From “Gay” Stereotypes to Political Drama in Aruba | EP 243

Calling a guy “gay” because he gets a manicure, wears sunscreen, or listens to pop music sounds harmless… until those stereotypes start shaping how men act, dress, and express themselves.

In this episode, we break down why society still labels basic self-care and confidence as “gay behavior,” how masculinity gets socially policed, and why attraction — not hobbies, music taste, or skincare — is what actually defines sexuality.

We talk grooming, beard care, skincare routines, sunscreen in a high-UV place like Aruba, and why so many men still feel pressure to avoid anything considered “too feminine.” We also get into pop culture, macho posturing, and how culture influences what people see as “normal.”

Then we shift into bigger conversations happening around Aruba right now:
• the backlash surrounding dolphin photo moments and respecting wildlife
• questioning politicians after elections
• transparency and accountability with public money
• media drama, opposition politics, and civic responsibility
• upcoming guests like Aruba Conservation Foundation
• how listeners can send questions for future episodes

This episode moves from masculinity and stereotypes to nature, politics, and accountability — all through an honest No Filter in Paradise conversation.

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Transcript

Radio Announcement And Giveaways

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Before we start today's episode, we just want to let you know that Shark and I are finally going to the radio, which means every single Saturday you can tune in on XFM 102.7, hang out with us, play some good music. We got a bunch of giveaways and just an overall good time and vibe. So tune in Saturday, 10 a.m. to 12 p.m. Enjoy the episode.

unknown 0:22

Peace.

Competitive Banter And Bold Questions

SPEAKER_01 0:23

Sign me up, but I'm competitive, Sam. I don't do shit for fun. That's stupid. I'm sorry, respectfully. Shout out to all the people that do shit stuff for fun. Anything with like a competition, baby, I'm in it to win it. Period. What makes what makes a person gay? Who's a homo? You's a homo fucking sexual. That's what this list is, guys. It's all the things that D only does.

SPEAKER_02 0:49

It's too gay. It's too gay. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_01 0:52

What else is on your I'm not gay list?

SPEAKER_04 0:56

You think that it's something like, I don't wanna say genetics, but it's born with, because you know that's always a big conversation. Oh, you're just born gay. You don't great.

SPEAKER_01 1:03

You ask me a fucking question. Let me fucking answer you the fucking question. The fuck? Yeah, too bad. Shut the fuck up. Somebody else is gonna walk the person saying that. Like, you just you just sound like a dirty ass nigga. Like, you sound like you don't shower enough. Your nails are probably crusty. There's like black shit between your nails. You're like that. I already put you in friend zone. Do you think now I'm gonna be like, mmm, never mind. Now that you said that you strayed, now I'm like, now I can see like, oh, you actually really hot. Like, let my vagina wet up for you. Like sounds like you have um a mental disorder. Hey yo, what's up? Hello? Alack.

SPEAKER_04 1:43

It's the damn intro. Guys, welcome back to the ABC Islands favorite podcast, Little Filter in Paradise. Um, what you get? A show about anything and everything between two friends. One is straight and the other. The one is super fast.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

I'm sorry. And the other one's super slow. Is that what you're trying to say?

SPEAKER_04 2:00

Guess who's the slow one and guess who's the fast one, guys?

SPEAKER_01 2:03

Comment.

SPEAKER_04 2:05

Go wait.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

Black and gay, though. I'm here. I'm here.

SPEAKER_04 2:09

First of all, I think it's disrespectful. And it hurts my feelings that you're wearing that hat to this podcast today. Guys, if you don't know.

SPEAKER_01 2:19

This is a hat for people that if you know. If you know, you know.

SPEAKER_04 2:21

Yeah. And I'm part of that if you know, you know, but I just I missed it. Well, you're not. Because you don't have much. I know. I brought my own hat today. That's great. Actually, I put it backwards because apparently, like do what you gotta do. Apparently, women, girls, whatever, like backwards hat. What? It's it's it's they comment and I'm just saying. Hi. Anyways, guys, welcome back to the

Stereotypes And Where They Come From

SPEAKER_04 2:46

episode. Um, this week's topic.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

That was wild. What? That was wild. What was wild? That little thing there. Anyways, guys. You're feeling your skinny self. You're so stupid. Guys. It's giving sick, uh, like like not sick. TikTok Sam. Oh, I was like, sick. Like I was gonna say sick sock.

SPEAKER_04 3:08

Yeah, back at uh that was like COVID times, 2020. 2020. Oh, skinny. Yeah, I'm actually looking at that same almost. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

It's that's what it's giving right now. You're even your energy is giving like annoying ass Sam again.

SPEAKER_04 3:20

Like I'm almost there, guys. I'm almost there. 10? Yeah. I started at 101. Actually, more. I started at 101. Last I weighed myself, it was 88.8 uh seven. Okay, you're trying to become toothpick. Apparently, according to chat, my ideal weight is 85 kilos. Okay. So I don't know, but I'm happy where I'm at right now. Things are going fucking great. You can see my energy is better. I'm sleeping better. I'm I'm working out every morning. I miss sometimes, but it is what it is. Um but yeah, it's just like losing all the weight means anything you must like light. I feel lighter. That's how it works. My knees are like, thank you, you know, and uh so I feel fucking good. So go to the gym, eat healthy.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

That's part of it. Yeah, not mistake.

SPEAKER_04 4:08

Anyways, I stopped drinking. That's I I cut back with drinking a lot. Like I still every now and then, but like it has to be like an occasion. Like I move into my house, we took a shot at tequila. I think did you take a shot at tequila next? Are you fucking crazy? Oh well, when you come to my house next, we'll do it.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

No, I'm not taking no fucking shadows tequila. What is wrong with you? Like, you forgot are you trying to invite a bad bitch to your house? Like, don't we know what you want? Not even in your own house. Anyway, so what's goody? What's goody, what's goody, y'all. We are back after a very long time. It's been like a week, I want to say. I'm like, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_04 4:47

We recorded last week. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_01 4:49

No, we didn't. We recorded last week for ambulance later.

SPEAKER_04 4:53

Yeah, ambulance. I mean, ambulance. I'm not saying some guys go look at the episode. If you don't know what these people do, episode last uh came out last episode. Just go on YouTube. Yeah, it's there, it's already there. So go look it up. I learned a lot. I didn't know they do certain things. I'm like, damn, you can do them. Like, props to you guys, because I won't even survive half of the shit they did.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

And they were fun. I love that they made the conversation not entertaining. Like, like, oh no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 5:26

They show the real people.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

We are real people doing this real job, and we have to go home to real problems. It was real. So much respect to them in general.

SPEAKER_04 5:35

And I love how they it's like it's it's all fun and games because again, these guys are also really good friends with people from Brantware and police. So I like how like they will throw jabs. Like when we say, but like they know it's an inside joke.

SPEAKER_01 5:49

Of course, everybody knows. I mean, you have to be slow not to listen.

SPEAKER_04 5:53

So that's why now we gotta bring Brandtwear. I mean, hey, Brandtware. Hey, boss uh, yeah. I'm in the East again, I love that.

SPEAKER_01 6:09

No, he was messy. That's just what it is.

SPEAKER_04 6:11

That's just like how can I blow this shit up without how can I blow this shit up and this shit blow it up? It's because of me, but not because of me. You know what I mean? That's evil. In a grit in a grit and positive way. And we're in talks with him to have him on the show.

SPEAKER_01 6:26

Hopefully soon.

SPEAKER_04 6:26

Only took us like 240 episodes, but hey.

SPEAKER_01 6:30

Stop the stop the aciwe game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. All right.

SPEAKER_04 6:34

So I got a question for you, Shark. Oh my gosh. No, no, no. It's it's it's because you're gay, so I think it's the greatest.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

Oh my god, am I gay?

SPEAKER_04 6:42

Are you black?

SPEAKER_01 6:43

I what?

SPEAKER_04 6:45

No fucking idea. Talk to me. So, like, so you know, like sometimes people have certain behaviors and they're like bisexual.

SPEAKER_01 6:51

Okay, sorry, I'm done. I'm done. I'm really done. I'm sorry, I'm really done.

SPEAKER_04 6:54

This is why people believe the sh like that's not true.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

Okay, they know your marriage is American, like your wife is American. We know this. She's white as fuck. She's blonde, she's thick, we get it. Like thick with you know, three C's. We know. Not people don't know. Trust me, we all know.

SPEAKER_04 7:12

Shout out to Rubyan, give me Kassasu DM Song to Wabu also.

SPEAKER_01 7:16

Um, anyhow. Let's get to this question.

SPEAKER_04 7:18

So, what makes what makes a person gay? You know, like sometimes like people have behaviors. That was like a loaded question. Like, what? Like, you know, like what kind of behavior? Like, mm-hmm that person must be gay.

SPEAKER_01 7:31

I don't think that's fair.

SPEAKER_04 7:32

But you but you know, okay, but stereotyp stereotypes, like people have certain behaviors, like the gay person, that's what I'm saying. Like the beastie.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

So, like, let's break that down so people like let's because I think it's a very I think it's a it's it's like it's a very demasculating conversation. It is, it is. I have a few talking points that I'm gonna bring up for ex like Great. You ask me a fucking question, let me fucking answer you the fucking question. The fuck? It's my energy, it's my old yeah, too bad. Shut the fuck up. All right, okay. So, first of all, I think that is a very unfair assessment to even assume somebody's gay just based off of. I mean, first of all, people grew up with certain characteristics and certain things that is very normalized for certain people that is very abnormal for other people. Yeah, and I think your geographic location plays a big role. Where you're born says a lot of things, the things that we accepted here. Look what we're doing.

SPEAKER_04 8:31

Yeah, I think like it's it's super taboo. Like when we started, people are like, ah, that's the Marikodambi. I'm like, bro, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_01 8:36

Like, but even like that, I mean we've had like Ranchi and all these other people way before. So it's like seeing a gay person is not like a thing. But even like this close proximity and friendship is like it's it's weird, and you wouldn't get that around the world. Do you think it's still weird in Aruba? Not in Aruba, that's what I'm saying. Your geographic location.

SPEAKER_04 8:54

What about what about Carcel?

SPEAKER_01 8:56

I don't think it's that at all. No, they've been doing comedia and all these type of things, so it's not, but I feel like if you go further to like Africa and those type of things, yeah, it's not as common.

SPEAKER_04 9:08

Like in the Middle East, some places in the Middle East, not all of them, but like some it's not common.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

So things like this still to this day is not common. Like there's certain places women still can't vote around the world. True, you know, they're still sewing women's vaginas up so they don't thousand percent still happening. So then you look at like where you're located, and you're like, damn, like that shit is not even close to what's happening right, like to imagine some girl is going through that right now, and this is like your reality. Yeah, so the same thing I feel like for like the gay stuff. It's like somebody maybe just grew up more like with their grandparents or like or like you know, the grandmother and the female. And they're like old school, like eh, that's a grandma go. Could be, but you can also get that somebody like they're way more feminized, but hella straight. They have no interest in being with a man at all. Like, there's none of that exists. I can be hella cool with the gays. Maybe I even grew up with the gays. Because you also have that. I have some friends that they say like, ey mucha, mi mama taku sampertakut. He is not the least bit interested in men at all.

SPEAKER_04 10:22

Like, so do you think yeah, okay. I was gonna say, do you think that it's something like I don't want I don't want to say genetics, but something like you're born with? Because you know that that's always at the conversation. Oh, you're just born gay, you don't choose to be gay.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

Again, I think it's very different because going back to your question, what you might seem as oh, that's girly, somebody else might grow up that they grew up doing probably doing that thing, and that's was like a normal thing. Who gives a fuck type of thing in their household? But in your household, if you dare had done that, or why are you playing with dolls? The lashing you would have probably gotten. So now you're traumatizing, you're thinking that oh no, like he's walking, his pants is a little too tight, or he probably does this a bit too much, so he's definitely gay. Like, but that's just your perspective.

SPEAKER_04 11:12

Doesn't say it's not a fair assessment to call somebody gay just based off of things that this conversation about the stereotypes of like people, for example, like if you care too much about your fashion, how you look, and you want to be super extra fashionable, and like the water, like you know what

Grooming, Hygiene, And Confidence

SPEAKER_04 11:30

I mean?

SPEAKER_01 11:30

Yeah, but I mean, then the stereotype is on two people at the same time because then the somebody else is gonna watch the person saying that, but like, you just you just sound like a dirty ass nigga. Like, you sound like you don't shower enough. Your nails are probably crusty. There's like black shit between your nails, you're like that's how you look at people that look at guys that take care of their their their hygiene.

SPEAKER_04 11:52

Doesn't mean you're gay.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Let me go get me a manicure. Yeah, clear polish, whatever. I take care of myself, I go to the you know, get my facials done.

SPEAKER_04 12:03

And so guys that go and get their manicures and pedicures, not gay. No, I don't think so. I mean I mean, guys, let me clarify. There's gay guys that don't do it. Let me clarify one thing. Whatever I'm saying today is just like the stereotype things that we hear, and we're just like talking about it. I don't think it's gay. I go, like, if I if I'm with Tori, if we're abroad and or we travel, she wants to get like a pedicure. I'm like, you wanna come with me? I'm like, fine, let's go. And I just sit there, it's like get a little foot massage, get you know, get the little nasty ass feet cleaned.

SPEAKER_01 12:35

Yeah, that is dragging your body for years and years and years. I think your feet and your hands deserve some pampering. Yeah, you are nasty if you don't do this. That is fucking gross.

SPEAKER_04 12:46

All right, so next on the list will be so caring for your fashion that you know, somebody that really, really cares does not make you gay.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

Yeah, because I'm gay and I don't even care about my fashions like that. I just be wearing shit.

SPEAKER_04 12:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:58

So you're not gay.

SPEAKER_04 13:00

At the end of the day, at the end of the day, it's also the person rocking it, you know, it's the confidence and how you wear it. So what about skincare routines?

SPEAKER_01 13:08

Absolutely not gay. Like, you should take care of your skin, especially the older that you get. No, I'm saying, I'm fucking the older you get, you're supposed to take care of your skin. Like, guys, we're getting older. Like, we live in the skin. I do a skincare routine. Like, I feel like people don't take in account, like we live in the sun. Yeah, the sun rays, they fuck us up. I've like I grew up hearing people say, like, oh, you're black, you shouldn't wear sunscreen because that have to do with me and my beautiful melanated chocolate skin, baby. Okay, that's why y'all look so old and quilly by your 27. And then you're all you're all wrinkly, your skin hanging, skin loose. So black people wear sunscreen because it is for everybody. Do you do you have a skincare routine? Yes, I do.

SPEAKER_04 13:56

Like you have a I have a I have a morning one and I want it's like there's two products. Why are you laughing? Because I'm explaining my skincare routine, doesn't make me gain.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

You just made like one or two products.

SPEAKER_04 14:06

Because like sometimes people think skincare routine, like, ah, they're gonna pull a cinco freaking product.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

No, but I mean, like, there's mixed things. There's like twice a week, you know, you're supposed to at least have like a exfoliation. Oh, no, yeah, yeah. So then you have like a separate thing for that one. And the exfoliation days, yeah, you have like different creams for those as well.

SPEAKER_04 14:25

So like I actually have any in my phone. See what I mean? So I can keep track, like morning from from Are You Serious?

SPEAKER_01 14:35

I got morning routine.

SPEAKER_04 14:38

Fucking asshole.

SPEAKER_01 14:39

It is not gay. It is really not gay. I feel like you're just trying to do all the things that you do. That's what this list is, guys. It's all the things that he normally does, and now he wants to like cut down.

SPEAKER_02 14:53

Fuck you. That is not true.

SPEAKER_01 14:56

What else is on your I'm not gay list?

SPEAKER_04 14:59

No, my skincare routine is basically just the one morning thing and then like a little, like uh just a lotion, but like with soundblock and stuff. Okay, I've I started I started doing this December last year. So before that, I never really had a skincare routine. Yeah, no, it's just like that. What? It's it'd be like that. Yeah, I thought you were still like, yeah, I could see that. No, it'd be like that. It'd be like that. So I just recently started doing it, and and I can actually see a difference. Like you see it, you feel it. I 100%. So I just have a morning one, just one thing, and then the lotion and the nighttime, same thing. It's like uh another like whatever like lotion thing. Yeah, and some I don't even know what it is.

SPEAKER_01 15:37

A moisturizer, you need a moisturizer, yeah. Especially for the night, the nighttime moisturizer is yeah, you rub that in. Even for my beard, you leave that in, okay? Yeah, so yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:46

Even for my beard, I I actually during the day I didn't do it today, but usually I put the like a balm, like a uh Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:54

The one you got from the locals.

SPEAKER_04 15:55

Yeah, shout out to Arubarba. So and it's a local product, only five ingredients. That's why when it's super organic. And at night time I put uh oil, just so like at least when I'm sitting there in the AC all night. It's not drying out, and uh, and I'm sleeping like on it, so like it at least it keeps it kind of straight in a way. I might be completely wrong, but it works for me and I'm happy with it. But guys, do your skincare routines. It's gonna be happy, you're gonna be uh not gay for some matter. Speaking with a softer voice, is that doesn't make you gay?

Skincare, Sunscreen, And Pop Music

SPEAKER_04 16:28

Guys, it's a list here, right?

SPEAKER_01 16:29

This is ridiculous. I think this list is so stupid. Hey, well, Chad, you're stupid. Yeah, I'm sorry. Chad, this was your leasin's word um objective that features.

SPEAKER_04 16:38

Alright, we'll skip that one.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

Cause what?

SPEAKER_04 16:41

Love popping divas like Lady Gaga and Beyonce. Miles came through my mind right away. Super gay.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

Okay, so first of all. So we got something. No.

SPEAKER_04 16:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

So first of all, I feel like straight guys love to pretend that they don't like things that they actually really like. Okay. So, like, y'all always be like, oh no, we're not gonna watch these drama series. Let a bitch put it on. The way y'all be invested in that shit and you're like, hey, yo, when is the other episode? Like, a lot of people. Are we gonna watch it or not? Like, yo, I started watching without you. Like, it was just so good. So, y'all enjoy music. Like, if you're on your own, you enjoy a specific type of music that is like, but you guys are just, I don't know, guys just love to play more macho than they should sometimes.

SPEAKER_05 17:33

Especially guys on the river, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

Own your shit, bitch. If you like, if you love pop music, pop music is popular music, it's not girly music. It means it's music that is popular. That means you're hearing it everywhere, you can't escape it. It is popular. That is what pop music is. I hope people understand that. It's not white people music.

SPEAKER_04 17:53

Okay. What about saying things like slay queen or period?

SPEAKER_01 18:01

Okay, listen. I'm trying to find one. Like, there has to be at least one thing. That is definitely gay. I'm sorry. Like, you got you say something like yo, you're homo, you're a homo fucking sexual.

SPEAKER_04 18:15

There's a three-verse, you'll never hear me say.

SPEAKER_01 18:17

Use a homo fucking sexual. I might say, period.

SPEAKER_04 18:19

Like, because only because of because you say it's periodico.

SPEAKER_01 18:22

But let me also defend my let me defend my. Comment down below.

SPEAKER_04 18:25

What makes a what makes a guy or a girl gay?

SPEAKER_01 18:27

Like, you certain behaviors. Let me, let me, let me, let me say something though. Let me say something. Let me say something. Let me say something. Play to me. I feel like a lot of guys, though, they love to like as like bro guys, like the Tyler and them type of like frat type of boys.

SPEAKER_05 18:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:43

So you can understand. They are boys that love to fuck around. So they are very comfortable with their sexuality. They're comfortable enough that they could play stupid fucking jokes like that.

SPEAKER_00 18:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

It's not all guys can do that. Only comfortable enough guys can do that. And they do. They will be like, Slay, honey. They're not fucking gay. We know they're not gay. You just know they just fucking around. So it's like a joke. Like, you know it's a joke. Leaving that fucking white boy's name boom a claw all the time. Like, shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_04 19:14

Waguan.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

You see what I mean? Right, guys.

SPEAKER_04 19:16

In the office, a bunch of white guys, and only one black guy, uh, Zion. He goes, like, Waguan, everybody in the in the office. Zion. You know Zion works on the rocks. He works with us too at the content project.

SPEAKER_01 19:26

No.

SPEAKER_04 19:26

I'll show you a picture.

SPEAKER_01 19:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 19:28

Anyways.

SPEAKER_01 19:29

But yeah. Stuff like that. So I don't think. I think it depends on how he's saying it. Like, if it's like on his regular vocabulary, then it's something I'ma just be like, sis. Sis. Sis. But ain't no straight man just randomly just saying it like, like, ooh, Slate Queen. Like, you got the fucker. You ate that up.

SPEAKER_04 19:51

Maybe maybe it's a strategy. You get clothes like, yo. You know, the whole time the girl thinks you're gay. Next thing you know.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

You think a girl's gonna want to sleep with you because you pretend to be gay?

SPEAKER_04 19:59

No, but as in in the beginning of the night and throughout the night, you're like, oh, I thought you were gay. Like, no, I'm not gay. I never said I was gay. But you assumed.

SPEAKER_01 20:07

So you think that's gonna make a girl's vagina wet? Oh my god. You know, you don't get it. No, I get the I get the whole gameplay of it. Yeah. But now you told me after all it is, I already put you in friend zone. Do you think now I'm gonna be like, ooh, never mind. Now that you said that you straight, now I'm like, now I can see like, oh, you actually really hot. Like, let my vagina wet up for you. Like, sounds like you have um like a mental disorder. Like that person, not me.

SPEAKER_04 20:35

Yo, hold up, clarify.

SPEAKER_01 20:37

Yeah, you should say, sounds like that person. That person, whatever. Like, you whoever sing this, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 20:44

So, so what's the dumbest thing society labels as gay then?

SPEAKER_01 20:48

This whole conversation, like that was so dumb.

SPEAKER_04 20:54

Like, I was trying to make content today, but apparently sometimes we sometimes it misses. You don't always get to, you know, I just gotta chill. This whole conversation. I'm I'm pretty sure everybody's watching, like, I was thinking the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 21:16

Hey, just before we forget, every Monday and Friday it's no filter eats. Link in description so you can find out way more information.

SPEAKER_05 21:28

So how's your day, Charlie?

SPEAKER_01 21:34

Okay, um this was wild.

SPEAKER_04 21:38

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

This was really wild.

SPEAKER_04 21:40

I was just thinking about it. I was like, oh, well, what makes a person? Because in the rubber, like a lot of people label certain people based on behaviors or even us when whenever we started in the beginning, like you right away assumed that I was gay, which I wasn't.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

And you said I wasn't.

SPEAKER_04 21:55

Oh shit, I'm not, but um. So that's why I'm like, it made me think like, you know, what else do people like what other behaviors um do people here like see that and like ha look at the fucking gay seagwood? Like if you if I don't know the way you sit, the way you stand. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 22:17

So I was like, let me just ask Shark that's how the gay people sit and stand.

SPEAKER_04 22:20

I don't know. Fucking super cross-legged. I just fucking did it now. Oh gay. God damn it. I just leaked apart.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

I don't know. Cause again, like I feel like people take like gay shit gay shit like all the way too far sometimes. Cause like we are niggas at the end of the day, we got balls. Okay. Some of us have big balls and big dicks. We can't be sitting cross-legged for like what is this? There is still some balls here. So yeah, no, I don't know. Like that was very wild. But I think what makes somebody gay is when you love men, when you're a man and you love men and you're a woman and you love women, you know, you are gay. If you're a woman, you love women, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:10

That's what I said. Yeah, sorry, I didn't hear the first part. Yeah, look around. There's nobody else. That's us.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

Did y'all hear this? I think that's what I said, right? Shut the fuck up. Like, I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_04 23:22

Well, that's part, that's that's done for my dumb part of the show. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_01 23:27

Listen, this is what makes the show like I was about to say.

SPEAKER_04 23:31

This is what makes this show the most authentic show on this island. I think on all three islands, because literally, this is just a normal conversation we would have off camera and we're just like, hey, we spent pop the go geek. Don't piss me off.

SPEAKER_01 23:42

Like, okay, I have a very serious question. Like, you're so dumb.

SPEAKER_04 23:46

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

No, I don't have a question. I don't have a question. Oh my god. Okay, so I actually brought something to show you.

Radio Plug, Festival Plans, And Medals

SPEAKER_04 23:52

Guys, as he's looking that up, hey, every single Saturday, we're on Jesus Christ. Every single Saturday, Shark and I are on the radio. We give away some money on the radio. We send it through Centu. Basically, we buy you lunch for that day. What the fuck? And um, so yeah, tune in every Saturday at on XFM. We're on 2.7 from 10 in the morning till noon. There's one more thing I want to say. Oh, also, hey, Flip Flop Festival, June 6th. Don't miss it. We're gonna be there. Actually, we're gonna be vlogging, walking around the whole place, and we're gonna make the fun reels. Maybe some giveaways. We're still planning it out, but all in all, we just want to have a good time at flip-flop. So let's look at Charles get to that soon.

SPEAKER_01 24:36

Metals that he bought.

SPEAKER_04 24:38

That he bought.

SPEAKER_01 24:39

He said that's the KLM one, right?

SPEAKER_00 24:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

Break my table. I'm sorry. I have a KLM one. This one I did for Favi. I was the best athletic figure. Oh. Um, this one was my Gillette 5K. And we were having a conversation on the radio. I was told I did a half marathon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh.

SPEAKER_04 25:02

Let me this fake thing.

SPEAKER_01 25:04

What fake? Boy, get out of here.

SPEAKER_04 25:07

So we had a conversation on the radio. He's like, I did a half marathon. I'm like, what?

SPEAKER_01 25:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:13

Damn.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

2014.

SPEAKER_04 25:15

March May. Yeah. No, is it March? March. March 16th. Yeah, okay. Congrats. That's crazy. I didn't know you could do that.

SPEAKER_01 25:21

Damn. This is before his knee surgery, by the way. Now this definitely was. This definitely was. Now he can barely do five. And brand new sneakers. Fuck you. I can do five. Should we do the K Lam marathon? What?

SPEAKER_00 25:31

Should we sign up for the K Lam one? Yeah, you heard me. What? When is it again? If I fucking do myself. I think we should do it. Don't do slow stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:42

Um, we should go as no, guys. Let us. I'm the hire.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

Okay, don't come sleeping people.

SPEAKER_04 25:48

Listen, I'm the higher I'm Gush to go by participant in Kayla Marathon. We'll do the 5k. We'll keep it short. That's doable. Come on. And we just vlog it.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

I'm not vlogging shit. No. Boy, if I'm running, don't bother me. Get out of my face.

SPEAKER_04 26:02

No, but like you might mic yourself up. I'll mic myself up. I'll give you a mic and then connect it to your phone and just like, and then like we'll edit it, like, you know, what's your pace? Like, what's my pace?

SPEAKER_01 26:11

Like, find somebody to run with me because I'm not doing that. Yeah, running. You have to be concentrated. Like, what are you talking about? Running and vlogging. Like, it's a fun fucking race. I don't take shit for fun, clearly. That's not a good one.

SPEAKER_04 26:26

Let me look it up when it is.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

Sign me up, but I'm competitive, Sam. I don't do shit for fun. That's stupid. I'm sorry. Respectfully. Shout out to all the people that do stuff for fun. I respect y'all. But anything with like a competition, baby, I'm in it to win it. Period.

SPEAKER_04 26:43

It's uh it's June. Oh you see what I mean? When in June? June 6th. And June 7th.

SPEAKER_01 26:52

Kaka Pablo.

SPEAKER_04 26:53

Yeah, we're not going.

SPEAKER_01 26:55

Is it in the morning?

SPEAKER_04 26:56

No, well, it's Saturday and Sunday, but I think it's Saturday, June 6th, it's flip-flop, which I just mentioned. So. And then it's Sunday morning. I'm gonna look up. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

Madrugal. Hey, hey, 2027. We're signing up, alright? Yeah, that's crazy. We're looking for the floor. Stop putting that date.

SPEAKER_04 27:15

Damn, we were supposed to go to crew style because of flip-flop at the chop. Stop. I'm looking for the five.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

Where I go in.

SPEAKER_04 27:23

5K is on June 6th. That's at but what time?

SPEAKER_01 27:28

June 6th.

SPEAKER_04 27:28

It says it's 1730. So that's what?

SPEAKER_01 27:31

That's 5.

SPEAKER_04 27:32

It's 5 30 p.m.

SPEAKER_01 27:33

Fuck no.

SPEAKER_04 27:34

We're probably planning for the and no.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

I mean, I could run and then go to flip-flop.

unknown 27:38

Nah, short.

SPEAKER_04 27:39

Imagine, imagine you you mess up your knee, you're spaying apple.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

Why would you say that? Whoa, whoa. There's Mash in Montana for real. So yeah, you're right. I gotta save that enter Gauman there. For the energy man himself.

SPEAKER_04 27:51

Okay, so let the record show you're planning on going.

SPEAKER_01 27:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:54

And then the universe was like, nah, it's all happening in the same video, y'all.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:58

Actually, we should just vlog there and then we'll keep vlogging at the we'll start there.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

Like, boop. Okay, let's go to flip-flop.

SPEAKER_04 28:08

So that's him. Alright. Well, we're not going to, we're gonna, we're not going to Kyle Lemerath. We're not. We'll do it next. We'll find another one to do.

Upcoming Guests And Listener Questions

SPEAKER_01 28:16

But we do, guys, we do want to let y'all know though. We have like a lot of interesting people that have been confirming um to be on the show.

SPEAKER_04 28:22

Should we at least mention like um can you mention two from next week? Since they can look forward to it.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

Fine.

SPEAKER_04 28:29

We got what's it conservation? The damn it, don't make me don't help me out here. The Aruba Conservation Foundation.

SPEAKER_02 28:40

Hey!

SPEAKER_04 28:42

Aseya. I don't even know, but those people, those people, they always protect the Shoko and stuff. There's a little Shoka next, like Shoka nest near my house. I drive by every day, and I always slow down, lower the windows. It's like always a family of six. Yeah, they don't play. And it's like it's them, and there's a dog. No, no, no. The dog sleeps next to them. There's two dogs. So it's literally in front of a house of an older couple, and you literally see the shoka just either chilling. So I think unveranda. They have a little um wooden like hacky, and they one of the big ones just chill there, and the guy's about we're just cherished, and the guy's just sitting here eating, and the owl just chilling there. Stay hold there. Or he's or they have uh uh it's above ground, and two of the owls chilling there and they so they're feeding the owls.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

No way, okay. You can't say that. I don't think that's allowed.

SPEAKER_04 29:38

Whatever, like, I don't know.

unknown 29:41

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 29:42

You can't? I don't know. What about the final next week? Because I don't know. And um and it's always like a six, like a family house. You see all of them like sticking their head out, like moving around. Oh, that's so cute. Honestly, it's super cool to watch because usually you see them on the road, you drive by, they fly away. They're so used to the cars passing by. Yeah, they're just chilling. The dog sleeping next to dogs sleeping next to them, they're also mega old dogs, they're probably dying.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

They're they're local shocose.

SPEAKER_04 30:07

Super cool to watch, super, super cool. And uh, another guest we're having is Rona Costa. If you don't know who she is, she's the I think he's the original no filter. She says what's on her mind, and she doesn't give a fuck. Like la to leck. Never did, never will. He's from Batibliki. If you know the the articles that she pulls out, all those blogs, yes. So the lady she founded Batibliki, and she did a lot of other things in Aruba that I feel like a lot of people don't know, like the the hospital clowns and stuff. She started a whole initiative as well. So she did a lot of things in Aruba that people don't know. And she's been around for a very, very long time. So we're also interviewing her next week. So if you have any questions, Musa Kaba, Instagram DM us, no filtering paradise, boss pregunta, so we can ask these people.

SPEAKER_01 30:54

We're gonna post it. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You'll be good. Y'all be good.

SPEAKER_04 30:57

I think anything else besides my really weird beginning of the conversation that we had.

Dolphin Photo Controversy And Nature

SPEAKER_01 31:01

That was wild. Um, I think a big story that we saw this week, because y'all know we always gotta like slap something up in there. People weren't too happy with um, yeah, they were not too happy with our purpose and eastern Mike Emana the Dolphin.

SPEAKER_04 31:14

Huh? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The people were mad. But why? It's because he's a politician. I'm not defending him, but I'm just saying, like, other people were also doing it. Yes, it's a PR stunt. But other people were also doing it. So that's also Does that make it right? I understand. But if you're gonna blame one person, let's let's see who else did it and let's put them on the spotlight too.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

I agree. Everybody should be on the spotlight, but I think what I think why people are upset is because they just put put out a post and say, everybody, please leave the dolphin. The dolphin is in distress, yada yada, yada. Everybody please back up, back up, back up, back up, back up.

unknown 31:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:52

Okay, fine. Why would you go in the water now and go take a picture with a dolphin when the foundation just said everybody please back up, back up? True. And now the foundation, even y'all are looking a little bit ridiculous because y'all said don't do it, but here y'all go letting him do it. Yeah, but at the end of the like, he's not f is he gonna help fix the dolphin? Is the dolphin gonna get better now because he his hands touched it? Like, I agree. I feel like humans fuck over nature more than it's needed. If anything, like nature was thriving without us until we fucking decided to jump the wood.

SPEAKER_04 32:25

Chop the wood, chop the wood, build up the rocks.

SPEAKER_01 32:28

I mean, it's so many things that we're doing.

SPEAKER_04 32:30

Like, I agree. All the so many UTV, so many water sports, all of that all oil going to the water, gasoline going to the water, not a sunblock going to the water, like all that really kills the whole fishing nets, lines, everything, yeah. At what point do you stop? Like, look at Bonair, but it's so dope. Shark with scuba diving.

SPEAKER_01 32:54

I legit went. That was literally it.

SPEAKER_04 32:56

I think it's a vlog coming out soon, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 32:58

It was awesome. But shit like that, like you see the the difference with hey, you know what? Let's actually take care of our island, let's take care of nature versus photo ops.

SPEAKER_04 33:10

So that's one thing he got heat for. Another thing he just got hit for recently is the picture he took with the girl in Holland.

SPEAKER_01 33:17

She was saying, Oh, shout out to Shadi. Sharisia, yes. Oh, I'm so proud of her.

SPEAKER_04 33:25

I know her from popcorn.

SPEAKER_01 33:26

Yeah, she's yeah, she's a dedicated popcorn dancer. Let's get it.

SPEAKER_04 33:30

Okay. So apparently she got heat for that too, because he put his hand on her leg. I'm just like, okay, first of all, map just like see an opportunity. Let's spin this story and blow this up. Every opportunity they get, file the ying, file to bash. I don't know what that whole kodoo is about. I know what's about the private jets. Like what's the fucking deal? Months. It's been months. Like, what's the what's the end goal here? Oh my god. It's like it's the same shit every fucking time. Like, move the fuck on.

SPEAKER_01 34:21

They're both the same way though. Because if it was the roles were reversed, they would have dragged that shit on the same way. That's the thing with them. They're all the same shit. I'm sick of all of them honestly doing the same bullshit.

SPEAKER_04 34:32

Like, I'm really curious for the next for next election. I know it's like, I don't know what, two years, three years away. They may have to go beyond the wand, huh?

SPEAKER_01 34:39

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 34:39

But I feel like I feel like I wonder what's gonna happen. If it's like if seeing how Matt behaves now is so annoying, they're always complaining about something. I like how I always go back, like for example, like Dongi. He used to make those videos goes goes in supermarkets. I'm like, but you were eight years empowered, like it's like going to the gym. It takes years and proper this, proper that. So maybe the prices today are things that you know you planted years ago and now you reap what you sow. So maybe this is an effect of when you were in in power compared to now. So I'm just like going sideways here. But that's me coming.

SPEAKER_01 35:27

I mean, listen, they're in opposition. Yeah, this is what opposition does. This is their job. They're picking point. At this point, it's like, are we gonna continue giving food to opposition? Or are we gonna focus on fixing the fucking problems? Fixing the fucking problems.

Politics, Opposition, And Accountability

SPEAKER_01 35:45

Because again, I remember saying this when we were during election. I was like, guys, I don't give a fuck who you vote for. Just as long as you vote. Yeah, whoever you vote for, make sure we hold them accountable. Yeah, okay. These are people that some of us voted for, some of us did not vote for them. But they are making rules now for the way we are going to live for the next few years. So, with that being said, we can't just be like, I'm in a vote. Okay, man. I was not in agreement with this, pero what are we gonna do about this problem? How are we gonna fix it? And I feel like the community needs just really needs to come together in order for this to happen. Because right now, everybody's just on, well, I have a personal benefit. Oh, well, I know this person, so I'm not gonna go every camp hard or I'm not gonna. No, we can't be on that. Like, too fucking bad. You wanted this job, you got this job. Let's fucking focus on this now. Bang pe bang tra ha. I'ma call you out on your bullshit. If opposition is calling out things, then let's see what they're calling out, what makes sense, and what doesn't make sense. Because they're they're clearly they're calling things out. So some of it has to make sense for us, and some of it is just like, okay, this is just political. What are they calling out like? They're supposed, they're supposed to be calling out everything.

SPEAKER_04 36:59

I still see hope for things popping up. I still see the private jet popping up, I still see prices about pricing. I'm trying to think what else. It's always they're just repeating the same things.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

They're supposed again, that is their job. That is opposition's job. We you vote, we we vote for them in that position to legit poke holes, figure out, ask questions that we don't have the time and the put the possibilities to ask.

SPEAKER_04 37:21

So now the question becomes if the I agree that their job is to like check a minister now of like hey, punta pregunta. But like now, are you asking questions for the benefit of Aruba, or are you asking questions to fuck over your pol um that political party?

SPEAKER_01 37:38

That is for the people that fucking voted for you to answer that. Yeah, you voted for them. Hey, hey, uh, I understand, but hey, Villin, I'm a votap, but it's not a thing over the Asaki, and not over the Asaki. That is what your job as uh fucking taxpayer is to do. You voted for that person, you're supposed to text that person and be like, hey, me awake confidence in the prince kwa kabi pasa. But arguing over this thing for like 30 whole fucking minutes. At no point did y'all talk about these topics. What the fuck happened? Why are you not talking about these things? That is what the community's job is.

SPEAKER_00 38:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:12

That's why we're supposed to normalize fucking who did you vote for? It's not a secret. If you voted for these person, hold them accountable. Hey, mawak boom minister, akta bibi saku. Is that how you feel about life? No, you don't feel that way. Okay, well, you're supposed to like question the person you voted for because this is how they're representing your vote. They're representing you. That you're that number. You are one of the numbers in that tal that made them become whatever they are right now. So, what are you gonna do about your position, even if it's a minister or if it's a whatever? Whoever you voted for, you're supposed to question that person. And so is the rest of the island. We're supposed to question every single decision y'all decide to make with our money.

SPEAKER_04 38:58

That's and going back to about our money, yes. That's why I like Carlos Gaimo's approach of like having everything website, nothing number the persona, but manera 50 mil by football. But what they do with that, like maybe doing breakdown, they kick a compra, but not you don't see people's salary. Like it's going to pay this person, this person, this person. You don't see how much they get how much they make. But at least like I hand the walk on a package sports, tourismo, buying infrastructure of beauty. I'm I'm ready anytime now, but they walk dangate post um Bushiri Beach.

Transparency, Ambulance Costs, And Wrap

SPEAKER_01 39:52

Speaking of dang we though, he did text me about the ambulance thing. Remember we asked him about the ambulance? Yeah, last week. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:58

We were curious to know if you didn't saw the last episode danghi. Kikuta a price pating ungambulance na rua. What did he say?

SPEAKER_01 40:06

Okay, so he said, Dose taota double, mas grandi, dos normal. A normal tauta kosta 6 mil i e grandi un million.

SPEAKER_04 40:19

Okay, damn. So dollar flooding.

SPEAKER_01 40:27

Curious, because I'm not going to be able to do it. I think flooding, because he said. Okay, so I was million flooring.

SPEAKER_04 40:31

Okay, so I was close. I did say like around five, six hundred thousand dollars for one. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

That's for the normal ones. Yeah, yeah. Not the big ones. So the bigger ones are more expensive.

SPEAKER_04 40:41

Although we're talking shit, shout out to all the politicians that keep tabs with us, like Sinus Mano Pregunta and the Cundestanos, because at the end of the day, we always want to get some facts rights.

SPEAKER_01 40:49

We're not here again, we're not here to pick no motherfucking size. We don't. The reality is what it is.

SPEAKER_04 40:56

Everybody, it doesn't matter the color of the fucking party. They all sit here and we all have a conversation. We all grill them, we all ask tough questions. Questions you guys say.

SPEAKER_01 41:04

And we all have to live with the decisions that they make. Yeah, so what the fuck are you gonna do? Make enemies with these people? No, bitch. Y'all gonna sit the fuck here. We're gonna become fucking friends, and y'all gonna fucking, if I see something I don't like, I'm gonna text y'all motherfuckers. Yo, what is this? What the fuck are y'all busy with? True. Who is that for? Yeah. Like, don't piss me off, y'all. Don't piss me off. Because I'm really ready to fight all of y'all.

SPEAKER_04 41:29

Okay, let's let's end it here before Shark gets even more pissed.

SPEAKER_01 41:31

Yeah, please.

SPEAKER_04 41:32

But um, hey, put it political nung, you guys always always know you guys are always welcome to come on the show. Sit down and give your side of the story of whatever you want to talk about. You know, say whatever you want. Use us our platform to say whatever you want, but we have questions if you do say shit. Um, Baba, I think that's what I'm the bull.

SPEAKER_01 41:50

Yeah, and we all I feel like we have to do the the the the other people as well. Oh, mental.

SPEAKER_04 41:55

Yeah, yeah, like the the newer ones, like bring them between the gulu again.

SPEAKER_01 41:59

So long, we didn't, we really didn't.

SPEAKER_04 42:01

Let's set it up because the politician season is around the corner.

SPEAKER_01 42:05

It's right around the corner. So that's what I'm saying. Like, we really have to get these done. I think after curacao.

SPEAKER_04 42:10

Yeah. Uh we have to plan well because we also have Holland in the works. Guys, a lot of a lot of shit coming this year.

SPEAKER_01 42:19

Maybe the solo episodes of my head just have to get like a little bit pushed on the side. I don't know. We'll see.

SPEAKER_04 42:24

We'll figure it out. Yeah. So we got we got curious, Holland, and if you guys don't know, every November and December we post political episodes. Is basically season Yama Kika Bahasi Ayanki. So Kiko Bali look at Ayanki. So we're gonna track back 2026, Mike Kibahasi, Bahafi, Toshi El Fain, um, Khalin Kibahasi. Everybody, everybody, everybody, let's see. Baba Kibahasi. So that's it, guys. We're gonna end it here. Um, we'll see you next week. Peace. Ayo, and