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No Filter in Paradise
Evelyn Wever Croes: Lo sinta cu tur partido, menos AVP | EP 175
Nos a sinta cu Minister President Evelyn Wever Croes i a papia di differente Topico nan. E situation di Glember i Endy con esey lo affecta nan, Eagle LNG, jaarsrekening di Xiomara, cu cua partido lo sinta y mucho mas!
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With a more straight image of the people after the government has gone two ways and now with the situation of Glamour, andy and Bizarre in Bizarre.
Speaker 2:One thing people are going to go their way and they want to use their power. I want to show you that power is not important to me. What about the people?
Speaker 3:For Kiko and you. Kiko is protecting us. We're trying to get off of this, and now, with your baby on the ground, wow, two then wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow wow, wow.
Speaker 2:If so, do you feel like you're going to have to go to another coalition? Yes, I do. If so, do you feel like you're going to go? I don't know if I feel like going, unless I'm going to the AFP.
Speaker 1:Clear to travel hey yo what's up? Hola como estas Guys welcome back to the ABC Islands favorite podcast, no Filter in Paradise, a show, a very different show, a show about anything and everything between two friends. One is super mega straight and the other super duper, mega gay. Hey guys, today we have a special guest and we always say this all the time no filter, no show politico, alright, no show. Y dos amigos sin ta.
Speaker 3:Sorry, exactly, exactly. Stop explaining it. If you like it, leave. If you don't like it, don't be with us. That's just it.
Speaker 1:If you don't like it, don't be with us. If you don't like it, don't be with us. If you don't like it, don't be with us. If you don't like it, don't be with us. If you don't like it, don't be with us. If you don't like it, don't be with us. Good, awesome. Guys, this is the non-other than Menpress Aveline, waver Cruz, welcome.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Thank you Good afternoon. Thank you for the opportunity.
Speaker 1:No thank you for coming Of course.
Speaker 2:So how's the campaign?
Speaker 1:going.
Speaker 2:It's going well. It's going well. It's a bit difficult to combine work and campaign.
Speaker 1:I can imagine, but it's going well, it's going to be good.
Speaker 2:It's going to be good. A couple of days more.
Speaker 1:I'm not a bitch. I'm not a bitch, it's okay. I'm like I got a whole island to run, but it's okay, I'm not a bitch.
Speaker 3:I'm not a bitch. I'm not a bitch. I'm not a bitch, I'm not a bitch, I'm not a bitch, I'm not a bitch.
Speaker 2:I'm not a bitch I'm.
Speaker 3:If you know the truth, then no. All right.
Speaker 2:All right, all right, all right All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right. So let's start with our icebreaker by ProFrame. That's messy. That's a good icebreaker, I love it. I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it.
Speaker 2:I love it. I love it I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it. I love it. I love, but I don't know actually, no, sorry, I didn't understand.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's fine, that's fine, Otmara is going to be a delight.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay, but who for Eveline, for Havaraka? Obviously there are two or three people who stand out in the debate, pablo.
Speaker 2:Okay, Otmara stands out.
Speaker 3:I don't want to get too used to her anymore because she's been out of the running for a while not get used to it because it's out of the running with time it's been very sharp.
Speaker 2:It shows that it's prepared for a different topic. Of course, it's another thing that changes. It's a case it's going to depend on you. It's going to depend on you. You know, who draws my attention is a lot of people the female rival of PPA, who is nervous. She's genuine, she's genuine. She puts us genuine. I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1:I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree. But with her hand she's fucking good, yes, so the way Evelyn Explained, she showed Like hey, dude, I'm perfect, I can solve some problems and at least help. But I'm here Accepting and doing Hit Mentally Calm, I'm fine, and if I hit too much I can't do anything. So Okay, she's aware that she hits.
Speaker 3:But it was good. Oh, I'm just Okay, it was good.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's just taking it for a minute.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, you should be a bit more prepared.
Speaker 3:Yes, I understand I'm going to be a bit more prepared to make sure that I'm going to do some speech and all these type of trainings as well. But I understand that time is short and I'm going to go to the government.
Speaker 1:We're laughing but it ain't funny. I will again, but I'll be a step back. I'll be a step back. I'll be a step back. I'll be a step back. If you want one person, links or Rex, it's not Links, but Rex. How do you think? Aveline and her team, who do you want?
Speaker 2:And you're part of it too. No Links, obviously so messy, but I'm going to be a PPA candidate.
Speaker 3:I'm very young.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm genuine, but I'm just authentic.
Speaker 3:I'd like to say one thing. If you have the opportunity to, All right, all right.
Speaker 1:What are your three accomplishments that you're proud of in the last three years? Here we go.
Speaker 2:It's not my achievement, it's the achievement of our team of the government along with the entire Aruba, but as a guide it's always been a great accomplishment.
Speaker 2:Aruba is more stable than it was three years ago. Another achievement that is important, even if it's a little smaller, is that my ministry is working on innovation. A project close to my heart is digitalization of teaching. So through my Ministry of Innovation we help schools and in the last three years we have done a project called Edutac. We have two. We have four hundred thousand flowers available, so schools can write in for a project of innovation that is not loaded For me. In the first office we have approached four pilot schools, but now we have approached them for an innovation project that is not loaded For me. In the first office we approached four pilot schools, but now we are approaching one load. But if the government approaches a school that is not loaded, it is not loaded.
Speaker 2:So, we are going to go back Go back.
Speaker 2:So now we are going to go to ADTAC. We are not going to register, I don't know. Yeah, and we have a plate, and now we are launching a project with DOA, an Iris Go, an innovative thing in accordance with a car, that is an apparatus and the apparatus says hey, walk here, there's a hole, a hole, a hole. So this is how we are going to do it. So we are doing an inventory, we are capturing data and then in six hours we are going to bring the travel plan. So now, if we can go and there's a Thank you, philip, thank you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. I like the model With Dewey. With Dewey, he's In the back At night, yes, which for me, thank fucking god, it's so much better Because I, honestly, I didn't even stop. I was like what the fuck? Like, what do you mean?
Speaker 3:You're so used to the bad roads. So Correct, correct.
Speaker 1:I like it when I'm working At night With Dewey, whoever's in it, saves time.
Speaker 3:I know yes.
Speaker 1:You went to that event, right? She was there too. Yeah, amazing, I wish I went. I didn't know about it.
Speaker 2:Stop, stop. I wish I went. I didn't know about it. I did two calls with a tech lab. I promise I'll be there in Sabaneta. It's super interesting. In the last six or seven cycles. Imagine what I did. I signed a project with a waiter who was expensive, expensive for underhoud, for buying material. I signed in for five 3D printers plus material. They also had cups.
Speaker 2:They had a sticker on the back with a sticker on the back with cups and a sticker on the back with an iron on the t-shirt so they can sell it and then they generate money.
Speaker 1:I love that. That's crazy entrepreneurship exactly Philomena Mavo is taking time we have an after school Entrepreneurship. I feel like it shouldn't be Like an after school thing. It should be During your school, because which is good?
Speaker 3:But no, they make us psych Like after hours, which is good, but the older people Don't. If you really Analyze the life you have, the working woman Now exists Feminists, I think we don't have A stay at home housewife no, we have a lot Of young people In the house, so we don't have A lot more If you're taking care Of the kids. She also has a job and a life. She's not out there to just be whatever you want, do whatever you want. This after-school program is actually very much needed. It's actually maybe even affordable or free. I think it's really good.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's very important. You can also deal with social problems like really good.
Speaker 3:For sure.
Speaker 1:I agree. If you have a problem you want to solve tomorrow, the cost of living is high, it's expensive in Aruba, but you know you can import things right.
Speaker 2:You can import inflation, you can import problems, but you can't import them. So now we have to import less and produce more. That's why we have to focus more. I have a business with the government, with the government of Africa, Africa with Ursel. I work in agriculture.
Speaker 1:Correct.
Speaker 2:And I always approach I'm a member of the Agribusiness Academy without the entrepreneurs without an agricultor, you can't be an entrepreneur.
Speaker 1:That's it.
Speaker 2:If you plant, you can't be an entrepreneur.
Speaker 1:Correct, and you're part of HACI. You're part of.
Speaker 2:Run the Business and finances Correct.
Speaker 1:I like, I like the initiative that you have to invest, to localize, how to handle your business. To you know. To talk about what you said last time about the accounting school, as in, not an XLS as in, it's a mandatory to see how to handle taxes, how to handle the business, how to handle the business. Yes, but there's accounting that, like I'm like, oh, you're afraid I'll be saying pay attention. I'm like you're afraid, don't worry, I'll be paying attention to what you're doing for me. I'm like I don't want to do anything. I'm going to do it, but I will pay attention to the English account. But it goes further than just checks and balances. I'm like you're managing.
Speaker 2:And deadlines. Oh my God.
Speaker 3:And also school also needs to mimic reality. So don't tell me to do it in a book and then say, okay, figure it out, but let's put it in practice.
Speaker 2:Let's put it in practice. Let's put it in practice. Let's put it in practice. Let's put it in practice. Let's put it in practice. Let's put it in practice. Let's put it in practice.
Speaker 3:Let's put it in practice. Let's put it in practice.
Speaker 2:Let's put it in practice.
Speaker 1:Let's put it in practice.
Speaker 2:Let's put it in practice. Let's put it in practice, let yeah, of course, 100% Cute, but 100%. I agree that the bigger the beer, the more it needs financial literacy. That's something that our central bank is paying attention to and if you want to, you can do it. So if you're going to school, you don't know what you're doing in the money week with innovation. If you're going to school, you don't know what financial literacy is. What do you want to spend? What is important to bring to the budget? It's simple you have to have a budget. If I want to participate, how much money do I have to participate? Okay, a thousand florins. How do I get a thousand florins? You can see in the plan. Another thing I can see is how much it costs. Okay, let's say I work in a group, so I have to prepare a costume for them. How much do I have to pay? If I don't know, I have to pay more or less.
Speaker 1:Correct who said this Michelle, michelle, correct over this more like incorporating our culture more than.
Speaker 3:Mr King also talked about this during the reactivo he also mentioned, but I don't know the teaching.
Speaker 3:I feel like there are various different things we really have to tackle in science. One thing I want to ask, aveline, is what plan map or do you have a plan for what concerns sexual health, because I feel like there's a case not a case. There's a big thing going on. Shout out to the family of Plania, but Sex education is extremely important. What is the plan to start implementing this? What is the youngest age that I? It should be appropriate Normal life journey.
Speaker 2:But this is well. It's a box, if you know what I mean. But the next project is a project that is very important for the people of Papua sexual education Five. It's something, it's a polemic, it's something that's necessary for many people at this point. Details, details, a minute. I'm not going to say a minute, a minute. Mino Sá.
Speaker 3:Mino Sá, pero ya.
Speaker 2:Pero arriba, el detalle de mi juego es que cada gente es responsable por el ministerio. Pero el atrezo es el plan. Sí, pero aprobar el plan, estar de acuerdo con él, dejar el bon que está así y nuestro guardo, informar a la mejor familia, planear y con el caballero, Okay, good, my next question, big on education.
Speaker 3:I love it. ¿qué plan nos tiene en place para que mucho nos especial Like on the spectrum? I feel like they get a little bit of help y después te llegan un cap y después ok, familia, no se tiene nada más de así. Una no está bayando que está aquí, pero no está fácil para el mayor.
Speaker 2:Y it costs a lot. Lo que nos falta de full en nuestro sistema. It's not easy to grow up here and it costs a lot. Yes, it changes the way we teach, but at least in some way. But we are not at a certain age. With the new school, our help is bigger than the one in Hiena and Bashi and it's bigger than the one in Mesa and Saki. We are trying various projects and we are trying to do it, but the intention is to be institutionalized. We are trying to be in the system For me. Andy is working with the minister and he is bringing up a three-step project and a three-step plan to change the teaching system. Some are now executing the work and some are still in the pipeline. This is one of them. This is a special under-rise, but in its fourth phase. This is on paper and is not yet executed.
Speaker 2:So our job is to help families with the initiative as soon as possible is a that's good, has a level of experience and it attracts our attention.
Speaker 2:I have a commission with Amelante from my ministry, called Inclusion Commission, to do an inclusive teaching. An inclusive teaching that I think gives a lot of opportunities, a lot of opportunities for young people, but it has a pull-out system. So if a young person, for example, is not blind, for example, is thinking that if who went to Venezuela, for example, he has a school, you don't propose a lot of things from a class that you have read in Dutch because you are not so good, you pull it out and you have a time of a parallel structure, a prism structure. Before the hour with a sufficient level, you pull it back, and that's what I think.
Speaker 3:And funding-wise, what does that mean for funding? No, it's bigger, All right that's good.
Speaker 2:At the moment when it becomes part of the system, the cost of the major work is considerably lower.
Speaker 3:The cost of the whole health is normal.
Speaker 2:You know now that it's private, it's not that expensive. Last last, I'm sorry, Last.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:We've got like an hour and a half to go. Take your time. What's the plan for the teachers, because they also have a very big job to do and it's not easy to deal with a class of 30 or 25, and also, if you get a cap or if you get a 30-year-old. What is the planning for HACI? Different? And they also have a lot of funds to make HACI a class that is more fun and not like a lot of people give up or whatever.
Speaker 2:There are different things. Let me start with the older class. The older class is actually becoming smaller because our population is becoming smaller. At the moment there is no advice from the Minister of Education, but it's possible to close the school and close the class, so it's probably much better. But no, our class is becoming smaller. So we don't know how many teachers there are, but instead of 28, little by little and she goes to 23 or 24 now there are some schools that are still more than 24, but the idea is that all of them One teachers with a salary, which is true. There is an old system of salary with a maximum of 38 years. That is one of the projects that we are planning, so it is completely clear that we are in the Ministry of Human Resources to make a final decision without involving the trade union of the teachers and without pushing the people to do it Now that we are looking.
Speaker 2:I remember that the teacher agreed with me, but there was not much discussion. The discussion was at the time of the payment and then I had to take a look at it. So I had to go to the 25th and if I had not come. I would have had to work on it for a month or two or three weeks, I promise you, in December. And then I had to work on it again. But I didn't want to work on it, so I promised to work on it one more year, there's nothing. And then I go to another school and then I go to another school and then I go to another school and then I go to another school and then I go to another school and then I go to another school and then I go to another school and then I go to another school and then I go to another school and then I go to another school and then I go to another school and then I go to. Sorry, last thing.
Speaker 3:Sorry, I was the last one to teach.
Speaker 2:Welcome to the Shark Show. I'm sure I'll teach later.
Speaker 3:But what protection do we have in place for the teacher? Because we have a big shift from back in the days. Something happened to the teacher like my mom was in school and together we both were attacked a lot. But what do we have when the teacher comes to school to play with the teacher, because we don't like him to play with you or whatever?
Speaker 2:Yes, but I'm a chef and time is running out. Time is running out and people are younger and younger. It's incredible, isn't it, when you get home and you get a penalty. It's unfair because you get a penalty too.
Speaker 1:You get more. There are soft people today.
Speaker 2:Yes, program a care structure. I put a care structure. Now that we are in school. It works better to protect the children. The children have social problems. They don't help now, but I'm already a teacher, so I put a care for the teachers and protection with what they feel. It's something that we focus on, because sometimes we are in a center with a poor boy, but sometimes the light in my first office stops and then they don't feel anything. But they don. They do a lot and I love them.
Speaker 1:They really love their job the reward isn't matching, like all the stuff at all.
Speaker 3:No, okay anything else, I'm done with the teaching. I'm done for the lesson. Shout out to the lesson Okay, good Again.
Speaker 1:I just remembered that you asked if you want to send via email, dms, whatever. So if you want to talk with us, don't do it. Please Don't bring us With me. Yes, no, blame the people. Who's watching, by the way?
Speaker 3:I saw her send us a message that she was going to go to the police station. No, no, that's what he said. But go on, go on.
Speaker 1:But I also saw her so when I inform her she becomes suspicious right, my friend, I'm going to carry you, but Evelina is doing it through social media, not internally like.
Speaker 2:No, but I'm not supposed to do it internally, I'm not doing it here with the Public Ministry. That's basic right. It's good, but imagine something like that when Evelina visits you Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because Glamour is.
Speaker 3:It's not like I'm going to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:Why are you laughing? What the fuck she's like, I told you.
Speaker 1:Why are you laughing? What the fuck are you laughing?
Speaker 3:at. She's like I told you Okay, seta, uno, seta 2021.
Speaker 1:Correcto.
Speaker 2:So I was like what's my fault? Did I say?
Speaker 1:it no, no, no, no, man man.
Speaker 2:People, people. I don't have any responsibility. I can do it, but I can't do anything else. Now, what happens is it's our debate.
Speaker 3:It's our debate.
Speaker 2:It's our agreement. Yeah, power is not important, but we have to bring this base to the word integrity, that is important. So I'm going to talk about something else. Today we're going to look at the map. Unfortunately, we're going to have a case of investigation. Of course, Andy didn't have an investigation. Andy didn't have an investigation. Andy, now he's going to have a foundation, so he has the right steps. What happens is that Andy is in Parliament and even in June he decided that he wouldn't go, but he gave a full explanation at the meeting. There was no investigation, nothing that he did wrong, but nothing that was important. And Andy's case Is with Allegedly your stepson.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, but stepson, let me be honest, clarify, baby, not a lot of people ask Andy. As a matter of fact, I don't know if you know Andy at 13. Andy at 13 came in from the Berserk and I was like I'm going to be honest. He said, okay, put it here, put it in the bag. Yes, I'll bring Andy. And it's true, it's all the sports financing.
Speaker 2:they brought the Olympic Committee, so they were all in the same place, so it seemed like a right match, a draw. Yeah, what happens is that it's very unfortunate, and it's not like Papi is good either and he's not pretending to be like that either.
Speaker 2:One thing I always see is that if someone does something wrong, they have to be very careful and take care of what they're wearing. So it's not like that. They don't even know what we're talking about. So I'm talking about the end. The end is different. We don't have an investigation on the budget.
Speaker 2:At a certain point, bessaril was appointed minister in the Netherlands and there was an indication that everything was going well, but then they put an investigation in the Central Accountant's Office and they did an investigation and now they sent Bessaril back. So if you don't have an investigation now, you won to send them back. So we are going to put them in the office and they are going to stay there. I'm going to come back and I'm going to ask them to come back and two more things that I'm going to investigate with them. Now the office is clear. I'm going to the parliament, but the parliament is going to be full of cases that never happened before. And I'm going to the public ministry. I'm going to the public.
Speaker 2:You took the rights that morning. I remember 10 days, but I was on a list. I remember it was a terrible list. I didn't know. It was a terrible list. So I was thinking, oh, I'm crumbling down now. But I was worried and actually I didn't understand very well. I didn't understand what I was expecting. I stayed there for two or three days and I didn't ask anyone else, or at least for me she was in the same place.
Speaker 3:I was in the same place, which he did. You can't run. So, andy, if Andy's poor.
Speaker 2:And then you think, okay, it's unfortunate, but what I'm saying is that I take pride in it. I know the Pope, I have to advance. You're here with the rules, you have to speak, and I don't have the head to say what it is. But I'm not hiding it, I'm not suspicious, I'm not saying that I'm innocent.
Speaker 1:I'm proving guilty.
Speaker 2:I'm giving you space. I'm not going to be a band band. I didn't want to have any stain on the party, on the government, on the Senate. It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. I knew I was going to die, but at least it was done with our deal. We were like no, you don't know how to do it. Yeah, yeah. I remember a piece of electronic and I was like, exactly, I was.
Speaker 1:Where it's going to go. You have a question? No, you go, you go. She ready I'm going to say, ah, the question is mild. No, again, I'm going to say the question what's going on? I don't know how to say it. Topic, topic, I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it.
Speaker 2:Okay, I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. It's okay, not a boom. Okay, you're more than your company, but you've already bought it too. Correct. What happens is that we've already bought it.
Speaker 2:We have a big delay in different matters that have to do with finances. We have a budget that has to be delayed. We have to go in and say we have a budget that has a deficit. We have to go in and say we have a quarter with a high level of parliament and CFD. We have a year of absence. The only thing we lack is a full year of accounting. We have different projects in finance.
Speaker 2:We have one that we can't fully understand. We can't imagine how much it will change in June. We have to look closer. We have a year of absence since 2019. It's after Santa. Since 2019, there's a process. What I'm saying now, now that we're planning for September, another year is coming. So the election is in June. We're planning, we have a lot of hope for about 2025, when we're done, but unfortunately we don't have it. But you can imagine how many barriers we have to overcome and how much. And I was able to hold it for another year, september and I noticed that I found something, because if I see a government in a new month, I don't know how many years it will take. And I noticed that I found something, but the timing was bad.
Speaker 3:So there was never one in place at all.
Speaker 2:But I know a lot of people in the government and I pay a lot of attention to finances. I think we have deficits of 300 million, 400 million, 500 million. We don finances. I think we're going to have deficits of 300 million, 400 million, 500 million, but half the time COVID. But other than that, no, it's not a very hot topic and now it's not a worry much. It should be double Now. In the Netherlands it's very busy in 2004. Hey, the government is not pursuing it.
Speaker 1:They put it almost on the edge of the bank.
Speaker 3:Now you're so Mike mentioned. So now you're talking with the Netherlands and the Netherlands is listening to you and it's going to work out and you have to, for a while, convert it into funds that you can use to reinvest within a town the Netherlands says no, they're all sort of degraded what. That's why they already did it. I have to re-register.
Speaker 2:You're talking with me in a meeting with the Secretary of State the. Secretary of State has to re-register what. That's why going to do it. I don't know what it is, I don't know, but we have a recurring agenda to convert it into an investment fund. And they say no, no, no, no, but we have to give up. Honestly, I've never been to the Netherlands like this, but I'm going to do it without leaning on them to give us the fund we don't want a plaque back.
Speaker 1:So if they lend it to, us.
Speaker 2:We can go to them and tell them that we are interested in it. Not that, but we can go. We don't want to lose it.
Speaker 3:We always want it. We are Dutch.
Speaker 2:But we will give it as a gift If they don't have.
Speaker 3:But isn't that a fact that they don't trust the management of the map, the AVPC?
Speaker 2:No, no, no, I don't trust the AVPC. I don't trust the AVPC or Mike Wendrick, who is in the audience. I don't trust. Mike has an interview with Donner Mr Donner, but I don't know him. So I don't trust that Mike's plan is not being realized Because politics is different Now that we have a government that provides us with a way to help, to give, to know each other less, or even less.
Speaker 3:I don't know about you, but I don't know about you, but I don't know about you.
Speaker 2:But I don't know if it's true. I don't know if it's true.
Speaker 3:Okay, but then we're in immediate need of a different economic pillar or something. Okay, man, your people are suffering so you can't get here and you're still suffering. Can you make sure this is not going to continue? Roll over to 2025 and then on?
Speaker 2:Well, it's a projection of how its economic growth is going to be. With surplus, it's growing economically. More tourists as well. There's more money behind. That's why Angelic is generating extra funds with this. But why?
Speaker 3:Who's bringing but for whom? Who is bringing tourists here to the service?
Speaker 2:No, no, no what.
Speaker 2:I'm saying is that the amount of belasting is surplus and it's not necessary to press a growth of Aruba going forward. It's true that we have double-digit growth in the Traylombo and in the Zealand. We don't have double-digit growth in the Traylomba and in the Zelandes. We don't have double-digit growth anymore. But we have growth and I'm happy that we have double-digit growth. It's an overheating economy. We don't want to grow too much, we don't want to handle it. But the economic pillar that we have is that we have to change our model of tourism. Tourism Pilar economico con nos cimester, nos cinco cambia nos modelo de turismo Turismo. No queda un pilar, pero un otro modelo, un modelo low impact, high value, un turista mas afluente con trece placas, con la placa atras. Turismo turista con gusto estima nos naturaleza, nos medio ambiente, nos cultura. Ita huelen para conservar. Se hay que son con los marketing tengo que dirigir y bajar.
Speaker 3:Entonces una vez los, I love that we live here.
Speaker 1:I think I'll pay this way, which I recommend you to pay, correct?
Speaker 2:Yes, one year and two years, correct, correct. So there's no fee.
Speaker 3:So if you want to walk here you can look for a more affluent tourist, correct, correct.
Speaker 2:Correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct, correct. Invert more, for example, windmills, solar panels, green hydrogen, which is something promising, not short term, but a little longer term. We also have LNG for transition fuel, which also helps us a little, and, together with the World Bank, we have an inventory of six promising sectors with a lot of aim, which we will goal to diversify the economy.
Speaker 3:I don't know if you know what I'm saying. I don't know what you're saying.
Speaker 1:We're going to talk about it.
Speaker 2:No no, no, I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 1:No, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I don't know. There's also the orange economy. It's already developed, it's been going on. And to also tackle the issue with tourism, about Samil mentioned that you travel a lot, but if you invest in A specific type of tourism Like hey, guess what? We have an activity here In Aruba in the next two months You're attracting A group of people who expect the time to come To know how much it will cost To reach the opportunity To go. It's now Fully based on social media and that's what we're about. Correct, you have all of this. All you have to do Is just invest and not even a big amount.
Speaker 1:Small amounts. I think you're talking about the gaming events, right?
Speaker 3:That medical. There's so many different options. Hey, wagner, we're doing a conference for doctors or becoming doctors, that's a convention. We're going on Comic-Con, even for the comic. They love this type of shit. Yes.
Speaker 2:What the World Bank has identified is the orange economy and medical tourism Blue economy, knowledge economy, agriculture, food security, portando como pillar para export y logistics. Logistics is a hub function, which has identified another big thing it didn't have a It'll hurt you exactly what time.
Speaker 3:Agri-funds Check the dealers now Right.
Speaker 1:Correct, but I think again, there's an area that I think is in favor of it, but like gaming community, like too much gaming. In America, the gaming tournament is massive, south America, massive Asia. In Abu Dhabi, saudi Arabia, there's an island literally specifically for a gaming hotel and they host the biggest tournaments blah blah, blah blah. In Aruba, in the Caribbean, there's a gaming hub or a gaming tournament.
Speaker 1:Imagine that Caribbean Cup. Imagine you're influenced by the game. You're hungry oh my God. I'm at the beach. Influencers in games that are good oh my god. I'm at the beach, I'm swimming and at night I'm competing In one of the biggest Caribbean tournaments In the world, so it affects All the influencers that are good at it. In the month that I'm competing For a big pot, instead of paying An influencer that is from New York To pay so many Millions and millions of dollars, put it in a pot Like it's not being a robot, like it's not paying for a flight, like it's not paying for a hotel. But it's a big ass festival here. Do a tournament For robots and it's a big influence here too, and everybody's. Oh my god. Nate Shaw, from a team like this, is going to do a lot of work, and when robots Invest in Influencers, they come and they bring more people, more, more family, more gaming. So you have a pool of $20,000.
Speaker 3:And also the majority of them are underage. They're living with their parents, with their parents Beach restaurant. They're all over, spending all around.
Speaker 1:And the marketing effect. Again, I'm going to use the portal. Oh my god, who knows you? Romeo Santos, it's a person that's in a video.
Speaker 2:What's the reason?
Speaker 1:For not investing in that. I would imagine that there's a, two or three Big gamers that are always Living in the world Of social media. They post and they don't Face it. They post and they don't Look good In the post or in the post, so it affects the See great. We have so many Millions of followers. We have thousands of people Because of the post. It affects the bigger it spills over the Marketing of the bigger. At least that's how I see it. So do you have A better idea, brother?
Speaker 2:You heard it here first. It's not a bad idea, it's a good idea.
Speaker 3:It's up for sale. It's up for sale. It's up for sale.
Speaker 2:Implemented yes and don't have a credit, please yes, when there's a statue that I'm eating somewhere. Okay, okay, no.
Speaker 1:For a gaming tournament In the Caribbean. You don't have it but if you have an idea About the Orange Economy.
Speaker 3:Is there anything else you want to add? I'm sorry, I'm good on that.
Speaker 1:Yes, Anything Avelina can add Over the Orange Economy. No, I don't want to.
Speaker 2:I can't ask for a hobby.
Speaker 1:With art, but I don't want to come to you. No, no, no.
Speaker 3:No, no, no. This is our job, this is our job. This is our job. This is our job, this is our job, this is our job. This is our job. This is our job, this is our job. This is our job, this is our job, this is our job, this is our job.
Speaker 1:This is our job. This is our job, this is our. There's a lobby, there's a room and you a tourist. Everything you see here is for sale.
Speaker 3:It's for sale and it's all locally owned Everett restaurant.
Speaker 1:Everett restaurant. First of all, there's a restaurant. You can participate today. You can train. There's artwork, Everything is there for sale and the restaurant has 0% of ganache, oh wow. So it goes fully to cool, like if all the artists In lugar de tragar Glass. Everything you see here Is up for sale. But when you say Can I take that one Hotel? To wrap it up, here's a box Approved Pa America, whatever Pa Baza, via Duana US Customs, and it gets approved. Great Another way to support Orange economy, and it gets approved.
Speaker 1:Great, another way to support Orange Economy, definitely For sure, let's switch to a hot segment.
Speaker 3:Let's go, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:So hey look at this.
Speaker 3:You don't want to tell me Go ahead, you got time, I know.
Speaker 1:You got time. Okay, let's go All right. So we have two questions from Arata. You have three. Your question is how would your government help solve the labor shortage that exists in all the economic sectors?
Speaker 2:manejo pa gente na ruba con nota estatus legal, pero com a 30, a ruba na forma legal pa na jaia un estatus legal Anteora eu botei.
Speaker 2:De repente, un grupo grande de gente com nos ajata members. Na por jace, uso de je Paso na simplemente no que trago gente con nota legal. Desedo para la brachón caba den ejecu. Little time, but by chance I would like to ask you to do something with the rock that you are in charge of working with the law to do.
Speaker 2:In general, there is a management called Alternative Legal Pathway, where people who are not documented are illegal for one reason or another, but they are not in a legal way because they are going to go there. And now if someone put a job and someone signs it, they put it in the house and it's a permit because it's a law. If it's not legal, it's not allowed, but the management makes an exception and now it's not legal to legalize, and that's what I know. There's a big discussion about how many people have illegal things. Unhcr has a number about 16,000. Unhcr has been talking about 16,000 people from Venezuela, legal and illegal. If you take a portion of Venezuelans who are registered in a legal sense, we are talking about 5,000 undocumented population, over 5,000, which is something that the government has given me a non-legal status to legally contribute to the blessing, contribute to the prize of the Alvin Asset Fee, and that's what I want.
Speaker 1:Agreed, that's for sure.
Speaker 3:Well, this was on labor shortage, right, yeah, okay, but Erin, how does this help the labor shortage? Because we're moving from one hole. How does this help the labor shortage? So somewhere is still short the employees.
Speaker 2:I mean how do you transition the horeca? I mean, how do you transition?
Speaker 2:the construction to Horeca Like keep that cushion up for me. No, no, no, no. I thought I had a job with a man-based holding. I was visiting a few days ago at the Hotel St Regis when I was working and I was informed that a large part of the work that I was working on in construction in the local, and I was informed that a large part of the women who were working in construction, who were local, were staying with us to work in hotels. As a matter of fact, the lady who guided me was working in construction. So you know where she came from. She was working in Superfood. She was working in Superfood. She had a job in construction. She never saw her in construction and now she saw her, and now she's staying to handle part of housekeeping, certain floors. And you see, centriges tells us do what we can do, help us with the rehabilitation. So I think Ibero is presenting something similar, but Ibero sends us to another country by train.
Speaker 2:They send us to San Domingo to a hotel and we go by train to Mexico, so we're not bringing it to the same place. But really, if you put it in your hand, the Mexico, so if you're not bringing that car, it's true, if you're a person, that the only thing you're going to do is hit a wall. Well, for surf, for example, but most people can't do that.
Speaker 1:Well, when I brought a new hotel to school, when. I was like, hey, you know, two years, no more construction. You can no more construction. He's not going to bring it in the day. But a school hotel it's not like one two hours If it's in time, because you never know, people don't have enough money nowadays.
Speaker 3:At all To pay for a school hotel.
Speaker 2:Well, now that I'm not thinking about it, I'm thinking about it in the city as well as in Ibero. I've brought it in until I can but the hotel hasn't opened yet.
Speaker 1:Correct Nice nice To do so nice. See, yeah, chance, I'm going to walk you Sneaking. Be, nice, I work here, I'm not a fan of hotels.
Speaker 2:I'm not a fan of the Eagle strip. Tabasta no, definitely Tabasta. But I mean I have a hobby. But just walking projects for me is a hobby. Nice, just the project I'm working on is a nice hobby and it's very upscale. But I like to come with a tent. Yeah, that's why I'm not really a vacationer. But they have a suite with their own pool and in the country, they have a suite with their own butler. So it's a very high-end place, Say the Butler service.
Speaker 1:I see it on Crystal the Wanderlust.
Speaker 2:Do you?
Speaker 1:ask the second question already the over-tourism? I don't think so, Sorry. One more question from Ata what is your vision for Aruba's economic pillar tourism, considering to avoid over-tourism.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you know, but I want you to know that now we have changed our model. I don't know if you know, but now we have changed our model. We are doing a study on how we are going to bring over tourism and the focus is on high value, low impact and to consider a more affluent tourist, To consider more people who appreciate the environment, appreciate culture and to embrace them. To appreciate the environment, to appreciate the culture of the company. So the marketing has to start and the clothes are expensive.
Speaker 1:If we don't do it, the clothes are a little more expensive for us it's kind of like what you said, but it's kind of like filtered out again. It's not bad, but it's filtered out and people don't want to wear clothes.
Speaker 2:People don't want to make more.
Speaker 1:People like that either Correct, but we don't want less entry like that. Correct. So now, yeah, it's that way, but you're going to make hotels that can go up planes no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, but I don't know. Entry fee.
Speaker 2:Now and I want to do Marketing. The marketing Is directed and I know it's a champion, so I have confidence that I will do it. Change and model. So if a tourist Is looking for a vacation and I want Between a hotel Of $300 or $700, and I want $300, I will also Offer Airbnb $25.
Speaker 1:No, that between a $300 hotel and $700, and you want $300 and you don't want to buy a room, or if you want an Airbnb for $25.
Speaker 2:No, that's another thing. Airbnb is a good one, it's a topic that you can't control.
Speaker 1:It's pretty much a free-for-all market Like oh for a tourist, a condo in New York that costs $1 million. You buy a room a million, like 5 minutes from the beach and pay for it in Vasconal and then the end of the rent is a little bit cheaper. So still, we have to hire and start, because if we don't want to pay it's a lot of money we have a law in preparation to regulate Airbnb.
Speaker 2:If it doesn't work, the law will be in force on January 1st 2025.
Speaker 1:So we have to regulate Airbnb If a person has an air park and they have an apartment in their house and the person here is renting it. They can see it here.
Speaker 2:They can ignore it, they can change their mind, they can go to the store.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't have a way with. Again, like a tourist is buying properties, has Airbnb condos, condos for sale? I don't know, but there's no way with a again, like 100 days I'm not going to buy properties as Airbnb condos, condos for sale, and then the locals are like no two things.
Speaker 2:One is regulation of Airbnb to sell, but more is another comment. That is quality correct so now your people. There comes a moment where you. Correct, correct A standard. Correct. Correct. Correct. Based on location yes, yes, or a sea view Correct.
Speaker 1:Based on location and amenities.
Speaker 2:Yes, and it also helps if you have an Airbnb and you don't have to register, you don't have to have a permit, and if you don't have time to register, you don't have to do business.
Speaker 1:Correct.
Speaker 2:It also helps for people who have apartments in their home, if they have an Airbnb and their apartment is residential, like ours. Actually, if you want to do a residential area, you can change it to commercial, but through regular things you can do a grace period and you can regulate it. So existing situations, costs that exist, you can recognize, you can regulate, you can change your population when you want to do it.
Speaker 1:The reason I'm asking you is I think it's an extra income for a family. I'm in Tura, ceiba, tarrasco, and then that money goes to paying your mortgage, so it's I love it. My opinion is that when I go to church, a person is like, hey, I need so much space to heal. I need a nice Airbnb with a nice little rooftop, a tourist for rent, and then I need to help cover my mortgage, my water bill, and then my family can pay for school, pay for whatever right Vacation I think that's what we know school health, whatever vacation.
Speaker 2:I think you know what I mean. Rubiano is more creative, so there's a way to make Rubiano more creative with his own assets.
Speaker 3:Sure.
Speaker 2:If you have an Airbnb regulation, like you do in the past, you can stimulate the local business and you can stop the non-local business. So you say I have a law, I'm going to have a take up. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. People are already buying our property and the price is still quite high. Tomorrow, you have a house for a million, a million, a million, a million, a million, a million, a million, a million, a million, a million, a million, a million, a million, a million, a million, a million, a million a million, a million yeah.
Speaker 2:Agreed Definitely yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And hotel rooms, yeah, okay, okay. So, tange, do you feel like it's a problem?
Speaker 3:with the hotel that's paid fair. No, it's not. Well, it much. Do you feel that?
Speaker 2:you're paying for the fair. Well, I'm in the IPC regime, so I'm going to pay 2% of the events I'm paying for, so I'm going to pay 25%.
Speaker 1:I'm going to pay 25%. I'm going to pay 25%. I mean I won't. I won't do it. I mean I'm an entrepreneur, I'm going to do it myself. I'm going to do it myself.
Speaker 2:I'm going to do it myself, I'm going to do it myself.
Speaker 1:I'm going to do it myself.
Speaker 2:Yes, Now this is a great experience when you pay Two percent In a door with yes, investment, you go, no, no, nothing paid.
Speaker 3:No nothing, paid no nothing, paid no nothing paid no nothing paid.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't know. No, it's not big. I don't want to say that it's big.
Speaker 1:I'm just curious about this. Actually, how many percent do you think you're going to get from the business? I mean, I've never heard of that.
Speaker 3:I want to know a little bit, so I don't think that's going to be, and small and medium businesses Like there's nothing that we can do to make a living with just a little bit of money. It's crazy that we don't make money. We don't make money, friends, we don't make all these other things to pay for, and then we're like, ugh, we don't make money. Hey, I'm going to tell you something and when I come back, I'm going to tell you this. I also want a piece of that. As is Now, I have to give also the this and that, and then they say, wow, you're empowering us. So we're going to do a text cut for the first five years and we're going to help with this and that. It's not cute. And it makes a lot more sense for us not to register. Not to register Because we're idiots, because we're going to register in KVK and let's do the right way.
Speaker 3:And then they say why don't you benefit. No, it's just that we don't register and let's do the right way and do the right way and let's do the right way, and let's do the right way and let's do the right way and let's do the right way and let's do the right way and let's do the right way, and let's do the right way and let's do the right way and the so now you can go on a small enterprise tour and you can get a lot of BBO.
Speaker 2:You can get a lot of income and business medium. Yes, and now I can say that now I'm going to have a couple, but it's still for me, as small as it is, it's a chance for me to grow. Now that I have a financial space, I have a place for this type of things. We never get to the reform of income and loan. We go to the BBO, we go to BTV, we go to another place, but it's full of drama and we lose all the time, all the work we lose. So now we have to review all the hotels and there is a sector that has room tax, that has drop tax in casinos, that has a burden, a BBV, and we have to reform that amount. And then we don't take a place. We say we're going to BTV and then we have a pay the tax. You have to pay the tax. So it's not just online, it's profit. So, especially for small entrepreneurs, small and medium enterprises, smes, they have a special rule.
Speaker 2:The BBO the entrance, the costs.
Speaker 3:Okay, what about, in your opinion, for Kiko and you? Like? Kiko is protecting us, like.
Speaker 2:Initially we wanted an Invoerecht, historically to protect the market, but then again we didn't have that. But it's a base of entry, a high hope for the government. So to eliminate it completely it's a bit complicated.
Speaker 3:But that's what I'm saying. This is where I think there needs to be a line of it's like why are we paying if we're trying to get off of this? Wow, it makes no sense to even want to do something on the island to be able to benefit the Netherlands. I take my business. I'm sure I would be way more successful than what I did. And if you're not doing it, you're not doing it. You're like ah, I'm going to do it, Like I know it's not easy.
Speaker 1:Baby steps.
Speaker 2:No, no, Baby steps. No no 2020,. We have a pandemic.
Speaker 1:It's all I'm going to give you a script about that.
Speaker 2:I'm going to give you a script about that 2022, we're going to have a pandemic 2022, we're going to have a pandemic. I mean, now that we're Again, now that we're financially, the next government is going to have a lot more space for these things, a lot more important for those things having more importance for us, for the business, for the business, for the business and now, yes, I'm going to go back to the creative part.
Speaker 1:I have a person John King highly suggest, I think. If you have a video for me, I'm going to send it to you and then I'm going. Great conversation.
Speaker 2:And it works it works.
Speaker 1:sí, Please. It's not like you're just talking about theory. It's a theory and it worked. Yeah, so it's not some fucking fairy tale, you know, like makeup Y lo que algo ella mencionó también, and it worked. So it's not. It's not some Some Fucking fairy tale. You know Like makeup. That's right there. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, let's get this out of the way Again. What's going on?
Speaker 2:Let me explain. No, what's going on? Welcome.
Speaker 1:Explain to us no, no, this was pre-COVID.
Speaker 2:This was pre-COVID Weap is a company that generates electricity and water. Correct, so it sends electricity to the sea and the sea sends it to our houses.
Speaker 2:Correct. Water is not distributed, it's not brought and it's not distributed Correct. But we don't do it that way. We don't do it that way, yeah, anyway, with the other thing, if the government has a framework or a concept where it can buy its cleanest fuel, that's a problem. If the government has a contract with, for example, vader Pit and Uri Rama, vader Pit is a wind power plant in San Nicolás. Vader Pit is a company with the other government, a Dutch-Parisian company that brings energy from the wind. Nicolás. It's a company that I worked with in Paris, in the Netherlands. It doesn't bring energy from the wind, from the wind, it doesn't send it to the web, the web pays it and contracts never go to the parliament either, because the website is the web's thing.
Speaker 2:The web has users to buy and it has users to buy cheap. If not, it, if not, the model won't work. So I'm going to go to the port of Gumbiano, which is already at the price, at the price of the people I'm going to pay now and I'm going to step off a little more of HFO. My choice arrives now with NANG, which is going to be LNG. Now I'm going to be a minister of energy in 2007. Now I'm going to say I'm going to say we want.
Speaker 2:So, no matter how many teams you have, it becomes dual. You can only go to HFO, but you can go to dual. Watch the engine, the number. Dual is between going to HFO and going to LNG. So you don't have to go to LNG. You don't have to think that LNG is transition fuel to get to 100% carbon neutral. So you go to 2050, you know the way to go. But you get to 2050, it's zero. Lng is cleaner, but it's not as clean as HFO. So we're not going to negotiate with Eagle LNG right now. We're not going to get to a pre-agreement with Basari to see if Eagle can do with LNG or if they want to pay a certain price. Apparently it's a price relative to the ball, but it's the first pay a certain price. Apparently, the price is a price relatively good, but it's the first pandemic.
Speaker 2:For example, if you negotiate with Eagle later, the price will be higher. So except for the Eagle LNG, it's not a big deal for me, but I don't like to see anyone with that Sorry.
Speaker 1:The reason why Evelyn said that again I can't believe it, but sorry. The reason why you chose Evelyn is because, again, I might be completely wrong, I know calm down. Supposedly Evelyn started to include the situation and also the time. The director of Web didn't want to do it, so supposedly I gave him a golden handshake. By here put a primo of whoever. So is it a story?
Speaker 2:Yes, it's sexy.
Speaker 1:It's very sexy. Okay, good, I thought when I saw it, when I saw it on Evelyn, I thought that's the story. There are cases around that Correct.
Speaker 2:My dad is not from Nadia, but I know. My dad, by the way, is retired. He's 82 years old.
Speaker 3:He's retired.
Speaker 1:Leave him retired. He's 82 years old. He's enjoying his retirement.
Speaker 2:He doesn't want to live alone.
Speaker 1:He wants to go home.
Speaker 2:He feels happy. He feels happy.
Speaker 1:He doesn't want to be relevant.
Speaker 2:No, I don't have anyone to talk to. I have a contract to negotiate between Web and Eagle. I have a role in it. I have a brother good point. We have a cousin of mine, a brother of mine, who is a councilor of the web. A councilor of the web is not appointed by the government. A councilor of the web is not appointed by the government. It's a structure like that the government builds utilities and the utilities build the web and the Almar. So utilities are named after the web of Almar and the utilities are named of a brother of mine, a friend of mine, and I think. And then suddenly the director of Almar says utilities is a number of the director of Almar.
Speaker 3:No, ami, utilities is a number of the director of Almar Fuck, and then, and then, and then the way Almar will occupy a function for a while, but a negotiation takes place through the web with your lawyer and not with my father, not with my father's office Okay.
Speaker 2:When you negotiate, you get a deal on the web and nowadays you have to have the director of the web to defend the contract, because if you don't have it, it's not a good contract. I'm a lawyer, I don't know, so I don't know what I'm going to choose and I don't know what role I'm going to play. It's really hard to do that. We have another contract and we have another leverage. If you have a website, you're supposed to sell us water. Right, we have water on the website. If you have a, oh, right, so I have another price to buy with Aruba. So if you don't know the price, then it's probably a bargaining position in the region, correct? So that's the reason why I have a non-disclosure agreement. I told myself I'm a lawyer, I'm a lawyer, I'm a fiscal and I want to go back one day. And no, I'm going to be sure I'm not going to mix with a non-disclosure agreement, because now I'm risking my own. Yeah, yeah, yeah, true, true, yeah.
Speaker 1:I want to mention that the last trip of Evelyn is the last trip of the election it depends on the result of the election.
Speaker 2:More than one trip, but think of it as the last trip. Ok, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, the election, because I'm 57 years old. There comes a time when I want to have my drink back.
Speaker 3:My drink is on hold Definitely In my family, yeah, so? I'm down, I'm not young.
Speaker 2:So there comes a time when I think, what am I going to do? But I have a couple of things that I have to do. I have a party. I have to go to a congress, I have to prepare the party for the candidate so I have to use it to have a good transition and not to have to go to a leadership and go out and do politics, because I have a supporting role you have an advisor on the band correct, I was see Aveline step down who Aveline puts as leader she doesn't put she doesn't put I'm rephrasing who, okay, that's a good one Top two candidates.
Speaker 2:Top three. No, it's fine, I have a question, I have a question, I have a question I have a question, I have a question, I have a question, I have a question.
Speaker 1:I have a question.
Speaker 2:I have a question. I have a question. I have a question, I have a question, I have a question, I have a question, I have a question.
Speaker 3:I have a question, I have a question, I have a question, I have a question, I have a question. I have a question, I, but I feel like he would ask I feel like you did a great job, but I feel like A girl.
Speaker 2:We can talk about some things.
Speaker 3:We can definitely talk about some things, but thank you, I feel like, thank you A girl, I feel like you did a great job.
Speaker 2:Thank you for doing a great job. I feel like you did a great job. I feel like you did a great job. Thank you for your good work.
Speaker 3:Thank you for your good work. Thank you for your good work.
Speaker 2:In a different sense. I have a couple of things I want to say. I'm interested in the private sector. I'm interested in the public sector. I want to say it's a must for anyone who wants to lead a position. I have a colleague, minister, who doesn't have experience in the private or the public, and I want't do it. If you go to the private sector, you only have experience. You will be very frustrated. I would like to bring that to you. I know that I speak well, but I will give you a basis. That's one. Two I want you to have a domain of the most important matter so that it helps, because if you don't dominate the matter, don't be sorry.
Speaker 3:So, one hand up on the ground, I'm going to ask you this, king of what do you think in the past seven years? What do you think in the past seven years?
Speaker 1:like some things you know what?
Speaker 3:this was awful, evelyn, like. Why the hell would you do this Like this was not it. Or it backfired, you know, expected by a certain way. This was awful, evelyn, like. Why the hell would you do this Like this was not it? This was not beneficial.
Speaker 2:Or it backfires, which you don't expect in such a way. Now I see in the long term a cost that I have to pay because I don't want to go right in the situation of infrastructure and in a bad way, and there's no lack of desire or determination. It's just that I can't do it. I don't get paid. So if I have to give myself a salary, I give myself a salary?
Speaker 3:Ah, so it's zero. I don't give myself a salary. What is something that you do in the campaign, that you didn't do, that you don't get? Ah, I know.
Speaker 2:I put it back in 2021, with the campaign.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because you like to campaign with the same things.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, my campaign is to lower the pension. Yeah, as a matter of fact, there is another area when we can sit together To invent what we do. That is a pension issue. But there is no flexibility. That is why we don't have a low pension.
Speaker 3:Yeah, sorry, go ahead now.
Speaker 1:I'm going to switch To San Nicolas. What is your plan For San Nicolas?
Speaker 2:San Nicolas I am convinced that it is a good Tourist pillar For our tourism In San Nicolas. The three I was convinced that it was a good tourist pillar for us, for the tourist development in San Nicolas. The three are a hobby benefit, not a copycat of North Sea, but something more private, something more cozy something more intimate.
Speaker 1:Focus more on cultural stuff food art, blah blah blah, nobody wants super high buildings.
Speaker 2:No, no, it's totally big. But anyway, if you want to see a big city that attracts people and that's developed like a walk-in center in San Nicolas, that's a very beautiful place.
Speaker 1:Cruise port terminals.
Speaker 2:That's where we are, but that's a plan of redestination of the refinery's terrain. So the refinery as we knew. It is not there. It's not there in BDP. We know now that a proposal has come to the table or not, which is a good thing for industry, for any industrial development, even if it's LNG, it can be windmills, it can be solar panels.
Speaker 1:You can't put it in a way that it's food. No, you can't put it in a way that it's food you can't put it in a way that it's food.
Speaker 2:You can't put it in a way that it's food. You can't put it in a way that it's food. You can't put it in house if it's high-end, so you can see. It's spectacular.
Speaker 1:Yes it's possible to sell hotels in a 40-condo situation no, no, no, I can't do that. You can sell a number of hotels, but what about condos? 40 rooms? What the fuck? It's possible.
Speaker 2:But we're also. Oh nice.
Speaker 3:I heard Mike De Mesa about ESEI too. But they say, once you go down a wall where is contaminated, it's like the water is not going to run eventually.
Speaker 2:No, but wait, not only in the land, the water, the water is going to run In the land, it's true.
Speaker 1:In the land, it's more like a boardwalk to go there to sit to eat, to talk In the land it no say the understandable Use one big solar place.
Speaker 3:Yeah, which is okay. Shit, I lost my train of thought. I'm sorry. No, go for it. I forgot what the fuck I was going to say. That's the first time that's ever happened, right?
Speaker 1:No, don't do that. Don't do that. What's the map of Aveline's cannabis stand?
Speaker 2:Cannabis Medicinal.
Speaker 1:Both Medicinal and recreational.
Speaker 2:It's been going on for a while. Medicinal, both medicinal and recreational. Recreational not yet if we do medicinal, it's not clear what it is.
Speaker 1:It's been going on for a while. Wow, I'm going to have a debate in the KVK and Ricardo will complain.
Speaker 2:I'm going to have a medicinal cannabis in a bank in Aruba that is a bank and business but you're not looking for an institution.
Speaker 1:You yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the direction that it's going Is to build A central bank that has less cash To put, to put more control On the flow of the card.
Speaker 3:Yes, but the bank Is going crazy With our old CPS To transfer the current CPS To my savings, to my savings, to my savings, to my savings, to my savings, to my savings, to my savings, to my savings, to my savings, to my savings.
Speaker 2:I worked hard to get it, but I didn't get it. G no, the bank is not like that. Joffrey brought a project called AFTA Fair Trade Authority. It's an authority that is in force to control and make sure that we don't have unfair and illegal competencies. And we have to check the bank, we have to study it, we have to report it and we have to indicate which area we're going to bring, and that's some bullshit, I know.
Speaker 1:That's some bullshit. I know, I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 3:I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know I they're also going extinct. They have corals. They're bleaching. Adding on to the extra piece that we have, we have an invasion Of the lionfish. That's coming, yes.
Speaker 2:We have an invasion Of the lionfish that's coming and the protection Of the marine park To protect it From the sea Is a top priority. So what Do we have to take into account With that? If we have A Now it's a WAF In San Nicolas, it's a WAF, it's a 30-mile boat With fuel To the river, so we have to Use it To save the water. So it doesn't In the water and it's still, with the fact that it's getting worse. And now it's left.
Speaker 3:But what Dangui Mentioned Shout out to Dangui. He mentioned that he had A yacht port With 20 yachts Big and three more Like that's bringing in more.
Speaker 2:Additional.
Speaker 3:But if it's good.
Speaker 2:And it doesn't have A that's bringing in more.
Speaker 3:But that's what he's going to do, right? I don't suppose, but that's what he's going to do he wants to.
Speaker 2:Go in the park and go to the other side, but then he goes a month on foot. So a month.
Speaker 1:It's one way in and one way out, but he wants to go to the park.
Speaker 3:They won't just be here Home. Go to the park and have a good life.
Speaker 2:I mean be here home, have a good life. I mean I'm not going to at this point, maybe actually there's a hand that goes by.
Speaker 1:Dive at the video, at the portrait, at the document. No, no, but if you do that again it's a good thing, At a certain point it's cool, it's good.
Speaker 3:If not, it's a good thing, because it it's needed. It's needed. A lot of people are educated on how important tour and marine life is to us. I don't think it's necessary to get educated, baby, but it's going to happen. I think we're coming to an end.
Speaker 2:Let's look at the time over here, don't?
Speaker 1:worry about this. We're already like an hour and 30 minutes in time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time.
Speaker 2:Time time time time.
Speaker 1:Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? Do you know what?
Speaker 2:I mean. Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? Do?
Speaker 1:you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Do If you have two bigger ones. You have to feel that you have two To be able to sit. What other part.
Speaker 1:Do you feel that it's more aligned With you?
Speaker 2:Correct, I'm being honest, the topic Is aligned Because the debate. Yes, it's good that there's A broad support. Correct that the direction Is in your area. Yes, so I hope the solution. Is more or neighborhood, so I hope the solution is also more or less similar In our neighborhood. It's very easy for a coalition to form for many people, or there are a few things that have a role, so I hope it will open. I don't know if Otmar will open.
Speaker 1:Please, please. At the beginning, we were all talking about it.
Speaker 2:Yes, we don't Just for this, just for this.
Speaker 1:And I won't think of a hint of suspicious. Correcto, just for this, just for this, correct, correct.
Speaker 3:He's very secure. Correct, he's very secure. The Ackerman is going to the house of bullshits. Figure it out. Yeah, one one Correct.
Speaker 1:They don't put them on a decision and then be there and say ah promise, figure it out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, move on. And they say that just on the diet it's important that we think about what's good now, no 5%.
Speaker 1:I guess I'm set with my question. We always send you other episodes. We never get to your questions. But at this know I know I know, I know, I know, I know I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. I video of Waco. I don't know if you saw it, but Waco for those who are public. I have a vote for Evelyn and MAP.
Speaker 2:First of all, I want you to know that it's important to vote. I feel that there are still young people who are not sure if they will vote True At the moment. It's been eight years, but there is a right, a right that is bigger. Don't make another decision.
Speaker 1:Every.
Speaker 2:Do you?
Speaker 1:see that voice change.
Speaker 3:Like girl, bye, I ain't talking to myself, I'm not trained.
Speaker 2:Stop Now, I'm trained, do you see?
Speaker 3:Girl, bye, bye, bye.
Speaker 1:Bye, guys. I hope you enjoyed the episode. We have a few more episodes to go. I'm going to say it again One, two, three more to go. So we're like one week away from the election, so make sure you vote correctly, Go vote. If one week away, de elección, so make sure you vote correct, Go vote. If you want Evelina Bush, do something. We have a comment section by comment, whatever you want. And if you don't have a comment, fact check please.
Speaker 3:Fact check this. This is shit.
Speaker 1:I don't know how to put it in time, but good. But if you know you guys do the job and we'll see you guys. Oh, subscribe, tambi. See you next time.
Speaker 3:Peace.
Speaker 1:Peace.
Speaker 3:Meow.