No Filter in Paradise
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No Filter in Paradise
Small Actions, Big Impact: Inside Curaçao’s Zero-Waste Movement | EP 216
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We explore how Curaçao turns sustainability into daily habits and shared wins with a recycled pirate, a filmmaker, and a network of partners. Stories, tools, and honest voices show why progress beats perfection and how small actions become big change.
• Club 17 as an ecosystem for SDG partnerships
• The SDG Tracker app and the easier Google sustainability map
• The refillable water bottle with a live refill map
• Docuseries focus on zero hunger and poverty for episode one
• Authentic voices in multiple languages with subtitles
• Hotels reusing water, adding solar, and cooling with plants
• Practical tips for households and drivers
• Kids as messengers for lasting behavior change
• Curaçao’s underreported progress and collaboration wins
• Release plan across YouTube, Facebook, and short-form
• Personal origin of the Recycled Pirate and coaching mindset
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Cold Open And Banter
SPEAKER_06You guys feel like businesses on the island are doing a good job with me being eco-friendly?
SPEAKER_01I had a whole slogan made up. Take your crap back. I became infamous with that. Um so I sit at home behind my computer and I keep writing stories and I send them to JJ, we need to film this.
SPEAKER_05How did you even like first of all?
SPEAKER_01You avoid sleep, coffee is becomes your best friend.
SPEAKER_03100%.
SPEAKER_04The way you think like very much wrong and direct.
SPEAKER_06I need him.
SPEAKER_04You might be able to find it.
SPEAKER_01I got so much respect for this dude, I will hand him my name. Like together we can make this party bigger. And Kaya Kai is like the perfect example. That is such a beautiful grassroots movement that shows how a festival should be organized.
SPEAKER_04So this is gonna be a docuseries? Maybe still straight.
SPEAKER_06The only thing straight about him. Hey yo, what's up?
SPEAKER_04Alec, how's this?
SPEAKER_06Welcome back to the ABC Island Streamer Podcast. No filter in Paradise, a show about anything and everything. We need two amigos. One is straight and the other.
SPEAKER_04Sorry, you said you did the Spanish things.
SPEAKER_06I didn't think you were gonna go say that.
SPEAKER_04I don't know. You just said you just did the Spanish thing. So I was like, oh, we're in a Spanish vibe.
SPEAKER_06Am I having gonna bleep this now? You might have to.
SPEAKER_04It's up to you.
SPEAKER_06Anyways, guys, today we have uh two special guests today. Um, we got Andy and Jay, correct?
SPEAKER_01Yes, thank you for inviting us.
SPEAKER_06No, thank you. Thank you for being here with us today. 100%. We're gonna be learning apparently you're the pirate of the Caribbean. People talk about. I didn't believe it. So I create like this guy's definitely the pirate of the Caribbean.
Meet The Recycled Pirate And The Filmmaker
SPEAKER_01I am the recycled pirate. Hey, here you go because there's only one like me. Um recycle life to make sure that we keep using things and improving things.
SPEAKER_06And Jay, what's your role in this?
SPEAKER_03I am a filmmaker, a storyteller, and uh, I'm here making a documentary about sustainability with uh Andy, a recycled pirate.
SPEAKER_06And how did and how did you guys meet?
Club 17 And The SDG Tracker
SPEAKER_01On social media, actually, on Instagram. I saw his work and I'm like, this dude is awesome. Um, and I he's from Curacao. We met, we had a coffee, and I'm like, I want to work with this dude. Um, he's trustworthy, um, he's creative. Um, I want to see what else he can do. It took a few years, uh, it took a pandemic, um, and then suddenly uh last year um we got a chance to uh uh promote a water bottle for Club Sefety Curacao. Uh we created a special water bottle for for um where's the water there we go? I didn't get a chance to see it again that that water bottle tells the story of Curacao, it's designed by uh design code. Yeah, it is on an iPad uh by Dead Polonius. Shout out to Dead, um uh amazing, talented young lady, and I asked Jay to help me with it and working together, it just clicked.
SPEAKER_06What's this QR code? Yeah, where does it take me?
SPEAKER_01That QR code is the uh water refill map. Um, when you uh scan that, you can find all the points on Cureshow where you can refill that pile for free.
SPEAKER_06Okay, so you know what I realized?
SPEAKER_01Hotels and things like that.
SPEAKER_06I I realize everybody that we've interviewed so far in Careza have something to do with oh, if you scan this, you're gonna find this, you're gonna discover some crazy shit. Sorry, not gonna be this part out.
SPEAKER_04But you know what I mean? It's never just like a basic scan, and here's a page.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah, yeah. Subscribe. Like, no, it's like it's something functional. So you're actually learning something from it. Yes, this is really cool.
SPEAKER_01There's a message for you on the bottom as well.
SPEAKER_06That's gonna insult me. You're like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Deliberate creator, yes, very true.
SPEAKER_01Everything we do, we do it deliberately.
SPEAKER_06Everybody has the same message underneath?
SPEAKER_01No, that this is just for me because I'm the original deliberate creator.
SPEAKER_03There was not enough black and white in there, and he had to like make sure the branding was on it. Um so it was too colorful, yeah.
SPEAKER_01It'd be like that. It'd be like that.
SPEAKER_06Is your closet all like black shirts and like black clothes or um my my yes, yes.
SPEAKER_01Um I have my own um uh merchandise that says stay weird, normal is so overrated. Amen. You I I knew you would love it. Yeah, converse. If I would have had in stock, I would have bring it up. Are you saying I would love it?
SPEAKER_00No, I for you I would bring you're not perfect, period.
SPEAKER_06So that hits the nail on the mark for this trip. It really does.
SPEAKER_04It really does.
SPEAKER_06If you already knew the whole how this trip has gone, that shirt would have fit perfect. That's a shit shirt. That shirt would have fit perfect with me.
SPEAKER_01Well, I'm I'm I'm a life coach, so I I I read people.
SPEAKER_03He gave me one of those two. One of the iconic ones he gave me was like begin anywhere, you know. Make it anywhere, begin, yeah, begin anywhere. As a creative, sometimes you can have thoughts about like, you know, how will it be perceived? Yeah, everything. You have those, like you second guess yourself. And he just gave me this like.
The Water Bottle Story And Refill Map
SPEAKER_01I gave you two posters. Let me remind you real quick. The poster said begin anywhere. And he was a teacher at international school at that point. Uh uh uh it was nice a business class, and I said, Here's one for your class because your students need one too, and this is one for your home, so you'll remember when you look in the mirror and brush your teeth in the morning.
SPEAKER_04Hey, I messed with that. I like that, right? I like that.
SPEAKER_06So I want to talk about um club 17.
SPEAKER_04Club 17, yeah.
SPEAKER_06So, what what is the how did it start? What was the reason why it started?
SPEAKER_04Um, and what is it?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is it? It's it's a club. Um what's in the in the name? Who's the DJ? Look at it. Many people think that I'm Club 17, but I'm not. Um, so so let me try to correct something here. I am the recycled pirate and I'm a partner within the club 17 ecosystem.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_01Um, I joined Club 17 when there were only 10 partners. Um, they were still like uh pretty big uh uh businesses, corporations, uh Limpy Recycling, Green Phoenix. Uh um I don't know if I can mention all the sponsors, but uh Madou and Carioles Bank, Dinaf Group, Aqua Lectra, um Katiba apps, and so forth. And when I joined, I was like, this is this is a good group, um, and we should do more with this because we need to talk, uh, not just we need to talk about sustainability, but we need to make it actionable. Yeah, and they started like collecting the data about sustainability on the island. Uh, they started experimenting with a SDG tracker app, and I just jumped with two legs into that. Like, I want to take this on, I want to lead this project. And before I knew it, um, I was the lead uh developer for the uh SDG Tracker app. With uh a year and a half later, we won the um Curaçao Innovation Technology Institute Circular Innovation Award with it.
SPEAKER_03So as you said, yes, so you guys do you guys know what the 17 stands for?
SPEAKER_04No, I I was gonna get to that as well. I was gonna get to that.
SPEAKER_03The 17, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 17 stands for the 17 Sustainable Developmental Goals, right? Also called SDGs, right?
SPEAKER_01Yes, okay, but the main reason for the 17 is 17 is partnership for the goals, and that's what we're doing. We're being partners for the goals. Okay, partners for the sustainable development goals.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, goal number 17 is partnership.
SPEAKER_04That's that's okay, okay, okay, okay, come through.
SPEAKER_06Everything was like thought out.
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SPEAKER_04Yeah. What it says under the bottle. Delivered creator.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. So I I was already working with several organizations that that where Jay and I met again uh um at Collective Curosaw Foundation, where we were creating a circular economy uh and and a stable coin for Curesau. We're working with blockchain technology. So this just fit. And with Club 17, it's a framework of local companies. Right now it grew into 34 local organizations and companies, um, from foundations to businesses. And I'm an ecosystem facilitator in that. I make sure that more partners join, I make sure that the digital side of everything uh works as good as possible, uh, and that we make sustainability accessible and understandable to all. So your little nephew can understand, but also your grandfather and grandmother can understand.
SPEAKER_06Like, yeah, I mean a nice way to say it. You dumb it down so everybody can understand it.
SPEAKER_01I would like to say I want to smart people up instead of dumbing it down.
SPEAKER_06I mean, I mean, I I understand, you know. Yeah, yeah, but uh are you guys doing like lectures at schools or like uh or people do people come to you guys for to learn about sustainability?
SPEAKER_01Well, as Club 17, we have partner meetings where we target especially hospitality or or the uh um um renewable market, renewable energy market, and things like that. So we are all on the same page and we know what's happening there. Um we share best practices with each other. Um uh and we have partner meetings every three months um where we also like what is new, what is gonna happen next? Where we where can we help each other? And to give you an example, there were two uh big companies on the island that normally would be sitting across the table being each other's competition. Because of Club 17, they look at looked at each other and like, hey, can't we work on this area over here that's challenging? Yeah, and voila, it happens, and that's thanks to Club 17. So that's very important. Again, partnerships for the goals, but all these um 17 SDGs come back into it.
SPEAKER_04Go for it. Sorry, you mentioned a while ago over an uh developing an app. Yes, what is this app about?
Episode One: Zero Hunger And Poverty
SPEAKER_01Um, the SDG Tracker app was uh or is still an app. We're not using it as much as possible uh um and as we could because it's pretty expensive to use. Okay, um, and you can tell that that people another app that they need to download, another app that they need to open. So um I came with another solution for it. But the app is basically um it collects all the sustainable development uh initiatives on the island. It's still active. You can download it from your app store, um, whether you're iOS or Android, um, that's your phone people for the ones that don't know. Um it's called the Club 17 SDG Tracker app. Um, in there, uh in a very simple way, you can see what uh an Aqualecta is doing, but you can also see what example uh uh uh Limpy Recycling is doing or Green Phoenix is doing, or where you can find all the recycling spots on the island, or um what you can recycle, or the latest news. Well, not not anymore because we don't keep it up to date uh that much anymore. Um, but that's that was that app. And next to it we also have the Curacao Sustainability Map, which is a very simple Google map that we created um where you can find again all the recycling spots, but all the experiential tourism spots as well, all the water refill uh spots that you just saw on the water bottle. Um the Kirsau Sustainability Map has been visited uh in less than 11 months, less than 10 months, 11,000 times. Wait, last night, last night I I almost forget 12,108 views, and that's in less than than 10 months. So it just shows um the app is amazing and works very well, but people look for um ease of use, quick, yeah, yeah, and the Google map is even easier to use. So that was like the perfect solution.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, if you want to everything, everything has to be convenienced now. Like if the easier you make it for someone, the the higher the chance they're gonna use it. If I have to jump through five hoops to get to where I want to get, yeah, I'm like, I don't want to. I'm at three. I'm like, okay, I give up. Like, you know, people are unfortunately they're lazy right now.
SPEAKER_03So I have I have both of those things. I have the app downloaded, but also at the same time, I have the link to the the the map, right? The sustainability map. And it's just way easier to go through my 300 tabs that are open on Safari to be like, first of all, start closing that guy.
SPEAKER_06It's messing up your phone to letting you know that it's crazy.
SPEAKER_03Hey, hey, I'm doing better. It was at 500, then I don't know if I have any more tabs, right? I don't even know how many I have. I don't know. Now it's down to 300.
SPEAKER_06So I'm I'm at 32 right now. I'm sorry, 27. I just deleted a few this morning.
Showing Authentic Island Voices
SPEAKER_04Damn, that's good though. So let's talk about this documentary a little bit. Cause very much interested in this. Okay. So what is going on? What is the story behind this? And I I kind of want to hear about you from you, Jay, a little bit since you're you are the storyteller.
SPEAKER_03Yes. So uh, you know, I'm uh as a as a person passionate about storytelling, this allows me to discover all the amazing good things that are happening on the island in regards to sustainability, in regards to like making the island a better place, a more sustainable place, right? So we get to go discover all of this, and then hopefully the idea is we find out all the good that's happening so that more people can contribute to it, more people can take their own actions, or more partnerships can happen. Yes, right. And that's that's that's a very fun, amazing element to it. But there's also like for me, I'll give you a little bit more specific. It's fun to discover these little joys and moments that people experience because of this, right? We have filmed our first episode, and in that uh we we work, we were targeting the sustainable developmental goal of like zero poverty and no hunger, right? Those are those are one and two. I can give you one and two numbers, right? That we have in our minds, but really it's it's about like zero hunger, no poverty. And specifically, we went to go film at the daily meal program. They they make meals for people, you know, that don't have like how would you describe that?
SPEAKER_01180 meals three times a day, uh, three times a week for people um that has have less food and less materials.
Collaboration As The Core SDG Strategy
SPEAKER_03Yeah, less fortune. And so what was the the nicest, one of the fun in interviews to get was the lady that drives the food to the people, right? We asked, you asked, right, like the good and the bad. The bad part for her, the worst part of the experience is when she's late. Because the people are hungry, they're expecting the food. You know? And she she goes there and she's late. That's that's hard, like you know, people are people are waiting. But at the same time, then we asked her, Well, what's the best part about the experience? And she goes there and she's like, when she goes there and she tells them, like, Awe meeting, and like, you know, people get so excited, people get like, ah, like that's what we have for today, you know. You go there, you come there, you announce. It's a simple thing. She didn't make the food, she's just bringing it to them. But it brings such a joy to people's life, it makes their life a bit better. And to be able to document that, like, I didn't know that was happening, right? You didn't know it was happening, but we can document that and capture that, and that makes me feel better. Like, wow, like so cool that we can help, like, just do that. And now, if you more people know about this program, maybe they want to contribute, maybe they want to volunteer. Exactly, they want to support it in any way possible. It's possible because of documentary, the awareness, and telling those stories.
SPEAKER_01So, this is gonna be a docuseries? Yes, because someone is a little bit over or over what is it? Zealous, the word? Uh zealous, ambitious. Yeah. I wanted to do it.
SPEAKER_05I wonder who that is.
SPEAKER_01I I I want to do a podcast. And as I'm as I'm writing this podcast, someone asked me, Hey, can you uh write me uh um a presentation about sustainability on the island? And I'm writing this thing for him, and he's getting very excited. Um, and I'm like, I need to make this a documentary. So I'm talking to him and I'm like, it needs to be a series. And uh the first one was of course uh Daily Meal Program, and and and as we're working on that, and I'm seeing like um Daily Meal Program is getting a sponsor because of what we're doing before before the the the the episode goes live, they're getting two volunteers, uh they're getting a radio commercial because of us. I'm like if we can do this 12 episodes, we are creating a huge impact.
SPEAKER_06You know, I always prefer docu series only because if you do, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, if you do document just a regular document film, you have to compress so much information in a 90-minute gap. But if you have a docu-series, now you have 12 episodes of one hour. Now you have 12 hours, for example, to play with. That's why I prefer docu-series because now you can just focus on meals. One whole episode dedicated for this. Next one's for recycling, next one is for whatever. So I prefer always docu-series. I'm sorry if I'm giving you more work right now, but no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_01I I just want to brag about my buddy over here. Uh, one of the reasons why I chose to work with him is uh um he is excellent with um short movie storytelling. Perfect. Um, he won the um uh uh yeah start blushing. He won't let me see it. Um he doesn't like to brag, but he won the 48-hour film uh project last year with a short, short movie. Uh I can't say I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_05Edit 48 hours?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, right? Film edit 48 hours.
SPEAKER_05Well, how did you even like first of all?
Platforms, Formats, And Audience Design
SPEAKER_03Uh you uh you avoid sleep, coffee becomes your best friend. 100% and you work with more talented people and you're willing to do it.
SPEAKER_06I'm just figuring out like did you already know about the topic of your short film, or you have to go to the street.
SPEAKER_03No, the thing is the way it works is you go there, you pick it up. So you don't know if you're making a drama or a comedy or anything. That's what I was trying to find out because you can't like be like, oh, if it's like you know, you have like you still they give you a character you gotta use, a prop, a line, all of those have to be a part of a film.
SPEAKER_01So you also have to say he he did have like an excellent team around him because his his main character was my girlfriend. So it's a little biased.
SPEAKER_03It's a little biased. Yeah, it was it was his girlfriend Shalini, her daughter Serafim, her sister Mirlany, and like all right, listen, all of y'all show up. It was it was a whole family, it was a whole family of beer. Congrats, man. That's really cool. Yep, thank you.
SPEAKER_0640 hours is is isn't easy to edit script, film, color.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean and it's good. Like, seriously, it's good. I'm not just saying that because it's my buddy and because it's my girlfriend, it's really good. You can you can find it on YouTube. I can't say I'm sorry. Uh um show your shirt. That's the name of it.
SPEAKER_03That's the Ash4 Productions is the YouTube channel. Aiswadi? Yeah, Aiswati Productions. Uh but yeah, you know, I've been doing it for I've done it for five years. I've tried it for five years, and finally this time like hit something like we not only like made a movie that's like good, but like leaves you with an impact, makes you feeling something. Yeah. Uh, because it was it's about someone like going back and thinking, like, hey, what if you had a conversation with your younger self? Right? What what would that look like? And because like, what if life didn't turn out to the be the way you thought your younger self would? Like when you were 15, maybe life didn't turn out the way you thought it would. Yeah, you know? It's and then can you go back and have that conversation with your younger self? What would that look like? And can you or can you not? And like sometimes it can be difficult to say I'm sorry. So that's why I can't say so.
2030 Goals, Reality, And Momentum
SPEAKER_04And even if you if you flip that, because you can turn these type of things into so many ways, yeah. You can also flip that same movie into like what you're doing now with sustainability. Like, yeah, can you tell the to tell the island or the planet that you're sorry after you've gotten so many years into doing so much bad to it? Oh, I like that and not recycling and doing all these type of things. So, what can we expect within this documentary, especially for curacao, when watching, since it's all based here, right?
SPEAKER_01Yes. Um, first of all, you're gonna see the diversity of the island. I want to show all the colors, all the languages, uh um, all the different uh takes, angles, you name it. Um uh Jay understands that very well. Um, when we go to uh to Daily Meal program or any other organization, we let people speak in their preferred language and then add subtitles. So so we we we keep their authenticity, we tell their stories. Um but you're also gonna see all the all the uh big businesses that are doing something behind the scenes that probably no one knows. Like uh Blue Knap America's is uh uh a cloud-based uh organization here on the island, and everyone thinks data center is bad for the environment, which it's it's not very good. But if you see how many things they are doing to lower their carbon footprint, it's awesome. And then to hear how passionate they speak about that, that's very important. But not only that, you see the business uh front side of it, but then you see the people behind it and what drives them. And they are they actually have a vision for the island, and we often forget not just in Kyrgyzau, in the whole Caribbean, and because we are so small, we often forget that it's these people that bring us forward, it's these people that can bring us together. And all we have to do is sit down and listen. Give someone an opportunity, lend them in hand, believe in your own people, believe in your own project. You don't have to go abroad every time and go travel and do things. No, stay here, find someone close to you and go help them. And that's what this documentary is gonna be doing.
Teaching Through Kids And Compounding Impact
SPEAKER_03And we're hoping to give people a little bit of hope, right? Hope I feel like I'm sounding like Batman, like a symbol or like Superman, you know. But it is hope to be like, look, action is being taken. You know, either you can contribute how you can contribute to it, how you can benefit from it, or at least you can witness it. Maybe you go around this time and you see the recycling centers that are like possibly at at the at the supermarket where you go shop, right? Maybe next time you think about like maybe I should collect my my bottles and bring it here, you know? It just just to make it progress. Trigger stuff's mind. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04As like pioneers, you can say behind this project, what is I want to hear from each of you. What is uh the main feeling you would like anybody from anywhere around the world watching this documentaries or these docusaries to take away from that?
SPEAKER_01When we collaborate, we can achieve so much more. Stop criticizing. It's it's okay to have critique on each other. Hey, I would prefer you wear a red shirt for this occasion and a black shirt for that occasion. That's fine. But also let's collaborate. Hey, if you wear this shirt, it will benefit you more. So approach it from that angle. Um, and when that collaboration happens, I have seen it with Club 17, I have seen it with Collectivo, I've seen it in all these organizations I work with, we can achieve so much more. And we need to start seeing how many things are happening in all these big countries that we admire. It's not that positive. And we as a small country, it should be easier for us because we are that small. So let's collaborate.
SPEAKER_03And for me, it's it's a feeling of gratitude and appreciation, right? Like, look at like this these sustainable developmental goals, they're huge, right? They're like big, they're you know, like aiming for zero hunger or like no poverty, that's a huge goal. Yeah, right. And if you look at it from the state of is this goal achieved or not, maybe you like nine times out of ten, I think the answer would be like no, right? But if you look at the progress being made, if you look at action that people are taking, right? I feel like there can be a level of appreciation there and like a gratitude that these things are happening. And for anyone aiming to like aim for those big goals, you can just see like, hey, if you just take action towards it, you're way closer to a goal now than you were before.
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SPEAKER_06I want to know, like, if if people want to get more involved with this, how can they do that in in whatever you're doing, and everything that you're doing?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, of course, approach me uh um at uh at the recycled pirate. Uh uh, you can find me on all the social. Instagram? Sorry?
SPEAKER_06That's your your Instagram account handled, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Instagram, uh, um, Facebook, LinkedIn. Uh um, I'm I'm gonna we're like an iPatch moving forward. May I recycle? I don't have an eye patch, but I do have a cane and I'm not afraid to use it.
SPEAKER_06We heard he has a good lawyer, so we're good.
SPEAKER_01Yes, exactly. Um no, you you can find me on online as the recycled pirate, uh, um uh or you can find Jay uh online at uh ice Fadia Productions. Um you can contribute to that, you can um uh find the the Cursor sustainability map. Um uh use the points where you can recycle, go to the businesses where uh um they uh contribute to to um sustainable tourism. Um there are so many things to be done on the island. Use the platforms that are already there. We are sharing the information. The information is free and it's accessible to all of us. So yeah.
SPEAKER_04I agree with that. I agree with that. Go ahead. I use the topic. I I just really I might okay.
SPEAKER_06Just let me know. I I I want to ask about a little bit more about the film. Is do you have an idea when is it gonna be released? Do you um how many episodes are we expect? We know already about one and two. So is it gonna be a 10? Thank you, truck. It's gonna be it's gonna be a 10 episode, eight episodes. Like, what are we expecting from this? What are other kind of things?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we're we're going for a 12-episode series. Go, right? One specific. So we're gonna cover 17 goals into 12 episodes. So, like for the first episode, we we're tackling sustainable developmental goal one and two, which was zero poverty and no hunger. So episode one's gonna have those two things, and then we have 11 more planned and ready to go. Okay, right?
SPEAKER_06Can't talk about it.
SPEAKER_01Reduced inequalities. Uh uh that's SDG uh um 10. Um, there's gonna be one about uh renewable and and clean energy, there's gonna be one about climate action, there is one gonna be about life below water, that's SDG 14. So we're we're really gonna tackle all the things that you can do, and there are a few SDGs that are um less interesting to to to to to to to the main community. So, what we are doing there is use them in the other episodes. Like um, to give an example, uh partnership for the goals comes back in almost every episode. Uh um SDG 16, uh peace, justice, and strong institutions comes back in in every episode. We're working on a partnership there that unfortunately we can't announce yet. That's fine. But but I do want to leave that cliffhanger there. Um it it's coming, and and with that, we can really show um strong partnerships. I mean, just us sitting here is already uh um uh a good example.
SPEAKER_06The reason why I'm asking is because I'm not sure what your timeline is in releasing all these docuseries, but let's say if this app was to come out a little bit before that, someone's watching it. Oh, wait, I want to support in this one. Like, hey, what's going on, Mr. Pirate? Like, yeah, how how can I contribute to this?
Hotels, Businesses, And Practical Actions
SPEAKER_03So it's called the State of the SDGs, right? That's the name of the the Yeah, that's the name of our show, right?
SPEAKER_01The state of the SDGs navigating sustainability on Curaco.
SPEAKER_04Is this gonna be in on Netflix, on YouTube, on like what platform are we? Can we explain?
SPEAKER_03You know, unfortunately, Netflix has not reached out yet.
SPEAKER_06So uh a keyword, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. We're working on it. Uh but on YouTube, we're gonna have it out on uh on all platforms. We want to make this as accessible to people as possible. So uh we're gonna have it out on YouTube, also on Facebook. And uh, you know, if if if like consuming 20 minutes of an episode gets too much, we'll have like reels about it, you know.
SPEAKER_06There'll be 20 minutes each episode?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's gonna be 20 minutes on on YouTube, on Facebook, we're gonna have shorter episodes. Uh we really we really analyzed uh um who watches where and and how long and how can that be used. The 20 minute episodes are are mostly for for uh policymakers, government workers that want to know more. The ones on on Facebook and and uh the other social media are more for for younger people or more um short um action. Um those are going to be 10 minutes or uh shorts, reels, uh, and TikToks. I mean, you we've we've mentioned a lot the SDG goals and stuff.
SPEAKER_06Uh isn't that the 2030 plan situation?
SPEAKER_01Yes, indeed.
SPEAKER_06So why is that really important right now? I mean, it's what five years from now. So how why is it um why does it matter here now to really focus on these goals?
Simple Habits: Bottles, Plants, Tire Pressure
SPEAKER_01That's such a good question. And um, it's I I need to be careful to not elaborate too much on it. Um, United Nations has a tendency of setting goals that are um impossible to achieve. Yeah, um, and that's basically what they have done with this as well. Um, it's it's not possible to achieve this by 2030 when there is wars going on all around the world. I mean, um, whatever you and I are recycling today, um uh what excuse me, for a whole year, um it doesn't make any difference if one small bomb drops in in Ukraine. So that uh evaporates like that. So yeah, but every little effort that we do is better than nothing. And um, the more people we educate now, uh the more educated people there are gonna be in the future. So hopefully there will be less wars, there will be uh more recycling. So anything we do now, not focusing on the 2030 goal, but let's try to achieve as much as possible for the 2030. And with this documentary, we can do that because it's gonna be accessible to all, it's gonna be usable um in corporate sessions, but also at schools uh for educational purposes.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we're looking for like a compounding effect, right? Like what do you say? Like one of the one of the other projects I'm working on is a is a film called uh Tene Corsa Olimpi to keep the streets of Curacao clean. And in that film, we're gonna have people in power to be positions, people in like positions of power will be kids. So police officer will be a kid police officer, a lawyer will be a kid lawyer.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Uh because at the end of the day, A, hopefully the message comes across better when it's not like adults preaching to you, like, hey, don't throw trash on the street. Yeah. But more like kids being like, Why are you doing this? Yeah. Right? But also the kids who act in it and hopefully are a part of it can then have them be something that stays with them.
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SPEAKER_03Um, and I it happened to me. I was when I was eight years old, I had to be out in a play, like first time being on stage, I was eight years old. And my role was to be an ear because like we were talking about noise pollution.
SPEAKER_04An ear?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. An ear. So like I had a huge like I was eight years old, I was this height, right? And uh here we go. Wait, what's the story here? No, you can finish. Don't worry about it.
SPEAKER_06School play. I was a cactus, a dance cactus in the background.
SPEAKER_03Well, I was so I was an ear. Uh and uh this is this is back in my hometown of uh like where I was born in Mumbai, India. And uh we were we were talking about noise pollution. So I was an ear, and uh I still remember that to this day. Right. And you keep that.
SPEAKER_04You keep that with you.
SPEAKER_03And so that's the effect. Like hopefully the kids that are involved, the people that are involved with the project, you catch them when they're young. Hopefully that will have a compounding effect. Because, like, you know, all those years more than two decades ago, I was an ear in a play, and now I'm making a d documentary with the recycled pirate about sustainability, you know.
Turn Tips Into Daily Reels
SPEAKER_04So you need you need involvement. And I always and I love that y'all y'all are actually doing that because I always say you have to start with the kids are the most unfiltered, and they would hold you accountable of like, hey, why do you throw that to the window? Because in school they said you're not supposed to do that, you're littering and doing all these type of things. I remember telling my parents or like grown people that I was in cars with, like, um, you're not supposed to do that. Why would you do that? You know, like they're like, oh no, it's just a piece of no, you shouldn't throw anything through the window. You should have a garbage in your car, throw it there when you get home, you throw it out. Like that's how it goes. We're seat belts, like certain things. So I like that you are using children to promote the message. They also have like class genota and family, and so the reach is definitely gonna bring way more awareness versus using the adults. So I really appreciate it. I like that.
SPEAKER_01I I love the word he used compounding. That that that's that that's a perfect word. Um it's the the compounding effect of this. It's true.
SPEAKER_06Where where does Curissao stand right now in this whole uh as G SDG goals and stuff?
SPEAKER_01Um way more than people think. Um, I'm so surprised how negative people are.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_01Uh in what sense? Um that that that we are behind or or that we're lacking. Sure, that there's always things that that are not good enough. We can always always do better, but we're doing really well. Um the amount of plastic that we export to a proper recycle um centers in the Caribbean, it's really good. It's it's uh we we should be doing better, we should be aiming for more, but we are really making the effort.
SPEAKER_06Uh especially for a small island, I'm pretty sure doing really, really well.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Um the the way we're communicating with each other uh um about renewable energy. Renewable energy we're doing really, really well. Uh, people complain about the internet connection on the island. No, the internet connection is really really well. What is not really well is your modem at home. So um we are uh very advanced, we just don't know yet, and we don't understand what we can do ourselves to improve to to to close that gap. Because the corporation can do something, um, uh, but the the private person also needs to step out of it. Yeah, yeah. It's not just about your rights, but also about your obligations, uh, your duties um to make things work.
SPEAKER_04I honestly feel like, especially after like this series comes out, of like, because we've learned so much in this past few days that we've been recording here, 100%, and the amount of sustainable practices and people that y'all have and the things that y'all are doing here on the island, y'all are extremely advanced. Even something like Kayakaya and very good example. Y'all are like so advanced. So I think maybe because a lot of babies part of the island is not doing it, they don't understand how far you are until they actually sit down and actually see all of these practices that you all have been contributing to. And I feel like that's gonna really wake people up to be like, oh whoa, I have not been doing nothing. The island has these people actually have been doing a lot, and me at home sitting here doing nothing but complaining and going on Facebook and be like, yeah, but we're not doing anything. No, you're not doing anything, exactly. Like, people are actually out here doing the damn thing.
SPEAKER_03I I think like one of the best ways I think about it is like we are doing things and we can always be doing more, and hopefully it's like it's just a constant, like we are in progress, right? Uh, I think the key thing is when when people complain, I think they forget that we are making progress. Yeah, you know, and I think that's that's where we're at.
Coaching, Tools, And Building Capacity
SPEAKER_04We are in a process of but it's how many how many people don't know what is actually going on because I would have never known none of these things, and how many times have I come to Kiracao? I didn't know none of these things, limpy branch, how for like Paula? I would have never known, and you come to the island so much, but it it was basically this to go back to the beginning of our conversation.
SPEAKER_01It was when I saw that we were gonna create the app with Club 17, and I was like, this is what we need to make people understand what's happening because I'm I'm hearing people complain every time, I'm I'm hearing people talk about the lack of things, but it's right there, you just don't know. Exactly as I'm as I'm interviewing people, I'm writing all this content, I'm I'm putting it in the app, and still people are like, Yeah, but they don't do this. Stop looking at what is not there, look at what is exactly, and let's work from there. And um, when we won the the the Circular Innovation Award as well, even then people were still like, Yeah, but this is not it's not about what is not happening, it's about what is happening. And where can you contribute? What are you doing?
SPEAKER_04Like, how can you help us make this bigger?
SPEAKER_01Together, we can make this party bigger. And Kayakaya is like the perfect example. That is such a beautiful grassroots movement that shows how a festival should be organized, and this is happening on Curesau. Yeah, be freaking proud, people. Exactly. This is Kaya Kaya. Tell them, tell them this is Kaya Kaya. This be freaking proud. The team from Kayakaya, you're doing amazing work.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, we had a good time there. It was our first time. Yeah, we tried to come next to you.
SPEAKER_04What I also loved, and this is not to throw you under the bus.
SPEAKER_06I like the warning.
SPEAKER_04He forgot his cup at home. Yeah, and nobody would serve him drinks just because he didn't have a cup.
SPEAKER_06He's like, What you're calling? I don't have it. I'm in cope ora. I'm like, bro, I love that.
Vision For The Year And What’s Next
SPEAKER_04I love that they did not fold and be like, ooh, okay, here, we still have a plastic cup. No, it's like you don't have it. I can't serve you. Yeah, we suspically you wristbands and everything else.
SPEAKER_01I I want to tell you an anecdote. That that whole idea of that thing started years and years before Kayakaya started. It's one of the organizers of Kayakaya. He used to do that for Oktoberfest in in Punda years before he did Kayakaya. So he was doing this way before people were talking about it, uh, way before it was called Region. I know you're there. So that that's that just showed he he was so uh advanced of his time. Yeah, and um, and that's exactly what keeps inspiring me as well. I know these people that are doing this behind the scenes, they don't go out there and look at what I'm doing. I'll do that. I can't go to Kayakaya because of my legs and because of my disability. Um so I sit at home behind my computer and I keep writing stories and I send them to Jay, Jay. We need to film this. I don't have time right now. I'm I'm at Kayakaya. Did you go?
SPEAKER_03I I was not able to go this year. I was just recovering a little bit from the flu, but I've been before. Okay. And what I love is what they like, what I love about them is uh before Kayakaya the event that week, you can go to and just have art walks, right? Like you can you can go there and just go check out all the art and everything. And so it's really promoted that. I've seen some amazing like art projects, especially like photography.
SPEAKER_06Like I just saw one the one day, um, I think the brion mini market or whatever. There's a cross. There is a uh a plasti the plastic one, the girl. You took a picture of it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, oh, the new one. That's the new one. Shout out to Omar Sling. That's his word.
SPEAKER_06That was really I kept staring. I was like, is that plastic? I had to go closer, take a look. Fucking plastic.
SPEAKER_01He uses even more recycled pirate than I am.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, he might use carefully he might lose your name. Go, uh, what do you call it? Three market real quick.
Why Sustainability Matters Now
SPEAKER_01He might be a recycle pirate, but he's not the recycle pirate. I got so much respect for this dude. I will hand him my name. Like he this this, I mean, artists need to recognize artists, and uh uh Omar Sling is just and but his brother as well. We have so many, so much amazing talent here on the island, and I'm so happy that they're finally being celebrated. I grew up here on the island, and there was so much smack talking about uh we were keeping each other small, and when I see what the newer generation is doing, they're really elevating each other, they're really yeah. I mean, we're still talking smack um um for fun. Constructor characterism. Ah man, come on, you can do better.
SPEAKER_04Like it makes the work go faster, right? Ah, you want to talk shit about me? Okay, let's go.
SPEAKER_01Next thing you know, a big piece of art. But Omar, um Francis, uh Garek Marcina, uh um uh the whole art in Yang Cure Shao has exploded in the last couple of years. Um, we want to celebrate that, and that's also part of sustainability. Yeah, sustainable cities and community, SDG 11. Um, there you go. A little bit of education in the uh in here as well. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_04So I want to know this is like just bringing it back just a little bit. Where did you where did your your your your passion for sustainability, so sustainable practices and being a recycled pirate come from? Like when did this start? How many years do you have into this? And like I really want to know the backstory a little bit to this.
Closing Thanks And Links
SPEAKER_01Oh uh that's gonna be a separate podcast and we're gonna go very bad. I I'll I'll I'll I'll tell you. Summarize it, summarize it. Yeah. I'll tell you the the the big change. In 2012, I had a life-changing accident. Um, I went scuba diving, uh, was very irresponsible, went too deep for too long. Um, my partner hold her breath when we had to do an emergency ascent. She passed away because of lung embolism. I was paralyzed from my waist down and had to learn to walk again. When you suddenly in a wheelchair uh in a bed and people need to come to you to come clean you up and feed you and everything, you start looking at life a little bit differently. When you suddenly have to live uh back with your parents at a mature age and you have to depend on them and you need to see what you're gonna live from. And you're living from a welfare which is 160 guilders every two weeks. Um, that's not life. Um that's not even survival. So I am I'm I'm starting to get emotional here. Um I I just saw the only way out for me was to become a sustainable masterpiece. And the only way for me to do that is take what other people were throwing away, uh make that something valuable and sell that to tourists. I had a whole slogan made up take your crap back. Um and I became infamous with that. And with that, um someone saw me uh uh on on um on Twitter or on Instagram and was like, hey, I like what you're doing, I want to help you with your business idea, and I'm the Caribbean pirate, and I want to change my name into something with recycling. So I think about recycled pirates, and she said, No, Andy, you are the recycler because there's only one. Your life story is amazing, and you need to get out there. You need to share your, yeah, but I'm afraid. And well, go out and be afraid. Um, embrace it. And I've been doing that since. And uh, every time I I see the people that I encounter with him uh as well with the poster with Begin Anywhere, I thought that was a stupid slogan. I'm like, yeah, it doesn't, and he sees that, Andy, this is amazing. I want one. And I'm like, okay, I need to keep doing this. I got two. So yeah, that's uh um, and again, I love my island. Um, I lived in in Europe, uh, I worked in Germany, I worked in Spain, I worked in the Netherlands. Um, but this place, this rock is magical. Um, uh I and I just want to make it a better place. I want to make sure that the the day I die and they they they uh throw my ashes somewhere, that my ashes come and and be uh thrown at a place that I know I have improved. And hopefully they'll do it uh just around the mango tree so I can drop some mangoes on people after my death.
SPEAKER_06You deserve it!
SPEAKER_04Here's the minimum. Y'all love mangoes here. I noticed in Kirasau. Like, y'all really about that mango life here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, I mean it's it's free fruit from from from from the soil, yeah. And we can do so much with it. You can make wine with it, you can make chutney with it, you can make jam with it, um, and you can throw it at people. Let's not let's not use that as a promotion.
SPEAKER_06Oh, it's staying in here, it's not going anywhere.
SPEAKER_03We don't think anything out. Oh, yeah. Mango pika is so good, man. I I like spicy food, so when they put like mango pika, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04That mango chestnut.
SPEAKER_06I never I never had a mango mango pika.
SPEAKER_04Really?
SPEAKER_06Yeah. I had the pineapple ones in Aruba.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, some sometimes they make pineapple, sometimes they make ones with mango.
SPEAKER_06But like local?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Okay, I need another word this mini market is. No, I need to buy a bottle. Yeah. I'm trying to take this back. I'm an Indian, but I've I I love spicy food. Yeah. So I'm definitely gonna find them a magnetic.
SPEAKER_01It's a good experiential tourism spot, and I can't come up with where they sell it right now, except for one place, but that's only open on Saturdays.
SPEAKER_06You should know, man. Jay. You should know. Come on. Come on, Jay. You know, you probably have the plug. Okay, listen, bro. I need like five bottles.
SPEAKER_03Like I mean, I I I wish I'm a little bit more dependent on the on the supermarkets and when they have it too busy making movies. It'd be like that. A little bit, yeah.
SPEAKER_06I have a question. Um, do you guys feel like businesses on the island are doing a good job with me being eco-friendly?
SPEAKER_01Um, well, again, I I've put all these 500 sustainable initiative uh uh uh targets in the app. Um so I think yes. Um I wanna uh give an example in tourism. Uh, there is a hotel, um uh Avila Beach Hotel, where they painted the walls in a way that the building stays cooler. They made sure to uh put uh uh plants in the wall to keep the walls cooler so it needs less air conditioning. Um they put solar panels on the roof so they have renewable energy. There's another uh resort, uh Chicago Beach uh resort um that has uh um uh uh lights in there that go uh go off as soon as you leave uh the the the room for a certain amount of minutes. And the same goes uh for the air conditioning. Um they didn't just do that. From the beginning, when they built the whole resort, they made sure to make the septink tank under the resort, so all the plants are watered with the water that comes from the septink tank. So there are so many things happening, and again, it's never enough because we are humans and we always want more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also, yeah, tourism is it it's it it is not always good for the for um for the island, but it brings a lot of jobs. And this same resort that um is providing these tourists with an a beautiful experience and is making sure that the water is being reused and making sure there is renewable energy, so also making sure that their people that work there actually get a pension fund because these people normally wouldn't think about that. So they're doing so many things, and that's also sustainability. So there's so many things happening with with businesses. Um, one of the bigger bank banks on the island, my uh we had a birthday celebration this last Saturday, and I'm talking to my aunt that worked her whole life at this bank since a young girl, 19 years old, until now. Uh, I think she's near nearing um 68 or something. Um all her life she worked in this bank, and this bank has really helped her develop into what she is now, and now she can go on cruises and enjoy life. Nice. That's also part of sustainability because she is provided for because she worked hard. And yes, these companies do that. And we as humans always like to look at what's not good, and I'm trying to help people to try to look at what is good and where we can improve that good to even better.
SPEAKER_06I mean, that's good to hear that people are. I like the part of the hotels doing their part as with the recycled water, solar panels, the sensor lights, all that really helps.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, speaking on that, because I I really like that. What are sustainable practices you all can recommend to because it's good that we have companies doing this, yeah, but if we have to tackle the average Joes, the the regular islanders that living on a day-to-day basis, what are sustainable practices you think you could give to them as like a gem, like, hey, you know what? Just by simply doing this or making this change at home, you are also participating in this. Like, what what to you would be that? Oh man, I have lists.
SPEAKER_03I'm fine. I will start I will start with one, then you can you can think of which one in the list you want to pick. Right? But the simple one is straight up like we all need to drink water, it's freaking hot, right? Have like a water bottle that is not like you know, like a steel, sustainable, whatever you want to keep it, right? That keeps your water cold too, right? Like that one right there. There's an example. There's an example. It doesn't have to be this one. Yeah, it does have a cool design. Doesn't have to be this one, but just have a water bottle that you're using from so you're not using plastic bottles again and again. Simple one at home, every day, right there.
SPEAKER_01That that is one that's a good one as well. Um and and a large one, so you you will stay hydrated with that one. Stay hydrated. Um the other thing that you can do at your home, um reuse your water. Um, your water from your sink in in um uh in in the kitchen, use it for for your garden, um, use it for uh other things around the house. Um but also plant more trees and plants around your house. Stop being afraid of nature. Those plants keep your building cool. Yes, they also bring mosquitoes, maybe, but you can do something else about that. It helps to keep your building cool. Um, another thing that you can do when you drive your car, make sure that your tires are pumped at at the right uh pressure. It will save you gasoline.
SPEAKER_06What it will meet up strength. Yes, the only thing great about them.
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SPEAKER_01I need help to write this all down and and know how to teach people this and and inform people because there's so much information that I've gotten in the last eight, eight, six years that I've been working on this. It's insane. Um, just with your car that you drive every day, uh, every day with, just make sure that that the tires are pumped. Just make sure.
SPEAKER_06I mind that tire pressure thing when I go back because I don't even have one.
SPEAKER_04Can I give you a suggestion before you continue with this list? Yes. Can you just like use your your your page and just make one reel each day of like one practice? That's all we need. Just one practice a day.
SPEAKER_06Put your phone, say, hey guys. Hey, today, this is a reason number one why you should pump your save gas. Come follow for more tomorrow.
SPEAKER_00That's a good one.
SPEAKER_06If you do that at this point, you have no excuse. Yeah, exactly. What is your excuse? You already sit at your desk, you're not going to buy a little light at your face. I'm telling you, at your face, it's very simple. Use your phone, do not make it complicated. As organic as possible. Put your phone, maybe a small little light, depending on how your room is. Yeah. And just have one little mic and say, hey guys, here's three reasons why you should make sure your tires are pressurized, right? Save gas, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You do that every single day for one year. You will see your social media change a lot, and this will be beneficial for your docu series.
SPEAKER_04Because then people are gonna be like, But for everybody, because how many people don't even know this information? I did not know how you even got to a full list, and I'm already shocked. We're like, oh damn.
SPEAKER_06Okay, I'm already at the at the tire pressure thing. Save gas.
SPEAKER_04That's why we didn't even go through my car, it's not just that three things.
SPEAKER_06I know. Do it. I mean, I don't want to hear excuses.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we don't follow you have to do it. I'm seeing the Notion page being created in his head. I work with Notion. I love Notion.
SPEAKER_06Me and my business partner, we make we make reels for big companies back in Aruba, and we post consistently almost every single day. Their accounts blew up. So this is good for you to promote, even if you want to promote something else in the future, by you building a fan base for yourself, you can now promote anything that you want to promote. And people have followed me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, no pressure.
SPEAKER_06Jay, put pressure when you see him, right? We're not around, but like you're gonna be.
SPEAKER_01Listen, listen, I'm gonna when I was working on the SDG tracker app, I started with a list to do exactly that. Um, but there is so much. Once the creative juices come flowing, there's so much that I want to do. Um, and it isn't until now that I'm working with Jay, and and I'm I feel like, okay, I have Jay by my side, so I I I can relax that I know um the documentary is coming. I answered all the questions about Cap Cut.
SPEAKER_06Leave leave all the the hyperduct stuff for him. But what we're talking about is putting your phone, all right guys, listen. Limited. I'm gonna show you how to save guys. You see a tire, you know, educate people like you have to do it. Yeah, I'm I'm telling you, it's gonna it's gonna help a lot.
SPEAKER_04It's you know what, Jay? Give him the poster he gave you back. Yeah, yeah. I need to do it.
SPEAKER_00It's actually hanging in my um.
SPEAKER_04Well, you need to get it, you need to receive it back. You already have it, you need to receive it like a different version of it, print a different color of it.
SPEAKER_01We we didn't come to this point, but um, I write quotes, I write inspirational quotes as a recycled pirate. Basically, my my whole thing from getting out of the wheelchair and becoming a social entrepreneur, I use that to to to coach other people, being a life coach and that begin everywhere, anywhere um um is part of that. So um after giving him that quote, I printed it for myself, framed it, and hung it in my office as well. So I see it every day. But I begin at so many places. Um, and as he said, if you look at my Notion page, I just in the last um um in the last 10 days, I produced a whole educational series about using Notion, using ChatGPT, using the city. Notion's the best thing ever. Um Gemini, using Google Workspace um as product productivity. I I just got certified as a coach Pafuturo by the Ministry of Economic Development here on the I. Nice, congrats, congratulations, and thank you. But I'm I'm I'm working double time, over time with so many things, and this is absolutely gonna be on my target list.
SPEAKER_06It needs to be like top five. The reason why, because like you you said you like to write. A lot of people don't like to read. People people we have short attention span, so like even like if you're maybe if you're trying to explain something, do it while like you have you're making tea, you're doing this, just do that because you're moving. People are like, why something is consistently happening in the video? It's like psychological things that that work.
SPEAKER_03Andy, I you you you you're dancing around it, and you gotta be like, you gotta just make one. This tire thing, just we just gotta like put the time. We'll go outside right now.
SPEAKER_01Remember last year when I started my own podcast? It was you that got me to to to what was it, 10 episodes to 20 episodes, 12 episodes? It was I I need him in my life as well to coach me as I'm coaching him. So uh and and thank you now for this question. I'm I'm gonna send you messages now. Please, like any any questions, let us know.
SPEAKER_03The more videos you make, think about it this way. He loves his office. Big ergonomic freak, right? Perfect to like make get that get the perfect mouse, the perfect like everything, you know, the keyboard and everything.
SPEAKER_06Exactly. I know, it hurt their wish. I'm gonna end up like him, you know.
SPEAKER_03So so think about it this way. You make this, right? You gotta put one out, and the more you do it, the more people can see your fancy office. That's that's you gotta get yourself issued.
SPEAKER_06It's the reason for listen, and it's easy, it's super easy because you don't have to move away from your desk. An idea pops. If you have a little setup already, like a little light, and a little stand, like a magnetic one on what phone you have, and you just clip it on, press record, and then whatever juice is flowing, you start talking to the camera right away. Now you've created a little journal that you can go back to, like, what was the thing I was thinking about? And then you can write it into a blog or take that video, upload it on chat.
SPEAKER_03You have to be transcribe this into a him like you talking about it this way has inspired me to just make reels about storytelling. Just like one day. Why do you have social media if you're not gonna use it?
SPEAKER_06Like I'm really gonna give any advice, but I sometimes I was about that's why I was tying it.
SPEAKER_04I was like, what are you doing? How do you think about it? Because we do it all right.
SPEAKER_06I know what to do, and it's just like I just don't have anything for myself.
SPEAKER_04No, you have to do it.
SPEAKER_01Same here. The sustain the the Cureshock sustainability map. Um, from the moment I start with that, I'm on the phone, uh sending emails, messages to to all these uh um uh local organizations that are doing something with sustainability. So I I forget about myself because I want to put them um um before. But now that the sustainability map is functional, now that uh the documentary is coming, I'm gonna have time for this. There you go. Um, so and this fits perfectly for the coach Pafutura to promote himself on your day. Send me the minute.
SPEAKER_00Send me your invoice. Listen, every every that's my favorite word.
SPEAKER_06Love those sentences every morning. You have a coffee. All right, guys, tea time with the pirate.
SPEAKER_01Or coffee with the code. Wait, wait, wait. Coffee. Oh, okay. When you have your coffee, tea time with the pirate.
SPEAKER_06Whatever you prefer, there's rings and your little bamboo cup. I don't know what you have at home, but like uh just like you do that, right? Every morning, you hey, here's the your one note.
SPEAKER_04You should already have a mug that is logoed to start with. Because do I do I the brand? Did I?
SPEAKER_03So he has Brandon King. Your mug needs to be branded. He has he has stickers, right? Like these hard-shaped, like if you look at that logo, like that part with the peak. Right, right. So he has stickers, and I and I had received like these one of those corporate style, like white mugs with nothing on it. Yeah, yeah. So I just put his logo on there, and I'd be like, Look, I have I have you in spirit with me, like you know. I have a mug.
SPEAKER_00I don't know if you have a mug. No, I I I I gave it away actually.
SPEAKER_01I was coaching someone, and she just came out of a nasty breakup, and she needed uh uh um uh uh a mug. She she she needed she needed some love. So I I poured something in the mug, made her smile, and she said, I really love this mug. I said, Take it home. I want you to drink from it every morning this morning from here, and to remember this conversation that we just had. Yeah, and you're watching. I still love you, you're doing amazing. Keep going. There you go.
SPEAKER_04Pirate with the heart. Let's go.
SPEAKER_03So all the way to the case. But I love this. I love this part of the conversation where like just talking to each other. This is the compounding, this goes back to the compounding effect. We just talked about our documentary. From there, you asked the question. Now we have an idea, now you have a way to make more content, right? I have a way to make more content, he has a way to get another invoice. So everybody wins. You don't get anything, you're perfect.
SPEAKER_04Benefiting, excuse me. You did that invoices for no filter, baby. What? Y'all be effed up.
SPEAKER_06So we're gonna be closing out soon. So I want to know what is your vision for the rest of this year and your vision for next year.
SPEAKER_01Um, and I'm just gonna make connections and I'm gonna help people open up to to to talk and receive um about sustainability. Um, I'm gonna make sure that the the people that I work with really know um that people that are people out there that are actually listen. Um, as you said, we are so easily distracted by your phones and there's so many uh impulses from there. So I make sure that when I'm sitting here, uh we didn't have a phone. Um we are really looking at each other and we're talking to each other, we're listening to each other. Um, we the same. So I'm that that is really my goal for the coming year. Um, as I said, the documentary is coming, uh, my productivity uh um uh suite is coming to teach people how to use the digital tools that they have uh um right now. There are no more excuses to feel uh to feel dumb. Um uh when you do feel dumb, go to YouTube, make yourself smart. It's very simple, very easy. There are these uh Ruben guys that make an amazing podcast. Go look that.
SPEAKER_06I was like Ruben guys, I'm like, who are you talking about? I didn't know where he was. I didn't know where he was going with this. I I knew that instantly.
SPEAKER_01I I love rooting for people, so uh with this, I'm I'm rooting for you. Uh um thank you. Um so that that that's that's gonna be the the the whole idea behind the series, and that's gonna be that's gonna continue with with my my my goals um as the recycled pirate, recycling other people's lives.
SPEAKER_06Awesome, man.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, for and for and for me it's about making like you know capturing stories that have impact, right? For the longest time, I didn't mean I've been in video production, I was a human tripod, right? I'm just there because I have the camera and like I'm the human tripod. But you know, uh from making the the 48-hour film that won and and everything I realized I can really capture emotions and really have an impact on people. So now I just want to tell stories that have impact. And this, what we're doing here with sustainability, it's gonna lead to impact, progress, and hopefully that compounds into a more better island for us.
SPEAKER_06I know I already asked us, but I don't feel like I think I didn't get an answer. Do you have an idea when you might release the first two episodes? Would it be this year or next year?
SPEAKER_01No, uh uh we're definitely gonna release the five this year.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_03Later this year it's coming out, right? We're just getting the last bit of content sorted out because the thing with documentaries are like with a film you can prepare, right? And you're gonna have your shoot days and you can have editing days. With documentary, we're certainly reliant a little bit on other people on when we can. Fact check and stuff like that. Right? Like that that's that's why I can't give you like, hey, that's the date. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_06But we're gonna get all your once you get all your facts in order. Can we fact check this? Is it true? Okay, cool.
SPEAKER_03We we have we have episode I can tell you this. We have episode one filmed, right? And we are on the editing stage to like make sure that we can release to get it out. And so definitely, like he said, this year, we're already gonna come out with it. Okay.
SPEAKER_01I just want to make sure that the viewers know this. This dude over here protects my sanity without him knowing it.
SPEAKER_04Listen, I was about to say, I can see why Jay is here. Yeah, because Jay is the filter, baby. It's like, hold up, hold on, hold on. He was like, I wasn't gonna say that. I was gonna say it like. Very much wrong and direct.
SPEAKER_00I need him. I understand now. I understand now. He sees me in private, and I'm even less filter over there. So thank goodness he can handle it.
SPEAKER_04I definitely see that. I definitely read that.
SPEAKER_06Alright, let's close it out, Shark.
SPEAKER_04Let's do this. Okay, guys, gentlemen. Before we close out, we got one last question for y'all. And this is not for us. This question is for the viewers. Okay. So I want you all to uh please talk to these people and help them understand, okay? Not just them, but everybody that's watching. Why is sustainability practices so important to the world?
SPEAKER_01Not the silence. What I'm giving him a chance because I always go first. So I'm I'm I'm but I'm I'm I'm ready.
SPEAKER_03Right? So sustainability is important because you can do you can take action today that makes a better future tomorrow. But more than anything, you have a chance here to like leave the island in a better place, right? Maybe make make people's changes and lives a little bit better. And if you can take a little action yourself that makes the lives around the people around you better, what better way is there to live? So that's that's why it's important.
SPEAKER_01High five your face. That's I I couldn't have said it better. It's basically every action that you can do counts. Whether it's bringing your phone to a recycle center, whether it's throwing a a bottle in the recycling bin, every little action counts. It's one piece of litter, less that we have to worry about. And just that tiny little bit, if you compound that with 160,000 people that live on this island, we have a lot a lot less mess. So every little thing that you do counts. And if we do it together, that's a huge impact. Shout out to all the social impact organizations here on the island that are doing great work. And it doesn't matter if you're on QSO, if you're on Aruba, Bonaire, wherever you are, every little thing that you do counts.
SPEAKER_04All right, Andy. Real quick, sorry, I just want to say you really are a storyteller. Yeah. Because that pull up definitely gave me diary CEO. He was like, let me tell you about sustainability real quick. That's a movie maker right there. You know what you're doing. All right, close this down.
SPEAKER_06Andy J want to thank you guys for coming on the show. Um I would do, I would want to say this for both of you. I feel like we're gonna have two separate uh episodes in the future. One because I want to know this whole story that happened, what made you who you are today. And I want to know about this whole 48, we're gonna film this movie in 48 hours and how your whole work is shaping things in um in Curaçao. So thank you for coming on the show. Thank you for having us. No, no problem. Absolutely. And guys, if you learned anything today, well, I hope you learned you learned today. I was gonna say, if you want to learn some more today, go in the link down below. Because all the websites, there you go, you're gonna have to send me the link of the YouTube channel where you're gonna post all these episodes. Yeah, so all that link is gonna be in the description. Go click, go subscribe, go check it out, and um, we will see you guys next time. Peace. Ayo the