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We Went to Flip Flop Festival… One Artist Completely Dominated | EP 246

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A festival can have huge artists, giant screens, and millions of streams… but none of that matters if the performance doesn’t connect.

Fresh off Flip Flop Festival, we're breaking down everything: the performances, the crowd energy, the food, the content-creator struggle, and the artists who actually owned the night.

🎤 Why Machel Montano reminded everyone what true stage presence looks like
🔥 Tsunami's high-energy set and crowd engagement
🎶 Groove Masters' new era and rebrand
🤔 Why Spotify numbers don't always translate to the best live show
📹 The challenge of creating content while trying to enjoy the moment
🍔 Food reviews, festival feedback, and ideas for next year

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Cold Open Festival Hot Takes

SPEAKER_04

Guys, this is the first time I am enjoying flip-flop from the other end.

SPEAKER_03

Have to just be very honest. Wow. I thought I was gonna be the bad one today. Like it was different, but it wasn't my taste.

SPEAKER_01

Like, yeah, you're not very cultural. Because you don't do carnival or anything like that, so you wouldn't really enjoy something like that for a long time. That is something that normally would open the parade. So you're just like, uh Wow, I don't never ask me to MC again. I had so much fun. They are, it's done. That band is gone. That's what I'm telling you. That's done. The group does not exist for like I don't know how many years now. Tsunami for me, I mean it's on the radio. We've been giving them shit. Oh fuck boy.

SPEAKER_02

Like, I don't know, I didn't even know what he was singing.

SPEAKER_03

On and on, he was mumbling, he was definitely drunk. As I was leaving, he was kicked out, he was outside. Oh, they kicked him out out. Yeah, yeah, kicked him out. And I told you, I hope I shall play this before Mike Towers. He's gonna bring the energy up here. And then, yes, Mike Towers, probably more known, probably has more Spotify listeners, whatever. He outperformed my opinion, outperformed Mike Towers.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like he was very like minimum with everything. Like you already had no dancers. So, in my opinion, the local bands already outperformed you.

SPEAKER_04

Back for I was gonna mention Tsunami and yo,

Welcome Back Flip Flop Weekend

SPEAKER_04

what's up?

SPEAKER_03

Hello, chemisters. Guys, welcome back to the ABC Islands Fairy Podcast. No filter in Paraíso. A show about anything and everything between two friends. One is straight and the other Your favorite chocolate homosexual babies. Alright, guys, so today we're back in another episode. Um, obviously the weekend is over, which means flip-flop is over. It is, it is flip-flop festival. If you haven't gone, you missed out. If you did go, you had a great time. So um, I think this this this episode is gonna be just about flip-flop today. And before I jump into that one, I want to give a shout out to Chris. Thank you. Thank you very much. I was very concerned at the radio when I said you pull up with yours, I was like, there's no way I'm not gonna get one. And then I didn't hear anything from him, and I didn't, and then I found out it sold out. I was like, there's no way I'm gonna get one anymore. And then at the festival, you pulled up, like, hey Chris, something that won't pass you. Thank you. You're so stupid. I do need the cream one. The beige one or cream one? What I don't know. You know which one I'm talking about? Mm-hmm. That's the one, the only one I'm missing. So I'm crazy.

SPEAKER_01

I got all, so I know I know which one you're talking about.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, well, I that was like a low, that was like a a low blow. Either way, just saying, I need I need that one. So if anybody has one, don't give it to me. I need a brand new one because I'm not gonna wear secondhand stuff. Either

Getting There Too Early

SPEAKER_03

way, guys, so um let's talk about um flip-flop. Let's get into it. Me and Shark, we were there all day. Um, we got there at 6 30. We've learned that we're not doing that again next year. Ever. Ever. We went the intention of making a vlog. And sometimes things don't go as planned. Okay, that's why we learned. We're gonna leave that part for the vlog itself, but yeah, definitely not going at 6 30 in the in the, I was gonna say in the morning. 6 30 in the app. Guys, we just did a heavy workout, so we're a little bit exhausted.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, but just I'm just thinking about that, like just that in general. That day, it was long. It was like 6 30, yeah, and then it's all the preparation before 6 30. So it's like all day, you're just running around doing a bunch of things, and then it's like, oh shit. By the time you want to relax, you're like, oh, it's almost time to start leaving the house and get ready. So sun's up and you're getting dressed. Like, what the fuck is this? So you gotta flip flop. Something that you would normally go to like as a local, like 11 a.m. or 11 p.m. or something.

Machel Montano Steals The Night

SPEAKER_03

So what was your big what was your biggest uh takeaway from the festival this year?

SPEAKER_01

My biggest takeaway from the festival. Um, I it would have to be Masha's performance. I think I've never I've never seen him. I grew up on him. So to get that experience and that the fact that Aruba didn't disappoint, based off of what I was.

SPEAKER_03

I I was looking at him and then like, cool. You see me. I turn I I tried to record. I turned around. Okay, everybody's hands. When he said I didn't see those hands up, like you better put your fucking hands up.

SPEAKER_01

I was I was pleasantly surprised with Aruba, Danke, Mi Pueblo. Like, y'all didn't disappoint. Last year y'all did. They did, they've embarrassed us. So I was pleasantly surprised with this one. It to me it was real, it was great. I I had a good time.

SPEAKER_03

Good, good. I'm I probably have the same thing, but um, we're probably gonna dive a little bit more into that. Um, Masha Mutano. But um what was your highlight? Same. Like it's just this is part of the discussion we're gonna have later. It's like he wasn't just for me, it he wasn't singing, he was performing. Like it was just like and I kept looking, and I kept looking at going to again, like no breaks. He like he just doesn't stop. There was never I don't think there was ever like a a 60-second quietness or just like him just like yapping. Music was just like playing from the moment he came on stage all the way till he was off the stage, like non-stop. And I can't say the same about Mike Towers.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Ramiro even was like, Does this guy have like one bad song? Like when is it stop? Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And I think it's I didn't know I didn't know this guy. Um give me a second. I just remember something.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I feel I feel the same as Ramido.

SPEAKER_03

Like I did not know who Marshal Mandano was. My name. Obviously, I know his songs, like two or three songs, like yeah, yeah, yeah. And sometimes when you have an artist come in, you're like, you just know, like, okay, I'm I know these two three songs, and I'm gonna have a good time when he plays those two, three songs. Shark, this from beginning to end, like Ramiro saying, like, there was even if I didn't know the song, the energy I was getting, he was right in front of us, like and and the dancers were like, bro, I'm like, I'm looking around, everyone's having a good time. It's just it's it's like so much, I don't want to say positive energy, but it's that.

SPEAKER_01

It's I don't have words for it, but that it's that. That is what a great performer does. Oh my god. That is what the Michael Jackson's, the Beyoncés, this is Bruno Mars. This is what they do. They give you a freaking show, dancers, performance, like energy. That's what it's about. It's not about you can just go on and just like sing because you got hits. No, fuck a hit. No, you need to have classics under your belt. You need to know how to move people, read the crowd and play like that eye contact that you make it within your crowd with every single person. It's weird, but you have to do it. It's so weird.

SPEAKER_03

It's like for for the crowd.

SPEAKER_01

It's weird to say because they're like, How are you gonna make eye contact with all the people?

SPEAKER_03

But it's like it for those people who you're looking at, and if you're looking at a person and they you acknowledge them, you know how good they're gonna feel like, hey, we're looking at me. He's looking at me, you know, like on me personally, but like the person who's making eye contact with the guy. But it's it's you can see such a big difference between Marshal Montana and Mike Towers. Yes, I saw people saying for sure. People were saying, like, yeah, but Mike, Mike, Mike Towers is more known. He's like the bigger artist. Yeah, but he's an urban hip-hop rapper. I'm like, what does that mean? I don't give a fuck what that means.

SPEAKER_01

Like, but no, as in in the context that they were still telling you this, but it is.

SPEAKER_03

Obviously, like he's not gonna come, like the music vibe is different, the energy is different, the like the energy he's portraying on his face.

SPEAKER_01

Anybody that wants to say that, I would have to say that's some bullshit because look at what Rich Kalash did. He had dancers, he gave a whole show, he gave up for Heath Wave. So that's very unfair to an assessment to give because who's more urban than Rich Kalash? Yeah, very true. He's a whole motherfucking gangster. I didn't I didn't even go to the show, and he gave us a motherfucking show, dancers, performers, even outfit changes. Rich was even at the at the festival too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that just goes to say so that is a bullshit excuse. And we've seen other rappers do big shows, they have dancers, they so that is bullshit. Like they ever he said it on me. Yeah, I definitely said it.

SPEAKER_03

I own it. But let's let's backtrack a little bit. Before obviously,

Opening Acts That Set The Bar

SPEAKER_03

we had the headliners, but before that we had other performers as well. Like I want to talk about them. Um, what was your take on tsunami?

SPEAKER_01

Oof, tsunami was fantastic. I agree. First of all, the reggae band before that. Yeah, yeah. Okay, like Roots Eye, I think they were called. I don't remember. I can't remember the name right now. Neither. Okay, but there was a reggae band from San Nicolas, I think. They were they gave good show, good energy. Yeah, there wasn't a lot of people there, clearly, but they were really good. And then back to now tsunami.

SPEAKER_03

Wait, wait, I want to go back to the reggae. Because like I remember the first song that came out, I was like, Whoa, what is going on? I didn't know what to expect, and I was a little thrown off. Maybe there was an intro, but like the second song came on and the vibe kind of changed a little bit.

SPEAKER_01

And then from there it was good. They were good. I enjoy them, I really enjoy them. So then tsunami came on.

SPEAKER_03

Obviously, there's DJs as well. Of course, but like tsunami came on. I thought tsunami, I even told you that like, wow, they I thought Shinton as well when I saw them. Like, you guys did a great performance. Um and I was asking myself like why it's because like they were also singing a lot of well-known popular songs, like Bad Bunny, and I can't think of other songs right now, but uh, they were they were doing cover songs, but like the and it's almost like I don't want to compare to Montano, but like it's the same kind of vibe of like high energy, don't stop, keep going, switching up the vibes, thinking turns with singing, being in front, like really performing more than just I'm trying to sing, you know.

SPEAKER_01

So I'll I I did like uh tsunami for me. I mean, on table X on the radio, we've been giving them shit. Oh fuck, why? Oh yeah, why we've been definitely giving them well we we keep it honest because we've been saying just like tsunami has not been tsunami that we've known for the few the past few years. Why? Because no originals, not not. They do, they do, they do, they do, they do. They were talking about carnival, of course. Okay, but it's just that I don't know, it was something was missing from them, like they just were performing like a bit defeated. And I feel like last like flip-flop, tsunami is back. Yeah, I feel like they definitely gave, they were always known for being an all-around band, they could do it all, and they show that they legit show that, and they gave the band a moment to shine, which is what you do as a band. The performers, all of the the band members came out and they performed together, they did different medlies, they brought everybody on the stage. A smart thing that you always have to do, and I say this to all the time on the radio, is like, especially when you're a band and performing, you have to understand how to give everybody their highlights. And in order to keep people engaged, after every few songs or original songs, or a few songs that people don't know, you have to drop something that everybody knows just to get people back to that vibe. Like, okay, you don't know me, but I'm pretty sure you know this one.

SPEAKER_03

So let me give you this, and I'll give you my rope you back, you'll rope you back in.

SPEAKER_01

Like, yeah, uh, we'll be back, and they did that. So the dancers, Kevin. Wow, Kevin is the guy you tell me, like, yeah. Yeah, okay. Oh my god. I even told her, like, wait, who are these dancers? I've never I've never seen them before. No, they did, they did, they always dance for tsunami. Yeah, Kevin actually he used to live here. He went to Holland, he studied like arts and all this good stuff, and then now he's back, he's like a uh a teacher, he gives school like uh dance and all this good stuff. So shout out to them for sure, for sure. And yeah, no, tsunami definitely did their bigger for sure.

SPEAKER_03

Next one, we had the brass band. Didn't hate it, didn't love it either. I'm sorry, and that wasn't really my particular taste.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, no, no, yeah, was it that's the the the musical genre if it's not mistaken? It's a massive international band or something like that. Massive brass band, I think. That one. Sorry if I messed it up, Agent Saudi. But no, um, I enjoyed it. Like it was different, but uh it wasn't my taste, like yeah, you're not very cultured, but yeah, because you don't do carnival or anything like that, so you wouldn't really enjoy something like that for a long time. At some point, it would just get annoying for you. But we that like carnival, like that is something that normally would open the parade. So you're just like I enjoy, I love a good brass band. So I like how they they flip-flop this year, they gave a little bit of everything. They did.

SPEAKER_03

So I feel like flip-flop has getting better and better in the past few years. Like in terms of like now it's a two-day festival. Now they put a rig artist, uh soccer artist, and reggae tongue artists like it's it's like that. I think flip-flop is like very diverse. I think uh throughout the whole year, I think flip-flop is like the festival of the whole year in a way.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like it it definitely made its name back to that for sure.

SPEAKER_03

All right, so let's make must move on to your favorite groove masters.

Groove Masters And The Rebrand

SPEAKER_01

The Banner Year.

SPEAKER_03

Let me hear.

SPEAKER_01

I think okay. So to me, I feel like they were exceptional. I love that they had dancers, I love that they did all of that as well. Um, I have to just be very honest.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. I thought I was gonna be the bad one today, like, because I wasn't very I wasn't really honest. I wasn't really much paying attention. Not paying attention. I started, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I just like zoned out because I feel like look, I remember we had a conversation about um Groove Masters and how like it's a specified specific niche, but you have to love Groove Masters and their kind of music or their original music in order for you to enjoy them. If you don't like them, you just it's it's a miss.

SPEAKER_01

So the thing is with them, I feel like this time, this go-around, what happened is they are now in a transition where they are performing new original music. So that is still new to people. They're releasing an album and they're now they're releasing one soon, or now they're actually releasing an album. So they just released like three new songs. Okay, three of those new songs got performed. Plus, they just performed some of the songs that they released this year for Carnival. So they also played those. So a lot of the music is fairly new. They didn't play any original music or barely any original music from the known band, which is Le Groove. Yeah. So what's the difference between Le Groove and the Groove Masters? Everything. I mean, the the some of the people stayed the same, pero the sound is pretty much, I guess, the kind of the same. But they just switched up on concept and they just rebranded completely.

SPEAKER_03

So it's like Jaeon, Jonathan Thiel, and Biggie Boy. I mean, they all have different kinds of sounds, but not in the street.

SPEAKER_01

I wanna kinda I wanna uh yeah, yeah and no. So again, yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Definitely rebranded. Well, one thing I do is I did like the like the little stories in between.

SPEAKER_01

Like production-wise, that was they ate that the fuck up.

SPEAKER_03

I did like I like that one. That was very different compared to everybody else. Like, listen, how they started was like a story. I'm like, that's how they got me invested in the beginning.

SPEAKER_00

Oh fuck, they were the keyboard. Listen, listen.

SPEAKER_01

And that's why I told you about the rebranding, because that was some of the clips were from like their Le Groove days, or like even when Le Groove was a different band back then, it was Texadamax and all these. So they played like clips from all of those to show you the transition to where they are today as the new brand and where they are, where they're going in the new sound. Now that they have Tiedrik as well, yeah on the team.

SPEAKER_03

So I didn't even know that I heard Tiedrik.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, what? He's he's been on the band with the band for now, like I think I want to say like over a year going on tour. Okay. So they're in a they're in a different transition. This is the first time they're gonna release an album and do all these type of things. So interesting.

SPEAKER_03

They're in a very whole new thing. Usually you might think that you might hear from them like only around Carnival time. Correct. And then so to drop an album outside of Carnival is like we we know you're here because carnival time, carnival ends. We don't hear that much from you now. We have an album, so we can keep hearing you throughout the whole year. So when carnival comes around, you are even bigger because now it's carnival, plus, we love your new album. That's good. I didn't know they were dropping an album. We should have them on the show, let them talk about it.

SPEAKER_01

That's the transition that they're in right now with like the different sounds that you're hearing, the different members of the band. So it kind of felt like getting to meet a new band from the band that we know. Because we know we like we love the Le Groove music. So now we have to get used to like the Groove Masters sound and music, like what they're about. But Le Groove is not gone, right? They are, it's done. That band is gone. That's what I'm telling you. That's done. The groove does not exist for like I don't know how many years now. It's Groove Masters. People keep saying Le Groove all the time, but it's Groove Masters. That's the band.

SPEAKER_03

I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01

They're not about pink anymore. They're orange is their color. Like, so they had like a whole brand.

SPEAKER_03

What are you, orange for life now?

SPEAKER_01

Or yeah, we don't even say we don't even say that. We don't even say pink, yeah. We don't say pink for life no more. Like, that was like that's the old like the groove slogan. Like, that's done. Why orange though? Orange economy? No, I can't. I would they they would have to let shit up and tell you.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, well, guys, um you're probably watching. If you are, come on the show. Let's talk about this new album. Let's talk about the rebranding, let's talk about why you did this, struggles.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, clearly you have questions. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I do.

SPEAKER_01

Let's do it.

DJs MCs And No Work Stress

SPEAKER_00

I do do it.

SPEAKER_03

All right, so I want to give a shout out to the DJs and the MCs and night, Ty, Chris. You guys killed it as always. Good job. You guys uh did really, really well. Any any thoughts on the DJs? And I think DJ did a great job this year. I enjoyed it. I think everything this year, maybe there were moments where I was eating and zoned the fuck out. But like, I think everything this year went very, very smoothly on time.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I feel like I can't lie, it was a it was good.

SPEAKER_03

I want to get uh just just hit me. Guys, this is the first time I am enjoying flip-flop from the other end. I know. I just like I told you, I'm like, wow, I don't ever ask me to MC again. I had so much fun. I mean, we went for the intention of like making the vlog, creating content, having fun. Um, and there's another topic I want to talk about as well about content and people who go in like make content or like actually like have a good time. But this is the first time like I've went to flip-flop and like no stress, no have a thing. None of that stuff, and I had a great, great time.

SPEAKER_01

That's why I was like, Um, how long is this vlog gonna be? Yeah. I know how I am. That's why I don't take on work. I tell people, no, respectfully, no, I'm not doing it. I don't want you can keep your money. When I go out, I'm going out to have a great time.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I had a great time. I didn't even last long, I just left like through the like I didn't even reach halfway through Mike Tower's performance. I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I was about to say, you lasted very long. From we were there from 6 30.

SPEAKER_03

Like, yeah, I think I left at 2 30.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's that's extremely and respectfully, you didn't really match most. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So MC's a good day, DJs did good.

SPEAKER_01

The DJs did really good for sure, for sure. I enjoyed them.

SPEAKER_03

Um, sorry, I had a little topic over here that I wanted

Content Creation Versus Being Present

SPEAKER_03

to bring up. The content creation. Yeah, so like obviously, like I just said, like we went, we went with a different mission for this flip-flop. Like, obviously, we went to the intent of making content, not really actually both, but more content creation and then focus on that stuff. So I don't even know where I was gonna go with. I just lost much of your time. I was like, yeah, your face is like what's going on? Sorry, sorry. Does so does creating content actually take away or prevent you from fully enjoying the festival? Yes, I agree. I would like to be able to do that. We lately experienced it this past weekend. Because we're in the we're like we're timing it like with Mashall's schedule, like, okay, sorry, we have to go record this now because he's gonna come on on and by I'm not even the biggest soaker person, but I was there for him. And I remember telling Shark, like, hey, listen, we got like 20 fucking minutes. Let's go. Let's go, let's go get these videos and then come back to the front as soon as possible. But it does take away because you're not fully immersed in the experience, you're not fully enjoying with your friends. It's like you have a good time. Hey, we took everything back sort of you like yourself.

SPEAKER_01

And to me, like the the the peak of performances is the last song. That's the that's the that is the break. That is the And that's the part we have to walk away. All the confetti going out. Yeah, I know that is how you end a concert, and the fact that we had to like go try to fucking get an interview, like Yeah, we I'm like Shark is Shark look at the clock, it's five minutes.

SPEAKER_03

I'm sorry, we have to go. I know how you feel. It's the climax, it's the it's the it's it's the end. It really was that and we were like running, and this is one girl walking super slow with her friend. Like, I was like, bitch, move. And I'm like, get move. We gotta go. We had the cat.

SPEAKER_01

I find out if we did an interview. Can't tell you. Yeah. But it was it was really great. But I do think content creation does take away from it. And I think you have to have like an idea of what you're gonna do to just say, for instance, like, hey, you know what? I want to get two reels out of this, out of the night.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Because you also have to like now, I I also this is something that I think about, and I also was talking to like my videographer about it. Is that I want to come up with like different concepts when I go out to do content because I feel like everybody does the same thing now. Like, all of the editors are editing the same type of edits for everybody. They're working with different people and they're doing the same thing for everybody. So everybody has the same content, uploading the same thing. And I'm thinking for like the guest experience, from different aspects. But you're like, how many interviews are we gonna do in a fucking concert? Like, get out of my face, people. Like, that would be me. Because I know how that is when I go out and people are like, hey Shaq, let's get put up. You're like, just see good. Hey, hey Shaq, hey ta-ta-ta! Like, here's another one. Let's do it. I want that.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That is also taken away from the experience because like you're in this, even if the DJ's playing. Like, I mean, how do you know I can come for the DJ?

SPEAKER_03

True.

SPEAKER_01

And now you want to be asking me a question now. I'm like, fuck, man.

SPEAKER_03

You know what? Like, I don't, I don't mind. Like, I think what we would never, not I won't say never, but I'll definitely not do next time, is vlog.

SPEAKER_01

No, for sure not.

SPEAKER_03

We would go in with like, okay, we're gonna make three to four key reels based on specific topics, quick questions, whatever, whatever, whatever, and then we're done. And then you and you know, like these each reels will take about 15-20 minutes at most, and then you're done. With vloggers, like you have to be constantly moving because you can't stay in the same spot the entire time, otherwise the vlog becomes fucking boring. So um, but guys, this is this is the one part of the festival that shocked me the most, and I was like blown away. I

Meeting Shark’s Mom By Accident

SPEAKER_03

couldn't believe this happened, and that's meeting Shark's mom. I'm like, I was like, okay, so we were making a video for XFM, right? I had no idea. I could have picked anybody, any fucking person I could have picked. And I see two ladies standing there, like, oh, let me go let me ask these ladies. And we're doing a little video for XFM. Shout out to Jamie Lee. And I walk over, excuse me. Hey, welcome to Festival Crimes. I got some questions. Guys, I haven't drank in four months, and I had a few drinks that night. I was you were you were lit. I was live.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not gonna lie. Energetic. But I let me just say before you continue with the story, I really enjoyed seeing you come back into like that element, and not the element of you hosting, but you just like legit and like genuinely enjoying. I feel like you were very hyped, you were very broke.

SPEAKER_03

I was having a good, I was holding back a little bit too. But the dancer was like, no, no, I'm good.

SPEAKER_01

On the inside, I'm like a little bit. I was like, You could have you could do that, not me.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, sorry, continue.

SPEAKER_03

Guys, I met I met Shark's mom in the most unexpected way out of everybody for the approach to interview for ex-feminist little questions. I woke, hey, excuse me, blah blah blah. We're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking. I ask her questions, answering the questions, very cool, going back and forth. And I guess somebody like, oh, you know my mom. Oh, right, know you. She's very subtle. I'm Shark's mom. My reaction, wait, what? What? And I see Shark like Chuck comes over, like, that's my mom. Yo, I was blown away. I was surprised. I did not think that that's the way I'm gonna be meeting your mom at a festival of all places. Guys, mind you, we've been doing this podcast for six years. Legit. I have never met his mom. Legit. He's never met mine. I'm sorry, Priscilla. He hasn't apologized yet. Just letting me know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, both of y'all wait on that apology.

SPEAKER_03

You and my mom. No, I that it was so funny, bro. And Shark is like, what was your end of the story? Because you were you were taking pictures, like, I'm looking at you, but your phone like Yeah, because I'm like back there.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, whatever. And I'm looking over, I'm like, wait. First of all, I'm thinking, like, Sam is so annoying. Why would he go over to just my mom? Out of all people, he goes to just my mom to do this damn interview. So I'm like, whatever. And I'm looking, I'm like, then I'm starting to think, I'm like, but wait, he doesn't know my mom. Like, he talks to her on the phone, like on XFM, like when we do the stupid stuff like that, but like, he don't know how she looks. So I'm like, oh, he has zero idea. This is her. I was like, two little ladies standing by the like, bro, they're early. Let me just take some photos real quick. I was like, oh, okay, like that.

SPEAKER_03

You texting me this this morning.

SPEAKER_01

So I said, I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna just wait for y'all to flip.

SPEAKER_03

This will be a forever priceless moment. This is me. It will be. Bro, I don't know if you got it.

SPEAKER_00

It's the way y'all started hugging. I was like, who are these people? You guys can't see it, but bro, it was fucking funny. Nah, that was crazy. That was really crazy.

SPEAKER_03

I lean over, like, hey, just you know, should I never apologized?

SPEAKER_00

Did you tell her that? Yeah, you're so stupid.

SPEAKER_03

And I was like, no, I'm kidding, he did. He did apologize, guys. If you don't know the joke, you should tune in every Saturday.

SPEAKER_01

You need to be on on Saturday. We talk a lot of shit. Even though the podcast people do know about like the Mother's Day thing, so I forgot about that too, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, nah, that was really cool. That was that was a fun way to meet your mom. That was fun. That was nice. Now we're gonna bring on the show.

Stage Presence Beats Streaming Numbers

SPEAKER_03

Okay, now you're pushing it. Yeah. Is is okay back to Masha. Is is is he the king of Soka? He is. Yeah. Is like is like is Beanie Man the king of dance hall?

SPEAKER_01

Um I people would argue with you and tell you it's vibes cartel. Ooh.

SPEAKER_03

I see Chris posting a lot of vibes cartel.

SPEAKER_01

I wonder if that's a hint for I mean he's on he he was on tour, so maybe we could maybe. I'm sure he tried. It has to. His price is all the way up. He just came out of jail. Yeah, so his prices are, yeah. He like I don't know what the guy looks like, to be honest. A few people, so damn. Allegedly, I don't know how true it is. Yeah. Yeah. JA represents World Boss.

SPEAKER_03

No, so I let's talk a little bit more about um back to Umasha Matana topic about just his performance. This guy was smiling the entire show. Sweating, dancing, having a good time. His dancers were having a good time. Like, I just don't know. I don't, it's hard to put in words the vibe and energy I got from that festival. Like, I really like off that of his performance. Sorry. It it's it was so like you can't help but either smile or like some part of your body is like, it's magical.

SPEAKER_01

It's magical.

SPEAKER_03

I cut myself like this, standing like this, like smiling, and I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? Like, yo.

SPEAKER_01

Because you because again, this that that is the thing with like great performance. You have to understand this man has been doing this for ever since he was a kid, like I think six years old. He's been singing, you know, calypso music and stuff like this. He had inspirations like Michael Jackson. Yeah, so these people understand what stage presence means. It's no joke. Your stage presence, your energy, your breath control, um, eye contact, smiling while you're exhausted. But you understand that you're getting you're it's just for this this few hours. You got like one hour, an hour and a half, whatever your that performance is. And that I think this was the easiest money Mashell made, to be honest, because this man's shows normally go for like four hours or whatever. So exactly to just do this. This was like walk in the park. I'll walk in the motherfucking park.

SPEAKER_03

All my best parts and put them in there.

SPEAKER_01

It was like easy, and I'm pretty sure they even gave him like I mean, anybody that that goes on tour, you do your research as to where you're going. So they he probably also knew that Dini Riva is in. Yeah, he plays some local music, chicky licky, all the time. Wait, what? Because you have to do your research, you have to know how to bring people back in. It's part of it. So he is gonna give you all of that, showing you the smile, the the energy. Like, listen, if I'm smiling, you're gonna be smiling. It's contagious, it was good. The way he mixes music into each other, the way he gives the dancers a time so he can get his break. It like dancers, you shine, go to the front, do your big one, dance here. He used the entire stage. The entire stage. That is a great performer.

SPEAKER_03

I agree. I always and this again, I said this before. This is someone going in, having no idea who this guy was before, except for like I didn't even know before flip, like what the fuck is Marshall? At the radio, like can you play a song? I even asked, play one song because I don't know who this guy is. Like, yo, wait, this is yeah, he's Palan is also his, right?

SPEAKER_01

No, okay, no, yeah, I know again. This is uh something that you do when you go, when you have your research, you understand where you're going, who's the demographic there? Okay, so they probably won't know because he played one of his original songs that gives you the left and right field. Clearly, the people didn't get it and they didn't vibe with it all the way. So, as a great performer, what do you do? I'll give them something we all know. Same like what we said with tsunami. They gave you something everybody knows. I'll fucking play Palance. Yeah, it's the one song as the as a Caribbean. We decided like Palance is over. Stopped, please stop it, stop playing Palance. But it's one song everybody's still getting it.

SPEAKER_03

How's the crowd reacting? Is everybody gonna be gonna do it?

SPEAKER_01

They're gonna dance, of course. It's but it's it's palance, it's a it's a song you know.

SPEAKER_03

I just want to see if people go sideways.

SPEAKER_01

You have to.

SPEAKER_03

First thing I thought I thought it was Naz B's playing.

SPEAKER_01

Listen, you it's always one of his closing songs.

SPEAKER_03

That's one of the songs. So if if Masha was doing this for so long, if we went out into the general public and grabbed 100 teenagers and asked them, Do you know this next artist coming up? How many do you think would say, like, yeah? For Aruba or for Aruba? Aruba. Aruba. Like okay.

SPEAKER_01

Um out of 100. 50%, less than 50%. Okay, what sections are we talking about? Because it matters. General VIP standing, or because it matters. That's not a conversation we're gonna have as well. It matters, it matters. I feel like if you go in general and you ask them about Marshall, they're gonna know. Yeah, I feel like they will definitely know. The VIP, the VIPs, these are people I feel like you're gonna get VIP standing. I think about 75% would get would know who Marshell is. Okay. And VIP tables gets lower and lower. It it definitely would go lower.

SPEAKER_03

I only saw one going crazy.

SPEAKER_01

I would say maybe VIP tables, I would give them the benefit of the doubt of you. I know his songs, I didn't know it was him. Yeah, type of thing. So I would say people would know who it is after they hear the song, oh my god, that's him. But that they actually know who it is.

SPEAKER_03

I didn't know.

SPEAKER_01

And then again, some people actually bought just for just to see him. Some people were like, nah, he's my shit. I didn't.

SPEAKER_03

When I left at 2 30, I saw I saw a lot of people leaving. So during my Mike Towers. Yeah. So a lot of people were like, I was walking out, I was like, oh dear, like I I expected some people to leave because it's getting tired, people don't care, but I did not expect the amount of people that was leaving. But there were still a lot of people there. And I told you that's full. And I told you, like, I hope Masha plays before Mike Towers, because I said I he's gonna bring the energy up here, and then yes, Mike Towers probably more known, probably has more Spotify um listeners, whatever, could be fake, we don't know. Either way, people are gonna come for him, but like that, even though the listening is gap is big, he outperf my opinion, outperform Mike Towers in terms of energy. Um, you know, you know what I'm trying to say?

SPEAKER_01

I get it. Listen, I feel like the the perspective that a lot of people, you know, I love pop culture, so that's more of my lane, and I understand that the the metrics of measuring is very different. There's certain things that you can measure, there's certain things you can't measure. To say that Mike Towers is um the bigger artist, that means you're talking from base just being based in Aruba or based in the the Latin region. He's big for the Latin region, but Marshall, I'm pretty you could go to Japan and they know his songs. Really? Hell yeah!

SPEAKER_03

All right, I'm I'm guys, I'm just looking up a Spotify. I'm basing this off of information of like Spotify listeners, views, like just that damn my laptop just died.

SPEAKER_01

And that's what I'm telling you. Though those data, that data is kind of like tricky to play with because look at look at when we say look at uh Beyoncé and Anita. The world knows who the fuck Beyonce is. Yeah, everybody doesn't know who Anita is, but when there's like a fan voting award, sometimes Anita wins. Why? Because Brazil's people are way more in tune, they're way bigger population, so all of these people voting for just Anita?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So Marshall on Insta on Spotify has 793,000 monthly listeners. Mike Towers or Annual, whatever you want to call him. Stop. It's Mike Towers. I'm joking. Come on. God damn. 41 million monthly. That's a so based on numbers, Mike Towers is the is the bigger artist. But this is Spotify. I know, but at the end of the day, I see the performance and I take what's I like, how do I feel? Like, what's the takeaway for me for this? Or what's the experience that I've experienced watching, you know, this? Marshall for me, like he's the one that stood out the most.

SPEAKER_01

For y'all, because y'all are not used to him, but people that know who he is, we understand. And this was not him giving his best performance. Just imagine that. Yeah, this was not him giving his everything. This man would have loved, probably left the stage like drenched. Yeah, yeah. That is who Marshall is, and that is what a Marshall performance is like. But and again, Spotify. How many people in Aruba have Spotify? Not many, even mine is my guy. Marshall is from the Caribbean. He comes from the era, people still listen to freaking him on YouTube and all these other things. These guys can he come from an era of people with CDs, and they still make those things for their people that listen to them. His his songs don't have bad words or stuff like that. Most of his music is clean. So ever all ages listen to his music. So again, saying that Mike Towers is the biggest art, the bigger artist is again based off of what type of music you listen to.

SPEAKER_03

But if you're if you're somebody like me that listen to all types of music, oh well then let's talk about Mike Towers because I didn't say the full thing, so you're gonna have to fill me out on a few things that happened. And so I think what's your opinion on this? Comment below as well. Keep both the parents.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, what did y'all what did y'all think about it?

SPEAKER_03

Join the conversation, please.

SPEAKER_01

I think Mike had a good performance. Um I don't know too many of his songs. Me neither. The ones that they came on, I enjoyed. I enjoyed seeing people that actually knew his songs, like how crazy they went for him. Yeah, because I know how I was probably acting for Marshall. Yeah, so I enjoyed watching other people, you know, enjoy it. Yeah, like that's your thing. Do your big one. Yeah, you know. So I I in I was I always go with the open mind. So I was like, okay, let's see. I just felt like his performance didn't really give me like that wow effect. He had like this, you know, Elite Ehmar, you got production on that stage. Yeah, this guy had like a whole screen. Yeah, so he was on top of it. Yeah, I was there, yeah. I was like, That's cool. The way you could have fucking used this, he just did nothing with it. Like, like when your laptop goes to sleep, you know, when it goes like that screensaver and it just that's what he was on.

SPEAKER_03

I was like, that's what you're doing with all of this. From what I saw, like when they were filming him for the screens, it was blue, like a blue person. I'm like, why would you do that?

SPEAKER_01

I feel like he was very like minimum with everything, like you already had no dancers. So, in my opinion, the local bands already outperformed you respectfully.

SPEAKER_03

I was gonna mention it.

SPEAKER_01

Tsunami and Groove Masters outperformed them.

SPEAKER_03

I was gonna mention it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Respectfully. So they already set the bar extremely high.

SPEAKER_03

Everybody that came before you set the bar really high, and this is your moment now to come with no dancers, yeah, no entertainment, and it's it's like sorry, it's it's like he came like he showed up, sang some songs, performed his hits, crowd loved it, but there was no interaction, there was no movement, no showmanship, there's nothing, none of that.

SPEAKER_01

Even if he danced by himself, like if he was like some Chris Brown shit giving, yeah, like some you know, dance on a chair. I don't know, something get a crowd, give a lap dance, like what Chris Brown does.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I think his only highlight that I can remember is when the um this random local guy, I think, went up on stage and the security wanted to get him off. Yeah, like I think that was the highlight. We were like, oh shit, like something's happening finally. Like, thank God for the kid that gave him like an extra performance. Because if not, I don't think I would have remembered. It would have been dope too if the kid actually knew the songs. He didn't know the song. I don't know Spanish, so I don't know what he was saying.

SPEAKER_03

He was it seemed like he knew, like, it's like you know when you there's like 20 words that come up, but you only know like six. Yeah, and then like I see about no no no no no like I don't know, I didn't even know what he was singing. All I know he was mumbling, he was definitely drunk. He got asked, I saw him outside as I was leaving. He was kicked out, he was outside. Oh, they kicked him out. Yeah, yeah, get him out, out. And uh I agree. That that part was like, oh, they I was standing with Mox and Eddie for a little bit. Yeah, and I was like, oh they're lady, what's on the like for feeling like something's like happening on the stage? Yeah, and I thought that the security was gonna knock him out, like tackle him.

SPEAKER_00

And I think, yo, hold up.

SPEAKER_03

And the guy just stayed, but then I started getting annoyed. I'm like, okay, bro, you've had your moment. Yeah, you sang a little bit. Yeah, he was overdoing it. Now get the fuck down.

SPEAKER_01

He was overdoing it.

SPEAKER_03

It was a little bit, it was a little bit.

SPEAKER_01

When the other side, I'm like, okay, now you push it in. You've had your moment. Like, get off.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Because first I thought it was like he brought him out so he can perform with him. I thought it was a setup. Like, there's no way that security, like, is wait, I didn't see the security at first. I just saw him on this end and and um Mike Towers here. So I was like, okay, he brought somebody out. Maybe it's like one of his artists or something. And then I saw this the security standing there, and I saw another security, and I was like, oh, he's a local. This is happening. Yeah, no, that was that was that was fun. But um, his performance was good. I would say he have he has hits, so you he has like some songs, but was it like the oh my god, like he made the concert? Nah, I enjoyed Beeley last year or two years ago more than yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Are you cabin be L E Bee? Bele, okay.

SPEAKER_01

I enjoyed him, and I didn't even know his songs or his music. I didn't know anything about him. He's got dancers, he had a good time, it's just energy vibe with him, and I enjoy that.

SPEAKER_03

Capo, same thing, but this but again again, this is even Capo I couldn't enjoy because I was also MCing the second guy. This is literally in years. The first time I'm going to a f uh a festival in Aruba, and I'm actually not working, but working. Yeah, but like my we were working, but like we could have been like, yo, fuck this. Like, let's enjoy the festival, like screw the rest of the vlog. We could have done that. No, but if I was MCing, like I can't be like, hey Nicole, me the bea, it was a good calling back. I'm supposed to figure out watching beat the fuck out of me. Couldn't do it.

SPEAKER_01

Even that was nice though, that we went like backstage, you know, get to talk to like the employees. Yeah. Again, y'all gonna see. So yeah, we're not gonna see.

SPEAKER_03

We give you a little bit of behind the scene of what goes back there and what's their opinion on like we asked one question. You can say that, Bart. Yeah, we're not gonna, we're not gonna. Can I at least say that question? Yeah, so we asked everybody behind this, behind this, well, everybody, wherever we could, yeah. What is one thing that could just ruin the festival for them? Or just a festival in general, and then they give us an answer. So wait for the vlog to come out. When is it gonna come out? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

2028, I don't know, which way no, but just stay pending.

SPEAKER_03

Um, what else what else what else can we talk about? Or do we just end it here?

SPEAKER_01

I feel like, oh, okay, shout out to On the Rocks.

Food Feedback Second Stage Fixes

SPEAKER_01

They had they had catering there. The steak sandwich was good. That is something though I did see people come um complain about though. They were like they wish it had more variety of food and not just one option.

SPEAKER_03

I think they keep I think they're keeping everything in-house now. I from what I heard, they're not doing any more vendors. I might be wrong. Maybe maybe they're trying out something new. I don't know. Like um, they're just yeah, it's on the rocks and Elite Eats what's in the name itself, you already know.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't know who the fuck is Elite Eats? Wait, oh, there's an Elite Eats?

SPEAKER_03

It's a collaboration, so all the vendor is a collaboration of Elite Eats and Um On the Rocks.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03

So I guess Elite Eats is like a catering service.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. No, but or maybe just more variations of yeah, you can be it, you can keep on the rocks, but then the food was good though.

SPEAKER_03

The quality of like it wasn't like people were like telling me the wings were like amazing. The steak sandwich, we had a steak sandwich, it was amazing.

SPEAKER_01

It was really good.

SPEAKER_03

The burger was good, so I had it afterwards. I was starving, but uh yeah. Yeah, truffle fries, it was it was more of an elevated um foot stand.

SPEAKER_01

So that's why I think people were just like maybe they or maybe they didn't need more options. I don't know. But that was some of the some of the debates that I saw from or feedback that I got from people. I saw some things online as well.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, maybe maybe on the cost end, like sometimes if you keep your your menu short, you have more control so you don't have waste.

SPEAKER_01

But then that's why the more vendors thing, then. Because then at least you keep your you keep your menu low and cost efficient, but then you're also catering to a festival with thousands of people. So everybody's not gonna want to eat from this one vendor or just the limited quantity that you have on that vendor.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, maybe maybe somebody doesn't want steak sandwiches and maybe somebody wanted a burrito and there was no burrito.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I don't know, but I'm just saying you can't cater to everybody either. Like that's not also not what I'm saying. But yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Now, I already I already know the answer to this one. If you have to give one artist or performer of that evening the MVP, MVP. I feel like we're just out here rapping while we're doing a podcast.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, yeah, same for me. He did his big one, he really did his big one. He really, I mean, this is why he is the best. He's been known for being the best for years. And I feel like Aruba finally got to experience it. And now, hopefully, like the Arubans can understand what we say when we're talking about like Rodmaj and Soka and you know, elevating Soka to a high level. But like, this is what we mean. Like, real soca is about that big energy that all that you felt there, that is what Soka is. Like, that is what Soka music represents. So hopefully now we don't we can like leave this debago, you know, and we can't like letting things go, but okay. Yeah, so hopefully we can leave this go now.

SPEAKER_03

Sorry, but no, we're not doing that.

SPEAKER_01

And we saw what quality is, and this man gave us quality. I mean, we've had Kess and all them before, yeah, and they gave us the shit.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I enjoyed Cass too. Was it last year? It was last year, right?

SPEAKER_01

Of course. No, Kess was I think the last year, two years. I can't remember. Kess and Beeley came together, or no?

SPEAKER_03

I think so, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh no, and then that we had the um Cultura Profetica, which this year we had Dread RI.

SPEAKER_03

But Cultura Profetica was a good one. That was a different one.

SPEAKER_01

That was I'm so confused. It's too many concerts, yeah, yeah. But all in all, listen.

SPEAKER_03

Grip, great flip of this year was great.

SPEAKER_01

I love the two-day event was also spot on.

SPEAKER_03

I agree. I think moving forward, it's just a two-day event. I would even argue, and Mark Benson agreed with me as well, guys. We thought we asked people in the vlog as well. Should it be a two-day or three-day event? Or no, one day or two-day event. Some people, including Mark. They were the what? The party people say, like, we might even think about it as a three-day event. First day, Reggae, super chill, like welcome to the festival. Day two, high energy, like Soka and Reggaetong. Third day, I don't know what that's up to the people to decide.

SPEAKER_01

He didn't have a whole idea behind it. Look at him, look at him.

SPEAKER_03

So, those who buy VIP, you need to get you need to buy a VIP stand in order to go to a third party because maybe it'll be on the beach instead of being at Harbor Arena, have it at Bushidi on the beach party, like smaller, and it could be. I don't want to say DJs because the Flip Flo Festival does not give me like like guys, you forgot about the DJ part. The DJ set in the back. Um, wasn't wasn't very full. I'm sorry, but that is what it is.

SPEAKER_01

I think, respectfully, I think they should go back to like it being the urban one. Because I feel like the urban one had people like Lady, Sovila, and all these people like DJ La to Win. Yeah, that was nasty.

SPEAKER_03

And and keep it, keep it closed though off. Yeah, have a roof underneath it, make it close it off. It's like you want to be invited because if you're just because it it was at the end, it was the same thing that happened at the other festival with Capo. The second stage was at the entrance. You're gonna just walk through because you want to go see the main stage. Same thing happened with this stage. You walk in, hey Bunita, Bandilanti. And once you're there, you're like, I don't want to walk back all the way back to the entrance. I'm over here, I got a good spot. So it should be in a place. I get why the behind is better because sound-wise, you'll start clashing.

SPEAKER_01

Stop clashing.

SPEAKER_03

So, but if you at least build something that's closed off with AC inside or whatever, at least it's an extra attraction pan being. So, hey, they don't think air go. Kind of like how the Henrique's did it with the ACs inside the tent.

SPEAKER_01

Poor, I think poor. And have it closed off. But I think also the open air is also not a bad idea, especially for the heat. We know where we live. So um, I think that is not a bad idea. Maybe what what they can do though is I think because like you say, it does feel like uh you're just waiting in the office area because it's just like a okay, just pas akina and keep it pushing. Yeah, so maybe the location can stay, but the then the the type of music probably has to change where it's more inviting.

SPEAKER_05

Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Once you find because it was like four entrances, I feel like it was confusing. Like you enter the big gate, then you enter there, and then you enter there, and then you enter to like the concert, and then you have to enter there, so you can go like in the VIP standing in the VAP. Like, it was so many entrances, but it was nicer than one of the concerts that passed before. That it was just like crazy. This one was way more structured, the space was way more open. I feel like it was less chaotic. But um, I would probably maybe make their a bit more litter and maybe like just like have like a door, like you say, like close it off a little bit. A little bit of game its own little party. So it's like, hey, you want to go in? Let me just pass. Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_03

Go in. I think the space is a little bit too big as well, because it was a big area.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because they would get nasty. I would be twerking it. Because there was moments where you're like, okay, I'm tired of this.

SPEAKER_03

I just need to like uh I I would also backtrack and um have like cutie bang. Because it it's it's I get the genre of music they were playing is is very niche, and I feel like it doesn't fit, no offense, if he said I'm here and he played that that night. It's a very niche kind of genre that for that festival, a lot of people will not go to that kind of music. I'm like, I'm not here. Like, I love Soka, I love reggaetong, I love this, but that's not my vibe. So if you bring like a DJ, like you bring Kerry Bang Worldwide, whatever you want to call it, or even have a hotshots arena, whatever you want to call it. Have them do it, and then you know you're gonna have a variety of like, for example, if you put a hotshots, you know what to expect already.

SPEAKER_01

Like you're catering to the locals, and this is the a festival for the locals. So you have all of your locals here. Do you need local music? Yeah, you need that rubber dump them bow. Yeah, stinky. Put like a DJ Chucky, DJ Moore back there, like G-E Ski, I don't know, Minasa.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So bring one of nastiness.

SPEAKER_03

Bring Aruba vs. Cruiso kind of state. Oh, you it you know what to expect back there. Nastiness. I agree. So that's something that I mean, guys. We want is our opinion like that's like busta pensas, it's agree with no stuff now, but I do think that genre of music should doesn't fit well in that area. It should be just like a hotshots party or a caddy bang party. Yeah and you know, like I know what I'm gonna expect. Yeah, and I'm gonna have different kinds of because you're gonna have different kinds of DJs with different styles with different kinds of music. Meanwhile, that the one that we just heard, we just had, it's just one kind of genre, maybe like instead of tut, it's ta-ta-ta, but it's a still ta-like, you know, it's the same for me it's repetitive. It's the same.

SPEAKER_01

It's not, but I I feel I know what you mean. I know what you mean.

SPEAKER_03

So, anyway, let's end it over here. Yeah, um, I wanna well, final question to end. Who would you want to see next year? I can't even answer that question because I'm not really strong in that genre.

SPEAKER_01

Any other three genres. I you know, the thing is, I don't understand flip-flops' identity to like what the recipe is of the festival.

SPEAKER_03

I feel like this year they kind of showed it. Reggae, reggaeton, dance, um, soca. Although they had dance hall in the past too.

SPEAKER_01

That's why I don't, I I don't know what to I don't know what the how they pick pick their artists. Yeah, how they do the whole thing. Maybe that's another conversation that we could have as well. Like, you know, how do the what's the starting process for how do you pick your artists? Yeah, how do you do all this? Because then it would make more sense to be like, okay, like budget-wise, then we know, like, okay, we can like say like a Rihanna, or like, oh, forget about stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you know, look for these type of artists. You're not gonna be like uh, here's a Bruno Mars, like, wait, flip the festival, Bruno Mars. Doesn't make sense. So, yeah, I I actually you're right. That's a good question. Because I don't actually, you guys comment below. Who do you guys want to see? If it's a reggae artist, a reggaetong artist.

SPEAKER_01

Somebody did say Carl G, though. They should bring her back.

SPEAKER_03

Um, Mark Benz is at it in the vlog.

SPEAKER_01

Because when we went to Curaçao as well for North Sea jazz, a lot of people also was like, hey, yo, bring Carl G. So I feel like she's and we've had her before we've had her before.

SPEAKER_03

I think um Island Takeover.

SPEAKER_01

Was it I no? It was Flip Flop. No, yeah, it was for Flipflop. I should know. I hosted it. Exactly. She had a blue hair still.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. I think that who was the other artist? Was it Fat Joe?

SPEAKER_01

Fat Joe or Rick Ross?

SPEAKER_03

No, it wasn't Rick Ross. I also emptied that one.

SPEAKER_01

It wasn't Rick Ross. I don't know, but I know she was here.

SPEAKER_03

All right, guys, let us know who you guys want to see next year. Um, I I stand by it. Flip-flop two-day festival for now, maybe week three. But don't don't go back to what's Island Takeover, though. Chris, can I go with Island Takeover? Laganosa. I think I think with Island Takeover, they wanted to create a different genre. Because like Flip-Flop was very like chill, reggae vibes. Um and I think Island Takeover was more reggaeton rap.

SPEAKER_01

Urban. Yeah. They kind of combined now.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly. I think that's why I don't think Island, I don't think Island Take Over will come back. Yeah, I don't think so either. You're good. You we

Final Thoughts And Next Year Wishes

SPEAKER_03

have Island Take Over. I mean, no, we have Flipflop, the one with the Capo, and Bright Summer Sessions.

SPEAKER_01

That one. Um what else do we have? I don't know. I thought there's a new one coming up. Um Arab Festival Music or Music Festival or something like that. That's another one I see that's coming up now.

SPEAKER_03

I don't even know, man. So all right, that's end of it here. Guys, thanks for tuning in. Um subscribe, leave a comment down below. Who do you guys want to see next year? Give us your opinion of your experience at the Flip Fly Festival. And we read all the comments, we reply to all of them actually. So we'll see you next week. Peace.