No Filter in Paradise

Inside Kaya Kaya: Community, Culture, and a Different Kind of Tourism | EP 211

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We bring on Kurt, the “people’s mayor” of Otrobanda, to unpack how Kaya Kaya uses art, music, and street design to fund the neighborhood while protecting its soul. Tourists are guests, locals are the authors, and authenticity is the business model.

• building Kaya Kaya as a community-first festival
• treating visitors as guests with clear neighborhood etiquette
• keeping prices and experiences local rather than luxury
• recycling and upcycling across staging, signage and materials
• reinvesting festival earnings into the barrio
• designing walkability, food courts and murals that tell place-based stories
• scaling carefully to avoid gentrification and displacement
• lessons learned from past editions and right-sizing growth
• using social media without losing authenticity
• plans for longer, multi-day formats and wider partnerships


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SPEAKER_01:

But it is over health or authenticity. It's a schizophrenia. Whatever you say. But it's a good thing. Whatever you have, please, please, please make sure we want to say no caterist. Sempre catered on the same. Sempre is the first one.

SPEAKER_02:

What do you locals go? Experience.

SPEAKER_01:

Welcome to the barrier. Hey yo, what's up? I like this.

SPEAKER_02:

But hey, let's stay. Oh, shoot. Any mic. My bad, my bad. All right. Hey yo, welcome back to the AB. Welcome back to No Filter Paradise. Bro. Oh bro. I'm just losing it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, you need like breathe. Give me two seconds. Give me a little breather.

SPEAKER_02:

Guys, welcome back to the ABC Islands favorite podcast, No Filter in Paradise. A show about anything and everything between two friends.

SPEAKER_01:

One is straight and the other. Super duper mega melanated and a homosexual, baby.

SPEAKER_02:

So you streak a straight guy and a gay guy can be friends, no problem at all. Right? You're gonna leave me hanging? Okay, don't you? I apologize. Alright, Mason, Papimento of English. Hello. I'm sorry. Well, I understand. But in English, I'm not sure. Massons back in Corsair. The man behind Kaya Kaya, Mr. Kurt. How are you doing? Sorry.

SPEAKER_01:

AKA the mayor of Otrabanda. It's what they say, yes.

SPEAKER_02:

The people's mayor.

SPEAKER_00:

The people's mayor. Bampa Bay. Mr. Pulas, you see, gurkin and the festival. Clack yeah. Okay, so how's it been going? Because the other band is not possible. But yeah, but when you start, it's a team has important. So, it's a festival. Okay. I don't think it's area, um, this item windy picun.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. So I did not.

SPEAKER_01:

My friends have been aruba. Sharat to Prime Ira Nang.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, baby.

SPEAKER_01:

So it's a good thing. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Exciting, say.

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, no, no. So, you know, it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_02:

No, it's super excited.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

So, Paponaki nan medi, great moment. Hey, tender, stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

Network. Okay, so promekunos dig deep thing kayaka. Mm-hmm. Mikela sa un tiki mas on bo background untiki. Does baby sabalanta ding ebbario akyta? Kiko di ebbario akita hasi? Hasi abasi na content within, you know what? Wada. No subujis lack at barrio as is. Constantly.

SPEAKER_00:

Baba? You said we're constantly. Hello? I'm a project manager.

unknown:

We have to do it.

SPEAKER_00:

We have hope and prostitution, so we have to work on the new hand passes. And the highest lucid is a very important thing.

SPEAKER_02:

Sorry, there are two hands, you can see the four, like you're not going to be able to do this.

SPEAKER_00:

And to fair wolves home, and to be authentic and authentic. And nobody authenticity struck me. And yeah, we fall in love with something, but I've been back.

SPEAKER_02:

Correct.

SPEAKER_00:

This was a basic studio.

SPEAKER_02:

Perfect time. Perfect time.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Back in the days.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. Next one is an obstacle.

SPEAKER_00:

We have a banda, we have the course. Thank you, man. Thank you. And it's not not the machine. It's a casky brac, single nan, um, yung out of care, it's not another nice. Of course.

SPEAKER_01:

From the outside looking in, nunka no escucha nada di tipo di koos na. It's always been like, hey, kaya kaya, waku na tahasisaki, wake sa ki nang, wake sa ng, bobai e tour ng mita kora sa no sabari ba it tuk tuk ng. Say hiba no stan, bi furant, and to LA, mita kora no sa stop na un kaminda ku what qual no sba get into the whole recycling model. Kumbo se gana say, pero mita kora kun no sa na uza yung botter di plastik, andraf dak kun. And oh Martin. This is so smart. Like Kiman nacha afabo ding a party A, for sure, for sure. Pero bambapimas ding a recycling area. Where do you recycle from the onabusa hai material pa recycle? Drop to the cost n kiki ding. Kung sa kataha?

SPEAKER_00:

What is a logo kuba musi habitante na means recycle to the coast?

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Um activity recycling. And baby, uh, phoenix, this is a party, but we can see a party recycling during the festival, so we have a festival. We have a contribution to the barrier and a cup, and we have a contribution, and we have a contribution, so we can upgrade it. But we have a stage.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, don't test me with a good time, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00:

It's sense to me that that's a banch, but I can't do it.

SPEAKER_01:

That's good. And the full sustainability.

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Um, and looking at the band, the rebuy casting, bash and to cast number popular, a man format, upcycling, recycling, recoast now, we stop the complete. No both. So we put up sorry.

SPEAKER_02:

No, because I had a question about the festival, um, a barrio, and who's a placa, the fiesta reinvest back in a barrio. So basically, enjoy a fiesta, and a placa reinvested back in the community, fixed cases. So the kind of party festival.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, correct. And the order fiesta in a comisa mess or limpia, uh, but no same positive peer pressure.

SPEAKER_02:

But you want to go to the limp? Exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

And to get up, we cast the big package step it up, say, see challenge. And they say it's able to be able to pass and clayton to regional commissions, organized festival.

SPEAKER_02:

I believe.

SPEAKER_00:

And to the spell by the dos, you can do it.

SPEAKER_02:

Kind of like add on and then you can use the area.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, no, it's a yang snack, nothing we say common. Um, yeah, this is a commissary green project, this is the same canal, there's a pencil, six, yes.

SPEAKER_02:

Sorry, back me up on this one. Or we can DSP invitation.

SPEAKER_01:

Deal.

SPEAKER_02:

Deal? Deal. Deal. Kurt, I hope your email finds you well. Yes, yes. There is the mayor. There is a mayor. Hope to hear back from you soon. Thank you. Nice.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, we have to use the sali if you're a man, grita, salina, bye. And the function is a thing critical. But the criticana, not another conscience. And I feel like so me preguntating.

SPEAKER_01:

Keep an end goal. Bamba bye.

SPEAKER_00:

Has it been? Well, pa'ami, we have to be end goal, but sustainable in different manas. Sustainable to the top of the other band about authenticity. We maintain authenticity, but we must have habitants. But we have great, and a gap between the world. But we have to participate. So, we have to make a debit, this is a very important thing to do. Wow, we have to get the different desarrollo. Um, a by the guessing testament, um, process. Okay, it's n could be a local, a hobby, make a keta people in other bands, cut tea, panangeta, and the same panels trajectory. I woke up, but leverage, leverage.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Now that I got your attention, we can mess with us.

SPEAKER_02:

But there's the kayak, then other bands.

SPEAKER_00:

We have to do this. And so we have to see different parties and other bands. So, we have to use the R BMB than other band. Yeah, we have to do this. And yeah, we have a party and we have to do this. And during the edition, we have a master plan game. We will start the conversation of this just. Um worry, this we say, okay, what's next? And to come to us, RBB, um, hobby. Um, I see, I'm you double, we didn't back. It is a hobby marketing, then finance, then kick out of the party cast for the restaurant, to fall in contents, and two my castle, and the thing, and the barrier, and we have serra. We can upload the temporary serra, five star instant, award, and concept. I'm going to see the party, we can see. So it's a double gentrification. And the barrier, or inviting us, and we have dandy, for example, aggressive. Okay, so we can't do it.

SPEAKER_01:

It'd be like that sometimes.

SPEAKER_00:

I love it. But we have to be able to do that. And we have Clayton, not a team funds, we have to do that. Uh Rico, this elic that was a good thing.

SPEAKER_01:

I love that. I love, love, love, love, love to say. We say the front desk, a little mural cuting that atras. If walking distance the turcos, plus putting a food, a food court right there. Oh, that's what that's where they had the guy had the interview. We just walked in, they had an interview. It was kind of close.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, okay, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Huh?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm coming with single single remain of uh remaining.

SPEAKER_02:

No, it's not a good one. No, I'll say the biana na body hotel, check in, could the country? So I'm looking forward to go buyback. It is kind of like exploring. So the most open air, super mana, and the mana but the video. Oh, the community.

SPEAKER_00:

It's a part of the bar, you know. So now loss of cast nan, um yeah, it's other function.

SPEAKER_01:

Pami lo que aha see barrio pa mi duna barrio hotel, look at the essencia di okay, this is really check in to na conos the camera, hey, bosa, it's schizophrenia, greet announcing, whatever. And the other thing is, actually, like, yeah, you do, you do.

SPEAKER_02:

But you you definitely feel like you are part of the neighborhood. You're a visitor.

SPEAKER_01:

You're part of you're coming in, respect who we are, respect what we are about.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

You're a you're a visitor. Enjoy your time here.

SPEAKER_02:

You're a guest in our neighborhood. You're a guest in our neighborhood.

SPEAKER_00:

And you could have a concept. And we'll be able to respect, but we have rust of it, it's a molestia. But we're not going to be high and niche, you just gusta experiencia totally pass complete.

SPEAKER_02:

Big name hotel, before we're going to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_00:

Wow, wow, wow, what are you telling you?

SPEAKER_01:

To be a bit of all. Welcome to the barrier.

SPEAKER_02:

What are you doing? But you have a foot food area.

SPEAKER_00:

See, there's a food area. We have a food area street food, but we have a vendor. And we have to buy revamped October. Um, we have three camps, um, apartment. We have the decorum, the snake, this on the hook, can I say, uh, um, we got to kibra, uh-huh. Um, is it um party the expansion for expand? Um party party possible.

SPEAKER_01:

Um very Instagrammable. Um, very you can get some nice photos of the book.

SPEAKER_00:

And the thing is a camera and a blue building, this is a camera. Oh, it's like a camera. Um, of course, the other band. There's a lot of people, but authenticity, but these are all real people. It's a blue building. No, so then we have to use the same thing. So, we call the region eclaython, fair and strip, couldabata, eka promo, and yen guy, guy and the can be constantly agritament to be adding a barrier, and the crea galina, um, but it's about a barrier about the mass rustico. And a rustico mantine, and we are picked by the body.

SPEAKER_01:

I love that. Beautiful color land. Exactly, exactly. Versus combos bike a balance.

SPEAKER_00:

So, middle than disponibility, or in commercial and the master planning process, and real, it's not a cool click. So, you know what I'm saying? Um, um, I'm the stimulant and then contest to the conscience, I like experience. And to essay.

SPEAKER_01:

And to be in the nancur, a hand and the cross, and then being bishoita, nan tour. Explica nan essay.

SPEAKER_00:

Can you explicit? Authenticidad. Not the tour costing. And the asset and the beanie, a murang A of a cask with the Nanda Sapot, and Sapotria put a yoist. Um That's the aesthetic. For sure. For sure, for sure.

SPEAKER_01:

Anything you say, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02:

No, I don't want to interrupt. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But I mean we take me agree authentic authenticity social media command for build. Hope you must lick the curse, but I'm a shark. Claro.

SPEAKER_00:

But if you have other dimensions, we have a barrio, correct?

SPEAKER_01:

You know, this is the other band, then you can compete with the mass.

SPEAKER_02:

Like, we gotta say, we gotta use a convenience, and we gotta get super bougie, exactly, five stars.

SPEAKER_00:

And that's the new wave of travelers now. Like, I'm like, it's an artistic experience, kut uh banda, kuta, kuta sorry. Hey, this is the area. But Miami ku um please don't cobra espresso martini.

SPEAKER_01:

Whatever boss to have. Please, please, please make sure. Sorry. A tourista nang to being no cater na tourista nunca. Sempre cater na bolokalam. Sempre a promotion go. Exactly. Don't cater to them, cater to catering. Yeah. Sigita, say, tour out of the way.

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, my young biana. So, this is this is the way.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly. Miranda go like, guys, we are going through this. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm down. Shark, you down? Uh this is already the second stage, you know?

SPEAKER_01:

Bam!

SPEAKER_02:

No, maybe it is.

SPEAKER_01:

I stay ready.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, me to logra, ooh, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_00:

I like that. And we have lessons learned. Demasiado grandize, we can see.

SPEAKER_02:

Correct.

SPEAKER_00:

But if you have essential extra, not about 22 million, but we have to see. Um, and we have to try an edition of 26, we have 10. And we have to use partners, and we have for the first time we have a concept of 2006. We have co-creation that we have facilitated and we facilitate the podium. But we have a the theater. We have a theatre, we have present.

SPEAKER_02:

And we have a history of the bar.

SPEAKER_00:

That's the story of the content, who is medal, must be auto direction, and auto direction the other band, but the history of the kosho. Love fantastic.

SPEAKER_01:

Love. Love.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Be in the back. Okay, correct.

SPEAKER_01:

But in the back, na tuk tuk tour kuno sahasi, na paranos na various different art forms, different material ng kummit. Different people, different look, artists and stuff like that. Fantastic. Kim and very, very, very excited payasabra walk. 100%.

SPEAKER_02:

Nah. Excited, my yang kaya kaya. I'm not saying it's a my young, but it's a myam.

SPEAKER_01:

Don't come for me, baby. This is not an invitation. Pero November. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02:

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But this is not hey, but it be space evita.

SPEAKER_01:

This is a light lightness to rob it in on the video.

SPEAKER_00:

Can you send it off to them? Otherwise, we have to ban back an edition of other form. We have extended different parties of other band, we can experience three to 4 days of festival. This is the September, this is more time. Spear means that we are partners. The way of other people are going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, perfect.

SPEAKER_02:

Stop the banda.

SPEAKER_00:

We will. We will buy nostalgia other experiences. So Bokeda Bokeda has in Missunko shit or somebody. You have to.

SPEAKER_01:

Correct them.

SPEAKER_00:

You have to.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, store like light.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm missing Google.

SPEAKER_01:

Ain't nobody got time for that.

SPEAKER_02:

No, no. Antobra Nsa super excited by Kaya Kaya. Otro Mayan. Hopefully, Nostababa Otto Aya.

SPEAKER_00:

Exactly. Alright, done.

SPEAKER_02:

Check it. Official. Official. Official. Alright, um, messenger. Ding description to YouTube. So because I must buy check it out. Bay hotel, by check it out. A website description. Those by check it out. Everything or so, mita recommendable. So this do something different. You have to. Do something different, boza. You have to. And to call subscribe and stop back on sibank. Peace. Ayo. Bye.