No Filter in Paradise
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No Filter in Paradise
Luis Moka: Preservando e herensia musical di Boneiru | EP 206
Luis Moca shares his journey as a guardian of Bonaire's traditional music while exploring ways to introduce these sounds to new generations through cultural fusion. He discusses the deep connections between his personal history, family roots in North Salina and Rincón, and his mission to preserve the island's musical heritage.
• Exploration of Luis's musical influences including Ana Today and Glenn Lucas, whom he considers among the greatest traditional artists of Bonaire
• The emotional story behind his hit song "Piscador" and how it connects to his grandfather's legacy
• Discussion of the challenges facing traditional music in the modern era and the importance of cultural preservation
• Insights into his upcoming album that will blend traditional Krioyo rhythms with contemporary production elements
• Plans for cultural exchange with musicians from Cape Verde, Cuba, and Santo Domingo to strengthen musical traditions
• The tension between maintaining cultural authenticity while evolving to reach younger audiences
• Personal reflections on the healing energy of Bonaire and its influence on his creative process
Follow Luis Moca on YouTube and Spotify to discover more of his music that bridges generations through the sounds of Bonaire.
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Speaker 2:I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2:Hey yo what's up.
Speaker 1:Hola que misters.
Speaker 2:Guys, welcome back to the ABC Islands favorite podcast, no Filter in Paradise, a show about anything and everything between two friends.
Speaker 1:One is straight and the other is a melanated homosexual everybody.
Speaker 2:Me gusta que generas reaccion. Maripapesila, Me tiene que usar Javi. Me tiene que usar Javi is a melanated homosexual, everybody. I like that you're generating that reaction. I like that you're generating that reaction.
Speaker 1:I like that. You're generating that reaction.
Speaker 2:I like that you're generating that reaction, guys. I have two guests. I have Luis Moca. Luis Moca, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nice to meet you, Good boy good boy, thank you, thank you, I'm. Luis Moca, I'm here with no Filter, in Paradise.
Speaker 2:Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3:Let's go. You mean to say we're going to do a new filter? No, I mean.
Speaker 2:I have a car.
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Speaker 2:They're missing the real they're missing the real Luis, what's your name? Or what's the artist's name?
Speaker 1:My name is Luizinho Molina. That's my name. My name is Luis Moga. I'm from Miopa. My uncle's name is Luis. He's my friend. He's my uncle's friend. My uncle's name is Luis. He's my friend. My uncle's name is Luis. He's a good friend. He's in school. He's a good friend. He's a good friend. He's a good friend. He's a good friend. He's a good friend. He's a good friend. He's a good friend. He's a good friend. He's a good friend. He's a good friend. He's a. It is my name is Facebook. I'm hungry, I'm hungry, I'm hungry, I'm hungry, I'm hungry, I'm hungry, I'm hungry, I'm hungry, I'm hungry, I'm hungry, I'm hungry.
Speaker 3:I'm hungry, I'm hungry, I'm hungry, I'm hungry.
Speaker 2:I'm hungry to it. It's a fast fool, luis Mocha and I remember Petit Petit does that, yeah, I have a friend who's a photographer in Aruba and he said it's on time. So Petit, never late.
Speaker 3:Jonathan.
Speaker 2:Jonathan, never late. Petit. I don't know what he said, but he said on Facebook Petit, petit, petit Petit.
Speaker 1:Petit Petit Petico Cruz, petico Cruz, petico Cruz.
Speaker 2:Petico Cruz, petico Cruz, petico Cruz, petico Cruz, petico Cruz, petico Cruz.
Speaker 1:Petico Cruz, petico Cruz, petico Cruz, petico Cruz, petico Cruz, petico.
Speaker 3:Cruz.
Speaker 1:Petico Cruz, petico Cruz, petico Cruz, petico Cruz, petico Cruz, petico Cruz, pet. So I don't know if you guys know him.
Speaker 2:I'm going to jump in front of you. Can you give us a small description of Luis Moka?
Speaker 1:Luis Moka is a man from Bonaire. My family is from North Salina and also Rincón, which is a neighborhood that has a lot of culture in Bonaire. I was lucky because I had a black person, so I have a lot of culture. I'm lucky because I have a mix. I'm a musician. I always listen to music my mom, my dad. I never want to listen to anything else. I like music. I started with music, then I started with music bit of music from Criollo, then I did a little bit of music from Cortico. I got a hit. I have a lot of songs that I like to listen to. I love it.
Speaker 1:Let's talk a little bit more about yourself. Who inspired you musically? Like, let's start with you Inspired me musically. You know, I have my idol, naturally, which is Ana Today, and also Glenn Lucas. He's a singer of the greats of Bonaire, of the culture part. So that's what I do I sing traditional music of Bonaire, Correct?
Speaker 3:I know I'm a Galeo. I'm a Galeo.
Speaker 1:We saw that I love that. I love that. I love that, I love that, I love that, I love that. I love that, I love that, I love that, I love that, I love that, I love that, I love that, I love that, I love that, I love that, I love that, I love that, I love that, I love that. I Sorry, papa Dios.
Speaker 2:Somehow it involves sample Damn. Okay, you know, I don't know if you're a kid, but you're mainstream, but you feel like you're breaking out of the mainstream part.
Speaker 1:Good fucking point. Good fucking point.
Speaker 2:Good fucking point.
Speaker 1:Good fucking point. It says something, it says something, it says something, it says something, it says something it says something it says something, it says something, it says, something, it says something, it says something, it says something, it says something, it says something.
Speaker 2:It says something it says something.
Speaker 1:It says something. It says something. It says something. It. It's interesting to me Because the mystery of the book is about outcomes, the meaning of the book and the love that we have for each other. It's interesting to me.
Speaker 2:The love that we have for each other is kind of like the information in the graph, correct. So when you look back at the past, like when my great-grandfather was Correct, so we have to bring back the light to show my great-grandfather to us.
Speaker 1:Yes, correct. So, for example, if you have a rainbow, you know what a rainbow is Rainbow. So you go to a big job and you ask what does it mean? It has two meanings In the end. It's a little bit longer.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, our song is full, but in reality it's like a month.
Speaker 2:I write it, I sing it and it's not more than a month. Yeah, yeah, yeah I didn't know You're right, I didn't know, I don't know Exactly, I only heard it. I only heard two black hymns. I didn't know. But then I thought, hey, I'm into a hand like oh shit, that's okay, that's an anthem.
Speaker 1:But, let's go a little further. The first thing I want to say is I'm happy to be able to listen to everything other than broadcasts in Creole, because I don't know if you've heard of Afrobeat, for example. It's a stick thing, it's a part of the culture, it's a part of the cause. We are not like the Afrobeat people. We are stuck in this culture, this thing that we are always promoting, always promoting. If we don't stop promoting, if we don't start promoting in the same way that other people do, then our culture will die. Correct, I want to say that it was our time. That's facts, that's facts.
Speaker 2:Okay, so let's go.
Speaker 1:Let's go for a little bit With In the past.
Speaker 2:Young, young, young, luis Moca.
Speaker 1:Enough young. That's facts. That's facts. Okay, so let's start with the first one In the past Young, young, young, luis Moka, even though he's a bastard young he's six years old.
Speaker 2:Like very young. Let's go back 20 years ago. Luis Moka is six years old. How old is Luis Moka at this time?
Speaker 1:Um, he's a little bit um Fastidious, fastioso.
Speaker 2:Fastioso Serio.
Speaker 1:Top. I used to go to school. Spabel, spabel. I used to play basketball, but I always used to play a little bit of intelligence. I used to play a little bit of that. Kiko Mike, if I do something wrong, I get it wrong. I used to play a little bit of that.
Speaker 1:I used to play a little bit of intelligence. I used to to music, I don't know, I'm from the neighborhood. I like sports too With my wife. I have three wives Younger. No, I have one younger and two older. Okay, I have four wives. My neighborhood North Salina I don't know, north Salina always sports music. I mean my life. I do a lot of things in my neighborhood, north Salina, north Salina, north Salina always sports music. You know what I mean. My life, man, it's a lot of things in my life man, it's a lot, a lot, a lot of things that I have here. I can say, man, it's enough things, not enough but more like hey, relax to go yo, but it means safe bro that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, yes. What's the?
Speaker 2:first song you ever wrote.
Speaker 1:With the string. I don't know With the string, with the string, but I think I wrote the most songs for a month. 'm going to play the guitar, but I'm going to write more songs.
Speaker 1:What's your biggest hit? My biggest hit is Piscador. What is that? Tell me a backstory of Piscador. It's a song that I wrote when I became an artist. It's a song by Piscador. I'm going to play the guitar For me. When I became an artist, I was a bit of a, and what happened was I was working with. If you don't have a client, you don't have a DA yeah. I was a fisherman.
Speaker 2:I was a fisherman.
Speaker 1:One day I saw a fish. I thought it was a good fish. I thought it was a good fish. I thought it was a good fish. I said fish, eat it.
Speaker 3:I said, fish eat it.
Speaker 1:I had no idea. I knew the song was going to be a hit. I was in the Netherlands. I had an idea. I told him that he would play a lot of songs in Kosovo, aruba, holland. I have a featuring that I did a remix of Ataniro Ataniro. Yes, yes, yes. He played a lot of songs and I sent him a hit song. I said that it would be an inspiration for my grandpa Because I was going to do it in 2020. Able to get my head started in 2020. And my grandpa passed away a week later. My grandpa passed away a week later and after the carnival, there was a song and I was able to sing a song and I sang it with my grandpa and my grandpa sent me a song. My grandpa sent me a song to sing. I was a little kid. I was a little kid.
Speaker 2:I was a little kid, I was a little kid, I was a little kid.
Speaker 1:I was a little kid. I was a little kid. I was a little kid, I was a little kid. I was a little kid. I was a little kid, I was a little kid, I was a little kid.
Speaker 2:I was a little kid.
Speaker 3:I was a little kid, I was a little kid, I was a little kid I was a little kid, I was a little kid, I was a little kid, I was a little kid I.
Speaker 2:It's hard, it's crazy, it's crazy.
Speaker 1:It's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy. Cantate man it. Or to work out of frequency the unification, amen, amen. The episode of the visit of the indira sandy it a lexicon, bizarre, but open talk about Ghana, for me, quella a la persona correct, correct. Oh me me, da me, da me, da see he can go. So, number, take away me the B's aku. It's amazing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2:No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1:No, no, no.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no. So we'll look back. Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. Let's go, let's go.
Speaker 1:It's hot, it's nervous.
Speaker 1:I like it a lot. I took courage to go to the festival to take a walk with a friend of mine, dwight, also Hendrik Duin. It was hard. It was hard, it was quiet. We went for a walk. We saw the sun rising from the sky. We went for a walk. We didn't go for a walk, we were walking for a long time. I'm from Bonaire, so I don't know where to start. I'm not from far away, so I don't know where to start. I'm from Bonaire, so I'm going to start from the bottom. I'm inspired by the Bente, I'm from Bente, I'm from the top. I've been to the region, to the carnival.
Speaker 2:And they won't drop us. They won't drop us.
Speaker 1:Yes, they will, yes, they will. I'm going and I have a feeling that I'm going to make it big. I love it, you didn't go big.
Speaker 2:You're going to make it big. It's huge. I said Aruba, I'm going to make it big, go to Aruba.
Speaker 1:You didn't go to Aruba, you went to.
Speaker 2:Aruba, right? No, it's huge. You didn't go to Aruba. No, no, no, you didn't go to Aruba. Sorry, yes, it's huge.
Speaker 1:This festival is bigger than TNT. Oh shit, I go all in.
Speaker 2:Do you go to Aruba?
Speaker 1:Yes, I go to Aruba.
Speaker 2:I've been there, no worries, I can still remember. Y'all what knows gonna know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah that means so yeah me, bae Aruba. Aruba is a good show man. Yeah, I guess I'm a chill with Bonero, nah, nah.
Speaker 2:I'm not Nah.
Speaker 1:Off y'all Porta.
Speaker 2:Bonero is a lot like for Sammy, for me to fucking relax Maybe if you're looking for something, nah dude, but I don't know if you're going to go to the hotel. No dude, If you're going to go to the hotel, you're going to go to the hotel Chill.
Speaker 1:I'm going to Aruba. Yeah, I'm going on vacation. I'm never going to Aruba. I'm going to the hotel. I'm going to the hotel I'm going to the hotel.
Speaker 2:No, dude, no, no, we don't have traffic. I'm going to stop and traffic and I'm going to do this with a street walk and I'm going to go to Links and Frax and I'm going to go to the store and I'm going to go to the store and I'm going to go to the store and I'm going to go to the store and I'm going to go to the store and I'm going to go to the store and I'm going to go honest, miss Universe, we have different people coming and we, we have a touch base here, but we don't know what else to do.
Speaker 2:And yeah, obviously we have to do it, but when we do it, we have to do it because we just take naps all day and we are legit. If you don't want to do it, I recommend you to do it what's the name of this place there's?
Speaker 1:I can't, I can't. There's a trap, it's a fucking blow.
Speaker 2:It's a trap.
Speaker 1:I can't, I can't, I can't. It's like a diving job You're doing these bad words.
Speaker 2:What bad words You're doing, these bad words, sorry, sorry You're doing these bad words. So I'm 100% saying sad dude Boom. I'm sorry, I Okay.
Speaker 1:So you sing the music, right? I'm not saying that you should be double-sitting.
Speaker 3:Yes, double-sitting, and then I'll tell you what happened.
Speaker 1:I had a friend who was what did you say? He was a, what he was a. I'm not saying that you should be double-sitting. I'm not saying that you should be double-sitting. I'm not saying that you should be double-sitting. I'm not saying that you should be double-sitting.
Speaker 2:I, mr Mocha, um, I don't end.
Speaker 1:100%, 100%, 100%, 100% 100%, 100% 100%, 100% 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100% 100% 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100%, 100% Sweaty.
Speaker 2:You can't sweat no more. It's a whole dirty song it's a lot of look about Fucking Cojine mujer and I'm like oh, it's winter, panchete. We got the blasted ground and Oram Piyama Grand. He explained to me Like you know, you can't come in Like Nah, just go home, you're sweating, you're dancing, nah, samil Oram. P full, full. I'm getting up on travel fuck, I'm getting up on travel making the TV that you have here for you, making it fun and no mainstream, but making it popular amongst the young crowd.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean I want a way to make an image of another, but they make it popular amongst the young crowd. What do you think I want? I want a way to look an image of another style dress but I mean in junk vibes, bro.
Speaker 2:Sorry, correct, not in junk, not in junk you laugh in junk.
Speaker 1:In junk, you recognize the leather you wear that?
Speaker 2:yeah, I can definitely see that. Let me see your fucking Instagram Earsize vibes.
Speaker 3:He got it too, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It's lucky that I have a daughter in North Salina and I'm here with her. It's not lucky, it's a blessing, like that was your destiny. You're just a blessing, you're just a sacrifice Like a blessing, but you're a good person, correct, you're a good person. Yes, you're a good person, world's highest.
Speaker 2:Top 3.
Speaker 1:Features of MASHOCKING so tell us a bit about.
Speaker 3:According to you, what are the top?
Speaker 1:3 most shocking features Like what are they? Ear size? Always, Really, yeah, ear size, but I don't know. I started drinking. It's a dream. I started drinking when I was little. I started drinking when I was five months old. I don't know if it's ear size or not. I also have a calf.
Speaker 2:You guys are getting to get it.
Speaker 1:Nice. This is a sample of the Hibikriyo that I've been listening to for five months. So now I'm featuring for my second show. This is no tea, no shade guys, but this is a song for the type of music that you can find in the store.
Speaker 1:This is the only thing that you can find in Korea. You can find it in the store. You can find it in the store. You can find it in the store. That's the only thing I can do. If you're going to run away, you're going to be like SAH. Hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 3:That's it, and if you're going to run away.
Speaker 1:you're going to be like Warda. Don't be embarrassed, baby. This is not their story, but if you're going to run away and you're going to be like SAH. What do you want to say? I live in Costa Chapa. I started doing lessons and became a teacher at school, but you don't have a lot of money. You have a lot of money. I have a lot of money too. Stop.
Speaker 2:You don't understand. You don't understand how to do it properly. I know how to do it.
Speaker 1:I have a lot of money. Tell us what you do. When did you start? When I was working as a car wash, I would go to work and I would go to the kitchen. I would go to the kitchen twice a day and I would go to the kitchen twice a day. I would go to the kitchen twice a day.
Speaker 2:In case you didn't hear me right I would go to the kitchen twice a day and I would go to the kitchen twice a day.
Speaker 1:I would go to the kitchen twice a day and I would go to the able to do it. I'll see, and then I'll be able to go to work. I'll start my blessing. I'll start my blessing. I'll go to the church. I'll go to the church. I'll go to the church. I'll go to the church, I'll go to the church, and then after that I'll go to the church. Nice, it's great to see that it's never the same.
Speaker 1:You have to know the culture to have your own thing, it's a gift, correct, so I'm going to start with an opportunity to start a class with a teacher at school who teaches me a role as a teacher Talent.
Speaker 2:And knowledge about anything and music.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to start a class at the Liceo Bonaeriano and knowledge about the. I don't know if I'm going to be able to do it, but I'm going to try my best. I'm not sure about music.
Speaker 2:I think you have a lot of knowledge. You have a lot of knowledge.
Speaker 1:You are the only one who knows and knows the music more than anyone else over the history of Nero. There's a lot of interest in it. You can see how they start. They want to start, they start with something. They're seeing it as a good thing. There's a lot of respect.
Speaker 2:I have a question Do you know anything about Boy Antoine? Do you feel like he's a school that's investing in culture and history of Bonero?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:But I have to say, say it's missing.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, I'm waiting for a message to come. That's what I'm.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm waiting for. I'm waiting for a message to come. I'm waiting for a message to come. I'm waiting for a message to come. I'm waiting for a message to come.
Speaker 1:I'm waiting for a message to come. I'm waiting for a message to come. I I know many people who mention the three words of the song. Who is the singer of the song?
Speaker 3:Shame on you.
Speaker 1:The singer of the song is bigger than Bonero. He is slower than Bonero. How can you say that? When you say Re-Mailó, I don't know. Re-mailó Impossible. Re-mailó is the second last name of Bonero. Ok, so I am a person who likes to work with solutions. I don't know what the I have two black the government or whatever the system is. What do you think is the difference in terms of education? I think it's part of what I have in front of me. It's part of music and also history. That's very important, I think, instead of seeing the history of the Netherlands, seeing the history of the three world wars, seeing the history of Bonero, wars, the history of happiness, of culture.
Speaker 1:We know that with our kisses, we know that with our wine, one of us is going to die. That's the most important thing. One of us is going to die. You know what I also want to say Honestly, and I want to say it. It comes to my mind that, especially ABC, I feel that our history, mr Waterhorn, shared within each other impossible a clearly it is, but it's still up to date with the culture, but it's another dose of.
Speaker 1:I don't think I'll assume it's another person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to say that black people don't accept what comes next.
Speaker 2:There's no power for it to go wrong Correct.
Speaker 1:We don't get used to it.
Speaker 3:It is what it is.
Speaker 1:It happens, it goes on, it goes on. I don't want to have a problem with black people. I'm not questioning you, true? I don't have a problem with you. I completely understand you, true, true, damn.
Speaker 2:I will give you a part of my personal Dibo in your career, I mean in the last 10 years, I mean whatever. Hit me at a low point I'm like fuck, do I want to keep doing this?
Speaker 1:Sure, no, you know you want to keep doing this, but I want to say that I haven't seen a festival of Tumba in a year, compared to last year. I don't know if it's a situation of a festival of Tumba Bonero, but there were two Tumba Bonero, three Tumba, one, benil, two, grandi One of the first finalists, ben Grandi, one of the three finalists. Benil One of the first finalists is the big one. One of the three finalists is Benil. One of the three finalists is Ray Tumba.
Speaker 3:He's from.
Speaker 1:Boneiro. I'm going to say his name. What happens is that I was in Corso Participating in the Festival Tumba Corso, and I came to participate in Boneiro Plus Corso and inneiro. The festival of the Bonneiro Playhouse ends and now I'm going to bring the Bonneiro organization to train with. I have a chance to participate in the festival of the Bonneiro Playhouse, so this is the Bonneiro Playhouse.
Speaker 2:I don't want to sing but if she becomes bad, what do I do?
Speaker 1:You can just say it over, but you can't say so. She becomes a Malo. I'm going to go to the festival and I'm going to talk to the people of the town.
Speaker 1:And what happens is I approach the organization and I say, ok, I can participate, I can subscribe. And a message Comes from the people and they write A Facebook page and I write Luis Moga will participate in the town. Uh-oh, I'm going to do the same thing. I'm going to do a big show in Corso. I'm going to do four shows in Corso. I'm going to do a big show in Corso. I'm going to do a big show in Corso. I'm going to do a big show in Corso. I'm going to do a big show in Corso. I'm going to do a big show in Corso. I'm going to do a big show in Corso. I'm going to do oh shit.
Speaker 2:I just passed the time Correct. No, no, no, beat your friends fair. Oh shit, you heard it here first.
Speaker 1:You heard it here first I'm not a fan of the radio. I'm not a fan of the radio. I'm not a fan of the radio. I'm not a fan of the radio. I'm not a fan of the radio. I'm not a fan of the radio. I'm not a fan of the radio. I'm not a fan of the radio. I'm not a fan of the radio. I'm not a fan of the radio. I'm not a fan of the radio. I'm not a fan of the radio, I'm a warrior. So after the Inalanta, I sang Criollo too. We managed to get three finalists and four with Roca. Roca also participated.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, yes, I'm a rocker. Yes, yes, yes, I'm a rocker.
Speaker 1:I know too, I'm not going to lose, or lose because I'm not going to win. I'm going to win in the past. So you know.
Speaker 3:You want to beat the ones on top artist.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how can I do this? I'm not good. Two things I want to tell you. One is you are on top of your game Once you are on top you like to hate, you don't have anything else to say.
Speaker 1:You don't have to say you're talented. You don't have to say you're good. You don't have anything else to say Ah, okay, I don't know if you're talented, I don't know if you're good, I don't have anything else that I can pick. Ah, okay, I don't participate. But wait, okay, I don't know, okay, I don't know, I don't know I don't know, but I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know I don't know.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's like you're eating a piece of meat for a month and you're eating 1% of what you're eating in a week.
Speaker 1:You don't have to worry about eating. You don't have to worry about eating. It is what it is. You don't know who you're eating with. If you drop something you don't have to worry, it's whatever.
Speaker 2:It's not about eating meat. It's about eating hard and you're eating a piece of meat and you're eating Like it's whatever. Exactly 20 people with no life, 5,000 people with 6 times the amount. So focus, focus on the 5,000 and then 20 more, you know as a person, as a person, day by day.
Speaker 1:There comes a time when you start getting tired, for sure you find yourself at work. How many nights do you want to sleep? How many hours, how many days do you want to eat? You have to do, and at the end of the day, you have to go to the town and you have to eat. You have to eat a lot. This is what you have to do Of course you have to do it.
Speaker 1:You have to do it. You have to do it, but I want to show you that I have a lot of motivation. I want to show you guys that I have motivation. I won't stop. Not for you either. Okay, man, cry it out, suck it out.
Speaker 3:We got bigger fish to fry. It's a hit.
Speaker 1:It's a hit. It's a hit, that's it. So we'll continue completely. Tomorrow we'll go to Korsou, we'll go to a show in. Korsou then we'll go to Aruba too, we'll go to Blerí too, we'll continue moving Completely.
Speaker 2:That's it, the game. Do you have any plans for anything or anything you want to say?
Speaker 1:Either September or August, the year september of augustus. I don't have a job, I don't do anything. I'm dedicating myself to my family. I don't know. And then, I don't know, I start back, completely Two steps back To prepare for the carnaval.
Speaker 2:Correct. If you don't know what you're learning, I'll be back for you, and the inspiration is in the comment section. If you're a person, okay, but I'll write it down, Do it you got it, I'm going to kill you.
Speaker 1:It was a complete plan.
Speaker 3:Full, full, full, full full.
Speaker 1:And it's super important. What I'm going to mention now is that Turkish people are going to pass through. They are going to be hurt. You know what I mean. I know that you are talking about the Turkish people and how they are suffering. I know that. But I think that is very important for an artist to have their own music. That is a good way to broadcast what is happening. You know, the interviewer has an interview. He says no, the promoter doesn't know, I don't know interview. I don't know if I can say it here, but I think it's a good vibe when I hear it, I think. I think it's a good thing. It's not a bad thing to sing, it's a good thing, but when I hear it, it's a good vibe, it's a good thing.
Speaker 1:I don't know, if I can say it, you don't sing no. No, in Bonaero there's a culture called bandera. That means when certain things happen in the world, we sing it in the street Because there's a song called tambu. Right In Bonaero there's a song called tirapunya, where people sing the government, things like that.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay, but we don't know the name of the song. Ah okay, go bierno Cos lango. Ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok.
Speaker 2:Ok Ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok, ok Ok.
Speaker 1:Ok Tira shade, tira shade.
Speaker 2:But I'm not saying that I don't want to say things like this.
Speaker 1:What I'm saying is that it's a song that means full culture, full In a good way. It's a song that doesn't have anything negative. It's a song that has a good version, a good story. It's a song that says that's what your music is.
Speaker 3:It's a story. I didn't express it in a good way.
Speaker 1:I want to listen, because I don't listen to the promoter of his band. I don't listen to Great, I want to listen to Luis's band here, but hey, you know he hurts me with my people you know nothing changes my heart. But you know, it's all good. We're still practicing, we're still going forward, we're doing cooking for my culture. It's the kind of thing I want to hear. But until that comes, I feel like I'm going to have to go. I'm going to come back here. I'm going to do my own thing.
Speaker 1:You should I have to be all in All in? I'm going to do it all in All in, hard, hard, hard, complete, and then I'm going to do it. Personally, I know Love Shing, shing, shing shing.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:And our albums. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to. I want to do it here. I'm going to do. I want to release an album next year. It's a krioyo track, it's an urban song, but I want to release an album next year. I want to release an album next year, but it's a single album. Do you want to release an?
Speaker 3:album.
Speaker 1:But it's a single album, so I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don my partner but what's the vibe of the album? The vibe of the album Is it more like a culture style or more like urban? It's more like a culture.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to do something like a culture fusion. I have a rich and nasty past lately. It's a rhythm of Creole and instrumentation of Creole. I have a friend who recently passed away. It's a traditional rhythm but with a bass, drum and bass bass. He's playing in the club. He's a five-year-old, he's trying to get into the music scene. I know Luis, if I can add something right, pablo, I feel like there's no hope for me at all.
Speaker 2:I don't know anyone else like that.
Speaker 1:That's why I'm saying but I think what I'm saying is that there's no hope for me. So it's great for me to understand that. There's super great for me to understand what Bonero is doing, but I feel like there's nothing wrong with taking over ABC. There's a way with a fusion of If you take your instrument, if you take your sound, whatever, you can mix it with a bit of Bonero.
Speaker 1:Another thing is that you can mix it with Corsoso, roadfire or Corsoso whatever I feel like I would legit, legit an artist like him to do something like this it's a good idea, something that I always had in mind, but I found now I'm going to try something new. It's always in my mind, but I think it's something new. It's difficult for me to accept, but in the end I have to accept it.
Speaker 2:But it's something new. Sometimes you make something for your wife, but sometimes you go over to your wife's instrument and you say, oh shit, it's part of her good thing.
Speaker 1:But what happens is that with Bonero, we have a culture that is not serious at all. He started with Aruba then he started with Creole. He started with Creole.
Speaker 3:At the end he started to see that he didn't like Creole.
Speaker 2:He started with Isla. He started with Isla.
Speaker 1:In fact, it's something that starts to understand the meaning and vibration of the song, so I think it has a big role in this part. I'm not trying to put pressure on you, baby, I'm just saying no, no, no, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. It's okay, it's, okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's. I understand you sing good songs, but Our tour is linked To the sound.
Speaker 3:It's more of a sonification the sound is.
Speaker 1:It's coming with a flavor. We know Rincón Boys in Aruba we have them. We have a group of Betico. Their version of we have this. The sound is unfamiliar. Luis Moca is unfamiliar. Their version of Nang Manera we have this. It sounds like it's familiar. Luis Moca is familiar With us Because we know the Rincón Boys, like Aki, like Grande who, yeah, eventually Stops at some time. But that fusion, that wave Of Luis Moca With flavor For our generation, I feel like it's fully tapped in as yet. Si si me ta boneiro, si butingan log si, si boneiro corsov dame zo zo eh eh fusion, eh fusion.
Speaker 1:Eta baizona do it poslan chake ribe youtube not for sure e ama biba luiz mo konto ko nasty pash e ama biba chake eta dal hope do it bandi. No, I don't have Spotify, I have YouTube. It's heavy I don't want to wear a mask. It's heavy, it's heavy, it's heavy, it's heavy, it's heavy, it's heavy, it's heavy, it's heavy, it's heavy, it's heavy, it's heavy, it's heavy, it's heavy.
Speaker 2:It's heavy, it's oh fuck.
Speaker 1:No, but okay so what about the music for the future? Another year, you want to release an album. You will participate in a course Writing the same thing. You will participate in Bonero Change sing in Creole. What is a goal you want to accomplish another year in terms of culture and youth? My goal is always to get a little more from us. I also want to go to Cape Verde, because I have an intention to go to Cape Verde, because I have two years to go up with us, because we have a presentation at the end I have plans.
Speaker 1:We know you have a presentation At the end. We have plans to go to Cuba To do a musical exchange Santo Domingo too. So that's why we have an influence In our culture. Great, who knows us and who doesn't know us? We know each other, but you have an album. Of course.
Speaker 2:Me. My question is is there something you can fund this month, or is there a tourism board? Is there something the government can support?
Speaker 1:The government can support us. The government can support us in a way that it's not easy to get to where we are. Manera ku Um yeah, e nota bai fácil Si pa Pa llega na Pa na Sostenernos, pero Nantin e E sen Nandin sen Ku na lo por Sostenernos Tambien To Bosa Tiki tiki Si gumi Nang Nang Uo Tamita, abriendo Nen parte Di kultura, nanto Nanta in part of culture, and so nothing to sustain.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I hope it doesn't have a lot of laziness. I'll see you tomorrow. Hey, I'll see you. I don't know what segment, but I'll see you hey, I'll see you.
Speaker 1:Okay, correctly, I don't know what segment? I don't know what segment like I've seen this act being done in a way, Kiko, like I've been doing this for a long time. One thing I've noticed here is that I've been doing this for a long time. You know, guys, I've been here all the time I'm going to do a concert, I'm going to do something to show you what I've been doing all the time I don't know how to sing Creole.
Speaker 1:I don't know how to sing Creole. Can you show us what you've been doing? We've been singing Criollo. We've been singing Criollo. Ok, so you've been singing a lot. Yes, a lot. I've been singing, a lot I've been singing at the festival in Tumba.
Speaker 3:Stop.
Speaker 1:I've been singing in Tumba, I've been singing Criollo, I've been singing Babo Negro too. A little more classical waltz, mazurka, a little more scene. I also like to push two things. I love to sing with my wife to enhance her culture. I don't know, I don't have time, you don't have time, I don't have time, I don't have time. I don't have time, I don't have time, I don't have time, I don't have time, I don't have any money to do it. It's easier to work and it's also good to have a way of life.
Speaker 2:If you do it without SMAC, you won't do it with SMAC.
Speaker 1:Correct.
Speaker 2:If you do it in a way that's like oh wow, I'm so cool, I want to pursue this. You make it fun, you want to think that everyone is happy to do what you do.
Speaker 1:Yes, correct, I almost let go of myself. That's right. I'm almost done with my music I'm not going to play anymore. I don't know, I don't know how to play music. I'm a completely different person. I'm serious, I don't know, how to play.
Speaker 1:I'm good, but I'm not chilling, I'm not playing like my friend. What are three crucial instruments for your sound? Chill, junto, tamane, goku, tamia, amigo, nanda, cute, the three instruments crucial pa bo sound, okay, okay, okay, okay. I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure. What is your track of inspiration and what is an area that you think okay, that you want to share with me so I can bring it to my zone, so I can talk about it? I want to. I want to share with my mom, my dad, because I've been doing this since I was little.
Speaker 1:So I look at everything I've done since I was little. So I want to inspire people. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to sit in the studio and I'll skip the song. I'm going to go. I'm going to sit in the studio and I'll skip the song. Stop, I'm going to sit in the studio and I'll skip the song. It's hard to explain. I want to explain how I feel. I don't know how to explain. I don't know how to explain. I feel like I'm in a bad situation Completely.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I have one more question. You have to answer it.
Speaker 2:No, answer it.
Speaker 3:No answer it.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I have a little obsession with Kev. Okay, man, tell me it's a process. It's a process, it's a process, it's a process, it's a process, it's a process.
Speaker 1:It's a process.
Speaker 2:It's a process.
Speaker 1:It's a process. This is the process of how I got to CAF.
Speaker 3:The process of how you got to another DCDA is going to bring cookies.
Speaker 1:I don't remember how I got to CAF. According to me, she sent me on Instagram. I was meeting my manager and then she sent me a link. I don't remember exactly how I met another, but I don't know how I started talking. I don't know how I started talking, talking and talking and blah, blah, blah. He sent me the chorus. He asked me to sing it for him. He asked me to sing it for him. I sang it for him one day.
Speaker 2:One day for another, one day for another.
Speaker 1:I sang it for him. I sang it for him I sang it for him.
Speaker 2:We were in a studio, I think, as in, you're forcing me to accept the flow. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1:In the case of Saka Doton, you're forcing me to go to the studio At the moment I can see that You're similar.
Speaker 2:It's crazy. Very down to the roots Love it. Do you speak Dutch Hopi? Do you speak Dutch Hopi?
Speaker 1:No, hopi, no, Hopi, no, hopi. I speak Dutch, but no, hopi, I don't want to go back. I'm going to be back in a year, okay, okay.
Speaker 2:Do you have any idea what time it is for?
Speaker 1:you Vacation Nice.
Speaker 3:I'm going to be on vacation. I'm going to be on vacation.
Speaker 1:For the first time in my life no, the second time in my life I'm going to be on vacation.
Speaker 2:Nice, nice, that's crazy, okay, wait.
Speaker 1:For me to know Give me the camera. Take the camera here. Okay, nice, nice. He's a good person. He's a good person. He's a good person. He's a good person. He's a good person. He's a good person. He's a good person. He's a good person. He's a good person. He's a good person. He's a good person. He's a good person.
Speaker 2:He's aplainable. It's unexplainable, it's unexplainable.
Speaker 1:For me. I feel like Bonero has a healing energy.
Speaker 3:Sure sure.
Speaker 1:It's like a plane is landing. I don't know what it is, but I feel an energy that says okay, I'm not Bonero, I'm going to the airport like Bono, porto Arabia.
Speaker 3:I don't know what Bono Porto Arabia is. It's weird.
Speaker 1:Sure, sure it's weird. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't kidding, I'm not crying, I'm not crying, I'm not crying, I'm not crying, I'm not crying.
Speaker 1:I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying. I'm not crying.
Speaker 2:I'm not crying. Enjoy with me and I'll see you next time with Luis, you can find the Spotify link and the YouTube link in the description so you can get more interested click, listen, leave a comment and I'll see you next time. Peace, bye.