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No Filter in Paradise
Cultural Conversations: Preserving Bonaire's Heritage cu Boi Antoin | EP 204
Franklin Domenico shares his passionate mission to preserve Bonaire's cultural heritage, history, and natural environment amid increasing tourism development and globalization pressures. His work spans decades of interviewing locals, collecting historical artifacts, and creating educational programs that help maintain the island's unique identity.
• Comparison of how Bonaire, Aruba, and Curaçao approach preservation of their cultural heritage
• Discussion of African heritage in the Caribbean islands and how family names trace back to plantation history
• The UNESCO recognition
• How tourism development threatens both natural environments and historical buildings
• The collection of documenting Caribbean history through his foundation
• Preserving traditional knowledge about medicinal plants and cultural practices
• The importance of balancing economic growth with cultural preservation
• Domingo's personal journey of interviewing over 2,300 people to document oral histories
If you're interested in learning more about Bonaire's history and culture, visit archivobonero.com and cubomes.org to explore their digital archives and educational resources.
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Speaker 1:I don't know, but I feel like you're not going to be there. It's been six months, true.
Speaker 2:I've normalized myself, so go on. Okay, guys, I'll ask you a question. Right At what point? You know I you are reading Basta over the minute, boy. Right At what point is this the first moment you realize that you are super proud of being a Bonairean?
Speaker 1:What is it for you? If you agree with that? Hey, bam, bam bam, let's go. I was born in 1996. 1996? 1996. Wow, I had a chance to come here. Hey, let's go, let's go. Good day to you, man. I was born in the 70s. He started talking to me about things from before, things from his childhood youth. I had no interest in starting a business. I was born in the 20s. A job for 25 years or so, so I listened to it, but at one point I had no interest. So I started to feel proud of Buneiro, for Buneiro, its people, its neighborhood. I came from a neighborhood north of Salinha, so I started to live in a neighborhood north of Salinas, so I was born in a neighborhood. I started to read about it when I was a kid and then I started to read about it a few years later. It's a story about a neighborhood, but unfortunately I didn't have the time to read about it.
Speaker 1:I started to read about it, but unfortunately, to look at the book based on information that he gave me. It creates pride, it creates interest, but it's interested in history, culture and nature Three things. You know you're a young man. You're a young man, you know you're a young man?
Speaker 2:No, never Sorry.
Speaker 1:Don't say you're sad, no, I'm not.
Speaker 2:The teacher is sad. I said it once. I'm sad, sir. The master is sad. He doesn't know what to do.
Speaker 1:He doesn't know. He doesn't know what to do. He doesn't know anything Before we used to cook three stones. We used to put them in the pot. Oh, okay, okay, okay, three stones. For me it's about culture, nature and history. I remember a little bit of one. Yes, I remember Okay. Nice, ah, so you're going to come in, and boy, yes, you're going to come in right. Yes, yes. So now that we're, Let me explain to you how we're recording. Oh wow, oh, wow Okay.
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Speaker 3:Guys, thank you. I hope this is a good episode.
Speaker 1:I hope so, I hope so, I hope so, I hope so, I hope so, I hope so, I hope so, I hope so, I hope so, I hope so, I hope so.
Speaker 3:I hope so. I like to shave my beard, I like to shave my beard.
Speaker 1:I like to shave my beard. I like to shave my beard. I like to shave my beard. I like to shave my beard, I like to shave my beard.
Speaker 3:I like to shave my beard. I like to shave my beard. I like to shave my beard.
Speaker 1:I like to shave my beard.
Speaker 3:I like to shave my beard.
Speaker 1:I like to shave my beard.
Speaker 3:I Basically I'm going to give you some history knowledge not just from Bonner, but from Corso and Aruba, aruba, aruba, aruba, aruba, aruba, aruba, aruba.
Speaker 1:Aruba, aruba, aruba, aruba, aruba, aruba, aruba, aruba, aruba, aruba, aruba.
Speaker 3:Aruba. Aruba. That's facts If you think that the number of Dutch people, but if you think that all three islands combined it's a lot, it's a lot.
Speaker 2:I would believe that it's a lot. Plus we reproduce it. We have a lot of people here, ah, but if you want it to be a and this I'm is it a key recruiting for the population in the history, in the?
Speaker 1:past you know, in the in the in the past. Oh, it's a bad. Back then I'm fancy. Ah now, no, no, be bad was an honor. I am our columbine. That in what lady in Aruba? Yeah, um, yeah, to work at school, eh, that's why I'm here to talk about the interviews with Shane Aya. For example, his father is Maybelline Arons maybelline, you know his father. He's a musician with Shane Aya. So I'm here to talk about the interviews with Shane, but the interview is in a way that I don't hear much. I don't hear much. I don't hear much. I don't hear much. What is a story?
Speaker 3:about a person who doesn't hear, like a story about a person who doesn't hear, a story that you don't hear. A story that you don't hear. A story that you don't hear, oh shit, I don't hear. No, but it's a story that you don't hear Like damn, I don't know maker, and so yeah, it's true, it's facts like what the fuck is this, All of that exactly, and the one telephone, the big one, the one with the cable, the wall, the screen, the touchscreen, the movie, yeah, Let the luck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're going to fix it, protect it, and then we'll do it. Imagine, look here how is it.
Speaker 3:It's a process. How long does it take to take a portrait like this? How?
Speaker 1:is it?
Speaker 3:It's a process.
Speaker 1:You put it in a camera.
Speaker 3:Correct.
Speaker 1:You put it in a film. Uh-huh, you put it in here.
Speaker 3:So as soon as you take the film? It's no, but as I said, it Correct.
Speaker 1:I put it in the water and then I put another chemical called StopBat.
Speaker 3:It's a process.
Speaker 1:I shake it once and then I put it in the water and then I fix it. Fixing it gives a layer of protection. If you fix it, it will become yellow, it will become brown. Stop.
Speaker 3:Stop, stop.
Speaker 1:Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
Speaker 2:Stop Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop Stop.
Speaker 1:Stop. I know how much chocolate you like. I also like snorri. I don't know how long it takes For this.
Speaker 3:You're here for 20 minutes. 15 minutes. Yeah, we're not late. Half an hour.
Speaker 1:We're not late for Coranta. We're not late for Coranta, but if you go, you're going one step back.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, it's true, no, no.
Speaker 1:One step back takes more time. I was talking about 40,. One portrait, two portraits. I had time to develop a text type, send it to the console, type it again, and then I could do a certain treatment for a film. Then I could see what it was like certain treatment for a film. So I'm going to do it and I'm going to see if it's good. I'm going to do a process.
Speaker 3:I'm going to do a process, a coran.
Speaker 1:I'm going to do a process. I'm going to do a coran. You can imagine I'm going to do a process.
Speaker 3:I have an idea.
Speaker 1:I have an idea.
Speaker 3:I'm going to do a process.
Speaker 2:I'm going to check point color.
Speaker 3:I don't know if it's a process I don't know if it's a process I'm going to dive into the history of Bonero. Okay, let's go.
Speaker 2:Tell us a little more about preserving. Preserving Okay, let's go, Okay. So tell us a little more about preserving the heritage of Buneiro. How important is this scene for me?
Speaker 1:Yeah, for me, for the world, let's go. You know it's a matter of history at school, so history is important. You have to have an interpretation of history. You know you have to come. It's important to have a good interpretation of history, to know who was born, who was born, to know how it was made and also to connect with the future, to not just go back to our ancestors. It's important to have a good history.
Speaker 2:Ah, yes, I agree with you. It happens all the time. You don't have a problem afterwards. You do, you do. I don't know if you feel like school is doing a good job, not just in Buneiro. Do you feel like school is doing a good job to improve the history of Buneiro?
Speaker 1:I have to answer this question. I promise you no.
Speaker 2:What did you feel when you?
Speaker 1:didn't do it.
Speaker 2:No, I was like I'll be back.
Speaker 1:No, I didn't feel anything. No-transcript. I don't know anything, I don't know that we have we have generation, but young people don't know it. For example, abraham Boulevard, abraham, I don't know. But not only history and culture, but also natural stone for us, and culture, but also, as I said, the stone of nature, and that's why we, because of the endemic, because of the disease, we don't know what to do. We have to be patient, we have to be patient, we have to be patient and we don't know, it's simple.
Speaker 1:It's simple. We don't know how to do it. We don't know. Yeah, how come?
Speaker 2:But you can see over the Christopher Columbus when you mix the market with Bonero. Yeah, I don't know over the Christopher Columbus when we have next to do with Bonero.
Speaker 3:Yes, we'll see the Christopher Columbus, but no we'll pay attention, but we'll see the details of Bonero's story over the Christopher Columbus.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes yes, martha, it's a course, martha, martha, christopher Columbus before.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, but even that even that with nature like we're we're killing ourselves to do something. That's true, but what happens? What grows? We're using it as medicine for us. We're not using it. We're using it as a chopper to sell it.
Speaker 1:So it's bad we're buying medicine no we're, we're, we're. Aruba is also our master of the least precious, our least cost, our remedy. Fortunately, aruba has a couple of them. I thought I'd interview them too. North, for example, do you know of Joana Figueroa? No, I've heard of her. I know of North.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:Incredible. But what is the point? No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3:No no no no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1:No. So I was in the hospital and I was sitting in the chair with a cup and I was looking at the medicine Natural, natural. So I was in the hospital and I was looking at the medicine. So I was in the hospital and I was looking at the medicine. So I was in the hospital and I was looking at the medicine. So I was in the hospital and I was looking at the medicine. So I was in the hospital and I was looking at the medicine. So I was in the hospital. I'm a cook. I'm a cook. It's different. I'm a cook. My name is Yanni Kofi. You know him. He's a cook, but he has a book, a book. I don't know his name. It's a book, but it's like that. This is a little cheaper For us, it's cheaper.
Speaker 3:Whatever you have there, you can have it for $7. You can have it for $7. You can have it for $7. You can have one pill fixed off. Whatever you have there, you can say paracetamol, Say paracetamol. One pill affects all Erectile dysfunction paracetamol.
Speaker 2:If that doesn't say something, if that doesn't register something a pill for Turks something doesn't work.
Speaker 3:Paracetamol removes pain and it fights symptoms.
Speaker 1:Let's see what we have Paracetamol yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, thank you. Can you send me more? I want to have a question for you.
Speaker 2:I want to have a question for you.
Speaker 1:We'll be right back. Please Use logic, barcadera.
Speaker 2:Parker Bargo.
Speaker 1:That's it, that's it, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 2:That's it.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, yes yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes.
Speaker 3:Yes, my name is Miles Miles, I'm a personal contact. Talk to you, talk to you. But we're going to talk about history. But what is it like I'm going to mention now that nothing has been a good job to introduce the history of money? How do you want to make it important for your curriculum team to have the history of money At least six months? Yes, but we know.
Speaker 1:We know the history, the culture. We know who he is. We know who he is. I interviewed my mother. I know who he is, but I didn't know him. So we don't know exactly what is the origin. We explain that it's African Benin. This is correct. Benin Germany. We invite them to come. So in general, most of the women in Aruba have DNA. In general, especially in Aruba, we can see the topographic name of Aruba thing a.
Speaker 1:DNA in John a opie for a special mint. In a Rubino is a mozzarella sacco. Nomad and topographic on Aruba to the nominant the idiom arwak die Mari.
Speaker 2:Yamanote Light, light, light, light light.
Speaker 1:So he played a big role in the history of the world, but there are five or six times. You know right, you know who the boy is.
Speaker 3:Yes, I know it's not a big role, it's not like he's a DJ, it's not like that. But there are a lot of things in Aruba. I mean, I don't know. I'm going to say how Aruba developed, Like in the time of Injang or who was in Ar. How did you develop your music? How did you start? I mean, you have this interview with someone who has a lot of experience in music, but you don't have the best behavior. You have a lot of money and you're not really into it. So you have this history with people who know you. What shape do you have in your music?
Speaker 1:My music has a lot good origin in India. I will mention the name.
Speaker 1:It is a very well preserved, of its culture, of its history, in India or Ameri-India. So the word India is not correct. So we are from India, a little bit like Christopher Columbus, good friend. I am from India why not? I have a friend, christopher Columbus, but I?
Speaker 1:Aruba has its own origin in Zhang, it's true, but it's a race of Aruba, it's a European country. What's the name? A German? I'm from Zuzabeek. I'm from Zuzabeek, right, I'm from Zuzabeek. I'm from Aruba, the Melendez, what Susabik? No, madam, I put my name in Aruba.
Speaker 1:Aruba is made in the past with an African origin. There are many Brazilians in Aruba with a strong African ingredient, with the Tambo. I don't know if you know, but Aruba is a man, a garden with a stronger African ingredient, with a lot of tambourine. I don't know if you understand, but in a way an anthropologist, dr Luc Alofs, wrote a book called Slavin Zonder Plantage, a very interesting book. It's a book based on the investigation of the African ingredient in the Arab population. Now I'm going to go out and I'm going to complain. I'm going to falsify the story because I'm a little bit negative, but I'm a Slavic, I'm from the plantation. I'm not from the plantation, but I'm from the area where I grew up, but I'm not from the animal farm. But it was a child of beast. The father and the father are an indication that it has something to do with the child of beast. But now that they have realized, they have become conscious, until they start accepting an African, descendant African.
Speaker 1:I have been active in the Aruba Library, which is part of the Caribbean or Arubiana. I have been paying attention to this. I have been looking at African cattivo in Aruba. I think it was a good development, but it is a simple example. I don't know the number of cattivo, in particular with the shape Desarroio. Um ampla simpulimita do nabo de nome de cativo, na particular con a forma Nanta bolto e nome e cativo na na boneiro de Suarez, ora na libertad. Na abira Serous de Lampatras. Tinha sonante de Brot abira Torbet. Tinha sonante de Ellis. Abira Silei Assine. Um bom ampla Quem da Torbet. Alice Amirassilei.
Speaker 3:I have a good example. Who is that?
Speaker 1:Oduber Dubero, Oduber Dubero. I have a variant of that. I have a lot.
Speaker 3:I have a lot, I know.
Speaker 1:Soros, One of my friends growing up.
Speaker 3:His family is Soros. He was originally from Harry Soares, he was educated. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
Speaker 1:Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. I have a name that I don't recognize. I put it behind the name of my mother. I don't know if it's a name of a government, a name of a king. I call her Martis or Marti. I call her Catalina. I call her Martis or Catalina.
Speaker 3:I have a name that I mother would call her son Blanca. She would call her son Yanchi.
Speaker 1:That was a custom. That Emanciana, her name, is on the front, she has her freedom, she is have here is also on the border of the government. We have Siana, uliana, mariana, dorothea, and so on. We have a lot of farms that are directly from Africa. We have a lot of farms in Africa. I don't know if you can see it, but in Africa, wanga Yanga, kofi Domakase, marcera.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you can see it, but in Africa Google, for example, in Kenya, there's a Wanga Kingdom, A king within the culture of Kenya. In Kenya it's called Wanga Stop what.
Speaker 3:Oh, you're the long-lost prince.
Speaker 1:Damn. In this case, here we have a ronzel or a recruit who has to go to the farm to get his wife. So, in the way, we have to make sure that the cattle are well-fed. That's how we do it.
Speaker 3:And planting in the way of big crops, yes, in the way of big crops. E plantagem na.
Speaker 1:Rope Grande. Comparar com o sol. Comparar com o sol. Tem grande, tem grande, tem maneira Bolívia que está segundo mim, um décimo parte de Buneiro. Bolívia Tem a del de Buneiro, tem Washington Slag Bay que está originalmente tem um plantagem um outro território que é o Brasil, plantagem na Rope Grande original plant with another territory called Brazil. The plant is a little bigger, a little bigger but sometimes it's a little bigger, you plant it together and it's a little bigger than Aruba, you know what I'm thinking here.
Speaker 3:When I talk about the culture in the past, I feel like it's almost the same, but it's not the same as Aruba, which has. What are you protecting? So then I'm thinking about. That's what I'm thinking about right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that makes sense, though I know now, but it doesn't stay alive. No, I agree.
Speaker 1:Nowadays a lot of people use keyboards.
Speaker 3:A lot of people use computers to talk about slavery. I never heard of it. I never heard of it, but I think it's like it's not a danger Of course not. I understand and I accept it. How do you? Know Correct and I talk about it like I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like.
Speaker 1:I'm like, I'm like, I'm like.
Speaker 1:I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like. But he didn't live with a trauma. He didn't live with a trauma. He was born with a trauma. He was born with a trauma. He was born with a trauma. He was born with a trauma. He was born with a trauma. He was born with a trauma. He was born with a trauma. He was born with a trauma. He was born with a trauma. He was born with a trauma. He was born with a trauma.
Speaker 1:He was born with a trauma. In the Netherlands we have a fund for the RINCA From the island for the recovery To look for books to document. We have a problem that happened to us here in the Netherlands. We have dollar takers. We have two projects. I don not sponsored yeah it's not that you're sorry, I'm just a slight reclamer, it's not that.
Speaker 3:But it's not that it's for us. You know but it's for you and me, and I'm a big fan of you, but it's a big challenge for us.
Speaker 1:It's a it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 3:It's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it Okay yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, the place is also in Buneiro we have Malmoq. In Aruba we have Malmoq. We have a lot of places.
Speaker 3:Do you have a beach in Malmoq? No, no, no.
Speaker 1:It's the part I'm talking about, Aruba. It's the part north northwest of Buneiro.
Speaker 2:It's in the northwest.
Speaker 1:I need to go to Aruba too. Northwest, northwest, I need to go to Aruba. I need to go to Aruba. I need to go to Aruba. I need to go to Aruba. I need to go to Aruba. I need to go to Aruba.
Speaker 2:I need to go to Aruba. I need to go and you are called Lomba Preto.
Speaker 1:No no, no, Corso is Bachi Preto.
Speaker 3:Bachi Preto.
Speaker 1:No, it's Chibi, Chibi, chibi, chibi. Yes, you don't know what it is. Yes, chibi, chibi, for example is a name right, yes, yes. So Chibi? Chibi is a name, aruac Baricael Bachi Preto. What, what's your name, barikel?
Speaker 2:Barikel right.
Speaker 1:Yes, your name is not Barikel, barikel is Barikel. Your name is Barikel, but Chibi-Chibi. My name is Chuchubi. Your name is Arwak Chuchubi Warawara.
Speaker 3:I think it's a little bit different. Chuchubi, it's a little bit different.
Speaker 1:Your name is Injang.
Speaker 3:Really, I'm thinking about how to preserve an important name like that so you can drink a beer Miami High Music. How do you say beer? Ah beer, no, it's the word Arawak in Jandu.
Speaker 1:Ah, I didn't know that, I didn't know that, I didn't know that, I didn't know that. No, you know, I know Aruva. Well, clearly.
Speaker 3:How long have you been living in Aruba? A year with a couple of people A year.
Speaker 1:I served in the military for a year, but after that a couple of times in Aruba. I was a police officer. A police officer, I was retired, I was a pastor, so so, so, so, so, so so.
Speaker 2:So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so so. I love it, I love it, I love it, 100%.
Speaker 1:Correct.
Speaker 3:So Correct, so so, but then you put a can of beer.
Speaker 1:There are things that change, it becomes a control. When did you start changing? I'll put it a little slower. It's the theory of the Netherlands. It's all in control. It's a meme and the track. When you don't have a good view, you go on the track you go to the central, you go out there, you go to the center. It's a change.
Speaker 3:It's easier, it's like a mall, it's like a mall. It's like a mall. It's like a mall but it's like a night. But for two years nothing has changed at easy, at night. But I'm telling you, for two years nothing changes at all, at least what I'm experiencing. Is it a monument?
Speaker 1:Well, it's a monument. Monuments have two ways to become a monument. I mean today, more than 50 years ago, it was also a consideration the monument, but there are also courses in architecture, Also what is associated with it. The first airport building we have is still there. They have to repair the airport here, so we are going to fight for time to make it better. So it's an idea, a directive, Is it a?
Speaker 3:building? No, it's a building, but is it active? No, it's not active.
Speaker 1:It's an obsolete building, but it has its history Architecturally. If you look at it, it's beautiful. It's a special building. But if you look at it, it's a beautiful place. It's a special place. But if you realize what happened there, is it big? No, it's not big. The first airport in Bonaire is located in a completely different place. It's on the way to Berincón. So in 1947, more or less, they put a sign here, there is more space there are more officers.
Speaker 1:So it's not a small building, but it's still there. So the current airport management doesn't have the feeling, for our history, that it very good. It's not a pretext, perhaps partially with a reason, but it's an obstacle for aviation.
Speaker 3:But it's not.
Speaker 1:It's not. It's not just a plane that's higher than the airport. It's higher than the airport, it's an obstacle. There are planes that stop at the top.
Speaker 3:It's higher than that.
Speaker 1:We are playing with the new ship. We have a destination. We are in a museum, we are going to open a new one, we are going to guide them. There are security rules. At this time, you know, there are two solutions One for 10 hours, one for 10 hours. Then they put a portrait or something of history.
Speaker 3:And then there will be something, in a way, a behavior, at least a situation logistically that brings it. It's a free airport terrain? Yes, no, but simply a bayboard logistically you don't bring it, you can't bring it to the airport no, but if you take out a bayboard, you don't bring a bayboard around the G as in arrivals. In a baggage claim that doesn't baggage claim, that doesn't around the G, in a glass that doesn't have history over it, you don't bring your luggage out?
Speaker 1:no, but you're over there, I don't understand.
Speaker 3:I don't understand, I don't understand, I don't understand, I don't understand, I don't understand, I don't understand, I don't understand, I don't understand, I don't understand, I don't understand.
Speaker 2:I don't understand. I don't understand. So they save time while the luggage is leaving. They say that it's a place for breakfast, but it also has a history of being a camera view of the photographer. It's different because it's functioning. It's also a repair of the water tower of San Nicolás, for example, but if you look at it, it's 30,000. If you look at it from the side, it's 30,000.
Speaker 3:But they preserve it. They preserve it For sure, and you will be in Aruba for a season.
Speaker 1:You don't want to go to Kosovo, right?
Speaker 3:No, no, but you will go to. Kosovo and you will be in Aruba practically all your life. Yes, yes. What do you think about Aruba, going to Kosovo and similar, but what do you think about going to other two islands? Give me a good opinion.
Speaker 1:It's a difficult question, but I'll give it to you. Let's go. I don't understand what you're saying.
Speaker 3:I don't understand what you're saying I don't understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1:I don't understand what you're saying. I don't understand what you're saying. I don't understand what you're saying. I don't understand what you're saying. I don't understand what you're saying. I don't understand what you're saying. I don't understand what you're saying. I don't understand what you're saying. Our music, our culture is different from Aruba and Kosovo. Our music is different. It comes from here. It's more, it's a little bit different. Our nature, aruba loses its nature. Aruba loses its nature. Aricoc Aqueda, in the north of Aruba, there is a beautiful place, but in Buneiro Conco, ba come, you can preserve the history of our country. We have a large national park, which is our national park. It's safe, safe, but according to me it's bigger than Corso, bigger than Ariquoc, safe because of the nature. It's our first national park in Israel. It's a marine park. In Boilaman, there are 13 of us, most of the tourists are here Most.
Speaker 3:Yes, I heard from Bonero that he's diving. Does he consider himself one of the top in the world?
Speaker 1:Yes, he's probably one of the top. I don't know, but I'm sure he's one of the top 10. For yes, I'm sure With a top I know, but I'm sure they have a top 10. Sure For sure.
Speaker 3:Wow, I always think about Sabine Aruba diving. She came to the wrong spot. She came on a plane by Bonaero. It was close, but it was completely different Bonaero has a lot of things.
Speaker 1:It's coast diving. You come on a bike or a car. You coast diving. You can go by car you can use a dive boat when you walk.
Speaker 3:You can go by car. You can go by car. We're going diving on Sunday. Yes, wait a minute.
Speaker 1:Wait a minute. Are you going to sleep?
Speaker 3:No, I'm going to sleep, I'm going to sleep.
Speaker 1:Are you going to sleep?
Speaker 3:I believe you have a man you have a man. Bad bitch, we're talking man just to make it work just to make it work.
Speaker 2:Just to make it work. Okay, go for it. Go for it. Okay, look at me if the next 50 years? Mr Walkback, what is it that you want to say to the people who are watching this?
Speaker 1:I want to say that it is a program of leadership. I have been interviewing people for 25 years but I have interviewed 2,300 to 400 people. I have hope and things. I am very proud of it. It's the only television program in our country that UNESCO recognizes. Declare the program Memory of the World. A Latin ceremony in the Netherlands via Zoom. I want to remember the program. I was there for a month, writing, but writing is also a source of knowledge like Enra.
Speaker 1:That's it. To be honest, I'm more interested in nature or in history and culture I don't know if there's anything else. I mean, there's a documentary about all sorts of things. I mean, I can't say that I can safeguard all these things, but nature, no. We can safeguard it, but not the nature. If we go beyond the nature, we destroy the nature. Aruba is a beautiful example, but it's also bad if we don't destroy the island.
Speaker 3:That's my opinion. I respect Aruba.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes. The governor is not aware of the pressure. The inversionists are not well-prepared. The project is not easy, so they look at it from the first place. They don't try in the town for the election, it's just a project of development. It's not a score with the project. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Look what we did.
Speaker 1:I don't want to score with the project. I don't want to score with the project. I don't want to score with the project Correct, I don't want to score with the project. I don't want to score with the project. I don't want to score with the project. I don't want to scoreity, but you don't have a good one, then you don't have a good family. You don't have a good family and you don't have a good family. You don't have a good family. You have three problems. I don't know how to develop, but at the moment I don't know how to put a moratorium. I don't know how to put a moratorium. I don't know how to put a moratorium. I don't know how. I have been working in Aruba for a long time. I have been living here for a long time. I have been able to develop here, but in a controlled way. For me, this is a great opportunity to learn more about Aruba, to learn more about Aruba its identity, its nature, his culture.
Speaker 1:Before that it hurt me a lot. Now I'm in Aruba.
Speaker 3:The development.
Speaker 1:I'm Arubian, but with love for Aruba I feel more like a foreigner in Aruba.
Speaker 3:You know, I have a friend in France, a friend from Canada and just a friend of mine from Canada and just a friend of mine from the Netherlands, who was also in Aruba for a while. I met him a few days ago. He was my friend Because I first came to Aruba in Hopi. I first came to Aruba and I didn't feel at home. I felt like something magic or whatever. Came to Aruba, I felt like Aruba was lost and I didn't know if I was going to come back.
Speaker 3:I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess I guess I went back to the place where I said Aruba is the last island with so much celebrity, with so much history, to tell no, the fuck. I just said if you don't want to go there, go, go go. That's just my opinion.
Speaker 2:And it's facts. It's facts. It's not just for San Nicolas, yeah.
Speaker 3:San Nicolas is the only place where you can tell the history of Aruba.
Speaker 2:San.
Speaker 1:Nicolas is true, I don't know what to say it in Spanish, but I don't know how to say it in Spanish. I don't know how to say it in Spanish, but I don't know how to say it in Spanish. He's my friend. Okay, okay, he's my friend.
Speaker 2:We have a program together.
Speaker 1:He's my friend, he's my friend, he's my friend, he's my friend, he's my friend, he's my friend, he's my friend. In the end it also kills tourism. The tourists are also less Correct. So in Otamira the cost for here was also more Exactly. That's why a lesson for the piano of history is a lesson that I needed. That's why a lesson for other countries you can develop tourism here, but here you can't develop it when you go a kilometer away, tourism stops.
Speaker 3:You have to go back there, you know you have to go back.
Speaker 2:You can't go back to where you are Because it's fucked up.
Speaker 1:You have to go back home you have to go back.
Speaker 2:You have to go back to the internet. You have to go back. I are still here.
Speaker 3:You have a laptop to use the internet. I will ask you a question. You have a question about history and culture. Do you have a foundation? A foundation?
Speaker 1:A historical cultural foundation, a modern one.
Speaker 3:What is the function of the foundation?
Speaker 1:It is a safeguard. Our history and our culture are safeguarded in a serious sense. Salvaguardia nos historia, nos cultura, salvaguardia de sentido, graba nos grande dan as investigacion de historia, cultura, naturaleza. Tambien ultimo tempo nos tem biblioteca co book que tende a ver co tur isla de antia, holandesa, o book que podamos pasar na holanda pero to cante nos historia, the tour island of the Dutch. Or the book that we can find in the Netherlands but that is written playing our stories. We have a collection of more or less 5,500 books. We also have what we call the Caribbean Aruba, arubiana, arubiana. Right, we have a library here. We have 5,500 books. We have a lot of books with the rooms.
Speaker 3:The books are digitalized right.
Speaker 2:No, not yet.
Speaker 1:That's the only thing we have here. Yes, not yet. We have the right to author. We have to contact the author, but many times we have to digitize it, put it on the website. After 50 years the author of this book has died. We can't do it with the book of Johan Hartog. He wrote the book. He wrote the book of Boneiro. He wrote the book of Boneiro. He wrote the book of Boneiro. He wrote the book of Boneiro. He wrote the book. He wrote the book. He that it's a little bit complicated, but the book is not 50. It's not Bonero. Yes, we have to digitize it, but we are also asking.
Speaker 1:We have a website called archivobonerocom. There you have all the information we have. We have more websites. It's cubomêsorg. If we are dealing with, our website is cubomesorg. Here we deal with the information we have. We want to promote, we want to save, we want to promote our knowledge of our history, culture and nature, but also to make us them conscious, make them proud of their roots, of their island, of their culture, of their nature. This is basically the work of Fuy Kubo. In a shorter way, we have a program of television, a one-hour program. We have another program called Aki Boneiro, where we are interviewed in animation. He is an artist, for example. Aruba also makes us different from the type of program there painter or poet. We have two programs there and Korant. I have Korant. For two months I went to Cuba, but apart, but I have two of Korant. So I have Korant and Shopee To put information about culture, history and nature. So Korant is digital too.
Speaker 3:But it's paper.
Speaker 1:I have that Korant 100%. Make sure it's digital too For people who are from the Netherlands.
Speaker 3:100%, make sure you put it in digital so people can see it in Dutch 20 pages.
Speaker 1:It's been 5 years since COVID started. Until now, the situation has changed, with our ministry starting with a course to get extra for drug use. I don't know if you can see it, but I'm going to show you the page. I'm going to show you the page. I'm going to show you the page. I'm going to show you the page. I'm going to show you the page. I'm going to show you the page. I'm going to show you the page. Now, there is something special that I don't know if I've seen. There are more than 24, 28 pages, for example, for Easter, special dates, but there is a Koran. Too bad, I didn't come with one with a sword it's called Bonaireano.
Speaker 1:Bonaireano the head of the Koran is designed for a person that I met a month ago in Aruba, rogelio Montero oh shit, god damn it.
Speaker 2:Rogelio Montero.
Speaker 3:I thought it was you, but no.
Speaker 1:No, I know his name. He paints a stamp for Aruba. He paints. He's good at television graphics.
Speaker 3:I'm going to put it on Spotify Over our story. I don't even remember when it was. I'm ashamed.
Speaker 2:No, it just goes to show let's go.
Speaker 1:Shit Give me.
Speaker 3:Aruba 100%?
Speaker 1:I don't know 100%, 100%, 100%. Yeah, I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it.
Speaker 3:I no, wow Me, pista me, pista. No, what the?
Speaker 2:fuck.
Speaker 1:No, thank you.
Speaker 3:You're inspired. By money right, yes. Give him a blow. Give him a blow. Give him a blow. Give him a blow. Give him a blow.
Speaker 1:Give him a blow, give him a blow. Give him a blow. Give him a blow.
Speaker 2:Give him a blow. Give him a blow. Yes, yes, but you're not wearing a blue shirt.
Speaker 3:Yes, but I'm not wearing a blue shirt.
Speaker 2:And how does this work? Okay, I've never heard of this.
Speaker 1:I'm a soldier, I come from the military service. No-transcript. I was worried that I would lose. I was worried that I would lose. I was worried that I would lose. I was worried that I would lose. I was worried that I would lose. I was worried that I would lose. I was worried that I would lose. I was worried that I would lose.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure if I'm the only one.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I'm not sure if I'm the only one. I'm not sure if.
Speaker 3:I'm the only one? I'm not sure. If I'm the only one, I'm not sure if I'm the only one.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure if I'm the only one. I'm not sure if I'm the only one. I'm not sure if I'm the only one. I'm not sure. Natural bridge I don't know how to explain it. I don't have any idea how to explain it. I don't know how to explain it. I don't know how to explain it. I don't know how to explain it. I don't know how to explain it. I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 3:I don't know how to explain it. I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 1:I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 3:I don't know how to explain it. I don't know what the fuck. Nothing else.
Speaker 1:You stopped living. Nada, everything is gone. One happy Rotonda Island Beyond that. Quarta beira quarta gil. It's a bit more horizontal, it's better.
Speaker 3:It's better than the other one.
Speaker 1:No, but the length is correct.
Speaker 3:Correct. It's better than the other one.
Speaker 1:Now, if you want to drink, you have to find a way to drink, yes or not? I?
Speaker 2:don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know, shark, shark, shark, that's true Off camera Silver and silver.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, pa'aia, yes, pa'aia. So I have an age. I'm old, but I'm going by the time. I'm even younger than you. I'm 50 years old. Damn, how old are you? I'm 26, 29. I'm 50 years old. I'm older than you. I have a group of friends. I'm older. I'm starting to feel old.
Speaker 1:You're. I was young citizen of honor. Lately I have been in the Order of the United Nations. I started in the sixth grade. I became an officer in the Order of the United Nations. I am a high-ranking officer. I have been high level of recognition Constantly, constantly. I don't have recognition. It's good for me to see how I feel, how I am recognized for who I am, how I am recognized for who I am Really yes.
Speaker 1:That's why I don't like to be recognized. Serio Si por eso a mí me dicen que no me gusta. No hay gente bonería en el pueblo, pero o sea político no me gusta, especialmente con un periodista o con un generalista, viste la cosa, en scribo con un directo no me gusta, me saco me saco, pide subsidio cerca del gobierno so. I don't want to start a business. I don't want to start a business. I don't want to ask for subsidies from the government for such and such thing. I don't have anything.
Speaker 3:I don't have a job, but I don't have anything and work content.
Speaker 1:I don't have anything. I have nothing negative. So I started to think, I started to ask myself what is it that comes to people? That's crazy, Say the fuck, though.
Speaker 2:I'm going to cancel. I don't know. I'm going to cancel? I don't know. Boy Boy Boy. What we don't know is that Laga Legends is you know, they mention your name and you go boy Boy, everybody.
Speaker 1:It's a little heartbreaking when you're saying something like that and you're saying that you don't appreciate the people at level A, but there are people at the end of the day at level A. No, no, no, we don't talk about the people.
Speaker 2:It's not a town. No, no, no, it's not a town. I walk in. This doesn't have power.
Speaker 1:I walk in. I walk in. It's uncomfortable in this place. I walk in.
Speaker 2:It's a town I walk in. Thank you, I walk in it's a lot of people.
Speaker 1:It's a lot of people.
Speaker 3:It's a lot of people. Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank, you Thank you, thank you, thank you, like whatever, um um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um um um, um, um um um um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um um um, um, um um, um, um, um, um um.
Speaker 2:Anything you want to say, you want to add yes For me to know, please swap the camera here, because I'm going to. No, the camera is not swapping, oh, well, I know, but I want to give you a message For people of Bonaero, people of Aruba, people of. Where are you from? What is the name of Mr Bimbi From Bonaero? What is the?
Speaker 1:name of Mr in the Bimbishi of Buneiro. How do you say Buneiro? I explained to you Buneiro, its culture, its nature, its people, its hospitality, its love. But its nature and culture are interesting in Buneiro, bim Buneiro, bim Bino, cisra, and Take contact with me. You shut it.
Speaker 3:Yes, I'm not ashamed, I'm not ashamed, I'm not ashamed, I'm not ashamed.
Speaker 1:I'm not ashamed, I'm not ashamed, I'm not ashamed.
Speaker 3:My last question for you If you put one thing, I'll say 50 years, but in the next 50 years, if you put one thing in the black that you want to preserve, that you don't want to leave, what will you do?
Speaker 1:Our nature and our monument. Look at it. There are many buildings in the city. There's an example that I want to show you. It's a restaurant that uses the building. It's a great success. They work hard to avoid the downfall of the monument.
Speaker 3:It's a restaurant no-transcript.
Speaker 1:the way they are, they are not humble, they have a bad feeling, but they are calm, peaceful. The character of the Bolnerians because they are very easy to understand. They mix with other people who are not very alive. They also have a lot of Amen, awesome.
Speaker 3:Well boy, mi amas danga o tempo. Danga mi enribe territorio. Agi como ya te sa buona che mi enribo a te, pero next time it has me honored, so contigo y más me honra, me ha dado un placer A mi entrevista.
Speaker 1:Busco 100%.
Speaker 3:We check we check.
Speaker 2:Well, man, I hope you enjoyed the episode, subscribeing shing.
Speaker 3:At least I hope you enjoyed the episode here. Subscribe, leave a comment. I hope you enjoyed the interview here with me. I hope you have something to add to the course. If you have any questions, send them here. We'll be back yeah, for sure so if you have any questions, send us questions, write them in the comments for the next trip we'll be back now.
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