From Island Roots To Dutch Politics: Why Voting Matters For ABC Students | EP 227

We sit with a Den Haag candidate from the ABC Islands to unpack culture shock, language gaps, internships, housing, and why representation for Caribbean students in the Netherlands changes real outcomes. Practical fixes, not slogans, drive the talk: mentors, data, and fair rules.

• Dutch punctuality and directness contrasted with island norms
• Inequality in student support and missing mentors
• Pre-departure prep for banking, taxes, and stages
• Bilingual education benefits and limits of English-only degrees
• Discrimination reporting for internships and enforcement
• Housing stress, speculation, and fair rules for supply
• Non-voters, cynicism, and why turnout matters
• Data-led outreach, focus groups, and short-form updates
• Balancing opportunity with personal responsibility

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Transcript

New Radio Announcement And Warm-Up

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Listen, I know the episode is about to start, but I just gotta tell you this. We are now going to be on the radio. XFM 102.7 FM. Babies, no filter is about to take over. So your Saturday mornings are about to be even better. Okay, enjoy the show now. Are we friends or not? Okay, but you said this and this. Like, you can't do it.

SPEAKER_02 0:54

At the end of the day, it's like anti invasion pa reino. After that, go figure it out.

SPEAKER_03 1:19

Yo, what's up?

SPEAKER_02 1:21

Guys, welcome back to the ABC Islands Fair Podcast, No Filter in Paradise, a show about anything and everything between two friends. One is straight and the other. Super duper black and gay babies. Alright, so I know we kind of um round off a political episode in December, but we're the extra course. Um, Zain De Ponte.

SPEAKER_01 1:49

Welcome to the show. Hey, thank you for the opportunity to travel. Happy to be here. Perfect. Let's get it.

SPEAKER_02 2:10

Let's get it. That was a very political intro. But if we finish the show, we'll go with it. Full chill, full relaxed. If it's political answers, you already know we cut you off like 8 00. Okay. So per me can you see details.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Papimento, but switch.

SPEAKER_02 2:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

Okay. Perfect.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

So background here. We're going to form out of the particular information.

Life Lessons From Dutch Culture

SPEAKER_01 2:41

Correct. I'm going to see. I'm going to study Hulanda. We have your aftergrounding best. I study at Erasmus University in Rotterdam. And we're trying to Minister for Binlandse Zaken and Konikks Relations of 2019. So we are professional. And this student political Hollands are members of D66. And we organized events show up to a congress, a local activity, and we used a particular zomer. We gusta politics, we are obsessed with politics. We have a white participant for the local, and I decided I'm gonna run as a candidate, and I'm a little realista, another way to be directly electable. But I'm gonna convince me workers' stems, we're gonna activated tour e antianna and Araubian and Denhaj. And that's also why I'm running. And so we didn't vote last moment. So Hulanda is 10% of 60-80 mil Arubian Kantian in Hulanda.

SPEAKER_02 4:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

Tour ayah mil seising students that are six is Hulanda. And so the students who moved earlier, young professionals, but graduate seizure. Correct. Okay. For different reasons. And if you don't vote, you're not represented. Yeah. No, what we're saying. No, it's correct. So this did the political pa contribui. And to particularly Arubian ko antiano nang, and to represent the manner who not passed. So I wanna be the first one. I wanna be the first one.

SPEAKER_03 5:21

Look at you. No, you wanna be the first one, you wanna be the first one.

SPEAKER_02 5:25

But then we saw the other party.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

We see John Lyrdam, the Partide of the Arbeit, the Twitter cameras, we have Hara Van Dijk, the day 66, it's roots and Aruba.

SPEAKER_03 6:00

No, let's get it.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

Well, like we have obviously political. It's not like the nicest thing, especially because I'm like, why do you want to get or putting yourself to this situation?

SPEAKER_01 6:24

It's a little nervous. I'm putting myself out there, we're kriticables, and we want to say this standpoint incorrect or lo que sea. But all interessante in politica is political organizar nossa socied, nosit, and we are, and we can use for yuda and you need to. We can say motivo studio, and study many pace, combat and how does politics work. And so we can study we're the Hollands como ambtenar, and so I'll walk into the campaign as a candidate for the gemeenterat. But sorry, can you put the 19th? What do you think about the 28 list? No, yeah, but I say this to the participant who we have. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 8:28

So let me ask you this like just step back on Tiki D politics before we go ham, I think. But by 40 around, and we have to say, oh wow.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

There are various punctuality to important in the Hulanda. Beyond time, yeah. Beyond time, punctuality. We have to be talking about 50 years 5 or 5, but consider a form of respect. Correct. But no niceties. People are direct. Bambi Shark, we're invited to compromise a vibe of the great, now, no poor, and invitation we're going to last. No, we're not going to do it. Are we friends or not? Punctuality.

SPEAKER_03 9:58

It's true. Which is, but there are good points. Like really good points. But just waku on the nan where you come back na Isla, but the money paloko ji, like y'all are extremely disrespectful.

SPEAKER_01 10:12

But the gara stress, but vacancy of lo que sea, meeting karda, hey, me the back room me isla, me to purba be saying the time. Hey, please, single of 5.

Hidden Inequalities For ABC Students

SPEAKER_03 10:38

You have extra time. Once you got there, one of the things that we said about inequality. So, what were some inequalities who realized students in the Hulanda di Aruba and the Italians?

SPEAKER_01 10:56

Well, na primewanda problem with pobreza the opportunity. And we had opportunity to study, appliancia play, but if we have background different, we have size is a family with other skin, but we want to try different discrimination discrimination correct. And we have discrimination, or privilegia, or extra, but we have extra system and make the best use of their opportunities. And so we have system of appointment for students. So if you're clear, we have to mentor, and we have a guy, that you're going to have the bank, and students are going to be that you have to go. But the lunar, you're on your own. And so you are a home school of university, but you can figure it out by yourself. And so you can belasting what we're going to do, and we're going to have it, belasting, and so what we have to do, and so if you don't have you, but we have a little bit of a discipline to difficult to finish your studies, it's difficult to have a stage, it's difficult to have a promoter, and we can see a person that has a sustained thing.

Preparing Students Before They Leave

SPEAKER_02 13:29

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SPEAKER_03 13:44

So sorry. So then my question would be Ari, how do you fix this? What is this? What is the solution?

SPEAKER_01 14:00

We have responsibility. We will prepare the issue of conscientizan and conscience that we have a student keuze to come in, and preparation we're going to have an islam. This is gearing to offer, and we have a gemeente in the Hulanda. And so we are also important to give us different gemeentes in a hogs school of universite, and we have an impulse more than hogscholen, universite, or MBO, we have an Arabian and MBO. We're a group that is a baggage national ombudsman, by the way. I saw report in 2020.

SPEAKER_00 15:05

It's a really bad situation.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

I just didn't want to go. Done, like, period. But in different mana pa desarrolabos, you don't have to go, but like, me yuta by erat, me yuta by akin, like. It's our culture.

SPEAKER_03 15:54

What? It falls back na nos cultura. No, but it's standard. Like, it's like, ah, like, you're gonna be a bum.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

Itambi pakore unpoko di um porta bunatior nang of punangus. There could be many reasons. But escape, mika by hulanda, there are good and bad reasons why people leave.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

But then you wanna be prepared at least. If you're gonna do it, at least prepare boom. Correct.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

I think that's that's one of the conversations that I mean, it starts from underball. I pa me and too. Like a superhero or something.

SPEAKER_02 16:57

Superman?

SPEAKER_03 16:57

I'm just saying, pero like kids should be kids, yes. But at what point do we start instilling, like, okay, really, what in life do you want to do? Actually, go and let's okay, but it's a truck driver. Let me show you what truck drivers do. Bing di verdad, let's go into the truck seat and the hard labor. I don't want to do this at all.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

Okay, but we have three dociman, but by internal shadow, and I'm like, fuck this, I don't want to do this. And so slowly.

Aligning Support Across Schools And Cities

SPEAKER_01 17:33

Full aims, I comprehend the amigo, or study race, have a week. Oh, did you? Segunda 2004. Anyway, I want to collect the studio in this by Venezuela and Costa Rica, we're going to have Hulanda.

SPEAKER_03 18:04

Good.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

I support that. That's real. And we have to go to the Hulu. We'll study information, but we're going to have to do it.

SPEAKER_02 18:21

Real life experience is different.

SPEAKER_01 18:22

Correct. But the preparation. So, we have sustain and appointment to Hulanda, Aruba House is the world, but St. Martin House. But we have a role and universiteten, hochscholen, and MBO, and we have to do it.

SPEAKER_02 18:57

Like St. Martin, I was about to have how do you align them?

SPEAKER_03 19:02

Like how do you align them? It's just one thing that you can do until they can probably offer the service.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

They can actually offer that and then see what we are doing, but we have a strategic education alliance, which are a samenwerkings between the Hulanda, Aruba, Carso, and St. Marten and Network and Hogoscholen and Universiteiten, and presta attention to different medias to judge us and isla. And we cost more, and we can a gente. Today are different, there are different social makeup, different. Number of Antioch and Araubian, but we are focused on particularity, the state until we can have a problem with discrimination. I think my idea is my particular time in the 66. But we have a comment for the negotiation, we are international organizations, NGOs, and tour, and to be mentioned to falta de opportunity to study to study. You can also offer more stage players, but if we have to care if you have a negotiation, we have an organization to create more stage play, and there is a cute and background privilegiada, to consider. But then we have one idea that we are 2066 for a meldpunt to experience discrimination for a stage, por ejemplo, and meldpunt various meldingen that we have a negotiation of organization and motivo para a gente, and discrimination. Correct. What's that about?

Language, Bilingual Education And Work Reality

SPEAKER_03 21:42

So I'm a very fair person. So from your end, we know ourselves, you know, studio attitude ng. So kiko boso lo has antiana nanki i rubbiana nan tambeta up to standards to you. But you don't even care for the job of batabay just trate money. So stage how do we make sure isaki ng notaba? If I think about it, see we transition that na aruba ng voorbelt. And we w the bi sand me, okay, have the stage plaque student the afoot, and then I open this, could me amor and okay, sure. And to avoid this, no worries now. Okay. Uh uh, no, no, no, no, no. I don't need them. So it much, nang sack. I don't have to do this back and forth. They know exactly what's required from them, and then you have the movie.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

I think those exemples that we need to put, but persona who has. But complementar also needs to hoch scholar, universities, and MBOs, who are responsability that we are stimular brinding subsidiary and bring extra program and program as proactive para the same is. But we say motivo que stage or accent, we dominar idioma completamente, we have extra, extra curricular, we need to use a nivel stagiar of unbong.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

You know, it's a respectful thing. But we can compromise the university and school in Hulanda, English. So, we have to be able to do it coming and studying English.

SPEAKER_03 24:37

Well, the jobs are not English.

SPEAKER_02 24:39

No, but like it's still like it's a universal language, even right now we're speaking English.

SPEAKER_03 24:43

No, for sure. But that's what you say.

SPEAKER_02 24:45

Honestly, APE Horeka. Like the main thing was like English. So we don't walk in it, I'm going to gusto, that's pretty much it.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

Correct.

SPEAKER_02 24:59

But English, the only main reason they're going to buy Horeka and APE. But back to the actual curriculum de Hollandis, but English.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

I agree, I agree. But I think it's NNN. Test si we study bachelor's program ding English, it's a bong pa bo inverti.

SPEAKER_03 25:50

But Japan, you have you're gonna have to learn the language throughout the place. I agree. It's just the standard. But I won't like to add on this. How do you feel that papiano can be a little bit more than a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little hulandes and papiamento? What?

SPEAKER_02 26:09

This is the thing?

SPEAKER_03 26:10

Yeah. Wow. This was for a few elections already, they've been talking about this. They were they. Can you give me an example? Like so they wanna they want to make everything be more in like your mud. So you speak Papiamento at home, you speak pap all over the island, learn everything in papiamento, and even you give it to translation. School, that's the schools we're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 26:27

So I'm trying to be on the acht.

SPEAKER_03 26:31

I'm like, I mean, Sam, we interview people, like I know.

SPEAKER_02 26:37

But again, you can only go so far when you're like, hey, put a hai yung pan case. What? What's up here?

SPEAKER_03 26:43

Like it's I no, but that's what that but that's what like me. I think Michelle Steam for the I think I stop don't want to butcher her last name. I'm so sorry, Michelle. But she was one that was advocating for this when we did vote packing the first time. I remember really well. And she was saying, like, it's very easy if you have to learn everything. It's a kitung botter, a bater bopum wanta awa ding, it's a big thing. And if you translate it in Dutch, it's a flesh. So you know how to you know how still how to communicate, you know all of the elements of it. Ah, that is a fles. You know how to say it because you you understand it, but you know in your Dutch, in your own language, all the what it is and how it functions.

SPEAKER_02 27:26

It's kind of like when I talk sometimes, like a lot of people, but in English or Holland, I'm explicitly. Correct.

SPEAKER_03 27:34

Your native language is what you speak the most.

History, Identity And Meaningful Representation

SPEAKER_01 27:59

I'm not against that. I'm gonna do an education bilingual or more and not affect their cognitive development. We're not perhaps initiative. And for all education, basis, middleware school and principal Hollandes, pero nos tengas Hollandes, nostalgia carta turco, nossa carta idioma, Polish, but focus on the government Holland's local, we are comunicating the Hollandes. But if we are Polaky, we are coming in a car, we have to give a car and comprehend, and if we have the Holland's offering different opportunities in the bibliothek in Hulanda, and various role, we have an unpacked that we have media analfabate, or the idioma Hollandese, we'll buy programs in the bibliothek. The bibliothek is nice.

SPEAKER_03 29:44

I like that. I like that.

SPEAKER_01 29:50

Well, the next bit maker, but I am curious they couldn't have to be able to do it short, because that's the short answer.

SPEAKER_02 30:15

Like I think any plans of no sake. Like, they want a room.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

Um university learst in different professors who ler less. And we have a leerstool, which is a persona until we have to research on topics. And we'll be attention to the order historia kolonial in Hulanda. And if we have to pass in the past, and back to the talking about symbolpolitik, although the history of reino, we have historia kolonialismo and sclavit, but we are told and slabo and slaves who are luchar and libertarian. We're ainda un chola of the strat, pero no. We're not playing. For example, if we know there are more number lucha para terminar, let's give them a place that we strike built time.

SPEAKER_02 32:42

It's a place of belonging to them. That's nice. I do agree with that. I think even the two lot story, like that's a naive. You did a whole tour. I didn't do that tour because I wasn't there. But we learn about the background.

SPEAKER_03 33:06

Probably they said they have like a lot of different things. Like they're very proud. Like proud, dinang history, ng ng kia kuntabo, tur hindi pur kuntabo, you know that aligned with the same story. Ah no, like, saki batiko hasi, na, pero sakita, ankill. It's everybody's aligned with the same exact story. In nantaku, or guy nantakuntabu, di no, saki ta kun la bay, ihulan dis ng hasi saki, ngab bean, ng bay, saki hasisei, and they move on.

Non-Voters, Cynicism And Mobilization

SPEAKER_02 33:35

See, na na epese ta me wanna se hula nama ma gana get di kong ungta gusta otra mask as in like their culture and their history. The kong kasta a ak like we love or shit. Sharks A Basado, we're so whitewash. I never say, I get it. Although I hope we're not seeing it.

SPEAKER_03 34:00

There's still rich in culture and then I get it.

SPEAKER_01 34:13

Lago, Guerra Mundial 2 has a role grand, um important, clear, but we're going to have to do this. Focus in the passado, it's holistic. It's encompassed the history, and we're going to focus more with the last.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

So we sacrificed a little bit of our culture or a big chunk, but we can see it. Papia, we're going to person after you can see.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

Well, um minuto opinion hoppy fifty riba na directs na Minister of Binlands Zaken and Konikrex Relations. We need to draw a direction Konikreks Relasis. Assunto na director. I'm going to focus on Bonaro, St. Riva to Rubak, and St. Martin. But the most temple, simply those teams.

SPEAKER_02 35:32

But that makes sense to put a guy who can have a team rubiano? Not necessarily. It could be like a it's kind of a biased thing. You know what I mean? Like what I'm saying in the cabinet?

SPEAKER_01 35:43

But that's my decision. I'm going to say that we prefer focus best in this país and reino. And so we've seen those different teams could focus on the house.

SPEAKER_02 36:17

Well, man. See.

SPEAKER_01 36:25

Well, no, it's explicit. Not appropriate for me. Comparing my opinion of algo communicating directly. I can respect that. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 36:48

I can respect that. I mean. Damn that. It's your job. I get it. I get it. I get it.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

Ask me anything, but I'll talk about Hulanda nivel national. It's me prefer.

SPEAKER_02 37:15

That's it. So we're going to have to get going on within D66?

SPEAKER_01 37:31

No, no, no, no. And the election coincidence is an election 18th of March. And we're going to have to go to the first time.

SPEAKER_02 38:33

So advice that walkie.

SPEAKER_01 38:38

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 38:49

This hunger. Oh my god. Shandino.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

Being a din kuturbo so at least not. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 38:56

All of our people, again, you're f you're not fighting for Bomeas, but bring on the legit for everybody who's to come afterwards. Ki man, no sapi on tikiki over the big issue in non-voters. So our own people who know the base of supporting and voting. So, what is the cause of the non-voters and how do we switch this?

Housing, Speculation And Fair Rules

SPEAKER_01 39:19

We take care of different causa nang. We are going to be able to do it. We have a cynical cynical, I decided to vote, we can't do it. Doesn't matter, I'm not interested. Now we saw the responsibility, and we can be important to vote. One of the things that we can do about this is, if we see a walking or importance, conscientious, but that's responsible sectors, the education, antidiskrimination, culture, deport. There's an aspect of the data that is responsible. Are these things a website?

SPEAKER_03 40:29

Like you can find this information there?

SPEAKER_01 40:31

See, we'll be the website that we have and Google it, but also organizing different activities, social media, short videos, pleasure who is English, and the people.

SPEAKER_03 41:09

Wa, no shade na D66. Make sure you make this content and you post it on your own personal page. This is what you're gonna promote, this is what you're gonna push, and this is where you would inform. Everybody that has any single type of questions, Pablo, this is where they should be able to feel comfortable, ng po reach out naabu and filter this and this. Like even if you can maybe campaign with you.

SPEAKER_01 41:55

See, I will do. Um to dank it time, I walk in meeting me Instagram to public, it's a Zane the Ponte.

SPEAKER_03 42:03

Keep it that way.

SPEAKER_01 42:04

Meeting party amigo nanku to you dano me, building website, uh meeting a domain names kaba, vota pa zane.nl e. Claro, the hulandia stamina. Stand for Zane.nl uh not a live.

SPEAKER_02 42:16

There was a clip of Instagram of the of um oh my god, advice. Uh-huh. No, but see by the time.

SPEAKER_01 42:25

See, no, me, lance my website, and to lokalbo dishark time to hope important, miti papi, ku tour hien. This is a problem. I have ideas about how to help you with your campaign. Of we can just baby coffee kubu umbiya, feel free to reach out, lagami sa, mita sintok.

SPEAKER_03 42:50

And I feel like it's something that you just mentioned, the one of the reasons notavota. Like no sende nota votando. And I want to just say something, guys. Like for moving on in the future, we have to start practicing selflessness. And Mr. Bira koongos, nobody paying sa kuvota awe ki man kambi awe. Soblings, butang rumang ng krimo ng ku, eventually lo kier bing hulanda. Why should they have the same horrible experience you had? If you have the opportunity to make sure, I'm saying, ng ku ng kambi pari koos ng pa asta mi roman chikito, of mi pripo chikito, of mi toprino ng DCD kun nang siker bing hulanda, by then this is changed. This is fixed, this is not an issue anymore. Correct. Ki man, we have to start thinking the selfish ways. Great, notaba yi da abo, if that's how you feel, we respect that. But that does not mean you cannot fix the future for somebody else who doesn't need to struggle if they don't. If you have the opportunity to make sure this person does not struggle, then why the fuck not?

SPEAKER_01 44:02

Fully accordo, fully accord. And so uh convincing, say, no studyantin, no studyantin, I'm not studying mass, what you just said is exactly the reason why they should still consider voting for me. And we have other ideas, it's horrible. Correct. No, then 4-6 mil, and estimate, so we don't even know for sure.

SPEAKER_02 45:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 45:14

Correct. Also, my participant is an apartment of a cash pagable, and at the same time, we have the cases. And the media we have the election is an apartment to be 6 of 9 lunar, and we don't have it. And we'll see the property owners. But we have to say, we want a little time, but we can fully na the highest bidder. But we say we have a podcast.

SPEAKER_00 46:15

Yes! I have been counting.

SPEAKER_01 46:22

But acceptable, and you need the bashi, available for housing. But for what reason? Speculating that the value will increase in the medium to short term and sell it for a higher price.

Balancing Left And Right: Opportunity And Responsibility

SPEAKER_02 46:57

But value, I mean, a value see to ding off a foyer to, anyways. It's kind of like a car. Like, ah, bro, no, it's not though, because it's a building. No, I know I know that's not what I mean. My point is like it's been used multiple times, so the value keeps going down. So if I have a house, so we keep it the premium price, maybe I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 47:21

No, it's a value to determine the location, location, location, location. But we can use the tram halter of business. And so we don't need lunch, we need to get a club, okay.

SPEAKER_03 48:04

Airbnb's nang e kobona hone in general. Diggist, like these richest families, and so it's like Trump has a lot of shit.

SPEAKER_02 48:20

But being the flip of rent, Trump is putting a stop to it, like all these big like black rock, like, but you're not doing this shit anymore.

SPEAKER_01 48:26

Now it's active in Europa, you know, black rock, uh, different pays now. But it's like an example, no, algo que nos mete hacipa, but so.

SPEAKER_02 48:58

But this is more of a socialist group. I mean, it's a lot of the yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:01

This is a center party. So a little bit of everything. Correct. But rechts, and to put focus, personal responsibility. It's up to you, and gobierno, most possible. Gobierno thing cut red tape and let everyone do their own thing. Correct. We can stay in C.

SPEAKER_02 49:50

Next time we have company, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, but we're gonna have to. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 50:00

Correct.

SPEAKER_02 50:09

Me too.

SPEAKER_01 50:10

In the same way, for all hands, the challenges, less privileged, you the nancy, different manner, but it's a very good thing.

SPEAKER_03 50:30

Like, I like it can go very, very good or very bad. With that sense, the I guess it we on the same side because it's all about accountability. Like, but we have circumstances of life.

SPEAKER_02 50:46

Bullshit.

SPEAKER_03 50:47

Like, come on, at some point, like you have opportunities, but you have um mobility, you have all these types of things.

SPEAKER_02 50:55

Remove yourself from the problem.

SPEAKER_03 50:58

Try to self-motivate. It's easier to say, but I read a lot of books, but I waku hoping. We're gonna have to keep that mentality. Nah. No. If you're there, it's because you're gonna be able to do that. Thank you for going to what you did, but that ain't my opportunity. I have AI and internet and all these access available to me.

SPEAKER_01 51:29

No, I'm a victim to hold you back. Out of the goblins, but we have cierta factor to hold them back, local worry, opportunity, the responsability of the government, local sufficient opportunity to meet some bad, but the outcome is up to them. The opportunity we need to help you with, the outcome is up to you.

Grassroots Strategy And Data-Driven Outreach

SPEAKER_02 52:15

I feel like I always lean more towards right. If I want to do something, it's because of my own efforts. I'm gonna be seeing like if you lean more towards right, but add fair rules, like lay the groundwork, equal opportunity, but it's up to you who's gonna be able to do it. I'm happy with that too. It's just like it's equal. But if you want the left side, tape, must block it. I just don't believe in that part at all.

SPEAKER_01 53:02

We're definitely more on the left side. Yeah, as you should. As you should damn right. And so when it comes to cutting red tape for businesses, definitely more on the right side. But strike a balance.

SPEAKER_02 53:33

Alright, I'm starting, I'm I'm on tomorrow. So, I'm gonna use this. So I did a page. What the hell? Like those million followers, so like that's it, and to my homeless Den Haag. So correct.

SPEAKER_03 54:07

That's what you're saying, he's running for Den Haag.

SPEAKER_01 54:09

See, because a vereniging local chapters afdeling the time could be tour gemeente. Can we a relation in land bureau of landing and afdeling a landlike vereniging to members of the D66 to pagan membership fees in a landlord bureau? To be doing donations via a landlord bureau. But in local afdelings, and we're afdeling the purpose of manera, but we're all locally organized.

SPEAKER_02 55:06

But we have to have Amsterdam of RNA. We're not poor, but we're rich are not handy. So if you don't be able to RM, we don't have an RNA vote.

SPEAKER_01 55:32

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 55:33

It's a Denhag election.

SPEAKER_01 55:34

Correct. Correct. Got it.

SPEAKER_02 55:46

Got it, got it. So it's a tour here, then.

SPEAKER_03 55:53

And everybody from our ABC Islands and St. Martin and all these places who are porting access, they have a following, they have a platform and they can reach the people who portata ding then, or maybe ding nang other start who says, hey, wait, check it.

SPEAKER_01 56:22

Standard. I'm down.

SPEAKER_03 56:44

And we vocal even after. Make sure this information is all. Just traha sibo miss plug. So like it don't matter. It don't matter. Like it won't, you know, see, stand up.

SPEAKER_02 57:09

So don't make that mistake. This end of the out, this c preach, the election. But built on trust over the years with like what was it? Like, maskooch DJ, it means I relate, and he proved, you know.

SPEAKER_01 57:37

And so we are different, and I think we have to confiance. Then nobody says, my constituency, papa, one on one, of the group, but an active stream of communication. I'm sorry, we have part-time. By the way, we don't explica what we have part-time job. And I'm going sacrificing one day in my study. We try to semang, we will try in the future 4 days 1 day paying rats. But I only have so much time.

SPEAKER_02 58:37

I need them. Dude, very don't do it. No. See the guys, I know it's a live stream. It's like I get it. I get the political thing of like, I mean, I get the strat, I get it. It is. It it's over. So it's you have to be smart about it.

SPEAKER_03 59:33

Or do people it's like in your in your extra free time, hey, you know what? I don't have nothing to do. This is my time, my zane hour. I want to sit with somebody. I want to physically hear, okay. What is bo issues now? Or maybe you don't have to physically sit with these people. Until they can actually do these things until gather this information and then once a month, maybe but focus group kunang. And this ding mi area on the amita bibba of the miskology, I'm questionnaire and this was the information that I got. Nam to puskando this type of help. This is what we did, and this type of help. So now you're not physically sitting down one-on-one on one. Your team is doing that for you, and they're getting legit hindango. Kia reach qualta estudiant and you're getting direct information from them from trusted sources. And now you know maneuver on to be say, hey, no, D66, listen, I actually have data. I don't know about how everybody got it, but I actually have data and this is what the data is saying.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:50

And please don't make it too political. This is then political. B, their friend.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:55

Now they're like, shake my hand. Like, bro. It's about to change. It's about to change. See, see, see.

Closing Message And Call For Votes

SPEAKER_01 1:01:01

No, me too. Of course. Figuring things out. But these are good ideas.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:10

This is the the goal is to see you win. Again, the race is not for you, the race is for everybody coming after.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:17

The good thing about you being unno bat niggas, perspective, although you're not going to be able to do it. So you're kind of like dipped in it already. But Evelyn, Mikey Man, they already have the old mentality of politics. And I will come in with a different perspective. Seguro.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:45

I looked up to him.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:49

Okay. So it's a disaster. Oh, fuck. Okay. Dis. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:11

No nang. No mi familia. I know what's going on. And to amikur me positive. Good man.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:21

Zain the ponte, kim number. Boom. And the brain kibo time is number. And to dang your miriba showman. We're looking forward. But my follow up via no further zones. But keep tabs through a book.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:36

Okay, boom.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:37

So we better uh put out the content, man. Double down, triple down, point through the table in social media. So, if you don't have two minute videos, you guys comment, and we can just next video. So last message, close out the camera.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:56

Those last messages, thank you for the opportunity. 100%. And we're representing 4, 2 mil Arubian Kantian to be in the Denhag. Hope you take the vote, but there is a positive for boss.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:37

That's for sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:38

Awesome. And I'm not going to away. I'm definitely going to be able to away. And we'll talk about the