No Filter in Paradise
Two friends, one's straight one's Gay, with different backgrounds, interest, upbringing & outlook in life come together to have a Fun & honest conversation and discuss their opinions on different topics... with no filter.
No Filter in Paradise
Stephany Sevinger: Ami no ta mi tata | EP 172
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Nos a sinta cu Stephany Sevinger, #4 riba lista di AVP. Stephany tambe ta e yui di Benny Sevinger. Nos a touch topico nan tokante su tata, plan nan pa San Nicolas, penshonado nan, Cannabis, su background, enseñansa y mucho mas
Mayoria di nos pregunta nan ta di boso, e hende nan di Aruba. Nos tey pa ta boso voz den e conversation aki cu e politico nan.
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Political Podcast Banter and Nicknames
Speaker 1Stop pretending. You're not here to be a judge. You're here to fucking ban us. Mike makes a fine number Kiko 30, 29. He's fucking.
Speaker 2Mike Iman. He's still gonna get more votes than anybody else on the list. What are you talking about? Be for real.
Speaker 3If the government really wants to take over the country, they'll just continue with the vote. But you know ego plays a role. If you know that, you know that we'll continue with the election of another country.
Speaker 2It plays a role, so you know we're going to continue the vision of another party, and that's difficult because, for those reasons, we're not in the same way, though but if you don't like Samir, you can imagine you're here the whole day with him and he doesn't like you.
Speaker 3He doesn't have anyone to push with him, with Ricardo Cruz.
Speaker 2Yet, Pepe Adam.
Speaker 1Pepe Adam let's not go there. I don't have any income to support Cokie Masco, ricardo Cruz yet PPA. I'm going to push it. Did he do PPA? Let's not go there. Hey, I'm going to do the Atmos. No, that's low.
Speaker 2Hey, fuck Brr da, da da Shots fired. Don't be on Facebook.
Speaker 1Otmar, otmar, otmar, otmar, otmar, all right. Hey, yo what's up.
Speaker 2LA Chemistess Guys, welcome back to the ABC Islands' favorite podcast, no Filter in Paradise, a show about anything and everything between two fucking friends. One is super fucking straight and I got my ring today.
Speaker 3Hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 1Shit Ridiculous.
Speaker 2One is super fucking straight and I got my ring today ridiculous, uh, super straight, and the other one super duper gay baby. So, guys, as always and shark hates it when I say this this is not a political show. This is a show about two friends asking politicians questions that you guys ask. So we're here to answer your, you know, ask your fucking questions. That's it. So so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so so so you guys.
Speaker 2Just drop the audio, but first, before we start, I want to say sorry With a butcher number On social media.
Speaker 1But when you?
Speaker 2message me. Oh man, I see you, I'm writing to you, I'm so happy.
Speaker 1Not man, it's my message.
Speaker 2Sorry, oh man. Guys, we have Stephanie. Welcome Stephanie.
Speaker 3Hello, hello, do you?
Speaker 2want to say hello to.
Speaker 3Steph, Of course yes.
Speaker 2Let's go. I think I have another nickname. I'm going to come up with a nickname.
Speaker 3Yes, everybody has nicknames.
Speaker 1I'm very cute. Well, okay, I'm going to come up with a nickname. I'm going to come up with another nickname this is Gisali. This is Gisali. My name is Steffi. It has to be cute, you know You'll figure it out, I'll figure it out.
Speaker 3No nicknames, I'm Latin right, so if you call me Tefi on Tevo, don't do that in Aruba?
Speaker 1Oh no, not.
Speaker 3Tefi.
Speaker 2Don't do that in Aruba, please. Oh God, what's your name? Fulano.
Speaker 3Colombia. Oh shit, if you call my cousin please don.
Speaker 1Oh god, no, I would punch them.
Speaker 2Even though Lightlight Me love. What's the nickname? Hey, we have a question For the audience. We have a question, basically, icebreaker, which is About ProFrame. Can you bring A case in the room, please, one with a bag ProFrame.
Speaker 3Okay, well, do.
Speaker 2ProFrame Okay, window with a door.
Casual Conversations and Favorite Things
Speaker 3Maybe I don't hear you, but ProFrame Okay ventana no comporta Perfect.
Speaker 1We put them on the map.
Speaker 3Perfect, go nowhere else. I won't keep looking. Say no more.
Speaker 2It's the first question. No, it's the hangout with oh my God, see, it's so hard.
Speaker 3No, I hang out with two friends and I love them both. No, you don't.
Speaker 1Okay, you gotta choose one though. No one, no, you have to choose one. You have to choose one. You have to choose one. You have to choose one. You have to choose one, you have to choose one.
Speaker 3She's like, let's go this way, it's not right, it's not left. It's straight.
Speaker 2Topa, you know the meme of like let them never do your next move, yeah.
Speaker 1Well, Mike the Meg.
Speaker 2I'll go with this one here.
Speaker 1Mike the Chill though, so that's a good one. It was a good conversation we this one here, mike DeChiel, though, so that's a good one. It was a good conversation.
Speaker 2We love Mikey by the way, do you know your last trip? I don't know, I don't know. Are you trying to?
Speaker 3get inside information.
Speaker 2Oh, no, no, we already got it. He said it. He said it, he said it. Oh, that person, oh my God, okay.
Speaker 3Well, it's basically to teach my hobby, to make it your way to make it, your experience.
Speaker 2That's good, that's good.
Speaker 3Of course that's a nice teacher I like to talk to her.
Speaker 2How old are you?
Speaker 327.
Speaker 2How old are you? How old are you? I'm't know First day.
Speaker 3Oh, it's 2017. Oh, you do the math. No, I'm joking. 19, 19, 20.
Speaker 2And then, who was the? Who was the first, first thing you voted for?
Speaker 3Ah, that's an easy one. Banning Zyvenger. Okay, good, all right.
Speaker 2Now, I wanted you to answer that because this is a follow-up question. Okay, I know, right, I love that.
Speaker 3I know, I know, I know, I know, no, uh-uh, because you're on the list. No, you're on the list. You're on the list, no, but there on the list.
Speaker 2You're on the list, but there are other people who can respect that outside of your own party. They're like ooh Sorry.
Speaker 3What the fuck are you saying sorry for?
Speaker 2I feel like I'm getting eyes over here on my neck.
Speaker 3I don't know, oh my God, I don't know if my mouth is supposed to say I vote for Miguel.
Speaker 1Okay, nice, I vote for Miguel. Damn Alright. Everybody mentions this man.
Speaker 2Because he's always like he's, very vocal about everything he does Like it's kind of like your attitude.
Speaker 1It's like someone I could hang out with it's the gays. It's fun, he's fun. You like the gays? No, yeah, I like it. What's the vibe?
Speaker 2I like the vibe. What's the vibe? I like the vibe. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3No, no, it's okay, it's okay. I like them straight too. Wait what.
Speaker 2I'll leave it.
Speaker 3Nothing gets cut here, nada, all right. So which type?
Speaker 2of music. Do you like Music? I like everything. No, no, no, for real. Okay, give me top three.
Speaker 3Let's say bachata, okay, okay.
Speaker 2In different genres. I want to make something. I want to make something like comedy, oh shit, okay, stop. So I have a side Salsa. Let's do salsa, okay, who is your favorite artist right now?
Speaker 3Micro TDAH.
Speaker 2Who Exactly he's like a?
Speaker 3Venezuelan trap.
Speaker 2Very low key, but I like him. I took salsa classes, but that's pretty much it. That's not in, got a little bit of waistline.
Speaker 3What, to be honest, I took some classes but that's pretty much it, that's not in Got a little bit of waistline.
Speaker 2What.
Speaker 1Never mind the fuck.
Speaker 2How long have you been in Aruba One? Month and a half, two months Shit, yes, but it's October, but you said you've been on vacation several times. I'm not asking. I'm just asking. I'm not asking you anything. I'm not asking you anything. I'm not asking you anything.
Speaker 3No, I've lived in Aruba almost my whole life. I went to Aruba when I was 18. According to me, I was 18. In 2016, I went Okay, no, I went to study. I went to Miami. I studied at.
Speaker 2Miami Dade College, florida International. You went to Florida. I did college Florida.
Speaker 3International Florida, Holland, for some reason. No, I didn't. No, I've been back. I found another place. I didn't go there. The whole thing happened.
Speaker 2And now I'm going to Holland, oh, okay.
Speaker 3I've lived in Holland for two years, so for him I'm not going to go back.
Speaker 2You're saying that you're going to be in Holland by being alive.
Speaker 3Yes, which country is the most over underrated? The place is not overrated.
Speaker 2that's a hard one be honest like if you're like no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.
Speaker 1I'm not, because it's true.
Speaker 3I mean now it's old, it's overly crowded. If you go to a water, it's not as it was. If you go to a water, it's overrated. Baby Beach for one, For two, you know for two. In front of Ex-Weston, you laugh a lot.
Speaker 1For some reason you laugh a lot.
Speaker 3Really my friend kills me.
Speaker 1I've never even been to that beach. What torren.
Speaker 2It's like the little thing that they keep fixing every fucking year.
Speaker 3You don't know it.
Speaker 2Sure, what the fuck. Where do you live, san Nicolas?
Speaker 1Of course.
Speaker 2Like hello. Yeah, where do you live, san Nicolas? Of course Like hello.
Speaker 1Yeah, I can tell you about those, for sure.
Speaker 2No like by the Rio, in front of the Rio, there's like this little big thing in the water, like a pier.
Speaker 1I mean locals aren't really allowed to swim at Rio, so I don't really go there that much, but that's like one of the most local places.
Speaker 3Surprisingly of the most local places. Yeah, surprisingly, yeah like for what locals? Because not?
Speaker 1well, at least it used to be. I don't know how it is now, I've never.
Speaker 2I'm sorry that was the last question actually, okay, no okay, underrated, oh my god.
Speaker 3Um, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't say that I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it.
Speaker 2I like it. I used to do a lot of off-roading With a hiking person.
Speaker 3No off-roading. I used to do it a lot, but I stopped at the car and went down Because there's no light pollution. I just drove around, I walked in the stars.
Speaker 2It's a really nice place. That is nice, but you also do the Cerro Colorado, yes. Like the whole star thing.
Speaker 3Cerro Cristal. Nobody goes there anymore and we used to love it alright.
Speaker 1I have to tap into this English.
Speaker 3English is my thing, but I can't make it a little bit?
Speaker 1yeah, for sure we can make it. But it's sad. It's been a long time since the end of the year.
Speaker 2We're going to step into it alright hey guys welcome it's the biggest audience I know. Right come to Michigan we're a gang. Michigan with a gang. Gang. Alright, that was the round for the icebreaker. Thank you to pro frame um um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um. So let's go into the first round. You came out of nowhere with a CD. Who does Stephanie see coming?
Speaker 3Okay, I'm going to ask a croquette question.
Speaker 2Croquette or pasta. Croquette With mustard or without mustard? With mustard, okay, good.
Speaker 3Thank you. Okay, okay, she's a little water. I am over it.
Speaker 1I'm like Jesus Christ we're always asking the same questions, but you?
Speaker 3have to know if they don't like it with mustard. It's just criminal.
Speaker 2It's criminal how about pão croququette with sauce and pizza? What?
Speaker 1Thank you. I think Urso. Wait, was it Demesa or Urso?
Speaker 3I've never heard of Demesa.
Speaker 1Urso of Demesa, one of those two, it feels like an.
Speaker 2Urso thing, I think it was Urso.
Speaker 1Sorry, can you talk Sorry?
Speaker 2Susanne, who is Stephanie Zivinger? Well, stephanie Zivinger is a mom, she's a girl she's a woman yes, she's a girl, she's a woman. She does a lot of things. Youth, a woman yes, I have a youth. Nice, I have a woman I have lots of things.
Speaker 3I have a friend. A friend, I'm a nerd, a little bit of it, a professional, a young student, and now I have a politician.
Speaker 2Nice, what have you achieved in the last year in America? In Aruba, what have you goals for the last year in America? What are your goals? Because I see that you have big accomplishments.
Speaker 3Lately, I'm very proud that I won an award at the University of America to represent the University of China.
Speaker 2Oh shit, Is that the year you want to pass? No, 2008. I'm never going to forget that year. I thought it was the best year ever.
Speaker 1I want to know this. Okay, China.
Speaker 3Yes, my school. I graduated with a highest honors, with a 3.7 GPA. I graduated from an honor society, and from the honor society I was invited to be part of a delegation to represent my university in China. So I was the only one from Miami to travel to represent the United States back then Damn.
Speaker 2Nice.
Speaker 3Yes, from Diplomacy to International Relations. So we went to a program where we went three ways we went to Beijing, we went to Xi'an and we went to Shanghai, so different universities of foreign policy that are here. We got to know the Minister of Foreign Affairs. Did you network? Yeah, of course. Okay, okay, we had friendships every day, of course.
Speaker 3It was a solid group. I never forget people and exactly there was something that was eye-opening. I was studying politics in the West Western politics, a completely different place than the East so I was able to handle business there. It's a very important part for China and for me I don't know it's a little bit of a scary thing because I've never been there in so much time, and for me it's completely alone embark on this journey, and for me that's what I was able to do, I was able to handle. It's a sign of respect that you're going to be able to communicate with your family. So something like that is always like receiving a business card. If I receive a business card in China, I'm going to give it to two people.
Speaker 1Two people. Yes, it's a signal of respect.
Speaker 2That's very good, it's from the call and stuff.
Speaker 3I have a date, I go out with him. I have a relationship with him on a personal level.
Speaker 2I'm with him in front of him, I'm with him in the room, I'm with him in the living room. What the hell.
Speaker 1No, but that's the respectful way to do that. No, but that's the respectful way to do that. But that's why most people's business don't last I know.
Speaker 3I know I have to meet others. It's like a full-on dating thing, but it's not a philosophy. I have to meet people, but I have to do business with them. It's like that even in politics.
Speaker 2So you're saying you're implementing this in your life?
Speaker 3Of course, always For the moment. Even my friendships, people who are in my inner circle, I like to meet them, even with my colleagues in the party. Of course, great, not the past, the past.
Speaker 2It's kind of off topic in terms of politics in America. If you were to go to America, would you consider yourself a Democrat or Republican?
Speaker 3I think it's a little bit of a difficult question, but I feel like everyone is kind of leaning towards the same thing. It doesn't say a lot of different things, but the inner core of it is not just the same. Similar yes, it's not just the same Similar. Yes, it's kind of the same thing, so it's mixed. There are ideologies like you feel like Democrats, but there are like Conan. Like you feel like Republicans but financially like Republicans.
Speaker 2On the human side, it's more like yes, a Democrat.
Speaker 3But there's nothing but a liberal then. So you're both on the right side, a Democrat, but in Vienna they say no but a liberal then. So you two are a little right-sided. So politics in America, I don't want to see a difference true in. Europe, yes, no, no, yes we actually have options yes, we actually have options.
Speaker 2Exactly, we actually have options and people have a vision, kind of like you know there's a goal but you have to go with it in a different way.
Speaker 3Exactly exactly Like we did just then, but by left right, we choose to go straight.
Speaker 2So Kiko, I feel like you're different Because I feel like you're new. You're not new in politics, but you're new as in being a politician.
Speaker 1Sí, ¿qué te hace algo diferente de?
Speaker 2la generación antigua y también de la nueva generación. ¿qué te hace algo aparte?
Speaker 3Me gusta el hecho de que no es nuevo para mí. Me gusta que soy joven en edad. Yo estudié turco, pero me gusta la política porque ahora tengo cuatro años. Me gustó cuando est, but I studied Turkish here, but I did politics because I'm now four years old. I was 30 in 2001, so I'm very up close. So something that I want to have is what I have.
Speaker 1I don't want to pay. I don't want to pay, charlie, come on, nothing, nothing, I went.
Speaker 3I have a claim You're a snake.
Speaker 2You have a late invoice.
Speaker 3Really really.
Speaker 2I'm hard.
Speaker 3I'm a party flyer, I drive a car. I take a sticker no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2No, four years, dad.
Speaker 3Four years, I'm like my first task was being cute.
Speaker 2Which I did perfectly. I'm going to show you the back.
Speaker 3That's it cute, which I did perfectly, I'll show you from the back.
Speaker 2I'll send you a post. I like to give you a little bit, but I'll send it.
Speaker 3No, but the fact that I have this experience and knowledge, because I have a knowledge database. When I was walking Wikipedia at this point Turkish I was like, hey, double check, right, I don't have any shame, no one has been knowing it all, but I study Turkish. I was like, hey, double check with him.
Speaker 3But I'm not ashamed of it. No one has been knowing it all. I study Turkish, but you don't know everything. But I always like it. I always open up to new things and anything I don't know I open it up and I have six. Six is something that gives me an advantage of my band, which is very different, and with my perspective and vision of living in different places, of going to know Hopi and other places.
Speaker 1Hopi, hopi. I mean the same thing as of right now. I feel like I'm going to accept everything that is linked to politics and all this good stuff, but let's take it back with it. I'm going to affect like a lot within a live stream of politics, because it's not something like hey, pa like, please go into politics, because you have to deal with the repercussions.
Speaker 1The people will, for me, get put on blast and you have to deal with exactly people with a potato, but you have people with potatoes, so how did that affect your life growing up?
Speaker 3no, it's weird. So how did that affect your life? Growing up, my sister basically didn't go to school. She worked hard. My dad used to bring her mom to the gym, or at night or at night, but I thought my dad had to go to school. My dad finished school so my dad would go to my mom's house to spend time with my dad. So my dad, if you don't want me, there are some meetings right. I'm working with these work bands, so for me it's all normal, it's? I was always there. I was always there. I was always there. I was always there. I was always there. I was always there. I was always there. I was always there. I was always there. I was always there. I was always there. I was always there. I was always there. I was always there. I was always there. I was always there. I was always there. I was always there. I so I don't pay much attention to that.
Speaker 2But I understand that you have obviously studied politics Was it always in your plan to go into politics at some point no.
Speaker 3Seriously, then why?
Speaker 2study politics.
Speaker 3It's such a weird rollercoaster. I mean, everyone is young and has different aspirations.
Speaker 2For sure.
Speaker 3I was a veterinarian, I was a beast. If I met my mom, she would say fada, eat a beast, eat a cow Nobody likes.
Speaker 2At some point, First of all, and then I realized, I didn't know how, at some point, as in como para cuidar, and you know, I have a little guy in the store that just walked around.
Speaker 3I'm the new one actually. Turma hi I don't know how. At some point I was 13 years old, but my aunt, she had one in her house when she went out to the world and I was like, oh, that's cute, I wanted to have another one. And now, your mom Girl, I was like I'm going to be Animal Planet and I was like I'm going to be.
Speaker 2Yeah, like I said, like Girl.
Speaker 3And I was like even little birds were there with me, everything, everything.
Speaker 1Wow, dr Doolittle and.
Speaker 3I was like how can I make a change to maybe become a veterinarian? But now that I've grown up and I'm realizing that I'm going Okay, you stick to animals, though some change. I started with the pre-law mentality. I started with the pre-law mentality, but I realized that when I started studying law, I started with the law. I don't want to stay here.
Speaker 1I want to travel.
Speaker 3I want to know the world, I like languages, so for me, I started with the international. I found another course and I started with international relations. So I became an ambassador for animal rights. And then, going back to when I was in Aruba, school's trajectory wasn't 100% for me. I drove two trips so I was there by evening.
Speaker 2Yeah, for sure, girl by then you didn't drive out for school like no judgements, and then that's the reason they told me not to become a veterinarian.
Speaker 3I wanted the natural science that I had thinking about becoming a veterinarian, but it didn't like me. I bought a package so now now I yeah, since I'm a driver, I change my package. But other things I did and I realized, realized I had a good hobby, and then I told my mom and my dad Stop it, we're going to pay for school, we're going to start working, we're going to pay for school, yes, yes. So what happens next? I don't know. If I don't pay, I won't finish school.
Speaker 1Oh, okay, that's it yeah, yeah, yeah. If I don't pay, I won't.
Speaker 2It's like Girl, Girl.
Speaker 1So now I'm like, yeah, yeah yeah, you're like no, what's going on?
Speaker 3I was like girl, girl finish. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So now I'm a clown doctor. I decided to become a clown doctor.
Speaker 1Oh shit.
Speaker 3And I know there's an eye opening for me. So I work with older adults, I work with people with disabilities. I also work with people in hospitals mayor vos trajá con unos muchos con limitación, discapacidad vos trajá también con muchos en el hospital. Y esa aquí da una perspectiva, like a reality, de que está going out there, como de oh my God, it's eye-opening situations Y, with this in mind, ahora me voy a América, me di, okay, pre-law, maybe this is not it. International relations again, I was in an organization called United Nations of European Union, something like that, where they brought a stamp to make us look like beasts, with no way of making a stamp, or to make us look like minorities, with no way of making a stamp. And taking into consideration que tenía a Ayan aquí de 12 para 20 años, mi tata toda minister Y mi pora Wacky tiene vision plans de un lugar de su mente. Entonces ella hacía esa aquí en realidad Y a mi, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo yo. And he made it happen. Politics can bring change. Politics can do it.
Speaker 1That's their job.
Speaker 3Yeah, exactly, but it doesn't always work that way, and I think that's a beautiful thing. It's like, oh, I can bring change, I can change people's lives going into politics.
Speaker 2It's changing from the inside you know, yes, you can't do much from the outside, so okay, fuck it, I'm not going change some laws forcing it it's better if you know you don't have to wear it.
Speaker 3You don't have to wear it, so I decided no, I'm going to study international relations and I'm looking at. I don't have any classes here, so I don't have any classes in the focus area of Aruba. I study politics in the Caribbean, latin American politics.
Speaker 2So are you learning about American politics? No, can you apply it.
Speaker 3No, no, no. I have the curriculum, I have the flexibility with the company. I don't have it, as opposed to if I go to the Netherlands. You just see it.
Speaker 2you know it's like in the go to the Netherlands. You just see it. Yeah, it's like you debate the law, like, okay, I want to learn about something else.
Speaker 3No, I don't have a list of classes that I've gone to and I don't have any more, so I don't have any more. I don't have to go to the market to get a job. I don't have a need to go there. Yeah, so eventually I want to do politics and that's something that I always have and I want to go through the election to confirm with my dad, to have the courage to go deep into it?
Speaker 2how would you approach to even join politics? What was the first call? You got like oh shit, I'm doing this.
Speaker 3I have so many pictures to send you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, it's about to go down.
Political Career Decision Making
Speaker 3You were that kid, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was still on the podium as a grown woman and I wanted to do it, and Mike was also doing it, and that's when I wanted to go. Now I'm going to the Netherlands and that changes a bit. My mentality is like do I really want to do this? I have a job, I have a career going on. Do I really want to do this? But I'm going to do this. My dad told me that obviously I don't have to actively make a list if I'm not making a list. I'm always his supporter and he's willing to share everything I know about him and about us. So now I told him are you going on the list? And we all had doubts about it. But eventually he said Kiko, I want my political career, I'm going to do it, I'm going to give it a chance. And now he said to me do I want to really take it over? Do I want to do this?
Speaker 1This was going to talk him out, but better. Ah, sali, I thought I thought Sali.
Speaker 3Like no bitch, but better, you gonna do this shit. No, no, mike convinced me a little bit you just wanted to hit him like hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me. I'm going to wear a shirt, to be honest, but I'm really. I want to always, but I still want to go and pull. I understand.
Speaker 2I was wondering it might be a little bit controversial.
Speaker 3For me.
Speaker 2Obviously, you're always around the cast, you're always in politics, You're always around your dad, mike, everybody. Would you expect number 4 to be your number? What number would you say? 4, yes, I would expect that she would be number 4 and if so, if not, why? And also with some people, she would react because she has been a ballerina for a long time. Damn, I've been doing this for like two elections and she comes around and gets number 4. I know it's an iffy subject, but it's questions people want to know.
Speaker 1We asked her like four questions in one.
Speaker 3Yes, let me process. No, I'm joking. No, it's not. I asked for a commission, so I didn't actually take this decision. I didn't ask for a new candidate. I didn't ask for a new candidate. I didn't ask for a new candidate. I didn't ask for a new candidate. I didn't ask for a new candidate. It was never upset. I want to analyze your stuff and set it in place. I feel extremely honored and happy to have a number here For me. It's a number that I want to give to my wife, my rival. I want to put sentimental value into it. It's a beautiful number.
Speaker 1Is it a number for me, or is it a number for me and my wife? What do you?
Speaker 3mean.
Speaker 1Is it a number for me and my wife? It's a number for me and my wife with Volterkos. How so the number I have currently here?
Speaker 3Put number 4. Exactly, my problem is I never get a number for myself, no, but for me.
Speaker 1Micah puts Wendrick number 1. You have to put Schaef by a number higher. No, I have 4. Oh, you stayed Wendrick was 6.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 1Wendrick was 6. Anybody above 6 gets 4.
Speaker 3Okay, okay, okay, if you say it's by a bow, you get one up, correct. No, I'm good.
Speaker 2My.
Speaker 3Thing doesn't change much.
Speaker 1She was like I was good, I was like.
Speaker 2I'm going to talk to you in full equity about what you said, Mike. It was a plan of that it was a plan.
Speaker 3Now it's no filter time.
Speaker 1It was a plan.
Speaker 2It was something time one night before like one night before.
Speaker 3Everyone's like what the fuck just happened? It was like more 30 minutes before. No, there was a lot happening on that day. I didn't have anything to sign on the list. Then I didn't have anything to sign on another list. I was like, how am I going to sign another one? But my number is the same now I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 3And then I was like, yeah, keep it quiet. It's going to be like a big revelation. I was like, how am I going to keep this quiet? How am I going? It's incredible. I've never seen it before. I never expected to walk another number with another one. He's always been the leader. He's been with my dad since 2001. Number three, number four, then number one, number two. I've never walked another path and I never expected to walk another path. When you have a person who's capable and has knowledge of things yes, and he's young and he has composure to be a good leader, but at night he's like, no, I'm going to step down from my number two and go to number six, but there's harmony in the team and now Amy is like you know you can be a leader.
Speaker 3No, I'm not saying there's harmony, but you can always do it. One hand wants a number, the other doesn't want a leader. No, I'm not saying I'm not in harmony, but I always try to reach a number, another number, but I always try to reach a conclusion together. If it's good, if it's good to start a dialogue, it's also good. But if it's a bolter, if it's a 30-minute pass, I'm in shock. I don't know, what's happening.
Speaker 3But I mean, but you know what. It shows who Mike is. It really shows who he is. He is willing to step down and make the youth over, so for me it's also embracing all these youth, making them a stem. You know what he is going to lead the list, but how do you feel that?
Speaker 1he is going to be the leader now, but how do you feel that he's not going to be safe for number two or three?
Speaker 3No, he's not going to be safe. But what I want is too much of moving around. Instead, this moment, my head is on Kiko. He's going to make the youth completely take over. He's ready, he can do this and he's going to win, which for me, is all better, because it's better if you do it in a different way. I like when you're ready, I feel like it's true. It shows that you really have something to do, like it's true.
Speaker 1So for me, it's a great choice, sorry. Sorry, I'm the highest and the light. Light, though. Sorry, you don't have to be honest. I think it was a good PR move, though it was a cute PR move but it was also, but just like it would have been a nice tracker for number one Understandable pretty. Well, y'all should have been voted then.
Speaker 3I know with government the guy you gotta give it some time A mi mes aje sá comi da baire iba lista lea talak un luna pro mec u lista u arra trajá Mi dota tem dos dia pa' kissi mi da binha ruba of no.
Speaker 2Oh, she went with the home children working doing her thing.
Speaker 3A me raia, that's it. That's it. No contacts Nada.
Speaker 2Shit Sent from iPhone. Jachi, do you think?
Speaker 3I was surprised how fast the email was.
Speaker 1I checked the email.
Speaker 3I said, send it to me two or three days after the QQA. But I was like I'll put it up two or three days after I go to Dubai. But I was like what the hell is this?
Speaker 1It was meant for you to see it.
Speaker 3Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So I was like, I was like. I was like I was like I was like. I was like don't quote me on that because I'm not sure what the hell.
Speaker 2I just bought my house like I have a really good job no, no. Are you going to do all of that for this?
Speaker 3Boy, I was senior compliance associate by Amazon.
Speaker 1I've been working for two years at Amazon.
Speaker 3It's a really big company. It's a really good opportunity.
Speaker 2I've been working full time.
Speaker 3I've been doing a lot of work and I thought, oh my God. And I thought, now that the Turkish government is gone, I'm going to make a video call.
Speaker 3and my dad with a mic behind I was like from the parliament from the parliament and I had the mic behind and I was jumping and they told me, hey, the government is coming, get ready. I was like what the hell? How man? So I had to, just by chance, on a day, on a Sunday, on a day, and I had all it's your opportunity to jump in hello you know I study here. You always wanted to do this. It's your opportunity. Jump in bye where are you from?
Speaker 2I'm from.
Speaker 3Colombia, but I lived almost my whole life here. Ok, got it. I don't know where I'm from, but I lived 10 years in Holland, so I'm more Dutch.
Speaker 1He's an international.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, for sure, yes, yes, yes I want to jump into the first segment let's go okay let's do it, let's see, let's see, seriously okay so I'm asking Rata, what is your vision for what? What is your vision for the future of Aruba's economic pillar, tourism, considering the need to avoid over-tourism?
Speaker 3No, my vision for it. Obviously we are not a tourist island, so it's not that close, but I want to focus more on the quality, the quality of our product, Aruba, and the quality of tourists with my island. I want to focus more on Something that I always want to repair because of my mentality is that our culture goes a little back, To return to the American.
Speaker 1A little.
Speaker 3I was like girl what are you talking about?
Speaker 1I want to be a little bit conservative.
Speaker 2No, you're not this is no filter. Say the truth. I thought you were an animal person.
Speaker 3No, no, no, Never in my life, Never I think hello.
Speaker 2never in my life, never I would never do that to their parents, of course.
Speaker 3So let's go back to the quality of tourism. Agree. What's the point. What's the point? What's the point? I like it when people focus more on the conversation.
Speaker 2I agree with conversation in terms of the part of Miami, like if you go around Miami there's so many tall buildings it's so busy. Unless you're on the 50th floor of a tall building, you can't walk unless you're on the 50th floor.
Cultural Revival and Labor Solutions
Speaker 1It's scary, a lot of buildings going up. So, on this, let me ask you what exactly was your plan to make sure that our culture falls back in place?
Speaker 3No, but I'm going to take a little bit of teaching. If you go back, you'll see that there's a lot of history, and not just history with the Netherlands?
Speaker 1Who gives a fuck?
Speaker 3No, the actual history, the roots. I had a little bit of history in school. I was surprised when I didn't have any more history. I was like, yes, of course.
Speaker 1You had a little bit of history, but more history, more history.
Speaker 3So since I was in class I had a little bit of history. I wish I could know more. I know more about the tribes around the Latin American.
Speaker 2I hope it doesn't become like America, where people are like I want reprobation. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3I mean Sí sí sí.
Speaker 2Sí, sí, sí, I mean I understand.
Speaker 3I understand what happened, god, if we had. Pero me esté, pero me esté, pero no todo tiene esclavitud but if there's no history, no es todo esclavitud.
Speaker 1Exactly, it's missing. Paso bajo un corazón, por favor.
Speaker 3They are so proud of their history and I love that.
Speaker 1I love that.
Speaker 3But in Aruba we can't tell a full story we need colors. We need letters. In Aruba. It's colorful Everywhere, but in Waco it's a Caribbean island, in Aruba it's beige.
Speaker 2It's Americanized. It's not black as fuck. It's beige. In Aruba it's a typical. I hope it's Americanized. It's not blank as fuck. Fuck on beige.
Speaker 3Man, if you go and eat a typical Aruba food, where do you go Normally, man?
Speaker 2I always think of Zeruva.
Speaker 3That's.
Speaker 1Caribbean though.
Speaker 3But after saying peanuts of Zeruva, I also think of Bajira.
Speaker 1It's a Old fisherman, I think they say Next to Baki Wahoos. Pica next to Baki Wahoos, pika's Corner. Pika's Corner is also like Biscayfria Baki also, though Baki Wahoos is also very fresh sorry, no, no, I have a friend.
Speaker 3What about you? Wendy's good spot, wendy's, by the way we know that means Wendy's of McDonald's working.
Speaker 1Wendy's okay, good, I have to pass this. Hey working. Wendy's Okay, good, I'll pass it down.
Speaker 3It's safe, not in Wendy's in the Netherlands, right? No, it's not. But I went to the airport and I didn't buy it?
Speaker 2I don't suppose. Anyway, it's a whole legal battle.
Speaker 3Well, yes, for you it's a typical food. You know, I have a kitchen, I have a kitchen, my bike is working everywhere. I love Asian food, I love to walk, but I love Portugal. Portugal is a very nice tourist destination and Portuguese is lit. I'm learning Portuguese.
Speaker 2This is my fifth language by the way, you better fucking clock in how many languages. Five, five.
Speaker 3If I'm going to walk anime without subtitles, I'm going to bring anime without subtitles. I'm working on Japanese.
Speaker 2Let's go.
Speaker 3Let me show you that I have two tattoos. This is one of them, let's go back.
Speaker 2What's up there?
Speaker 3Oh Sanji.
Speaker 2Man, don't team me, man, we're going to have a conversation.
Speaker 3I won't be like shit.
Speaker 1Okay, nerds, go crazy, I'm not mad, I told you I'm a nerd, I'm not mad like I love it, I'm not mad, I love it, I'm not mad, I'm not mad, I'm not mad, I'm not mad.
Speaker 3I'm not mad.
Speaker 2I'm not mad, I'm not mad, I'm not mad.
Speaker 3I'm not mad, I'm talking about.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm one of those people. No, lately.
Speaker 3I've been watching One Piece.
Speaker 2Good, of course yes.
Speaker 3Culture yes, no.
Speaker 2What you and I are going, no, no.
Speaker 3Seriously, let's go Shark. You don't get it.
Speaker 2That's hardcore culture guys.
Speaker 1No I get it.
Speaker 3I get your point. Hey, now you're talking to me like I'm Gohan. Now you're talking to me like I'm Awesome. Now you're talking to me like I'm Judge Nothing look, judge Shark.
Speaker 1Judge away, baby Fucking bitch. I'm going to judge y'all back. I'm judging y'all right now, like this this type of conversation.
Speaker 3is culture Like? You know we relate to each other based on this Look, man, we're more working in between the islands. Corso Bonero how is it that it's so expensive to buy Corso? We're right there.
Speaker 1And other Caribbean islands. It's crazy you can buy Miami and then, or Panama and then.
Speaker 3Yes, yes, man, our development man Corso, now that, sadly, man, in our development man, we started, now that, sadly, the project didn't go as well as it did before the last seven years, nine and a half. So we started a takeover and now we're developing. But if we're all working together, we can develop together. So I feel like we're starting to go back, our culture is starting to go back, our parents are going back, but now obviously our. Of course I'm going to have to get up.
Speaker 1Yeah, no, baby, sorry, you lost me right there.
Speaker 2Oh my God. Mapa next question. Yes, mapa next question. I'm a politician, I can talk, let's go, let's go, okay, by the way, we will cut you off a few times.
Speaker 3Next one.
Speaker 1Okay, we want to hear it. Okay, so how would your government help solve the labor shortage that exists in all economic sectors?
Speaker 3Well, there are a couple of ways we can do that. A graying population here. I hope people are going to get a pension, but I hope people here still can work. They are willing to work. What we are doing is that we are feeling that our salary is being heavily taxed and that is better for us to receive our pension. So if you make a cut in taxation so that we can get the labor market back, that is for the help of the parties. We have a cut in taxation to help the labor market back and that's why we have a big workforce to maintain.
Speaker 3And another workforce obviously is the people who are here, who are teaching us young people who are creating lessons in the area of a hotel, a school, to come back, because we have a hotel in the area, a hotel-vac school, and we have to come back. And we have to come back because we have to go to the place where we have to work. Sadly, in one way or another, we have to import Workforce, yes, workforce. We have to come back in one way or another. Exactly, we have to be more responsible. We have to open doors to the people who rent. I'm coming from the outside in one way or another, and I take it out of the guard in a more responsible way. When they say open the door, they'll open it in 30 minutes.
Speaker 2But then how about? Like probably any friend, of political mentioned like 17,000 illegal immigrants working in Aruba, undocumented. Why not vet them? And then kind of like figure out, oh you actually have great skills. Like give them, like Of course.
Speaker 3Of course. I mean that should have been done a long time ago. No, it's true.
Speaker 2It should have been done, because you hear that he started and that takes a. But at the same time, these people get sick and they go to the hospital, hire free treatment because it's a human thing to do. So my tax money is going somewhere to pay for someone who's not registered and who's not paying his fair share, but I am and I have to finally get fucking health care but they're already here but I don't know how to do it, but I don't know how to do it.
Speaker 3You're doing it in a responsible way, but I'm in the department and I'm doing it behind my back. I'm listening to horror of horror stories. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want a proper education, not only for workers, but also for customer service. I want customer service in Abismal. But okay, going back to what I said, I have to be responsible in a way. We have a great community that we have established. We have cousins, relatives, family that we have established.
Speaker 2What do you do If you sit down at the table?
Speaker 3and say Right, exactly.
Speaker 2You don't want to bring someone whose skills we have like 20 of them already here on the island.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's on the island.
Speaker 3Saudi, like they're already here. They know their people no-transcript with what housing is, so I know how to take care of my family.
Speaker 1You know our yes, yes. So I don't know if I can vote for you, but what I want, to Okay, clear, yeah, shake, shake, shake shake.
Speaker 1We have to. We have to. Okay, let's go. No, no, Stay there and calm down. But what I want to mention is that it doesn't take a pension to get longer. I'm thinking about it. You don't want to eventually create a social problem with a word. I don't know if you can see it, but grandparents don't really exist anymore. It's a pride that doesn't exist in a way that you can see this, but grandparents don't really exist anymore. Like I'm proud of our thing, like, oh, I'm going to go to my house, I'm going to go to school, I'm going to go to my interview. The grandparents of Awoki, they're still working. The parents of Awoki, they don't have a family, a family of their own. That aspect, it's really missing hard in our society, of a family member who doesn't want to, you know yes yes, yes, that aspect, it's really missing in society and I hope you'll find it without love.
Speaker 3I mean, I have one grandmother, my other grandmother and my second grandmother passed away, so I don't really have a mother, but I do know that. I hope she's not forced, but I also know that it it's very high. Sadly, we don't have a reality where we can force 13 more people to enter the house. It's huge. We have a lot of people lost. It's a shame, but it's a reality that we have to work on it and we have to work on it to actually solve this issue, which I was told. If we don't lower the taxes on people who are older than 65, we're going to give them a breather. They end up working If they have to. They're already working, but they give you more space to work a little. In the Netherlands there's a law called Hoppiluk. It's a law that reduces the hours for people who are over 65 years old, but they like to encourage people who are person is fit for work. They still do it for work.
Speaker 3You work so many years for food. Just imagine you work so many years for food. You go to the house, you don't have colleagues, nothing anymore. What is that going to do to your psyche? It's work for your mental health and that creates problems. Eventually you're saturated. It creates a problem. Eventually it's saturated. It's bad for us. It's bad Enzyme hate, which is loneliness. It's a very powerful Factor that's affecting Now that we're older.
Speaker 1I get what you're saying, but at the same time, if again I started thinking, it still falls under A social problem. If these people Finally go on pension, as much as they would like to make this money, they're doing it, but if they don't have the opportunity to work, they can't get a salary and they can't go to the beach.
Speaker 1There's other social activities and grandkids come over. Grandkids are in school. So now, like for having some type of activity during the day, during the day, there's none of that, of course. If you say nothing, doing nothing mentally, you go behind the scenes. It shows it really shows.
Speaker 2But if there's something to do like a daycare center, like a exactly.
Speaker 3I mean I bought my house in the Netherlands in a place called Bake. It's like a Nigga damn no, but exactly Wack. I mean I bought my house in the Netherlands in a place called Beek. The place is like a pension dorm. It's a small town where basically all people are retiring. I mean, not only are people in school, but also people in my family are younger than me. So I put my parents didn't mind me abandoning. So politics follows me everywhere. Politics follows me everywhere. Politics follows me everywhere. And we have a lot of programs that we have established for the grown-ups. It's just amazing. They're everywhere, they're active, they're busy, but we don't have babies in a neighborhood center and we have to organize breakfasts. So if you pay something, small babies are 5 euros, 10 euros. But if you pay and you have them for breakfast on the weekends together, exactly, it does, it does.
Speaker 1But just imagine if you're in construction and you have to pay your pension. You have to pay your pension and you're still alone?
Speaker 3No, but I'm thinking, if I pay my pension too, I mean at some point it's a problem At some point.
Speaker 1it's not like. I would love to feel and enjoy what we are doing Exactly. I don't know.
Speaker 3I don't know what to think. I expect a monetary thing that we plan and we prioritize. But addressing the issue, the loneliness, the sense of being part of something, is something big that is affecting us. But the movement is something that is sitting in a room with people. It's a day, it's not a life. It's not a life of being active but of construction work. But what does it do to your body? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1You turn bad but I think you turn bad you take a medicine.
Speaker 3You know you turn bad. You take a medicine, you take a medicine, you take a medicine, you take a medicine, you take a medicine you take a medicine, you take a medicine. You take a medicine. You take a medicine. You take a medicine. Slap it harder.
Speaker 2She spares, she spares. Let's switch up the conversation a little bit. Okay, let's go. I'm reading it. I want to get to this in a bit.
Speaker 3Yes, but first.
Speaker 2I want to talk about.
Teamwork and Political Motivation
Speaker 3I bring goodies. Is this for us? No, it's for them, it's my homework.
Speaker 1He's the one who fuck you. He's the one who fuck you he's the one who fuck you.
Speaker 2He's the one who fuck you. He's the one who fuck you. He's the one who fuck you.
Speaker 3He's the I don't know. I want this line, but I can't stop.
Speaker 2No true, true, true.
Speaker 3I want this line, but I can't stop. This is really.
Speaker 1Oh, my God but to answer your question.
Speaker 2I have a question for you. Many voters are curious about your motivation for entering politics. I feel like I'm going to overstate how to do it. I feel like you're explaining how you got into the company, but you're also in the company. You're in the AVP. To kind of like, want to rescue you, to vote for you to stay in the AVP. What is your opinion about the opinion of the people?
Speaker 3Well, I don't want the people to say that they're going to vote for me. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to do what I want you just met.
Speaker 1He's a jackass.
Speaker 3I love it. So I had a bigger connection with the demographic of my father's vote. I also grew up in an area where my father was very close to me, so I was able to relate more to the people who voted for my father. And when I was there, I saw that the campaign was led by a team, a tremendous team, and I was able to tell them that the team I was in was not just a team a tremendous team, and it's like it's a team of my dad, a team of my mom, a team of my dad, a team of my dad and my mom and my mom and my mom and my mom and my mom and my mom and my mom and my mom and my mom and my mom and my mom and my mom.
Speaker 1I was about to say what are the keys to see?
Speaker 2They came for you. They came for you no.
Speaker 3Me, not about the wall to say Mike, but was I a hand dish? He was a Mike. But you're all people.
Speaker 2What did you say? Say it like this. What did you say? No, I was going to say flat six. I was going to say flat six. That's good, but hey, crazy.
Speaker 3I look good in yellow, but no, thank you, no, but I want to say that again. It's a situation I'm in a combination of putting hands in the way I do the mic at the table is a thing that I do in my campaign. It's a guide, it's and the person here is not focused on this, this, this. He explains to me how it is. Now, when I talk about a topic, he tells me hey, by the way, don't know how to do this, this, this. I'm going to do this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this this he's a teacher.
Speaker 2He's very chill. He's very chill. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes.
Speaker 2Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I'll say it for you. I got you, I got you, it's interesting.
Speaker 3And another way if my wife is good, I say good.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3That's it. But it's not like I'm just kidding, it's not like come on, I know you're amazing, but you have to congratulate me, You're good. And then finally, hey I feel like on cloud nine, on cloud nine, this damn man no kidding, no kidding good job, now for the other one finally.
Speaker 1so in place? We all know like a tainted kind of reputation this in place while you're, if like a tainted kind of reputation. So what plan do you have in place to make sure that it doesn't happen while you're? No, I don't know If it ends up. No, the way.
Speaker 3I see it, I'm going to stop with my father's innocence. That is the only reason why I'm going to start a campaign of seven months and I'm pregnant, I'm not going to stay in heat. I was seven and a half months pregnant back then. Horrible, you love that man. The feelings, the hormones. It was horrible. It was horrible. I don't know if you can tell me in detail.
Speaker 2We'll bring you back baby. You said it on camera.
Speaker 1So, We'll bring you back. No, no, we'll do it in half.
Speaker 3Let's do it in two, cool 100%.
Speaker 1We'll do it in half. We'll do it in half. We'll do it in half. We'll do it in half. We'll do it in half. We'll do it in half. We'll do it in half. We'll do it in half.
Speaker 2We'll do it in half, we'll do. I'm going to tell you something, and I'm going to tell you something.
Speaker 3Yes, when I go from house to house, I always have an insight. I don't know why I don't have a drug, but I'm going to tell you that's basically a combo, that.
Speaker 1I make sure that what happens to you doesn't happen to you.
Speaker 3No, no no, yes, okay, it doesn't happen to me. I'm always, I've always imitated his innocence and I know what happens to him. He's a really good politician and one way or another, he's an attack. He's an attack on the judicial system. How do you know that's not going to happen to me? I'm not sure, because who knows if I'm not going to be a really good politician and if I'm going to be a hit and run politician never, never in my life. A lot of politicians say that.
Speaker 2Like in the sense of giving politics to help other people, so whatever they have. Before I was making way more money than doing what I'm doing right now. But it is, it is, but they got different benefits once they go in True.
Speaker 1True, got a driver and everything.
Speaker 3No, but he coined it to bring a peyote she is like don't try to lie to me with that bullshit. No, a minister with a parliamentarian doesn't earn a lot of money. Something bring it to power who signs here? But that's not what I'm trying to educate. Sorry, but if I educate and I get another job, I want another job to do more.
Speaker 1So let me ask you this Are you a turbo education? How did you get to go up a traditional party that existed and not try something completely fresh that they give you I don't have to worry with potato and this, and that you could have easily cut all of that out there?
Speaker 3are a variety of reasons why that happens. One is teamwork. For me, it's very important to be part of a team and unfortunately I don't feel that way about other games. I feel that there's a person in my head who's a strong leader, and there's a lot of people in my head so I don't strong leader and he's a very good person, so you have to have teamwork. And another thing is education. What do you want? It was very much. We are very. No, we're a team girl we're a team girl we're a team.
Speaker 2What makes you say that?
Speaker 1sorry. You can clearly tell that this election was last minute. And what does the AFP say? Almost all the parties are full. Okay, let's vote. Come on, stop Number six. Let's go.
Speaker 2I think it's something I said a few episodes ago.
Speaker 1You have confidentials, like really no way, not the whole ass, baby, don't do that what Everyone has something to bring to the table. Everyone I mean to say that legit they're going to bring an extra vote to make sure that the party is right. That's the job.
Political Vision and Teamwork Dynamics
Speaker 3You are evil, I. They're going to bring an extra vote to make sure that the party is right, that's the job. You are evil, I'm saying the truth.
Speaker 1I'm not a bullshitter, baby. I say what I mean. I'm not a bullshitter. I'm not a bullshitter, I'm not a bullshitter.
Speaker 3I'm not a bullshitter. I'm not a bullshitter, I'm not a bullsh. All I can't imagine spending the whole day with them.
Speaker 1I don't like your time. I'm going to send you. Stop what I'm going to send you.
Speaker 2I don't like your time.
Speaker 1Don't get it twisted. Dude, what the fuck.
Speaker 3No, but we have a job to do. But you know, we have a harmony. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, but Un colega, tu colega. Un colega tu colega.
Speaker 2Un colega tu colega Un colega tu colega. Un colega tu colega. Un colega tu colega. Un colega tu colega.
Speaker 3Un colega tu colega, un colega tu colega, un colega tu colega. Un colega tu colega. Un colega tu colega.
Speaker 1Un colega, tu colega. Un colega tu colega. Un colega tu colega, un colega tu colega. Understandable.
Speaker 3She has a name, she has a thing she will come with the votes to put me in the parliament. So the number one eventually does not go to 30, so Porta is number two.
Speaker 1Does it happen that other people top 10 if they get there? No, oh girls, Stop For real. Hey, you're half way to Girl stop.
Speaker 3Be for real.
Speaker 1Okay, and he's in there, girl but stop, stop pretending You're not here to fuck. You're fucking Ben. He's the banger. Mike makes a bank number Kiko 30, walking up to 29.
Speaker 2He's fucking Mike Iman. He's still going to get more votes than anybody else on the list at the end of the day.
Speaker 1What?
Speaker 2are you talking?
Speaker 3about Be for real, but I feel like you have to work for it.
Speaker 3You do and we're basically the same From the beginning to the end. Everyone is on the streets, Everyone is working for it. But going back to how you talk about AVP and everything else and talk to other people, but again, it's a career, it's a project that I have, a project that I have an investment and a vision. For me, it's inspiring that we're fully self-sustainable in 2020. For me, it's a clear example of what vision and perspective is. So in 2020, I want to have a completely self-sustainable country. We're going to get there In another way. We're going to start being self-sustainable and we're going to get there Whenever it happens.
Speaker 3Exactly, I'm going to make sure that I'm doing everything I can to get there. So, for me, exactly, we have perspective, we have vision and when you have an institute in the place, like a RAC, like a Fundo, mito Cruz, when you have youth and people of the people, not precisely of politics, what politics is there? What government is there? It's not like that. It's really an educational platform. For me, exactly, it's very important. It's a party with almost 100 years of age and I know more than when did you say your birthday?
Speaker 1When did you say your birthday Almost 100. Almost 100? Yes, but he plays too much. The reason why I asked was, like I'm 27.
Speaker 3I take everything out of my bag and I'm like.
Speaker 2No, it's Big party Like 100 years of this institution Celebrating.
Speaker 1Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3Make sure you don't invite us.
Speaker 2No, no, no, come on, come on If you want, we can invite you. What Come? On come on, come on, don't do it.
Speaker 1Don't take me with a good time.
Speaker 3You're a host, we're going to go. You can't promise me that Mike won't kill me. You had a good time. It's more. You're a host.
Speaker 2We're going to go, but I promised Mike he wouldn't kill me. No, don't worry, I'm not a host, and if you're in the government you'll get a 400% increase.
Speaker 1Oh what? No, You're doing fraud, no.
Speaker 3It's taxpayer's money that I pay myself back, hey at least the.
Speaker 1AdMob right that.
Speaker 2Yo say what Club? That bucket? Brr-da-da-da, that's fire. Don't be like, I'm on Facebook, I'm on your hand. Sorry, dude, look at me and this person is like I'm on Facebook, I'm on your hand. What's your job?
Speaker 3I am loving it.
Speaker 1I don't know if you can share or comment, but I want my life oh he was going in. They were going in.
Speaker 3I know. I know I love every second of it.
Speaker 1Apparently, a lot of people don't like this nigga, but some people, he's just there.
Speaker 3He's being paid for to go on Facebook and he's bashed to hand it. No tranquilo, there's really no filter.
Speaker 1This is what it is.
Speaker 3Mucha mangua, there's really no filter. This is what it is, you understand Gotta, be realistic, yeah, banco with a realistic answer. Be for real. So whack me the possibility. Obviously it's not working out, it's not functioning. But again, teamwork is primordial. And if you put your head on the party with a big head, with a mentality of no, the party is big with a big head, which we see. But who walks into a business deal demanding terms? Wait what I heard?
Speaker 2that I for sure I go and listen first.
Speaker 3I listen to what they're going to say Exactly. You have to have some type of dialogue.
Speaker 2She's saying like you want me to do it for the first time, here's my deal. I'm like bitch, we didn't even have a conversation. In this case, it's a different type of.
Speaker 1It's not a regular job, it's like no.
Speaker 3But we're talking about, like governing a whole country, exactly, and you're not talking about more than 100,000 people, exactly.
Speaker 1That's what they fought for. That's what we get.
Speaker 2But I'm saying we don't care If you're Aveline.
Speaker 1Or if you're Mike.
Speaker 2Somehow. I'm very cool with that, but it doesn't matter. I'm looking cool with that, but it doesn't matter. I'm looking forward to that. Are we talking?
Speaker 3you're not going to see Evelina yet no, she's coming up.
Speaker 2I'm looking forward to that one too sorry people watch the show because of who we are. We're honest. We're just seeing what people think and people will watch the show because of who we are and it's not honest. And it's not just what people think. And if you what people don't think and Shark Day is similar If you don't know someone, you're not an example of someone who's from a foreign country.
Speaker 3No, you have to know someone. Again, this goes back to Chinese philosophy.
Speaker 1You have to know someone. That's why this is the human chair, because now we know a whole different side of stuff.
Speaker 3Like when a person relates to them when they don't feel pain. I know politicians don't do this at home. Sorry, but I don't feel like I relate to people like that Because you're out there. But I have to listen to what people think, what people are going through. I'm not going to hear you're out there Because you're out there, I'm not going to hear you give me calls. I don't have six you. I don't have a single mom living in Baystown who says you can't coin a six you.
Speaker 1No, but it is a reality.
Speaker 2No, but it's not their fault.
Speaker 3Our society has pushed it towards that, but she doesn't come down. But it's her fault. It's not their fault. Our society has pushed it towards that. It wasn't their fault. It wasn't their fault. I believe it wasn't their fault. The education system puts us in our place.
Speaker 1Busting it wide open, bust down Tatiana it wasn't their fault.
Speaker 2I'm pregnant. I don't know how it happened. Yeah, like.
Speaker 3It was the vodka, okay. No, the education system. It's not their fault. Okay, what the fuck you?
Speaker 1be doing. Thank you, god. Yeah, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but but.
Speaker 3But, but, but. If you create 500 flowers for each person, no, no, let me stop.
Speaker 1Let me stop. No-transcript.
Speaker 3Let me stop, let me I've been saying this floor and darken the zinc, but then people say oh no, that's only like in Colombia, after world countries, no this is why I'm not critical about people, because politicians don't get sick every few years. We actually see this on a daily basis but I think, how do you want to imitate a politician without because he comes out of rancho?
Speaker 1Rancho, rancho, rancho.
Speaker 3Rancho, rancho.
Speaker 1Rancho.
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Speaker 2Rancho.
Speaker 3Rancho Star Island. Again we have a thriving tourism Billions no-transcript.
Speaker 2What am I specifically saying? It was English, I'm going to go to the Amazon.
Speaker 3I'm going to go to the Amazon in.
Speaker 2English Do shit. That's good, that's good. I can't, I'm going to go to the Amazon.
Speaker 3I'm going to go to the Amazon. I'm going to go to the.
Speaker 2Amazon.
Speaker 1So let me ask you this we have to go to another segment, right? No, no, have you looked at the time? Oh shit, can you extend? It, it's okay, fuck it Like. I'll just take a warning if I have to get one, I'm sorry guys, it's it.
Speaker 2It's okay, fuck it Like.
Speaker 1I'll just take a warning if I have to get one. I'm sorry, guys, it's whatever. It's whatever, I'm sorry, no, no no, you're good baby.
Speaker 2I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1Okay. So Fuck, I'm sorry, oh, no, sorry, okay. So so I woke up to lose confidence in AVP, so I can't talk about the other party. But I woke up to say no, no, no, no. I woke up to lose confidence in AVP and I was like okay, yo, where has AVP been like throughout the season here? But AVP always was known as a party of people, like that was always what it was known for, and it was a crucial time during the pandemic when people were like yo, people need you. Where the fuck is AVP? So even after this, I feel like the last few like very much silent. No way he doesn't pop up. Now what?
Speaker 3Girl, then we have to get you under that rock. But no, but no On the day of the election the election starts and we stop, but on the day of the election the AFP always doesn't have employees, because the party helps people and it's a plastic ballast. It's always like you. I say always, like all year round.
Speaker 1Where is this promoted, though?
Speaker 3On our page, Girl On our page. Radio we're always around.
Speaker 2Boost the call, boost the post Working people.
Speaker 1That is my problem with the government in general. We are working citizens giving y'all our money, but they were once upon a time, after a full day of work, I was like I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3I don't know. Then, how do you want to know if you want to listen to the radio, if you want to read the news?
Speaker 1Girl. We're all on socials. Why is it not there? It's a new age.
Speaker 3I want a young generation to make sure that we're really blessed on socials Somebody.
Speaker 2Yes, 100%, but so how are we going Into innovation?
Speaker 3We're gonna do that.
Speaker 1Old school media.
Speaker 3It's new age. We are transitioning.
Speaker 2I got a few more questions.
Speaker 1Go ahead.
Speaker 2So keep them with stance on what's the pro of Legalization Of cannabis. You are In, so I'm In.
Speaker 3I don't have A party, damn. Why not Personally. I don't have A party Contra. I'm not a Christian Democrat.
Speaker 2I don't have Values.
Speaker 3I don't have Turkish, so for me I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2I don't know, I don't dare. Yet you know the idea. If you want to learn how to swim, toss the fucking thing in the pool, like how did we ever learn? Ppa.
Speaker 3PPA, let's not go there.
Speaker 2I know, but listen, the thing is like.
Speaker 3No, no. But I thought, but why not educate these old motherfuckers?
Speaker 1on it as well. That's a crucial point.
Speaker 3I think we use education as a tool.
Speaker 1But what do you mean by start with me Are?
Speaker 3we there. Yet I thought, if I start with education for the day, Girl.
Speaker 1They've been saying we'll start from since five years ago I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't. Yeah, he said it, he said it.
Speaker 3My man, it was your fight, I know.
Speaker 1Where's those fundings coming from?
Speaker 2Welcome to the conversation. Damn, we're not talking about the topic of the day. We're not talking about the topic of the day. We're not talking about the topic of the day.
Speaker 3We're not talking about the topic of the day. It's fascinating. It is. It's fascinating. We're not talking about the topic of the day.
Vision for Cultural Revival and Sustainability
Speaker 2We're not talking about the topic of the day, the agent is.
Speaker 3He's pushing it real hard. He's pushing it real hard.
Speaker 2He's pushing it real hard.
Speaker 3He's pushing it real hard. He's pushing it real hard. He's pushing it real hard, he's pushing it real hard.
Speaker 2He's pushing it real hard, he's pushing it real hard.
Speaker 3He's pushing it real hard. He's pushing it real hard. He's pushing it real hard. He's pushing it real hard. He's pushing it real hard. He's pushing it real hard. He's pushing it real hard. Knowledge economy is something that AVP tries to push over time, but in which it explains sustainability. We don't have alternatives, we don't have a system that starts pushing more, but it's there. It's there.
Speaker 1We ain't pushing hard enough. Okay, let's go next one. Sorry, sorry.
Speaker 2What's your plan?
Speaker 3Okay, let's dive into this this is my homework, but it's been three years. It would be wrong If I don't.
Speaker 1This is my homework, okay, so what is this First one?
Speaker 3Okay, so what is this in the government to buy?
Speaker 2and there are reports on them, so we plan to stop them in seven and a half years but they're not outdated as in like, oh shit, it's past its time. Obviously we have to revise them, but the vision is ahead of its time, so we have to revise them.
Speaker 3and what's behind? We have to obviously update them, but you know, it's a 2020 vision that I'm talking about, dj, obviously For sure.
Speaker 1That's fucking needed.
Speaker 2It was in the works. We did this like three days ago.
Speaker 3It was in the works. It wasn't the works and it was like laid out completely. But you know, ego plays a role.
Speaker 1This is the same way, though like this is a 2020 vision.
Speaker 3And these moves Are the urban designs that we have, like a vision that we have, and this is what's going to happen.
Speaker 1To Okay, so what's the plan For the party that will happen To Nicolas? Let me hear this shit. Well, you're looking at it.
Speaker 2I don't want to hear it From you. I don't want to hear it From you, I mean Obviously I want to hear it from you? I want to hear it from you, but I have to be a high-spirited no I mean, obviously we want to retake again what we know about San Nicolás.
Speaker 3I want to know what San Nicolás is like as a cultural center Damn right.
Speaker 2But the thing is, you're going too far when it comes to developing it, but wait it's a feeling game For damn right.
Speaker 3So that's the job of a government. You have your people at the table. You have your people, you have your vision. Do you agree with it? I guess?
Speaker 1one of the biggest problems with TIN is that Nobody's doing shit forever. I love it a lot, no, but come on.
Speaker 3AVP no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3No, no, no. Or in Carnival Village? Our father is from Iguana. Carnival Village is not clear. But because they didn't keep going with it, the foundation was laid out. But I'm telling you it was a good thing for St Nicholas. It was in the making. It was a wall. It came from a vision that Mike Tata had when he met Wynwood. He actually brought the person from Wynwood here.
Speaker 2When was this? No, he actually brought the person from Wynwood here.
Speaker 3When was this Nah?
Speaker 2I was reading, I was listening to Wynwood and I'm back in the conversation. No, no, no.
Speaker 3So back then Wynwood was actually I love Wynwood, everybody knows Wynwood by now but Wynwood was actually a dangerous neighborhood and the person here had a vision to make a hop, to call a kind a target audience. So he does this here. He uses culture as a magnet to bring an audience in. So he brings in young artists to paint the walls, he buys the building and he revitalizes this whole place into his vision. Mike knows the person here. He's the one who revitalized completely in Wynwood. He's the third one. When I showed him San Nicolas he said I want to do that here, like I want to bring San Nicolas culture and like put it on the walls. We want to do that and that's why we have that now Exactly A plan with the government and time is Otmar.
Speaker 1Otmar is campaigning to make it harder, but Otmar is also from AVP.
Speaker 3It's a vision of AVP, not Otmar, of course, of the party. With Otmar, it pulls hard, of course, because the water is working and it is working. It's something that is obviously successful and I want to recognize that the team is here and will go further, without affecting, obviously, the culture that we have established, without affecting the demographic. But is this a plan that Otmar has come up with? No, is this a plan that AVP has come up with?
Speaker 1I want to empathize with you. Let me just get this shit up real quick.
Speaker 3No, it's not Otmar's plan, it's a party plan. It's not my business, otmar Sussó, it's a plan of the party. It's not like my father and my grandmother had a plan of the way that Sussó did. I had the idea that this was the minister in charge. Of course, sorry. Of course it gives him a little bit of credit, but it's not like a man who it was just one man job. I think it's empty promises in some sort.
Speaker 1I feel like everybody says they're going to do something, but they didn't, but they didn't, but, they didn't, but, they didn't, but they didn't, but they didn't, but they didn't, but, they didn't, but, they didn't, but, they didn't, but they didn't.
Speaker 1But they didn't, but they didn't, but they didn't, but they didn. Even Mike De Mesa even said he was like it's not easy, it's not easy, it's not easy, it's not easy, it's not easy, it's not easy, it's not easy, it's not easy, it's not easy, it's not easy, it's not easy, it's not easy, it's not easy, it's not easy, it's not easy.
Political Discussion and Campaign Insights
Speaker 3It's not easy.
Speaker 1I'm a little more a rebel representative, but I'm thinking about the reality of it. I woke up and I said something like whoever does it, I'm happy with what they did, but with San Nicolas, your income is going to be okay.
Speaker 3you don't have to have a person who can. I'm going to go to Green Corridor. I'm going to think about something big for San Nicolas. I'm traffic forever to like reach one spot to the other. It's not like you're going to connect with Nicolas in the north of Aruba where you can get to him. You can get to him directly, on a straight line. You're going to keep Nicolas in mind. So, if not, we're not going to have a project like that.
Speaker 1Let me tell you it's not traffic, but it's not going to be Nicolas, it's obviously more expensive there, but it's a plan.
Speaker 3If you don't like the hotel industry in the north, trust me it's not good. If you don't like it, you're not a green card.
Speaker 1I used to work. Hello, every day, every day.
Speaker 3Do you even remember the days before?
Speaker 1this road. Bye Mita, bye, cool of seeing. Bye Mita, bye.
Speaker 2All right, we're going to come to an end, okay.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 2No no, I like this conversation and we're going to hold you.
Speaker 1It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2It's okay.
Speaker 1It's okay, stop.
Speaker 2Release your. You're not who you are, but anyways, this is Holden Bobcant. Well, this is part of the. Well, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, okay, so Very much avoiding media. And interviews and all these type of things.
Speaker 3That's what I'm saying. I'm just saying what the people said.
Speaker 1So what is your take on this? A lot of people feel like you're kind of like avoiding and it's like not working out.
Speaker 3No, no, no. I know the topic of my talk and I'm very comfortable talking about that. I want to know where there is a more comfortable food to drink. I don't avoid media, I'm a player, so I don't know. We have a short-term memory thing going on. No-transcript, I know. Do you even remember what I said back then? No, I do.
Speaker 1I hold everybody accountable. I have to remember shit.
Speaker 3Exactly, you gotta play it smart.
Speaker 1It's politics I'm not mad at that, though it's politics, you have people wondering, so I wanted to ask you.
Speaker 3I have an interview, so you have people wondering what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what.
Speaker 1What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what what.
Speaker 3What.
Speaker 2What, what, what, what, what, what, what you know I get it.
Speaker 1She didn't say that.
Speaker 2No, stephanie is Stephanie. She thinks Stephanie is Stephanie and Benny.
Speaker 3No, Stephanie has another perspective. Stephanie is the clash when she's with Benny.
Speaker 2Stephanie is your daughter.
Speaker 3Just say it officially.
Speaker 1Please. I'm the Stephanie.
Speaker 3And I approve this message. So, I'm like this you better plug yourself. At this point. I love it.
Speaker 2I'm half Bonar, this show too.
Speaker 3No, I mean at this point you know being being realistically. I don't want you to have nothing more like a basic mask to clean it up, I agree. So the ruins do not work, it's just, it's the best food to rust it?
Speaker 2it's no, but.
Speaker 3I just clean it up and then it's not contaminated. It's. It's a long-term process.
Speaker 2I agree it's not gonna happen and then Mike said this, but Demesa said the same thing it ain't gonna happen, it's not gonna take a long time, but Mike Demesa knows this.
Speaker 3I know that's why it's your stuff, so I asked him about.
Speaker 2I mean, I remember, I remember a man, richard Branson who he installed. I thought it was cool, but it's just. I never saw it again. I thought it was cool, but I never saw it again. The message reminded me yeah, it's still there. It's somewhere behind Lago Heights or some shit.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm pro for it. Communism in the back there, oh yeah.
Speaker 2I will actually do it. What do you think If you're in?
Speaker 1the government.
Speaker 2The VP is going to take your seat. What?
Speaker 3wallet, do you want? It's not something like focusing too much on Jefferson.
Speaker 2Again, it's a parliamentary election.
Speaker 3I know, I know, but still.
Speaker 2Let me rephrase the question. If you had the opportunity to choose a portfolio, what would you say to your team?
Speaker 3I study politics so I feel like I have the capacity to do it At the end. It's a managerial job. It is, but you're a manager. You don't have to be a doctor to handle health. You're a manager. You don't need to be a doctor to handle health. But what do I have to give to my heart to teach social If I don't get to that integration? I have to endure Labor. I can do Tourism too.
Speaker 2It's about surrounding yourself with the right team.
Speaker 3We're a complete team, we're a tour Tour, we're candidates, we sit at the table and we're told okay. Thank you for being on the show. Thank you for having me 100%.
Speaker 1I was like damn.
Speaker 2I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. What do you think about the team that voted for Stephanie Zivina?
Speaker 3Well, I think it's going to be nice, you are surprisingly nerdy you like anime, so that's something to watch.
Speaker 3Anime look. No, I feel like I'm a professional young person who's going to win for my country. I think it's going to be an easy, light decision, with a lot of effort, and I'm part of a team that is really willing to work. We have our priorities straight, our visions straight and I'm going to push myself. If there's something that I have, or if I have focus on one path, I will give it my best and my all to reach that. And I'm listening to what they're saying. I'm everywhere In the inbox, my phone, my phone. I was actually answering calls from people because I was in a car. I was in a car, thank you. Yes, you don't bring a representative of the people if you don't enter the people, if you don't listen to the people, and that's what I like about Stephanie I'm a friend, I'm willing to listen to people. You don't listen to people, and that's what I like about Stephanie she's a friend, she's willing to listen to people.
Speaker 3I don't know my dad. I don't know my dad never. I don't know him. He's my door, never and never. So it's something that it runs in the family. We're nice like that. We don't know. Being the. I'm from a lot of people. I relate to a lot of people. I relate to my struggle. I work here paying a lot of money. I'm very lucky when I relate to that. I want a fresh perspective. I have the capacity to go to the island and I want to go to the island. I'm three years old. I want to make sure that I'm alive in a decent place to live in. I'm giving my all Not only me, but everyone's children. They have to have a nice place to live in. I want to live in a place where I can have my culture, my island, my beach, my amazing. So I have an opportunity. That's my main reason.
Speaker 2This is like a mother feels you so? Yes, please vote Stephanie, number four on the list of green on December 6th special special, special, special, special, special, special, special, special, special, special, special, special, special, special, special special effects, special effects, guys, special effects. I don't have an audience at all.
Speaker 1I was like whoa, this is the first we've never gotten this, let alone.
Speaker 2Alright, thank you for being on the show guys.
Speaker 3Thank you so much pleasure to meet you guys. Finally, it was a pleasure staying for here guys if you enjoyed this episode, subscribe.
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