No Filter in Paradise
Two friends, one's straight one's Gay, with different backgrounds, interest, upbringing & outlook in life come together to have a Fun & honest conversation and discuss their opinions on different topics... with no filter.
No Filter in Paradise
Xiomara Maduro: Unda e jaarrekening plan a keda? | EP 169
Nos a sinta cu Xiomara Maduro, #3 riba lista di partido di MEP. Topico cu nos a touch ta Aruba du debe, jaar rekening den e ultimo 4 Anja, Aruba su Cultura y mucho mas
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Speaker 1:I have my own money, but not like 50% of what I want.
Speaker 3:Bitch, I don't have 100k.
Speaker 2:I don't have 100k, I don't have it, but I want to have something that people have, right, I don't know who's going to vote and who's not going to vote and who's not. So younger me, I'm going to have something that people have. No, it's good for business If I have and a woman to thrive in the political world. So in this case, the political world of the world of Humber, I have almost two or three trips more to the next level. Alright, hey yo, what's up Hola?
Speaker 3:qué más te dice? Guys, welcome back to AB. Oh my God, sorry, no, this what's up. I like him as this.
Speaker 1:Guys, welcome back to AB. Oh my God Sorry.
Speaker 3:No, this is annoying at this point Me huh, I'll bite of a show Like you know what's up.
Speaker 1:We're here for image, whatever, but oh Guys, welcome to no Filter in Paradise. Abc Island's favorite podcast, a show about anything and everything between two friends One is straight and the other.
Speaker 3:The baddest bitch you'll ever meet in your life. Babies, I'm black and gay and I'm Chargary de Bobadillo.
Speaker 1:That should be your. Oh hell no.
Speaker 3:I will never camp, I will never go in politics. Are you crazy, mm-mm? I like critiquing. I love just sitting here like you don't have to be good and you don't have to be bad. Like, yes, sitting here like you don't do good and you do bad. Like yes, by fix it, by fix it on a bean bag, by fix it, that's good enough. No, I'm not like I'll give everybody. When they do something good, I'll give them that, but for the most part, nah alright Manson.
Speaker 1:We have a guest here today. We're going to finish with thumbnail. We're going to finish. Who is it?
Speaker 2:it's Ms. Thank you, thank you. Thank you very much. You're so nervous. No no no, I'm pretty this month. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know they didn't say nothing, else they're not sure.
Speaker 1:All right. So basically, this explains what we're going to do. We're going to have a conversation, a fun conversation. We have a lot of questions that we want to send to our followers, so 80% of our questions are from our followers, from Afo, from Aruba, and also from our interests when we do this, when we do an. So if you don't like something, don't blame us, blame them. You can blame me, though I'll take the heat for sure. Don't go too political on us, otherwise shock and bullying.
Speaker 3:Are we straight to the point? Your table, your rule let's go.
Speaker 1:Let's go. Let's start with the icebreaker. I hope you're chill. Let's start with the pro frame. Now I'm going to open the door Pro frame Okay. Good, I'm going to click on it and put your Instagram story. All right. So I will click this and put it in my Instagram story, alright. So For me, how many years have you been For me to travel?
Speaker 2:For me to travel. Wow, I want to know. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't have time.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. I went to the Netherlands For 20 years and I want to know I am in politics, but I am in politics, but I am not in politics. There is a difference, a big difference, of course I work here in the Reckinans, but I am not from Turkey. I am from Turkey, but I am not from Turkey. I have an opinion yes, and you will see but I will vote.
Speaker 1:Do you remember, Liz? For whom person and party?
Speaker 2:It's another electoral movement of the people. Yes, and if I make a mistake? If I make a mistake, I don't know what to think I'm going to vote.
Speaker 1:I don't remember I don't remember, I don't remember, I don't remember, I don't remember. He's like randomly In the middle of a conversation, he's like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think that I don't know who will vote and who will vote and who will vote. So, younger me, I think I will vote for young people.
Speaker 1:I will. I will look for snack favorites, like a local snack popcorn, popcorn, what kind?
Speaker 2:of popcorn like salty and caramel salty half and half sweet and salty is that a Gloria?
Speaker 1:is that a movie theater? I know that.
Speaker 2:Gloria, just like One afternoon I just bought A popcorn and bought it.
Speaker 3:I'm not mad at that, though. Like they have, like I like it. But I don't like Anything with juice.
Speaker 2:No, Timbiaha Is a little bit but. I like salty. It's really my snack. I work too, but three hours in I'm full. I'm going to eat popcorn.
Speaker 1:How do you say I'm going to eat popcorn?
Speaker 2:Yes, you will Read it. Who knows, I'm going to eat it, are you?
Speaker 1:sure there's a microwave in your house. With popcorn, a stack of price you can buy it.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, Because I'm young, I'm a little girl. So yeah, if I don't like my mom. I don't like popcorn, so I don't like popcorn.
Speaker 1:Okay okay, I'm an artist in the city. I prefer Gigan and Ateneo.
Speaker 3:Wow, that is so messy.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:That is such a messy question, I like two.
Speaker 3:No, you wanted one.
Speaker 1:No, you say one no.
Speaker 2:I didn't say one either, you know what?
Speaker 1:Cancel that show, Woki. Cancel that show. We don't have rules we don't have rules.
Speaker 2:I didn't know how to say what I want. No, woki, tour 2,. I admire Kiko for his singing and rapping. I love him to the maximum. I promise you that from the beginning, you will appreciate him maximum. Um, I admire the world for that. Jeon has a big dream of a big dream, also to be exposed internationally. So I'm going to go and I don't worry about anything and I'm going to do my best together with him, and I'm going to do my best. So I appreciate what I did and I'm not't go alone like Jayon, but he went with Aruba Corso and Papiamento also pushed him to go to Machicama. It was tremendous. So, no, I can't kiss.
Speaker 1:You lost a little. Let me make it easier. Give me the percentage 80%, 20%, 30% and in the meantime, give me 55%.
Speaker 2:She just wanted to give everybody something. No, but it's not fair, it's not fair and you two are from Arubiano and you two are admiring me.
Speaker 3:You two are Caribbean girls. You're from the Caribbean, but Rihanna is also from Nicki Minaj. Nicki Minaj from the Caribbean yeah, she's from Trinidad.
Speaker 1:Don't play with it. I have no idea. You just have to like it's just choices are choices. Preference, I'm going to ask dark, but I'm going to ask with memory or how long do you want to die?
Speaker 2:with memory or how long do you want to die? Wow, you want me how long? Yes, to know how long you have to enjoy. That's a good answer. I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 1:I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish.
Speaker 3:I wish now I gotta work let's accomplish these things real quick like shit. Oh, that's tough.
Speaker 1:I will say what do you prefer to do in the future or change something in the past? Here's the last question, by the way.
Speaker 2:I prefer my future to the past. So nothing happens anymore, and every thing that happened in the past in the past is to shape up. So just be happy to be good and less good. Per, there you go, there you go, per.
Speaker 1:That was our segment with ProFrame. Thank you, I want to dive into the questions. God, I don't have time. I'm going to ask you a question and no, for us. Whatever, all right. So question number one what is the biggest problem in Aruba, to call it? What is the biggest problem and what is the plan to solve the problem here?
Speaker 2:The biggest problem I don't know, based on my concept, is knowledge. If you don't know something, you don't take responsibility to being part of the solution, so you prefer to criticize. But if you have knowledge of something, you want to help us. You have the danger of helping something good for us. You have to be a little bit more. You have to be a little bit more self-centered. The laws of life.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's facts, no follow up.
Speaker 3:Not yet, not yet, not yet. We're going to get into it, we're going to get into it.
Speaker 1:Alright, miranda, I want you to give me a map and call your number to change. Is there something that's easy, or is it like I'm going to be nervous?
Speaker 2:No, always tell me Now I'm in a game or I'm in another game. I think I have chefs. No speak in English factor. In this case, the important factor is the vote. In this case, here, dangi has more votes than me, so he's more collegiate than the number two, so I'm not going to complain. And at the end of the day, hey, what's the difference between two and three?
Speaker 1:and four, because we have people who like it when I play a game and they're angry.
Speaker 2:And then, yes, no chance in a game like no stress in your party.
Speaker 2:No stress in your party no stress in your party, no stress in your party, no stress in your party, no stress in your party, no stress in your party, no stress in your party, no stress in your party, no stress in your party, no stress in your party, no stress. If you don't do that, you guarantee you'll have a problem or something will happen. I have another word you have to trust the process, as I always say. You have to trust the leader of the party, you have to trust what he's doing with his party. So if you know, you understand. You have to remember number two. You have to remember your number also has its responsibility. So if you're in the top five, top ten, top fifteen in a party, you have a responsibility. So I think it's important to note that.
Speaker 3:I think that the trajectory in the economy and all of that is also playing a role, because, I mean, everybody says that you have a portfolio of we have finances, Finances yeah, it really shocks.
Speaker 2:Well, it's possible that you have a lot of votes. Some people say, yeah, I have a lot of votes, but at the moment you don't vote. They don't vote for finance, for example. But there are more factors that are important. So the other side, in this case Evelyn, knows exactly what she has in mind. So, for example, if I don't go on a trip, she calls me and I go. Exactly if I organize things on the map or if I do an input, for example, exactly what you said organize things on the map or if you do an input, exactly what you say, it's on me. So in politics, I also put myself in it. So if I fight for trust, if I fight for the name of a fifth soldier, I don't know how to travel.
Speaker 2:I don't know how to travel. I'm an apostle. So if I don't have a name for a job, okay I have it. I have it in front of me.
Speaker 3:I have it in my heart, but I feel like Sisterhood With Evelyn is what really drives you. That's also why you fall in place with her. You always come to her defense like hard, hard.
Speaker 2:What happens is not only Evelyn, but also our part of what I call female leadership in Aruba. And here's a fact the world is made up of women, at least recognizable, it's true.
Speaker 3:At least recognizable, it's true.
Speaker 2:So it's good to know that when you have another woman, you're not sure that you're going to be part of a team. So if you don't have a backup, it's not great. But I don't want to say something that you're going to wait for, for example, in the world of women, I'm going to say, I'm going to say I'm full out. For example, the world of women is very important so if there is an important renewal. But hey, I have an abstract of me. I want to travel.
Speaker 2:I want to have a person who understands the world and tells me hey, no worry, I will cover it for you. You know it's not easy to have an abstract. Yeah, at the end of the day, we also have our hair. But, but, but but but, but, but, but, but, but, but but but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but but.
Speaker 3:It's true, oh sorry, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. I'm also here, no.
Speaker 1:No, I know. I just want to ask you if you call him, do you send him a wallet back? If you call him, do you find him a minister?
Speaker 2:Well, it's like this. I always tell him a joke Since the time I started, since I started with the first office I was formed. I remember de prome gabinete o arroformato me decorra e momento a gente discutia se que é carterinam o que é carterinam que tu decenas a un dato me di hey, pero what about financian? Nguenta pleita and I di ah, no, sei da pavo que men tu re na, na na casami con e this is for you, girl.
Speaker 3:good luck, good luck. It makes sense, I think that with non-fiscal reforms, with the government's actions.
Speaker 2:there will be more stakeholders in parliament. There will be more people in parliament because we are under pressure. On the other hand, we have projects and we have a flower to take out, so we have a character to go with. In this case, I think God gave me a little character to go with it.
Speaker 3:You low-key have to be a bitch.
Speaker 1:And if you go to a other country? What would you say If you go to a chance like what's up?
Speaker 2:Miguel, exactly, Well, I always thought I like culture and it's not too much that it's a thing of yanga dance. I'm do that too, but culture shapes people and it shapes a community. It's a good character, it's what makes you special as a country. So for me it's something with more honor. I do that with hope and pleasure. It's something that I like. On the other hand, since I was little, I've always wanted to go to school. I didn't even have to criticize, I just explained things. It's very simple. But I also have to say and with respect, I like to know what level of people I listen to. And I don't have to be a doctor, a teacher or anything like that. I just have to go to a level where we understand what they say. No, my job is to listen to them, know, not know, not educate. Educate them understand what they say. So if a person reports, I like to be a teacher, but I don't like it.
Speaker 3:Go for it. So my dad is a fag.
Speaker 2:Now I'm also a finance and culture minister, but now I'm not a fag. Now my company is doing well, but I'm sorry, my company is not doing well. Now my mom is a fag. I want to say that. So politics also has its costs, because you don't want it to have until the day we turn our hands.
Speaker 3:So hey, they will run with it.
Speaker 1:You would be the most famous one, though Definitely you would be the most famous one.
Speaker 3:No, let me add this as well. I, like Cuba, mentioned the education and culture and exactly what I've always. I've always been a fan of. Add this as well, because I like the mention of education and culture and exactly something that I've always. I wish that I had a person who was more into the culture of aruba. The one who is older will appreciate more things than before. I would have been like girl, get this boring shit out of my face. But the one who is like, oh my god, I love my aruba with all these things, but he will walk back, okay, the con has never been instilled in my life. Get this boring shit out of my face.
Speaker 3:In history classes you hear Christopher Columbus. Who the fuck is that? Why do I care? We're in the same country, we're the same family and all the deep shit that the tourists are saying. I'm going to the hotel and I remember, but all my colleagues are just gay tourists. It's bullshit. Oh no, we got our status apart because of this. And Batiko, he fell with the flag and he got back up and he kept on.
Speaker 3:Hey, bullshit. Oh my God, the hope is just out of it when it comes to our culture.
Speaker 2:So that's why I was a little bit of a displaced person For Kiko. It was a little bit of a consequence, now that we have a Kingdom, of the consequences, right Now that we have a kingdom of the Netherlands, and even though we are in a kingdom, we have a lot of problems. But we also have our negatives. And what are our negatives? For example, I'll put it in words in a way, before we go way back, for example, to school, for half a year we didn't have a playground, we didn't have a classroom, we didn't have a playground, we didn't have a playground.
Speaker 2:Actually, the cultural part of the Netherlands that we have here, that we direct, is the Dutch culture here In the Caribbean.
Speaker 2:So actually we don't know how we can do it, for example, papillomentos or papillomentos with a bag. So this bag has a part that goes, for example, to the corso, but it also has a part that goes to Africa and it goes from the Caribbean. So we don't have a language like Papua, another language that is not Dutch, but because the merchants and the time that they have to go to the Netherlands and they speak Portuguese Portuguese so we can communicate with each other, and now we don't know what to do and now we are under pressure, but because of the pressure. One day we will have a sense of liberty, and now we are going to look for it. Which unites us? And what unites us is the papilloment, although sometimes we don't speak English, another language, but now it's part of our lives, no matter from where you came, because belonging has so much importance with culture, the Ministry of Culture, the Department of Culture to include a sense of belonging here in Aruba, it doesn't matter from where you came.
Speaker 3:Where does that stand? Why is the laws not still changed?
Speaker 2:fear fear of what fear, fear, fear, fear fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear. I studied in the Netherlands, so I started learning Dutch, but I didn't know.
Speaker 2:I'll give you an example. I have a friend in Aruba. He came from a major school. He studied Spanish. He went to school. He studied Spanish at home. He studied Dutch at school. He went to school. He was super good. We studied and we were successful. We didn't have a teacher in Papiamento. Papiamento didn't have a teacher. We had to fight with Dutch at the beginning. We had to go through that. Before that, a lot of people were there Until we studied. We don't know it's true instruction. I don't understand it, so I'm going to lower it a little, so I can't continue, but hey, it's still a discussion.
Speaker 3:Your colleague last vote for who? Who do you know Michelle Stein Vote? Okay, she was campaigning with this. Yes, it's so strange, or not strange. It's a little bit like a step back, where she's been campaigning for so long and your party Is in place.
Speaker 2:Why is it still not implemented? I'm not introducing. Minister Andy Introduced me to the school, here in the committee that started the training, and now I'm here, and I'm here, and I'm here, and I'm here. So what I was told? Fear. There are people who are afraid of the government and they are afraid of the people who are in the streets. So what do we need? Fear to be able to live in the streets? If we are at a point, if we are at a universal point a country that wants to colonize its people and that has a lot of discussion, a lot of financial discussion, it's true.
Speaker 2:It's true, it's the same classes, they have the same universities, they have a better figure than us, or maybe they have doubts about us, do you understand? Maybe the important thing is that we have the same. So in our culture there is a role. So we are trying to do it too, not only in Aruba, but in the kingdom, so, via the overland, for the culture to form a base too, in a way that can be learned. Exactly, we boil down to what we know to put us in the right place when we know enough. Because, as a country, even if you come from a small place, the big country will tell you you come from that city, you come from the after hook.
Speaker 2:There are also people who are brilliant, but what happens is somehow the people are not as good. But what happens is that somehow in Aruba, we are more inclined to not want to do more, to not want to do more things. So this part of the organization that we are organizing, we always push people to do more national, and now we have an opportunity to showcase it. I don't know if you know it. We celebrate it in different ways QR codes for people to have information, but we also have mapping Technology for celebration. You can see it here. You are exactly three people together. Now you are three people together, we have a force. That's fine. Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Thank you, I'm not mad Go crazy.
Speaker 2:Pregunta tur. Elección. No, no, no, parte de votamento Pa' quico tur e tempo ainda no logra Pa' quico pa' sobre etiun parti logístico. Pune Quique sei Kermen, sei Kermen, ta' pa' bo set up an election, but you have to do it here in Aruba. You have to do it here in Aruba. You have to do it here in Aruba. It's full of logistics. You have to walk around to vote. You have to do it with logistics. You have to do it with logistics. You have to do it with logistics. You have to do it with logistics. You have to do it with logistics. Now with the cab, now with the boat, now with the car. But now I'm going to open this to the people who live there. I'm going to have to look with the Arabian, the people in Bahrain, the people in Australia, where to go, and the master has the right to vote, the master has the opportunity, the master has a way to vote. So there's a way to go. So in that way, the logistics are fine.
Speaker 1:But if you stay in the Netherlands, you can walk here and there. No, it's good for discrimination.
Speaker 2:No, it's good for that. So the logistical part is, if you have to say, okay, but we're going to use a Dutch embassy, maybe an option, but of course in a Dutch embassy we agree to assume responsibility Because it's a responsibility. People come and vote, not a custom. A lot of people come and vote, but if one that votes is in the court of treaties, that is valid, that is in the court of transport, that is in the court of contact, that is in the court of cooperation. Imagine, for example.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right. So this is the main reason. Another reason why we have this problem is that we are in a situation where we have more people living in the country than in the country. So what does this mean? For example, we have an idea, correct, correct. Hey, don't be nervous about what you're saying. So don't be afraid, maybe, to vote out the desire of those who are in the moment here.
Speaker 1:But I think it's important to have such a rule. For example, if you have a student, you can study for four years before that. You don't have to cap it out. You can study for six years and go outside.
Speaker 2:You can put certain things, but if you choose, you won't be able to discriminate. So from the point where you put 13, you are bound. You are bound to the motherland, so you are the one who is typified. But there is something that you can do. But you have to put it on the card because it is a 10 line and you can discriminate against others. Imagine you put a number four years. You have people who are five years old, but they say four, not five. So I read that in the newspaper, I discuss it, I call the people a word, I call them 24 hours. I think there is a argument, but the main argument is the most important part, pero el argumento principal es un más importante es parte logística. Entonces pensé sobre queremos, sino dijo pero cuando los awardos así acaban?
Speaker 1:¿Quieres seguir? Voy a empezar en el segundo segmento. All right, vamos a ir al siguiente segmento. Es un par de preguntas, pero saca tu pregunta de Ajata. La primera pregunta es ¿Cómo ayudaría a su gobierno a resolver la frontera de trabajo que? And the first question is how would your government help solve the labor shortage?
Speaker 2:that exists in all economic sectors. So, in reality, the situation in Venezuela, for example, you have people who are here but don't have a legal status, they are not working, they don't have a job. Obviously, they don't have a dream, they don't have a job, so they are not employed, they are not working. So one option is to say, okay, they are not here, they are not established, so they are legalized. Clearly, there it to legalize it.
Speaker 2:Clearly, there is a process with it and I know that, for example, the city of Trecedilante is not only a tourist sector, but there are other places of service. For example, we have to do cleaning, for example, there are projects that are not appropriate because there are no labor shortages. So they is one option, but the other option is also to form a job, or someone who is already working to form a job so that they can bring that type of work to the workplace. What can I say? For example, if you have a job, you have a job, you have to do engineering, you have to do this, you have to do this, you have to do this, you have to do this, you have to do this, you have to do this, you have to do this, you have to do this, you have to do this, you have to do this. Hotel Correct.
Speaker 3:And a healthy work-life balance. Correct.
Speaker 1:Like a five-day or four-day Four. Where was this when I was working?
Speaker 2:God damn. No, but I explained it in a sense.
Speaker 1:It's being done in Switzerland, of course.
Speaker 2:It's like a cattle. I'm putting pressure on the cattle I'm putting pressure on the cattle. I'm putting pressure on the cattle, so I have to release the cattle. To exploit the cattle, one of the options is to grow, and now I have two people working one job, two hours less, and now I can combine the two. It also helps to work life balance. So I know that there's something that's bringing to the table as part of the type of solution that we have to have so that when you say in short well, if I'm with her, I don't have dynamics on the part of.
Speaker 1:I think that's something more that I have to talk about, because I have a lot of. I don't have dynamics, I don't think. I'm going to go for sure it's a challenge I don't want to lose.
Speaker 2:It's a process For Aruba, too. Its development is a process. What happens is that Aruba is developing it, but it's also putting a plan for Aruba, putting things in place in a way that makes it possible to do certain things with a safe buy. So it's not just putting it in a way that makes it possible to come with things, but also thinking out of the box Too fucking bad. Bare with us.
Speaker 1:Like too bad, all right. Second question what plan would your government put in place to increase access to affordable elderly care, considering the graying of our population?
Speaker 2:and they can't afford it. But they also have to live and they have to take care of themselves. They don't just have to take care of themselves, but they also have to take care of themselves and they have to take care of themselves and they have to take care of themselves. For example, my mother is 85 years old and she always has the epidemic. And she's young, but she never has a baby, so she has to die. Later, look, está young para nunca hiber maristela para su amor y el dinero Later, look.
Speaker 2:So, ahora que la cultura está pasando, me está just complacer con su deseo. Se ahora me tiene que cuidar la casa, y entonces vamos a tener que tener en cuenta que está exigiendo el cambio de casa, como ustedes saben, pero está allá ahora con la familia. La cultura está trabajando y no se puede cuidar. Entonces ¿cómo se va a? It's hard to change the house, but if you're there with your family, if you're not working, they won't take care of you. So how are you going to resolve it? And now the government is taking a step in with help, because there are already private parties. There are different companies that are also providing help. So it's one party care, but also it's a house for older people because we are together with FCCA. Fcca has already started to work on a house here in Caba and now we have a fund available not only for houses for older people but in general. So FCCA has a plan, but we don't want to a plan, but we don't put the money we have here because for a long time we didn't have a cheap fund and we didn't have a cheap fund to bring it with us. And now that the government, thanks to the surplus culture, has criticized it, we have a plan for the FCCA to have a government loan to bring and start with 100 houses, if I'm not mistaken. What kind of house is this? The power of purchase of the people of Granada, also our city. Every time they think about it in a way that is responsible. So we also with our city, now that we are in the city. We will be back in January and we will be back, but also we will repair our city Little by little. We will have to do it again, because the politicians are, at the end of the day, but responsible for the people's finances.
Speaker 2:I know that the party has gone to the kitchen. We're going to double the pension, we're going to repair all the floors. We're going to sell 100 flowers. There are a lot of people breaking things and we're going to sell 160 million flowers a year. So how am I going to imagine what's going to happen? The whole thing is going's a plus plus. I have to bring a new one. I have to pay 100 million for it, all the problems that will come. Jesus will come. So it's a promise that you won't make with him exactly exactly.
Speaker 3:Thank you, our friends from AVP we can talk about this in a while we're going to go up we're going to dive in.
Speaker 2:We won't talk about this in a while.
Speaker 1:Obviously, I want to point out something different In the name of the word. What is the difference Between a big game and a small game? What is the difference?
Speaker 2:I have a backup, I have infrastructure, I have knowledge. Backup, I have infrastructure, I have knowledge. Also, I have experience, I have experience, I have experience, I have experience, I have experience, I have experience, I have experience, I have experience, I have experience, I have experience, I have experience, I have experience, I have experience, I have experience, I have experience, I have experience, I have experience. I have a master of one, I have a master of two, so I have a master of one. I have to deal with another. In this case, if the party has not had enough seats, we will bring in another party to form a coalition. History shows us that every time a government has a coalition, the government is not the same For different reasons. We have a journey that has a suspicious person from Por, and now we have decided to dissolve. Now we have a case here, a case that is important, but it is not important in politics. But it is important, it is important to have trust. So what does it do? It cuts the domain. It has a term I don't remember the term, but it has a word, but I don't remember the post-term the second post-term, and then it changes to another. Chemistry 3 is the last. Now, with the AVP, coisa caindo em outro. Química 13 de lante. Ora que o AVP está em dois termos, o MEP está em dois termos significa que o Aruba está em 16 anos de estabilidade política. O que significa Significa que se você rende tanto de setembro, também tem eleição. Nada está bem prometido. A UOC está bem prometida. Se você rende na cabeça tem Páscoa, nada está bien para mí, algo está bien para mí. Tú reanudas en la cabeza. En Pascua Hay un nuevo nos tiene que ir a la política. A mí me parece que es el 24 de diciembre. Entonces, con otras palabras, ¿qué pasa? Está creando cerca del pueblo y nos está haciendo un desastre? Inversionistas no están aguantando Si, porque estamos en una guerra. Como estamos en una guerra, no es bueno estar pensando.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you can hear me. I'm not sure if you can hear me. I don't know if you can hear me. I don't know if you can hear me. I don't know if you can hear me. I don't know if you can hear me. I don't know if you can hear me. I don't know if you can hear me. I don't know if you can hear me. I don't know if you can hear me. So I think.
Speaker 3:It's going to always be the same, but in that it was probably steady in regards to what's happening now. But for now there's an increase in the cost of living and other things, because in Oaxaca there's an overpopulation with the hotels.
Speaker 2:So it's a decision of 16 years. And another thing In Oaxaca we have overpopulation With our hotels, but it was that, that man, but the cost of living Is not related To Angelo that he said Wow, you have.
Speaker 2:Angelo, you have a decision Wow With tourism, wow, everything the cost of life has good and bad, so let's not repeat that anymore. Happens to be that in a country that also has its autonomy or its way of being since 1986, it turns more difficult every time. It happens to us too. But it's good to have our reaction to what we're doing and what we're doing. We're not doing the same thing. We're not saying, hey, I'm going to double my pension and then I'm going to bring 100 million and I'm going to double it there. It's true.
Speaker 3:But it also gives A word that goes back To the last election. At some point you have to know that the big party Of traditional has to know that you're a big party, a traditional party. You have to know that the people are saying something. They're not telling us what they're vibing with at the point.
Speaker 2:The people are saying that it's us. They're not saying, hey, there's a song that the new ones want, right, yeah, but they're telling us to be aware of what you wish for. Yeah, I'm right. Okay, with respect, I don't feel it. I don't feel it. I don't feel it. I don't feel it. But, roman, it's easy, but I don't know. But if you have the courage to make a decision, man, it's easy, but it's not easy, but I don't know. But if you have the courage to make a decision, it's not a bad result, but you know what's going to happen If you have a beautiful daughter, or a son or a daughter, and you have a daughter, and you have a daughter, and you have a daughter and you have a daughter, and you have a daughter and you have a daughter, and you have a daughter and you have a daughter. I sent him to Facebook, this politician Facebook, papi, I know, I know, the time is Parliamentary. She is the one who goes to the parliament Outside the parliament. So now I'm thinking I'm going to understand, papi, it's easy, it's easy, you can do it. So now, if I have a situation In a country when I'm doing A good job, why change?
Speaker 2:I'm going to change a winning team. I'm going to change a winning team. I'm going to change a winning team. I'm going to change a winning team. Beware of what you wish for. Go for experience. Beware of what you wish for. Beware of what you wish for. Beware of what you wish for. Beware of what you wish for. Beware of what you wish for.
Speaker 3:Beware of what you wish for, but that's what I'm saying. If people don't trust me anymore, I'll go back to the AFP Because I don't trust them. That's kind of what I'm saying. If I don't trust the map and I don't want to map anymore, Basically, what you're saying is Okay, go back to the map. Hopefully.
Speaker 1:You know what you're going to get no-transcript it's like all the it's like.
Speaker 3:Sorry, that was very well played. She played chess. She was like just make sure we get it Okay.
Speaker 1:But my opinion is that, moving forward, most of the government is a coalition, so I'm going to sit down. Who do you think will win?
Speaker 2:Well, the crowd you have to choose.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, let me decide. Okay, first let me decide, we you have to choose.
Speaker 1:No, let me say it First. Say it, then explain it.
Speaker 2:No, I don't know, I don't know If I say it I'm angry, but above all, people are decided and they give the result. So I don't understand. I don't know if I'm already working. There's one thing I don't know and I always want to repeat it I don't know if I'm going to be with AVP. That ain't going to happen For Kiko. This is a completely different mentality.
Speaker 1:You don't know how much it costs.
Speaker 2:It's a thing and it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen, anybody.
Speaker 3:Anybody but AFPR, basically.
Speaker 2:Yes, kind of it's like that and Kiko Bolobiza.
Speaker 3:I don't know if he's going to be in the full game, but Kiko Bolobiza is a deal-breaker for a coalition. He's not willing to do anything, but he's going to do something that doesn't compromise him but you know that you don't compromise.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think it's better to put it out there, and then you can start.
Speaker 1:I think it's better to call them.
Speaker 2:Yes, no, no, no. Put it out there for a while and then you can start. So it's the only thing that you can do with Sweden and Trane is, for example, to improve your financial part. So now, I don't want to, for example. Okay.
Speaker 1:I'm not mad at that. I want to jump into the ATA segment.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Anyways, first question from ATA segment. Okay, we have a few touch topics about finance and numbers and stuff. Anyways, first question from ATA Overtourism is a worldwide topic that Aruba is not immune to. From the perspective of your political party, what is Aruba's strategy for mitigating overtourism and promoting regenerative?
Speaker 2:Regenerative.
Speaker 1:I'm really stumbling on the word Regenerative tourism in 2025, according to Aruba Tourism Authority, is it it's multiple choice, by the way A Increasing guest arrival by 20%. B Attracting high-value guests who align with responsible tourism principles. C Focusing solely on luxury tourism of day, encouraging massism to boost economic growth.
Speaker 2:That is the right answer. Go ahead, shark, you got it Okay.
Speaker 3:I was not ready for this. Okay, as general knowledge, tourism is vital to Aruba's economy, driving development, job creation and local business growth. As the island's main export, it significantly contributes to Aruba's GDP. What percentage of Aruba's nominal GDP is derived from tourism? Is it A, 50%, b, 60%, c, 70% or D 80%?
Speaker 1:It's D Wait, let me see you were close, though, but no, it's actually 70%, 70% 70%.
Speaker 3:You were close. You were close Okay.
Speaker 1:All right. Last question Atta is currently shifting its focus to types of guests it attracts. What is the key benefit of this shift for the local community? Is it A decreased jobs opportunities in tourism. B improved quality of life through sustainable practices. C higher property taxes for residents. D community input is not considered in tourism planning.
Speaker 2:Can you repeat that for me?
Speaker 1:The question yes, ata is currently shifting its focus on the types of guests it wants to attract. What is the key benefit of this shift for the local community? A decreased jobs opportunities in tourism. B improved quality of life through sustainable practices. C higher property taxes for residents. C community input is not considered in tourism planning.
Speaker 2:Eta 3. B Eta 3.
Speaker 1:Improved quality of life for sustainable practice. Good job, two out of three. That was Ata's segment. That was Ata.
Speaker 3:Maslach pa Ata.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, all right, you got something you want to ask.
Speaker 3:Nah, let's go. I'm ready for the next question. Damn, I lost it, sam, don't f***ing play, don't play, okay. So Wait, you got it. Yeah, I got it. So.
Speaker 1:I'm looking at Shark, kind of like the fall in the small Medium business. Let's go, I know, can I ask you something? I'm ready to follow up, I'm ready. What policies are you are being implemented to support small and medium-sized enterprises, so SMEs?
Speaker 2:Okay, so ballasting.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. They're like oh wow, you're here too. They're like oh Bro, is that like 50% of the cost of a channel? Anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 2:This is the point where there is a value of being a business. If you don't meet the requirements, you're in the fiscal part. If you don't meet them, you're in the issue part. You're in the part that we want to create in 2019, a small business management. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so. I don't know, but I feel that Nanosaco and NanNan Por Bai have different workshops where you can help with either taxes, but also with marketing, so you're not just selling things, you're also bringing their products out there. Depending on which product you're selling, there is also an exemption, a real-estate balance, but that is what we have already discussed, which is the business that we have already discussed. There is also something called credits, because there is also a line of credits and the government and a partner with Credits to provide a certain loan. We have six, which is a pandemic. Minister Weaver has six after the pandemic, and now we have two more.
Speaker 3:Credits is not just a new card, it's also a part of coaching, a business plan to help you with everything I love to do this.
Speaker 2:I also do this in the economy. I also do this what we call local shopping. We have a jingle and maybe you're not aware, but a jingle that plays all the time in different places that people don't sing to me but they sing to us. And when it's catchy it puts this kind of program in people's minds. Can't do that to keep a nose. And when it comes to us and it puts it kind of program and people like local shopping of our age. Because what happens is people now buy a word and say, hey, let's buy. For example, if you bring a jelly, you can put it in your mouth, but you can't eat it. You have to eat it. I, as a government, do things to facilitate but I don't do business. I have to be in the minds of people to do things.
Speaker 3:I think very much grateful for Turcos that you have to do. I want to say I think very much grateful for Turks. That is out there 100%. I want to say not to pursue issues of small businesses. I want to say, where the issues are not beyond rents, that's one of them, because they say bitch, I don't have 100, I don't have 100 minutes to pay, I don't have 100.
Speaker 1:I don't have 100.
Speaker 3:I don't have 100. I don't have 100.
Speaker 1:I don't have 100.
Speaker 3:I don't have 100, I don't have 100, I don't have 100, I don't have 100, which you don't have Government, or we have a bigger Implement Of the orange economy, for example. It's harder, it's not very much Sustainable on our own, but Waka Woki, it's not like Our platform.
Speaker 3:Look for the biggest decision Makes Of our life. Woki Campaign, all this good stuff, but you see the influence, the input Of this industry, yet we don't have An Incentive. And all this good stuff, but you see the influence and input that this industry has, yet there is no incentive to say, hey, you know all the small businesses that are registered in this country. You need a blasting cut for this amount of time of hey, you need to whatever you ship in to sell to your product to create whatever you sell.
Speaker 1:So go ahead, store to your product to create whatever you need so go ahead to add on this I literally don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I have to pay more than 20% of what I know. But I always say to myself for each item I have to pay 45, 40, 50, 50, to pay rent.
Speaker 2:So it's super expensive to buy equipment or something. I agree with you One thing everything I buy, I put it on track. I put it on track. I put it in two ways. So if there's something that I'm going to sell, I put it on track and after that I put it on pay. You can go to Aftrac or you can pay and drink, but exactly, you know you can't sell it. I'm going to cry. You're going to cry, right? No, exactly, you can't take it away as a waste of your business. Exactly, which makes your business. One time I went to the creative sector the creative sector.
Speaker 2:I'm a liar the creative sector is one of the six promising sectors that we identified in 2019. So we have been working on it.
Speaker 2:We have been doing a serious work to diversify the economy, so that's where we are. So now we are working on it and we are trying to get all the sectors here, which I'm sure will start to move in the agriculture part. But it's a creative sector. It is not designed to encourage tax but it is not used in the sector. So just to give you an idea, for example, now we are in a pandemic, part of which is tax relief with our grant, where at some point, for example, a company relief that we provide.
Speaker 2:One point we have to take, for example, a company that is doing marketing. So you can do that, or you can do that type of thing here of service delivery, you know. Or you can bring a website. You know what happens now. You can do that here by deducting. I have 30 to 50 thousand, something like that. It's a way of helping them and it's something that really touches the creative sector. Going back to normal, there are certain costs that go away, certain costs that fall. Now we're going to bring up incentives here, but for those I would say, hey, but how are you going to come to me? Wow, 2019, we are going to 2020, 2021, 2022, we are going to last years 2023, we are going to start putting things in shape.
Speaker 2:So now that we are getting to a consistency of surplus, we are not going can make shifts, and now here we can go back to the thing that is an incentive to do something for the industry here, creative. So part of this here is also part of what, for example, our idea is called Aruba Creativo. Por ejemplo, esta idea que se llama Aruba Creativo, entonces, desde Aruba Creativo hay otros tipos de workshops, otros tipos de cosas aquí, pero también hay visibilidad para ustedes, que es parte del marketing para ellos, para saber quién está, dónde está? Entonces también es una parte muy importante. Entonces se comprende más cosas y llega también a parte de esta especie de belastro, pero por lo menos para estabilizar el lugar aquí to comprehend more things and this comes also in part after the belasting, but at least we have to stabilize it here and we have to buy that type of things. So if you don't have that thing, you have to take it out and it won't work.
Speaker 3:So we have to buy like fast.
Speaker 3:Okay, sorry she caught me in the eye, but what I'm trying to say is, after you invest in the product, now you have to sell the product to a people who are broken. I don't know how to sell it if you don't have the affordability. Like I've seen it all here. Like if you're legit, you're going to be a woman and you think that if you're going around the world, you're going to think hey, and you think that everyone around the world Is thinking, Wow, how do you feel when you live on an island?
Speaker 3:You're imagining All of these beautiful things Until you put your hand up and then You're like this is not what the island life Is supposed to be like At all.
Speaker 2:It's not healthy, it's not.
Speaker 3:Like nothing Is supposed to. How you reminisce On what an island life is Is not a reality.
Speaker 2:Island. Life Is expensive. It is, but not like this. No, it's expensive Because there's a factor that's not With us we don't have A budget. It costs For us To do what we do, to help us and be able to Buy people. So I thought, for example, I'll put a group that's another one. That's another one. Give me a chance. Give me a chance. Give me a chance. It's true, but four years ago, it's not like it's expensive. It's not like it's expensive, no, but four years ago.
Speaker 2:It was a price that didn't have A lot of money. No, no, four years ago we didn't have A lot of money.
Speaker 3:Understandable, but I think I'm saying that if you have Money, you can Support Locally Wow, I have, but you don't have Other local Producers In reality, in reality. If you have, wow I have, but you know there are other Local producers In reality. And in reality you have people who really want support and really want to buy, but they don't know how to buy. Yes, they don't know how to buy. I don't like.
Speaker 2:Of course no, it's Difficult. So you see, it's not difficult, and they know how to do. It's not difficult and he knows how to do it, he knows how to import. And so now in our paper there's another election in America and it's a consequence for us, so we don't vote.
Speaker 3:But we still get the after effect of whatever happens.
Speaker 2:So we're going to control it, so we're not going to say Trump. By the way. What policy is it? Because it's going?
Speaker 3:to have an effect on us. So, Eri, how do we open borders to get fruit and vegetables and all these other things in Venezuela? Well, Dorco.
Speaker 2:Since it's right there, it's less cheaper. Are you from Venezuela? Yes, sir, I also answered. I answered Dorco. Doesn't matter, dorcos, it doesn't matter until inflation. I will explain. If there is a chaos, we don't know what fruit is coming. What is the danger, what is the respect, what is the connection? We don't have one, and that's also the reason why we don't have borders. We don't have it because we don't like it. We don't have it because we don't like it. We don't have it because we don't like it. We don't have it because we don't have a counterpart. So, now that we have a certain, he said no. He said no. He said no. He said no. He said no.
Speaker 2:He said no, he said no, he said no, he said no, he said no he said no, he said no, he said no, he said no, he said no, he said no, he said no, he said.
Speaker 3:no, he so much government department, but they don't work together. What the hell is going on? It's your turn to do this I imagined.
Speaker 2:In Venezuela, for example, we have a deal With Punto Fijo, but we have a deal With the country In Caracas. Caracas says Punto Fijo está visa, porque lo que cuenta pasa que no va ahí Que me encontré otra palabra que no tiene motivo para que no abra.
Speaker 3:Ahora va a Colombia.
Speaker 2:Colombia. Sí, en el momento que la frontera se hace, los comerciantes buscan otro camino. No buscan Colombia, no buscan Costa Rica, santo Domingo. No están encontrando. Border is there and the merchants are looking for another way. They're not looking for Colombia, they're not looking for Costa Rica, santo Domingo, they're not looking for fruit and vegetables and they're not looking for products that are not from Europe oh well, yeah, you know something, something is something. I guess it's true.
Speaker 1:Well, I have a question. I have a question that I have to answer and I have to ask. Thank you for the question.
Speaker 3:She's like I was waiting for this shit. I was waiting for this shit.
Speaker 2:No, no, it's a good question For Kiko. It's a good question For Kiko. I already know that there is a delay. It's clear that it's 2019, but there is another one that is not clear For Kiko. After the pandemic, we made a launchpad to make reforms in the financial part, financial administration. So I already know that the country of Aruba, since its beginning I have now here is brought with a system of which an external account is not valid and is based on the number of CLOP, which is presented here, which in reality happens. All the revenue that came is the same thing, and the last year I was with an external accountant, it was in 1998, and what was the conclusion? I couldn't control it, and what I couldn't control was the basis of which it was not controllable.
Speaker 2:The second reform indicates that the system will change and by 2026, we will have a year of a temporary external account. We will have a special certificate, but at the moment it is not clear. We will make a comparison with the Netherlands, a Turkish-Hulanda comparison. We have our system here In the Netherlands in the year 70, which is what we are doing now. It lasts 20 years, 20 years to reach a proper year. In the 6th year we are pushing, which is why it's 20, we are doing it in 6 years, in the year 2019, de seis años. No estaba en puja, por lo cual no hace 20, no está haciendo de seis años. Quiero decir el año de 2019, de forma básica, me da tarde para estar en el semestre de ahora estar de otra manera y el otro no está bien, pero el trabajo aquí está tarde. Entonces ahora no está bien, pero ahora el Parlamento queda en escuro, no tiene información. So we can't say that the Parliament is still in the dark, that it doesn't have information. It doesn't.
Speaker 2:The Parliament has more financial information than ever before and, for example, every quarter, there is a report that tells us exactly what is happening in government save or waste and what happens in government. Several times In 2016, we had our financial supervision board, which is CAFT, which brought us a report, our budget for the country, which also has a report on the advice, and also a report on the safety of the budget, which also has a high figure. But the international government is evaluating. The IMF is also evaluating. The IMF is evaluating the company on the right, the IMF and the last one is also moving. Everything is happening. Everything is happening here and now.
Speaker 2:We have an opinion and all the reports are public. They are available to the parliament. In other words, report is public. It is not available to the parliament. In other words, I think it's not the only financial piece that hasn't happened with our country. It's a slide, it's a part of the budget, but it's an improvement that's taking place. I think it's behind. I'm going to thank you and ask, because in the parliament there are politicians who have been for 30 years. Never I'm going to ask you a thing. I feel like Now it's a thing.
Speaker 3:I feel like it's harder for people to decide between look, it's always between playing. Those can't call the pot of black?
Speaker 1:No, not like that no. Not like that no not like that.
Speaker 3:No, not like that, it's always the same At some point.
Speaker 2:Here they go again. So there are people who are inspired by you. There are people who are inspired by you. There are people who are running for you. That's right, that's it, but that's it, and don't forget after you go to parliament, and the party that participates in the parliamentary election. There are people who are part of your community and they are not doctors, they are not wellspoken person let me put like my spirit, by the way but I think there are a lot of other people who are not inspired by me and that's a sacred right.
Speaker 3:But I think that's one of the problems that has really fallen in place. How do we know who our candidates are? No-transcript. I get that.
Speaker 2:I get he represents internationally, so don't you forget that.
Speaker 3:You are now the voice of Aruba. I'm not worried what kind of person I'm going to put here. I'm going to put a policeman.
Speaker 1:I'm going to put a brother.
Speaker 3:A brother.
Speaker 2:But I thought Something and maybe an idea for your program. What skills Do you have to become a politician? You don't say, hey, politics, no, I don't have any physical skills. Hey, happens to be that politics is also a law. Law is in Turks. Politics is also, if you like it or not. You can put it together with it.
Speaker 3:That's right. But now, if you put it together, it has hope in it. Damn right. You tell me then.
Speaker 2:Communicate.
Speaker 1:Sales, sell.
Speaker 3:Idea Sorry, I don't know about communication. Do you feel like you're doing a good job in communication? I can't communicate more, okay, good, oh, it's next. I just want to make sure.
Speaker 2:No, I can't communicate more. I'm sure you can, but hey, it's so hard to put a code in 60 seconds of then 30 seconds for a real woman.
Speaker 3:If you're dumb and dumb, no, I mean, guess what? I have a lot of money for you.
Speaker 2:But you're dumb and dumb. Dumb and dumb, but good, anyway, you're dumb and dumb. Sorry, no, no, no, sorry. I'm saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying Please, if you don't like people don't go into politics, You'll be frustrated, and you'll be frustrated if you don't want to.
Speaker 2:So if you want and if you don't want to, you'll have to be patient.
Speaker 1:I'll ask you the last three questions. Let's try to keep it as short as possible. We're way over here now, but obviously in the last year we didn't have license plates. We didn't want to change them. It's a question that came in. I like the color, by the way. It's nice.
Speaker 2:It's beautiful. The color is like this.
Speaker 1:So if we don't have a problem with the license plates that we didn't solve in the last three, Well, it's not that, it's not a problem that has been resolved.
Speaker 2:We don't have a short government spending. You see, it's like hey, hey, hey, short, short, short spending with all this. Well, hey, exactly where it is, but the license plate is long. It's a little longer than a year. It's long, I don't know how long Three years, three years, if not longer. It's longer than a year, it's longer than a year, three years.
Speaker 2:Three years, if not longer. It's a promise. It's long. So what we're going to do is we're going to take a post with our card so that the license plate is still there. There's another option at the table to take the full license plate here, but this 30 euros is spent. But this 30 euros is spent, so this is going to be charged, so the weight is being paid. So I keep it here for a raise of 100 euros.
Speaker 2:No sorry not 100 euros. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's going to be raised. So what happens is that now it's going to-month. It's a sub, so what happens is that it's a 26-month. Do you want to have a gas station with 26-month?
Speaker 3:No, we don't want to, we don't want to have it.
Speaker 2:So it's an option. No we don't want it as an option. There is a license plate that I will use forever After I change it a certain year, but now I will pay the price of gasoline, diesel, whatever, and then I charge it back.
Speaker 1:So every two years or every four years. You will change the license plate After every year. Now it's more durable, so it will last one or two years. Damn, if it's just two.
Speaker 2:No, I think it's two billion a thousand and a half is the amount of money.
Speaker 1:No, it's the same. If it's a pension of a person, in this case it's more or less a thousand florins, but in the case of 1,500 people to a person who is retired and can't survive, we have a lot of people who are helping us by giving us more purchasing power.
Speaker 2:I think that's a good example, even though we don't pay them the money but, for example, through reparation services. They don't have the minimum wage, but they have reparation services. So each time we call them, you have a reparation service. So every business has to pay a little, and so if you have a minimum wage, you have to pay a little. Or if you have a free of charge, you have to take advantage of the party. But if you have a minimum wage, we can help with the repair work. But there is also another thing that we have in our daily lives. We have a lot of work at school, at work, now that we can introduce an energy work so that we can help with utilities, that we can help with a work that we can help with spending, so now we can help do a task. So actually, through a party, they do a task, they put a little place and then they help people to come around and pass so that they can give, to eat around and to do business, to see if there's a gap. So it's one thing, and I think it's also important. I think it's also important to say so.
Speaker 2:I know that it's a lot of work and it's a lot of work. It's a lot of people Turks who pass us in life, who don't get into a situation like this, you know, because there's a minimum wage, but in life we're always in. You know, I put a minimum loan on the scene, but in life we all have one of two chances, always getting it Exactly in another way. It's a final thing Working. There's nothing I don't know. I think the work you do is important. I don't think you have to have a minimum loan and then, hey, I'm going to try to take courses or to do something for my knowledge, and with courses I also look for a higher school, but skills, so I have a night school I also have. You want to have a job? You need to place, pick blocks and you know how many people are looking for jobs to come here, and with those skills you can have more and more jobs. But you don't have to dominate.
Speaker 1:Sorry for interrupting, but I was wondering if you had people who were looking for jobs with blocks and they were looking for jobs that were cheaper and that's yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean sorry but what I feel is that the problem is that people don't respect people's work. So if a person comes with a job that's not for them, they're not going to.
Speaker 2:So eventually.
Speaker 3:It will demotivate you. Let me just Look for another job. Let me look for something that is actually fruitful, so it's not going to happen. And we have a lot of people that are Undocumented, that are Benefiting from Tournos, groceries. We we don't become bad, we are medicine. I mentioned already who are undocumented, who are benefiting from groceries or they don't get bad medicine.
Speaker 2:They're using all of this. No, there's no AZV. No, there's no.
Speaker 3:AZV, but you can't pay. There's AZV but you can't pay they're still buying the medication and using it for other people who have AZV and they're like no, it's so.
Speaker 2:Please, by all means, bounce back. No worry, Be the best that is.
Speaker 3:If that was the case, I'm not going to help you. Sure, sure, hey, the bad news. But we definitely have a trajectory based on what the government can do. You can definitely do something to help you, so I get what you're saying, but I also feel like it also takes money. A government that is creative, I think that's one direction we need creative as fuck right now.
Speaker 2:No olvida nunca algo, ¿qué dice? Para mi duna abo y tengo duna Of, a mi tengo duna. So ahora enan corra boom Ahora con un cinco raya. Más tampoco te gusta, pero está para duna abo. So ¿qué es lo que dice Boom este?
Speaker 3:tiene un balanza de con.
Speaker 1:It's a balancing act, that's why we need to push it All right. So the final question.
Speaker 2:All right. So the inflation, that's something that's going to go down greatly. The plan to not bring more debt, so that's also not bringing only debt, not even correct, not refinancing debt alone. So if you bring debt as a government, you have a deficit. So we don't have a deficit, we have a surplus. So we have to be careful. We don't have time, we have a surplus. We have to take care of the fiscal space. So we have to make sure that the debt is low and now we have to have space to change it so that we can lower the burden. If the burden is high, the belasting is high, the work must be high. So now I lower it and I go to another.
Speaker 3:How long has it been?
Speaker 2:Our visa is over, but for how long? I have a plan In five years.
Speaker 1:We're not going to stop.
Speaker 2:We must be at 20-40. We're at 50%, we're at 71%.
Speaker 1:I might be dead by then.
Speaker 3:Not 2040.
Speaker 1:I guess, we would have to benefit from that, never mind.
Speaker 2:Fuck.
Speaker 1:We're fucked.
Speaker 2:Benson.
Speaker 1:Guys, the next three years? I don't think that will work.
Speaker 2:That doesn't work like that 70 million that we have now that are not going full-time and all of which are a bit extra. Half of them are going because there are 42 million that are going extra, that are going to be 120 million, that are going to be down, and another 42 million that are going extra, that are going to be 20 million, that are going to be 60 million to be inverted. So, no, it's going, I think. But it's hard for people to take into consideration to invert. So, no, it's going. Well, I think. I really ask people to take into consideration their political path, whether they have a map or not. Another thing is please don't go to Mexico, which has a fiscal space on the coast of our country.
Speaker 2:Hope and sacrifice to get there, and if it don't go down and you have to we go back to a place we don't want to be let me just say something nice make sure you vote consciously, because if you don't vote, you're not going to be here.
Speaker 3:You're not going to be here, you're not going to be here, you're Now. We're going to close it.
Speaker 1:Shomara, thank you for being with us On the show. I'm going to walk in the camera and say what's your message To Shomara? What's your message?
Speaker 2:What's your message? Well, my job is to create stability, and that stability is what you do to progress up there according to each person's goal, their dream, and that's what we're doing. I'm an Arubian, I love Aruba, hopi, but I work for you guys who are here and who have love for Aruba. So, three months, arriba Movistar. Movimiento Electoral de Pueblo Xiomara Maduro. Three months.
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