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No Filter in Paradise
Danqui Oduber: Socialismo, Tax riba tips y Hotel ta paga belasting? | EP 177
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To legalize cannabis. She's a drug addict. She's a drug addict. Every year I, as a health minister, don't go to elections, don't enter my party program and finally present the concept of law here in Parliament. I'm sorry, but this is a person who is so focused on cannabis. I'm from a different party. I'm from a red light district.
Speaker 2:That's my opinion. Alcohol is legal. It's not. It's. Where is it? There's a debate about the last of the beef with Ursula and Otmar. Who's going to be right? I feel like Otmar is going to be a better Minister of Tourism than Ursula and Otmar the partnership came out in 2019 with ATA and they're talking about the carrying capacity. I'm going to be on vacation. On vacation no on vacation, I don't know. 7, 8, 5, 6, 7, 8, any economic pillar, no tour.
Speaker 3:The orange economy is very much developed. Hey yo, what's up? Hello, how are you?
Speaker 2:Guys, welcome back to the ABC Islands favorite podcast, no Filter in Paradise, a show about anything and everything Between two friends one is straight and the other.
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Speaker 1:Okay come with us.
Speaker 2:I'm running around like beer for you. Okay, I'm going to go, I'm going to run around like fuck, setting up everything.
Speaker 3:Let's go, guys, I'm going to go to Arthur Hendes.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go to his house. I'm going to have a beer or a Balshie, whatever I like, I don't know. I'm going to have three beers.
Speaker 3:But no, I believe he's coming for you.
Speaker 2:He's coming for you. Maybe it's the last episode. You do the math. I hope it's number two. You do the math. I don't know how to say it. I have a question math.
Speaker 1:Well, I hope the number goes. So you do the math forget this out, but anyways, uh, dangi, welcome back to the show. Thanks, thanks, thanks for having me again. I'm happy to have the opportunity to talk to you in a transparent way, no filter.
Speaker 3:We have a tight limit.
Speaker 2:We have to start with a segment of pro frame. When you have a window with doors, you have to open it. Go to the pro frame.
Speaker 1:Let's go the house is over After 15 years. I'm going to be a good mother. I'm going to win Perfect. I have a small segment Quick answers.
Speaker 2:I'll be 15 years old. Okay, perfect, Now a quick answer. What are the three biggest accomplishments of the last three years?
Speaker 1:I want to say three biggest accomplishments of the last three years. To know each other. I have a study in the region of SENA, colombia, costa Rica, america, canada. I want to say another accomplishment oh wow, they're legalized. America of Canada will be back, aruba will register and help us in medical care, which is another accomplishment.
Speaker 3:Oh wow, they're legalizing it here.
Speaker 1:Yes, we have a government in 2017, that's where it's happening. A Jew has a case in Costa Rica or Colombia and it's an obstacle to be able to bring it to Aruba. We're going to have a campaign in 2017, when we won the election, we started a process to legalize, to implement our own register called Arubej. In the Netherlands, we know it as Bech Register. In Arubej, we know it as Arubej Arubej Bech, we call it Arubej. It's a complicated process. A doctor from Arubej who studies in the Netherlands is very skeptical. He says yes, you should know someone from Colombia, exactly Exactly. It's challenging to convince this sector. In fact, this sector is easier for specialists, good students who study for 12, 13, 14 years in Colombia, but finally we manage to convince them of the need to recognize us as a country.
Speaker 3:That's really big, that's very big.
Speaker 1:There's a great shortage of specialists who are going on vacations, like we are, and Turia Rubiana has a good university in Colombia, costa Rica with such a great university with a good quality and a good level of education, so I don't know why we never advanced our risks, but this is surely a major accomplishment.
Speaker 3:Okay, go to the other two.
Speaker 1:Sorry, sorry. Go to the other two. The Sorry, sorry. Anteriormente tur e mil pacientes aqui lo me ser awardo manda Colombia. Nosso percurapa e 22 camas na IMSAM que o lobo awardo usa como un second hospital. Está de uso Anteriormente. Está outra cama na Bashi without any use. Nosso percurapa compra 4 ambulances e pone 5 doctors de casa em IMSAM, que me considera um de dos major accomplishments e me quer assum de mas grande de periodo major accomplishment setback we have about 2 million tourists to be tourists. The perspective is difficult to project and predict. If we come back, if we bounce back, bounce forward with the water in 2023, 2024, we will be able to stop the pandemic. So I'm sure we are filled with pride of how we feel with the accomplishments of this great country as a country of tourism. I feel like I accomplished a lot for the country, as a tourism company and also for the public health.
Speaker 3:It's good that you said that I'm going to go up to the pool for a while to check the health. You did good, you did good, you did good.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go out and check the pool. I don't know how it's good. I think it's the most overrated place in Aruba. I don't know how to explain it. I say it personally it's the most overrated place in Aruba. I don't know how to explain it. I'll tell you personally it's a different story.
Speaker 1:It's the most overrated place in Aruba Because it has gold mines. Really, gold mines are a very overrated place. It's a ruin, it has its history, but it's one of the the most visited in Aruba.
Speaker 2:I don't want to say it's because of the botanicals because Aruba is so good but because of its history, but the other six don't have any activity, nothing. What is?
Speaker 1:it. No, no, I don't have an F&B, I don't have a restaurant, I don't have a souvenir shop, I don't have anything.
Speaker 2:But it's a place, that souvenir shop, no, de nada, de nada, pero de un lugar que está a bordo frequentar para miles y miles y miles de turistas diariamente. And now the storytelling is very important. Sí, sí, algo. Tal vez, tal vez Algo, true or false, Vamos a mascar el papel de Arover, pero tocando nos último interview, vamos a tipo no True or false. True or false?
Speaker 1:That's it.
Speaker 2:Do the math. I'll work at the math. The math is math, Not a zero, a woman uno.
Speaker 1:I want to think true, but that's it. The future determines that, the electorate determines it, and also the choice of the leaders of the party if they have the desire to continue in politics or not well, she kind of said, depending on how it goes, it's kind of over, it's on the table.
Speaker 2:X. It's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not For sure.
Speaker 1:On the show. I'm sure you'll ask the same question.
Speaker 3:I'm sure For the guys from Dangui. Yes, yes, yes, Let me tell you.
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Speaker 1:Debate Prima de Amami Nosotros, primo Nosotros, primo Nosotros, odiber si Pero de Amami primo, por Cruz odiber, pero me te quiere Otmar, está un dinanco a stand out, sempre me considera como un bom debater, sempre está argumentar suponência não é bom de maneira forte que me. É seguro me está considerando a stand out em esse dinanco a debater, e for the rest, yeah, and not be able to present how you are going to realize the plan In politics. I'm going to criticize, I'm going to question, but I'm going to present a plan a vision and not just a plan and a vision, but how.
Speaker 1:I'm going to execute what I'm going to do. So I have a program I don't even know what it's called. In the program, bullet points of any new party 10 points, beautiful clothes. I'm going to go to the course of life. Fine, how do you do it? Explain to me how you do it. I know I'm missing a small part of the game, but I'll explain how. I'm not going to explain.
Speaker 3:You're going to say it's a big game, but you're not explaining it very well either. Well, I thought how.
Speaker 1:I thought I had, I don't know. So campaign. We have a campaign, something beautiful, but we have an opportunity to work with people. Work with people who are very successful in life, who are small traders, big traders, so in this way, we have a good base of opinion. That is exactly the theme that lives the most in our community and one of the most current issue in our community and the most important issue in our community today, despite the growth of tourism, economic growth, financial situation of so many governments the GDP, the asset value to improve, is the cost of living. Inflation affects the world and Aruba is an exception.
Speaker 1:The first priority for us for the next term is to improve the cost of living and the purchasing power, improve the quality of life. So, as we work, we want to increase the minimum wage, we want to increase the pension of the elderly, which, in the end, we increased by 18% compared to the previous year. If we compare where we were in 2017, where we are now in 2024, we000, almost 3,200 florins per year, so we have an increase of 3,000 and a half florins. It's not enough, we are aware of that. It's not enough, but we will commit to it. We will continue to increase gradually in a responsible way. The next term between 15 and and 25%. We consider something responsible.
Speaker 1:If we want to have a fund, if we want to increase the pension age of the elderly, we have to look to reduce the asset value for the pensioners. Our barrier is 10% to 5%. We have to lower it from 5% to 0%. The next term for pensionersers will not pay more assets. It's a positive law. It's a difficult job for our team. Now we have to lend a billion florins to the Dutch government during the pandemic One day. The condition of the Dutch government is that we have to make a reforms in the asset-free fund because the fund is not sustainable and we don't want to spend it anymore Because the pandemic is difficult to predict in a way that the future will be different for us. So one day we will have a positive list of remedies for Kiko. We will have exactly the remedies that we call over-the-counter Remedies, that no health insurance company that has ever done anything in the world. They are remedying it with Orba by Walmart, walgreens, cvs. They are literally doing it over-the-counter.
Speaker 1:They are not doing any health insurance in the world that covers the remedies here. We are saying that they are doing it over-the-counter. We are saying that they are making a certain decision. If you are going to cut or remove the service for the package of ACV, you can contact me and I will give you a list of positive remedies. Our goal is to, if you suffer from chronic illness, to maintain access at all times to this type of remedy. If you are going to take a chronic medicine, this is the remedy for you. So the financial situation to improve from the beginning to the end, from how to do it for me After the election, we will correct it.
Speaker 1:No, we will not correct it. We will correct it on January 1, 2025, precisely to avoid that we will have a backlash with the other campaign. We will correct it In a responsible way. We are looking for advice. The Ministry is looking for advice to get us out of here, to see what consequences it has for the Asve not for us, but for the future. So, starting January 1, 2025, we are going to grow. We are growing, we are going to be 65 years old and we are going to have a positive result. So that's how we can explain how we can improve the quality of life, the purchasing power and the cost of life for the citizens. The answer is full off.
Speaker 1:Who stands out in the debate? You have to, but why?
Speaker 3:don't you mention Otmar? Otmar is the best.
Speaker 1:Otmar is a standout. He is the second. We think he is the second Candidate or leader Of the standout. That's the following question. Miguel Is a good debater. Miguel is a A big bubble. He is a substantial.
Speaker 2:Argument of the opponents. What was your? Okay, so.
Speaker 3:What I want to say is If you're enough, you can mention what you like about campaigning. You know you can listen to what people are going through, and all this good stuff, but every four years do you think you've done enough to see what people are going through, versus maybe campaigning all year? I don't know, no, but campaigning is more frequent.
Speaker 1:I put it like that now we don't have campaigning, we have a map of the only game where you have once in every. That has a type of meeting once every three months, called Bantopa. So we have it in different districts in Aruba just to invite people from the Biba district, whether it's San Nicolás, santa Cruz, paradeira North or Reinstadt. We invite them to the meeting just to listen if you have concerns to address us during the period of government. So now we have a campaign, we have more people, we have more houses, we have more meetings. But if you don't like that now we don't have a campaign, we don't listen to people then you can say that we are the only party that during the whole year that we have been, in government, so all the time the people are telling you that you're doing well.
Speaker 3:What? That's what you're saying.
Speaker 1:I don't want to say that my app is perfect. I admit it. None is perfect, but I want to see that in the situation we are in right now, in the pandemic, we are doing a tremendous job to put the country back in the field, to look for tourists in the city, to look for economic recovery, to look for an increase in pension, to increase the income and also to look for a slant that depends on an entry. That understand that part.
Speaker 3:But another thing we have a call with the base, yeah it. Otra cosa nos tienen un chamarro con the base of money. Yeah, ser plus, ser plus key, and all this good stuff, everybody's talking about it. Que todos aquí. No, we get it. Pero para nos poder llegar a esa aquí nos mesera, stifle, nos comunidad, everybody que está extra more pressure than usual, you know. You say why don't you get the people?
Speaker 1:Yes, half half, but the people are going to die and that's what happens. I don't want to call it a surplus.
Speaker 3:That's what they call it yes.
Speaker 1:I want to call it my interpretation of the financial situation, to know a better reason. So I'm partially in agreement. That's okay with our pandemic and also another loan that we have to comply with it, but on the other hand it is not really contributing to the improvement of the financial situation of the government and the work of the tourists. It's not like 120 million that are still in the work, but it's like 2 million tourists that contribute to the BBO, basv and other taxes that they have.
Speaker 3:But who will?
Speaker 1:serve. Who will serve. Who will serve. Who will serve. Who will serve. Who will serve. Who will serve. Who will serve. Who will serve. Who will serve. Who will serve. Who will serve. Who will serve. Who will serve who?
Speaker 3:will serve. Who will serve. Who will serve. Who will serve. Who will serve? Who will serve.
Speaker 1:Who will serve who? With the government, with the ministry? There are 13 tourists, but if they want to work and trade in the industry, they have to look for tourists in the city. So there is a force, a bigger asset that we have as a country because we serve, with our race, two standouts one is that Aruba is considered one of the safest countries in the Caribbean and two is the hospitality and hospitality that we have with our service and we have to wear service clothes and we don't feel like we're wearing clothes in our house or in our clothes, so we have to put our clothes where we want them to be as one of our favorite destinations.
Speaker 3:But people don't say that they don't want to live here. It's the same in the local area. Is that a big problem?
Speaker 2:It's something that I want to do.
Speaker 1:It's the legit question 5%. Correct Rubiana because she has a dignified life. If the situation is like this, we will be able to achieve six short-term terms. I have to say that we have governed two long terms. The first term the government of Caetrempan is to put it on the net. The second term, as you know, is to manage two years of pandemic so that we can do absolutely nothing with the pandemic. And the third term, we have a joint agreement with the government, with the Japanese government, which has been in fact for eight years, with our government to govern the country Four years in the past, but now we are asking the people to have more confidence so that at least we can work with our 20th and last year here.
Speaker 2:Okay, and a question for you. Yes, first of all, I want to mention a little bit, but maybe I can elaborate a little bit about it. I have a question for you. I have a question for you. Yes, With the map you can see the image of the people of the party. After the government has two trips, you can tell us, tell us about the situation of Glamour and Andy?
Speaker 1:Yes, and Becerril and Becerril. We have two aspects to which the government has a history of the European countries since 1986. There are seven coalitions. Of the seven coalitions, only one survives Governance. Are you talking about seven coalitions? No seven. Seven coalitions, six fall prematurely, only one survives.
Speaker 3:Time is limited. The ADN, uh-huh Wow.
Speaker 1:For some reason I'm not getting this. For some reason I'm not getting this, uh-huh. Ah, I see I'm going to get this From my experience working with him. We worked on three small games MAP, por and IRET. We didn't have any personal interest.
Speaker 2:MAP, por and IRET. No, ah, that's because of the root.
Speaker 1:We worked on MAP.
Speaker 2:POR and IRET and then MAP RAIZ.
Speaker 1:MAP RAIZ, sorry, from my experience, we didn't have any personal interest or general interest, so it's a little bit complicated to attract a small party. I will go back to your question. With the image on the right of those who are not confronted with you as a party, I want to show that we are different than other parties. Without going into details that other parties have already said, I want to show that a member of our party is not confronted with a problem. It is to assume its responsibility and it is to take a decision from a distance.
Speaker 1:We are not a party that chooses to go with a person who is suspicious, who is suspicious, who is a person who wants to participate in the election. So I want to say that our goal is to demonstrate with integrity which is very important for us our responsibility to present the situation. So I want to say that it's not just me, it's not just the other party, it's the private sector daily, the private sector that we have to confront the problem and take action. In our case, each politician who is part of the MAP party will have consequences if you have a situation that is a little bit fastidious.
Speaker 2:Got it.
Speaker 1:You have a follow-up. No, I'm good, all right.
Speaker 2:Again, man, as I said in the beginning, I have to be here, let's go.
Speaker 3:Next one.
Speaker 2:It's almost impossible to find a specialist to answer your problem. It's almost impossible, but it's called LUNAS. It's abnormally expensive, for nothing, most people travel, but there's Colombia to find a fix. What is the answer to the problem here that you mentioned?
Speaker 1:The last one is our search to improve the quality of care and service, our search to invest in medical care. We invest in prevention. For me, more than a story, I want to tell you, the Ministry of Health really put actions to work by investing in prevention. We have a health and lifestyle center. We have two health and lifestyle centers in Aruba with 850 clients that improve our quality of life, that we do life intervention, and I see people criticizing me saying I'm paying a premium for the asset, but I have a long life, I have a job that my uncle deserves. I feel that the service is better for me because I don't have my own insurance. So when I was working with RACI, the question was is it a solidarity fund? For us, it's more reasonable. It's paid because it's not more expensive. In Aruba, 70% of our population is overweight and 70% is 30% obese. But we don't have a healthy population. In other countries, for example, the population is overweight. From 70 to 30% are obese. That means that we have a healthy population In other countries, for example.
Speaker 1:I'm going to compare Aruba with the country of the Netherlands. Now there is a private health insurance. There is a list of questions. The question is to start with a cigarette. Yes, okay, pre-imagine that you don't. You drink alcohol frequently. Pre-imagine that you don. If you have depression, if you have triglycerides, if you have cholesterol, if you have heart problems. Based on these, you have to calculate the reward If you don't. No, if you don't, our insurance is more reasonable and also is more reasonable and our coverage is better.
Speaker 1:The truth is the I am the health minister and this is the last thing I have to do to lower the waiting list or to have a house arrest for a specialist. To make it as easy as possible, we are going to start in 2017. We have a average of 9 months. We are not making funds available, we are not making vacations, we are not have specialists. We have to invest in the market. We can reduce the waiting list from 9 months to 5, 4, 5 months.
Speaker 1:It's still not acceptable For me as a student. It's not acceptable to say that you feel bad and go to the hospital and be embarrassed, for example, for 12 months, and you feel bad, go to Reuters or to Heimwerwesen, for example, a sweet mango that is kept. But in practice, in reality, life is with us. We are specialists here in the face of a global scarcity, because that is the only reason we came to Arubé to give an incentive for us to study medicine in the region. To come back to our doctorate in Venezuela, our doctorate in Colombia, our doctorate in Mexico and the profession of Hopis Harsk. I am a doctor in Venezuela, in Colombia, in Mexico, and it's a job that is very difficult. It's political to do it Because it's easy to do it, but it's difficult to do it in practice, but it's also an objective.
Speaker 1:it's also a priority, but I can do it in a way that's not enough. I can do it in a few weeks. I can do it as much as possible. Thought I'd put it as a minister. I put it for intervention, improve the quality of the service, but finally escape the life of people. I thought I'd put it in the city, in the city of Puebla. So I thought I'd do it. I wanted to escape the life, but I had the life too when I couldn't escape.
Speaker 3:I put more, but what you're supposed to be doing and we have Dr Patrick van der Linden and he's been on the show and he's been doing a type of consultancy and he's been helping Doctors in Colombia and other people.
Speaker 1:What we're doing Is that we're not specialists. We're introducing Something we call reverse transmission. So instead of our patient, we're looking for a Colombian doctor. I don't know. It's cheaper, it's cheaper, it's cheaper. It's cheaper. It's cheaper, it's cheaper, it's cheaper. It's cheaper, it's cheaper. It's cheaper, it's cheaper.
Speaker 2:It's cheaper. It's cheaper. It's cheaper. It's cheaper. It's cheaper. It's cheaper, it's cheaper, it's cheaper, it's cheaper.
Speaker 1:It's cheaper. It the quality of care in Colombia is equivalent to the one in Miami. In my time, miami Baptist and University of Miami obviously had a higher quality of care. I don't think it's superior to Colombia, but Colombia's quality of care is good. It has a good level.
Speaker 1:The difference between lodging and food and Beverage with Miami is more expensive. Now we're going to make a comparison. At the end of the day, colombia is more economical because Food, beverage and Lodging are cheaper, but in Colombia we're paying an international rate. An international rate because we're not considered as a medical tourism. We're paying annually between 45 and 50 million in Ulan, 45, 50 million in the Ulanes, which is a big player like a small country in Colombia, and that's our change Last year. But we didn't achieve it. What makes us different in Colombia? To promise a trip, we're going to have an open tender. We always have a relationship with a hospital without us looking for the same price, but to promise a trip, we're going to have a tender just to lower the price and to stimulate the competition between us.
Speaker 3:So I think that's something really good to say it's crazy what you're saying about the list of expectations to say you're going to get a job in Colombia. You're going to pay $500. You're going to rent a building and the whole day you're going to be doing tests. Whatever, whatever, whatever. And in an hour you're going to get the result, and in another hour you're going to get the result. You're going to get the first test. You're not going to be able to. So you're getting turbo contest in one day versus in.
Speaker 1:Aruba.
Speaker 3:I have to keep three months to go to Aspera.
Speaker 2:Porta.
Speaker 1:I have to mention this. This is not a private clinic in Colombia. In Colombia, if you don't have access to the service, you often have access to it by paying. It's just a card. If you don't pay, the currency in Colombia is less. It's more beneficial for us as Europeans. I work with dollars 100%. It costs less. But in Colombia, if you don't have it, you 100%.
Speaker 2:I have a very sad question outside of what I said earlier, unless you have another question Do you pay the bills? I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don go ahead. You don't pay for the bus, do you? I don't pay for the bus, I don't pay for the bus.
Speaker 1:I feel like what do you know?
Speaker 3:No, no, no, I'm a tourist.
Speaker 2:Hello.
Speaker 1:I feel like, with the great success of our tourism and the corporations in Aruba, I feel like there's room to pay more taxes. Of course, corporations are in the rubble. You have space to pay more taxes. Paying more taxes reduces the tax burden of a small man. So if you want us to govern, you have to tackle it with luck. There is no system. I don't know if it's a great word.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it's a great word but there is no structure to contribute in a way that you're supposed to contribute looks nice. Wish it was done. Like you know, 10 years ago when I worked there but I'm going to tell you two things.
Speaker 1:No, no, I'm going to turn you into a counselor.
Speaker 2:Shark, shark, shark. Open the portal. I know it's a good idea.
Speaker 1:No, but I always have an idea of innovation and a creative idea. So I always have people with an open-minded government, people who have creative, innovative ideas. I listen to them and I put them in my head. In this case, we have a project called Eagle Beach Beautification, starting from the Amsterdam Manor, which is in Rotonda de Alhambra Our base is Beautify in the whole strip and, according to the Genitura Properties, which is in the Amsterdam Manor, which is in Rotonda de Alhambra, which is in our public sector, we have invested and we are not committing to maintain it for the next 20, 30 years of the project. I would like to mention something about the High-Rise Area, but I also want to mention the name of the hotel. We want to extend the board of Malmok. So I'm going to get closer to the hotel and tell them. I'm going to tell you what about you? You're investing in us, you're investing in Bortok Because, at the end of the day, you're wasting it to traffic Canary to Bortok, not Rubiano.
Speaker 1:Rubiano uses his existing business as a fisherman, correct, he's wasting it, you're wasting it, and the context is that you're not paying enough for the last thing. So now, exactly.
Speaker 3:I used to work in an Airbnb. Exactly no, no in mass for gain and to your book.
Speaker 1:We buy a pressionary beyond what?
Speaker 3:you keep to tell me no, no, no. If you say honest to me that you're going to eat a deal, you're going to eat a lot of luxury. But, brother, all you have to do is just drive a boardwalk.
Speaker 1:No, no no, no, no.
Speaker 3:And then you're going to have a garage.
Speaker 1:We need to participate more in our community and help more, and you need to chip in and invest in hotels with real coins.
Speaker 2:We need to discuss this.
Speaker 1:We need to discuss this.
Speaker 2:I want to talk about politics with you, I have a show too. We need to become less dependent on tourism.
Speaker 3:We need to diversify our economy.
Speaker 1:But the pain we have is that we are dependent on tourism. If we have a economic pillar, we will choose to stay there for 5, 6, 7 years. What economic pillar? No tour.
Speaker 3:The orange economy is very much developed, I'll put it.
Speaker 2:You don't know anything, I'll put it.
Speaker 1:Yes, I'll put it. There are opportunities in Aruba, but I think that what is good about tourism is that the staff is still involved in the industry, because it gives us a good opportunity. Last year, the Buxiri Hotel was able to sell a lot of good things and today it is still involved in the industry sector. We are still having conversations with different universities in Miami, with the University of Rulanda to see if we can partner up. We are co-investing with the government Underpaid, because you're not the Rubian that attracts people from the sector, because you're. Long working hours, weekends, days of parties underpaid.
Speaker 2:You're not earning that much. I'm waiting if I go to Derby. I'm waiting for people to come. I'm waiting for people to come. I'm waiting for people to come with a tuition for people who are local to come with people, which we see happen numerous times.
Speaker 3:sure, it offers different things. I don't mean to overpopulate the industry, which we see happen numerous times. Okay, let's look for as many things. Your income is the same as yours.
Speaker 1:Now we have too much, I mean something really important when you have a country across the board, a good benchmark and a good manpower planning as a country. I already have here 5, 10, 15 years. What I'm going to have to do? I'm going to have to be an architect. I'm going to have to be more educated.
Speaker 2:I'm going to have to be more doctor, I'm going to have to be more behind the scenes.
Speaker 1:Engineers, engineers exactly what I'm going to have to do as a country, exactly, content creators. We are announcing a plan in the refinery, an ambitious plan, to dismantle. For 20 years, the government of the AFP has been looking for an operator, without success. We did not achieve it. What do we know that we have done? We have done trial and error, and that is what we call insanity. We have done the same thing and the same result. How are you going to dismantle it?
Speaker 2:And the problem with that is they're going to dismantle it. Are you going to dismantle?
Speaker 1:it. Yeah, they're going to. No, no, no, they're going to dismantle it.
Speaker 3:They're going to dismantle it.
Speaker 2:They're going to dismantle it. No, speak to us. How are you going to dismantle it? Then they're going to dismantle it. That's the golden question for those who time. No, speak to us. Okay, okay, okay, Okay, okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. A contaminated area with chemical water.
Speaker 2:We are going to explore it at the bottom.
Speaker 1:Then we will do a study with Aruba Tourism Authority, which is an area near Rogers Beach and has potential that we can develop in the year. We will do a good research to see if there is an opportunity for a marine for mega yachts and we will finish the cruise. The conclusion of the study is that there's a lot of ingredients for this. Aruba is safe, has good infrastructure, we have high networks, we have centers, we have secrets with a good hotel. We have Iberostar opening. We have good gastronomy. Aruba has ingredients to pursue this Luxury yacht. Luxury yachting is trending worldwide. As a matter of fact, Fort Lauderdale invested 2 billion dollars in a marine for mega yachts. St Martin is very successful in this. There is no clientele. We never got persuaded answering your question.
Speaker 1:We have a report. We have a report. We have a report to pass a roadshow on the tour of a cruise company in Miami. Our pitch is vision. Vision is something short term. Our pitch Two companies 15 of them, as you can see to express interest for us to make an investment in a cruise terminal that is in condition that we send a cruise ship from Oranje State to San Nicolas.
Speaker 1:We also have a company there. If we invest in San Nicolas, we ship it to another station in San Nicolas. So we have to discuss what we can do with this. Now I ask myself how are we going to dismantle? During the last two years here, different groups, four groups to approach the government with us as a group, we are willing to dismantle the refinery, sell and re-open the market like scrap metal and the government of Aruba will give a share of the sale. If you don't get a share of the group, you will have to go through a transparent process, have a public report with requirements that will be applied to the country, that will be conditioned, that will be applied as a share, transparent for alternative energy, because we need a vision that we have long term to do something different than just looking for an operator for refinery without success. How many years do you think this will take to dismantle the refinery? It will take three years. It will take three years so.
Speaker 1:I have a year to clean, to clean part of the terrain, one part, what we already mentioned the marine to the mega yacht, to finish the cruise that went on for a year and after a year or two it flew to build something.
Speaker 2:Or a cruise. Is there something?
Speaker 1:more interesting about the cruise, or is it?
Speaker 2:a DVD and the cruise that you have down there. Dvd. We don. We're just catering to the over-tourism. We're back at the current one.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, that's not your intention.
Speaker 3:Pero I feel like this is also some sort of like, un type of money grab, if you, if I may, in the sense of, as we currently know, nos marine life tan fucked up. It's really bad Bringing this type of traffic arriba ese. How are you helping, like, what are we doing for coral bleaching? What are we?
Speaker 3:doing for lionfish. We have a lot of money for fishing and they are fishing behind white dirt like all of these things are really happening, and I also go fishing every day. The sea level is rising, the water is going like it's really bad.
Speaker 1:Yes, but in this way, the intention is not to continue growing, yes, but it's possible.
Speaker 3:It's possible that they park their boats?
Speaker 1:No, the boats are what they have, they stay. And mega yachts I don't know the picture. The clothes are not realistic. I don't know the picture the clothesuba is realistic. I don't know if the picture of Aruba is realistic. I don't know if the picture of Aruba is realistic. I don't know if the picture of Aruba is realistic. I don't know if the picture of Aruba is realistic. I don't know if the picture of Aruba is realistic. I don't know if the picture of Aruba is realistic. I don't know if the picture of Ar Plus a boat I want to know Colts.
Speaker 1:We have 300 colts Of cruiser boats, depending on how much we dispatch To the top of the bridge, so mega yachts 20.
Speaker 3:What does this mean for our marine life, though?
Speaker 1:We are not talking about an area. We are not talking about an area.
Speaker 3:does this mean for our marine life, though Bum-pah-pah.
Speaker 1:Bum-pah-pah, bum-pah-pah.
Speaker 3:Okay, but what does it contaminate more?
Speaker 1:Danguito and what do you mean by that as a destination. So the boat is put in a condition where the boat and the cruiser end up going to LNG In the middle of the waste. We recently were in Cano and Val Cruz, in Zanaruba, to invite us to do a tour so we can show how we are managing the waste, because we are not aware that we are dumping the ocean. So Oceania, the model of the business that we have changed in Europe, amsterdam, has started to increase. We have to be more aware of what to do and what not to do, especially for the conservation of our environment and marine life. In a way, before we came to Dumpco, we were in the territory and we were there and the business was going well. The model of the business has changed a lot. Now we the way you used to get water from the territorial water. You didn't go to the beach, you did business on the beach. The business model changes.
Speaker 3:Let's talk about marine life. Let's go to a segment to talk about marine life. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 3:What is your?
Speaker 2:vision for the future of Aruba's economic pillar, tourism. Consider the need to avoid over-tourism.
Speaker 1:Over-tourism is a global concern.
Speaker 3:We are not talking about over-tourism.
Speaker 1:We are talking about how wetourism and we are very careful with how we are handling our tourism moving forward. And I also think we have a stand, a popular stand that we have towards developers, about how we have a show, like we did before. There are 2,000 rooms that the master has built Outside of the construction. There are 2,000 rooms that the master has built. Our strategy ends with this to build Outside of the construction. In 2000, we had to build the new building. Our change and strategy ends with the act of a more sustainable and responsible tourism.
Speaker 1:What do I know that? I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that. I know that I know and mitigate the expansion of the number of rooms in the hotel. But I think it's a challenge for the developers who have a lot of money, who have a lot of money. It's a challenge for the management to have a good management. If the management has a good management of a court with an impartial judge, then you have the right to acquire a lot of money, because a lot of projects here have the right to acquire money. But we have to take into account that if you continue to grow the way we are working, you will work a month with over tourism. You will work a month with negative consequences for the country. You will have labor shortage. You will not have enough land, the infrastructure will not be loaded. You will have to pay the pension fund. You will have to pay the asset value you are thinking what you are not seeing.
Speaker 3:No, I am thinking that we will not reach a cap.
Speaker 1:We will not reach a cap, but I think what one is missing is that currently we don't get a cap. We do get a cap, but there's another politician in Papua who is going to limit the amount of tourists. Are you talking?
Speaker 2:about carrying capacity. Yes, we don't get a maximum capacity, but a report came out in 2019 of ATA saying that we don't get a carrying capacity In 2019, in 2019, in 2019, the airport that came out.
Speaker 1:There is no conclusion that we came to a certain area to identify with the bot to introduce a new visitor flow management because the area is overcrowded. Ok, so we took that into consideration and we changed the strategy of the motor tourism to a strategy towards more sustainable and responsible tourism strategy. We have a shift. We have a legislation for vacation rentals that we have to go back to. It doesn't exist, but we are talking about hotels. Hotels are a phenomenon that grows exponentially, but vacation rentals, too.
Speaker 1:We have 4 million units in Aruba. With this platform, with the government, with this share, the way it should be done is to go over and never. The sector has to be regulated. We have a law project. We want to launch a new company called Aruba Quality Hospitality Authority, which will control all vacation rentals here with a certain standard of quality in Aruba.
Speaker 1:So send me this browser and website of Airbnb send me properties so I'll see exactly exactly the quality of tourists with Buquia in Aruba $20, $30, $40 for a room for a night. This is not a standard with Buquia Because if you have an intention to buy and charge through a registration number, you will have one room, two rooms, three, four and above. So every year you will have to pay a fee to register this number. You will have to pay a fee to register this number, you will have to pay a person's number.
Speaker 1:You will have to pay a baby, or a baby If you. So if you want to help them, you can go to the person who has the money or the person who has not paid. If you have problems with housing, if you have a shortage, if you have a lot of business, you can go to them. It's very important you can be part of the integral plan of the refinery. We want to come with a sustainable plan to offer 2,500 per cell for our entire unit to get to the house. So the land is a big problem. There's a huge lack of land, there's a huge workload for people to get to the land and there's an incentive for a young professional to come back to the house. So I promise I'll bring my land. I won't bring my house Because I'll come back and I won't live.
Speaker 1:So that's part of the plan of San Nicolás Over tourism is safe. There is something that I completely pay attention to. I want us to take a stand and we take the necessary action to stop and develop and we don't let it go the way it did in the last decade.
Speaker 3:I just want to ask Vava, what do you want to do to raise the maximum cap of tourists with Aruba supposed to earn?
Speaker 1:What I want to say is that we're right about no. We're at 1.3, 1.4 million stayovers, 800, 900,000 tourists with zero.
Speaker 3:That's a good number. What do?
Speaker 1:you want to say Tour? People have a standard of life in Aruba. Tour commercial, small, medium, large Tour what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what.
Speaker 3:What, what.
Speaker 1:What? What no tour de nos no tour. Okay, so don't say that. Hope de nan, hope de nan tanha tempo E hope de nan tan contento, si que tempo nan ta raro E ta dependendo do departamento. Danguito.
Speaker 3:You can't say that.
Speaker 1:Claro, claro E ta dependendo do departamento, pero nos hace o research junto com a Universidade de Aruba, so a me da gusta. We're the facts. Ah, I didn't know.
Speaker 3:I didn't know if you wanted to say that, yeah, where they at.
Speaker 2:You're kind of on it. Where you at, where are you at?
Speaker 1:Barbie too.
Speaker 3:Exactly my point.
Speaker 1:You're working there right now 100%. But if you put a group of people happy with something, you don't have to be happy. It's simple. Same thing with hotels. In a hotel, you do an inquiry, you do research and the result is that the majority is happy. But what's the problem.
Speaker 3:There are people behind In a hotel. We see a labor shortage.
Speaker 1:That's a big problem with us, not only in hotels, but also in the F&B sector, because there's a huge labor shortage. But on the other hand, what we have to do as a government is to make the permit process more flexible. I'm going to ask you to open your mouth. In Aruba, there are between 15,000 and 17,000 undocumented people. They have jobs, but they are not participating in our economy, they are not contributing. They are simply illegal.
Speaker 1:So we have to promise that we will take a decision as a government to continue importing people from the countryside. We have to legalize the people here as long as we have proof that they have a job. So this is the first phase that we have to go through to make sure that we can fill in the vacancies that we have in the sector, because if there are hotels, we won't open them If the hotel is scrambling to hire employees. The F&B sector is also going through a difficult situation because there is simply no worker. So we have to look for ways to legalize it so that the company can going to take a service.
Speaker 3:What are the steps to legalize that? What are the requirements? For example, a word from America. For example, the US citizenship, for example, the hymn, for example.
Speaker 1:Certain things, yes, but that's the way to get a passport In the Netherlands. You get a Dutch passport. You get a Dutch Tuts passport.
Speaker 3:Exactly. But if we're going to legalize these people to come in our hotel and deal with the tourists that are majority English speakers, what requirements will we have to make them?
Speaker 1:Of course, the tips, housekeeping Waiters, waiters of the high.
Speaker 3:it's an incentive to put high the tips bartender tips.
Speaker 1:I was talking to a guy who was working at a good hotel, I was thinking I'm tired of going to the beach. I'm tired, I want to go to the beach. I want to go to the beach, but I want to go to the beach with the entrance. It's good $120, $140 a day but if I go to him, he'll be there. I'll be the supervisor, but I'll be there, I'll be there. I said, but now I'll have a make-up mind. I'll be there, I'll be there, I'll be there, I'll be there, I'll be there, I'll be there. It's time to lose.
Speaker 3:It's time to start the essential part Of the case the person.
Speaker 1:Hey, it's time to put A little more money. If you say what salary You're getting Net or net net- Salary.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be Working in the industry. Hey, I'm not going to be A bitch, I'm going to be Nightlife, and how's your experience? Great, what do you think In the tip industry, if anything?
Speaker 3:Your salary. I'm not going to Spare you. I'm going to Spare you. It's true.
Speaker 1:Your salary Is like Whatever Spare you, it's time To pay your salary.
Speaker 2:A month.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to Spare you. I'm not going to Spare you. I'm not going to Spare you.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to. I was lying.
Speaker 3:I wish a bitch, would I was lying. I wish a bitch would.
Speaker 1:No, bro, they were talking about it. Say I have to.
Speaker 3:Don't do it. Don't do it.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, no. Don't fuck around, don't fuck around. It was a time. See, that didn't take long.
Speaker 2:Brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother Brother.
Speaker 3:Brother, brother, brother, brother Brother.
Speaker 2:Brother, brother Brother, brother, brother Brother.
Speaker 1:Brother, brother, brother Brother.
Speaker 2:Brother, exactly 100%. Yeah yeah, salario mínimo. Sí Tu gente Baja el Gelín avisa, no, tu me avisa sí I will great. No sé cómo bien de cosas sé, pero cómo de controlar? Si I'm going to do a negotiation, I'm going to force my salary mínimo. No, what do you mean by that? I mean I have this whole product that costs one or two dollars to see how much I can cover the expenses here.
Speaker 1:And this is the downside I have here. Every time the government has an initiative to increase the minimum wage, the merchants don't absorb it. It's breaking the door of all prices. Of course, this is a very fast thing. My wife recently told me that our bar is infested with good material. All construction material is 22% to 10%. Just to stimulate, to encourage. If someone is working at home, there is a break. For how about?
Speaker 2:food. That's why we need exactly.
Speaker 1:I don't understand now our bar is infested from 22% to 10%. So expect that the construction material will be cheaper, more economical. No material is low. On the contrary, it has even risen.
Speaker 1:We know that the private sector will take advantage of the moment to make a little more money. So I always think of the government for this hope for our private sector to also be An example of a big problem we discussed this last week Fruit and vegetables. A problem of 0%, 0% of the fruit and vegetables. Still the price is very high in the supermarket. We open the border with Venezuela right To import fruit and vegetables. No, for importation only, not for traffic. We import fruit and vegetables from Venezuela, which is a boat, not a car, who also buys fruit. Okay, but why?
Speaker 3:not make money on Corso Mês, as soon as that's where you have a market buy the trip the place you come buy whatever you need to buy.
Speaker 2:It's a market.
Speaker 1:I went up and said we're still in a negotiation with Santa Rosa. Santa Rosa is here. I have to keep, or whatever you need to buy. It's a market. It's a market. It's a market. It's a market. It's a market. It's a market. It's a market. It's a market. It's a market. It's a market. It's a market. It's a market. It's a market.
Speaker 3:It's a market it's a market.
Speaker 2:This is a new one. It's been abandoned for six years it's been bought.
Speaker 1:It's the second floor. It's the building of Aruba Porto Torti. The floor is going to be a Western Inspiration Center. It's a round, another band. We're going to beautify it. We have a full plan of beautification for the Reinstadt, so we have a part of Wafchiquito Tamba just to. I want to see a market in a way that is a little more beautiful.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you can send a mini flower market or whatever to the back of the house. Exactly, it's a private land, it's private.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you're willing to sell it and when you ask for it. It's a land that we want to direct to offer fruit and vegetables in a way that is accessible, like.
Speaker 2:I will Got any questions to the kiosk, to the Port of Torto, but that's what I have in mind for the next term if we can. Do you have any questions? No, no, go ahead. I don't know if you have any more, but what about San Nicolas Rado? Obviously you're going to walk over the mega yachts ports, whatever, let's go more into the town area. What's your plan for the town?
Speaker 1:area of San Nicolas, in the town area. We are encouraging more tourists. We are opening a tourism office in the back. We are planning to open another one in the city. In the back. We have 1,200 tourists visiting the office. They are going to see what San Nicolas has to offer, what its culture is, what its history is. They are going to eat good food. The result is very successful. We are going to have the. The result is very successful. We came back to the Island Festival and we came back to Luna. The result is a good festival for 13.
Speaker 1:We have to do what we have to do. Once we manage to dismantle the refinery, we will also lift the lift. We will lift the lift. It's a bandage, it's a wall. Once we start, we automatically. It's a band of two. It's a wall, it's a roof, it's a view to the sea. But once you start in Anang, automatically. You want to have a future where you can invest in San Nicolas. You want San Nicolas to have hope, hope, potential and after hope. We, as the government, the ministry, we look for the right. It's full of baby beach, rogers Beach, ponebec in its glory, the ministry. We searched for them. I was in the area of Baby Beach, rogers Beach. I was in glory the way I was in the area 60, 70,. Up there we were singing in the sports.
Speaker 3:Rogers Beach is not where I live.
Speaker 1:No but it's not clear. I don't have time. I'm in, I'm in another.
Speaker 3:How are you?
Speaker 1:If you tell, me Tell me as you should.
Speaker 3:As you should, it's too late, but I'm not going to be late.
Speaker 1:The Baby Beach project I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be. I think you're right.
Speaker 2:What are you going to do with your life? You're going to use tennis. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't have a business with tennis. You're going to use it for the people, indirectly. No, I'm like a dog that walks on the street.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, you're going to use it for the people. Yes, yes, yes. She puts it like this she has obstacles on her way, but the way she does it with the ball of her foot, she's over-saturating it, it's over-saturating.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's over-saturating. But, the baby beach is also the baby beach is it's nasty man.
Speaker 2:The baby beach is over-saturating. It's nasty man, it's nasty man, it's nasty man.
Speaker 1:I'm not a.
Speaker 3:Rogers Beach type of person, but I have to say Roger Beach is my last stop. So what you have to do is build it. If a tourist doesn't come, you have to build it how you got that for yourself, but for the other year this quarter the project was planned and I wanted to talk to Rogers Beach.
Speaker 1:I wanted to use it more for both our local and our tourists. I can put a better infrastructure.
Speaker 3:You can put more sushi too. I don't know if.
Speaker 1:I can invest enough. I can invest in 100 bars of sushi, but it's not enough.
Speaker 2:I think it's a different game, apart from the Red Light District. What do you think?
Speaker 1:Well, the Red Light District, it's already there, but the problem is that Rubico, biara, purba, it's a real problem. It's a real problem. It's a real problem. It's a real problem. It's a real problem. It's a real problem. It's a real problem. It's a real problem. It's a real problem. It's a real problem. It's a real problem. It's a real problem. It's a real problem. It's a real problem. It's a real problem. It's a. It's coming with another type of development more bar, more cafes, more nightlife. I combined it with the way I do it in Amsterdam.
Speaker 3:But how do you bring those in? It's beautiful to see, but Most of the places here it's not that easy.
Speaker 1:I'm a realist politician. I don't like to announce fantastic plans and unrealistic plans. The first thing that happens is that people have confidence in the truth and refinery is going to dismantle it for another type of development. So if you have a good, good, good land, you don't want to put an Arabian or a developer in it. You will put a plate in the. They can easily invest in the company. That's the reality. Once we have the promise, we have the vision, we have the courage to do it. We have the vision, we have the change in the way we are going to participate in the economic development. So I think we have the to take a step to govern a new city with this process of an open bar, understating the public state, to make it better, so that at least we can start to ramp up the ground for another type of development.
Speaker 3:But as a person says, nicolas, we as a city, especially as a local, we are in a hurry. I have my company is not good and whatever, but I feel that I'm against these small businesses like San Nicolas what do you envision as a young entrepreneur, as a person who has progressed?
Speaker 1:what do you envision for San Nicolas?
Speaker 3:San Nicolas doesn't have too many. We say this all the time San Nicolas doesn't have too many developments.
Speaker 3:You lose the culture, Even for Carnival, people say San Nicolas is a place where you can really enjoy and you're more on the beach. But San Nicolas has a vibe. It's a feeling. What we're used to is foot traffic. That's what we were always used to, and we're more like we're going to Cannabis. We're going to it being just foot traffic. That's what we were always used to and we were more like we were just, we were just walking around. Walking around, we were just angry. It was just a sense of community and that's why it didn't exist anymore, because the cost of living is just incredible. We didn't have to afford to do absolutely nothing. Once you decide, you know fuck it, I'm going to do something for Fuck it. There's nothing worth it. If you invest in the beach, I would be better off.
Speaker 2:If you invested in the food traffic.
Speaker 3:But I decided I'm losing the food traffic and my investment. Everything gets delayed, everything gets delayed and I put in rights. Why are we freaking, paying in rights? Kiko is protecting us. I don't understand. It makes no sense. Pa' Kiko botta paga tanto costo. Don't tell me, mama Riba. Yeah, I walk in pa' him.
Speaker 1:Pa' bende un simple producto, me tinga pa'i paga Turcos in advance I say the culpa de partido chiquito si nos junior parten en gobierno, nos hace in the junior part of the government. So we are making a reform. We are making a reform. We are going to have a BTW stelter. It's going to be a BBO. I remember BBO and the Friends came with a single BTW rate. We have a professional job to introduce a BTW. At the moment, when we arrive to present this here in the Council of Ministers to convince us we part of the coalition with this root intention to really make a fiscal reform, to make a B2B-Stelzer, we are not going to do it. No, we are not going to support this here in Parliament and without this the law will not pass For those who are not going to support it.
Speaker 1:We are not going to do it. We are not going to doing studies and, according to the study, b2a also causes a higher inflation than BBO under the grain. We have differentiated our opinion. So we want B2A to be a way to go to avoid having a BBO under the grain and to increase the BBO as well. So, double M, we have differentiated our opinion, but this is the situation. We are going to govern in a coalition, because if we don't have a solution in Parliament, baby or tambe Tamare, double M Que me te au me ta diferenciado de opinión per essaita situação hora bota gobernado em coalición.
Speaker 1:Que se búnota em Jesus de em parlamento búnota passa ningún lei E cada vez, over and over nos ta traindo imenso situação com diferente lei, com nanta condicionado condicion, if you don't know me, I'm going to vote. So the type of behavior I consider to be on-eights, to be able to vote for the people, to vote for the people's therapy, for progress and well-being. And I feel that I'm going to vote for the people because I don't have a political survival based on a party program. I'm going to act in history since 1986. No small party survived 12 elections, more, more, less, if there is. I will act in history. Since 1986. No small party has survived 12 elections, very, very little. If there is an election, if there is a government in the parliament, if there is a disappearance, an integrant in the Tarzan way will be another party. So this is a small party. It does not have political, economic, financial stability and, at the end of the day, for a country to progress you must have stability. Thank you for saying that I'm not saying that I'm saying that.
Speaker 1:I've been doing it for a very long time. We don't know what is the big party, but if you compare Aruba, where Aruba is in comparison the region I'm comparing is the Caribbean Aruba is a better place in terms of words, culture and history here in the Caribbean. Aruba is the best job in every sense of the word culture and Izan here in the region. In my opinion. It's not perfect. It's not perfect, but Aruba is progressing. Aruba is developing. It's not just in a good way. It's a job that I work with in this way, but in general, aruba is a country that is not a product of charity.
Speaker 3:Yes, but the people are developing without us putting in our own work and without any government help or anything like that. The people are not going to depend on the government to steal certain things, and that's just the fact and the reality of it. If you don't push through for a month, you won't make it, and I understand that. It's a business, it's everything. It's a government job.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, but in this sense it's a government job to facilitate the citizens to have a good life. If you're a small businessman, you have to have a good life. You have to have a good life to facilitate to have a good life.
Speaker 1:So if you want to have a, good life, you have to get a job. So if I want to get a job, I have to admit that I have a financial space. You can think how do I do it? Now I'm going to govern. I have obligations to my family. Now I'm going to manage finances in my own house. I have obligations to my family. So govern is priority. What do I put as priority? What do I promise to my family? I promise to my family that I have obligations to my as a priority. What do you promise as a first and second priority? Always, the first priority of the government is to fulfill the financial obligations. So what's left is to invert this. So we have a little financial space at another time to give us an incentive in the small and medium-sized business, and especially the small man, to improve his quality of life.
Speaker 2:So you're saying that you're not, but I get it.
Speaker 1:It's a system that has to be more complicated in order to convince the government to reform, when we start to raise our water prices to lower inflation. But it's full of costs.
Speaker 3:But he says or whatever service you're giving to your business, you're paying a lot of money.
Speaker 2:But if I buy something for my neighbor, I pay $100 to my neighbor. It costs me $150, and I pay $150. Damn, it's almost double the price. It's kind of like same thing with my services. I want a better camera. I pay a lot of much for electronic devices. They have it on the border At the end of the day. They put an extra plate in my service.
Speaker 3:But the set costs a lot for a family, for a family camera.
Speaker 2:I have a chance, but I have a crown. How much is it for a phone? 2,500.
Speaker 3:I have it for $80. What are we doing? It's like what are we doing, what are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing? What?
Speaker 2:are we doing?
Speaker 3:What are we doing? What are?
Speaker 2:we doing? What are we doing, what are we doing, what are we doing, what are we doing?
Speaker 3:What are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing? What are? That's what you're saying.
Speaker 2:No, no, I don't like it. Okay, legalize medicinal cannabis and the medicine that is imported every day with 0.2% CBD.
Speaker 1:So it's 0.2% CBD, according to me. So what we want to do is, in our country we have a DINST medicinal cannabis in a way that we know how to pass In the face of complicated things with the commercial bank. We have a conversation with the president of the association of banks, who is currently Mr Pierre Raffini from RBC. Yes, around the world I don't know if it's a reason or an obstacle to obstacle an investor who wants to invest in cannabis and a full industry. Exactly the day we started this process, we had an open kind of tender 70 groups expressed interest in investing in the industry here in Aruba, 70 groups and our screening group is here and if you are safe, you will be sure to be in 10 groups with potential with 100. The group that you are in will make it happen, but the work of the bank becomes very difficult. One day a banker will say you have to come back here for a year. I will be here for two years. I will be very interested to pursue, to really make it happen. I'm going to be interested in pursuing the truth and I want to achieve it. I want to fulfill my agreement with the government. I agree with Ricardo from Partido Red and we have this program. But I don't know about me. But I have to fulfill the agreement with the other people and start the period of government.
Speaker 1:So we started a process. We prepared the concept of law. Oh, I suppose to deliver the concept of law to the president of parliament, because they will treat the law here to legalize cannabis. They will turn on the green light. They will turn on the light, everything will be fine. I, as a health minister, will not go to the election without my party program. Finally, I will present the concept of law here in parliament. So I'm sorry, this is a person who is not so interested in cannabis. They want it, but they don't have the time to do it. They want it, they have the potential, they hope it. The association of banks, of commercial banks, is more open to open a bank account now.
Speaker 2:There's a way to skip banks to look for a private investor, a private institute.
Speaker 1:The problem is that if you have an offshore account, you have to pay taxes to get in here. You can't register in the city, you can't go to the city to get in here. There are no people, there are no cars, there are no offshore accounts. So it's easy if you use an offshore account, but if you want to get in here after, but if you want to have an award here later on, the bank will open it.
Speaker 3:Every time it's becoming more normal. I mean, you're not brothers. You have a meeting. Guys, buy tickets, be for real and you're not a tourist minister, you know how many tourists are serious. They don't actually have a book about Jamaica it's more legal than that. We're losing out. Stop saying, okay, this is great, you like baby steps on the.
Speaker 1:A-map Kiko. For how long will you put it on? For how long will it take? Let's say one year, Six months. If the next term ends, we will not have a bank association.
Speaker 2:What time is it? It's been four years. Let's say it's been a year.
Speaker 1:If the bank association doesn't open, we will have to start a process with it. We will have to put some investors. The only dilemma is that we will have to build a land. Thank you.
Speaker 3:Check it dealers now. Check it dealers now. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay outdoors you name it, not what I can say there ain't nothing, not the bomb okay, but it says okay, so decriminalizing, that's a good step. See, for how long do you want me to say this?
Speaker 1:I don't want to say this. This is going to be shared with the Ministry of Justice, rocky you're still in the ministry.
Speaker 2:You're still in the ministry. Let's just say Rocky, you, I'm not in the ministry. I'm not in the ministry. I'm not in the ministry. I'm not in the ministry, I'm not in the ministry.
Speaker 3:I'm not in the ministry. I'm not in the ministry. I'm not in the ministry. I'm not in the ministry, I'm not in the ministry.
Speaker 2:I'm not in the ministry. I'm not in the ministry. I'm not in the ministry.
Speaker 3:I'm not a shark. You're still a shark. You're still a safe zone. They're chilling. You're not causing problems, don't mind me. Alcohol is legal. It's legal.
Speaker 2:Don't mind me, go on. I think we're going to an end right now. You actually have to go, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, the show started six minutes ago.
Speaker 1:Okay, six hours. I put a sticker on you.
Speaker 3:Okay, go, block the traffic Exactly.
Speaker 1:We'll see you next time I'm coming. I'm coming See you soon. Bye.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for coming to the show. If you have anything, I'll ask you a question.
Speaker 3:To Kiko. He's enjoying it. I felt like somebody's coming. I'm retelling.
Speaker 2:The last time you were here, you were forcing us. I was thinking about in Trompinhos hey, pay a monitor if you want to walk. The last time you were here you didn't have monitors. You forced us to walk and we can't be private in the States.
Speaker 1:Damn Like no initiative Go, go, go, go, go, go, go go. 30 seconds, 30 seconds, 30 seconds, our industry, our economy, and make it happen Something different, something different 5% off-grid Another type of crowd of tourists. Exactly, we want to make this model for the future, for those who want to build Exactly this model Lead certified, off-grid, no waste management, no waste management.
Speaker 2:Super beautiful project More private places like Borba Hotel Ch. It's a private place, it's small.
Speaker 1:It's a boutique type. Yes, it's a beautiful place in the future.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's worth going to work, go crazy. We'll see you later. We'll see you later. Camera the co-general will go back to Dangi, number 2, and stay there for a day. Number 1.
Speaker 1:Okay, no, I want to show that I have a track record. I want to show that we are going to handle the most difficult situation in history the pandemic and that we have two pockets tourism and public health. I want to show that we are going to get out of this country, where there is the worst crisis, to improve tourism, to improve the economy, to invest in care, to avoid problems. But here on the street, I want to be a politician, to be transparent, without attacking any other politician, and I'm going to show honesty. I'm going to show that I have a vision, a vision for the country. I want to be a politician, I want to be successful. I want to have a vision long term what I want for the country. I want to be a person who is young, with hope and energy, with love and a big heart for the people of the city. I want you to be enough for us to achieve what we want, to give us confidence for us to have a good team and to support us for 6-10 years.
Speaker 2:Okay, I have something to say.
Speaker 3:First of all I want to say social media wise, you're doing a fucking good job, but the effect that we have Tata Social media wise, Pus ta rindo Fucking bom trabalho Me da saque and daremo botim Pero effect Que nos ta guapo Tata, Nos ta guapo Como familia, Nos ta guapo Outdoors Social media wise.
Speaker 2:I'll give you that, ryan. Creatividad Shut up.
Speaker 3:Shut up. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry Sorry.
Speaker 2:Sorry, sorry, sorry Sorry Per that part. Definitely, definitely, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you, thank you, say no more fam.
Speaker 3:Say no more fam.
Speaker 2:You said what you said, and it's funny because my question has kind of very similarities. I have a last question. I have a question for Ursel and Otmar. Who is right, otmar or Ursel?
Speaker 1:Otmar oh.
Speaker 3:Oh, I'm clear, okay.
Speaker 2:Do you want to take your wallet back?
Speaker 1:I have a wish to move my wallet to Cabo, mitra Bono, but from another band. I'm going to open another return. What would you like If you had the opportunity? Infrastructure and transport, ooh, okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, good, I'm going to be a leader. Wow, all right, guys. I hope you enjoyed the episode. Leave a comment. If you can't, or if you disagree, please comment down below if you agree, if you disagree, we'll talk. Thank you to the social media team, the creative team we'll talk. Have a full conversation. Thank you, guys, and good luck in the election. Bye, do you like my shirt? Nice do you like it? No?
Speaker 3:black and white, sir, black and white, sir, black and white.