No Filter in Paradise
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No Filter in Paradise
Otmar Oduber: BBO ta cabando cu nos hende! | EP 173
Nos a sinta cu lider di partido PPA, Otmar Oduber. Nos a Papia tokante Cannabis, e differencia entre BBO y BTW, e caso contra dje, banco centraal y mucho mas...
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What are your plans and benefits of legalizing cannabis in Ruba?
Speaker 2:Even before April 4th, I read that there are more than 24 banks that are saying that we don't want to open it.
Speaker 3:Exactly what I wanted to know.
Speaker 1:Open it up as a nation, as a north, as a biobank. We don't give a shit.
Speaker 2:No and the people yes.
Speaker 1:Before yes.
Speaker 2:I mean, there are new generations, young guys. I agree with them. You don't vote for my dad, I'm right, damn right. E-commerce you can talk about digital business, but guess what? I don't even pay with Paypal. I don't even have money to pay myself. I pay with the cost of living, with the cost of living. Let's be honest, it's a little flat. The cost of living is high, so it's easy to drink, to drink, to drink. It's easy to drink, to drink, to drink, to drink, but BBO is killing everybody out here.
Speaker 3:Hey yo, what's up? I like chemistry.
Speaker 1:Wow, for some reason that was very loud, I mean y'all are like asleep, fuck up. Guys, welcome back to no Filter in Paradise, a show about anything and everything, abc Island's favorite podcast, sorry. A show about anything and everything between two friends you already know I'm super, super straight and the other one extremely, extremely gay baby, and I'm melanated.
Speaker 1:you said it one time and now you're stuck with it. It's gonna stay, it's definitely gonna stay. Alright, guys, it's gonna stay, it's gonna stay, it's gonna stay, it's gonna stay, it's gonna stay, it's gonna stay. It's Mr Omar Oduber, and we want to have you, and, for our guests, we want to have you, and that's none other than Mr Otmar Odiber.
Speaker 2:Welcome. Thank you, by the way thank you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, we work hard, we try our best.
Speaker 2:For the Orange Economy.
Speaker 3:Well, I don't know if you can see it, but it's orange, it's a little bit like Turkey, it's a little bit like a bomb. It's a little bit like a standard For the orange economy.
Speaker 1:Actually I was debating. I was recording with someone yesterday, I don't know if you can see it. I don't know if you can see it.
Speaker 3:Do you see it? I think so. It's LPR.
Speaker 1:It's LPR. Yeah, yeah, this man plays too much.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking a bit about it. As long as I enjoy it, it's great, it's always.
Speaker 1:So we're in three segments. We start with Icebreaker, then we have a few questions, then we ask the Ahata, going to ask the Ata, so we're going to ask the Ata, and then, if we don't have time, we're going to finalize and we're going to ask a couple of extra questions when we're done with the. So we're going to start with Icebreaker, we're going to do a pro frame, pro frame.
Speaker 2:Pro frame. Pro frame, pro frame.
Speaker 1:Pro frame Awesome. Admar, do you prefer walking in the future or going back to the past and changing something?
Speaker 2:Definitely the future. If I go back to the past, I'll go back to the past. But if I go back to the past I'll go back to the future, Because I prefer going back to the future and going back to the future. But if I go back in the past, you won't know the future, Because if you go back in the future you'll be right to know what you went through in the past.
Speaker 1:But if you go back in the past, you'll be able to fix the future.
Speaker 2:I'll fix it. I'll fix the future, I'll fix the past. I want to go back in the past. I have experience in the past. I want to go back in the past. I you in the private sector. I want to see you completely new, full of view, new. I want to see you in politics. I want to see you in the past. I want to see you in the future.
Speaker 1:I want to see you in the future.
Speaker 2:I want to see you in the future, I want to see you in the future.
Speaker 1:I want to see you in the future. I want to see you in the future.
Speaker 2:I want thinking hey you hit me with a question, I'm sure, but if there's a screenshot, I'll post it. I'll show it to the public.
Speaker 1:No, it's over In Aruba. What's the most overrated place in Aruba In my opinion? You have a different opinion Overrated yeah, I'm not going to say it. I don't want to say it, overrated, I want to get shocked. I want to post it online. I hope he doesn't somehow agree with the person.
Speaker 2:Get overrated. No, I mean the way you get overrated. You want to be a whore. You want to be more beautiful. You want to be overrated. You want to have a higher expectation.
Speaker 3:You get hyped on the air, but then I don't know why you're hyped that much. But it's really not all that, by the way with the opinion.
Speaker 1:No, really, I want to do with Aruba, our propaganda, our place.
Speaker 2:The only thing I brought from the visit in general to Aruba, something that I know from the technical side. I know security. When I come to Aruba I'm going to be so addicted to the river Caminda, so it gave me a sense of, oh, I have an expectation, so it's definitely something we have to go take care of. So it's not really like a specific thing, but the general thing is in the sense of it was amazing, amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1:But being like whoa, what the fuck is all these?
Speaker 3:Nobody showed me this part of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a pleasure to meet you, and what?
Speaker 2:I'm not going to send people to Paris or Costco not all of those places but now that I have an attraction, I have a tour going on. It's attracting, of course, guys. If you go for a walk, there's San Nicolás, oh, if you go, well, I'm going to see it's going to be hard. But if you go normally, there's tours, jeeps, buses, it's a safe place. It's a safe place. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful place.
Speaker 3:It's a safe place.
Speaker 2:It's a safe place. It's a safe place. It's a safe place. It's a safe place. It's a safe place. It's a safe place. It's a safe place. It's a safe place. It's a safe place. It's a safe place.
Speaker 1:It's a safe place.
Speaker 2:It favorito. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1:I'm kidding.
Speaker 2:I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Speaker 3:Wendy's no, but I want to dance with him.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to do a good back this year with KFC. What the fuck. I'm a KFC lover Seriously. I'm going to eat five beers a week. I'm not sure if John is going to be able to do it, but I'm going to be an ally of my little brother, Declan. Love KFC. He's going to be in.
Speaker 1:KFC every day. You're going to be in KFC every day. Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 3:You're going to be in KFC every day. You're going to be in KFC every day. No, I'm going to be in KFC every day.
Speaker 2:That's wild.
Speaker 3:But before that oh stop, that's wild.
Speaker 2:Are you going to ask them to come to your house?
Speaker 3:Why.
Speaker 2:Sit your ass down somewhere. What?
Speaker 3:Are you going to ask them?
Speaker 2:No, I'm not the service in general.
Speaker 1:I'm not. What's the go-to combo? What do you want to ask them? What do I want to ask them? Two spicy peaches?
Speaker 2:I don't think I want to ask who would you like to ask two special spicy? I don't think I would ask. I would ask for a door and he would ask if I would like a sauce. Tap, tap, tap they know already that's how it is in Dubai. That's how it is in Dubai. I don't know one can do it I promise you, if I don't know, it will take me 30 minutes to eat.
Speaker 1:I would say I don't know how to say it in Spanish, and in fact I don't know.
Speaker 3:I don't want to walk in Turkey I don't know how to say it in Turkish.
Speaker 2:By the way I don't know how to say it in Turkish. I don't know how to say it in Turkish.
Speaker 3:He is so stupid.
Speaker 1:How many years have you been voting for the first BIA?
Speaker 2:I've been studying, but I haven't written anything. I've been voting for 18 years.
Speaker 1:For which party and for whom?
Speaker 2:I've been voting for the AFP for 18 years. I've been voting for 16 years. I've been campaigning AVP for 18 years and I was 16 years old when I started this hard campaign for the AVP. Now I'm 24 years old when I'm active in the AVP party. That's when I started the difference in opinion. I'm a person who's been through a lot from the beginning. I don't understand it yet, but I want to. It's worth it, but it's worth it. At a certain point, I was a vote-getter. I was a vote-getter for Aruba. I was a tourist in 2016. And there's a difference in opinion. Each one of us has a reason as we speak during the last year, the other one. There's a time when we're angry with the big party but we're going to stop during the year.
Speaker 1:If you recognize the Arab world, the result is true. Oh yes, oh yes of AVP more.
Speaker 2:Hey, no fail, no bleed, no phrase. Hey, please. Maybe my thing is different. I say no, but I think no crying over spilled milk. She passes, otmar moves on, the game moves on, but she's going to put, she's going to be extremely successful in a very difficult period. But in a way, pepe Pepe is going to be in 6 weeks for me with the election.
Speaker 2:I agree with them. I agree with them. I agree with them. I agree with them. I agree with them. I agree with them. I agree with them. I agree with them. I agree with them. I agree with them. I agree with them. I agree with them. I agree with them. I agree with them. I agree with them. I agree with them. I agree with them. I agree with them, I. So, in the end, we don't have a president who votes for us. Here he votes for a party and here he votes for a party, so he votes for a person. Otherwise, he doesn't vote for 29 candidates or 16 candidates. He doesn't vote for one candidate, so he doesn't vote for a different candidate because he votes for a person who wants to vote for him. So if he votes for a person, no matter where he is, no matter which party he is in, you have to vote for them and if you don't, you have to hope that they will vote for you.
Speaker 2:Follow me in the time of the AFP, follow me in the time of the POR, and that's what you have to do. You have to vote for a person because you don't know what you have to do with a person.
Speaker 1:I agree, but the last two elections, as you said, I voted for a person and I don't want to do it in a way that is not a color. I don't want to do it in a way that is not a color. I don't want to do it in a way that is not a color. I don't want to do it in a way that is not a color. I don't want to shit. I'm going to make my own decision.
Speaker 3:I'm never going to vote for the same person. No, every vote changes. Finally, I'm going to vote for you, but I'm going to ruin your friendship.
Speaker 2:Shut up. That's very cute. Por fin vou te votar para meu querido. Por fim, hello babo ruína mamisá bocabai.
Speaker 3:Shut up. That's not very cute, Like they know it's cute, why not orange? It was not by choice, it was just a moment.
Speaker 1:Don't be poor about this viado.
Speaker 2:We got questions for you no, no, no, no. At the end of the day, it's questions for you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, no.
Speaker 1:I hope you know, I hope you're honest. This is a time where things are calmer.
Speaker 2:This is a time where you're more aggressive about your ideas, your plans, your vision for the future. But this is a time where life, like during the last five years you know you have to take things different. You have to work in the private sector. You have to work in the public sector. You have to live more closely to see what the reality of life is. In the private sector, you have a lot of money. In the public sector, you have a lot of money, but you have to be more aware of the reality of life.
Speaker 2:Compared to a bubble in politics where you have a lot, of money you have a lot of drive and you have to be aware of the fact that you have a lot of money. At a certain point you have to be at your top. You have to be able to serve almost 160 employees when you have nothing. You have to be Exactly.
Speaker 3:Out of touch.
Speaker 2:You were out of touch. Yes, you were out of touch. Step back a little Simple things. When you go to a supermarket, you also go shopping. When you go to have a supermarket and also have a shopping mall, how much money do you need to have a quiet store and meet a waiter, a bartender, to fuck the job of a waiter, of a bartender, and how much money do you need to have a parliamentary office? And this is a question.
Speaker 2:I think this is a Open my eyes. I hope it's, I hope you in my life will change, and I think it's a question that I asked myself in the beginning. It's a reality. I don't want to go back and change. That's the fact, but what I do want to do is use this to make me a better person, a better listener. I hope people listen to us and understand. So this is a little bit of that. I don't know if it's good or bad, and that's the difference. That's the difference between Otmar. There's an Otmar who's a little more humble and an Otmar who's a little more I don't want to say political as well. Explaining my vision, working out my plans to communicate in the Aruba community Versus retali out my plans to communicate to the community versus retaliating and you know retaliating in the sense of pushing, always wanting to make sure that I was right.
Speaker 2:So I think that's where the leadership is missing. You know, the person is missing because to convince people to go in a direction and not force people to go in a direction to make sure that I was right one thing I remember from Mart direction for his government.
Speaker 1:One thing I want to say to Marta is that you were in politics, you left, you started a business and now you're back. While you're still in politics, politics, they want to come with all these rules, baby, baby, all that stuff. You never run a business in your life, so you don't have an effect on the business. But if you're going to implement this here, we're going to have more plans. If you think about how many plans you're going to implement here 200, 100, no, we're going to do one or two plans to make a good decision.
Speaker 3:And then, what about all the small businesses that are working for the 13 and a?
Speaker 2:quarter. The cost of living is high. The cost of living is high. Let's go flat. The cost of living is high because BBO is good for the government. It's easy to cover, the government has a lot of money, but BBO is killing everybody out here.
Speaker 1:Which we're going to get into that actually, yeah. And BBO is like that it's a lot more decisions than it is to raise a minimum wage and, honestly, we're still in the first like it's more of an icebreaker.
Speaker 3:Let's go, fuck it, let's go.
Speaker 1:We're still in the icebreaker phase. I'm kidding, we're not done with the program. No, no, no, we're not done with the program.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, we're not done with the icebreaker.
Speaker 1:I'll go to mention the part that ends. I don't want to end the program. No, no, no, I'm going to start.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, I'm going to say icebreaker, something cool, okay, okay, okay, I don't want to say another thing, but I want to say icebreaker, whatever.
Speaker 1:But I want to say icebreaker. But going back, If I'm not mistaken, if you're going to put it in the debate, if you're going to raise the minimum loan, you're going to say yes. But if you're going to say yes, you're going to say it's a commercial, so you're going to raise it at a price.
Speaker 2:No, that's a question of yes or no. So you can't stay without raising the minimum loan. The minimum loan goes up. There's a law in Guatemala that says you can raise it according to inflation Okay, to rise according to inflation Okay, Part of inflation. But to raise the minimum loan for you, there are two different things. Minimum loan for you, you can raise it according to the inflation of the year 2%, 3%, depending on what inflation is. But if you have a gap between minimum loan and minimum bastante, it's a lot bigger.
Speaker 2:You can raise it by 5% 20% of the year. The minimum loan that you want to raise for you is $1,000 per year. So this is just the inflation of a year. There's nothing to compare with what the minimum is. The minimum is enough in Aruba, according to what I know, is $2,600 or $2,800 for a single person.
Speaker 1:For a survivor in Ar.
Speaker 2:I survived that yeah since the minimum salary is still 1,900, something like that. I don't have a book to read in my head. So, yes, you have to raise the minimum salary according to what you have, to raise the minimum salary according to the inflation you have. But we don't want to fill a gap that lacks to reach a minimum enough through raising the minimum loan. Wow, yes, you know, the Turkish people are great. They are the best in the world.
Speaker 2:Pension man. In Turkey there is no pension. We are all discussing pension. We are all saying, well, there is a lot of money, PPA, with the decision of 40, 50. You know, I also decided, and I also put a law, that wherever I work, I have to cooperate with the workers. If there is a plate that is winning, there is no pension in Europe. So if you have a mother, you have to give her your recognition. If you have a mother, you have to give her your recognition. If you have a mother, you have to give her your recognition. If you have a mother, you have to give her your recognition. If you have a mother, you have to give her your recognition. If you have a mother, a general security for your people.
Speaker 2:So now that we know how much is the balance that our economy has had since 1986, with Aruba 20% growing, mariana 2% growing? The balance is the profit that we have in the company, in our case with a small percentage and, by the way, nothing new, no matter how much it is. Or in Europe, in countries that have that have it in law, a small percentage 1%, 1.5% in the five papers, in the paper of the profit of the company towards the distribution between the owners of the company. Hold on, what do we do? We don't have any salary, but we don't have 30 years of salary. We are not talking about a loss of money on top of it because we don't pay the taxes. We don't pay the taxes because we drink more pizza and don't work. Neither do we with the driver. So we are 100% off track of the company's wages. We are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are we are, we are.
Speaker 1:I'm going to see how many wins we'll last and how many we'll lose, and I'll be off track, I'll get my dividend because I'll be 100% off track.
Speaker 2:And even more beautiful than that is that you create an incentive for the trader to first say, hey, if I perform better, I'll earn 100%.
Speaker 1:But you know what I'll lose?
Speaker 2:it's so crazy.
Speaker 1:It's more money for me. It's crazy Because, like it's an album. Maybe I told you because I'm no, because I'm you, because I know it's a good business to have and it seems to me that if I ever come to a bar where they offer me a contract, a percentage like super small, I have 1% of whatever I profit. I've been saying this like over a year because I was like dude, you're not going to make any money, percent of whatever it profits. I've been saying this over a year. I was like I'm not going to make any money. I was feeling a type of proudness. I'm not talking about the company. The harder I work, the more money I make, the money you invest.
Speaker 2:It's true, you deserve to have your money, Sure, but if you don't have a good worker?
Speaker 1:ganache is also.
Speaker 2:Exactly. You don't have the right team, you don't have the right idea. But if you don't have the good employees, you will never produce ganache you will have a tremendous restaurant with good food, a good chef, but you also have to have a good table. A good table, a good night, a good room.
Speaker 1:You have to have a restaurant like yes yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. We make a decision that we don't want more hotel rooms. We can't grow in height, we want to grow in width. How to grow in width? Where we have a better service, where we have a better product. Create an incentive to give instruments, give work, invest so we can have a better product, of restaurant, of business, whatever and, on the other hand, look for a better service. Invest in our income. Make sure that we have a certification program. By the way, my mom managed to start in 2011, 2012, with a man named Die Out. This is mandatory. We live from tourism, so we have to make sure that our income is understood. The future of Aruba you go in and diversify the economy. You can diversify the economy. You can diversify the economy. Max out to 15%, but you have to depend on Europe 80% of tourism so you have to make the tourism work.
Speaker 3:You still need it and you don't have to make it for the next 40 to 50 years.
Speaker 2:You still need it. Just make sure that you can create more value for the people who invest in the road have to pay for the road. How do we want to pay $400, $500, $600 in a high-rise hotel? But now I'm going to go to Sasaki, where there's a lot of people going back and forth and the light is not going on.
Speaker 2:It's not possible when there's a fire or water. So those things to make sure that Zorba has a good market to attract people to Aruba. And make sure that other authorities in Aruba make sure that everything that is infrastructure is part of the product and part of the service that we are going to invest in and invest in it and Zorba. And make sure that it is necessary, because that's the future of tourism in Aruba and all the management is. We are going hand in hand with the environment. We have a built with nature policy. We started with it. We have a new department, a new institute.
Speaker 3:We are loading it as a flag. What's the risk if we do it this way? We're going to break down certain things that we can understand. We can give feedback, but we can also understand exactly what we're selling and how we're benefiting from it. So what do you think we're going to do in the future?
Speaker 2:At the moment. I'm not sure if I can get closer to you. I don't know if you can tell me. I don't know if you have a lack of leadership For entrepreneurs and startups. I'm not sure. What about the tech market in Aruba? I'm not interested in anything. I'm not talking about e-commerce. I'm not talking about digital market na Aruba, não se não fosse nada. Tu entra pra aprender e-commerce, tu entra pra aprender digital business, pero guess what? Eu não vou pagar, nem com Paypal. Eu ainda não vou pagar. Eu não vou aceitar nenhum crypto currencies and digital
Speaker 2:payments idiota me querendo. Normalmente eu vou comprar uma máquina, um device, eu vou pegar o celular. Ela vira uma máquina de swipe, por exemplo. Normally you buy a machine, you get a device, you get your cell phone and it becomes a machine to swipe for. Uber and tourism. So in Cuba we can't use it because guess what? Our central bank won't allow it, because we're more holy than the Pope of Rome.
Speaker 1:So we have to change that.
Speaker 2:We have to change that because our program is loud and clear.
Speaker 3:have to change that so exactly what I wanted to know some type of relationship, black card or some exactly, but they're not willing to do that. Some type of relationship with America, like a black card or something like that, which is exactly what Yamawaki, but they're not willing to do that. So, with Abo and Mar and Pepe, we need to make sure this happens, because they're campaigning with them, but change the policy of the central bank, and the central bank has to listen, abo has to supervise.
Speaker 2:But guess what the economic policy is being? To put it on, can you do that? Of course you can. You just have to need. You need to have the balls. Sorry, so if I don't give you the ball in the patient and explain the bank, but find it, it's not about the central bank, it's about explaining the central bank.
Speaker 1:What's going on and what's not.
Speaker 2:I don't want to depend on 30%. Listen to me, 30, 30%. Listen to me 30% of lodging facilities for our tourists in Aruba are other than hotels. 70% of tourists who come, 300,000 tourists plus, are staying in another accommodation, airbnb, whatever with another hotel. Guess what? What's happening to the bank that doesn't allow the type of payment that's happening. All the money that's paid doesn't go to America, doesn't go Central Bank of America in Europe, whatever. The plate is still there, the plate is still there and that's 30% of the lodging facilities income that the economy is not earning, simply to have a management of the Central Bank that the business has. If it's not allowed, it's not because it's bad, because it's all part of the world, but you know it's dangerous, it's risky. Well, guess what.
Speaker 2:It's time to take risk it's time to take risk, I think. Just make sure that you and if you don't know if the bank is going to guys, if you want, with four banks, you have to define if we can open a market of cannabis, yes or no with us. You know, see if non-aruba could not tour abyss, a tour political abyss, well, or an abyss ami kuku kuku emotivo tapas over a naughty institutions and financier money of abyss of a bank on a corresponding bank exactly not a permit in a.
Speaker 2:well then, we go to other banks. Are our institutions, financial institution, who see the permit? The Vienna corresponding bank, sobra, a monopoly cutting, has now four banks. You know, I've been here for a year, you know, and my friend, my friend in the bank, is not my friend.
Speaker 3:Of course, of course, you are.
Speaker 2:Good morning, but in reality guys, I want to go back to the people Now that you know the bank with less people to read, and to the people now that you have a bank with less people to publish in the ganache, you have to pay a little more, a little more. In your bank you have a middle page whatever 87 million florins and Aruba Bank 58 million florins. So you have less, 22 million florins. En quien te sonco menos a ganar RBC a ganar 22 million florin y banco de Caribe y banco de Caribe, whatever. Guys, mi que me abri mercado. With all due respect, nos tienen 140 mil alma de bíblia, legal e ilegal.
Speaker 2:Nos cinco papi de seis ando cuatro banco ando un liquidez enorme de banco rampa sobra con banco Open the market up. It just boils down to like service.
Speaker 3:Exactly, exactly. Well, mr Papier, of course.
Speaker 2:But guess what, hope you master photo, but you know what? But just open it up.
Speaker 1:Facts are facts, that's it. So you would consider yourself a capitalist now, no, I consider myself a capitalist.
Speaker 2:But you know what If you're not? A capitalist you don't have a job. You don't have a salary. No, you don't have anything. And my business I'm not going to say it's a touch it's part of the tech market for Aruba and entrepreneurship and all that new businesses via e-commerce, etc. Hey, we're talking about telecom, we're talking about the bank business. Why not open up the telecom business in Aruba? Why not?
Speaker 1:allow other providers Exactly. In the American Aruba. We have access With all due respect.
Speaker 2:I'm not a dependent. I'm not a person. How do we go from a tech?
Speaker 3:business if we're doing it's Durami, it's loading, it's loading, it's loading, it's loading 5G for real.
Speaker 1:Here we have 5G to 3G? I didn't know 3G it's floating, I don't know. But if you have a meeting with us, it's 3D, it's a float. Yeah, I'm not going to say anything else I'm going to sit here with you. No, no, no. Facts are facts. Facts are facts.
Speaker 2:It is true, it is true, it is true, it is true, it is true, it is true, it is true, it is true, it is true, it is true, it is true, it like that.
Speaker 1:Whatever battle, like, yeah, in the end I will get out of the pad episode or maybe I'll get a little more time to get around, but in the end I'm powerful enough to upload episodes, to make cast to upload shit yeah, it's sad to have a world like this, where you don't go live and get things done it's annoying. It's annoying, but it's Fully off-scroll. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:I'm ready, especially in sales.
Speaker 1:But in a short time I woke up and I saw that the bank had started selling something at 2%. I saw that the bank had started selling something, but I saw that Fransman was selling paper.
Speaker 2:It's Cartina, it's Turbanco, turbanco, turbanco, turbanco, turbanco.
Speaker 1:Turbanco, turbanco Tur.
Speaker 3:But at some point you're out of business. So thank you, but I'll find a different way.
Speaker 2:Or that's it Competition. You need competition, that's it.
Speaker 1:So first of all, tell us how you are. I know you were sick for a while.
Speaker 2:Thank you, god, hope you're good. That's why we're back. Last year I had an operation, I had an important operation, three operations. I had to send a message. I had to drink water.
Speaker 3:Water, Drink water Guys. This is the best thing I have.
Speaker 2:For the last year I had to spend a week trying to drink a glass of water. My big problem was my slow down. I never had a slug down or an esophagus that wasn't working properly. My esophagus is working at 45% and that's enough for me to drink water to hydrate myself enough.
Speaker 2:That's the main problem with my stomach, with my reflux, with all these issues. I didn't find out about it in Colombia, I don't know how it is, and that's why, from that day on, it completely changed my life and it's here. From that day on, it changed my life completely and it's something that I want to encourage. At some point, I want to encourage myself, I want to be able to do it, etc, etc. So guys, yeah, a serious time and things that aren't good for Turks, for Turks, for Bojira, anyways, for Turks, anyways, general health that's good for you exactly, let's go.
Speaker 2:Yes, for sure, for sure, you got a question or can you go in?
Speaker 3:I kind of want to go in, but like, just, I'm going to put it like so they're going to put it like this Do you want to get here or do you want to get another game to join us?
Speaker 1:It's kind of like a three-way question.
Speaker 2:No, no no, I'm trying to determine. I decided a year ago to start meeting with the Institute and I hope, I hope, I hope that we can deliver. I and the Institute, hope, hope, hope, I hope that we can deliver this. I'm thinking of converting the platform that we have into a group of people that we can prepare for the future. It's a platform for the country and I think that's a good time to make a party. If we have an election next year, I hope it opens. I hope it opens when it comes to our government.
Speaker 2:Yeah, automatically, when a government is there excludes everyone from being able to sign a new political party. Yeah, which is totally wrong, because when a big government comes and says we don't have a DBA or we don't have a parliament, it changes everything. But if a government is there, who is going to vote, who is going to vote, who is going to participate, and it's legally not allowed. If there's something, is that it's not legally allowed. So if you're in a political committee, you have to know, you have to understand. That's one thing.
Speaker 2:For us it's another change, a change in the way a party doesn't get. For me, zetel has 2,600 votes and then it gets 2,540, and then, hey, you're going to lose Zetel, so a party that has 100, 200 votes out of 2,000, you're going to be a real deal. The way we're doing it here is totally unfair. We're excluding, like in a big group of people just because it's a real deal. We're doing it like it's a real deal. It's not fair. There's another change we're making and out of three changes, what we're doing is implementing in our party, the PPA, so there's more votes than they have in the state. I mean, the state has an election to represent the people. If they don't have votes, they don't represent the people.
Speaker 2:If they don't have votes, they don't have as many votes as they do in the list. But going back to PPA, now is the opportunity to rise Now. I don't have any other party, I don't have any other party to join, but I have a. There's no other match, no other match in the Pogba Join, but there's Rastrix in the PPA. Ppa is a traditional match, a match of 75 years and a match that makes a huge difference in the life in the family, in the life of the people of Naruba. If PPA is the only match, there's no other match. Ppa is the foundation for the time of Juancho Erosquín, which is the foundation the way we saw it last time. No, for the time of Juancho Eroskin, tauton Fundeschi, manera Mabisun, rato Njum Otro Partido Den Antijas Ni Den Reino Julandes a llegan a lograr de 5 asientos, de 21 asientos en el Parlamento. That's a lot. Y no logré una elección solo, pero a gobernar 20 años seguidos lo que no conocíamos.
Speaker 1:Yes, five elections, three others with a gap of a compass. So it's not good that philosophy is time to incorporate.
Speaker 2:It's not time to fly to the refinery. Because it's not time to incorporate people from Isla Riva, from Corso, from Surimam from Belize.
Speaker 2:It's not time to represent. Basically, it's all yes, so philosophy is a little bit. I applied it and now I'm back. It makes sense that I'm on the list. I don't know if I'm going to go to Bonaire. I don't know if I'm going to go to Corsola. I don't know if I'm going to go to Venezuela. I don't know if I'm going to go to Colombia, the Dominican Republic. I'm going to go with Abin. He was a kid, he was young, he was born, he's good. He's not talking. I want to jump into a segment here, really feeling that we're achieving to rebuild it from PPA to Aruba.
Speaker 1:For sure, I want to jump into a segment here. Okay with that, go ahead, go ahead. So I'm asking you about Ajata. I know you know that in Kebula you explain the difference between BW and BW and you put the word BW to BW correct, Correct. So I'm a minister. I'm a minister In 2016,. The law was passed against all-inclusive.
Speaker 2:We stopped hotels from selling beer all-inclusive. I'm a full pro, Sure, but time is, it takes courage, it takes courage. It doesn't end with me. Anyways, we don't have any details here. We're talking about a hotel, an IP hotel, which is based on a very good all-inclusive time and, logically, it has a lot of plates, but the roof doesn't harm it. So we're talking about a law. We're talking about a whole island, the Caribbean, which is based on a. It's impossible to buy or bring a hotel in Aruba and make it an all-inclusive, because it's a unique legal system that exists. There's one exception in San Nicolas. I've been to San Nicolas. I have the right to have a hotel and I made it an all-inclusive. Sometimes people say oh no, I don't want to can have a hotel that's all inclusive.
Speaker 2:Sometimes people say oh no, it's not all inclusive, guys, 40 years, you can't have a hotel that's all inclusive. You have to give San Nicolas a chance. You have to ask what time is San Nicolas? No, it's not like that Hotel is not all inclusive. Whatever, it's not all over. No incentive is to put. But we see it in the forum in San Nicolas Guys, what the hell? The incentive to come in For both. There's tax holiday. For 10 years. They haven't paid a single penny for a hotel Tax holiday if you go to a hotel Until now. We don't want to put an incentive to the people. They have no idea what's going on. Or another club? Well, guess what?
Speaker 1:as we speak, exactly because nobody leaves and puts money in the system.
Speaker 2:So that was one big decision. Two in 2018, we passed a law called World Barrier Revenue, which was approved by the EU. It started to be Everybody I'm not saying it's your enemy but it started to educate people. No, no more hotels, we're going to separate. You know, guys, in 2018, we signed a, a law, a bill, according to the law of the European Union, that I was saying with no more hotel rooms and not only hotel rooms, but I was saying I don't have permission to bring condominiums or apartments to rent or short term, because it's a bit to put it in a hotel it's, but the hotel is still there.
Speaker 2:But the hotel is still there. So in in certain areas, not one room either, for example, in the north, you can't put more, not even boutique hotels. It's prohibited in the European Law. Our laguerre opened, if I'm not mistaken, in the center of the beach, where the WAF project is the harbor, and in San Nicolas, which is the only two places that are allowed to put a certain amount of boutique hotels in a maximum of five rooms.
Speaker 2:Yes, so there are two big decisions with our city and now we have three decisions that, unfortunately, I think Otmar Lomis has been back to implement with what we have to continue growing, but we have to continue growing in a natural way, in a friendship with the environment. We don't talk about the environment. We talk about the environment only in terms of nature, but in terms of the environment, in terms of the way we live, education, health, infrastructure of food, housing, education, health infrastructure, etc. Etc. Etc. We need to be more careful in the way we continue to grow in terms of what we do with tourism, and the answer is yes, we need to continue to grow in the sector. We know that it's not going to change. We don't want to depend on tourism, but we need to do it and put it at the base in a way that we know that it's not going to change. But we don't see any problems with tourism to create a concern and even an irritation for the people who live locally.
Speaker 2:It makes sense that too much over-tourism, too much Airbnbs in my neighborhood too much. Now I'm working on a beach that I can't enjoy, but too much traffic, it's very busy, I can't get to work. I have a cruise ship in the state of Aruba and the point is let's see what happens. 10 years ago, 15 years ago, we were looking for a ship that was bigger than Aruba, now Oasis of the Seas. We want Aruba 7,000 henry, 10,000 henry. We're going to trade Aruba. No, now the focus is let's look for a ship. It's a boat with a bigger lake in Aruba. It's a boat that costs 2,000 or 3,000 yen, but it's more convenient with a boat that costs 10,000 yen to rent a boat. What's the other part of the city? It's time to put a stop to the amount of tourists 20,000 tourists in Aruba.
Speaker 2:You can get 300 boats, 800,000 cruisers, but you can get 1 million visitors. No, now that we have this paper with our achievements for tourists, we have to minimize this, so that we can achieve the advantage of having value for the city and the power of buying tourists with this large plate in the back of the city. So how did you manage to do it, guys? We have Nice.
Speaker 1:That was a good answer. How would your government help solve the labor shortage that exists in all economic sectors?
Speaker 2:explain In the last 8 months, we are going to legalize more or less 10,000 undocumented in Aruba. It's going to be like how many of these people are Rubians, etc. There are unions, commercial groups, political parties. There is a debate or suddenly you are a pro. So if you are going to be in the last 6 months, you are going to be a person who is going to lose votes.
Speaker 2:No, If you are not going to be there for six months, I'm going to be there for a year. I'm going to be there for a year. I'm going to be there for a year. I'm going to be there for a year. I'm going to be there for a year. No, I'm going to be there for a year. I'm going to be there for a year. I'm going to be there for a year. I'm going to be there for a year. I'm going Just imagine I mean it's 10,000, to legalize 10,000, but I want it to be like 15,000 in total.
Speaker 2:Imagine 15,000 people who are finding remedies in a country that is for nothing, and then another one is paying for it 50 million, by the way. That's the cost, right? 10,000 people who are not legalized because they don't have a paper. That costs 50 million. They are not losing as a country, as a government, Between asset and asset-based loan, blessing 50 million per year. Just, we are not going to promise COVID If we just make COVID Paolo, cinco años, 250 million florins. Conozco a cobra Y el gai no ente. El gai no está aquí, no está bebando. Balde un palo, balde un bridge. No está jortando porque son unos criminales de alta roba, but also they're working. Almost all of them are working. Bote un par de cem para apropiar para el escrit, pero legal. I agree, I'm not down right, but we have a law that forces many people to pay less.
Speaker 1:It also works for some people. If you buy a document, you pay less but. If you document. Whoever is the contractor is forced to not pay what the market fee is. It's not true, if you buy a book, you don't have to pay for it If you buy a legal book, you can't pay for it.
Speaker 2:If you buy a book, you can. And that's one part.
Speaker 1:I still have more or less, 2,000 or 3,000 people even though it's necessary.
Speaker 2:In the next four years, before we go back to Naruba, I want to have a unique moment. We were all crying, but there was no policy in place. We said, okay, Kiko, now that 10,000 people are going to legalize, we're going to put a rule, we're going to legalize, but guess what? I'm going to promise you three permissions Every time I renew it. I will take a course in parliament, I will take a course in English, I will take a course in burkering in Aruba, in integration in Aruba. So this is an opportunity to make us a good economy. Contrary to what we do wrong in the past, we don't have any rules.
Speaker 2:Before we used to say no, but you know we don't want people to get married. We want people to get married. No, it's the opposite. What we want is to get married. We want to get married To contribute, to get married, to have a long life by the way, a touch of pension but you're saying that it's illegal.
Speaker 3:You don't have to wait 10 years to see what happens illegal.
Speaker 2:So now we use not only our labor force, but we integrate it. So guess what If you say yes, but we're not working, we don't have money. We've been working for 40 years, so we don't have any help to get a good pension. Well, guess what? We don't have 40 years. It doesn't cost us coal, it doesn't cost us teachers, it doesn't cost us to pay the bills we have here. We don't spend it on vehicles. If we maestro e no costa nos pa lei top e renda nang aki nos no gasta aze veigo nang que vem nang a bin yuda nos de nos economia. Sin que costa nos 40 a indi nang bida algo so you can give them back at the end pa su si bonodo nang guess what? E da bira problema de nos mes? It's about policy, guys.
Speaker 2:Vision de 25 años Pasou decisión que vamos a tomar de próximo 4 años tabá determinar ebida de 10 mil géneros aquí que vamos a legalizar de próximo 25 años tabá de un consecuencia de pensionado de 14 mil pensionados que está cobrando de 8 mil florín conan da seguir viva no pa 4 años. Conan da seguir viva pa next 10 años si o. But every decision we make is crucial to have a long-term consequence. So think of the long-term vision and put us in the game. It's the only game with a long-term vision. Every other game is 4 years, 4 years, 4 years. You want it?
Speaker 1:to be 20-50, right.
Speaker 2:We want it to be 20-25 or 20-50.
Speaker 1:Yes, you want to throw in.
Speaker 3:I want to start, but no, no, no.
Speaker 1:I think we're done with the Ahata questions.
Speaker 3:No, you said you wanted to ask him about.
Speaker 1:No, I mean well, honestly.
Speaker 3:I want to go in.
Speaker 2:I want to go in.
Speaker 1:But honestly, I'm not going to go back and forth, but because it's like a book, I'm going to bringing up some good points. What's the difference of what we explain over the baby yoga beta way?
Speaker 2:oh yeah, big difference hopefully it was a little short it's hard to say short, but explain it to me in the beginning. Sorry, baby yoga. Cumulative it's easy to explain 7% of each. How in the world? How in the world. How in the world. How in the world. How in the world. How in the world. How in the world. How in the world. How in the world. How in the world. How in the world. How in the world. How in the world. How in the world. How in the world. How in the world, how in the world, how in the city.
Speaker 2:You have to do part B of B2A, which means you cover a day's income and not the cumulative, which means you pay a year's income but you pay it in each shift. B2a also includes what you do in the town of Plakaberg and after that you get a reduction in their loan burden, will eliminate income burden and will reduce wealth burden. So it depends on how much you do and how much the height of your payday is. If you do a little bit in the people, you will get two. If you do a little bit in the people, you will get six. If you don't have any more information, you're going to be in the G6. You don't have any more money, you're going to include it. You're going to simplify the system of Cobra.
Speaker 2:And guess what? Now Shark is going to have 300 florins more in his house, his long blasting, our land of Dremploff, our bar, and what he has to pay. What do you have? 300 florins here. I spent it, you spent it. You're going to buy here. What happens? More importation, more importation, more plates for the government, more cars and B2B. The volume is going up. Before that, the main philosophy is to bring the difference between a B2B and a BBO. Bbo is tremendous, easy to buy. Take plates for the government. B2b is something. More difference. That's the difference. That's the difference. That's the difference. And courage to implement it From the PPA. It's going to be implemented. First of all, you can't work at the end of the program with someone who doesn't work with BADF. No, it depends on who works with the other. So if you work with the other, you can implement it better. Implement it consciously, not by yourself. If you're not able to do it for two years to implement it. We have prepared the community for the question of subprice.
Speaker 1:It's a very big impact. It's a big impact.
Speaker 2:It's a big impact. But guess what? We put a sign to cover it. We felt comfortable in the first year, but after the first year the sign that says Hire Back and Doge Loan Blasting is already doge loan blessing. Tabaita dibo que de viaje tabaita un adelanto. Que me eta un año con los cinco bridge que me notaba y dice que está fácil que tabaita un año que vamos a ser manageable presupuesto, pero no tabaita costado más, por eso abotamos más placa, pero único que me dice que el año siguiente abotabai vivo más drastically and an important hope. You know they left me a while ago thinking they're going to go to Bicel and so on. It's done in a way that I think it takes time to implement and take place in a good way, and that's what I think.
Speaker 1:Yes, sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say that I'm not a good politician, but I can say it yes, yes, yeah, black. And we didn't buy eggs. We didn't have a computer that we didn't buy guess what? We didn't know which place in the world was cheaper. We didn't know exactly yes it does exist. Yes, it does exist in the Netherlands by the way in the.
Speaker 1:Netherlands, it's via a private company we didn't, because then what happens is like, if I know at shark stores that the shirt is a little bit, I'm gonna go to a shark store. I was a fuck, fuck. Do you know how much a shark store costs? Like I didn't match a shark store and I had to increase my service so they could sell me instead which?
Speaker 3:is the smartest thing to do, and that's competition.
Speaker 2:The worst thing for a farmer is that they start to buy from people who tell them that they're scared and don't want to do it.
Speaker 1:That's it, fair market.
Speaker 2:Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up no-transcript.
Speaker 3:Now, riba Kaya, the majority of people feel or not, majority I don't think it's majority but a lot of people talk well with people I know from before or whatever, like Anantaman and I. No, ot Martin, I'm done. I can't want to yada, yada, yada. He talks really well. You can talk. Okay, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I remember this I don't have a gas station.
Speaker 2:I don't have a damn gas station. I remember this it's true, it's true, it's true, it's true, it's true, it's true, it's true, it's true, it's true, it's true, it's true, it's true, it's true, it's true, it's true, it's true, it's true. I know that there are a lot of stops. There are a lot of stops. There are never stops Natchez. Natchez. There are a lot of stops. There are no shopping malls.
Speaker 1:There are no stops.
Speaker 2:There are no express Britannia. Eiffel, there are a lot of stops, there are a lot of stops. I know that there are a lot of stops. I know that there are a lot of stops there. Yeah, in the hoping paparadeira, I'm the to have to go to the carnival, to the carnival, where I'm going to wear a short with a sloth, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go to the carnival. I'm going to wear a box with a shoe, with a shoe, I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach. I'm going, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 3:Exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly. I still go out. I go out at least once or twice a month. I go out to my house.
Speaker 1:I go to San Nicolás.
Speaker 2:I go to a tremendous roti. I know my friend Carti, I know Sharaima, I know everyone in the country. I know Totmar, I know Sinten, I know Dan Miservies.
Speaker 3:I know, sloth, I know.
Speaker 2:Rotispot and you know, if you don't have thought, you don't have thought, you find, If you don't have any thoughts, there's nothing to think about. You can put a lot of things, but I'm looking at the camera here. I'm going to put a lot of things. I'm going to do a lot of politics. I'm going to set up my not my personal part, but I'm going to set up my consultancy. I'm going to set up my consultancy in February 2019. I'm going to set up my consultancy uh, consultancy no-transcript professional, professional.
Speaker 2:I have to say. I have to say, ok, now we need an open space. I always have in my head the idea of container yards to open.
Speaker 2:I have to say, I have to say you're going to put a lock on it but, what I want is to put a lock on it, but there's a place here in December 2020. But why? Because I believe in my people and thank god now, support me big time, support me big time, support me big time, support me big time. Support me big time, support me big time, support me big time, support me big time, support me big time, support me big time, support me big time, support me big time, support me big time, support me big time, support me big time, support me big time, support me big time, support me big time, support me big time, support me big time, support me big, enormamente. E tengo a mi perseverancia. Move on. Kiko, a tu pochinchina trobe. Other concept Tei que men Kiko mi ta un don to earth person. Bo porta sigur kot Marta Rassi su trobo Den sector privá, den sector público, ma puro, sempre di Rassi. Ma tene gente que diz ai a placa acaba con niente Pese a oi ta vindo em politica.
Speaker 2:Guess what? I don't know what you want from politics. In any case, if you go with a Bible the last five years here and you work with Mr Hass, I don't have a problem with that. I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care the part of the bocicincio I deliver. I deliver food nature between 9 and 12 o'clock in the morning. That's my job.
Speaker 3:I have a broadcast every day.
Speaker 2:I do my job, I install, I work, because two years is over two and a half years. So, hey, I work. I have a joke, I mentioned it. I used to be a minister at the Ligno Park, where I project a champion with. Tell you, I was in the park when I was a champion. I was in the park with Amma and thank God I was there. I remember that the park was full of people. I remember that the park was full of people. Anyways, you know what I did? How about me? Nestor Fire, not a vessel, nestor, my office full, my office. And then we're going to put jeans with cats and we're going to pull santo and we're going to chop and we're going to do with garrity. Literally 23 people with all the stuff, with my secretary, with the counselor, with the boat, with the tour people with the jeans. You ask them today, hoping they don't know what's.
Speaker 2:To get the job done, to get the job done, to get the job done, to get the job done, to get the job done, to get the job done, to get the job done, to get the job done, to get the job done, to get the job done, to get the job done, to get the job done, to get the job done, to get the job done, to get the job done, to get the job done, to get the job done, to get the job done to Well, what we don't know yet. But we have a government Lanyard Park. Not only are we executing, we are inventing a plan to pay and today everyone is working with to pay for and to say you're going to do it with the TPF Tourism Product Enhancement Fund. It doesn't exist. It's a bad idea. What is it? A plan to pay for? A time share owners never pay anything, but they're going to pay almost 5 million euros, our money, for what we call the Tourism Product Enhancement Fund With AFP, you can say I don't know what you're talking about. Thank you, exactly, that's one, exactly Like a gem.
Speaker 2:I was in Atlanta with my partner, my wife and I. I was in a car, a car with my driver. I was passing by an honor. I was putting cranes on the tour and statues of the political tour that I was in Ah Batiko, henny and one of the Ruskin, and four of them, the only one. But in Atlanta, march 18th, I was working, I was going, I was putting, take out and I give honor to each one. What do you take from a person to give honor and rise up in the community? What is the problem? For me, at the right at the Plaza Batico Cruz in Betis, 1.6 million of a person who fights, brings and concretizes a part of this.
Speaker 3:And something that the people use.
Speaker 2:And the people use it in two kinds of things. For politics, they don't use it Exactly.
Speaker 3:Two kinds Exactly. Yeah, give him his credit. Yeah man, I fucks with that. Give Jackie jacket. Yeah man, yeah man he's so stupid.
Speaker 1:I wanna. I haven't studied in a long time, but I want to talk about St Nicholas. I want to talk about St Nicholas and I'm in St Nicholas. I'm in St Nicholas and I was thinking for years, 4 or 5 elections that were happening. Yes, jesus Otmar is still doing what he's doing in San Nicolas. Okay, Otmar is still doing, in short, in 2015,.
Speaker 2:I started In 2015,. Otmar became Minister of Culture and Tourism.
Speaker 3:Wow, you're a big man.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not. Wow, I'm going to die. Look at you.
Speaker 1:You're going to die.
Speaker 2:You're going to die, by the way, I'm going to visit you in the next week, then I'll be there Okay.
Speaker 1:You know, but there's a delegation that goes with 32 hands in New Orleans? No, I've never been. So it's bad Well it's not that I've never been and I don't know if you know.
Speaker 2:I'm happy that there is a party that is participating eight days in Papua and the language, to continue to make San Nicolas a cultural and heritage city. Do you know how important it is? Do you know how important it is Because normally you don't have a lot of people behind you? No, there's a plan for Otmar here, when we're boycotting and we're being misled. No, I want you to understand that facts are on the table and that's why I say you know Otmar, get things done and then, one day the best, most technological museum in the world is in Waterthorne, and then that's why I'm here.
Speaker 3:But you can't just do it like this.
Speaker 2:You can't do it like this.
Speaker 3:Mike, you can't do it like this. Mike and I are here to come up with this plan. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:We'll talk about that story later. Anyways, whatever, I just felt like I had to create all this. I'm just saying.
Speaker 2:Reality is we are looking for a place to stay. We are looking for a place to stay. We are looking for a place to stay. We are looking for a place to stay. We are looking for a place to stay. We are looking for a place to stay. We are looking for a place to stay. We are looking for a place to stay. We are looking for a place to stay. We are looking for a place to stay. We are looking for a place to stay. We are looking for a place San Nicolas, the ruins.
Speaker 2:For years, more than 20 years, we have been walking in the D&M, as I said, in the Copiano department. We have been walking all the time, walking industrial, you know, with the lights on the industrial tube. We started a project called Mural Project, amp, which started with me. Mural, who was in the front of the Ne, called we Culture. So it's a mural that I made. I remember the artist's name Trump Sufanta, with his face. And then I started the idea of hey, you know why not a Wynwood? Because I know a lot about painting and I know the culture of San Nicolas and heritage and the house and the things and everything. So I started a mural project. Tito Bolívar recognized me in every way, tito.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 2:I said I'm going to do it, it's time, it's the turn of the art fair. I supported it. I was not able to combine the art fair with the Caribbean Festival because I was not able to start it, so Tito played. I thought I was going to mention it. He fought until now. The government didn't want to come and continue. Continue. What vision do you have? Tell me, is there time? And now we have what we have in San Nicolas, which is the reason why we are going to San Nicolas. It's there the baby beach and it's part of the mural the culture that you have to get to know.
Speaker 1:I remember when I went with my friends in America. For me it was strange you don't pass the KAA what the fuck. I'm like this and they take me back to the boat and we're looking for a hotel with gold.
Speaker 2:We didn't make it. The hotel is opening. The hotel is opening. The whole tour is going to start with car rental, souvenir shops, tour operators, restaurants.
Speaker 1:When is it going to? What time will you open?
Speaker 2:March, March. I promise 360 rooms will be opened and, according to me, a year and a half later, the rest of the rooms will be opened.
Speaker 1:Nice I'm going to do an episode in a hotel with a full background view. I'm going to interview Erickson Torch to explain the benefits of the hotel.
Speaker 2:I'm not buying a day, yet I'm not even investing, yet what's going to? So, speaking of San Nicolas, okay, in San Nicolas and outside San Nicolas, there's a port of call for what could be a ferry between Antillas, between Aruba, corsoba and etc.
Speaker 1:It's like a garage that people play with and it comes down to ego.
Speaker 2:Okay, but what?
Speaker 3:This is a problem that San Nicolas has, so you know that it's a store but you don't know that it's open to a car parked right in front of you, and that's just it. You have to just deal with the effect and we end up not having traffic as is. So when we do finally have, we have to block it here. But we don't want to have a precarious. It's not part of it.
Speaker 2:We're going to pay for precarious and in San Nicolas it's more difficult to do precar of everything, the most difficult a district manager. The first thing we're going to do is to name a district manager in San Nicolas, but the type of problem we have here will be solved in a short time. In our program we're going to create a ministry, a LIM, which is a Ministry of Land, land and Forestry in the Ministry of Land and Forestry, which will tell you all the permissions to negotiate. If there are problems, you can say I want to put a umbrella in front of the place, I will go there, I will take it from the minister, but the door I will put in the idea of putting gas, I will put it in the minister's room.
Speaker 2:So if not three or four ministers, I will get frustrated and I will not do anything else. I will put it in my house. I will put it in my house. I will create facilities in San Nicolás. I we will create facilities in San Nicolas. We will create facilities in San Nicolas. We will create facilities in San Nicolas, but with rules that we are not following. So it doesn't happen that we are going to have to buy a place and change the style.
Speaker 2:Make it modern, and that's New Orleans we have to do it, and that's what we are doing, we are making the place more comfortable, the style is more present and with that we have to implement it, because before we think about the hotel that opens, we put lights, identity, san Nicolas.
Speaker 1:So what happens? Nobody's doing nothing. You know what would be fucking awesome If New Orleans was to be somewhere a little further from Main Street. There would be a big parking complex there, so it would be like a city. After 7pm, that specific road where your shop is like starting over there, going all the way up, it's gonna be closed. It's gonna be like a walk. It's kinda like New Orleans. You walk up and down the street it's like there's bars, restaurants, there's anything and whatever there's strip clubs.
Speaker 1:Sorry, but there's strip clubs down there like what the fuck? Bar, bar, bar, strip club, karaoke bar, restaurant, there you go.
Speaker 3:But it's such a fun, like bro, but that's the point of it. It's so awesome yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Finally yeah.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1:Exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly a place. Who the hell is going to bring a place to the same place with the same way to bring another place to change?
Speaker 1:the place.
Speaker 2:No, makes no sense it doesn't make no sense. And now Times Square. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know what place you have put it. In Times Square there are 7 or 8 places put it in, of course, right in front of the Renaissance, everywhere. Of course, of course, of course.
Speaker 1:Of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course. Of course, of course, of course, of course, of course, of course.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no no, no, I listen to Korn Limp Bizkit.
Speaker 1:I sing, I hand out suits and for you, Monsanto, I give you a kiss. I'm quiet. I don't have a music port, I'm just handing out suits, drinking, having fun.
Speaker 2:And we want you to give us a kiss.
Speaker 3:I agree, I think those permits are for strip clubs Built in the US. Foxy Lady is the only club in San Nicolas.
Speaker 2:But they don't give Ship permission. Bang Laura Manga and get things done.
Speaker 3:That's what we're waiting for, laura.
Speaker 2:Manga Get things done, okay, but Erick.
Speaker 3:Like speaking of Getting things done Like so in the past. This is for people Like your voters. I don't want to Vote for you. Eventually, right 24 hours On the other side Of the road, a full post, an article Over the Tomorrow. If it's going on, I don't know If it's going to Probably roll over To the day of election On the other side Of the road. I don't know who will vote. I don't know who will vote. I don't know what do you want to say to those voters, because I think that it makes no sense to vote for Otmar anymore, because what if I vote for him and then something happens and I don't win the election or whatever? I'm going to lose.
Speaker 2:To start with, that's not true. We are not forbidden in any moment to vote in the Aruba parliament until you're convicted. You're just defending your innocence. It is a myth that all people are talking about because Antawaco is not growing enormously. Now we make a decision to come with the PPA and the case is put on the date of the 18th, which is the day after the commissary. All people in Aruba know, all people who are interested in the case know that what we have is a political persecution.
Speaker 2:I'm so happy that finally, the case is here and that since yesterday, I read this article in the Koran and the comment I got was seriously, do this a joke? Is it true? I was conscious of it and I thought it was like God's hand with two people together with one election. All people are saying the opposite of what I was saying. People are saying really, I read that article 24 hours. It was about a field, a 1,800-field field in Copaduna, and you have a double booking in the department and if you have a double booking, you can also book it, because if you have a fault, you have a double booking and you have a department, you can book it. If you have a fault in the department For sure you can still go there that it was a fault of the department, which for sure the society still has to deal with. Do you realize what you're chasing? No sign of 7,000 pages, otmar. I don't know if it's not a flower 7,000 pages.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it's not a flower, I don't know if it's not any sale of any land, the way that I originally thought. I scrutinized three foundations of me. We scrutinized not only the foundation of my father and my personal, but also the time in the middle of the AFP. Nothing was done and, from the people that I met, the result was that the people that I questioned imagine that there was not a single person from the entire 7,000 pages here who doesn't know Marisol López-Trump or Marisol Trump, who is also a minister, who at that time didn't know how to lower the price of things that are incorrect in your place of time and who works as a minister for revenge, apparently with a lot of history, apparently with a lot of history, in the United States. Outside of that, there's not a single person who has made an accusation against my person.
Speaker 3:Nothing, but why do you think it's a beef? I don't understand. Like what's that about?
Speaker 2:It's about the fact that it started, especially in the year 2019, with the visa, that Otmar was selling commercial land, that Otmar had a $5 million account. Well, two accusations that's the point Two, and Otmar has his own truth. One of his accusations has nothing to do with it. So what does the public ministry think About me being a big fish? I don't know if it's true. The judge's accusation has nothing to do with it. So what happens to the public ministry? I have a big fish. Logically, I'm going to have a huge damage.
Speaker 2:At a certain point down the road, I start offering myself something hey, can we get to an agreement? I say, damn not, I'm not going to get to an agreement for nothing that I don't do. So two days are gone and it's a rule that I don't have to follow. But if I do and I'm waiting for the right time, I don't know if I don't want to comment and react to the report that I'm getting from me. I don't know if I'm waiting for the right time or not, if I don't wait for the right time or if I'm talking about something totally different from what I. So what is it?
Speaker 2:There is some accusation that there is a beef and it's not a beef, it's a reality. We don't know what it is, but it's solved. The other minister has, in June 5, with the party that has been out of jail. He has been with the minister and not with the minister. He goes to the parliament. The parliament says to put him down, because now the government is supporting us as a minister and now they're going to launch a search, or they're not going to launch a search, they're going to launch a search for Safe Face and they're going to say hey, what do you think about this?
Speaker 2:And they're going to tell you a lot of things and then they're going to stick to one thing that they're not going to talk about. And guess what? They have 37,000 pages. They don't have one person to tell them. And guess what? Not a beef at a personal level. A beef for the reason that it will teach something in the business. To create, as if there was something going on, an investigation to bring back the public ministry. Otmar, who is a guy who is looking for a plate with a monthly income of millions to create a commercial area with a way, sorry, commercial. No, I don't know Otmarco né Buta, que era um menesca de 1.800 terrenos na Ruba. Também eu olho para um terreno de casa privilegiar a gente of doing a gente Tende nunca me envolver, mais Me orgulloso sim so me tacana um da cutá na Ruba, um da cutá de 25 anos aqui. Então poxa.
Speaker 1:You know what that feeling is.
Speaker 2:Man guys, don't come into like endorsing anything but like no way, no way with endorsing the biggest endorsement of his campaign yeah he just confirmed that he's not bullshitting.
Speaker 3:That's the reality. No, I'm just saying, that's the reality.
Speaker 1:That's the reality. That's the reality. That's the reality, that's the reality that's the reality.
Speaker 2:That's the reality. No, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. I thought I'm going to stop playing. I didn't listen to anything. That's the whole Spain story. Like I'm in Spain, I'm in. Italy. Hey, I have A guy came to me and asked me to play.
Speaker 2:You were in the Ruba, I was in the.
Speaker 1:Ruba. I was playing because I was in the Ruba. I was with the when I was eight. I was waiting, since I was three.
Speaker 2:There you go, I've been waiting for five years to ask him and, believe me, I've never and never my dad has ever come to my house with a petition.
Speaker 1:No 100%. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:I was like who would do that. So I gave him a double booking. So what I did? I did it in court. It's crazy.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I was trying to put a real shit show, no, a complete shit show.
Speaker 2:PO. I was trying to put a fucking 8-year-old guy in there. I was trying to put a shit show. I was trying to put a shit show, but, kevin, what do I want to say? Fucking ocho lo de Guadalajara. I don't know, we have to leave this already.
Speaker 2:Pero que ven que me carabiné es parte de double booking enana Pa' baik corrigir Así no, no sense Que pasa como me nia a hacer lo que me queda me talta haciendo el departamento así, no transparente, así no creíble, contrario a lo que está ahora. I don't know what's going on right now. I don't know how I'm going to allow a fault of a department to harm someone who really deserves to go to jail. Another person goes to jail for X reason, so I don't know how I'm going to correct what you're doing. So, if I allow it, let's say it's a short day in the morning. I don't know how I'm going to say no if I'm going to say brother, hey, you know what I mean, I just said, I pushed him in and when I say I'm going to stop, let's say in two years nothing.
Speaker 2:commercial 1800 land a live example of a person who never talked to me. I don't even know if he's asked for a land, but hey, it's a deal, it's open, he's going to get it. It's on the right side, he got it and that's what.
Speaker 1:I'm going to do. He got it. Okay, we have to end this. It's got people waiting over here. It's normal guys, it's not that much Okay. But I want to say this again I hope that you will take the plan and the benefits of legalizing cannabis in Ruba. What did you say? Legalizing cannabis?
Speaker 2:I'm not allowed to say it, I don't want it, I don't believe it, I don't want to make it a nonsense that if a bank in a place has a corresponding bank, then we look for banks that don't have a corresponding bank but with an institutional parapsychosis, by the way, it's true, because in America, it's true, a commercial bank with a corresponding bank is not able to finance a 30-plus state or 50-plus state of America with such legalized marijuana. It's been 30 years since the legalization of marijuana. It's a financial institution.
Speaker 2:But in Aruba the central bank doesn't allow it. It's a policy. It's a policy that, if you don't make a bank.
Speaker 3:You have to have an institution that makes the money If you don't have a bank that rules you have to have an industry.
Speaker 2:I believe in the cannabis industry in Aruba. I've been there in various occasions, but I'm going to be responsible for it and I'm going to be even slower. I want to be outside the medicinal part. I want to have a certain sector in the industry. I want to be in the recreational part in every place but it's happening anyways so we better control it.
Speaker 1:And capitalize on it, of course.
Speaker 3:You're not going to get to legalize it In the meantime, if you make it. But what about decriminalizing it?
Speaker 2:At least With all due respect. But on the other hand, I don't want a person who you know my mom. Tomorrow she's going to have a hospital bed and then the person starts to give her medicine for X reason for her influence of whatever. I think it's against alcohol, I think it's decriminalization, I think it's part of alcohol. She gives her medicine twice, but sometimes it's a substance, not marijuana it's alcohol, it's kikuta.
Speaker 3:I think it's better if we don't do it 100% Alright.
Speaker 1:Thank you for your time.
Speaker 2:It was a great conversation, no, no.
Speaker 1:It was good. I like to hear From you Anything you want.
Speaker 3:I'll catch you next. I'll catch you next time. I hope you like push the river, but I have a lot of questions, but I'll catch you next time.
Speaker 1:I'll catch you next time.
Speaker 2:I hope you like push the river. But I hope you like push the river. But I hope you like push the river. But I hope you see you in.
Speaker 1:VR. I hope it's interesting. Yes, it's interesting. I hope you'll be able to see me in VR. I hope so. I hope you'll be able to see me in VR.
Speaker 2:I hope you'll be able to see me in VR. I hope so, I hope so, I hope so.
Speaker 1:Which is good, which is good, hopefully here.
Speaker 2:I hope so. I hope so. We have to incorporate all the people in our community. We have to incorporate the older people, the older adults, the pensioners who are drinking hard work at the moment, and include those who are suffering from the reason of the medicine that we are taking, because of the health of the system of the acid and the community as a whole, because of the cost of life that we have at the moment. Our party is guaranteed to eliminate BBO, even with a vehicle that is very expensive. Thank you. I'm sure that you and Admar and Pepe are ready to make a decision, but we don't know if the program will free Telecom, free a banking financing institution and make sure that the possibility of e-commerce in the future will be a reality. Vote for Pepe on December 6th.
Speaker 2:Awesome.
Speaker 1:Well, guys, if you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe, leave a comment. Leave a comment if you disagree or agree with Admar. Comment down below. We'll see comments in the out of the disagree of agree comment down below in the comment section. At the end of the day it's it's an open concept, have those opinion conversation and you know, like me and shark, we have our differences. We're still here. But anyways, guys, we'll see you next time, peace thank you guys.