Mammoth split on the road, Recapping Utes Spring Ball, Jazz win the coin flip, MLB NL West battle

- Mammoth on the Road – A hard-fought trip ends in a split. What stood out, and what does it mean moving forward?

- Utes Spring Ball Recap – Position battles, breakout names, and early storylines as Utah wraps up spring camp. Who’s rising and who still has work to do?

- Jazz Win the Coin Flip – It may not be a game-night victory, but it could shape the franchise’s future. What this means heading into the draft.

- NL West Showdown – One of baseball’s toughest divisions is heating up early.  With the sell of the Padres, what does this mean for the Dodgers division dominance 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hello, everybody, and welcome once again to another exciting episode of the DNA sports recap. My name is Darren. That is my man on the right, I guess. On my left, you're right.

SPEAKER_01 0:10

Yeah, that's weird.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

That all makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 0:12

I am on the right.

SPEAKER_00 0:13

Yeah. That's AJ.

SPEAKER_01 0:15

AJ. Yeah. Oh man. I'm excited. I'm excited. We got some good stuff today.

SPEAKER_00 0:20

Got a lot of good stuff to talk about for sure. For sure. Once again, folks, if you're watching this in our live stream, please feel free to jump in the chat. We love to interact with you during the show. So if you have a comment on what we're talking about, please jump, chime in. Let us know what your thoughts are. Uh let us know how wrong we are, all that good stuff. And uh yeah, AJ wants to know your favorite color. Coverwash channel jumping in uh first in the chat. What's going on, my friend? Saying hi. What's going on? What's going on, man? Appreciate it. Thanks for joining us uh on this here. Um let's go ahead and get right into it, man. Let's go ahead and talk about some uh Utah Mammoth, shall we? I think we need to. All right, let's go ahead and talk about your mammoth in the NHL playoffs. All right, man. Well, hey, AJ, playoffs are here, and believe it or not, the mammoth are in it. Yeah. That is the first thing to cheer about. After all the talk, too. All the talk, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Um, and again, when it comes to this, we have a few things we want to jump into. First, um, now the mammoth did lose. So we're two games in at the time recording. Uh, the mammoth did lose game one, two to four. Uh, they held the lead uh on goals from Logan Cooley and Kevin uh Stedland. Um now I hear a lot of talk about all of those just a deflection and everything, right? You hear that a lot, but guess what? That's hockey.

SPEAKER_02 1:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

Right? You know, just like a half-court shot that goes in at the buzzer, sends it into overtime. That's just basketball, right? Yeah. Or a pass ball that scores a run in a game. That's just that's just baseball. Yeah, that's what it is. Right. Um, so you know, you also had uh Veggie, who had 27 uh saves. Uh the bottom line is is that you know, you went into the third period with the lead and you gave it up. You copped it up, man. You gave it up. I mean, that's something you cannot do for this team.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

And the big thing is is game one was really physical. You know what I mean? Like it it was just one of those games where I think the mammoth took longer than anticipated to really adjust to the the super physical play that the Golden Knights were playing with. I mean, and yeah, you have some things kind of, you know, we had some things bounce our way, they had some things bounce their way, but but really Vegas controlled the tempo of that game. And I think the score at 4-2 doesn't doesn't necessarily depict how much closer that game was.

SPEAKER_00 2:45

Yeah, no, I mean they went offense empty net, like to try and get them back in the game when they were down three to two. Um, but here's what here's some of the comments that I didn't here's some of the comments from them post-game that I didn't really like. One is our this is our first playoff game. I heard that a lot. A lot. And I don't know how much I enjoyed that. Like, I'm just like, okay, guys, act like you've been there before. You know, so even if you haven't. Yeah. You know, well, there's a bunch of players on the team that have. So you know, and there's a coach that has been there before, you know. So um, you know, to get that first one our under our belt, get settled in, really feels good. I don't know if you ever feel good coming out of a loss, but thank you, um, Logan Cooley, on that one. Obviously, we want to get the win, but you want to get uh your feet wet a little bit and you know how it is, and we can't and we need to uh beat them in game two. I'm excited at that part, and we're gonna get get excited to get ready to get back at it. So now those comments again, you you at some point, you know, I guess maybe just for me, by the time I heard it from Logan Cooley, I'm just like, okay, we've heard it enough. We've heard it from the head coach, we've heard it from the broadcasters, we've heard it from you know the analysts, you know. It did kind of look like just in the third period, maybe they were gassed, maybe the adrenaline r ran out. Veggie was looking pretty good through the first two periods of this game, and then in the third period, it kind of just kind of seemed like they just didn't have enough there. And you know, Vegas, like you mentioned, it just was able to check them enough to keep them, keep the game physical and just tired them and weared them down.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

Yeah, yeah. And it was, I mean, I think I think as you're watching this game, I think I I'm more worried if they had the intestinal fortitude to win this one, right? Like as you're watching, it's like, do you have enough here and here to win this to win this game? Because it didn't look like it. You could tell the environment was tough. The Vegas fans showed out, you could tell just by watching how loud that place place was. And it was really interesting. I mean, to to watch it because I mean it got to the point it was like this, these could be a rough two games in Vegas. Right. You know, like if they're gonna come out and play like this after this much time, uh we're not gonna be able to stay up with these guys. They've got too much playoff experience, they've got a lot of veteran leaders, and we've got a lot of young guys who are admitting after the game that they're young and this is their first playoff game, and this is you know, they it's like they weren't ready for for this moment.

SPEAKER_00 5:18

Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I think that's a good transition into game two. One of the things, one of the notes I I made here after analysis of game one before going into game two is you know, can Utah capitalize on their speed? Can that top line of Keller, Schmaltz, and Krauss, um, who had zero points in game one, by the way? Yeah, can can you know, can they step it up and leverage that speed that this team's known for? Um and honestly, man, I think they pretty much did that. You know, I think they, you know, I think they didn't they did quite well and not getting stuck in Vegas's game style of play, right?

SPEAKER_02 5:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:52

They were able to come back in, they were in all, they're all about the checks, they're all about that physical play, but it Utah really capitalized on their speed and leveraged key turnovers and some great breakaways, uh, and some great network by Veggie, by the way. Uh who, you know, which really helped turn the tide in the third period. The mammoth um they had one shot. Uh, so the mammoths, the mammoth outshot them 29 to 21 in this game and really kept Hart, you know, making some really, you know, he made some great plays. Great great saves. Yeah. Right. So, and I just think it it was that point where gosh, some of that stuff, Veggie was just on lock, man. And Utah kept doing this whole ISO shootout from my favorite one was I think it was I think it was I don't know if it was Clayton Keller. No, who was it that made that goal? Oh my gosh, from the top of the key where it looked like he already had the stick already wound up, yeah. Back, ready to go before the pass even came. Like there, center iced and just just slapped it in.

SPEAKER_01 6:55

It was that I mean that was a great shot.

SPEAKER_00 6:56

Like he it's like I don't know if that was Berterka. Let us know uh in the comments there, guys. Let's know.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

We should probably know this. I didn't I didn't actually make that note though, as crazy as that is about players that scored goals in game two.

SPEAKER_00 7:09

Yeah, I mean, yeah, well, I had it up, but I I don't think I had it there. But um, but yeah, man, so it what happened in game two, I think, is really kind of the key thing there is that they leveraged what was great about this team and didn't get stuck playing the Vegas style, you know, physical type of hockey game, which is great because again, when you're playing when you're playing on the road, you want to come home with a one-on-one split. You want to get the split, come back home. And I think what we have here uh from Car Watch Channel is a perfect example of that. Utah ties it series one to one, and game three is Friday night at the Delta Center. So um what's your br what's your takeaway from game two?

SPEAKER_01 7:53

I mean, they just look like a different team. I mean, from from the very get-go, um it just looked like they were on a mission to play to Vegas' level of physicality, and it looked like they had a game plan to actually beat them in that in that second game. Um I mean that first goal in game two was on for for Vegas was on a Vegas power play. And like in that in that moment, the the defense was playing super cautious. And it was funny because I was just saying to one of my kids, like, I don't know if they're moving fast enough for this power for for them to actually stop this power play. And it was like one second later they they they punched it in. And I was like, Oh, that's that that wasn't a great game. That wasn't a great play right there. Um, you know, and the scoring kind of goes back and forth, but this team looked much, much better. Um, it helped, I I think I believe they started Liam O'Brien. Um and and he brought some physicality out there, and and that really helped them a lot. Um yeah, I mean they just they looked they looked like they actually belonged there in the second game. You you could tell the nerves weren't with them nearly as much. Um they played physical and and they used their speed. I mean, just just like you were saying, this team needed to utilize speed to beat this physical team. That's the only thing that's gonna beat them, right? We've got some young kids that skate fast, they can get up the ice, and it puts a lot of pressure on goaltenders, right? Yeah, and that was how they did it. I mean, they they forced the puck, they kept pushing it up the ice, and I mean when you when you apply that many shots, you know, safe percentages are what they are for a reason, right? Like you can only you can't save all of them. Nobody saves all of them.

SPEAKER_00 9:36

Well, I thought really interesting is you noticed that both first goals were all both on deflections for both teams. Yeah, they both came off of like a deflection off of escape or just you know, off the opposite team. Yeah, like I thought that was pretty interesting. Like, oh, that's not how you want to start it. And then they both got them like, okay, we each got one. Yeah, I'm okay. We're square, we're good. Yeah, I'm okay with that. Puck don't lie, you know. So I thought that was a lot of I thought that was interesting. But man, is this gonna be crazy coming into game three here in the Delta Center? First an HL playoff game in history at the Delta Center. It's gonna be crazy.

SPEAKER_01 10:09

Yeah, it's uh I'm just glad because they look like a team that that possibly has three more wins in them, right? After that first one, I wasn't sure they were ready to be here. It seemed like the stage was a little bit too big. But after watching game two, it seems like these guys are up to the task. Um, we've got enough veteran leadership to kind of keep this team focused, and we got to keep playing with speed. Um, but I mean a little bit of luck, and I mean you could be you could be taking this team in the right direction for sure.

SPEAKER_00 10:38

Absolutely, absolutely. And I really like that they won game two, not game one, because that really brings the momentum coming into Solid. Exactly. So I think that's really awesome. And again, with the right game plan with the, you know, with the what is it, the 12th man? How many, how many players are on ice at the any given point? There's eight, right? No idea. I think it's eight. I think it's eight. Anyway, um, anyway, with the crowd behind them, they should really make make a difference, man. So it's gonna be a lot of fun. I agree. I think they come out and they get a win in game three, and it's gonna be a decisive one, like a three to one victory.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

That would be sweet.

SPEAKER_00 11:10

That's what I'm predicting on that game three. It's a three-to-one victory for the mammoth.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

I can tell you playoff hockey is fun to watch, dude. Oh, yeah, it is physical, it is fast. I I had no idea, but game one was probably the first playoff playoff hockey game I've ever watched in my whole life.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

Yeah, it very much felt like Olympic gold medal type.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

It was intense. I mean, and it was hard hits and fast moving, and I mean, it was it was really I enjoyed it after. I was like, I have to watch game two, like I gotta see this. Yeah, it was great. Yeah, very impressed.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

Very impressed. We want to hear from you folks. Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below when it comes to Utah Mammoth. Uh, what's your prediction? What do you think is gonna happen in game three? You got a prediction for us?

SPEAKER_01 11:52

I'm gonna say I think Utah, I I could see Utah winning in a decisive one in game three. I think they'll be feeling the juice from the home crowd. Um, I don't I don't know. Maybe maybe you guys can help us out. I don't know how big the home ice advantage is in hockey.

SPEAKER_00 12:07

Oh, in Utah, I think it's gonna matter.

SPEAKER_01 12:09

I mean, you would think that. And I could see it in basketball with it getting loud. I can see it in football with it getting loud and not being able to hear, but I feel like in hockey it would be pretty easy for the home crowd to feed off of the energy too, or the the road cow. The road crowd, yeah. Yeah. So um, let us know.

SPEAKER_00 12:26

Yeah. We want to hear from you guys in the comments down below. Uh Mammoth fans or other team hockey, you know, franchise fans. If you guys are familiar with, you know, playoff hockey, let us know if that's really a big deal. But yep, you know, love to see it. We'd love to have them come with a series lead after game after three games and then see what happens. Because after that, all bets are off, AJ.

SPEAKER_02 12:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:46

You know, we don't know if they're getting out of this round, but the uh the odds go up pretty high. Pretty high.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Especially if they leave with two win more, two more wins in Utah. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

Come out with two wins, I think it's what was it? Uh 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, right? Yep. Is how that this series breaks down. So um, yeah. Love to hear it, man. Love to hear it. You know, we're gonna see it Friday, Friday night. Delta Center. It's gonna be awesome. Yep. It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be awesome. All right, let's go ahead and pivot on over and talk a little bit about the Utah football. Let's do it. Um, all right, man. So Spring Ball has come and gone, AJ. And this was the first time with Morgan Scalley underneath the big headset, as they say. Um they do say that. They do. Uh, with uh while there's plenty of stuff to discuss about this youth team coming out of this camp, uh, we want to highlight something that we saw uh from the press, actually. This is an article from uh deseret.com. Uh, which position group made the most progress in spring? Um, here is what Morgan Sciately had to say. So that's the title of the article. That's a very lengthy article for sure. Yes, you gotta love it, gotta love it. We got another, we got uh Greg Hawkins, channel legend, Greg Hawkins jumping in the show. What's going on, man? What's up, Greg? Late to see you. Another one from uh Car Wash channel. Namash guys, how are you doing? We are doing pretty good. Pretty good. Thank you for asking. We appreciate it. Got the dark rye flowing tonight for sure. Oh, yeah. Um, so we gotta kill this bottle too, Darren. So oh geez, you know, for every you know, for the algorithm that's listening, that's apple juice. The bottle of apple juice. The bottle of apple juice in front of us. I mean, and I'm parched. Yeah, exactly. It's been a it's it's it's uh it's a Wednesday. It's been a long week. It's already Wednesday. Um, but anyway, so we wanted to talk about this, and there's a few things that they mentioned there. Do you want to start off with defense? You want me to go first?

SPEAKER_01 14:37

Yeah, absolutely. So, I mean, talking about the defense, um I think the defensive line is one of the biggest question marks really around Utah football, right? And uh, I mean, Colton Swan kind of mentioned in another interview how um just really how great Coach Ellis has done with the defensive line. And I mean, we all know that over the years we put a bunch of defensive line talent, you know, into the league. And you know, so having guys really step up in a room that as Colton Swan said, that is a that is a line that needed identity and establishment. Um so to have uh you know a solid direction with that group is is really just a super positive thing. Um and and it's nice to see that you know him and and Colton Swan are really on the same page as far as like, yes, this is a group that we're going to need some major production out of. This defense can't be great without a great defensive line. Um and then the cornerbacks um as far as defense, um, it's also noted to have come a really long way in spring camp. You know, having Scooby Davis back, and then you know, you move Rock Caldwell from safety, um, that kind of helps in the position group. And then you got some incoming transfers that are that are great players. Um, and all those guys are gonna be kind of mixed in there at cornerbacks. So we know that cornerbacks in Utah defense are always heavily relied on. They run a pro-style defense, you know, you're gonna you're gonna rush at the line of attack, you're gonna run one-on-ones on the sides, you got um linebackers that you know, those are really the pieces that keep moving on that defense. So um it's it's really interesting um as far as you know on the defensive portion.

SPEAKER_00 16:16

So yeah, and I one of the things about the defensive side of the ball here is that you know, it's pretty much business as usual on that side of things. Yeah. So when it comes to the impact there, I mean, yes, we have a new defensive coordinator. The old defensive coordinator is still there, he's just under a bigger headset. That's all that's really different. Um, but mostly it's gonna be the same game plan, the same scheme. And you know, we're gonna see some different plays for sure, and some different reads and everything like that. But from you know, what we're talking about here on the offensive side, what you're able to see here, and this is coming from Scaly himself. You're talking about a brand new crew having to work together, having to communicate, having to communicate with a new O-line coach. I'm very pleased at the progress from our O-line uh that have been made so far, and still a lot to go uh from Coach Scaly himself. Uh so uh with that said, we also have some um some good battles going on on the offensive side. So we have uh left guard, uh we have between left guards, senior, uh soolata. No, I had this, I had this sool toa. Solatoa moea i. Solatola mo moe moe ahi. Solatua moeae? No, moea. Moea? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

Solatoa.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

No, sola toa. Solatola moeahi. I actually had to look it up in a pronoun pronunciation to get it right. And I said it like four times, and as soon as I went to say it here, gone. Just completely gone. Um anyway, solatola moi. Um, and you can't say he because it you want to put that H on there, but that H isn't there. Right. Mole A E. Um, anyway, he's a five-star. So he's uh he's the incoming senior. Uh, and then we also have the five-star freshman, uh Kelvin Obot. Um, that they're gonna be battling for that uh left guard spot on the offensive side there. Um now also in regard to Kelvin uh Kelvin Scally. Um no, uh in regards to Kelvin, Scally said, um, I would say that Kelvin is the guy uh that you're saying, okay, you've been good for us, and that's pressure for him, right? So he's dealt with a lot of pressure his entire life up until this point, so I'm excited. Um, and then you also have on the right between uh Cedric Jefferson, the Montana State Transfer, as well as the red shirt sophomore uh due to injury, which was Isaiah Garcia, um, who will be pushing uh for that starter spot coming in the fall. Skelly mentioned on this one uh that he's always been uh he's always had good coaching. He's finally getting to the point where he's clicking, where everything's clicking for him, and he's played well at multiple positions along the offensive line. So we expect for him to be able to contribute this season. Yeah. Um, so which is great to hear.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

Yeah, Isaiah Garcia is a super talented offensive line guy. Um, he came over, he he actually went to the same high school as um Isaac Wilson. Um, those guys both came over from Corner Canyon, and he was like one of the top recruits in the state when he chose Utah and battled a couple seasons worth of injuries, and he's finally healthy and ready to go this season, which is a very, very good news for Utah.

SPEAKER_00 19:32

Yeah, and there's also a comment here from Devin Dampier, uh, not related to this article, but uh this was something that he mentioned that he's really looking forward to the plays, uh play editions that McGivens is working on for strategic moments in games, uh, which is interesting. Yes, there's gonna be that kind of change, you know. So um something you really love to hear. How much of this is real versus how much of this is just coach speak uh to keep players happy and enrolled?

SPEAKER_01 19:58

Um what I noticed probably the most is how little they talked about actual oh that is crazy. Talk about blowing up our segment.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

Sorry, back to it. Thanks, Greg. Thanks, Greg. Yeah, uh we'll talk about that later, but but uh course the Matt's forgot.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

We forgot what I was even talking about. Uh sorry, what I noticed was that the uh the coaches left a lot of names out of this. Yes, you know what I mean? Like they did not talk about very specific players, it was very few and far between. They talked position groups, they talk about guys working together. They were not talking about who their key players were and how they were how they had changed. I mean, maybe pick a guy here and a guy there, like across the whole team, but they weren't talking about specific guys in specific player groups. They weren't like, and I feel like in the past it's been a little bit more specific. So it's really interesting to see that they were so generic with all of their interviews.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

Yeah, uh I agree with you 100% on that, and that's kind of where I'm like, okay, are they protecting their depth here?

SPEAKER_01 21:06

Oh, absolutely. That's a hundred percent what they're doing.

SPEAKER_00 21:09

Yeah, none of this, like, okay, let's keep the players happy and keep them enrolled in Utah. Yeah, you know, so it's kind of what a lot of what I was expecting to see out of this. You know, it's always like what we talk about when they're back in the old recruiting days, you know, when they come back in into fall camp and like, oh, you know, after recruiting, like, we got everybody we wanted. Yeah, you know, like, no, they're no one's gonna come into that pathground somewhere, like, man, we missed on everybody.

SPEAKER_01 21:29

Yeah, we missed on everybody. These guys suck, but we'll take them anyway. Yeah, no one's ever gonna say that.

SPEAKER_00 21:33

So um, yeah, I don't know, man. I just thought that this was an interesting article for them to talk about uh when it comes to the players that they mentioned, uh as well as you know, it's good to hear, you know, because we there's a lot of changes on the offensive end and some on the defense for sure. But just to have them all come out saying, Hey man, Spring was a lot more uh what's the word, productive than they were expecting. Yeah. Yeah. Um, did you see anything from the forever? Sorry, I cut you off there.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Oh, you're good. I was just gonna say, and it's it was interesting because uh Scally said that you know the most of the production we're gonna see is gonna come in the next couple of months where it's player-led practices. So obviously the coaches aren't out there, they're leaving it up to the players to get better over the next couple of months. They kind of got time off, you know, step away from the program, recharge the batteries, you know, before we get into fall camp here. So he says this is when the most pro this is when the most progress will be made is during player-led practices where players get a you know really see how engaged they are in the program.

SPEAKER_00 22:31

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, you know. Um I have to ask uh when it comes to the University of Utah and what they did this year, how do you feel about the Forever 22 fan day or fan experience? Did you read anything on it? Did you even bother looking it up to see how it went? Or did you pretty much just dismiss it? Because I just dismissed it. I'm like, whatever, it's not a game, I don't care.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

I I dismissed a lot of it. I feel like I uh I mean I saw all their social media posts about it, and there's kids jumping on mats and players signing autographs, and I don't know, check out our video last week. You'll get my my true my true opinion on what I thought was gonna happen, and I still feel pretty much exactly the same way.

SPEAKER_00 23:18

Yeah, yeah. We want to hear from you folks, let us know what your thoughts are. I'll put it up there in the video last week. Nice, nice. You know, whenever you say you're gonna do that, it's never up there. Oh, it is. Whenever you mark every one of the videos when I watch it on uh I guess it doesn't show up on a television, it only shows up on a yeah, on a mobile device, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 23:34

Yeah, probably what it is.

SPEAKER_00 23:35

Yeah, um, but yeah, so uh we want to hear from you folks, let us know what your thoughts are, what's your takes away from spring game? Sorry, spring camp, but no spring game. Uh we want to hear from you folks, let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below for sure. Do it. Uh, we got a couple of comments here. Uh, this is something I wanted to talk. We're gonna be talking about this in a moment here. Uh Mets just won a game. Um, and yeah, we're gonna be talking about it.

SPEAKER_01 23:55

Stay tuned, Greg. It's coming.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

No worries there on that one, dude. It's totally okay. Uh, I figured that Rod's what we actually are going to start talking about. You just took me off my game because I was in the middle and I was like, Well, I just knew as soon as we were gonna start talking about a team who's on a 12-game looting streak, yeah, they were gonna win a game. That's just how this works. You know, news always breaks right after we hit end stream or the next day.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

The Braves have won seven of eight. Just saying.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

Yeah, we're not talking about the Braves today. Go Braves. You saw how bad that that particular video is performing. So probably we'll do that.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

But the Braves videos never do great.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

No, I don't know why that is. One of the best teams in baseball right now. Yeah. One of? One of. I'd have to say. I I have an argument. We'll talk about that too. We'll talk about that too. Deal. Uh when we get into it.

SPEAKER_01 24:41

Uh I just watched the whole game against the the Nationals.

SPEAKER_00 24:44

Their game last night was yeah, but the Nationals are looking really good this year. Anyway, this is not baseball talk. So we'll get around to that when we get around to that. Wrong subject. Yeah, let's go ahead and get into it and let's talk a little bit about the Utah Jazz. It's first day, guys.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

He's doing I am struggling today.

SPEAKER_00 25:10

I just keep clicking the wrong button, too. Like it's like I keep passing it. It's like that episode of uh gosh, the second uh Toy Story where he's like, Oh, you pass it. Never too late now. I'm just gonna keep going around the board. That's pretty much it. Yeah, spot on, spot on. Um, but yeah, so we got hell yeah, here we go, jazz. So absolutely, let's go ahead and talk about it. So, first, before we get into the news, we want to actually talk cover something that happened probably about again a day after our last week episode, which was when Ryan Smith appeared on the Pat McAfee show. Yeah. Am I supposed to be introducing this one or are you?

SPEAKER_01 25:45

I am okay. Yeah, but that's a great intro. Yeah, so Ryan Smith, he just went on the Pat McAfee show, and it it was very interesting because he didn't sound like an owner of a rebuilding team, right? So, number one, he sounded like someone who thinks that the championship window for the jazz is a lot a lot closer than people realize, which was really cool as a jazz fan to hear. And number two, he sounded like an owner that has some serious concerns, and they just so happen to be the same concerns as casual NBA fans, diehard NBA fans, and some of that is based around how teams are able to build or rebuild a franchise, and that's directly related to tanking, trading, the draft. So, my question is what do you think about what Ryan Smith had to say about all of his frustrations with rebuilding?

SPEAKER_00 26:40

So I I I think you hit it spot on, but there's one part that you missed there that I think you need to go one more layer deep. Is he has the same frustrations as jazz fans? Yeah, not just NBA casuals or NBA fans directly or fans of like specifically the same arguments that we have had. And I cannot tell you how refreshing that was to hear our own owner come out and literally say the same things that we've been talking about for the last what two years now?

SPEAKER_01 27:04

It's crazy because he's a jazz fan. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

So he did talk about how he's owning his own, you know, how he's owning his own favorite team. Uh he was was talking about the mammoth at the beginning, and one of the things that Pat McAvee asked, he said, Hey, you're obviously when he asked about the statement there, he's like, Hey, I've been he's like, I only can talk about what we're reading here. You know, I didn't get the memo, but basically what they're saying is that the Utah Jazz are trying to lose games. And basically he just based made it kind of came out and just said it tongue in cheek, you know, you need to answer for this, you know. And clearly, because of the mammoth, you are not one of these owners that are trying to lose games, right? Right? So um there's a lot, and what I really like to say is there's a lot what he said is there's a lot working in the NBA that's working well, and that's what he liked, that's what I like to hear him say. And he also said that which is refreshing to hear from an NBA owner, is that there's a lot of collaboration between the league and the ownership to fix things. With that said, the key signs that he said is what is the rebuild experience in the NBA like for a team? He's like, you just at your you will have eight to ten teams that have to pull it into the pit. That's just math every single season, especially when they're adding two more. If you're rebuilding a team, you can't sign free agents because there are literally no all the he mentioned this, there are no all NBA free agents, yeah, in this draft, and there very rarely is. What they do is they they sign a max extension and then they demand a trade after that.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

So he's never got a chance to do that. Uh, and then also trades are really hard, especially in Utah now in this power uh player empowerment area era, teams are blocking trades, or players are blocking. Yeah, you know, which is really funny. We went, did you see all those articles about Kevin Love saying how he fell in love with Utah while he was here? Yeah. I'm just like I sure did. And I'll for those of you who are friends, uh I've uh you know been around this show. You know how we had the inside track there from an insider and they were in the room, how when Kevin Love blocked a trade to the Utah Jazz during the prime Gordon Hayward years. Yeah. So we had a chance to have a prime Kevin Love on this team, which would have been the key piece that we were missing absolutely. But hey, um, but yeah, now he now he loves it, so that's great. Um, but yeah, so I love to hear about that. And I also like to hear it's like this is just math, you know. He's like, these teams are gonna be rebuilding, and you need to figure out a way. And so you can't draft, so you can't trade for players, you can't sign key free agents because there are none. That puts a lot of pressure on the draft. So all these players that aren't all these teams that aren't winning have to rely on the draft. He's and you know, that's kind of what he said that's kind of really important to me. But most important, what he said is I'm glad to be out there to be in the position we be out of that position going forward. Uh, we have been in that position for the last four years, and how are we going to help the teams in the pit get back out on the track faster? First of all, I love all the racing um metaphors he's using on this one. Maybe he's buying a race team next. That's probably what he's doing. He's probably going out to the Miller Motorsports Park, whatever it's called. Maybe he'll open it back up. Maybe that's what I'll do. Maybe that's what I'll do.

SPEAKER_01 30:07

Oh is that is that controversial since it's the Miller Motorsports Park?

SPEAKER_00 30:12

It hasn't been called that. Like, but it's like we still call it.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

Just saying, he's got a thing.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

He's got Miller products. He does. He does. But yeah, so that's kind of my original uh thought is that he has the understanding of the same thing. He didn't say anything about the league, finding him $250,000. You know, he didn't say anything about that. He's just like, we need to figure out the experience, and he's confident that they will do that. So for that, that first comment was important enough for me to hear. Um, the other part of it was is that did you catch all the slight digs that he mentioned about how he was inheriting a team that has won, never won a draft pick.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

Has only uh never moved up, never moved up, never won the lottery, never moved up, and only moved down or held fast. And his exact words was that math is not mathing. Yeah. Um, so to that statement there, that's an owner that has the same frustrations as the fans do when it comes to the situation. I loved it, dude. That was very much kind of a uh dog whistle to all Utah Jazz fans out there to know that even the owner of our team thinks there's something fishy, and that the math that it just everything's not adding up here. The Utah Jazz are getting the raw deal on a bunch of things here, and not only does you know the fans feel it, but our owner feels it too. I don't know. What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 31:33

No, I I I think he's absolutely right, and he nailed it. I mean, we've been talking about it for years on this channel. It it it's absolutely crazy that the Jazz have never moved up one, not even improved their position one time. Yeah, not once.

SPEAKER_00 31:47

How long has the lottery been in place? Like 10, 15 years?

SPEAKER_01 31:51

Yeah, I think it's something like that.

SPEAKER_00 31:52

Yeah, and every time the jazz has been in the lottery, it's never that's just the math doesn't make sense there.

SPEAKER_01 31:58

Yep. And it's good to know that Ryan Smith knows it. It's good to know that you know he goes on national media and talks about it.

SPEAKER_00 32:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

Because as jazz fans, we're very much aware of it. And we we want we just want a shot, man. Give us one shot to get a player that's franchise changing franchise changing. And I think we did a really good job last year. We got really lucky with Ace Bailey because I do think he was a top three pick. Oh, easily, and he fell to five because of some backdoor stuff that his agent was doing and whatever. And we got really lucky, and I think he likes it here, and I think that the the franchise will take care of him as a player. Um, I think it was the best possible move for the Jazz with a number five pick. Yeah, so we got lucky.

SPEAKER_00 32:42

No, yeah, we got lucky there, but that and that's kind of the key thing there. Is I also think that it's nice to know that we have an owner now. He's like, we did he's like, trades are hard. He's like, you know, we tried some trades, he's like, we've got some folks and we're happy with the people we got, but that's even him saying that you can read between the lines there and saying, Yeah, we've tried to make trades and the get bring talent into Utah, and we struck out. It's like we struck out on players we wanted because either A, the player didn't want to come there, or B, you know, the team didn't want to play ball. Yep. So I'm glad to see that he understands that and he's felt that pain and now he understands it. And now he's basically all like this was the only basically he's saying this is the only way we had to work, guys. Yeah, this was it. This is our option. This was our option, and that's what we're gonna do. And I think that the key thing you need to take away from this, and again, something we talked about last week, how we're not looking back, we're looking forward. The fact that the owner said what he said, saying, I'm glad we're not in that position anymore, and I look forward to helping other teams get out of the pit as soon as possible. So I love that, dude. That tells me that no matter what, we're not gonna be seeing what we saw last year. We're gonna be seeing these players go at it and really gonna give their best.

SPEAKER_01 33:46

He also made a very other interesting comment. What's that? He mentioned very specifically that Walker Kessler is viewed as a central piece of this team's rebuild, which is awesome. I mean, I love it, and I think it just says volumes about how this team plans to prioritize re-signing Walker Kessler this offseason, which just reconfirms that obviously and and we all know this, but the Jezrein win no mode, right? There's no more trading and waiting and hoping for a solid draft pick, like we've got this year's draft pick. You got pieces, you know, good pieces in Jaron Jackson Jr. and Keontae George, and Walker Kessler is one of those pieces.

SPEAKER_00 34:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

He's a guy that we gotta have.

SPEAKER_00 34:25

Yeah, not only is it that it's it's they made moves assuming he was gonna be with his team.

SPEAKER_01 34:30

Absolutely, yeah. And that's because he's he's one of those, I mean, air quotes or not, he's an irreplaceable player. There's only a select few players in the league that can defend like Walker Kessler can. At seven foot one. I mean, especially if you add if he gets his three-point shot into the mid-30s, this dude's an absolute weapon, dude. We won't need it next year. We won't, but I'm saying if you can spread five guys out on offense and Walker Kessler's even a remote threat from the three-point line, yeah, true. That is a scary lineup, dude. Yeah. So, I mean, I just I hope that the Jazz can make it work. They got to get this Walker Kessler deal done. I mean, and they will and even if and put it together long term and and structure it however you need to, but you gotta get Walker Kessler back in Salt Lake City next year.

SPEAKER_00 35:15

Yeah, well, uh the best part is he is a restricted free agent. So if anybody makes an offer. If anybody makes a toxic offer, the jazz will match it. I honestly don't think if someone offers him a max contract, first of all, no one's gonna do that because he had what five games into the season, then boom, he's done last year. Yeah. So like you're not gonna, he's not gonna get a max contract. We know ahead of time that the jazz offered him a $25 million per year contract extension, and he said, no, I don't want that. Like, that's not good enough. And that was before the season started. That was before the season started. Now, odds are, you know, is another team gonna offer him that? Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe not. But what it's what I actually want the jazz to do is just come to the table with $28 million a year and call it a day.

SPEAKER_02 35:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:57

You know, and then extend him out till you know on his rookie scale contract until he becomes an unrestricted free agent. But I think that number needs to come up a little bit because they're again the most dangerous word in basketball is potential. That's a four-letter word in basketball. Yes, it is. But when it comes to that, I think that what they need to do there is they need to make that offer, sweeten the deal because nobody else is going to offer him a max contract. And honestly, because he missed all of last year and the year prior to that, did not showcase well. And he also didn't showcase well at for USA basketball because he just simply just didn't get used by Steve Kerr. They just didn't use him.

SPEAKER_01 36:29

Right.

SPEAKER_00 36:29

His stock isn't as high everywhere else as it would be in Utah. So I think if you come up from that 25 million, you know, a little bit and and you know, I can make him feel good about it. Yeah, and honestly, I don't think he gets I don't I would love to have him sign with Utah without even really testing restricted free agency, but on the same token there, man, let him test it. As long as the jazz match it, I don't really care. Exactly. Let him be upset with his mark max contract here in Utah as long as he balls out, you know. Just come out and play Walker. That's all we want from you, buddy. Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 37:01

Yep, absolutely. So we had some other interesting jazz news, and uh it was kind of funny because the Jazz and the Kings they finished a season with identical records, right? And they split the four games they played this season, and the last time the Jazz beat the Kings on February 11th, it was bad. I mean, we we all knew that the Jazz weren't trying to win that game, but they secured that victory over the Kings in the middle of the season. And then now, once again, the Jazz secure another victory over the Kings, but this one's actually a good one. The Jazz win the tiebreaker. It was decided by a random drawing that um officially gave them the fourth best odds. It's a coin flip, right? It's not an actual coin flip, it's actually just a random drawing as well. Okay, fair. That's what it's referred to in the league. Just a random generation of drawing. Um, but that but winning the fourth best odds guarantees the jazz no lower than the eighth pick, which has finally ended the first round pick to OKZ drama.

SPEAKER_00 38:03

Let's let's do the celebration emoji right here. Throw it in there. If we had a button, we'd press that button.

SPEAKER_01 38:09

We we don't have any buttons, but yes, the the drama is over. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 38:13

So no more conveying and officially brings an end to the whole tanking so we can keep our pick. It's done.

SPEAKER_01 38:19

So the jazz, I mean now we just gotta wait till May 10th, right? NBA draft ladder comes up. We can just pray to the basketball gods that the jazz get the number one pick.

SPEAKER_00 38:28

Yeah, let's hope that that's not the the end of our luck here this offseason. Yes, exactly. The Jazz need a top three pick out of this draft man.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

They do.

SPEAKER_00 38:38

I just think they do to really kind of drive it home and finish this out. We need that top three pick because that is easily any one of the players in the top three would be a number one pick in almost any other draft.

SPEAKER_02 38:49

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 38:49

Uh with the exception of the one with Victor Wimanyama in it. He's gonna these guys would be the number one pick in almost every other draft. So now, according to the Hoops Nerd show, uh, which he didn't say he's very good at math, but how you can call yourself a hoops nerd if you're not good at math. But um anyway, I digress. When it comes to that, he said because with that, we now have a 45% chance of getting a top five pick. And we have a 44% chance of getting six or seven.

SPEAKER_01 39:17

Right.

SPEAKER_00 39:18

So with an 11.4 chance of getting a number one overall pick. And a 30, I think it said 38% chance or 36% chance and getting a top three pick.

SPEAKER_01 39:29

So we just know the jazz previous record of moving up in the draft, is non-existent.

SPEAKER_00 39:35

So depending on what that means, you know. Everybody says that, you know, oh, we never got up. But honestly, last year.

SPEAKER_01 39:42

I just want to know what it costs to buy the number one pick.

SPEAKER_00 39:44

Oh, it's I don't think it's a matter of cost.

SPEAKER_01 39:47

Really? How much how much you think Dallas had to pay for the number one pick, no, no, the NBA wanted that to happen.

SPEAKER_00 39:53

Oh, I know. The NBA wanted Luca in LA. So they made they they allowed that trap to draft to happen, they allowed that trade to happen when it came through. It's like, okay, what we're gonna do here is we're gonna give Dallas a number one overall pick just to settle that and kind of just deal with that.

SPEAKER_01 40:07

Yeah, you made that happen for us. We'll make this happen for you.

SPEAKER_00 40:10

Yeah, that's kind of how that happened. We got where we wanted, let's help you rebuild. But no, I honestly, man, when it comes to this, I hope this is not where the luck ends for Utah. But last year, the chances we had with the best odds we had was the number five pick. We had like a 47% chance of getting the number five overall pick, and we and that's what we got.

SPEAKER_01 40:30

So But we were the worst team in the league.

SPEAKER_00 40:33

Yeah, we had the top odds to get the number one pick and we didn't get it. Yeah, but it was only 11 point. That's the problem, is it was only 11% odds. So, like something's gonna change in it, whatever. Moving on. We need that top three pick. Let's hope for it. Pray to whoever you pray to. Um, you know, throw some salt on your shoulder, do whatever you gotta do. But we are like less than what, three weeks away now?

SPEAKER_02 40:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:52

So we'll see. Yeah, we'll see. It's coming. We want to hear from you folks. Let's know where your thoughts are in the comments down below from that. Um, and yeah, let's go ahead and talk a little bit about wait, where's our mouse? Here it is. That's why we need buttons. Uh, let's go ahead and talk a little bit about Major League Baseball, shall we? Let's do it. Yes, sir. All right, so um, yeah, let's go ahead and jump into it, man. Um, let's talk a little bit about some baseball, shall we?

SPEAKER_01 41:25

Yeah, yeah, let's jump into it. So, big news first topic on the docket. The San Diego Padres are finalizing a sale to investor Jose E. Feliciano and his wife Kowanza Jones for an MLB record $3.9 billion. So, when the previous beloved owner, Peter Seidler, died in 2023. Rest in peace. Uh, the family was pushing pretty hard to sell the team. You know, this was this was really driven by uh the need to manage the nearly billion dollars in guaranteed player contract is you know, obviously they needed to settle estate issues from the previous owner. So this ownership team is gonna face some pressure, right? I mean, they gotta they gotta maintain this high spending, you know, the team's been really competitive on the field. So there's lots of questions uh kind of surrounding this. But what is most interesting about the Padres cell to you, Darren?

SPEAKER_00 42:27

Oh my gosh, man. Okay. So okay. Let's take a step back from the cell. Yeah. Let's talk about these two. Let's talk about the ownership group of you know, Jose E. Feliciano, right? Feliciano. Feliciano. So sorry, my apologies. I've heard it both ways. Yeah, I have two. Jose is the co-founder of a um equity firm called Clear Lake Capital.

SPEAKER_01 42:52

That is correct.

SPEAKER_00 42:53

They own 61% of the Chelsea Football Club. There is a minority owner of that uh Chelsea football club. His name is Todd Abole, right? Todd Boley. Is that dumb name? Yeah. Again, one of those ones we probably heard both ways. Um, so if we said it wrong, you know, we've heard it both ways, so don't worry about it. Um, he is a minor owner of the Chelsea Football Club. Uh, Todd is also a 20% owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers, which is another NL West team. Mark Walter is a majority owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers and also part owner with Todd in Chelsea Football Club. And this is according to SI.com. The atmosphere between the two ownership groups is a civil war type vibe, and is suggested that there is bad blood between these two. So you have two ownerships of a premier, two ownership groups of the same premier football team not agreeing on how the team should be owned, and one team is throwing its higher ownership percentage around, and the other team is. Just not accepting it, not liking it. These two ownership groups do not like each other. So why am I bringing that up? Well, okay, so if Jose and his wife, Kwanzaa, don't like their minority owner, what do they do in spite of that? They go out and buy the only other for cell team that is directly in the same conference as the major league baseball team that they are the minority or majority owner of that team. So, with both of them owning a major league baseball franchise in the same division, the NL West is going to get very, very interesting, AJ.

SPEAKER_01 44:37

It sure is.

SPEAKER_00 44:39

It sure is. So anybody who knows ball knows that the Padres are not the Dodgers rival.

SPEAKER_01 44:45

Right.

SPEAKER_00 44:46

They're not. Who is the Dodgers rival, AJ? Actually, if you got this, I'd actually be kind of impressed. Giants. Nice. You got it. Nailed it. First try. First try. I've been hanging out with you a lot. The Dodgers rivals has been the Giants. It's always been that way back when they were both playing in New York. Do you know why the Mets colors are orange and uh blue? Um I don't. It's because it's to pay homage to the two teams that left New York, the Giants and the Dodgers.

SPEAKER_01 45:15

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 45:16

Yeah, because they were both New York teams back in the day. Um, but anyway, so anybody knows that it's the Giants that are the Dodgers rivals, right? I'm telling you, man, with two ownership groups that do not like each other, that both have infinite pockets that are gonna be going after each other in the same division, that could quickly change, my friend.

SPEAKER_01 45:35

That could make things real interesting.

SPEAKER_00 45:37

Yes, it definitely can. Right now, as of the time recording, the a the Dodgers and the Padres are tied for the top position in the NL West.

SPEAKER_01 45:47

That is kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_00 45:49

Yes, when it seemed like the Dodgers were running away with the division already. Yeah, they were the first team, 10 wins, first team to 15 wins. Looked like they could do no wrong. And then they got they lost two games in Colorado, but the Padres weren't losing. Yeah, the Padres weren't losing, man. And it's I'm sorry about the Pod. Yeah, the Padres weren't losing, and believe it or not, the Rockies actually took uh two games from uh the Blue Jays, too, which is really interesting.

SPEAKER_01 46:11

That's weird. I pretty I I'm pretty sure I recall somebody saying in their preseason prediction that the Rockies could make the playoffs.

SPEAKER_00 46:16

I don't know who that was.

SPEAKER_01 46:18

Wasn't it you?

SPEAKER_00 46:18

No. I thought you said the Rockies could. No, I said they make it above five. I think they can make it to 500. Oh but they're not gonna make it to the playoffs. Absolutely not. The team that's gonna make the playoffs is going to be uh I said the team that's gonna make the playoffs is the A's.

SPEAKER_01 46:31

Oh, the A's, that's right. Yeah, the fair enough.

SPEAKER_00 46:34

San Francisco A's of Oakland.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

Don't even try to figure it out, dude.

SPEAKER_00 46:40

It's just gonna hurt your soul. But yeah, so that could quickly change, man. And as it sits right now, the new ownership group's not messing around. They actually signed Lucas Giolito. I saw that today, right? Yeah, they signed him today. The free agent pitcher apparently free agency is continuing in Major League Baseball. Just keeps going. They signed and Ligos Giolito is no snotch, man. He's a good pitcher. He's the one you always recommend reference when you say somebody who successfully survived two Tommy Johns. He's the dude, like he's that dude. So they're gonna ramp him up, get him out there. But yeah, apparently the new ownership, not messing around, they're spending some money already. So you love to see it. We'd love to see it. I don't know. Should the Dodgers be scared? Who knows? Uh so we want to hear what you guys think. Yeah, let us know.

SPEAKER_01 47:20

Should the Dodgers be worried about the Padres?

SPEAKER_00 47:22

Yeah, we want to hear from you. Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.

SPEAKER_01 47:26

So there's there's another interesting topic going on in baseball. And Greg, thanks for helping us out earlier in the show on this uh this particular topic. So there's there was few teams that have been talked about more over the last couple off seasons than the New York Mets. Right? These guys went out there and got Ju Soto two years ago, paid him like $400 trillion. Okay, maybe it was 15 years, $765 million. You choose. I've heard it both ways. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Um, but then last year, they it seemed like they were ready to step into contention. They go out and get um Luis Robert Jr. from the White Sox to cover center field. They paid him a $20 million contract for a year. They got a team option for the next year. They signed Bo Bachette to a three-year deal worth $126 million, which comes out to $42 million a year. Um, keep in mind the 27 and 28 seasons for him are player options because there's so many players in the league that turned down $42 million a year. Right. Um, they add Freddie, Freddie Peralta for $8 million a year, Jorge Polanco for uh to a two-year, $40 million deal. They trade for Marcus Simeon, who was on a seven-year, $175 million deal. Um, he's got three years left on that deal, by the way. So these guys spend so much money this offseason. Estimated payroll for 2026 is $370 million.

SPEAKER_00 48:50

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 48:52

And how are they doing, Darren?

SPEAKER_00 48:54

Oh, uh they're in last place, my friend. Uh what do you mean they're in last? They just spent $370 million. They're in dead last place in the division. And that's in the same division with the Florida Marlins, by the way. Who's bad?

SPEAKER_01 49:09

Yes, the Marlins are bad, and they have not spent that much money.

SPEAKER_00 49:12

No, no. Ironically, uh, which team has made more money? The Dodgers or the Marlins last year?

SPEAKER_01 49:17

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 49:18

The Marlins. The Marlins made more money last year. Yeah, believe it or not. That's how baseball works, folks. Um, teams that actually spend money don't make any, and the teams that don't spend what cry about being poor and make all the money. Uh, but yeah, so according to but at the time of recording, now apparently that just changed, but they did uh go on a 12-game losing streak, which is you know terrible um for our team like this. Really terrible. Yes, they just won, so good for them. Uh, but yeah, um actually we have a comp we have an update here. Let's go ahead and get this one on the screen here. Greg Hopkins. Greg Hawkins. Uh the Mets are now tied. Hopkins better. Hopkins, too, yeah. It's a name you want to have, you know. Yeah. Um, but anyway, so the Mets are now tied for last with the Phillies, who are currently on an eight-game losing streak themselves and have the fifth highest payroll in baseball. Oh, we're getting to that. We're getting to that.

SPEAKER_01 50:06

Also, just for the record, that Phillies' eight-game losing streak was very much thanks to the brave sweep that they handed out.

SPEAKER_00 50:12

Yeah, it's just a little broom right there. A little dustpan. Get that out there. Go braves. So, yeah, according to sporttrack.com, the Mets actually have the highest payroll in actual money that's owed in $333 million. The Dodgers are at $297 million. So I think with both of those are those are both not including penalties and correct overges and stuff like that. That is correct. That didn't work. Technically, on money-wise, that just the player to the players, the Mets actually have the highest payroll in baseball. So, what happened to buying championships, AJ?

SPEAKER_01 50:42

Well, I mean, you can't just buy championships, dude. You can't just go out there and spend all the money in the world and then just win back-to-back championships.

SPEAKER_00 50:49

No, no, you definitely cannot. You definitely cannot. And we actually talked about this last week. We did. So I know it's early, and the Mets, you know, they do have the second highest payroll in baseball. They had it last year, actually. They had the second highest payroll in last year, which is funny, AJ, because who missed the playoffs last year? I believe that would be the oh, yeah, that's right, the New York Mets. That's right. So again, top three payroll in baseball doesn't promise you anything, it doesn't mean anything.

SPEAKER_01 51:16

They did pay one soto like $400 trillion. Don't forget that.

SPEAKER_00 51:19

Yes, exactly. $400 trillion. Um, so why are they bad, AJ? Well, first of all, they're old, right? You take so so Soto out of the out of the game, which he took himself out of the game, which if anybody thought he was going to make a 15-year contract without getting hurt several times, was not paying attention. You can't be that durable for that long in your career and not get hurt. So anybody's like, oh my gosh, signs that contract immediately gets hurt. Yeah, it was coming, dude. It was happening.

SPEAKER_01 51:42

But also, you find it's time to do a 15-year deal so that you could reallocate some of that money over a 15-year contract.

SPEAKER_00 51:48

Yeah, exactly. Um, so anyway, you take Soto out. You got a bunch of old dudes on this team, people on the wrong side of 30. Yeah. I mean, Bo is 28, but he's coming off of uh a leg thing from last year, and he's also playing out of position. He's playing third base when he's a natural shortstop. Um Lindor's 32, he's your shortstop, 32. Uh, you mentioned Marcus Simeon, he's 35, and you're second baseman. Uh Louis Rueber Jr., he's 29. But again, that guy's made a glass, and he hasn't been the same since Jose Ramirez you know knocked him clean out. Uh that's a good point. Uh his whole career changed at that point, right there. Yeah, he's never been injured, he's never been healthy. Did sign a big contract, though. Did sign a fat contract.

SPEAKER_01 52:28

Yeah, 20 million a year. Third highest play is pay third highest paid player on the Mets on the Mets payroll.

SPEAKER_00 52:34

Which is insulting for that. Yeah. So we did talk about this last week. Who's the glue guy of the Dodgers? Um, oh, easy, Max Muncie. Exactly. In fact, they traded him last year for the Mets. The Mets traded their Max Muncie, and that's Brendan Nimo. You know who they traded him for? Marcus Sieman. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. They're like, we got a glue guy. Get rid of him. Let's get somebody else in here. Yeah. And then they also got rid of their Freddie Freeman, who was Pete Alonzo, his first baseman. Uh, now he's you know, he took a walk over to Baltimore. He signed a contract there, a six-year deal over there in Baltimore. Yeah. So you got rid of your uh franchise player in Pete Alonso, and you got rid of your glue guy, Brandon Nimba, who's also homegrown. And then you bring in a bunch of you bring in Freddie Peralta, who's one and two so far this year with an over four ERA, and you trade away a bunch of your depth to get them. Now, luckily, they still have a top five farm system in that, but that's kind of my point, man. You can't just buy a team and win the press conference. You can't just sign talent. You need the Max Muncie's, you need the Pajes.

SPEAKER_01 53:39

They won the press conference, though.

SPEAKER_00 53:40

Oh, they totally won it. Yeah, totally want it.

SPEAKER_01 53:42

They won the offseason for sure. Because on paper, looking at it, you're like, this team could be really good. They just signed a bunch of talent, they just paid a bunch of money for all these guys.

SPEAKER_00 53:51

You think that the ownership uh and the front office of the Mets would have figured this out when they did the whole when they signed Max Scherzer and um what's his name? Verlander. Yeah, and then immediately regretted it and trade them both to two different Texas teams within the same year. Split them up, that'll help. Yeah, that'll help us. And they're still paying a lot of their contracts, right? Like, so you think they would have learned their listen, but no, you gotta understand you have to not only buy talent, yes, when it comes available, but two, you got to maintain your own talent, which you had in Pete Alonso and Brandon Nemo, but you also have to develop like your paw he has and stuff like that, and get these guys that are not necessarily the top of the order, but the ones that come through and the ones that come through your system. That's what's important in baseball. You can spend all the money you want. The Yankees have been top five in payroll for you know the last five, six years. And in one of those years, they also didn't make it the playoffs either. So, this whole notion or that you know spending money will buy you a championship. Ask Mets fans how that's going for them.

SPEAKER_01 54:48

Uh, I don't think you want to because they probably won't love that comment very much. Yeah, well let us know if you're a Mets fan. Go ahead and tune into the comments.

SPEAKER_00 54:55

Yeah, let us know. Let us know. Um, yeah, so congrats on getting that win today, guys. Uh apparently, yeah, they traded for uh Luke Weaver. They're obsessed with stealing uh Yankees players, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 55:07

They're just like come across the subway.

SPEAKER_00 55:09

Yeah, it's just really weird. Really, really weird.

SPEAKER_01 55:11

I feel like it's so much more convenient because we don't have to pay him to relocate.

SPEAKER_00 55:14

I guess so. I guess so. Um, but yeah, so it's gonna be kind of interesting, man. Uh, a couple of comments we want to hit there from Greg Hawkins on this one. Cubs have won eight straight. Let's go. Let's go, Cubs. We got the Cubs and Dodgers this Friday at 8 10 p.m. on Apple TV. Thanks. Sweet. Can you just see that? Top three teams and run differential. Greg, you just know how to hit you know how to hit the comments hard on this one. And this is perfect. The top three teams and run differentials are the Braves, Dodgers, and Cubs.

SPEAKER_01 55:42

Go Braves.

SPEAKER_00 55:43

You love to see it. You love to see it.

SPEAKER_01 55:45

You really do. I mean, especially for three people on the same in the same communication.

SPEAKER_00 55:49

Yeah, go braves. Exactly. You gotta love it. Yeah. So um, yeah, speaking of which, speaking of uh, you know, run differential and you know, speaking of you mentioned the Dodgers twice there, so I got you know, we gotta talk about the Dodgers. We gotta break in, yeah. Absolutely. We gotta talk about the Dodgers, yeah. Uh so um Shoey Otani did it again, my friend. He set the all only a record that only he can. By the way, we need a link uh video to it somewhere of the greatest of all time conversation. Probably up there, right up there, yeah. Okay, um, but anyway, so did you hear about the record that Shoey Otani broke?

SPEAKER_01 56:23

I mean, I heard about him reaching reaching base in 53 straight regular season games.

SPEAKER_00 56:28

Yes, but before that happens, uh he actually reached base on 43 games, um, which broke uh the most for the Japanese-born player for Michiro.

SPEAKER_01 56:38

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_00 56:39

And he also, the most important part about that is AJ is also in the middle of a 32 scoreless inning streak as well.

SPEAKER_01 56:46

That is very impressive, dude.

SPEAKER_00 56:48

So the two-way conversation, I mentioned this in that previous video. Yes, that needs to go to bed because now Shoe Otani has set the record for having uh 32 innings scoreless inning streaks at the same time of being on base 43 games in a row. Yeah, that's the only player to ever do it in history. Babe Ruth did it, but he did it on two separate times in two different seasons. So the two-way title has to belong to Shoei Otani. I think we need to put that one to bed.

SPEAKER_02 57:15

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:16

Anyway, yeah, congratulations to Shoei Otani. I think that's awesome. Um, we want to hear from you folks there. Are you an Otani lover, hater? We want to hear it. Absolutely. We sure do.

SPEAKER_01 57:24

On the on the Otani situation, did you see the Blue Jays comment? No, so the the Blue Jays, the head coach of the Blue Jays, said that they planned on putting Shohei Otani on base during game three of the World Series. No kidding, purely in an attempt to tire him out before he was planned to pitch for game four. Oh, they said they did it on purpose, and that was a long game. That was a long game, smart. So they said that they did it on purpose. That's why they took they gave him so many intentional walks because he's a base running fool. They're like, if we can get him on base and make him run some more, maybe that will tire him out smart before he pitches for game four. Did you didn't see that?

SPEAKER_00 58:05

No, that is brilliant, though. Crazy, yeah. Absolutely brilliant. I love it. Did you hear what um the Cubs manager had to say about Shoyotani? No, yeah, basically calling out the Dodgers, saying it's cheating that the Dodgers get to have one extra player because of Shoyo Tani. Do they get to have one extra player? No, they don't. Everybody has a 26-man roster, and the difference is the Dodgers get to have one more pitcher because he gets because he's a player. He gets to because every other team will have 13 pitchers, 13 position players, right? But because you have Otani, you technically get to have 13 players, but he's also a pitcher, but he doesn't count as one, so you technically get 14 pitchers. So the Dodgers get 14 pitchers and 13 position players. So you only have a 26-man roster, but you basically have 27 players on your team because he is a starting pitcher, too. So I mean, go out and find yourself a two-way player. That's exactly what Dave Roberts said. Roberts said he is a unique talent and he has a unique rule, nothing's stopping anybody from out the room.

SPEAKER_01 59:09

And I'm not saying I'm like, but I just feel like that's that is a very like void point. Yeah, because if anybody else had a pitcher that could hit like Shohi Otani, they're gonna be using them.

SPEAKER_00 59:22

Yes, yeah. I like this comment. This basically like Shoei Otani counts as two, and it's yeah, um, yeah, it's the Cubs Manager that was saying this, and I I think it's funny is that everybody's coming out and saying this, but no one seemed to care when he was on the angels. This wasn't a problem. The two-way Otani rule was a rule that was established in 2022 when he was still with the Angels. No one cared then. They only seem to care now when he's on the Dodgers.

SPEAKER_01 59:45

Now they're cheating. The Dodgers are cheating now.

SPEAKER_00 59:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:48

Only now.

SPEAKER_00 59:49

Yeah. I mean, I will go back and say a little bit there. I I think I kind of understand a little bit. Oh, Tani's getting extra time and when he and starts to get ramped up, you know, in between innings. There's a little bit of that there, which I think is fair. Uh, but it's really funny it's coming from uh George Springer in the World Series where he's like, Why is he getting to pitch so long? This is ridiculous. Why is he getting so much time? And when they were when the Blue Jays played uh the Dodgers, he did it again. He's like, Oh, why is he getting so much time? It's really funny to hear from George Springer, a former Texas, no Houston Astro player, accusing another player of cheating. Right. That's just that's just really funny to me. Yeah, I I I gotta I get a good take out of that.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:35

You sure that's where you want to go with this? Yeah, are you sure about that?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:38

Yeah, just like what are we doing here? What are we doing here? Um, no one cares because the Angels were bad. Yeah, it only matters when the team's good, right? Meanwhile, the Dodgers are on a generational run. Yeah, and you gotta knock down the people on the top while they're up there. Um, but yeah, anyway, so talking about people on the top, AJ. Yeah. Uh let's go ahead and break into it, man. So the power rankings came out on Monday, and there's been a lot of change. Um, why don't you go ahead and break down the the top three for us?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:05

Well, I don't have this one in front of me, actually. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:09

Well, here you go.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:10

I missed perfect. Oh, well now they can see my screen. Okay, we're good. That's kind of where I figured we were at. Okay. Number one, Dodgers. Same as last week. Number two, Atlanta Braves. There you go. Please hold the applause. Hold the applause. I can't hear three. I can't hear it anyway.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:30

Yeah, up from three, uh, which was a big jump for them. When you're in the top five, any change is kind of big. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:37

They look like one of the best teams in baseball right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:39

They definitely do. And that's kind of my argument. I'd say with the Dodgers dropping two to the Colorado Rockies, did your team lose two to the Colorado Rockies? The Braves have not lost a series this season. Technically, that isn't a loss, it's a push. But the Dodgers have lost a series. And that's kind of my point, though. Yeah. Is that the Braves have not lost a series so far this season. The Dodgers have. So yeah, you got an argument there, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:04

It's because they're the Dodgers, though.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:06

You know, and I don't, and I, and I'm not saying that offensively. You know what I mean? But you're the world, you're the defending two-time world champions. You're still winning a uh a ton of baseball games, and the Braves look good, but look great. But they've had a few games where it's like, uh-oh. Right. You know what I mean? Like, you know, Reynaldo Lopez came out last night and really, really struggled in like four innings. And you know, that that was that was our first loss in six games. Yeah. You know, the last loss was Chris Dale came out and just absolutely fell apart through four innings. Um, and his only loss this season, and he's three and one, I believe, now in his four starts. So they're you know, the but the Braves look good, man. Defense, their offense has been fantastic. Matt Olsen's all of a sudden turned his bat on after in the last four or five games. I think he's got four home runs in the last five games. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:59

Well, that's good because yeah, that trade where they traded for him and didn't sign Freddie Freeman. I'm like, what are you doing? Like, yeah, comparatively, the production that between Freddie Freeman and Matt Olson hasn't even been close. Right, you know, so you're kind of like, so it's nice to kind of see him come around there, the hometown kid. Uh the Bray, the Padres are number three. Uh, this was before the cell was finalized and everything. Really cool to see them um at the number three spot because again, having this team uh in the same division as the Dodgers is gonna be nice because it's gonna be nice to have the Dodgers actually have something to play for uh throughout the rest of the season, which is something I'll get into in Greg's comment here in a minute. Uh, but uh yeah, it's kind of nice to actually have a reason to want to play the regular season for the Dodgers.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:40

Yeah. Yeah, like they need to win. Yeah, they gotta keep winning. They can't take a bunch of early losses.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:46

Yeah, number four is the Yankees, down from number two down to number four. But the one that I actually want to talk about here, and sorry, as Yankees fans, we're skipping right over yet, but you're still in the top five, so just be happy about it. Yeah, be happy. Number five is the Pittsburgh Pirates, AJ. The Pittsburgh Pirates are number five on the power rankings this year, this week. Are the Pirates playing that good a baseball? They are playing that good a baseball right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:10

That is impressive. So kind of I have not seen a Pirates game. I'm gonna be honest. I've seen a probably the Braves are at 24. I've probably seen 20 brave games, Braves games so far this season.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:20

Yeah, so the price for pirates do have a brave player on there. So I was wondering what, you know, might want to catch one of those. Marcel Azuna is on the Pittsburgh Pirates. Yeah, but he's not a brave anymore. No, so he doesn't. He's dirt to you, right? He's dirt. Yeah. So um, speaking of which the pirates, congratulations to the pirates. I think that's awesome. You got Paul Skeens on your team. How is Ozuna playing? Has he been playing okay? I don't know. I haven't looked it up. I don't watch a lot of Pittsburgh Pirates games either. You don't either. It's the Pirates, dude. Who cares? Uh but anyway, so something did happen. There's a very much uh a viral moment that happened with the Pittsburgh Pirates. Did you see this? So Jake uh Jake Maggum, uh Mangum uh created a viral moment, and this was on the 19th of uh April. He's tossing a base, he tossed a baseball to a fan wearing his jersey, right? He threw it up to her. Her brother, his brother, her brother said he'd catch it for her, he caught it for her, and the brother gave the ball to her, and he immediately gave it to her. She hugged her brother and just immediately started crying, was super excited that she got the ball from her favorite player. It was a nice little heartwarming thing between siblings, and it happened on national TV, created this viral moment, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:28

Now, we always like to trash on the pirates and the owner Bob Nutting for the way he's running his team, and you know, none of this changes that, by the way. But when he saw that, Bob Nutting, the owner of the Pirates, great last name, by the way, uh, is inviting his family to join him in his suite in an upcoming home game to get to watch.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:53

That's really cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:54

And before the game, he that little girl gets to meet Jake Mag Mangum before. The game, dude. You can't beat that. So that is that is pretty cool as an owner. Very cool as an owner. Yeah. While we don't like how you're running your team, you gotta tip your cap to the owner who actually understands what's important about baseball, and that's the kids. You had that viral moment between a brother and his sibling, his sister, and have an owner to see, like, okay, that's baseball right there.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:19

And to level it up. Good on you, man. Tip of the DNA sports recap to Bob Nutting, which is something I never thought I'd say. Yeah. Uh but congrats, dude. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:28

Also, for the record, uh, Marcelo Zuno's playing um not great this year. So he's got 73 at bats, scored six runs. Batting averages at 178. Um, he's got 20 strikeouts. He has hit two home runs. Not the best season for the big bear. Definitely not. Definitely not. Um, so considering he was hitting almost 300 all last season with the Braves.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:51

Well, you know, you can't, not everybody can play well when they leave Atlanta, you know. Hey, go Braves. Except for Max Fried. Oh, Freddie Freeman. That's not, that's not whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:05

Okay, it doesn't matter. Go Braves anyway.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:07

So uh before we before we jump off on that, there's uh one thing I want to talk about when it comes to Major League Baseball, and that is uh jerseys. We talked last week about our favorite um jerseys that were coming up for sale. Yep. And uh let's see here. Let's go with this. Is this the one I was looking for? Here it is. I hate this when you try and pull up a um thing here. It doesn't really work the way you want it to work. Uh let's see here. Okay. So you wanna see you wanna hear the list. I do want to hear the list. So the top selling list in Major League Baseball. Take a guess who's the top three.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:06

Uh Shohei Otani.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:09

Show Tony. Mike Trout. Nope. If I can get this to actually pull up what I want to pull up.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:15

Who would be next? Aaron Judge.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:17

Nope. I can't believe I can't pull this up. Okay. Otani's number one though, for sure. Tommy's number one. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:27

Um number two.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:28

Who's the next most popular baseball player? I would I would say Aaron Judge would probably be. Is he number three?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:35

Nope, not number three. So the top one is Shoey Otani. Number two is going to be uh Yoshinobu Yamamoto.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:44

You're kidding me.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:45

No, so the top two selling jerseys of Major League Baseball right now is going to be Dodger players.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:51

Number three is Aaron Judge. You're correct on that one.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:54

Okay. And number four is Cal Raleigh, Seattle Mariners. Number five, Mookie Betts. So three out of the top five are Dodger players. And if you go into the top ten, that adds Freddie Freeman in there too. But is there any brave players in the top ten? Uh no. None of the top ten. Uh, but do you want to know this is a rigged system? But do you want to know who's got more Jersey sales than Bryce Harper, Juan Soto, Vladimir Guerrero Jr., uh Francisco Lindor, Ronald Acunio Jr., Paul Schienes, Josh Naylor, and Christian Yelich? I do. Kike Hernandez. Kike! I don't I don't hate that at all. It's not a nice little throw that out there. It's not a little fun thing to say. Number 12.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:37

I want to know people that like, because I'm not a Dodgers fan, right? But are you are people that not Dodgers fans, are you guys also fans of Kike Hernandez? Oh, he's so awesome. He's so funny, dude. Watch any of his interviews and then tell me how you can't love him.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:51

Do you know what his you know what he said what he'd be doing right now if he wasn't playing baseball? No. He said I'd probably be a stripper. Yeah, that sounds like a Kike answer. Yeah. Number 12. Number 12. 12 most selling uh jersey in Major League Baseball, Kike Hernandez.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:07

Um he's not even like a full-time starter for that team, isn't he?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:10

No, he's not, he hasn't even started playing this year yet. Um, but yeah, number 17 is Ronald Cunho Jr., which is the only brave on the list. Go Braves. Uh Pico Anstrom is number 10, by the way, Greg. So um really good. Yeah, so it's really cool. I thought that was a fun little thing there. I want to throw there at the end of the episode there. Um, I a couple things here we want to talk about. First is the Dodgers are playing a different strategy than the rest of us. Early losses mean nothing to LA. Absolutely. As long as going into October, everybody's healthy, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:41

But you also want to win your division, though. Do we? Do you not? Do you I mean against the well, you got the Padres in there?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:51

True. Now we do. But like right, now it's gonna be an issue. But um honestly, you know, that would that would actually just be terrible where you go into the go to the playoffs, you win. This actually happened. You win the division, and then you immediately get knocked out in the first round by a wildcard team that's you know, so like it's what happened when the Dodgers and the Giants both made the playoffs. The Giants won the division, the Dodgers won the wildcard. It's the only time the Dodgers have lost the division in 15 years straight. Now they've won the division every single year, and yeah, uh, they mainly drove the Dodgers and then lost it in five games to the Dodgers. Yeah, so uh that happens. Anyway, um, last comment here we got from Greg Hawkins is the entire NL Central is playing lights out. Dude, that is right now. That's so true. So um, except for the Brewers, aren't they in last place right now, too? Brewers are 13 and 10.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:45

No, I could have sworn they are. Who am I thinking of? The pirates are thirty, they're tied with the pirates at 13 and 10. Oh, okay. Yeah. So, I mean, the pirates are. I mean, you were just saying how pirates are in the in the power rankings. The Reds are top of the top of that division right now, 16 and 9. Yeah, gosh. Cubs are 15 and 9.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:05

Yeah, reds 16 and 9.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:07

Cardinals, Brewers, Pirates. My goodness. That is a that is a tough division right now. Holy cow. Wow, where'd that come from? I know those none of those teams are teams you'd think would have a record like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:20

By the way, the Brewers are the last place in their division, so I was right. Thank you. Are they? Yeah, they're the last place of their division. They're 13 and 10, uh, two games back of the Reds, who are 16 and 9 in their division.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:31

So see, that's weird because mine shows them tied with the Pirates at 13 and 10.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:36

Uh the Pirates are 14 and 10.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:38

Oh, okay. Maybe this didn't matter. I'm on the MLB app. Okay. So I don't know. Fair enough. All I know is Braves are 17 and 8. We've seen it both ways, right? Yeah, I've seen it both ways.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:47

Yeah, exactly. That's the one. Yeah, 17 and 8. Yeah, I see that too. Yeah. Um, yeah. Technically the Dodgers are tied for the pod tied with the Padres for first place, 16 and 7. Diamondbacks, they are in the power rankings too. We just didn't talk about them because they're a little lower. Uh, they jumped up. They're 13 and 10. Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:09

What's crazy is that Mets and Phillies, dude, both those teams at 8 and 16.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:14

Yeah, but again, you know, the the Phillies just basically re-signed all their own talent. They win $300 million in debt to re-sign their own talent, which didn't, you know, get them where they wanted to be last year.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:24

Didn't put them in the position they wanted, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:26

No, exactly. And then they also signed uh who they signed. No, their best pitcher signed with uh Ranger Suarez. Who do you end up going? Uh who you have been going with? DM going to New York? Oh, that'd be so sad. DM going to the Mets. Where'd he end up at? No, Red Sox. He went to the Red Sox. Uh Red Sox, yeah. Ranger Suarez is good too. Big brain. Uh, for baseball stuff. Anything else out of that's completely gone. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so really interesting, man. I could talk baseball all day, and I'm pretty sure uh you can too, AJ. But I'm pretty sure the people watching us right now are tired of listening to us talk yammer on for, you know. Oh, wait, we got another comment here. Let's get it. The Phillies signed a great group. Uh, they are two or three years past their window.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:10

Yes. Yeah, that's a great one. That's exactly the problem, though. They overachieved last year. They got to they overachieved last year and they signed a great group of guys that were good two to three years ago, and now they're they're all teetering on the edge of their window of greatness.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:24

Yeah. Like if if you need to, you can't have Bryce Harper and Kyle Schwarber on the same team. Exactly. They need to be a Freddie Freeman.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:33

You know, the third or fourth best player on a on the team.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:36

And then you're great, but you have to bring in some guys that are that that need an opportunity to turn the corner and make their whole franchise a little bit better. And neither and and none of the guys that the Phillies re-signed are capable of that.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:48

They went after Bo Bachet and missed, but I'm pretty sure they're pretty happy with it now. I mean, they did he's not really doing anything for the Mets. Yeah. Um ended up on the other team. Yeah. So anyhow, I think it's really funny. The Mets are very much like the Yankees, which is funny because they're both in New York. But when Wansoto went down, that team sucks. When Judge goes down, the Yankees can't buy a win either. Like it's it's just kind of funny how those two teams are led by their generational talent. And then, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:12

It shows the Braves are scary, though. We lost a couple starting pitchers right at the beginning of the season.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:16

Yes. Oh, point of correct point of order there on a baseball thing. We have to talk about. Um, you only have one ace on your team.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:23

Is it Chris Sale?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:24

No. Your ace is Spencer Strider. How is Chris Sale not an ace? You can only have one ace on your team, unless you're the Dodgers. I choose Chris Sale. Yeah, okay. So I'll take Quadzilla on your team. He's like with our aces not in the lineup. So you even said it, and Chris Sale is in your lineup, so you you you didn't say your ace in the lineup. Oh, yeah.

unknown 1:15:46

Damn it.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:47

But you said your aces, and technically you only have you can only allow you're only allowed one ace on a team.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:51

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:51

It's your game one opening day starter and your game one starter in the playoffs. That's your ace. And only like really five teams have a real true ace. Uh, and I think that the Braves do have one because Spencer Strider I think qualifies. Um, but anyway, so I just thought it'd be fun. Anyway, uh, we want to hear from you folks. Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below. Who's the ace of your staff for the team that you like? We want to hear from you. Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below. And are they as good as Spencer Strider? Exactly. If you're watching this on our live stream, again, folks, it is available as an audio podcast. So if you missed part of the show, be sure to check it out on audio. It's available wherever you get your podcast. Um, I just said your line. You did.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:25

It's fine.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:29

Yeah, I don't even know what to say now. What's the other side of it? I don't even remember. Uh, anyway, folks, again, thank you very much for watching this episode of the DNA sports recap. We're excited to have you here. Or for listening.

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