Dangui Oduber: Aruba’s Big Hospital Mistake & Airbnb Problem | EP 219

What happens when Aruba’s biggest strength—tourism—starts creating some of its biggest problems? In this episode, we talk with a returning guest who understands policy from the inside. We break down how leadership changes hit real budgets, why “more tourists” isn’t always better, and how the volume-versus-value debate affects housing, wages, and our most crowded areas.

We get real about carrying capacity, the push for higher-spending visitors, and what it means to protect local quality of life. We also dig into the hospital project that exploded past its budget—and what that says about planning, priorities, and who pays for mistakes.

From clearer rules for vacation rentals to smarter use of refinery land, we focus on practical fixes and putting essential infrastructure first. Plus: market diversification, measuring “quality” tourism, tax updates that actually help workers, and why hotel growth must translate into dignity at work.

If you care about smarter policy, fair growth, and a stronger future for Aruba, this conversation lays out the choices—and tradeoffs—we can’t ignore. If it resonates, follow, share, and drop a review with your take on what Aruba’s next chapter should look like.

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Transcript

Cold Open And Guest Welcome

SPEAKER_02 0:00

That's a very political answer, huh?

SPEAKER_03 0:01

Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, you didn't know the first time. So, we have to do this.

SPEAKER_01 0:24

Let's go. Oh, oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 0:45

Like old sing vast. Stop! It makes no sense. And not that un smart investment. Sorry, kumiko. I don't care. Pero I personally feel an i kuto personal action by the way. Sorry. Hey yo, what's up? I like how.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

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SPEAKER_03 1:27

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Roles, Stress, And Governing Under Pressure

SPEAKER_02 1:33

Alright, man, I was doing gas back out. I think we can call this the trilogy episode. This is the third time. Third time we have Mr. Dangue Udiber.

SPEAKER_03 1:45

Dangwito!

SPEAKER_02 1:46

Dangito! Hey, he's good. Good to be back. Good to be back.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

Thrilled to be back. Always fun to be back. Boom! Boom! Dushi, tranquillo. Menus stress. It's role to put parliamentary, obviously, but there is a role different. But the role is responsibility with responsibility and it's different, or the parliamentary, or assume the role of governance. But we passed the minister, and the time, the pressure, stress level, next level. We have to go. Beyond the next level, we can have a pandemic. Hopefully, the proximity is tourism, we have salute and tension. We have economy, tourists are playing, the sector of salute is the work. And then we have hospitality.

SPEAKER_02 3:43

That was a very political answer.

SPEAKER_01 3:49

Ladies and gentlemen, you didn't have a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 4:01

You know, if things get too political, just cut bo off. It's A1. Dangi di Pontong, Dangi Di, wherever you.

SPEAKER_03 4:17

I don't know why he's here, but anyways, okay, so what? At this point, there's not a play. But member can come at this point. So if you have different this time around, and you are accountable, you can't say that.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

Sorry, you have to do this.

SPEAKER_03 4:50

So you got Mr. Wendrik Cecilia. Okay?

Party Leadership, Succession, And Accountability

SPEAKER_01 5:08

No, I'm a preguntable. You can see what we have to do with leaders. I want to contest the pregnancy, I'm sincere, honest, and the organisation have a success plan. I consider an organization in the finale of 18 voters, and we have to prepar the particular future. And in the quadruped, we have to have the particular leader of the particular candidate. And we have a success and the election, obviously, lider the ministers who are admirably opportunity to design as person, political. It was the Success Plan to the leader of the particular transition natural. But in this moment, we assume this role in our participants, and we have a moment that we have a year because we have a success plan, but we're natural and for the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 6:53

So we said, we have countdowns.

SPEAKER_03 7:12

That was your words.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

No, I will discuss the election, but we have to go. But we decided the election was premature. In the finale Congress of the particular deciding in form democratic when it is the leader of the particular. There are other candidates who have ambition to lider the particular day in the Congress decided when it is the successor of the leader actually, Sr. Waver Cruz. But we registrar the particular registration is anonymous.

SPEAKER_03 8:11

You know what? Lagami puntabo isaki. Okay? Does map ultimate election? Facts are facts. It is what it is. See, we differentiate sure Eric isaki no pasa. Kiko abolo has different ding sentido di, hey, maybe unlista no bo, um clearly, it is a mister campia. Ungambio mister Bing Paso. Pueblo taka di bo. Like the antics, they're getting old. Correct. It's old school politics. A leader.

SPEAKER_02 9:04

But the election is both MAP and AVP voting.

SPEAKER_01 9:15

Let's go. Oh! But in the case, Mike Drop. Now we see the leader of the particular laist tracker. And so Mike is number 29 from less dure. Now we're going to do that. I'm going to do that. You said what you said. It's not a good one. And we try to innovate. No, I'm going to go. No, I think that's innovative.

SPEAKER_03 10:28

But I'm going to pueblook me not in confiance and the DCD of finally Congress DCD About Sakiko, Dangi take over. Kiko Abo has different convinces that Aruba could be blasting, but it's not a worth it. What is that? I mean, at the same time, we are going to based off of what we role.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

Camion to address a problem with the community. Vivienda is a challenge, a retail. And we see the camera grand país. During the campaign we have ultimately, we have a plan grande for refinery. Demolish refinery and use area to be married for mega yat. And we have a cruise of Paris, and the rest of the area to create Vienna. And we create by trending for digital currency. Exactly. Of Cash App. Blockchain. So we have to include the program of participant to be more innovative. So we have contention to 13, a plan to buy 13, a vision. So we will work in Parliament and fraction in future. And what courage to it is resistance. We have resistance in the Bank Central. No, the Parliament has no fraction of the future. But we have the form of political future. It has dimension no. It's a political antiquity, insultable, ataquable. There are simple details in political. We have a debate about the thing that we are doing. During the reunion, what we critically, but we have investigation of the vacuum. Being investigated, and as a matter of fact, our Minister has entered and melding that we have to have irregularity, and we have the Ministry, and we have clear investigation. But argument, there are debate, we have to do the things that we debating in this moment is. So we have a candidate, a person, the contention is what we bring to the table. And so we have political debate contention to person. And so we have experienced Parliament, lamentably debate person, instead of contention.

SPEAKER_03 15:09

But if we stop now, we have guys, why are we still doing it?

SPEAKER_01 15:18

Charles, we have the other band in 2013. So if we compare a nice in 2003, we have esperancy and manner that we decided, I'm not going to camp.

SPEAKER_03 15:40

But we don't care, we don't need a nivel, but we have to grandma, we pass 30k.

SPEAKER_01 15:55

Like, I think we can keep what is wrong with you, but we nankopia, or debate public obviously, obviously strategize. No, we try to reunion public, we have an open bar forget, to assist the reunion. But we can school and debate in the moment. No, there's a debate to public band, we have to escucha the opposition, it's coalition, which is sustainable, and defending an argument. So we have PPC, future, and finally, we couldn't do that.

SPEAKER_03 17:12

But we have 2003, we have to do that. We don't have time for that.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

It is a man of debate. No, it's 18 hours. Don't piss me off. No, I'm not going to be able to do that. No, you can't do that. But in the moment, we have to pay attention to the social media of television.

SPEAKER_03 19:00

How long he did two?

SPEAKER_01 19:09

Other must.

SPEAKER_03 19:57

No, but iPhone is delante. No, they're coming down.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

Don't do that. No, but we think we have a manner of debate outdated. We'll have interpellation with manner. But we debate personal arguments. Correct.

SPEAKER_03 20:30

But the part of the laying with that could be part of the elay.

SPEAKER_01 20:37

No, it is part of the debate. And so it's the word adapter and debate interactive. But you say interact and forth. Back and forth. For example, in Parliament, 20 minutes in the tender, 10 minutes, second, and contestable this week 5 hours.

unknown 21:01

No.

SPEAKER_01 21:04

5 hours, that's some bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 21:11

See, it's just like a political strategy. But mention like the podcast, but like the batik kuandre. Mesa, go back and forth over the tema. So, grab it full, ponere either YouTube, poneruba, anywhere on the hands or thing, no basically, it was at least in the comment section, I wouldn't be saying live, but you understand what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 21:45

Like that was my thing. I said I'm a PC honestly bang and not spa in basic asaki one on one, bang has to do. Not so pistay actually, it's a city. Yeah, and you said the bachelor's.

SPEAKER_01 22:54

From the lowest level to the highest level.

SPEAKER_03 23:13

You can't micromanage, but you can do it. No, micromanage.

SPEAKER_01 23:17

But it's at least. And continuously abo not responsible. But responsible act. Correct?

SPEAKER_02 23:57

Correct. You wanna say something?

SPEAKER_03 23:59

I was gonna go on. Okay, so we says, hey! So let's talk about over tourism. It's causing furrow. Okay? So you think over tourism, but it's sufficient when minister. I want to hear this.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

But the band is saying holiday, we can add extra, and now it exists in property. So we have to work on the bottom by the secrets can construct. And we have to construct the introduction of irrespective, and don't have to be able to do it. We construct the case of the minister of hotel. And this is the hotel, we understand the both of us. We need to hotel. We construct them and we need to buy the hotel. We have courage, multinationals, court cases, but we have to use the construction of construct.

SPEAKER_03 27:18

Let's be very honest. It's been years that nothing has a report. Legit report that we've been doing.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

So there are two reports of carrying capacity. One that certain area is overcrowded. So we say our money, and other things that we have to come to focus on the tourist affluent. So we discut the destination. And if we put our buy over, we have to try lamentably that regular vacation rentals.

SPEAKER_03 28:16

But we have to pay for it.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

And we have a lot of tourism in Columbia, Brazil, Argentina, and we have big spenders in manner tourists. We have volume, but not in quality, but the graduate 60%, 70% of these campaigns, 4% of the 10 years. In the moment, the hotel challenges, the hotel has obligation tour, manager. If we have carefully, the mercury explorer, in the final day, book the tourists naturally, but the tourists are a contribution to the hotel, restaurant, to contribute and economic 4 mil tourists extra, but the tourists are affluent. So we have dangerous related.

SPEAKER_03 29:53

This year, it's occupancy levels.

Hotels, Revenue Flows, And Labor Conditions

SPEAKER_01 30:00

Even if we analyzing analysis, we have an opportunity to serve the minister of tourism, we see vision and manage that we are resulting that we start. The tourism is the driver of the economy. During the pandemic, we have 20% of GDP, in 5 years we have 71%. We have focus on tourism of quality. We have for the market. It is dependent on the American, but we have a market that we deliver. Deliver not only in candidates, but we deliver the quality of tourists. If the tourist-produced$6 billion in comparison with tourist American, Latin-American and European, and we have a contribution to the tourist-merican who we sent reactors where we are at the world, so we don't have my contribution to recurring tourists of quality and use the instrument in many and the construction hotels. And we have to regulate vacation, we have 6 million different platforms who are totally for the control.

SPEAKER_03 31:49

The only problem is depending on the tourism. 1%, we are contribution. The problem is the numbers beyond the tourism of the plaque of tourism. Where is that money going? Yes, mega service. Yeah, but who causes that? It's your people. They have to just bring people in. Claro.

Taxes, Reform, And Coalition Tradeoffs

SPEAKER_01 33:13

That didn't happen. No, but we will differentiate the opinion. 100%. But I'm going to work with manner, we gotta track data, we gotta track facts. Aruba is perfect. But during 70 years, we have effects that Aruba has a GDP per capita than the Caribe, which we can facilitate concluding a placa distributed. For that placa distributed, the tourism in our car. And we have to have the cost of it in the world. And we are in this period for the campaign. So if we are to import, a company, a shipping company to export and transport, the product for Miami. Now we form for the ports of Miami. We form the ports of Jacksonville. We have competence for companies A. But we have independently of the part of the monopoly. So the shipping cost is fruit, carne, commestibles. There are a product that we have to ship out of the US and gas altitude. And if we have an isla, we will import 80-90% of the goods that we import. And in this period, we have a firm MU with export. And we have a next step. So the next step is a company that has interest and appetite to transport goods out of Jacksonville for Aruba. But it is not faster. But the company is a company that we have to supply ABC. But the company transport out for the American company, we have attractive. And so we have contact the conversation. So we have a monopoly, dictators, drive place, determining the price, and way out. And this is the problem with the wealth, the tourism that we want to distribute management DC is the cost of data that is a problem. And the problem is the report of Banks Central, the Central Bureau of Statistics, the Banks Central Consumer Survey Survey, and the conclusion 88% of the respondents are 6%. So we have to buy inflation with the political. It's a challenge, it's difficult to be able to political cost of being.

SPEAKER_03 36:55

So we have to complain in the day.

SPEAKER_01 37:03

But the reality is a situation fastidious. But we have a pandemic, we have 1 billion. We can pay 1 billion back, and we will pay back in the final day. Lamentably a baby and grants. So we have consequences, impact. But that's the consequence. But it's a fact that we have to have one, we will pay back, or she has plaque, and decision is difficult to govern with consequences, but it's a cause in the same moment that affect the work there's a situation different in the espace financier. No, but we have choice.

SPEAKER_03 38:34

Sorry, I take that back.

SPEAKER_01 38:49

No, but share.

SPEAKER_03 38:50

That to me is the craziest thing. Okay, well, um, me no pay credit sing on business plan and to be pressed. But Mr. Tingung business plan, man, okay, umki di Holanda, no allocate a side in Kinang pa area isaki po produces to Mr. Sang, but it was just a premium yenko, and the business. Okay, nan, no, we do not so extra placa on this we do numbers extra days, extra that poor dunan pa n poste voto nan. Pero for the long haul, so cool, do you know that it's still mask? It's way more than on day day. Like the ning was no mask.

SPEAKER_01 39:39

I've been saying this, I've been saying this. No, but the casual pandemic is not a way out.

SPEAKER_02 39:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:47

But other obligation is much in political business plan, planning, and execution of a project of the hospital. These are the project in the year 2013. And to think of design, there is a planning, you will have a salah. This is a passage of deliberately or not, we have a lobby. No, it's not a good thing.

Diversification Ideas: Cannabis And Banking Barriers

SPEAKER_03 40:32

It's an architect, a company.

SPEAKER_01 40:44

So a company.

SPEAKER_03 40:47

But what is that?

SPEAKER_01 40:50

No. No, a company of Miami. Um, Ariano, no, we said we're the AVP. But if we falte design, planning, etc. If we have operation, we cost. It's a project that we have budget for cost$350 million in the total, expansion, renovation, and building existence. Expansion, we cost$350 million. But we want to pay$1 billion. We construct three hospitals. And so we are a forensic, an investigation. We can't, but we have a good investigation. We have to pay$1 billion for my opinion, it's necessary to have a legit planning, a legit design to evidence and recognition. There are some construction. This is an example that we are accountable, perjudicando and blasting. That's wild. I didn't know about the hospital.

SPEAKER_02 42:34

I mean, I agree, at least we investigate a higher company.

SPEAKER_03 42:42

What was the deal? I like me gusta, huh?

SPEAKER_02 42:50

Again, maybe maybe this is something not smart, but it's not a good thing. But we have consequences that are not going to be a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 43:24

There are a companion who listened to Wix, Francis. It's a companion that constructs 1 hospitals mundially. We interested in the public tender. We have an public tender. Until the project of 13 million, we have to go to public tender. Ariano participated, WIX is a company that was in Hulanda. This is a company francosaurus, we got a public tender. It has a ball. This was a commission that DC company plaque, so fair enough. We have quality experience, we have a scoring sheet. And 8.

SPEAKER_02 44:44

But we just have a link between the connection and the company and connect the dots. And the word to my own.

SPEAKER_03 44:52

Wait, because he looks like he wants to connect the dots. Connect, connect the connect, connect. No, no, no.

Vacation Rentals Wave And Regulatory Bottlenecks

SPEAKER_01 44:58

What can we pass the Swiss? I will enter the banana, which is the project. What the? But we have the manner of the company local acabing the hospital. Because we pagan 1 billion. So we have the fault of the people. And we have a responsible deback, 1 billion. We have a project. So we have ventilation, the hospital, air free, we have double glass, we have an underseach in the hospital. We will pay the hospital 22 años.

unknown 46:04

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_01 46:08

King, specific king. Segum Drop the name. Segumester Benny Wenger and the Swiss Alex Swangler. Segum me, Benito, see. But we can evidence consequence. Consequence is the medical, but consequence financier. And to say lamentable. But the project is award evita.

SPEAKER_03 46:51

Again, if you look at the business, bonus by traha yung deb negative. Like why do y'all keep doing this?

SPEAKER_01 47:07

See a hospital, but top of the line. Five-star hospital maybe okay. Maybe it's worth it. But hospital. So hospital ta umbiyun.

SPEAKER_03 47:19

To response.

SPEAKER_01 47:32

And what the fuck y'all do with that? No, grand party tabaipa hotel.

SPEAKER_03 47:35

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 47:36

Grand party taba is doing the chains and business sacks. This is a menace. We have a problem with watering installation.

SPEAKER_02 48:17

Waste water.

SPEAKER_01 48:20

We have responsability to waste management plan to miss the hand and waste water waste. Correct.

SPEAKER_02 48:33

No, it's the no. It's a noble. Boutique style? I see. There's camber in a couple of things. Super. Like full solar, full of mess, full of grid. Full. I had a hard time finding a place. I was like, holy shit, they savan somewhere that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 49:00

And the same planning, so a wastewater to the second hotel and responsibility, nung guests. So 60% of the guests expenditure and rubber to buy hotel.

SPEAKER_02 49:25

So, this is a forbuild.

SPEAKER_03 49:35

Yeah, you like data.

SPEAKER_01 49:37

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But a ref part of the hotel. Uh-huh. Revenue per available room. Say it revenue, this was an operational cost. Okay. A ref on a rubber repatriation dollar for camber. Pad. Kiko? Total tour. But it's a play. Number chain 50?

SPEAKER_02 50:11

8 million. Padilla. 8 million per luna.

SPEAKER_01 50:19

250, algo. Naturally, we can't do it. Bobo B is 16 million GDP. I mean the day guy. So we have basically.

SPEAKER_03 50:50

I mean, it's modern-day slavery, basically.

Beautification Vs. Infrastructure And Social Priorities

SPEAKER_01 50:55

Pisay, we have a business hotel, and the bisabu kubit. But we have the generate space condition laboral pathono. We can see space.

SPEAKER_03 51:33

But what is the area of gobierno that is cidadano? What are you doing for ARA make sure? And we have like some tax cuts.

SPEAKER_01 51:44

What can we do? We have a tax cut in January, we have$30 million in Aruba, we have espacio extra in which we have during this period. The sector private is content, the hotel is not content. But we have an instrument that we can talk about the car. And we have a problem that we have a tax system to us, we have resistance, we can share direct and indirect. Direct-direct meaning we have a hand, we have a plaque in the lunar, and we have a chunk, and we have to do a little day we talk about it. And so we modernize the tax system. It's complex, but we want to modernize the job. It's a job to go to the minister of finances.

SPEAKER_00 53:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:03

Well, it's continuously what we have. But what we have a junior partner with the Santana political. In the final day, a baby will be in cause of inflation with a way law. But if I don't have the coalition, give and take, you can sustain our initiative.

SPEAKER_03 53:52

So let me ask you this: I'm not a minister and nunca minister. But I was sitting there. No, it's not happening. I don't know. Why is. Comparately, bang focus on tourism. Tourism is a plaque, but it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 54:42

Diversifica.

SPEAKER_03 54:44

Some crazy local beneficiaries.

SPEAKER_02 54:47

Maybe not local, but the ultimate episodes will marijuana. Like by legalizing and making dispensaries for tourismo. At the end of the day, two days, hey, do you know where I can find some weed? There is. And then why not create one, a control dispensary, single different dispensaries in Aruba, evenly spread out Isla, tax a bong, uno butakita to the kayak laced up like um weed, could not a full weed, but then you bring real good product. And the pain of the baby says, holy shit, this is a really good.

SPEAKER_03 55:31

I mean, I mean, I mean the pro pay.

SPEAKER_02 55:42

Like me, mama, my mom is a country who's a like remedies in my wanna pay. I know it has a lot of benefits too. Keep away from the children. Fully agree.

SPEAKER_03 56:05

Colorado State.

SPEAKER_02 56:06

Like the most classic um example. Come on.

SPEAKER_01 56:13

No, it's a generator to hope you play. It is. Obviously, we have a deposition, we can say we have to get a lot of interest of the bank and commercial. But the bank commercial is resistance. And there are so many explorers. Ultify, export, etc. But the bank commercial is not no bank account for any investors, no local, and we have a negotiation if we have a bank account. We can have a pension for the federal legal, ainda we have mentality, we have a bubble of it. So the SA, we have to be single, we have to explain and diversify the economy.

SPEAKER_03 57:33

Why is this down? This one, that basta!

Education, Outcomes, And Red Tape

SPEAKER_02 57:38

But we can explicitly try dispensaries like it's part of the government. But fix school, you have down the mask, but we have to do that.

SPEAKER_01 58:35

So I don't know about four or five people that say like no, it's not careful. It's private investors. It's about it's about controlling, no? It is. It's wild to me.

SPEAKER_03 58:55

That's just what it is. Nobody gives a fuck. Um, minister, don't be on the practice, Minister Daniel. It is. Okay, so we're still on vacation run. We still go wrap up on Jesus. Papiami over the Ezaki. I feel like we have to be able to do it. The vacation went to rave. It was coming on. All of a sudden, real estate agents are popping up. It was the best time to buy a home. Rapport ng asali, hey, this wave is coming, this wave is coming, prepare, like stop Airbnbs knowing a wave coming?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:49

It's a big one. We can do along the way. Direct is the department that we try to be able to use sufficient issue. So what we have sufficiently sufficient in the department of assumption and function in practice, but we have an idea of the SIT.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:27

Carlos, what you need to do.

Final Takeaways: Tourism Quality And Public Health

SPEAKER_01 1:01:30

Carlos Gaiman, in this department, we understand the Minister. We have practical idea we can regulate a sector of vacation rental. But a sector, the Arab Times Association, what is the department of imposters? We have a taxation system, we have tax, which is comfortable with it, we will have a lot of information. But we have Colorado, Amsterdam, Barcelona. So the information is a concept that we have. We have a concept of the world. In my case, the concept of delay 12 and 3 or 3, the concept of the clay. The advice. And we have to say if it is born and all of the care function in practice. So we have 3, 4, 5, clean. Why? Why? So my problem. Why? Because it is bureaucracy, we have problems in our government with tardance and action. We have to move with the hype, we have a paracetude, push, push, but lamentably we have manner, we have patience. But we have frustrated with the tardance that we have. In my case, lamentably 30, more or less. But we talked about the Parliament with Cecilia. Lamentably, but we have to have 2-3 años. And we have 6 años sending the 10 years. If it takes three years, the competence is quite a bit of a good thing. Exactly. I mean, political shark, as political manner, and map and AVP. But the project is problem. Than beautification, then tourism.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:17

Listen. I mean so against beautification. This is why we gusta or you can't be able to do that. I think that's some bullshit. You think it's a waste of money? They love the raw and authenticness. Nunk itatu issue pa nang. Kiko beautification, I wanna see the plates. They were going a beautiful. I don't feel like that was money well spent. Say pa me, pay, say nothing about investments now, but I mean, I disagree.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:09

But so nota inverted in infrastructure, but it's a beautiful acera, Santo, Turkey, Baby Beach, Tenus, Fulfre, Power, Frusso, Bachad, I'm seeing both sides.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:35

I'm going to buy the band, a part of the Piedra La Maz Santo, Dang is the band, like, make it nice. So I see you're both right.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:48

I agree with that. I agree with that. But that part and compared to other extra stuff. There's actual people ting muchanango skull, nana ting nada dikume. But beautification to be the mmuchanangikome woke. Stop. It makes no sense. And not smart investment. Sorry, too. I don't care. Pero I personally feel a mi kug persona kuta actually by send the ku yeda, ding community. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:23

Nah, nah. Nah. No, no, no, no. I agree. Turko biarno, tin kueda inverti in mantention di bo infrastructure, then beautification.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:46

But I mantene algo, orabo tinha placa pi. Bonot we mantene orabo notin placa? That's like the deepest mentality that Rubiano. Now nothing's nothing stin. But just now that they feared the Ianobo. VIP Kaben see who can have you. Like, if that's what I mean. A beautification, it's cute, it's a bong, like in all. I agree, no steer DJ and nota un smart investment. In nota un investment, Hulanda, pressami placa, has bonita. Compara e Hulanda presami placa, a project.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:40

Nota placa pressa. Look, what we say is the placa de presupost. A base of priority of priority of the government. Participation of the government inverter focus, we have a big infrastructure for our tourists, but we'll local the main focus of nós from political respect. In respect of the political part to me, but we are fácil, man, pensac, but placa. We have functionality. It's not functional as well. No, we have instruments and tools that use the base and quality. But the alliance of education is bad.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:55

But I think it's bad for medication and education. We are educational.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:02

Ah, it's contestable. We are salute for quality. There are espace, but we should have the offering general that cost to the world. 1.2 million. It's a system that result and quality comparison and the region, and we have to naturally pressure large, and we can use the work. But in general, generalization, we are going to be able to do that. And we have to do this. And let's be honest, three or four people in the world are Huland. Yep. Hulanda, Hulanda, American, but the system is English. English, bachelor message. But we have a candidate drop-outs. It's alarming. Underball. And so successfully, but the system is not a problem.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:23

But the system is not a problem. No, clearly, the amount of red tape to take it.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:38

So different things. I'm going to tell you about it later.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:47

No, but we have a conversation. So we have a campaign, we modernize and finally political intention of the pace. At the end, we have the meta quality and measure the quality of it. But we have to make the camp. That's really it.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:46

Sam, you got another question for Dangero?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:49

No, not really. I got one, but like I wanted to be the final question. So we don't have much time. But the hospital, tourism, ex-ministering the current Minister Cecilia in Yatras?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:12

Well, I think Cecilia is very important. And the hotel is a pioneer and reduce the candidate of 45 to 40. The hotel is a hotel and liver to pass. So, we can see that bureaucracy that we have to be able to accomplish the pain. And at the salute, we have a project, it is important to atrás of prevention. We will have the Healthy Lifestyle Center to natural person who suffered with obesity, don't we have advisor gratis, lifestyle coaches, dietists, and personal and salute mentality. The program summons exit 8 clients that ajud and self-esteem, we have depressividad and salute mental, self-esteem, and 2-3 million investments. We continue to program waste 70-80% of the community sobrepeso obesity, we have a problem with obesity.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:55

I'm saying it on cameras, we have it on cameras. Anybody else can be cooking cookie? You know where it came first, okay? But it's a conversation over those topics in no buy.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:35

That's your job.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:45

The ultimate goal here is pa unification bringing out the unification, and it be like a third person, like, yo, chill the fuck out. Like, mehora, Airbnb, like this one, find the motherfucking ground and let's work together.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:04

At the end of the day, we have differentiation fundamental, but sample.

unknown 1:18:17

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:19

Anyways, a fourth, a fifth time like that. Next time we can list the who knows. Who knows? Anyways, man, um thank you about you and back all sea man. Peace. Yo. Thank you.