No Filter in Paradise
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No Filter in Paradise
Ursell Arends: Various hende a ganja riba No Filter! | EP 170
Den e episode di awe nos ta sinta cu Ursell Arends, Lider di partido Raiz!
Nos a discuss differente topics mane: transparency, Dump, San Nicolaas, Corruption, Coalitions farmers market, Orange Economy & Much more
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In the Acme's office. There's the Ministry of Transport. Stop Corruption, nature and the issue of the adult mayor. Who is it? It's not you. It's not you In 2021, we're going to talk about the adult mayor. There are people talking about the adult mayor. There are people talking about the topic of Acme. I'm going to give you that.
Speaker 2:Wait. On a very serious note, we want you to acknowledge that the that Aruba is a fucking thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we don't have maps to join them.
Speaker 2:Everything has a price. That's the problem we're thinking about.
Speaker 1:If you don't have a political opinion, you can't even win a show. Oh, that's it. Who can win? A traditional party can't even put a sign behind a campaign and once you're in, return that favor. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Hey yo, what's up. I like him a stage.
Speaker 3:Guys, welcome back to another political episode here in no Filter in Paradise. Hey yo, what's up LA que mis tex? Guys, welcome back to another political episode here in no Filter in Paradise, a show about anything and everything between two friends. One is super, mega, amazing, straight, and the other Don't push it okay, but I am black and gay baby, it's fair.
Speaker 3:Guys, today we have a Although I did say it's a political episode, but it's not a political show. Keep that in mind, okay, danke, it's a political episode, but it's not a political show. Keep that in mind, okay, thank you Next. So today we have another guest Awe Zoe. Zoe, awe is back. Awe has none other than Ursel Ahrens Welcome back.
Speaker 1:Thank you very much. Thank you for having me on the show. I'm sure you want to come back again. We'll discuss various topics. Something interesting, ready to go at it again.
Speaker 3:Which, by the way, I'm going to tackle this one day here, but first we're going to start with a mini icebreaker. You know, have some fun. You're going to feel a little tensed up here, I know it's a campaign, I know you're going to say launch break here, but I know You're going to eat snacks, don't?
Speaker 2:worry, hope you ate.
Speaker 3:All right, so let's start. We have a segment Pro frame.
Speaker 1:Pro frame.
Speaker 3:Bro frame, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:It doesn't matter if it's pro frame.
Speaker 3:All right. So to answer the question, who will vote for me and my wife in Aruba? Who will vote?
Speaker 1:Who will vote, but for my wife. I want my wife to vote for Nel Udiber. Seriously, oh wow.
Speaker 3:Nice, nice, nice, nice. Okay, Nel, apart from the political role, what about the maps and the joint politics?
Speaker 1:In 2016,. I considered joining politics. I had a tour of political parties and early on I knew that what I wanted to do and I'm going to have a political party and early on I'm going to take what I want to take and what I want to join. I'm not going to be able to take a traditional party. That's a no.
Speaker 3:Kiko Pabo okay. I know there's multiple questions but I'm going to forget if I don't follow up right away. But Kiko Pabo is a traditional politician. Do you know what that means? What does Pabo mean? Like do?
Speaker 1:you want me to say what Pavo means to you. I mean, it has various aspects, but one that I'm sure is different is that in a traditional party there are people who put a plaque behind so they don't go to the campaign, and once you're in office, then you have to give them back In 2017, 2021, and now in 2024,. We don't have to. Neither me nor Raiz, we don't have to give anything.
Speaker 3:But I think you mentioned about the flag, the steak. We don't owe anything that's funded by someone else, bigger corporations, zahmar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah Okay good.
Speaker 3:Do you put a person in the night or at night Like night?
Speaker 1:person, depende de como digas Si Me gusta, maínta Lanta Trempar Jog Get the energy ready E anoche Tengo hora, me trajo hora Na largo Também Para me Catch up and get Things done.
Speaker 2:GSD Eres, so normally Voto morning person. Si, so you're more active, you do more things On your terms. Me encanta Comparado com I'll buy it with the night that I'm going to be working. I'll buy the gaming with the night.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'll buy it with the person that you're buying. I'll buy the gaming chair too, to be honest. Anyway, to be honest, the chair is no. The gaming chair is the only one that I'm going to win, so I'm going to sponsor a monster. It's not going to be anything. You can keep it, it's okay. Croquette With mustard or without mustard. With mustard.
Speaker 1:I like it with sauce and pineapple, what, what, what. A sandwich With croquette and peanut sauce is the best.
Speaker 3:I mean, you'll never forget it.
Speaker 2:I mean, you'll never forget it.
Speaker 1:But where do you eat croquette? Sometimes I eat it at a bowling.
Speaker 3:And sometimes I eat it at a sandwich. I mean, you'll never forget it, you eat croquette with peanut sauce. This dip, I I never thought about it. I never thought about it.
Speaker 2:Pan con, croquette with sauce and pinda. What the fuck? I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Honestly, I like pan con croquette and I love sauce and pinda. I never thought about combining them together. I also like pasta. I also post online. I tag you on many posts. I hate it. The Earth um um actualmente a walkie. What the favorite artist slash song of the internet? A walkie. Eladio carion, who, oh hey?
Speaker 2:what? Who's that eladio?
Speaker 1:I don't know eladio eladio, eladio.
Speaker 3:Um, I could tell by the name. Yeah, yeah, what kind of music? Do you know what kind of music it's?
Speaker 1:a trap. It's a famous song by Bad Bunny. The song is called Camber Walker. It's a hit. The original song is Gladiator. It's a nice song.
Speaker 3:I didn't expect that.
Speaker 2:I didn't expect that. Can you dance? I'll answer Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, Okay I grew up in that era, but I think you're a little waistline.
Speaker 2:Yes, sideliner, sideliner, hey, let me be, more waistline.
Speaker 1:I grew up in the era of Rob Adob and those stuff Stop.
Speaker 3:Let me boost it man.
Speaker 2:Yes, I want it. What Nasty vegan man Okay.
Speaker 3:How do you rate people as a gamer?
Speaker 1:So we said I want to go to Twitch Tim.
Speaker 3:Bia and. Fortnite, which by the way, very smart way, but Tim Bia has a mini campaign there. I want to with this question with a young audience how do you rate yourself as a gamer?
Speaker 1:Five or six. I'm a little over the top. Now I have Twitch to talk to people. You know you get distracted.
Speaker 3:But I think I'm average. Okay. Do you want to have a future in Aruba and invest in a party of gamers?
Speaker 1:in Aruba. Okay, definitely, let's go.
Speaker 3:Thank you, thank you, thank you. All right, good Shout out to ProFrames. This is our segment, icebreaker. We're going to jump in to the questions you have To start with. 80% of the questions are from Durian. The questions are from Nantamananos. Nantanos, kind of like, relayed the message. So if there's something you don't like, you can send him One excuse.
Speaker 2:Stop it, I'm going to be a coward. Behind you, I'm going to be a coward. I'm going to be a coward. I'm going to be a coward.
Speaker 3:First of all, let's start with the last episode. How did you guys get together? Was it good Was?
Speaker 2:it a relationship.
Speaker 3:Did you figure it out?
Speaker 1:I already told them that I was in the position and nothing changed and it's just the way how we move forward. I hope that we can understand what I said. It's for the well-being of Aruba, to create the same opportunity for everyone. It's the point of departure. I have to understand and I have to work hard and I hope that we can express that we don't understand the reason why. I have to understand you and I have to explain to you and I will express to you why I am here, so that you can understand what I am saying. So for me it's a past station and then we move forward and we move to the next one yes, all right, he's going to.
Speaker 2:Okay. What was this last time? I was thinking I was thinking I was thinking I was thinking I was thinking I was thinking I, ursel, missed a giveaway 50 taxi verheunings. What was that about? Why?
Speaker 1:what I haven't given you one, yet what? What did you say? I said, minister, there are 465 taxi verheunings. I haven't said anything. Yet there are still 465 taxi verheunings.
Speaker 1:Contrary to any governor in the past, since 1986, I have a transparent and public process so that people who have 50% extra with Mr Bini and in December 2023 to February 2024, we will open a digital portal to all people who have asked for a 50% tax to reapply to show their interest On the month of September, in October, we will have the portal available so that those who are interested can apply. And now, if you want, in a week, we will also launch a list of people who will come to the remark for the 50 taxis in Virginia. But the 50 taxis in Virginia are here based on demand. We also have around 4,000. Oh, that's amazing.
Speaker 1:So you can't transfer more people. You have to eliminate the weight and start giving more votes, and the 50% is a full, transparent process with the award coming and the award that comes in the end goes to another organ, and it's a pity what's happening? The award that comes in the middle of the election, but it's a process that starts in December 2023. So there's nothing bad, nothing to gain. The vote is taking place.
Speaker 3:And you're talking about transparency online yes, not online.
Speaker 1:Exactly it's working via BIT, the internal bureau of Diensten, which is a department that doesn't even have a restaurant in the ministry.
Speaker 3:What ministry is it in?
Speaker 1:It's in the ministry of the president Evelyn.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay, okay. What is transparency? Okay okay, okay. Transparency you cleared it up. I'm curious about the transparency. Carlos for sure, Do you?
Speaker 2:have to really stand on it.
Speaker 3:Yes, what kind of opinion do you have about other parties joining you in a way that's fully transparent? For example, showing the finances a buy, a say. I feel like you're transparent about it a buy and a sell.
Speaker 1:I think that's enough transparent information but I think that other parties don't. I want to see innovation in politics and the origin of this manifestation. What we want is a government that the people want and we are giving to the people what we can't do here with the people. I hope that the other political party will change the way it operates and make it more transparent with the communities. I hope so. What we want is an OGP, an Open Government Partnership. I want to give a big step, to start doing this and then, in the next cabinet, we will formalize and finalize the work and if something happens that you don't support as a law?
Speaker 2:Yes, could they have to? Everybody just supposed to comply with this In the Netherlands we have a WAP.
Speaker 3:It's an Open.
Speaker 1:Government and in Aruba supposed to comply with this If you don't have legal knowledge, if you don't have a legal background, it's even more difficult to find a legal way to get a document.
Speaker 3:You don't even have to start. You have a website and the general public says make it super simple. Okay, make it over the taxi. Oh shit, pedro. But what?
Speaker 1:is it? She asked for a document In 2018,. I had a political interview with your show. It was until Gaya. Oh, of course. Who is Gaya Bisa?
Speaker 2:In 2018,.
Speaker 1:I used the Lobverzook tool to ask for information on hotel development. I asked for documents on hotel development in Isla de Oro. I used the Lobverzook tool. I had a legal background to assist me in this project. I asked for this and I was forced to have the project. We have a legal background to assist us in this. Raíza asked us to do this. We are here with a lot of strength and we have a new project. We have a new instrument. We have a new instrument. We have a new instrument. We have a new instrument. We have a new instrument. We have a new instrument. We have a new instrument. We have a new instrument. We have a new instrument. We have a new instrument. We have a. It's true, I'll give you that. It's true. Oh, flat out.
Speaker 3:I gotta give you that you can't go to a Belém thing. Just lay it down, go crazy For sure, for sure, let me ask you this real quick.
Speaker 2:You're on the subject and you're like the nation island type of guy Botajan and Crocodile in the black hole via climate change. That was very random. That question is entirely random, I know, but it has to do with global warming and climate change and all this. That's what they were saying in Venezuela. What the fuck.
Speaker 1:If it came from Venezuela, then it might as well be something of climate extremes causing us to reallocate more to other types of inhabitants, be something of you know climate extremes.
Speaker 3:You know that's the last thing we eat right now on this island. Crocodiles, like you, hit me. Beach man Like fuck that.
Speaker 2:It's serious stuff though. Climate change is real serious? I don't think people take that like not to make that in consideration On a global level.
Speaker 1:People are not even talking about climate change anymore. We are talking about now climate extremes. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. Extreme heat Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh beach Coral bleaching, coral bleaching. So we are all drinking here and, as a country, if we are small, our greenhouse gas emissions are minimal. We have to adapt to what other countries in the world are doing and in Aruba, when it comes to climate change, we have three themes. We have events, mitigation and adaptation. In Aruba, all our resources are here in events. So, when a hurricane passes, we have events in three areas Response, recovery and reconstruction. All our resources are here in events and response.
Speaker 2:We only have one plan for recovery and one plan for reconstruction Mitigation.
Speaker 1:We are changing it. We are use fossil fuel to produce electricity, to start using the abundance of soil and wind, with the steam, to produce the same electricity. But now it's about adaptation. That is where we are and in 2005 I changed the time. I gave the cabinet to the government to make an agreement with the Stamson Center, the institute, with the Thames Centre the institute that guides and advises the American government, which is considered the best in the world, and the Climate Adaptation Services, which is considered by the Dutch government the best in the world, is working with Aruba, which is a local platform, like the National Climate Resilience Council, which is working with the Aruba. Adaptrokinana is a local platform with an institution called National Climate Resilience Council that is working on the Aruba Adaptation Plan so that in 2025, we can start to deploy and implement the management of Aruba to deal with climate change in the whole world.
Speaker 1:You can see Aruba, orokinana, because we have two million institutes that are guiding us and for those who so, we have two million institutes guiding us. And what is important here, our study that we are doing is called CORVI Climate and Ocean Risk Vulnerability Index. It produces more than 100 indicators and 3,000 data points that we are going to adapt. So the study here. Normally the government does this type of study. Now, if the government benefits, it's going to be in Latin, somebody can follow up. Damn. So it's never a buy-in and a latch. It guarantees that it's a good.
Speaker 2:Somebody can follow up with that Damn. Oh my God, I can't Well.
Speaker 3:I have here many times. I don't know if I'm going to say it, but Kiko Pava has here in Aruba. I'm going to mention a lot of problems that I have here. First 100 days I don't want to go to the store for a month to buy a house in the city to sell it to a foreigner.
Speaker 1:So if you put a big price on it, you buy it to use it as a commercial. So in the jack-up in retail, in real estate prices, even if you put a young professional with a good income it's a big price to put on your own home.
Speaker 1:And if you prevent students from going back to the house. A big amount of money to get to your own home and that prevents students from studying, hungry to go back to work. I don't understand, because cost of living has different ways that we can take. One is to eliminate the absence of gasoline. Looking at that, it's low and it will have a drastic impact on the cost of living Because people who drive a car use gasoline, people who deliver products, you use gasoline and if you don't, you have to pay back the product. So if we can eliminate the access, it will directly affect the cost of living of all people in Aruba. But last month I was at the St Nicholas Business Association forum. All people were talking about how we are developing, how we are working with you. But we have five priority issues to guarantee a dignified and sustainable development. We are talking about the issue of the younger, the worker and the adult, the culture and nature.
Speaker 1:Our father was a minor trader and adult mayor commercial and culture and nature. We needed all the mistakes that the world committed in Aruba to pursue economic development. We needed to avoid the mistakes that the world converted in San Nicolás, even though it was San Nicolás. San Nicolás is rich in nature and culture At all. The nature of San Nicolas, the beautiful golf course in San Nicolas, is number one in the world, so we don't know how important it is. It's protected, right, it's protected. There's the Coral Restoration Project that's taking place in San Nicolas, which is in a very good condition, and the third one is the Reef Island that's in San Nicolas. San Nicolás is an importance, an icon for what it means to nature, important not only for Europe but for the world. So we have to avoid developing what we want to become Palm Beach, eagle Beach.
Speaker 3:Avoid without foreign, avoid what we want to become San Nicolás, san Nicolás, san Nicolás, never a word like this. I want you forever, I know, but I feel like if you're here, they're actually serious. They're like I'm here to tell you about Palm Beach overdeveloped. They're quiet, I want to develop it, but they've got this problem overdeveloped. So they're starting to get ahead like, okay, guys, we're going to San. So again I heard it was quite the mess. Yeah, it wasn't the best, but hey.
Speaker 2:What culture.
Speaker 3:did you hear last night different plans compared to unrealistic't the best, but hey, who's tour was it last night? That was different and flat compared to the one in Unrealistic Most of it but.
Speaker 2:What's the tour?
Speaker 1:The first one was Raista Cumpli. In the office, we were able to allocate 4.3 million florins to the San Nicolas, to the infrastructure and how. We were in the bus station of Arbus, also a farmer's market. And how Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Speaker 3:Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Agriculture. But if Rogers Beach gets super developed at some point with the condo, slowly but surely it's going to creep up. So at some point it's going to be a dock. But if we develop so many cars or whatever else could be in there, and so if you develop so many, cars or whatever else could be in there and you're in trouble.
Speaker 2:But if you're in a dock there's a lot of refurbishment.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of development, but if you look at it, the area we're talking about is MPA Marine Protected Areas, so the only area that we protect is Aruba. We have 0.2% of our territorial protection and that's the only area San Nicolas don't need that, we don't want it.
Speaker 3:I don't think so either.
Speaker 1:So that's why I was saying we need to compete in this area, but we need to avoid it.
Speaker 3:So you can't go back and forth.
Speaker 1:So Sunrise Farmers Market is giving the opportunity to the farmers to have a central place and create a place to sell the product. Everybody, everyone in the primary sector. We are asking for it. We chose San Nicolás to develop it. In the last three years we have been in nature, we have increased the primary sector to produce 400% more than what we have produced before we became ministers. So here is an economic sector that we are developing and we want to become a sector that can produce for us as a local economic growth with our development and our goal is to bring a sector that can produce for us as a local, but also for tourists, that can reach security and food. So that's the first step.
Speaker 1:Farmer's market during the day is used as a farmer's market during the evening. It empowers the creative industry because it has a facility that we can use to sell our products. Outside of that, we are renewing the San Nicolas Central, the bus station. We are going to renew it completely because for us the flow of income is what is impacting San Nicolas. The other area has a tourist flow, if we can guarantee the flow to arrive so that we don't have to substantiate the flow to come to make it substantial the need to negotiate, to have clients, we can enjoy the area.
Speaker 1:Then with Arubus we can bring it back to the table. Arubus, master of San Nicolas, but with San Nicolas, master of Arubus. That's the starting point and I want to bring it here. We can also achieve with to increase the flow of people with San Nicolas, to substantiate the amount of business with Mr Bin and also to serve not only the development of the economy but also to not require so much development enough to take over and use it as a business. So for Arubus we have an active cart. We have a lot of people who use Arubus to go to school. They also have access not only to school but also to transportation. It also becomes accessible to an extracurricular program of creativity, sports and also cultural. So we are focused on empowering people not only to use public transport but also to have access to a program that if a mother doesn't work, she can't go.
Speaker 1:So I think that for San Nicolás it's three and five points less, more work and more adult For work, for work, it's a 3.5-point program for the younger, the older and the older. For the older, it's a program for the tranquility, peace and mental tranquility. It's a program for the younger, a program to help them so they can continue to develop their months, and for the older, for the necessary care. From the San Nicolás road until the end of the San Nicolás, it's a satellite pass which provides space for the older adult to come and socialize with the older adult.
Speaker 1:And we have free food, hot food to serve the needy. And here we have another pass in the center of São Nicolás. I'm right, represent, no politician is talking about an adult mayor, but no politician is talking about this reality. They are disconnected from San Nicolás. San Nicolás has 28% of people who are alive. The adult mayor is alive in San Nicolás, 30% of them are not alive in poverty. But they don't want to be interested in what they are doing, what they are doing better. No, they don't want to know how to attend to the quality of life, and that's what we are doing for San Nicol.
Speaker 2:I mean, we hear it, but we don't know if we believe it.
Speaker 1:I mean, we hear it, but we don't know if we believe it. I mean, we hear it, but we don't know if we believe it. I mean, we hear it, but we don't know if we believe it.
Speaker 2:I mean we hear it, but we don't know if we believe it. I mean we hear it, but we don't know if we believe it. Honestamente, the political culture says at some point Great plans man Wow.
Speaker 1:Wow, we don't know, we don't know we don't know You're going to take it. The understating of the place is going to take place. The passage is going to open on the road to the crossroad. The other passage is going to open on the moon. The farmer's market is going to be built. The understating is going to take place.
Speaker 3:The area is going to be concrete.
Speaker 1:The plate is going to be made.
Speaker 3:The plate is going to be made.
Speaker 1:It needs to happen. It needs to happen 4.3 million floor installs are allocated for the project here.
Speaker 3:Make sure you put it on your website so people can see it. If they don't see it in your place, they'll put it on their place. If they don't see it in your place, they'll say, hey, I got 3 million to put it here. Put it here. Okay, but two things I want to add. So one day?
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure I want to. What this military is trying to explain is that when you're coming to the beach now, you're going to also have a lot more traffic of people. It's going to be a lot of people. It's going to be a lot of people because it's shady or whatever, Without a hotel. That's Baby Beach right now.
Speaker 3:It's nasty. Locals don't go to Baby Beach, maybe twice a year. It don't happen.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:So I woke up.
Speaker 2:If you have A hotel Plus putting all these Other additional condos Coming A beach Rogers the whole strip, even if it's a protected beach With catamarans and speedboats. But People, people are going to be going crazy Right now.
Speaker 1:The marine protected area has different rules To operate If there's no activity. I want to keep it like this.
Speaker 2:Everything has a price. That's the problem. If the price is right, you can get it, baby. Come on down, here you go, here you go.
Speaker 1:Damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right, damn right.
Speaker 3:Okay, the next. Thing.
Speaker 2:He's on it. I think it needs to have more social activities. He's on it, I think it needs to have more social activities for people in general, as in having we bring the tourists to San Nicolas. But now what? There's nothing socially going on. I think we need more social activities for people in after school and do stuff. And time, time management that's a big factor. Sometimes I don't want to drive. I would take public transportation. If it was reliable, it helps 100%. I would take public transportation if it was reliable.
Speaker 2:It helps. It helps like Spar Black it helps 100% Earth in the Gaia.
Speaker 1:Fuck that. Yeah, yes, I was in Urselo Quebec. Then go beyond home, minister Urselo Quebec, then gobierno como minister Ursel came and made me a cartera back de transporte the company did this imagine if you take something different, and then other people have transport, and then they mess up fully with what you create off, and then you do something good with it and you don't have credit. What are you doing? I don't care about the credit, though.
Speaker 2:But you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't care about the credit, though, but you know what I mean. Like, yeah, I don't care about the credit, but you know what I mean Like, yeah, I don't care about the credit.
Speaker 3:But you know what I mean I don't care about the credit, I don't care about the credit, I don't care about the credit, I don't care about the credit, I don't care about the credit, I don't care about the credit.
Speaker 1:I don't know what to say about integrity, but basically, you know, we stopped all corruption Thanks to the root there is In another paradise. There is still a minister who is how do you say? Give me an example A minister who is in Canarão and is the advisor of another minister Suspicious, because he is so suspicious that he oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. If you don't give them advice, then they say we will create a new government.
Speaker 2:If you don't give them a good government.
Speaker 1:You will never make the necessary changes To the people, to the people.
Speaker 2:You make changes, so you know what we are doing Okay, transparent, but the changes are 1.2 million Because, baby, this Don't even tell me to go straight. But you know, you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:You, I don't know. Stop corruption.
Speaker 2:Stop corruption.
Speaker 3:Sorry, correction. Oh, like Three different ministers, not even a parliament, a minister.
Speaker 2:No, no, what's his name?
Speaker 3:Andy oh. You snitch for the pueblo. I never gave a job to my boss To practice how to find a job, but I was a minister in.
Speaker 2:September.
Speaker 1:Now I asked my team. My team is a team of rivals, so no one is supporting me. I came from another political party, from another corner. My team is a team of rivals. We support each other. We come from different political parties, from different corners, but I was looking for professionals. So we need to be together, no matter what Our colors. We need to be together for the benefit of Aruba. I asked for a quick scan of all the obligations that the ministry has. I told them that I have people to pay for it, but they didn't let me. They didn't let me. They said stop paying. That's fucked up.
Speaker 3:I'm like bro, it's the right thing to do, like, but.
Speaker 1:I want a reason to become a politician and to become a land of roots in 2017. Two themes nature and integrity and this is a theme that I'm proud to attend because all two are important for the entire people of Aruba, and I'm just I'm also here because it's an important issue for the people of Aruba and I'm not just talking about it, I'm taking action to guarantee that we have a good government.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you feel that you have a good seat in the back. Do you feel like it's going to happen?
Speaker 1:I feel positive about the reception we have in the community and, to be honest with you, I want to make history in politics. I want to make a history in politics. Since 1986, there have been only two political parties MAP and AVP to surpass 2 to 100. No other political party has reached 3 to 100 since 1986. We are on a crucial crossroads as a country and the 2024 election to bring not only us but also another non-Tambico party together with us to form history and surpass 200, to change politics forever in Aruba and I think that this is the root of the manifestation of the Aruba community the feeling is that no one wants to vote for Hill of Badness. It's not a drastic change and that's what we want to guarantee to the people. Agreed.
Speaker 2:Okay now, yes, okay, we'll do it in a second.
Speaker 3:Now the answer is back to back. Okay, the second question with our hair was from Arata. We have two questions From Tizio Fakasi Are you going to stay in Africa? No, kiko, what I'm jealous, I'm jealous.
Speaker 2:I'm jealous, I'm jealous, I'm jealous, I'm jealous, I'm jealous, I'm jealous, I'm jealous, I'm jealous, I'm jealous, I'm jealous, I'm jealous, I'm jealous, I'm jealous, I'm jealous, I'm jealous.
Speaker 3:I'm jealous, I'm jealous, I'm jealous.
Speaker 1:I'm jealous. I I organized two forums during my ministry, but three are tour partners, a national dialogue, a national forum for the adult. Tomorrow I will have an official report of all the things I discussed and what solutions I can implement. As for the adult, I will launch a direction which will also implement the management of the Delta Plan which I have presented, which is a vision to serve the adult-mayors, and we will solve the problem that has been in the government for decades. We will create a passageway that will give relief to the people. Thank you, but as far as the adult is concerned, I hope that the award will be given to Kinana and Kinana Awards will also be able to reap the fruits and benefits of the national dialogue that is going to be with all the people together and, in dialogue, channelize the solutions that we want to see.
Speaker 1:And Kinana Awards is finishing two projects. One is Zorch Zwarte Paquete, which is going to organize the type of care. I had four instances where I had the type of care I needed and at the same time, I introduced the standard level of care, the right level of care and the requirements of the Atenean, and my teacher said that, considering the level of requirements that the teacher complies with. Now I tell my teacher that there are in total 14 cases of care. None of them have a recovery. Some of them have recovery. Others have a great spirit that the teacher complies with recovery Exactly.
Speaker 1:So now we are going to give them a subsidy to eliminate, to mitigate the burden that they are bearing on their families and to give them a higher adult. If they don't have care, they don't have to pay, and if the pension doesn't come, the family doesn't have to cover it. So now it's affecting the cost of life. So this is a step that we are taking to guarantee that the adult is better, has a good quality of life and a good quality of care.
Speaker 3:The message is dumping in a lugar. That's what I'm talking about, Correct.
Speaker 1:The issue of adult mayor. We need to find a political platform. We know how to solve it, but we have diversified politics and nature. Adult mayor and climate change is a problem with the political platform.
Speaker 2:Sorry, just to add, I think a cast of adult mayor is not a Sorry yeah, just by not follow up, just by Adrie. I think um a cast of an adult is not a bad thing.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying it's bad, I know, I know, I know that.
Speaker 2:But I'm saying, like, if I get old, I want to be like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like. I would love to go. How do you make a cast? This is fun. There's casino night, there's bingo night, carnival night. How do you make it worth it? Enjoy that time.
Speaker 1:I want to be here and that's exactly what we're doing right now. I was there for like four hours. I was there for like four hours. I was there for like four hours. I was there for like four hours. I was there for like four hours. I was there for like four hours. I was there for like four hours. I was there for like four hours. I was there for like four hours.
Speaker 3:I was there for like four hours. I was there for like four hours. I was there for like four hours, I was there for like four hours.
Speaker 1:I was there for like four hours. I was there for like four hours.
Speaker 3:I was there for like four hours. I fucking unhappy. Yes, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly exactly exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1:Thank you. They created the Aruba that we have today, and the minimum we should do is guarantee them a good quality of care.
Speaker 2:I agree how there's not a Bosco, that he went on beach.
Speaker 3:My name is Chaka Bezos. You do bingo nights, you do carnival nights, movie nights. Every day 7 pm there's a movie. Something going on Something going on, Something going on.
Speaker 1:First I'm going to be a minister. Do you know how many hours I'm going?
Speaker 2:to be Zero.
Speaker 1:No, no, I'm going to be a minister After the election July. The election is on June 25th July to September. I'm going to be a parliamentarian, so I already had in mind what the ministry wants. So we had a process to negotiate. So my teacher talked about voting 2021. So, as a parliamentarian, I asked the minister. I asked him how much will you invest in the last four years for the older adult?
Speaker 3:How much?
Speaker 1:And he said not 20,000 florins To order. How much? It's not even 20,000 florins. Are you kidding me? I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know, it's so crazy. What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what what.
Speaker 3:What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what what.
Speaker 2:Okay, no, wait, on a very serious note, I want to acknowledge that you're working. I hope you fucking say yeah, these niggas always talk About millions, millions, millions. We work our asses off when.
Speaker 3:No, seriously, I want to say, I want to fucking say I hope you say, I hope you say Just get old and put a house and a house and give it to me. That's crazy how much is it Ursulito.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, where is our money for real? How much is it?
Speaker 3:More or less. How much is it?
Speaker 1:It's a government expense, it's a tourism fund, it's a land fund. So the entrance here we allocate, itating it properly where it goes to education, to transport, to adult or adult.
Speaker 3:It's a transparent code, exactly. If you have a website. I don't know if the ministry has it. How do you understand?
Speaker 1:Público do Atalui.
Speaker 3:You can plug it in, but if there's something like this that exists, aluba, aluba is 5. Whatever Damn.
Speaker 2:In tourism.
Speaker 3:This year Expenses oh shit, 50 million. Yeah, I love that 50 million in the street? Oh shit. How much is it in the elderly care? Yes. How much is it in the police? Hey, you invest in the street. Oh shit. How much do you work In the elderly care? Yes. How much do you work In the police? Hey, you invest In the police. You invest in security, instead of Going to the government and beating them Like the information. If you make the information Accessible, that it was.
Speaker 2:Clip it. That's an amazing breakdown. You should clip that. I think you should clip that. I'm going to get infographics.
Speaker 3:I'm going to get a little bit of work. I'm going to do another effect. I'm going to do four eyes. No, no, no, by 2024. By what? By what?
Speaker 2:I'm going to do a little bit of work. I'm going to do another scene. Okay, I'm going to do a little work.
Speaker 1:I'm going to do another scene. I'll show you. Look here.
Speaker 3:Okay, just look at him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just look at him.
Speaker 1:Your camera is better In 2018, 3,800 florins, in 2019, 14,800 florins and in 2020, 4,700 florins. What's that I'm going to allocate for the older adult?
Speaker 3:That's for the invest For the older adult 4,000. 4 4,700 florins in 2020 and when will you invest in? 2019 14,800 and in 2018 3,800 and when will you invest in a?
Speaker 1:year that doesn't pass. If it passes a day, it's possible 1.8 million it's all about numbers and facts it's allocating funds prioritized no, no no, you know that I have my google drive. I have to organize my file. I have to do it. But if an adult has a priority, he has to do what he has to do to get the money he has to do.
Speaker 3:That's crazy. We're going to jump in a second. We're going to skip one question, otherwise we're going to be here forever. Yeah, we question, otherwise we're gonna be here forever yeah because we can talk here for like two hours let's go sorry, sorry.
Speaker 2:So I'm just saying because I'm excited now all right multiple choice questions.
Speaker 3:Make sure you get it right. Um worldwide topic that aruba is not immune to. From the perspective of your political party, what is aruba's strategy for mitigating over tourism and promoting regenerative tourism in 2025, according to Aruba Tourism Authority, is it A increasing guest arrivals by 20%. Is it B attracting high value guests who align with responsible tourism principles. Is it C focusing solely on luxury tourism. Or D encouraging mass tourism to boost economic growth? B Right answer.
Speaker 1:No, no, no.
Speaker 2:No, because I feel like he watched the episodes already. No, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't watch it.
Speaker 1:I didn't watch it, but I want to tell you this I'm happy with the direction of Responsible Tourism. I'm happy with the work that we're doing in 2024. We're realizing the importance of nature. We're only finishing in 2018. We're going to produce a port with our surpasses in carrying capacity. So now everybody is aligning that nature is important. Our economy is not tourism. Nature is our economy and we must recognize it as a country.
Speaker 3:People come from Europe for nature. It's a beach, it's a lake, it's the same thing. Alright, second question Since Charlyson doesn't have his phone, put it there. As general knowledge. Tourism is vital to Aruba's economy, driving development, job creation and local business growth. As the island's main export, it significantly contributes to Aruba's GDP. What percentage of Aruba's nominal GDP is diverted from tourism? Is it A, 50%, b, 60%, c, 70% or D 80%?
Speaker 1:80%.
Speaker 3:Close but wrong 70? 70%, all right. Last question ATA is currently shifting its focus on the types of guests it attracts. What is a key benefit of the shift for the local community? Is it A decreased job opportunities in tourism, improved quality of life through sustainable practices, higher property taxes for residents? Community input is not considered in tourism planning.
Speaker 3:B is it considered in tourism planning B? Is it B? Yes, perfect, right answer. Good job. Improve quality of life through sustainable practices. Thank you, ata and Hata, for all your questions. Now let's get back to the show, okay. Ask the next question Okay, we're going to talk about the politics of the coalition.
Speaker 1:Oh, the next government is going to be a coalition.
Speaker 2:Well, it seems like you did a great job with this coalition. Sorry, I'm sorry my guy, sorry, sorry my guy. You're just trying to talk to someone. Let me talk back.
Speaker 3:Let me talk back. Let me talk back. By the way, guys, if you follow no Filter in Paris on Instagram, I'm not sure we're going to be doing something fun in the next couple of days on Instagram. We're going to be doing something fun in the next couple of days. I sent you a sample. It's going to be a lot of fun. I'm going to post it. I know you're going to like it. It's going to be fun.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. I'm going to stream it on Twitch, that's it.
Speaker 3:First question Do you want to be in the back of the map of the coalition?
Speaker 1:I want to recruit people. First question Will Arizona back?
Speaker 3:with.
Speaker 2:MAPS in the coalition. What are you talking about?
Speaker 3:Let me rephrase the question If Arizona is in a coalition, what does it make a difference if it's MAP or not?
Speaker 1:learning experience. Learning experience? No, I want you to. I want you to be sure that you want to correct, to guarantee that the department, that the minister, benefits from another ministry that has an agreement from the moment it comes with us. Give me an example. I'm going to deliver a petition. It's beneficial for the other ministry to have an agreement from the moment when it's back. This is an example. I delivered a petition for a re-capitalization of the park. It was on March 5, 2023. Now it's November 2024. I still don't have a re-capitalization. A government department didn't give its advice on re-capitalization, so 20 months later but what do?
Speaker 3:you mean by that? Do you have a plan? Do you have?
Speaker 1:something to gain. My cap is the party's money. My solution is to overshadow the political party, because they've been doing this for decades. And in politics you are not allowed to overshadow other political parties, because it's not the benefit of the public that counts. So how would you score?
Speaker 2:for the last coalition, if you have to be all the way honest From 1 to 10. How would you score as a team, the decisions you make for Aruba In this?
Speaker 1:circumstance. We are going through a pandemic. Our teachers usually decide when it's easy. What's the score? Madhud, I would give it a seven. Okay, I would give it a seven. Okay, I would give it a seven. I'm honest, I feel that not only me, but also my former colleague as a minister. We are working with our BIM to benefit Aruba.
Speaker 3:I have a question for you, because I'm going to ask you.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:My former colleague. I'm sorry, De partido Correcto. I know that Joffrey mentioned the revenue show over in San Nicolás and that Kibera Moray connected the beach with, according to me, Bushalter or what.
Speaker 1:Connected the beach with the coffee shop in front of the coffee shop.
Speaker 3:What is your opinion over this?
Speaker 1:I have confirmed that the revenue show in 2021. What's your opinion on this? It's not possible to steal. It's not possible to steal. Until I get back to my home, I'll be in another part of my vision 2017. 2021, but double down A refinery in another part of my vision. Now our company is in the governance of Landy College Cafe, but we have 20 walls above us. We'll be in the San Nicolas after 100 years and the waterfront back will be here.
Speaker 3:What are you stopping to start developing?
Speaker 1:here to remove the wall to provide waterfront access to San Nicolas to take place and I hope the political party online will post over the.
Speaker 3:They will put a yacht club or a boat like a port. But how do you say seaport cruise tours?
Speaker 1:cruise tour.
Speaker 3:Miranda will mention the part that will protect it and with of it is to protect the land and to know it.
Speaker 1:No there's no port or refinery.
Speaker 3:But it's true.
Speaker 2:The.
Speaker 1:Fulbo community is saying a lot that they don't want mass tourism.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to offer you exactly that. I'm going to organize a symposium in Aruba. I'm going to invite a person, an expert. You say wow, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um um. Symposium um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um um um, um, I prefer vehicle farming or something that helps to improve your economy in terms of creating jobs and low prices for local products.
Speaker 1:For the root. We propose five economic sectors For San Nicolas. The orange economy is the way to go, damn right. But yesterday we also presented for San Nicolas the silver economy, that's an economy dedicated to the elderly. So nos tiene Emsam Caba y Nánam nos mester, por tanto nos aportó un incentivo fiscal preferencial para pasar día a otro tipo de negocio dedicado a adultos mayores Establecido en Nánam, pero sí en el sector bancario, por llegar a reglas diferentes que hacen que empujen el cuidado. But the banking sector has to reach a different level so that we can push equity, push the commercial sector to be able to establish in San Nicolas to dedicate to the adult, the self-reconomy, the primary sector. We are producing less than 1% of everything we consume in Aruba. In here we are going to finish and end at 4%. We are going to increase the sector here by 400% to produce locally. But here in the year we have a goal to open, because this year Aruba has imported more than half a billion florins in fruit and vegetables.
Speaker 2:Imagine if we produced in Aruba.
Speaker 1:It's a management that we are implementing. What the fuck is this Fake sky? It will create an economic spin-off. Bohemia will become healthier.
Speaker 3:And healthy air. Once I keep past the size, I'll be able to split the budget.
Speaker 1:And now we have three cables. Another is the energy transition. Every year we are importing above 285 million florins in heavy fuel oil, hfo. This is the worst fossil fuel that we can use to produce water and electricity. We have an abundance of soil and wind. It's an area of refinery. We can use it to transition into sustainable energy, green energy.
Speaker 1:We have a lot of money here to create our own economy. We have money to create a new type of work and to create an economic spinoff. So this is a cost that we are looking at. It's viable for our economy and we want to make it a platform. A platform, not a political party, not a platform where professionals come to contribute. We are here as incubators. We are preparing professionals and they have to go. They have to go, but now they are going to do something, I'm sure, with values of roots and and the ink stays. The ink goes, but now it doesn't go. One thing I'm sure of with another thing that values the root and one aspect that is important for us the importance that nature has for our survival.
Speaker 3:I hope you enjoyed this conversation. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it.
Speaker 2:I would feel so bad if you didn't jump, I would jump you.
Speaker 3:I hope you enjoyed this conversation. I hope you enjoyed this conversation you. I'm not good with follow up questions. The sharks are broken. I feel like you're very much engaged, I'm not going to lie. I feel like these are serious topics. Man, we're all going to get old one day. I need some what's up Bingo in the fucking lugar.
Speaker 1:70% you're never going to change that. What you have to do is create economical sectors that can benefit the locals and also benefit from the tourism sector.
Speaker 3:I'm not a fan of other cruise port in San Nicolas I. I'm looking for different kind of sector Vertical farming, tomatoes, lettuce, cannabis, whatever. Create jobs. Look for agriculture.
Speaker 2:There's so much more to offer Solar area, vertical farming?
Speaker 3:No, let's put a cruise terminal, bro. We, we're small, we're small, we're small, we're small, we're small.
Speaker 1:We're small. We're small, fucking cruise terminal.
Speaker 2:Bro, we Bro, we Bro, we Bro, we Bro we.
Speaker 1:Bro, we Bro, we Bro, we Bro, we Bro we.
Speaker 2:Bro, we Bro, we Bro, we Bro, we Bro we.
Speaker 1:Bro, we Bro, we Bro we.
Speaker 2:Bro, we Bro. Well, if cheap food is more accessible and it's less expensive than the healthy food, then how can we eat 70% of our population?
Speaker 3:is obese.
Speaker 1:That's a good idea 16.24% of our population is diabetic. We're number one in the world per capita.
Speaker 3:We're number one in shock, number one in obesity, number one in.
Speaker 2:And just now, we're not going to be, we're not going to be Needing top 5, that's going to be overpopulated, oh wow.
Speaker 3:I mean we're closer to the evenar.
Speaker 2:The evenar. I was paying attention.
Speaker 1:Thank you, charco, thank you.
Speaker 2:Charco.
Speaker 3:I want to ask you what are you planning to do over the Orange Economy? What are you planning to invest in? You're a creative person.
Speaker 1:I was going to say that you have a presentation and you're going to person. You put it on the presentation. I was going to say you're going to present it when you finish an Orange Refinery, so I also put it on You're from Colombia, right? I'm from Colombia, ex-minister of Culture of Colombia, with Focus on Exactly this is what CREA is like.
Speaker 2:It's your vision yeah, he was part of that.
Speaker 3:I thought you were John King.
Speaker 1:No, the John King he was in the Barbados right. That was a good one, and now I'm in the scene with.
Speaker 3:Rope Aruba, aruba culture and something, something creative yeah and with her implementing a certain thing in Barbados, with her working with a lot of security.
Speaker 1:Aruba implemented a lot of security and a lot of videos after the event we had a conversation with him via Zoom to get his brain what's your plan San Nicolas In general. Not just San Nicolas, but San Nicolas is the capital of the culture and creative industry, so what we want to do is empower them here, but there's a lot of activity on the ground. Almost all the activity that you are dedicating to the creative industry are taking place in the low season Exactly. You have all the hotels Ever.
Speaker 3:Ever restaurant. Does that Ever? No, the Everdom.
Speaker 1:But like in Lima, in.
Speaker 3:Everdom Ever Amazing. No, they're Avedon. They eat in Lima. They're Avedon. They go to Lima. They have a restaurant. It's a fine dining restaurant.
Speaker 1:Amazing, it's an experience.
Speaker 3:Amazing the first thing when you go to a restaurant, there's an art gallery and two people plus there's a restaurant with different art. Two people sell and if people get drunk like hey, hey, yo, I'll take that and you know 100%, the profits are for the artists and it's all local artists.
Speaker 1:It's all local artists imagine all the hotels in Aruba, instead of importing art to use local artists. It's like a hotel, like an art gallery for local artists.
Speaker 3:Imagine, imagine your hotel in the lobby and every guest knows that everything you see is for. Imagine a hotel in a lobby and every guest knows that everything you see is for sale. Like two fucking paintings.
Speaker 2:It doesn't matter, you just know you can buy it, I want it.
Speaker 3:Okay, cool, I have a car. Where should we ship it?
Speaker 1:And then I put the tourism to benefit.
Speaker 3:Orange and Kwanzaa.
Speaker 1:So we already have the tourists now. So now, how are we going to make it? Make the creative industry benefit from the tourists 100%.
Speaker 2:Except for you. You listen to them. I mean, the artists are working, so it takes a little bit of time.
Speaker 1:It takes a little bit of time, I started a collaboration with Creative Summit.
Speaker 3:A creative business academy, yes, but I've already been doing it for a year, but I'm sure there's something I can learn 100% always. Although I've been doing this for a year, I feel like I'm slacking in every area, so I'm waiting. If the body area, so I have to wait. If not, it's my problem. I have a question what?
Speaker 1:you said exactly what you said. Joffrey is helping the Empowered Sector. We are here together for Agribusiness Academy. We are preparing 90 people. Now it's clear we are going together. We are creating AgriFont. Agrifont, the original one, 5,000 with 200,000, 90 people. Then now it's clear we go together. We create agri-fund, because agri-fund originally was 5,000 with 200,000 fluorine, 2% interest and that's how we are empowering the sector, rachel, for mushrooms.
Speaker 1:That's correct. So now we are empowering the sector, we have a vision, but no bank is leaning to empower the sector because it's collateral. You have to lean in to empower the sector Because it's collateral and if you don't have collateral with the bank.
Speaker 1:you can't get back, for it Can't be mushrooms now. That's why like, why couldn't they? So that's what we're trying to do to empower agriculture, the primary sector, and the original formula is the same we're trying to empower the creative industry and we want will benefit Aruba in the long term. What we will do in the next four years will dictate the success of Aruba for the next four years. But I want to say that this is a crucial point with the election and it's important for Aruba to be in the right position so that the people of Uruguay have a good government.
Speaker 3:I think that when you do a background check with the people of the government that you're with, you have to know that the government and the government have an advice from the minister. You have to know that the minister has at least some sort of level of education or something like that. It's not finances, but it's always so cocky. Like topic but finances, but you're always cocky.
Speaker 1:What the fuck are you doing with finances? I want to know what you're doing with finances. You don't have to be a pilot and say that you're going to drive an airport. I want to know what you're doing with finances. Manage people. Inspire people that they can work for you so you can achieve your common goal. I feel like a robot. I'll tell you this. The election creates division. What?
Speaker 3:we have to do is unite the community, Unite the community.
Speaker 1:So if the great leader is local, worldwide, he has the power to unite the community to make sure that we don't have to drive the country to the end. That's what's important. I know that the political party is beautiful. We all want the best for our people, so let's unite, and the one that has the best vision and can execute the best they should be voted realistically yeah so let me, let me add this to you, of like paint a perspective, so.
Speaker 2:But I mentioned, I worry, cool. So last election Pueblo no ha votado por esa coalición. Ela passa por sobre a raíz. Como é para decidir que um não quer sentar com o outro? Você sente que aceita o que Pueblo pede.
Speaker 1:Me interessa Aceita o que nós escolhemos E hoje, no momento já tem a melhor opção que a gente tem Por sobre. Se não, nós vamos trabalhar dentro da coalición com o ministro que with a minister who is very likely to be a suspect, and then we have to start innocent until proven guilty. This is something that we also have to analyze and see what is better at the moment to govern and we feel, as a platform and see if it is a better decision now or not, If we do it differently from the original, maybe if we do it with different choices. But I get that part. I get that part no-transcript.
Speaker 2:A lot of people is like fuck, like Raiz was really doing it and then this happened like oh okay, raiz like okay, like for the first time Pueblo was actually making different noise, and then okay.
Speaker 1:I'm not mad about that. What's a dump illegal?
Speaker 3:Dump illegal Around the island, I don't know in 2012, there were 62 upgrades 31 that were used for illegal dumping last year we did a revision of all upgrades.
Speaker 1:There was a total of 43, so we spent 10 years, 19 on Sera, yenaku Sushi and Sera and there are 6 active as illegal dumping and we are monitoring weekly using technology, we are taking them out and we, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Speaker 2:Sorry Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry Sorry.
Speaker 3:Sorry, they're never going to say like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good opinion, as in looking at values or whatever, looking at mentality, whatever factor or management skills.
Speaker 1:I prefer that you hypothetical no no, I prefer that you don't only vote in two parties, but I want that if people vote in the election and from one certain position, if you're a small party and you're not going to make two traditional parties for the government, I want you to know that the people of Aruba will benefit greatly. But I want you to know that there will be a moment where this change is drastic and if you make two traditional parties and you send them both to opposition, I want you to know that Aruba will benefit greatly.
Speaker 3:I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1:I agree, I agree, I I believe de raíz. Entonces está cambiando en grande, aunque la cosa que Gopián no cae, pero está cambiando en grande en política. Entonces ahí está costando. Me interesa raíz esta manifestación de lo que te piba de un pueblo, pero me interesa manifestar y así cambia en drástico. Me interesa al final del día a Ruba, me beneficia de cambiar aquí A ver está siendo así.
Speaker 3:I want to ask you something. Imagine two big parties. Two of them have people who are condemned for investigation. I want to ask you there are two big parties Only two have people with political condemnation, with investigation.
Speaker 1:I think it's a drastic change. It started on 6th of December with different votes. Two traditional parties are in the government.
Speaker 2:I put it here Another small party decided to play the main game. I don't know if you feel like it no, no. I don't know if it's going to be like that. No, no, it's not like that.
Speaker 1:Imagine if there's a Jusum between the small games. I want you to put the game in the back of your head and change it drastically Last election there was a shit M5 seat when the game was big. There was a drastic change. This election is going to be a lot more If Jus, if you get a lot of money, you will benefit a lot.
Speaker 3:If you get a lot of money, you will benefit a lot. You just hear it. With the environment. I'm like bro, come on.
Speaker 1:No, I mean we have a lot of money that we can use to profit. But we also have a new official system. Pwc Nederland has a big line here with the ministry and creates a vast ministry where the government changes but the apparatus doesn't change. There's a minister but there's a team of officials who are very guided by the next minister.
Speaker 3:Was it Carlos?
Speaker 2:I brought it up, for sure, somebody also talked about this.
Speaker 1:You have to guarantee continuity, correct? You have talked about this. Scratch. It's wild, alright, and that will help you to achieve that Basically. Hey, you want to try it Go figure it out.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's wild. All right, let's get off now. Ersel, thank you for being on the show. I hope you'll be back in the future. I have a question. If you were to go to a place and you wanted, a wallet.
Speaker 1:What would you want I?
Speaker 3:um cartera, we can go back For sure. I mean, I mean I'm going to be a big guy at this. Make sure I'm not saying, okay, well, I'm going to do a little bit of a camera for you. Explain to the person who's watching when you're going to vote for Russell and Raiz Political mode.
Speaker 1:Awesome, awesome, all right guys.
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