck my friends into. I was a real one bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it sounds like it. I snuck you into a backstage at a little pop concert.
Speaker 1:That's the homie. Come on, bro, I fuck you bro.
Speaker 2:You're a real one.
Speaker 1:That's tight, though that's when shit got popping right around there.
Speaker 2:That's when I started. I still got it on my YouTube to this day too. That was my first video. I swapped my lens out. I ended up getting like a 50 millimeter and just to make it all super clear and clean because you know, kit lens suck, yeah. Yeah. So upgrading my little lens, shit was clean and crispy, it was fire, but then it was like my friends started hating and it was like that's, that's the part that was asked, because if, if I'm a we're all up right, kind of thing but, then that's when I had to learn how to deal with, like you know, like I was people just want you to be in this one little thing.
Speaker 2:They don't want you to like branch out blossom, branch out they don't. And it's like I don't understand that because, like I said, if I'm not worried, if I'm eating, we're all eating. If that's the point, I should have never fucking invited you to come out.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying but you don't know these things until you get bit.
Speaker 2:So that was one of those life lessons and stuff like that, but it's, it was still been cool, it was lit. It was still lit because at the end of the day, I still felt good about like being that bro. Yeah, you did your part.
Speaker 1:I did my part, bro. That's yeah, that's for reals, and then my part, but it's also good that you got. Whatever happened happened in the beginning, though.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because the higher you climb up, the worse those falls are.
Speaker 2:Like I know they see me now. Yeah, I know they see me now. One of them was still trying to be cool, but it was just like when they got around the other one, it was like nah, you don't know me.
Speaker 1:I'm like nigga. You don't know me.
Speaker 2:You feel me, me. It's weird. That's why I'd be like bro. I just say, I just say to myself now, man, that's facts, bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, I understand, I feel it, um, but that's that it's your journey. Yeah, it's, it's your journey, just like this podcast is my journey. So it's important to like face a lot of this, the ups and downs alone or with your partner, or you know what I mean are the ones that are around.
Speaker 2:I was alone bro I was alone, sleeping on the. Yeah, that time that's. This is all 1920. Yeah, so this is all like my first daughter's either cooking in the womb or she's just being born, type shit, yeah. And it was like I have to do something, to make something of myself, I have to build something. And I didn't have a place. I was staying with my two friends. That's why I called them because it was like bro, if we're supposed to be a group.
Speaker 1:You were there from the beginning. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I'm going to call y'all. And then I was staying in his house. I was sleeping literally on the floor behind his couch, Because I was like I don't want to sleep on the couch and everybody's walking in and they just see to sleep on the couch. Then I'm that guy.
Speaker 1:I was like let me get behind the couch. Then they don't know.
Speaker 2:Then, nobody knows, I did that for like a while, bro. I did that for a while. I left my dad's because my dad was like I was rebellious at that time too. He just wanted me to clean my room and I was like dude, fuck all that, fuck all that. So I clean my room and I was like dude, fuck all that, fuck all that. Someone clean my room. How about you clean up your attitude? How about?
Speaker 1:you clean up your attitude, dad. That's fucking funny.
Speaker 2:But I mean like now, me and my dad, we're super cool now.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We had that moment where, like, I said whatever I felt, you know what I'm saying, mm-hmm, I said whatever I felt. You know what I'm saying. Now I would advise this though I advise everybody to speak how you feel, but don't be surprised on. You know how somebody else takes it about how you, whatever you're saying, because, at the end of the day, they ain't got to hear that shit. If you don't want to hear that shit, right? You know what I'm saying, right?
Speaker 1:And my dad wasn't trying to hear that shit, you know I'm saying right, and my dad wasn't trying to hear that shit. So you know I'm saying, but it was like you understand that.
Speaker 2:Now though, like he, understands where I'm coming from now and now, as me being a father, I understand how he would feel. I couldn't even imagine my little girl like, yeah, snap at that.
Speaker 1:What the fuck you feel me, it'll crush me, bro, you crazy.
Speaker 2:Especially if you really care, and it's like the whole time you really been trying to figure out shit on your own too, like get your own life together and stuff. It's like, bro, that would've crushed me too. So it's like, all right, but now we're good.
Speaker 1:That's good. Yeah, we're good. If it's just cool with the family, then it's good, because you feel like you have like something to catch you, like if you fall, exactly.
Speaker 2:Like if stuff ever hit the fan, you know at least got that auntie or that cousin or somebody. But I mean, there's some folks and that's what you need to appreciate to appreciate too, because there's some folks that don't even have that. There's some folks that it's like bro, it's literally just me out here and I don't have nothing and.
Speaker 1:I'm trying yeah, and you know, you never know what that person is even going through. Never know, bro. So that's why, like I, I keep to myself and I never. A big part of this podcast, bro, is I try to not teach lessons but, like my experience, I share my experience. And one thing that I've learned being everywhere and being around so many different cultures and being in other countries is that you can never judge a book by its cover. Never, bro, because, bro, you just never know. Even you, bro, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like bro. It's like bro, you pulled up. You asked one question, bro, and I was like yeah, man, it's back there. Man, now we're up here talking about spirituality, yes, life and shit. Yeah, being in real deep. You know what I'm saying? That's what shit like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it meant like that, like it, literally, just like that just like that, bro, and they can, but that's that's what people also really need to understand too. It can really be just that simple. Now to granted there's not a lot of people like me and you that just that was on some like yeah that was on some like one, something you know what I'm saying yeah, because you meet a lot of stupid folks before you. You know what I'm saying, but you kind of give up hope a little bit.
Speaker 2:Then it's like then it shows up and it's like oh okay, all right, I know I'm not tripping they still exist, right, they still exist out here, yeah. There's still some decent people out here.
Speaker 1:I feel like a lot of society and social media combined has kind of like dumbed us down to, not me or you personally but but as a whole, as a whole, and it's hard to fight through that and you end up being, uh, a minority in that sense yeah you know, as am I. But uh, yeah, I'm glad you brought up the spirituality, because I think that's where we're gonna kind of take it.
Speaker 1:Uh, take it there man take it there, and then I'm gonna finish with a couple questions, and then, uh, and then we'll, uh, we'll call it, and then we'll get to work tomorrow yeah, then we get to work tomorrow, then we gotta, yeah, we gotta, yeah, this is this is just the beginning it's just the beginning, dog, I'm excited.
Speaker 1:Um, so what, uh, what do you think sent you on your uh spiritual journey? Or uh, you know what has that been like? Is it been trying to find yourself, figure out what, what makes you happy, what your truth is? Uh, you know things like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like my, so my other older brother name is ralph right nice, and he was on this shit like he. He's. Uh, he lived. He's the one that lived in Denver.
Speaker 1:He lived in Denver and all that shit.
Speaker 2:He was in Denver when they won the Super Bowl, type shit. So whatever the fuck that year was, but that year, Okay, and he was on the crystals, the copper, the oil. You know what I'm saying? The shit that really go with the chakras and the oil. Like, you know what I'm saying, they're really the shit. They're really going with the chakras and shit.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, oh, he's really tapped in. Like he's like and that's one thing about him.
Speaker 2:If he's on some shit, he's gonna be like, he's gonna take it like away, you know, and I thought he was fucking insane, like I was like you have lost your goddamn mind. You have officially lost it like this, is it?
Speaker 2:yeah, you have lost it, brother yeah, you have went on the deep end and, um, it's been nice, because I was just playing the game like I was playing 10th grade on pc like you know what I'm saying I was just trying to, I was trying to code some shit, I wasn't trying to think about fucking your third eye and, god damn, like really going deep. So he popped it off and like I seen him do it and I seen him like, like I literally seen his skin look like a golden bronze, like you're like just being healthy and being like oh, yeah, yeah, and especially being being healthy and being like Especially being out there and having the crystals yeah.
Speaker 1:He was really like.
Speaker 2:Glowing, he was shining, yeah, but, um, my fiance's dad, well, my fiance's on that, yeah, he's on that, nice, but her dad is like on that, not like od like, like od like with the coppers yeah, yeah but on some like understanding, he's the one that's gonna give you a book.
Speaker 1:Yeah and I don't read no fucking books.
Speaker 2:And it was the best shit that he could ever fucking read. I love when he gives me books because I learn so much stuff and now I realize why everybody likes reading now and it's like it has the answers, bro. Yeah, but I was like I ain't finna read that shit, I ain't finna read that shit.
Speaker 1:I ain't finna read.
Speaker 2:Nigga I to pay rent Books, Books.
Speaker 1:Man, they better send me an automobile. What the fuck am I going to do with these books?
Speaker 2:It was like that, it was like her being on that type of energy. Even the simple stuff, like saying don't say good morning, say grand rising the power of the tongue, the words, the manifestation shit, the frequencies. I was already on to it from my brother, but she amplified it when we were both connected. That's when it was like a U2 moment, Then that's when it was like let's really tap into it.
Speaker 2:That's why I am the way I am now. Before I was still cool, but I was like I was still outside. Now I'm more like reserved, smart with my smart, with my decision making. I really value my time. I really don't talk to just everybody. I talk to everybody, but I don't let.
Speaker 1:I don't like to let too much out. I don't let too much out to everybody. I don't let too much out to everybody.
Speaker 2:You can know just enough, just by off the conversation, I know how to deal with you. But for the people who really, really, really know, you'll know, kind of thing.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? That's facts.
Speaker 2:But she really put me on. She solidified it. Ralph put me on, but she solidified it. Her dad was like that's my pops man. Yeah, I love that, bro. I love that he's not old either. Nick's like 46.
Speaker 1:Really Well, like you said, with the skin being all clear and glowing and everything. I personally I do like a water fast two, three times a year. The last one I did was seven or eight days, but that's how I feel when I'm towards the end of that. Or even once you get past the first three days.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what they said. It's kind of smooth after that, but that first three days is brutal.
Speaker 1:They can be. It is brutal because we've literally been putting the same shit in our bodies our entire lives and then you go cold, cut it off, like your body goes into shock for like a little minute. But that's the good thing.
Speaker 2:It's the good thing because it goes in shock and it literally gets rid of all of this, everything out, let's see, they don't know about that.
Speaker 1:They don't know about that, nobody. But that's why I'm trying to put people on game with this.
Speaker 2:Yes, bro, yeah I'll be really listening to uh, um, uh, yaki, yeah, and because you know he'd be talking about like uh, like you eat with the sun, like you, um, and then like you eat early, and then I think like nothing after like four, yeah, and then your body, like after a while, it start goes into it, goes into the state, yeah, fasting.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I'll be trying to get on that. That's a real thing, though it's just something about that honey hot lemon type of chicken, oh man. I know it.
Speaker 1:My thing is like I stopped drinking a couple years ago, so it's almost like I replaced it with sugar, which is bad, because it's super bad for you Right right, sugar is horrible, like, I replaced it with sugar, yeah, which is bad because it's super bad for you, right, right, sugar, it's horrible, it's horrible and uh, but the fasting that's like.
Speaker 1:Like that's just where I messed up, because it's like a vice man. It's like when I used to want to deal with shit, I used to drink to deal with shit, and now I don't have that option. So like I was like, ah, yeah, so candy or whatever ice cream, something quick, something uh, and like my skin, like I'm like breaking out of my skin.
Speaker 1:This is from eating sugar, like if I detox my body out, just like straight up, and I just eat meat, vegetables, fruits that's it like on the lines man pretty much. Yeah, wait, wait lines man you talking about the mushroom?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, that's the way I'm trying to. We're trying to go, we're trying to go like that way that's really good stuff.
Speaker 1:I take the tinctures. They're like drops. They're better than the pills, so get that after you take it. The tinctures, yeah. So I'm on that. Turkey tail mushrooms, cordyceps mushrooms are for your lungs, yeah, and then one for blood flow. I can't remember, but I usually take that.
Speaker 2:That's Ashwagandha right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, um, but yeah, I take that's mostly like, what I take is like mushroom, like natural.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't take a lot of supplements? Uh, no, because? Because supplementation isn't the same as yes, it's not, it ain't it?
Speaker 1:but it's, it's.
Speaker 2:But what I eat is important, so like I cook at home, right, but if you do that, to eat your fruits, like you're getting your hydration from the fruit. And then that's when I was really like getting into it because, uh, I was also uh so this is completely side quest, but it goes into what we're saying. That because, um, I was working with a company named b connors right, I was doing their video content and, like they you know it was a black owned connor company but we was doing doing like a HIV kind of thing at East West Connector at the Walmart up there, and so they was drawing blood and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:So my brother's, like the one that's closer to my age, he was like oh yeah, I know I'm going to be good. I drink water all the time I work out Woo woo. Yeah, this nigga blood was so thick that it was like she's like I can tell you're not drinking water, yeah, which means that like you're not hydrated, yeah, like you're not hydrated at all, yeah, and. But he was like I'm drinking water, but it's like you know, they tell you so that water with the Celtic salt, so it can really get into your um your bloodstream yeah, yeah yeah, and uh, yeah, his his shit was like no electrolytes yeah, nothing but um, what's up for this eight?
Speaker 2:oh, but the fruits we ate, we ate like fruits really, the fruits and his, his, he actually got hydrated. Yeah, I guess when he, you know the water that's in the fruit really goes and it really is better than you just drinking water. Yeah, yeah, when you actually eat the fruits.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can see that um, so, yeah, like nutrition is super important. Um, I feel like mind, body and soul, if you take care of all three of those things, yeah, you're gonna live the life that you're supposed to live, or or your path will be much clearer, or something, and and you'll get to those checkpoints faster and you'll see things through a more clearer lens. Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2:It does get wicked, it gets very wicked, but I feel like that's like that's the game they want you to play, though, mm-hmm, because mind, body, soul, like, yes, that is what you, when it really boils down to it, that's what it is, that's what it is. But distractions, dopamine, like constantly all the time, to constantly take your mind off of that. Yeah, if I can get your mind off of that, yeah, if I can get your mind off of that, then I can control you.
Speaker 2:But once you really start focusing on that and you like you can't mess with nobody who's really at peace, bro, like it's not gonna work it's just gonna be like all right, that's what it is it is what it is. I guess that's how.
Speaker 1:I guess that's how it's going that's just how it's gonna go I want to go to the afterlife.
Speaker 2:Anyway, you know what I'm saying, you know what. I'm saying who doesn't want to go to the spirit world? Yeah, right.
Speaker 1:But it is what it is, bro, damn. Well, I think I'm going to throw out just a couple random questions and then we'll do some shout-outs, and then we'll do, like, some shout outs and then we'll call it Um, what is uh, what is your? Have you set a goal for yourself for this year, it being 2025,? Uh, when it comes to either the videography or the grills or just self-personal development, do you have any goals set up for this year?
Speaker 2:hell. Yeah, I can't, really, I can't disclose it. Yeah, because I feel like once I say it, it's gonna do it.
Speaker 1:I'll tell y'all camera though. Okay, I got some shit.
Speaker 2:Okay, good, I got some shit, like some shit that is like, oh you know, yeah, because they're not doing it in atlanta. They're doing it like in new york and like other places, but they're not doing it in atlanta. They're doing it like in new york in like other places, but they're not doing it down here. So I want to be like the guy that's doing it down here and I also see, like the festivals. I can see me being at the festivals and stuff this year every time and just getting more like brand awareness and stuff like that. Um, but just on a minor scale, like gotta do the vision board. That's a must. I keep hearing about this shit. I might as well just try it like you're already in the mix.
Speaker 1:You know I'm already in me. It's like come on, bro.
Speaker 2:Like you're already there, I literally just need to see the.
Speaker 1:I have to see it like how you said speak it out into existence. The same thing. Yeah, board like vision. Writing it out like that um no, I agree with that.
Speaker 2:The vision vision board, 100 for sure so vision board festivals, um, as far as the videography stuff, I'm also gonna do like I'm gonna take that shit back because I lost my passion for it. Yeah, and um, because, because dealing with other people, man, it burnt me out. Yeah, like it really burnt me out, because, remember, I told you like I was being the right person for the wrong people.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it would just like it sucked the fun that I used to have for video. Like I still love creating shit. Like I love a good fucking vlog.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but people are so fucking stupid and they're just like. I don't even want to deal with that. It's not fun, no more. It's not fun, no more. But I'm finna make it fucking fun. But instead of it making it fun, I was always looking for a muse to let me just shoot their content and make them look cool, because this shit's look fun, because I like seeing people up, yeah. But now I'm like I'm going to just put that energy into me instead of me putting that energy into myself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the recipe.
Speaker 2:And then now we'll see, we'll see how that shit turns out, you'll see.
Speaker 1:I mean, how that shit turns out, you'll see. I mean, you've already bet on yourself to this point, like now, just take that and, like you said, put that energy into into you and your business.
Speaker 2:That's that's what I feel like, because I feel like I can just take it there, because I have the vision to do it, and I'm the one who bring other people's visions to life on camera.
Speaker 1:You're going to figure it out. I'm going to figure it the fuck out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take the risk. There's going to be bumps and stuff. There's going to be hard times, but that's just what comes with the game, bro, or else everybody else would be on. That's literally what everybody says.
Speaker 1:Exactly. If it was easy, everybody would do it, if it was easy, everybody would do it. A hundred percent. You know what I'm saying and I've never been a hater, you've never been a hater, you told me. I know it, I feel it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they exist and they're out there and I'm gonna show you when we get, okay, but the people that's in New York, that's doing what they're doing. Bro, I can do the same shit, like you know what I'm saying I can literally I I'm asking him questions and he's literally telling me the shit that I already know. Yeah, and it's like why am I doing it if he's doing it and he's charging a premium and I know exactly what he's doing?
Speaker 1:You got to be the first to it. That's like a thing with ideas, and it could be the same idea in a different place. But if you're the first to it and you put your creative you know sprinkle on it, then you'll be lit in that too. You'll be in that just doing that, hell yeah that's awesome man, you got some big goals coming up um yeah, uh, let's, uh, let's go ahead and we'll finish it out. Um, do you want to?
Speaker 2:well, first I want to say thank you for taking the time for doing this, even though you know we just met like that right, just met like that well, yesterday, just yesterday, yeah, yesterday, we was like fuck, it's literally two in the morning.
Speaker 1:Right now we're like talking, I wouldn't have it any other way, wouldn't have any other way, bro. Um yeah, so you know, I I've, I told you that this shout out to you, man, shout out to you with the pocket, my phone cutting you off, but shout out to you, bro, because it Shout out to you with the pocket my phone, cut in your offer, shout out to you, bro, because it's like, literally after this, I'm like, yeah, I'm about to do this shit, yeah.
Speaker 1:Bro. I mean, I think a big part of life is who you have around you in your circle. Yeah, keeping it small, keeping it tight, you know loyalties are like a big thing you know, for me.
Speaker 2:Super? Yeah, definitely for me. That's why I'd be like, when it be like when disloyal shit happen, it'd be like we're too real to not. I feel like I'm too real of a person to have some disloyal, fuck shit happen to me. But I guess that's what happens to real people, because there's a lot of people who like that. Yeah, but I didn't like how I kept experiencing it. So it made me feel like it's something with me and why do I keep attracting this type of people? But then it was like I need to switch the type of attraction I have with people. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like I have to switch up something. Because why what? I'm saying, yeah, like I have to. I have to switch up something, because why do I keep being in these same situations, which means I'm doing it. So now it's up.
Speaker 1:You can always look back at yourself, even if you're not even the problem or you could be, like there's always something you can fix or do better, no matter what, and like to take out of those situations. So that's growth to the fullest and you're just growing up the way you should be Hell yeah bro, that's awesome bro. But yeah, so the basis of this thing is kind of around mental health and I feel like the country is like in a very crazy place now Very frantic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everybody's, everybody's, everybody's scared bro, but that's what they. It's like. It's like when you really go deep, man, and you really realize, like like it's just some puppets bro.
Speaker 2:It's really it's the puppet master behind the strings bro. It's just some puppets bro. It's really. It's the puppet master behind the strings, bro. If you let it, if you let yourself get caught up in worldly things, you won't escape the Matrix and I'ma just, i'ma just leave it like that. Damn. That's facts bro. It's facts, bro, if you get caught up in the worldly shit because, at the end of the day, like you know, like you done traveled, you done did this shit, you done seen stuff, been around things, and you be like none of that shit fucking matters bro. Like literally all the stuff that we thought that mattered don't. And the stuff that really does matter is your mind, body and spirit exactly um damn that's right on head.
Speaker 1:You're very wise, my friend, uh before, before I let you go uh, here's your chance to to shout out uh, anybody, uh that you think, uh just just anything, man, your family, your friends, uh, your, uh what you believe in your ideas. Shit, you stand on. Shit. You believe in things out in the world.
Speaker 2:You see that you think shout out to hanging with humans, because right now we're literally hanging with humans. That's what we're doing. Um, I would also say like, not on some like sarcastic stuff. I want to shout out to everybody who really did me wrong, because that shit brought a beast in me and really changed the course of my life in such a positive direction and really changed the course of my life in such a positive direction that probably if I kept fucking around with those fake ass people, I wouldn't even be who I was today. So like I probably wouldn't even be doing this shit, I would probably be like I don't know, fucking supporting their own ideas and their dreams instead of doing my own shit. And then, by the time I get to where I'm at now, it's like damn, now let me start thinking about myself. So you're 45.
Speaker 2:It's still not late, but it's like damn, let's get this shit in early, bro. Let's get our credit shit right now. Let's get our funding. Let's get our do this shit easy. Do this shit now and by the time we do hit like it's gonna be 45 or some shit. We're on a fucking lake, we're chilling and shit. Yep, you know what I'm saying going fishing and shit, fishing and shit. That's what really matters, bro the peace, that the, the freedom, the freedom to do whatever you want, bro that's what it comes down to, because you're still gonna have to work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, and even I used to chase. I used to be like about the money all the time, but now it's like it's really just a connection and networking now to me, yeah I don't care about the money, because I'm gonna make it. It's gonna come.
Speaker 1:It might be tough, it might be slim, it might be tight, but it's gonna come you're doing something that doesn't feel like work a lot of the time, and that's a huge part of just everything. Hell yeah, bro.
Speaker 2:That's why I honestly love working at a shop. From being there, I didn't even realize until I said it, but I was like damn, it's only been a fucking month. It's been a month but you connected and I feel like I'm connected and learned. It's what I really love doing, so it's like I'm blessed to do something that I really have a passion for doing.
Speaker 2:it's like it's like videography all over again, but like hands-on and now my other stuff is still contributing to this business, contributing to, like you know what I'm saying because it just gets even better. It just gets easier, like to the point that I'm gonna be able to like, just print print grills and shit. I don't even have to do all the extra shit. You know what I'm saying. It's even better, it just gets easier, like to the point that I'm gonna be able to like, just print print grills and shit. I don't even have to do all the extra shit. You know I'm saying it's going there. Huh, it's going there. Yeah, it's going there. Like, don't worry about it, bro, I already got your fucking scan got my impressions.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got you. I don't, even I don't even mix up, no more.
Speaker 2:I just I scan your mouth. That's crazy, it's be perfect. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro, anybody you want to shout out or anything, go ahead, now's your chance, and then I'm going to dap you up and we'll say peace out, let's see Before that handles like for Instagram YouTube. Where do people?
Speaker 2:go to find you. Instagram Personal Instagram is Young Lottie. You're going to see Y-U-N-G-L-O-D-D-I-E Business Instagram is Oro Divino and Company. So it's O-R-O-D-I-V-I-N-I-O no, take that I out, o-r-o-d-i-v-i-n-o and co. That's what it is. And then YouTube. Youtube is just Young Lottie. Or if you just type in Young Lottie, you're going to see like, because the celebrities they'll be like, they'll tag and post it on their channel and shit. So I and posting on their channel and shit. I'd be like fuck it, Just fucking tag me.
Speaker 1:Tag me, but you're out there, let people know You're out there on YouTube and everything. Yeah, I'm on YouTube, I'm on.
Speaker 2:YouTube. I'm probably going to start. I don't know, man, I don't know if I'm going to be like a YouTuber, though, but that's what. Ever since I started posting my content on my Instagram stories stories like people want to, I guess, see the lifestyle of it and I was like, fuck man, I kind of just I'd be chilling bro, but I technically do a lot of shit, like we technically having a fucking podcast meeting. I got there, yeah, two in the morning.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got there on tuesday. It's true, it all ties in, you know I'm saying it all ties in, bro.
Speaker 2:It's like, at the end of the day, bro, that's, that's still content, that's still like you're working. I see you.
Speaker 1:And people want to see that. So it's like fuck it, man, I'm going to give them something to see, exactly, if you ever follow me on my shit, I show I'm up at 4 am. I'm at the gym.
Speaker 2:I get off podcast and then I'm taking care of my kids and then I'm just finding guests.
Speaker 1:I'm just out here just like doing what I'm doing, meeting people and trying to put the ranch together. That takes up 100 of my time and it's all out there, but people fuck with it, because who wants to wake up at 4 am?
Speaker 2:who the fuck wants to wake up before nobody does? No, but the fucking. That's what you gotta do. You gotta that's what you gotta do, bro. That's what that discipline comes in, bro, because you wake up at 4 am, bro, you knocking out all kinds of shit, so much shit like so much and that's what I realize now, because at first I'd be like man I used to, you know, wake up at like 10, 10, 30, 11 30 sometimes like 1 30 and be cool, like just start the day or whatever yeah but it's like, bro, I want some.
Speaker 2:I woke up at five because I had some shit to do. That day was so fucking long and I had so much shit to do and I got it all done, but they were just like damn. If I did every day like this, imagine how much shit I would do. Yeah, imagine how much work, your energy, I would put in, even if it was like I read I read the book that my fiancee dad gave me. That shit, I'll be home, bro, like that's.
Speaker 2:That's where the discipline comes in. So I'm like that's how I'm gonna do it, bro, like I'm gonna gotta be disciplined. Yeah, lock, you gotta be, gotta be disciplined, and apparently you gotta stay consistent, because that's what I'll do too. I'll be like doing it for a little bit, and I'll be like fucking doing for a little bit. All right, fuck it. Because it's like I'm not finna. I can't keep doing this shit for free, right? Somebody got to pay something and I'm out here shooting videos these motherfuckers getting hand in hand flashing $2,500, but don't want to pay for a video though. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:They always say in the beginning oh, it's the come up, you got to earn your stripes, you got to take these L's.
Speaker 2:I put a lot of fucking stripes in. I earned my goddamn stripes. Now I'm at the point where enough is enough.
Speaker 1:At that point, that's just a finesse. Because you do have to put your work in I did do a lot, and you've done that already.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did that shit or way earlier yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:yeah, but you ain't getting finessed, no more like now.
Speaker 2:Now it's more so like let's, let's do the business side right. Let's get the business right, give me the press passes for the festival so I can have my media pass.
Speaker 1:There you go, you know. You know how to do it right, though.
Speaker 2:Now I do it right now. Yeah Well, I appreciate you, brother.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro, hey, thank you so much for coming out here and doing this, and we homies now Of course man, Maybe we could do LA. Maybe we could do LA together or something like that.
Speaker 2:No, bro, you thought. I was playing Like I'm not. I really wanted her to go to the concert down here, yeah, but we're going to like. It was like, obviously fuck that, but when I saw that it was having the LA show, bro, that shit's probably going to be deep as fuck, like it's probably going to be insane.
Speaker 1:They did three shows in a row. I think for that, yeah, because it's that fucking insane, because that's tired, I'm trying to catch like the first day.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to catch like the day one, but yeah, bro, um yeah I appreciate you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm gonna take this paper though. Yeah, absolutely, and thank you to everybody for watching. I'm excited about this episode. I'm gonna get it out to you as soon as I can and uh, yeah, thank you and bye, peace out.