Wendrick Cecilia: diversification, labor shortages & service quality gaps | EP 222

We sit down with Aruba’s young minister for tourism and transport to map a smarter path forward. We talk diversification, service standards, wages, airport upgrades, and how to keep locals winning as the island attracts new markets and niche events.

• tourism’s share of GDP and labor
• concentration in North America and market risk
• diversification into Latin America, sports, and esports
• service quality gaps and luxury training needs
• tipping, minimum wage, and fair compensation
• labor shortages, brain drain, and student debt
• public-private pathways for career growth
• vacation rentals compliance and tax fairness
• airport expansion, preclearance flow, and partnerships
• capacity, low season balance, and neighborhood impact

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Transcript

Cold Open And Hosts’ Banter

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Disculpa, pero declaration as hini. Sorry, wara.

SPEAKER_05 0:04

Pero what betref employee nang kuta actually deal ku i nanki direct of what you think isaki not on yung secreting a fine bajji.

SPEAKER_04 0:27

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Everybody keeps saying it. Hey yo, what's up? I'll like you.

SPEAKER_04 1:04

Guys, welcome back to the ABC Island Fairy Podcast. You already know No Filtering Paradise, a show about anything. What's that?

SPEAKER_05 1:10

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SPEAKER_04 1:12

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SPEAKER_05 1:24

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SPEAKER_01 1:42

Thank you. Thank you. No, thank you for having me. I'm pleasure. Now, fast forward, Minister, Minister, representing the community. Agradecere to message for the community. And we have a moment.

Meet The Young Minister And His Mandate

SPEAKER_04 2:41

100%. Wrap it up. Wrap it up. I had the same thing. So you say that. Let's go. All right. Um is the short? Um, okay, so let's come first off.

SPEAKER_01 3:23

Let's just start with it. Um, different. It's a campaign lifestyle, routine of data. It's a executive. It's a mechanism. Emotionality, it's a retail. Social practical existence. It's a privilege, it's a calling. And the moment we accept the calling, but we accept the social and existence and the community and the same. But I'm happy, enjoying what I do, content, a privilege, and making the best out of it.

SPEAKER_04 4:34

As you said.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

Sorry, I was about to ask. Representando the Kingdom of the Netherlands. And to the Prime Minister Schofield, the Premier Minister di Hulanda, the Prime Minister Corsair, big pieces, the Premier Minister St. Martin, Marcelina, and high-level week in the United Nations, Voice of the Youth. So the youngest minister, it's a strong story. Update. It's a unique moment. Hey, custom profiles, minister who young dynamic, engage, nanta interessante. Nanka wak ko Aruba ta send boom. Nanta moviendo in direction the custom moderne, innovative, dynamic, giving a voice in a newer generation, international admirable United Nations, the Embassy Hollandesi, different partners conversation.

SPEAKER_05 6:24

Like on a personal level, the political side, but on a personal level, like a seen. But that also comes with it's a lot of pressure, territory.

Pressure, Politics, And Public Expectations

SPEAKER_01 6:58

It's real politics. And if you have no succeed, we can manage controversial parties that manage character and falsity. So this time in political people and not beneficial, we can use it. But we have a pressure, it is a responsibility, the tourism, and transport, tourism and 20% of our GDP is a responsibility, it's grand. But the responsibility at normal. Everybody keeps saying, Oh probably. We have an officer, we have a trajectory. We have a trajectory to decision in politics. Ethica, discipline, we are attention, we are serious, we need to limit performance and mandatari. It is recognition, there is leader, party personal, bring people to the table, and the main objective is a goal to solution.

SPEAKER_04 10:30

But we walk under one.

SPEAKER_01 11:15

We are content of teamwork, and backup of my colleague.

SPEAKER_04 12:24

Sorry, to be honest, it still happens till this day.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

Excited, first time in Parliament. But this realize okay, I'm buying it. We can do that. We're going to back, and we think we have scandalo, fraud, and corruption. But we realize the problem.

SPEAKER_04 13:50

That's exactly what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

No, but straight true to yourself, a visa book.

SPEAKER_05 14:19

It's a challenge, but the way I would have just walked thing and it's a good thing. But on the screen, everybody on Twitter, meetup by cover who you can.

Tourism’s Weight In Aruba’s Economy

SPEAKER_01 15:00

I'm not a problem because the Parliament is a touch base. Um, I'm not personal. No, clearly, opposition, the final day we porta rival political, pero nos aliado nan democratic, of supposed to think of meta message elevates by the land.

SPEAKER_03 15:23

I agree.

SPEAKER_05 15:38

So let me ask you this. But nothing on problem. So I say the trans the transition ku a sa hip eta tourismo, does the man, hey, wa sa dangi, bang sinturata huntu, please konta me the tour projectaba. Konta mi the um you're there for like seven and a half years. Kiko ta no strong point ku Hulanda. Kiko Hulanda based on the direction, but by the way, of tech test is a very good thing. Did you see the get like clear hand over the A?

SPEAKER_01 16:19

For the moment, but the committee transpasso, overdraft. Ain't the sint, but he is a show informal, but overdraft documents, but we have to keep the policy ultimate along the way, but we're going to find out.

SPEAKER_05 16:47

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 16:48

But it's polarization that we're going to be. Habri, sincere, transparent. But we can go pronto. But we have a video that I'm posting. But the grade occupation. Discussion is the opium best of declaration asini. A grade occupation alarmant, nothing. Ella simplemente available. The mass camera is available, automatically it will drop a tick. But ADR hotel is cool. Spending more tariff subi, it is a very good thing. So we have higher quality of tourism, but we compare the entrance of tourism of tourism. If we compare ADR Aya Pasas is another aspect, short tourism to affect the occupation, but we're also alarming. But we are in America, we depend exclusively about a single market. Latin America, Argentina, Brazil, Peru, Colombia, three months in Bogota, the officer of tourism in Colombia. Brazil has Brazil, expanding the world. By the Latin American market, tourism, conversation with partners, opportunity, trying to air and diversification, opportunities. That's your job. By conversation with stakeholders, the target, if there are analysis, Argentina and Brazil. Are they spenders though? Look at the same receiver, but the market in North America is strong, American, we have lost, yes, yes. Argentina is conservative, but the market diversifyers are not going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05 20:30

Sorry, but as a person ku atra dang ding hotel in that industry, how much like bo sa mm-questan ng pa what betref empleada ng ku ta actually deal ku ihan ng ki direct or bo sa sang kwestin ng mas pa a companya ng mas? Yes. Because a company yet maybe saw turkosta bong, nan ta ganando sigur sigur. But empleada ng ku actually deal ku ihan ng ki on a face-to-face basis. Tama na wayji, hind ng kita na wear ki ji. As ng ki kangananga gasta maybe like. But different terms, cause they they can pay for the room, but don't mean that they tip or don't mean that they where it matters because so now it's a typical issue, not a spending issue.

SPEAKER_04 21:13

Like, for example, they maybe they maybe they'll end up spending the same as an American, but not a tip. Americano, it's uh they don't go through the tipping. Yeah. So I don't understand because I've also worked as a bartender for many years.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Correct. But the ting government shut down, but it's ta important.

SPEAKER_05 22:01

Guys, wara, sorry, I'm not black by niggas debativato. Sorry, mama. Sorry, mama, okay. So wara. By the way. There are tipping industries. Swave hotel, abu a ghana, abu ti ku just pagami mi shit of taking kwanta eta pa pa aura. Kumila mara pagami peanuts, and to siki ku bombi unit kuwa um gana kune. The hotel is winning, yes, if they spend somewhere else.

SPEAKER_04 22:45

So, then I agree with you, but so it's a base the local company nang restaurant ng, you know so much kikwe emple. Then we can have the conversation about okay, company, okay, bumpagan emplear na mass because it's not getting compensated because these kind of tourists are.

SPEAKER_05 23:06

Yeah, but that's not happening. And again, who's working in these industries? It's the Aruban people. So, how are the Aruban people not benefiting and winning off of all of this merit?

SPEAKER_04 23:15

Yeah. It's got a way to make the multicultural island, but the Filipino, Venezuela, Colombian, I don't understand. And they are the ones working there. They were I work with them. These are my colleagues, I know.

SPEAKER_05 23:25

I get you, I get you. So I agree. I agree. Kung Bohne ng mes notab beneficiando iganando that pa me nota make sense.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

The tourism receipt local ku nanda gas at the bus the carti. Lokalko nanta gasa cash, but it's a very important thing. But lokalko sino receipt, indication ngtaku, nanta keda largo, a base de tourism receipt of tourism credit, kombu kayami, ananda gas tango mas sa ding restaurant, uh, say that ding camera nan di hotel. Un costuno stinkji, isaki nota ng secreto no sa papri budgeting campagna, awo a trickle-down effect. A benefits employees.

SPEAKER_04 24:18

Okay, wada, I'm so sorry. No, I'm gonna say this part.

SPEAKER_05 24:27

This has just been going. This is the intro. This has just been going. Okay, pero wa ki ku abota minister tourismo, right? And we all know ku tourismo ta undi ekwas ng más important. Bono bono ta sinti ku awoki would be the perfect time pa diversify the type of um tourism kunosar recibi. In no just tourismo di aangi hienta being pasabong na aruba and tourisa ki ng. Pero masko mane ung mane samba to bring up like bringing it with esports or bringing it with like a whole different type of tourism ku er to keda nanda bing ku meta piro nata by gasta alum some to this activity, this is going on, bam bam, bam, okay, we have another one, bam.

SPEAKER_04 25:22

Before in the back, since you touched the topic, esports, the mass mana, and young, but no that by a bow. This is the next kid, like, oh shit, I'm Aruba, my favorite player who's not going to be able to be guys, we have to beat Aruba, we have to be able to do it, we have to compete. So it's a very good thing to tap in.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

This is the principal policy. So we have a mix of markets, we have 80% of North America, we have 5% of Latin America, and the rest of the 5. We can diversificate the mercado.

SPEAKER_05 26:13

Okay, the real people with the money, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

Exactly. Because we have poor. Manifestation. We can see diversification, we have Columbia, we have emirates the market and diversification and create market shares and know. And we will see the tourism, the profiling tourism, we have to do this. We have specific segments. Yes. For example, sports tourism is a concept, we have a beach tennis, but we have mil participants that are, etc. And there are specific events. If we have a trend of tourism, we canurism, so we make a profil. It's a repeat guest, and we're going to repeat the reason. It's avancing, 50, 60.

SPEAKER_04 27:37

30-year-olds, 25-year-olds.

Latin America Opportunities And Spend Patterns

SPEAKER_01 27:53

Piensa riba concierto nan, pensa riba sporting events ng. To the same ng ta part cardinal di ung policy shift kuni momento na aki.

SPEAKER_05 28:03

Also keep in mind, those same travelers nang no ker ke the hotel tampoko. Yeah. Say the difference to walk time, because it hopi hands. Okay, ting tantel, Miami, ting tantel, the mesum break. Because to hopi ta chains, yung nota many hotel di private, pero nothing else, hotel di Aruba does bank. Not the hotels, chains ku ting na Amerika. Nangtaba inting shon di anki by kire ng. No, eh, waki Airbnb ki, iting a barrio, ah, ki, bo kana by supermercado, ting sa ki sa, kisa.

SPEAKER_04 28:42

Nameri, po 40 dollar, bung kaze, tries camera, ku pool. But at the end of the day, it's the it's the tourist that decides kikar.

SPEAKER_05 28:52

There are people that are not. But it's the way, of course. No, you have hotel people. I'm gonna hotel, but the problem, ta hotel ng taught the ultimate election, option. Ki men nada no parabira algo, turko, not no ta aligned ku. So everybody is working on their own thing, panang mes. I agree. No shade hotels, hey. I don't go to the hotels, I don't give a fuck.

Tipping, Wages, And Who Really Benefits

SPEAKER_01 29:32

That's the Airbnbs, baby. Make noise. But generally tourism, it's important. Also, it's important and dependent by the economy. 40% of the employees create directly or indirectly relatable tourism, but 30% of business are registrant directly and indirectly connected with tourism. We are looking at different activities, we are. For example, transport meeting local app, airport authority with the aeroport. The labor is different, it's different, it's social, but we are relating to specific to labor and tourism. The salary minimum per adapter is creating benefit, but we have the sector of hospitality, we have 40 hours and benefit, we have to sector tourism, we have 45 or 46, we have a salary, we have 40. We introduced the salary minimum, we have to do it. But this sector is necessary, but we can see the salary, there's a lot of important sectors of tourism and laboral, economic, familiar, and social. For example, different situations, the doctor, specialist, sibu mistake along or attendee kuboyunang, of situation inesperato sura nang liber pa si dedica, si boy to praktika deporte saavre, bo hai un ordinwaki co maintense, to nikohando, co pago, but liber dedica, na vida social, nabo familiar, na comunitario. We're connected to tourism, but labor employee in the sector protection. We have protection. But we're laboral respectable. Attention, motive haiya ku imple syndicku, hey, we direction viola, we direction ngword respect, lokalkura, to lokal kuona, amorty, it's function aki nosta infokanda hobby party arbit inspection. But so the persona nanku tinga voluntat ku care hasitowo, but tinha tools ng necessary. Nossa base to provide ng tools, basic garantiesa ku nata sustain legal, nossa garantisa kuha training ng. Tambai algo importante, nossa mandabuska di Hulanda, inspection laboral di Hulanda pa bini akinang konjuntami inspection laboral has full process de evaluation being recommendation. Recommendation n mummento na ki nossa implementando nang, pa' garantiza ko dos impresa nang, bonego, enterprises laboral, ko team meta proteiabo empleado. Algo tambios basic momentos tackle aspect of AGO. Agen Bureau, ng person ngek punta de precopation ko a yeah, ounu to introduce moratorium agent bureau, saki tama algun notebook, d'indiana aki como part of the policy introduci, but supervision ho bi most strict agent bureau nan ta function and trata nos.

SPEAKER_05 35:40

So, we those pregunta. Tell me. Over Asian Bureau ng, I think most important ko aroba ta drop the ball mash durum ta ku nos ta wak ko service ta ungos. Pero great customer service and luxury customer service ta those different, completely very different.

SPEAKER_02 36:05

Definitely.

SPEAKER_05 36:05

Una base si bota basand ko bosta catering patres tourista di kalitate ki nang, nang konse luxury service. K man si bo nota, si agent bruna base trainang hindi ba un nivel di luxury na empleada na aki kun being off bye, nging valor pa luxury field ng. Because ng no mr type ng. They need people who saw a service, pay attention to detail. That's one of them I feel like Agent Burona, Mr. Mr. Tribe, so you could help them with that.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

So, at the end of the way, a tourism higher quality, like expectations service. Yep. Aruba ta rekonosi it distinguished for two other pays nan Karibe, but hospitality service, it was service-minded, nos amigable, nos service, we take care of guests, tourists, guests, consideran part of family. Nanda expectations, we have quatro factors who have aruba difference. One we have hospitality, those are the things that we have to do. No, no, no, absolutely. But we're going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05 38:24

That would be a good one.

SPEAKER_01 38:27

We'll do. We'll do it. But we're going to do the bushiri hotel, no, modern buttons are a factor.

SPEAKER_04 38:42

But difficult. At the end of the day, student loans. So high mass chefs, waiters, whatever you want to call it. You understand what I'm trying to say? Like, you want to create more workers, but what if like I get paid way more if I go to Holland or I go to the States or I go somewhere else? When I'm finished studying, because I have to pay all these loans back. And Aruba isn't cheap. So it's kind of like the game. But then it also has to like.

SPEAKER_05 39:32

Maybe.

SPEAKER_04 39:40

Maybe it's a cheaper school, like hey, same level as Ulanda or Peruba.

Service Quality, Training, And Luxury Standards

SPEAKER_01 39:50

But the commission for the development, pool attendant, nivel the liderasco, but in turn. But salario. Lairwork traject facility, about the other type of salary, a form of moments along the way, we can crazy to position managers, but important that we attract professionals and we've been back to the world. We have to waiver, we have a packet of incentives. But hobby structure is structure, but professional, but we see the apparatus governmental. And we think across the board private sector. Good so much that we think we have a partnership in the government, in the private sector, stimulus.

SPEAKER_04 41:29

I might be wrong, guys. So we will take the must towards specialists. So we have to apply students. Because we have a hospital, we have a specialist in cardiovascular.

SPEAKER_05 42:15

So we are going to be able to do that. So mention our worry over the 3D or 4D pillars, but aspect I feel like we pay attention to it, hope it's a good thing. This authentic service ko aroba ta brinda antes is not the truth anymore. Hopi say a cambia in a part of it might be ku we talked about this recently, over the legalizing hindrang kuta being.

SPEAKER_01 42:51

But we have to do that.

SPEAKER_05 42:53

Nah, I'm not saying that. These people are also taking touring hotel ku turisa kinang. Pero nangting kubringa a service. At some level, but also genuinely. Correct. And that's what Aruba used to be like.

SPEAKER_01 43:39

San Juan, San Pedro.

SPEAKER_04 43:46

Cecilia.

SPEAKER_05 43:48

See, elabisa no seriously. Nah, see, nang. I mean pasoba no say such a big melting pot. We forgot to introduce a party. But you can get it.

SPEAKER_00 44:19

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 44:33

Hey, honestly, I'm just looking forward to that.

SPEAKER_05 44:46

It's gonna be a crazy year. It's gonna be a crazy thing.

SPEAKER_01 45:09

But we have a part of integration. So we have immigration, integration, yep. Integration. Integra d'en culture, it's a lot of things. Different trajecto ng, for example, the trajectory overseeers are the Arab Excellence Foundation. But different aspects.

SPEAKER_05 45:45

But this is crazy because the XST. What does a kabin legalize tanto hand in over 6,000 of the kiko? That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 46:02

Like during the fault base of the code, although again, Admar brought up a good point.

SPEAKER_04 46:13

And then interview Admark. And we'll put checkbox obligatory niveau de papi. There's advice service lessons.

SPEAKER_05 47:10

Yeah, but she came in a different way. We're talking about like the people that are illegal and then legal. They don't have the means to go maybe do that.

SPEAKER_04 47:17

My pony put in the effort to learn.

SPEAKER_05 47:19

I know, but that's what I'm trying to say. There's people that might want to have the effort to learn, pero it should have been a requirement to get to get a warm-up and then hey Pop, you're now officially a legal citizen of Aruba, but it's a good way to say that.

SPEAKER_04 47:39

Enforce it.

SPEAKER_05 47:50

I fact so that. Okay, mi pregunta enkilok pa bota ta. Kong byha si awoki komo labor. Because we see a shortage in tur aspecto, pero hindajis legit no kier traha. Like in no taku ng no purhaya trabo, ting trabo, nan. Ng like nanta legit p di traha, bo sana ting trabo pabo, no da yama hand like si gurta un ku ta yaama, like hey, wey, kwaapara, ey, mitiun traba, ey wa handajis no kier traha. So it's nice kubuke at to re auto if you're doing all of this and to nothing uh hand by trade department. What's the point? So it's planned paasi pa' attray.

SPEAKER_01 48:49

It's a problem that skarsidad laboral saying different sectors with representants of conversation with representants and employers and resulta laboral. It's sake who consider more important to focus on the mindset switch, we can see valor and beneficie. Not simply the financial, but the social. It's fundamental, for example, network, we will have a contribution to the economy, we will pay it, but the nuclear social. But in the moment, sufficient personal vacatures, and vacatures salary, beneficial, but the sector private attractive possible motivator, enterprises, attractive nan, group, story personal, experience group who includes the mercury laboral. So, for example, we have to come, 60 years.

SPEAKER_04 51:08

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 51:08

So, we have a lot inclusive participant. Specifically, we motivate and use and give a person who is a couple of trouble. It is a pleasure, a pleasure that is popular, it's a very important thing. For example, not qualification ng, for example, patron CV, no pur yega na education, and single, persona akin kupuna. It's not a solution, but yuda. But we solution, but different action ngortuma, fortification job center, lokalko ta other aspect majority demand for the sector hotelier, for the tourism. Our single by papa is a perception ta sector minimum wage sector. And we distance for this sacks. Okay, we have a trading industry, un living wage, diario, it is spacious social. So you don't motivated the problem. But it could be a partnership public and private ko juntamente pa nos stack.

SPEAKER_05 53:56

But distance completely. Could it be kuta hindi industry? And the area says young professionals and the Hulanda messages, not studio equipment. And to say, nota ni available because the main thing sample.

Labor Shortages And Mindset Shift

SPEAKER_01 54:25

Like what? And the forecasting model akita by forecast ng Laboral Bon Economic. Okay, akising aya, kik jobs ng ku probably. And Iinda in note. Bo sa, I'm DJ, but is the algo kuno? Yes, no.

SPEAKER_05 54:50

I cannot remember with the cordon sa si vota pa king. And topikung persona, and to ng nga mention over the trahando un list of quick jobs that we think uh mistake in the next five to ten years.

SPEAKER_01 55:02

And also making concrete steps put in a forecasting model. That's difficult. But experience in the tour sector, not so many sectors in tourism, but the accountants, technicians, engineers, ICT, but we can complain to or not, nothing new here.

SPEAKER_05 56:01

Well then what the fuck? Let's go, kinata wordando. What the fuck is wrong with these people? I'm sorry, Pamiko, because just not makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 56:27

No, but lo que indica is que si is laboral de different form.

SPEAKER_04 56:39

Yeah. Pampe?

SPEAKER_01 56:40

Let's go.

SPEAKER_04 56:55

Um ex-minister di tourism. Vacation rentals, vacation rentals, guarantee.

SPEAKER_00 57:24

Okay, but anyhow, we got this.

SPEAKER_01 57:50

Percur is a threshold of the salary, America purchasing power. Those infocation new markets, we're infocus in America, exploring the Middle East. We compare a higher value, we have revenue tourism, it is a very important thing. Acompany procedure of compliance fiscal, but different incentives external, for example, investment international capital, we can also activity and short vacation rentals.

SPEAKER_04 59:37

So, we have to do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:00

Monitoring the process, but it's not a problem. But what we have estimate millions. We have to guarantee activity, we're going to put the fiscal. Because this is attention, it is problematic. That's facts, though.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:43

Say this reports were reports were given.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:47

It's coming. It's coming. It's exponential by 40 months. Okay.

unknown 1:01:33

Okay.

Forecasting Future Jobs And Skills

SPEAKER_01 1:01:33

Local from the start. Or we can simply eliminate a discussion of the salary, it's a CEO. Compare the CEO anterior, but the thing is, CEO could be anterior, including the ex-minister, ex-minister Otto, to compare the salary, and the CEO, we can use fruit of the negotiation that we're in group. The aeroport is a phase of expansion, a project of gateway 2030 to the project, and important. We have a project AAA Aeroport, Finances, and Recurses Financial to financial project. The REST has important to coordinate the project, but the presentation to confiance of the understanding of the aeroport of financial project. So we have a role important in the project. The moment we assume responsibility is a dispute, a confrontation, and problems with the Minister Anterior and the Group. And the moment we have wrap it up, we have to do it. It's a cooperation strategic with partner international because the Royals Group to manage the aeroports and GFK. Big airports. Australia, South Korea. No, they're huge.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:38

It's a huge also management.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:42

It's like you've got oh, you're you're covered by Royal School Group.

Vacation Rentals, Compliance, And Revenue

SPEAKER_01 1:04:48

But Landerson is a plaque. Because the precaution of landers are a school group. Yes, we're going to be able to think about the government, and discussion, CO local, CO local. Because we have an aeropuerto professionals, hobby capacity, hobby equipa, hobby, ko nos care international experience not solamente, pero pa nos exportat internationalement, hobby capacity. And part of the Ralph Scale Group was intentional by investing opportunities. And also bringing it and LT to limit the salary and the republic. One is Minister Weaver, the Minister of Decision revisit and revisit in totality. But we have a limit function of public professionals and professional caliber, we interest the position of literature in different entities, we will revisit the moment that we revision claw. Local bonum, we are number no CEO local in the banda CEO who approved. Correct, we have CEO, we have Statut Director. We are international experience international, who awarded the basis of expertise in the part of the construction, the part of the operational, in which the aeroport of process of expansion, the transition for the project in gateway 2030. And we are pretty much in the moment that we have revision of the LD Cab, we are in the history of the CEO local, which we have the context local, and we can international professional context local that we elevated the aeroport. Okay, but the ultimate issue. The Minister of Transport, I don't know how instruction, the LT or the revisa shareholder could team a competence, CEO local. Got it. You gotta follow up with that?

SPEAKER_05 1:09:02

I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean does, but it is what it is.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:08

I mean, at some point that international one can step down entirely. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:12

Yeah, no, but that's that's where I was gonna lead to with a woki, the ball to court. Clearly, this was a non-negotiable pa skip hole group. Hey, nos thing ku has yo, kin no tabay. Alright, it's already there. Awoki, the ball is in our court, pa nos make sure kunasta taking on as much benefits as for the persona akin ku nosta milk ng from their knowledge. Hey, but some things, some people pa shadow ng or whatever exactly. As much information and knowledge kunos, monthly trainings, pa umerto on skip level, kuri sa ki nanku, kost ng ku ngadrecha and all these good stuff. If we're our people na sinyang din nang nang nivel, by all means akwantum mi yong pagi hamber has yeah. Paso er not hindi nanom beneficia tambo for the ideal A.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:08

Trickle down.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:08

While pagando e peru si it by number siye on to a hold up.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:15

Yeah, like okay. But sincerity, number local, but we see the dinamica international experience international, we have a person who has amplified and different aeropers international number experience ample. It's part of the transition and expansion of the aeroport. We utilized experience and expertise for all these projects that we have fast track, but we can see the local, we aggregate a context, we can say culture, we can say operations, we can match the aeroport is. But experience, experience.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:42

See, but um it's beneficial. Not financial, but it's just in general. Plus, talk by being that's mass avionant, however you want to call them. Bang ta hobby stereo. The same problem kun nos tinku are the beach nan ta overflooded, restaurant nanta overpriced, no like all of these things, it's still but mass hien the pa binga thing. Maybe it's awati mass pas, but I pasali here, mass li hai pa by in and out, but it's still bringing mass hair at the same time. I will say this to be the devil's advocate.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:31

Sorry, but maybe they wanna bring more people, but now maybe low season, it's a kinda like balancing. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:41

How are you gonna talk about the traveling? So this is CBP. CBP Goba Entry? No, no, CBP, a preclearance. Uh-huh. Koba tahasi, uh, US Customs, Immigration, akinangmis.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:59

Correct.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:07

But space pa nang, but flow on aggravable, it's flowing. To the project. Pasa coffee.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:33

Jesus.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:35

Munya no fiat. Okay, bam wrap this up. All right. Um, Minister. Minister Cecilia, sorry. Well, I give the kita must formal. Whatever you want to call.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:06

Still a minister, though. Like, sorry, Minister Cecilia. You better freaking call me Minister.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:23

Any mines I have like atras? Anything you want to say for?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:27

No, thank you. Thank you for the opportunity. So we consider a privilege. Thank you pa helping at the table. Thank you. 100%.

Airport Expansion, Leadership, And Partnerships

SPEAKER_04 1:16:11

I will make this one last point. Sorry. Whatever thing in the moment, it's topic. Airbnbs. Oh shit, now actually collaborate. I like it. So since you can say, I got you on camera. Alright, Manson, below, and back with Simang. Peace.