Darryn Peterson Shines! Jazz's Next Move + MLB ABS Retiring Umpires, Dalton Rushing Rd 3 LOL Mets

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🏀 We give our first impressions of Darryn Peterson after his Summer League debut and discuss what his performance could mean moving forward. We also dive into the Utah Jazz front office's new direction, what it says about the franchise's future, and the biggest question facing the roster: Who is playing center for the Jazz this season?

⚾ Over in Major League Baseball, we discuss how the Automated Ball-Strike (ABS) system could be pushing traditional umpires toward early retirement. Plus, Dalton Rushing continues to make life miserable for the Rockies, and we ask the tough question every Mets fan is thinking: Is it finally time for the LOL Mets to throw in the towel?

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

You are looking live here in beautiful Salt Lake City here at DNA HQ. My name is Darren. That is AJ. What is going on, my friend?

SPEAKER_00 0:08

Not much, buddy. I'm just I'm just here to enjoy another beautiful week of sports recapping. I know exactly. That's what I'm here for.

SPEAKER_02 0:15

That's what we're here for. Hopefully that's what you guys are here for.

SPEAKER_00 0:18

Really hot day outside today. Very hot.

SPEAKER_02 0:20

Very, very hot.

SPEAKER_00 0:21

Yeah, 95 degrees is too hot for Utah.

SPEAKER_02 0:23

Absolutely, it is. Absolutely is. AJ, I need to tell you something. Okay. This is the first time in Utah Jazz DNA history that we are streaming live on Utah Jazz DNA. That is correct. Exciting day. Very exciting. Very exciting day. Very exciting. Let us know if you're joining us live on Utah Jazz DNA or if you're joining us live on our main channel, DNA Sports Recap. Uh, you know, we're trying to do something new here, so let us know um how you guys are liking it. We're gonna see. Hopefully, we can get interaction on both channels in the live stream. Sorry, within the chat there, and we'll figure all that out. So absolutely. This one is gonna be a work in progress this first week. So please be kind to us on the production here. We're gonna try our best here. Uh once again, folks, this is a live show. So if you're watching this live on DNA sports recap or Utah Jazz DNA, make sure you jump into the chat. We want to interact with you live during the show. Uh, please comment on what we're talking about because we'd like to stop what we're talking about to chat with y'all.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

Makes it so much more fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:18

It does, it really does. It's a great way to get this onto YouTube quickly. And you know, it makes it funner to do it live because we're actually talking with you guys. So uh be sure to join us. Be sure to jump into the live stream. Let us know in the chat where you're watching from and what your favorite color is. AJ wants to know.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

Red.

SPEAKER_02 1:34

That's right. As long as it's red. Uh, with that all said, AJ, let's go ahead and jump into it. Let's talk a little bit about Utah Jazz basketball.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

Let's do it. Before we get into the content, we'd like to encourage you to join the conversation in the comments down below. While you're down there, consider subscribing to Utah Jazz DNA. Smash that like button for your boy Darren.

SPEAKER_02 1:59

That's right. All right, man. Let's go ahead and get into it, man. The first subject we want to talk about is hey AJ, stop me if you heard this one. Okay, I'm ready. I know I said this last week, but it bears repeating. Uh the Utah Jazz draft draft a guard, right? Yep. That guard signs with Adidas to a massive deal. And then he goes and balls out in Salt Lake City Summer League. Um our guy, future statue, um, hashtag future statue, let's start it. You know, I want to I want it to be a thing.

SPEAKER_01 2:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:30

Darren Peterson, man, hat made great first impressions for the Utah Jazz and the Jazz Faithful there, AJ. Uh in his debut against the Hawks, he scored 28 points on 11 for 21 shooting, 54% from the field, 57% from three. Uh he also had five rebounds, two assists, two blocks, and he sold three bags of popcorn that day. Um He did it all. For those of you in the comments, that was not a lit, that's not a I was being sarcastic. Okay. Um, but you know, he did underneath, and he did that all, AJ, with an under 28 minutes on the court.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:05

Funny enough though, he had a negative one on the plus-minus box uh that game. Oh because of the eight turnovers he had. Ouch! Yeah, eight turnovers. Uh next game was more balanced, and what I really love about that before we get to the next game was the one thing he mentioned on the press conference when he was after the game, he talked about he's like, How did it feel to have the ball in your hands? He's like, look at it. He's like, I think I had a bunch of turnovers. We look at it, he's like, Yeah, we got to clean that up. I gotta be better at that. Next game, more balanced approach. His efficiency wasn't as great. Um, he was going up against the number three pick uh in the draft, which was Cam Boozer. Uh, and you know, the rest of the Grizzlies were also there. Um, but he scored 25 points in this game, eight for 13 for shooting for 53%, not bad. Uh was not great from three, uh, scoring only 33% there. So a little so a little less efficient there, but he added 12 assists, AJ, two steals, and only two turnovers in this game.

SPEAKER_01 3:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:58

So literally fixing the one big issue that he had in game one. You gotta you'll love to see it, AJ.

SPEAKER_00 4:03

For the record, I think it would be a lot cooler if the summer league games they just did a 1v1 tournament. Like if you've got two top 10 picks, they should have to play like like 1v1 to like five.

SPEAKER_02 4:13

Yeah, NBA Summer League, you know, we're available for consulting. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

Small fee. We're here, very small fee.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

At DNA Sports Recap at gmail.com.

SPEAKER_00 4:23

Yeah. And I think I was most impressed with like just his poise. Like he, like you mentioned, like in his post-game recap, to say that he realized he had a bunch of turnovers and he he wanted to clean that up for the next game, and then he goes ahead and he just does it. You know, he goes out there and he he he did exactly what he was shooting to do. I mean, the level of basketball that he last played in college, even though it was NCAA tournament, right? Kansas was in there, they were playing in some tough games. It is absolutely nothing compared to the to the to stepping on a floor with the nine other guys that are all borderline NBA players, right? Right? The the players on your team are better, the players on the other team are better. Um, you know, these are all guys that like were the best players at their college, the best player at their high school. I mean, these guys even probably got their jerseys hung up their high school. That's the level of you're playing with at every single guy. So that's a huge leap. And and I was really excited to kind of see how he would produce, you know, on an NBA level, you know, floor. And he just he didn't appear to be rushed, he wasn't uncomfortable. I mean, he looked for the right play. Um he didn't seem pressured to score or pass, he just kind of made a read and played basketball. And it was really refreshing to see. I think he's got a beautiful quick release shot. I mean, it's accurate, he makes really good decisions, and and while he's on the floor, you can just kind of see that there's a different energy with whoever he's playing with. I watched the first summer league game start to finish. It was just really fun to watch him be out there, and I just think he's gonna fit in so well with the actual Jazz roster, right? I mean, when you go out there with guys like Lari and Key, I think it's gonna take a ton more pressure off of him, which is which is super uh good for him as a player, as a young player. You know, I he's gotta be feeling some p some pressure with the Summer League roster to be live up to that number two hype, right?

SPEAKER_02 6:13

Yeah, there were some times where he should have passed um in in some of those pick and roll situations where he didn't any any force of shot. The shot went in, you know. So kudos to him. But yeah, I really think the eight turnovers had a lot to do with the roster, not necessarily just him.

SPEAKER_00 6:28

Right.

SPEAKER_02 6:29

That number's probably around four-ish with an NBA roster.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

Yeah, yeah. And that's I mean, that's just the thing, though, is he's he is still learning, you know, this speed, and it's gonna get faster, but it didn't seem like it was gonna be too much for him. And that's really refreshing to see. Um, you know, like you mentioned, Donovan Mitchell had this kind of summer league standout performance. He just signed a max contract, yeah, with the Cavaliers.

SPEAKER_02 6:51

Again, congrats uh to Spider Man. Love it. You love to see it, man. Again, making those picks a little less valuable, but that's okay. That's okay. You know, we're not worried about picks anymore on this team.

SPEAKER_00 7:01

Yeah, yeah. No, we don't need picks anymore. We're past we're past that.

SPEAKER_02 7:04

Yeah, apparently we need a center now, though. But no, no, we just signed uh two-year deal. Um we got that center thing figured out. Yeah, Swalker Kessler now.

SPEAKER_00 7:15

Darren actually texted me as soon as he saw it, and he was just like, Hey, we're good. We're good to center. We got him, got our guy. Yeah, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02 7:24

I'm telling you, dude. Um, do you have anything more on that before I jump in? No, no. Okay. Um, yeah, man, I'm telling you, AJ, there is something to be said, like I said at the top of this episode, and this might be a subject we want to talk about as well. Um, before I get into this, if if someone's watching on Utah Jazz DNA, can you just drop a Utah Gize DNA in the chat real quick? We want to make sure that those chats are coming through uh because we don't want to miss anybody that's potentially wanting to interact with us. So if anybody's watching on Utah Jazz DNA, let us know. Just drop in uh hey watching from UtahJiaz DNA in the chat so we can see it. Uh don't worry, we won't you know put you up on screen and make you do a dance or anything. Um but anyway, so with that said here, there are so many parallels, and that might actually be worth a subject all on its own that we might want to talk about in a future episode. Um, but there are so many parallels to be drawn drawn between DP and Spider Man.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:17

So just like Mitchell on his rookie year, this man was going to be that that man was so much fun to watch, the rookie year, right? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:25

And and it he had, I don't feel like Spider had as much pressure on his shoulders. No. Because jazz fans were reeling at that point, right? We just lost Gordon Hayward.

SPEAKER_02 8:36

Right.

SPEAKER_00 8:37

It was the worst 4th of July ever. I still remember when I still remember where I was standing when I read the Gordon Hayward news.

SPEAKER_02 8:42

Yeah. Where was the standing? I knew he wasn't coming.

SPEAKER_00 8:46

I know, I know, and you told me too.

SPEAKER_02 8:48

Yeah, I'm like, dude, there's no way he's not signing back.

SPEAKER_00 8:50

But I I I was Turtle Jab is Jazz Optimus, right? Yes, I was so optimistic. I was like, why would he leave? He loves it here, et cetera, et cetera. But anyways, it doesn't matter. Apparently not. He apparently didn't live it here. Yeah, he didn't love it here.

SPEAKER_02 9:01

But anyway, so comparing the two, so here's another thing. Uh that there's here's another one. You want another one parallel between these two guys? Yeah. AJ, you ready for this one? Yeah. This is gonna be a big one.

unknown 9:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:11

I'm ready. This is a big one. Do you know what the jazz's record was in Donovan Mitchell's rookie year?

SPEAKER_00 9:21

I'm gonna guess. I'm gonna say it was 45 and it had 45 wins.

SPEAKER_02 9:29

Okay. It was 48 and 34. 48 and 34? Good for the fifth seed in the West. In his rookie year? In his rookie year. Wow. And what is what was our our uh my my preseason prediction? I gotta wear it too. You gotta but your preseason prediction.

SPEAKER_00 9:47

You do have to wear it too, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:49

So I think on an inferior roster, the Jazz got to 40. Now keep in mind the West wasn't as strong as it is now. But keep in mind there, I mean, 48 wins on that team, the rookie year. And here's the best part, AJ. Let's put the cherry on top on something that you may not have been ready for. Let's go ahead and throw this on there. Let's go ahead and add another piece to this pie, AJ. Yeah. What if we're looking at this team, you know, early spring or whatever the NBA finals or whatever the NBA playoffs wraps up next year in springtime, and the Utah Jazz did exactly underneath Donovan Mitchell what they do with DP and knock OKC out of the first round.

SPEAKER_00 10:25

Well, how would that be, dude?

SPEAKER_02 10:27

How would that be? Bookmark it right here, folks. You heard it here first. Absolutely. That's the goal. Not only do we want to pass 48 wins or at least get to 48 wins with this squad, we also want to repeat and knock out OKC Thunder in the first round. I'm all in for that. Probably not gonna happen. I think uh OKC the Thunder's probably gonna have a bye, but as long as we like get through the first round, I think that'd be really, really cool. I totally agree. Yeah, something similar would be really fun. Uh-huh. Um, yeah, absolutely, man. We want to hear from you folks. Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below. Obviously, he did not play in the third game here in Summer League. Honestly, dude, I don't know why we played him in the second game. Like, he just looked like a man among boys out there. This guy had no business being on the court. This guy was just super, super smooth. Maybe he wanted to play in the second game because he wanted to go up against the number three pick, you know, and just wanted to ball out.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

You know there's some of that in there, though.

SPEAKER_02 11:13

This guy is playing less than 28 minutes a game so far, and he's putting up 48 uh 35 minute starting minutes worth of production.

SPEAKER_01 11:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

You know, yeah. And these are D League, these are these are not D-League, but these are summer league guys, dude. These are these are better than college.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

A lot of G-League two-way roster guys that are you know, younger players trying to get minutes, trying to make an NBA roster. A lot of them are borderline NBA roster guys, though.

SPEAKER_02 11:37

Yeah, it's insane.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

It's great to see. I mean, and he's just out there doing his thing, man.

SPEAKER_02 11:42

You gotta love it. You gotta love it. I can't wait until we see him in the summer league there in the in Vegas to see what he does there. Hopefully, we only see him for like a game and then just shut him down like we do with D Will. Like, okay, dude, we see enough. Secondly, before we move on, what is uh Ace Bailey doing playing in the summer league? Uh I you don't think that dude didn't earn his stripes on slugging through and starting like half the season last year?

SPEAKER_00 12:04

The only thing that I can think of is Ace Bailey requested to for the playing time with DP.

SPEAKER_02 12:09

Yeah, maybe. Because I'll just like I'm sitting here watching it, I'm like, good grief, man. Good grief. What are we doing? Yeah. You know, it's one of those things, man. You know, so it's just really interesting. Uh, we got uh Jonathan Blazer, Jonathan Ba Blazer982 jumping in the chat. Appreciate it, man. Uh, you mentioned that you want to run, uh run for president there, dude. We're we're all in it for you. I'll I'll vote for you. You know, you're you're you're joining our channel, man. You're joining our live stream, so let us know for sure. Let us know where you're where you're you know when you're gonna be on the ballot. So love it. Um all right, so let's go ahead and pivot on over to our next subject, AJ. Um now with this one set, AJ, I've got a bit of a I've got a bit, I've got to give you some room to read on this one. And the comments are gonna love me on this one. I'm ready. Yeah. Okay. So uh anytime, Jonathan, anytime. Um, with all that said, AJ, um, here's what um we need to think about, right? How do we think the Utah Jazz are gonna position themselves to get there to that 48 win mark, right? Yeah. Because believe it or not, AJ, the last time the Jazz were in this position with Donovan Mitchell as the rookie that led us to the promised land in the postseason, we had which by the way is really weird to say when you've been uh Utah Jazz fan as long as I have, this team is essentially just loyal to a fault to everybody. Yeah, um, we literally had the same mascot for 25 years, same person in the bear suit for 25 years. Yeah, which is actually kind of a sad.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

What about in Arena Announcer?

SPEAKER_02 13:37

In Arena Announcer, check it out. We got a video on our main channel, DNA Sports Recap about that. We should probably post some of that stuff on this one. We probably should. Like change the title, say, you know, archive, maybe let us know, Utah Jazz DNA subscribers, let us know what you want to do with that. But anyway, so again, at this time, we had a completely different head coach, completely different GM. We had a completely different ownership group, AJ.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:01

Now, with that said, AJ, we currently are sitting, now this is where I'm probably gonna lose half of our revership here. We have an unproven ownership group, right? They have not put a winning product on the court yet. That's what I mean by unproven. Yeah. So let me just solidify that.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

At this point for the jazz, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 14:22

We have an unproven head coach. Yep. Has not put together a winning season since he put on the big headset, which they don't put on a headset in the jazz, but you know, the big lineup card in the back pocket.

SPEAKER_00 14:33

It still applies, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:34

Yeah, there's a shirt somewhere that we need to make out of that. And I would also argue that we have an unproven GM as well, AJ. Now, before I hear it in the chat and before I hear it in the comments from you folks there, yes, I know Danny Ainge has done it before somewhere else, but he hasn't proven anything in this market yet.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

Right.

SPEAKER_02 14:53

He remember he repeatedly said things that he hasn't been able to come through with, like the whole big game hunting thing. Remember that came up empty. Um, so we thought we had this team figured out, right?

SPEAKER_00 15:06

Yeah, I mean, we do every time.

SPEAKER_02 15:08

Yeah, we thought after the trade deadline last year, AJ, we thought we had this team figured out. Regardless of where they drafted, we knew um, you know, coming back, uh, they were gonna be, we were starting three, seven furters. Everyone had a shot that they had that need to be respected, including Walker Kessler. Because before going to that, he's been working on his range. Even a mid-range shot would have been respected for Kessler there. And we had a unique defensive player presence on defense, and we had length and elite, sorry, length and elite rim protection uh with Walker Kessler.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:45

Now that they did not resign Walker Kessler, what are we thinking the game plan is for the Jazz for an office?

SPEAKER_00 15:52

Yeah, I mean I mean, I think at a first glance you think the Jazz might end up moving Triple J to the five, right? I mean, I think that's immediately Larry Marking at the four, you throw Ace in the starting lineup, you got DP and key. Um, and that's a ton of storing. That's a ton of scoring, but you you really wonder like, how are we going to get good defensive minutes? Where are we gonna where are we gonna generate that defensive effort from, right? So with Kessler being such an anchor, um, he kind of cleaned up all those slip-ups, he gave you that safety net. Triple J's always been more of a help defender. Um, he's great at it. Um, but but really filtering guys into him is not how you traditionally think of Jaron Jackson Jr., right? He's just he's just not that guy that's Rudy Gobert. Um so then you wonder if it's a great fit because of the size of the NBA these days, right? Chad Holmgren, Wemby, Jokic, these are all seven-footers that it's really tough to defend at six foot ten. I mean, he does got a seven foot four wingspan, and that that definitely helps, but Wemby's seven foot four with an eight-foot wingspan. Yeah. Like that's that's a monster guarding a monster. So uh that's that's that's really tough. And you just wonder where the defensive minute is going to come from. Um, I mean, I guess my first thought is probably Nurkic, and you know, do you do you move Nurkic into that starting lineup? And is that gonna be tough enough to kind of anchor a defense? Are you gonna get productive minutes out of him? And does he have enough to kind of pick up where Walker left off? So that's kind of some of my thoughts. Like, that's that's my initial thing is like, okay, where are we going to go with this? And you know, not signing Kessler. I mean, the the first thing I think of when I when I heard they weren't signing Kessler is like, okay, the Jazz are are sure they want to sign Keontae, right? Because you can't sign both of those guys to hundred million dollar contracts.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

Yeah. Although we said differently on one of our apps. We did, but we did, but it was being optimistic.

SPEAKER_00 17:42

Let's it was being optimistic and and the second apron, you know, we're not managing the team's budget, and like I think I think they were uh it looked like they were ready to do that when they when they talked about how important Walker Kessler was to this team and how he was, you know, an anchor and a centerpiece. And and and again, I mean I I said it very clearly on a lot of these shows that I thought this team was built around Walker Kessler, his defensive presence was something that the Jazz needed. Um so it was it was really tough to see Walker Walker leave because that was the guy that we needed to anchor this team defensively. But now the questions we that that we have, right, uh collectively is what are we gonna do to replace that production? Because it is gonna be important. We are gonna need somebody to anchor that defense, and and who's the person that steps up and and gives good productive minutes to this team.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

Yeah, man, I think it's gonna be an interesting scenario. We already knew exactly what this team was gonna do, uh, given what they were gonna do before they didn't sign him. Now they chose not to sign him. It's obviously a shift. They're not going from a you know, hey, we're gonna have this dominant like front court, sorry, like dominant like defensive front court where we're gonna have size and length and everything. And then as far as like defensive liabilities, we have anything like that on the guard line, we're gonna handle that be with a team mentality. Obviously, DP is a great two-way player. Keontae does have reach and length that he can use, uh, and we can kind of cover a lot of that.

SPEAKER_00 19:05

And Keontae did play good defensive minutes last year.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

Yeah, he wasn't, he was definitely average to above average after the whole benching thing at the end of the year. So really proud of him on what he did there. Um, so but to me, what I'm thinking here is like, okay, obviously they're transitioning away from that. Uh, because I thought that they were building a team specifically to beat OKC and San Antonio.

SPEAKER_00 19:24

Yeah, and Kessler made it look that way.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

Yeah, and Kessler made it look like that was the direction that the team was gonna go. Now we're back to kind of you know the stat status quo for this jazz team. We don't really know what their direction is, and we're gonna have to play guesswork until they give us an indication on what they're doing. Yeah, I think you're right. I think it's gonna be more of a five by committee, which we'll probably get into here in a minute. Uh, but like I said there, dude, there's definitely a change in how this mindset of this team is gonna work versus okay, we're gonna be a defensive juggernaut with shooting at all five spaces, allowing our premier guards to crash the you know, and drive in, yeah, you know, and get into the get to the basket. Imagine Ace Bailey, dude, being able to just sit in there, just plow into the into the paint when we have five out. Yeah, you know, something we'll talk about a little bit later. But like, I don't know. I think there just leaves a question mark there on on do we know what the Utah Jazz are thinking when it comes to um when it comes to what they're doing front office-wise, like what's their game plan going forward?

SPEAKER_01 20:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:23

We want to hear from you folks. Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below when it comes to uh the Jazz, uh, with the fact that they did not sign um Walker Kessler and with the signings of Mo Bamba, um obviously the Nurkic contract extension, two years there, as well as the uh Jackson Hayes signing as well. Do you think we're kind of creating a different way of going about it? Do you think they're gonna be more of an offensive team first versus defensive? Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below for all that. Yeah. Uh with that said, man, we're probably gonna start seeing a lot, AJ, of Jaron Jackson Jr. at the five spot. Yeah. So it was heavily covered, AJ, that JJ has made it clear that he prefers to play the four, not the five. Yeah. Right. And we've heard a lot of talking heads throughout um, you know, our local market as well as nationally, that he's not great as a center. Um, so after trying to find the quote, you know, I spent several, you know, probably about 30 or 40 minutes trying to find the quote there where he actually said, I prefer playing a power forward versus playing center. Jump it in the chat, jump it, drop a link in the chat there uh or in the comments of wherever he said that, because I looked for a while, could not see anything. I even resorted to asking um AI for if they can find it. Uh Gemini and Chat GPT uh both said he said it in 2018. Uh, but when you look at every single article that he said that he said it, there's literally no reference to any quote that he said that he said that. Uh the closest thing I could come actually was a quote in 2025 in the Athletic AJ.

SPEAKER_00 21:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

Uh this is where he's about playing the five due to injuries uh for. Steet of Adams being out, he said, it's a lot, man. You've got to, you're going against really big guys, physical guys. You got a lot of work on you got a lot of work on rebounds and turnaround and cross-match and bring it up the court, bunch of stuff. Now he might have said that with like so like a heavy, heavy breath or something like that, but I think the key thing that we learned from this is that as always, AI is completely useless.

SPEAKER_04 22:28

Yes, that's correct.

SPEAKER_02 22:29

With that in mind, I'm thinking that, well, okay, I can't find the quote. Let me look at the numbers. Maybe the numbers spell it out and say, like, okay, obviously this guy cannot play a five. Uh and uh yeah, let's say that he's not good there, and that's where this is coming from.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:42

Right? Well, you'd be wrong there too, my friend. Um, all of his productive seasons, including his defensive player of the year, and both of his all-star seasons, AJ, were him playing the majority of the season at the center position. Blows my mind.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

So that's kind of what I was thinking, though. Like, because I feel like when you're watching the Grizzlies over these last few years, like there wasn't a big guy in there with him. It was Steven Adams, right? Like, but you were realizing how Butams was first guy in, first guy out. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he might start, but he's the first guy off the bench, and now you're rotating JJJ to five, which is, I think, a lot of what the Jazz are gonna do. Yeah, exactly. Like, to be honest with you, I mean, we saw Triple J in three games last year with the Jazz. And in those three games, he averaged 23 minutes, 22 points, four rebounds, and averaged a plus 14 while he was on the floor over that three game span. Also, in every single one of those games, he started and played along. Guess who? Yusuf Nurkic.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

There you go.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

Started and played alongside. So I think the Jazz do have a plan to keep him in that four to at least initially start and kind of see how this is going to work out for him. Um Nurkic was like a plus one average over those games, right? Realistically, that's a win. If you can get a guy on the floor that he is not hurting the team to be out there, that that's always going to help your team. So he, I mean, let's not forget about the triple doubles that Nurkic had. This this guy had some triple doubles last season.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

I really think we should forget about those.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

I don't think we should. Because the the triple doubles that we had that he had, it wasn't with NBA starting talent. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, he had like he makes great passes. He makes he sets guys up to score the basketball. He had some good games where he scored. His rebounding was better than average, right? Because on his career, he only averages six to seven rebounds a game. So he had above averaging. I think that he has the ability to come in and provide that relief of playing the five for triple J, not hurt the team, give good quality minutes. And then when you get Nurkic off the floor, you want to put Ace Bailey out there. Now you kind of move to let's out like let's see you outscore us, right? Because Nurkic isn't an offensive weapon. He scores better than Kessler does, right? For sure. He's more of an offensive weapon than Kessler. I mean, you you I guess if you're gonna pull true shooting percentages, yeah, Walker Kessler shoots like 75% from the field, but 90% of those are dunks and you know, touch shots. So Nurkic has more offensive skill than Kessler had. And when you pull Nurkic off the floor and then you put Ace out there with DP, key, and like some of these guys, dude, you're gonna be in really good shape to score the basketball. Um, ace, I think, is gonna give you some good minutes defensively because he's still big. That's not a small lineup when you pull Nurk off the floor and you put Ace out there. I mean, you're 6'9, 6'11, 7, you know what I mean? Like you are big even with Ace out there, and especially in that 3-4 spot. So I don't know. I mean, I I think that we've got a good option to move forward with Nurk um, you know, starting the five and then coming out if we need him to. I think I I really hope that we're gonna see Ace is the first person off the bench. He needs those minutes against an NBA team with an NBA roster to really move his game. I think that Ace is really, really talented and he's he's a player we have to get to this DP level, right? Right. We're all so pumped about you know Darren Peterson, and you know, you have a couple really great games, and it's been so fun to watch him. But don't forget how good Ace Bailey is. Like the this kid was a number five draft pick, and he was projected to go top two or three.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

Remember, he slid in this in the draft that we got him on, so which I think is the masterful about this whole thing, man. Like we want we tanked the first year to get a top two pick, and we got one because he wanted to get to Washington, right? Yeah, absolutely. And so, I mean, not necessarily him, but whoever was managing him wanted him to go to Washington. So they did everything they could to get him there, and then we had another guard, then we tanked again. Like, we we've never gotten the number one spot, we never got the number one pick. Well, conveniently we got the number one projected number one pick until all this issue with Kansas started for this guy. Yeah, and then he fell in the line in the draft, and the jazz were like, We'll take him. Like this we got our number one overall pick, you know. That's you know, showing it basically pretty well out there, you know. So I think between those two, we got our you know, top of the line picks, right?

SPEAKER_00 27:08

We've got our the fact was is the jazz were in such a perfect position for this draft pick, dude. Because if you get the number one pick, you've got a ton of pressure to take AJ Divanza from you know all of the the BYU alum, the Ryan Smith, his connections to BYU. You've got a ton of pressure. And even if you don't think you know, and I I think it was it was pretty consensus that that AJ Dibanza was the best player in the draft. But but you're but as far as a fit, you and I talked about it. Peterson was the best fit in this draft with this team.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

I honestly think Peter, I think the immeasurables and the ceiling for what AJ Devansa had put him ahead of Peterson for a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:46

I think the best NBA player ready to go right now was easily Darren Peterson.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

And that's exactly where we're at. We're at a point now where we've got the best NBA player ready that fits with this roster the best. This is where we needed to be. And the number two pick was the best place for us. Because if the if the Wizards do something crazy and they decide to take AJ Dibantsa, oh no, or sorry, Darren Peterson, oh no, we get AJ Dibanza. Right. All pressure is off of us, we win again. Right. Right? The projected number one pick since he was 12 years old playing middle school basketball. AJ Dibanza comes to Utah. Yeah. Oh no. This was this was exactly what we needed. Um, and I I'm just I'm super excited, man. I am so excited. I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

Instead of spending July 4th worrying, uh, you know, and being super depressed that Gordon Hayward's not here on this team anymore, that he went somewhere else. We get to spend this summer, this time, talking about how grave a player we have. And he showed it during the first two games that he played in the summer league so far.

SPEAKER_00 28:43

He just looked apart the whole time, dude.

SPEAKER_02 28:45

Yeah, it was so relieving. Looked like he didn't even belong being on that court, dude. Oh, he doesn't.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

I mean, and he's just getting NBA NBA speed reps, is all he's doing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:53

In 28 minutes and not not showing a second to slowdown, which I love. Yeah. Um now the jazz actually have a history of now, not this jazz team. Obviously, this was 15 years ago, but the jazz organization itself does have a history of playing a stretch big with uh Memo, right? Yeah, this guy would always be the trailer, you know. Darren Williams would you know set a screen and just toss the ball backwards, and then Memo would knock down the three. Yeah. I and then he would be part of the defensive rotation, was not the best defensive big in the league, not even close, but he got boards, he got offensive rebounds. He was effective, he was very effective, had always had a plus uh high, you know, a positive plus minus for the most part. Sometimes the three wasn't going in. But I really think that this is something the Jazz can do if they decide to do a five out spacing. We are much better offensively shooting with um Triple J at the five than we were with Kessler at the five.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

Much, much better, especially because that puts um Ace Bailey back on the floor. And Ace Bailey is a is a is such a stud offensively, and he has so many tools. He he causes so much pressure on the defense to guard like you're you can't just sag off of anybody with Ace Bailey on the floor. No, because he will torch you.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

Yeah, think about it. We have Walker Kessler, uh, that's with the Lakers now, and then so we have a much better trailing big that can shoot threes. We also have Laurie Markinen, who's the probably, if not the best, one of the best spot up uh you know shooters in the league.

SPEAKER_00 30:24

I think he's top five percentage-wise. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:26

Chilling in the corner, waiting for the ball to get kicked out to him. Meanwhile, you have uh you have DP, you have uh KG3, you have Ace Bailey, you have let's not forget about it. Just putting a ton of pressure on the rim, dude. Yeah, a ton of pressure. Isaiah Collier is one of the best about putting his body to the you know, you know, let running downhill. And doesn't let up either. Yeah, let's not yeah, Bryce Ensimbo, let's not forget about that guy. Like we had all these guards that can all these wings that can crash and kick out to a bunch of seven-footers that can shoot over anybody. Yeah, I mean, it's just a beautiful thing, man. I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, absolutely. We got a chat here from uh Nessa Joe saying, Go jazz, appreciate absolutely go jazz. Thank you, Nessa, for that chat there. Um, all right, man. Well, once again, folks, we are doing this live on Utah Jazz DNA uh for the first time. So if you're watching us live on that channel, really appreciate it. Hopefully, your guys' uh chats were coming through there. If we were having any issues, let us know uh in the comments down below there. But uh if you want to continue uh with us while we switch and pivot over and talk a little bit about uh major league baseball, um, a link to our main channel, DNA Sports Recap, will be listed in the description down below. Um anything else you want to talk about when it comes to the Utah Jazz? Nope. All right, let's go ahead and do it. Uh once again, folks, appreciate it. Again, we are live every Wednesday evening at 8:30. Uh, we're gonna go live on Utah Jazz DNA. Uh, we absolutely love the growth that this channel has. Uh, we've received over the last gosh, what, three, four weeks? Yep. You know, almost over a month now. Uh, we've gotten to the point where we can go live on this channel, so we want to make sure we did that so we can interact with you folks live here. And uh yeah, be sure to join us on DNA sports recap on the other side.

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SPEAKER_02 32:21

That's right. All right, man. So let's go ahead and get into it, dude. With a lot to talk about when it comes to Major League Baseball. Yep, there's a few things we want to get in. Uh, so we're gonna go ahead and jump right into it, man. Uh, let's talk some ball.

SPEAKER_00 32:46

Yeah, let's do it. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 32:55

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unknown 33:08

Do it.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

All right, man. Well, once again, thank you very much for joining us on Major League DNA. If you're joining us on our main channel, DNA Sports Recap, uh appreciate it if you're joining us from our um sister channel, Utah Jazz DNA, and you may switch over to Utah uh to DNA Sports Recap. Thank you for joining us on this side of things where we talk a little bit about some uh some baseball. So uh let's chat about it, man.

SPEAKER_00 33:30

Yeah, absolutely. So Major League Baseball and the ABS system has been overwhelmingly successful, right? It's really shown like how good a lot of umpires really are, and and when you kind of see that when they miss calls, it's usually by fractions of an inch. And it's been really cool to see when a ball is coming in at 90 plus miles an hour, how they get it right most of the time. I mean, but there's obviously some umpires, and it's played the exact opposite, and it's kind of shown how truly bad they really are. And Major League Baseball's noticing. So it was reported that C.B. Buckner and Las Diaz, who annually grade right at the top of the league's worst umpires, are on the list among seven officials that plan to accept a buyout and retire at the end of the season. How do you feel about this one, Darren?

SPEAKER_02 34:17

This is an interesting one, man. So this obviously came from Bob Nightingale uh from USA Today, right? Yeah. Um, and I think that, I mean, in the article, I think he, I don't know if he comes out directly and says it. I can't remember when I was writing my notes here, I didn't say I didn't quote it, but this is based off of their not only previous performance and issues they've been having on the field with players and managers and stuff like that, but also simply because of ABS accuracy, correct? Yeah, okay, yeah. Um, so the average percentage of accuracy in the MLB is 93.4%, right?

SPEAKER_01 34:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:52

That's the average. So, first off, is Marvin Hudson, dude, being forced to retire being only 0.3% below average. It's kind of harsh, don't you think? That's really harsh, actually. Let's just say that's the first thing I noticed. When I looked at that, I saw the list and I saw them versus the average. I'm like, hang on a second. That's kind of they're like, dude, you're you're setting you're setting the bar at a new level for us. You're new up going clean it up. Yeah. I mean, he has been doing it since 1998. Uh, so that means he's been doing it for 28 years. He's 62 years old, so maybe that has something to do with it.

SPEAKER_00 35:24

I'm sure that has something to do with it.

SPEAKER_02 35:25

But yeah, all these guys have debuted at two the year 2000 or earlier, AJ. Right. And what I've been saying on this one, a whole couple thing when it comes to ABS, is that there's so much more velocity in today's game and so much more movement in today today's game. Like you were in the mid to late 90s, and someone's like, Oh, you were a you know, you're a fireball pitcher, you were throwing a 93 miles an hour.

SPEAKER_01 35:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:49

You know, that's like the average speed of the average fastball has gone up quite a bit over the last 20-30 years. Asking some of these guys that are in their 60s to try and figure out where the ball is moving, if it's coming on or off the plate.

SPEAKER_00 35:59

I really wonder, do you think they have an eye test? Oh, I guarantee they do. Like they've got to have like a full-blown eye test, eye exam to be like, how how good is your vision at 65 years old?

SPEAKER_02 36:11

Yeah, I it's gotta be like, right? You you gotta have it in there. Um, but yeah, man, I just think, you know, 93% is the average. Like, and these guys were below it. So you're like 91, 92. So one of them was as bad as 89%. But yeah, dude, I just think I think it was, I think it's perfect, dude. Like all the all the ABS did here is push this stuff sooner, right? Yeah. I don't think that there was anybody on this list that wasn't actually already considering retirement and were just waiting to how many years it would take to be qualified for pension anyway. Uh so to me, I think this is a win-win uh for this situation here. Um, these guys probably, like I said, were looking to retire. And if you're going to judge on how you are now more than ever, this is kind of setting a new standard. And a lot of these umpires never got challenged before. Being being able to challenge something has only been something in the league for like the last five seasons, right? So yeah, challenging a call is already something they were already dealing with and not used to. Average, you know, having this ball strike, having somebody overturn a call that you made over and over again if you're not having a good night, it's can be kind of embarrassing for some of these folks. So I don't know, man. I get it. I just think all this did was push it, uh, push it a few years earlier. Uh, but I think it's a good thing. Honestly, um, you know, I think it would have been appropriate for these people to be fired, not given early retirement.

SPEAKER_00 37:32

Yeah, but after 28 years in the league.

SPEAKER_02 37:35

But I know you can't do that with the you know, there are some that just I'm pretty sure the umpires are unionized, aren't they? That's exactly it.

SPEAKER_00 37:41

Yeah, it's the they can't just go out there and just start axing people, right? They've got to give honestly, they should though.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

You know, like if you were, you know, performing well below average at your job, they wouldn't force you into retirement, they would just fire your yeah, but I'm also not unionized. Yeah, so me neither. Yeah, you know, that's how things are in Utah here.

SPEAKER_00 37:58

But I think you nailed it though. I mean, I think this is exactly what this system is designed for, right? Because it does a really good job holding umpires accountable, and it also empowers them to make the right call. And then if and if if a hitter doesn't like the call, guess what? They turn around and say, challenge it then. Yeah, exactly. You you think it was so bad. Give it a tap, man. Yeah, and I just I love the mind games that it adds. I love it's a whole different level, it's a whole different angle to the game. There, there's now, you know, a whole it just adds one more little, you know, and it's kind of funny, but curveball to the whole game.

SPEAKER_02 38:33

Right.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

You know, that it's gotta be done. Um, you know, players got a plan, they gotta know how many challenges they have. And uh, I don't know. I just the MLB got this right. Uh adding adding ABS strike zones was absolutely perfect because you see umpires not get they don't get too wide with their zones, they don't get too tall with their zones, they're calling much tighter games, and it is just excellent, dude. I I just I've absolutely loved it.

SPEAKER_02 39:00

Yeah, no, 100% agree on that one there. Uh Temi Fry's Tammy Price fan of the channel jumping in here, uh, saying uh that is interesting. I'm surprised they get a they get it so close. I know some of the times you would think that they wouldn't necessarily be there. Uh let's see, it's going back to how it was. Wait, it's going back to how it was. So if they can't or don't want to adjust, they should retire. That's a great way to look at it, you know, because either A, you deal with the constant scrutiny. Um, I'm telling you one thing, and Tammy Price, friend of the channel, you can back me up on this one. You want to get deep into the theory of when's the right time to challenge a call and when it's not the right time to challenge a call. Watch a Dodger broadcast when Eric Karros is on the call. This guy will break it all down for you. Yeah, it's like when there's a probability run probability situation, this guy knows he'll like, oh, this is not a good time to challenge. You know, obviously he's gonna have an overturn, but this is early in the game. Innings two, you know, here's a three-ball count and you're challenging a strike now. You know, he will break it all down for you, man. It's almost irritating.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

He gets deep into it.

SPEAKER_02 40:03

He gets deep into it, man. It was great. Really funny is the Dodgers are playing the Rockies right now, and we'll get into this game a little bit more. But Eric Karros is in the booth, in the booth, and his son plays third base for the Rockies. Oh, really? So it's really funny to watch his son come up, you know. Anyway, it's fun stuff. Fun stuff. Now we're gonna jump back to we gotta jump into this, McKinley, uh, because I know we're talking baseball right now, but McKinley, we want to make sure we always honor your comments in our live stream. Absolutely, buddy. Summer League was awesome to see DP live. Can't wait to the seasons to start. Uh and am excited to watch DP and AJ play tomorrow in Vegas.

SPEAKER_00 40:40

So excited for that game.

SPEAKER_02 40:41

Yes, it's gonna be awesome.

SPEAKER_00 40:42

Yep, that is uh always tune in for.

SPEAKER_02 40:44

Yeah, it's gonna be a one game and then pull them both out. We're done. Yeah, we're done. We all we need to see there. I I don't want to see uh DP playing in too much of the Vegas summer league. Yeah, you know, let's let's save some of those bullets a little bit. Yeah, um, yeah, we have a couple more comments here. We'll jump into them real quick on the jazz side there. I guess there's some front office, uh, like I guess when it comes to the front office, it's gonna wait until the center becomes available to pounce on. Um hoping that the Cavs need to shed some salary uh with Donovan on his new contract, maybe Jared Allen. And uh yeah, we've actually talked about that on the challenge. I think actually you brought up that on a previous video. Absolutely. Um, yeah, man, it's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be awesome. Um, yeah, man, when it comes to this whole challenge thing when it comes to baseball, I think it's absolutely awesome that they've done this. I want to see this progress. I don't want to see the umpires taken completely out of the game because there is part of that is part of the game, so I don't want that to be completely gone. No, they can't. You know, I don't want them just standing back there with an earpiece, just calling whatever the ABS says. No, you know, but maybe expanding the challenge rules a little bit, you know, might be better beneficial. Uh, but yeah, love to see it. Absolutely let's see.

SPEAKER_00 41:51

There's too much, there's too much right with an umpire calling a game. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, there's nothing better than somebody getting rung up on a third pitch called strike.

SPEAKER_02 42:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:01

And then there's also like the next best step is like rung up on a third pitch called strike, and someone's like, Yes. And you're like, we get to play that song and dance all over again.

SPEAKER_02 42:10

I love it, dude. It's so good.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

It's so much fun to watch.

SPEAKER_02 42:14

It adds what they took away when they took away National League uh pitchers not hitting because there's that strategy in there. They're like, okay, our pitcher's dealing, but it's the sixth inning. Should we pull them out for we got two runners in scoring position? Should we pull them out? You know, that element of the game is gone now, and I kind of miss it, to be honest with you. Uh, but having this adding into it, I think makes it much, much better. And I just love it so much. I do too. Um, yeah. Anyway, let's go ahead and talk a little bit about uh that Colorado Rockies and the Dodgers, shall we?

SPEAKER_00 42:41

Yeah, we we really should because you know what we all know that games get a little bit tense, you know, right? You're in the tenth inning of a game, you're tired, every hit seems to like it could be the decision maker. You know what I mean? Like when you start with the runner on second, which love the rule change by the way. Okay. Like the ghost runner. You don't like it, do you?

SPEAKER_02 43:00

I I don't have a problem with it as long as it's not in the World Series or postseason.

SPEAKER_00 43:05

Right. I I think it's I think it's great. And and I think that it adds that little bit of drama into extra innings that is necessary, and also it shortens game times, right? It's a whole lot easier when you got somebody on first because one or sorry, one somebody on second, because one single, one well-placed single can end the ball game. Oh, yeah. You know, walk off or whatever. So um got a little bit off topic there. But if keep going, but if you have a close, if you got a close play at the plate, close tag, and then an obvious re- tag, there's gonna be a problem, right? And that's what happened when the Dodgers played the Rockies. Dalton Rushing tagged Cole Carrick on a close play at home, and it led to some jawing back and forth. Uh, benches clear, the whole situation happens. So I want to know, Darren, do you think that this situation is purely sorry, so do you think this is purely situational? Like he didn't like this one. play or do you think it's more of the reputation that Dalton Rushing is getting with all the things that are happening? He's been in the media all over quite a bit.

SPEAKER_02 44:09

Way too much for a backup catcher.

SPEAKER_00 44:11

Do you think that so yeah do you think it's situational or do you think it's a reputational thing?

SPEAKER_02 44:16

I definitely think that it's because of reputation. Yeah. Uh keep in mind this is a baseball play right absolutely. You don't know if he touched the bag or not, right? You didn't hear the umpire call the call.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

I didn't even see him call it. Watching the replay he doesn't make a signal.

SPEAKER_02 44:32

Yeah so you got the fans screaming you got the collision at the plate your face basket's knocked you didn't hear it. So this is a baseball move. He's standing there you quickly tag him just in case we saw the exact same play and not at home but at second base early in this game where the guy ran past second and did not touch second base to go back. And so the umpire didn't make a call and so they just threw over to second guy was out because he did not touch second base. So you don't want to be the catcher who's you know not making sure and going the extra way. So yeah he made the baseball call to just in case that he missed tapping the plate because there was how is he supposed to know if he touched the plate or not? Yeah. He's covering he's making the tag so yeah and you know Cole Caring started this whole thing. Yeah. This was started by him not by Dalton Rushing. He was the first one to say something. Both if you watch the replay both Dalton Rushing and the umpire turn around and look at him. Right. So he obviously said something you know and waved towards Dalton Rushing right and and there's been a lot of comparison on this uh carrying kid uh comparing him to Yassi Alpweig I don't know if you know about Yassi Alpweig but uh Vinsky called him the wild horse very short tempered quick to you know get into it uh with some players and they're saying that this uh carry kid is similar to that but yeah um rushing got the last laugh on this one AJ right you know so in in my opinion yeah this was definitely by reputation because this was something that the Cole guy started by turning around and saying something enough to where just unnecessarily saying something unnecessarily saying something that both the umpire and Dalton Rushing noticed and so Dalton Rushing stood up turned around and Max Muncy was there to be like whoa whoa whoa back up dude back up like we still need you yeah so just stay over here right you know so I think that that was a big part of it I don't think this is all on Dalton Rushing.

SPEAKER_00 46:31

Maybe a uh cooler head wouldn't have even stood up after looking back he would just say whatever go sit down yeah and then just get back to it but yeah dude I don't think this is this is totally not on Dalton Rushing but yeah it's totally by reputation yeah I I totally agree I think that this is guys just know that he's back there at this point yeah and and they're just uh they're doing everything they can to kind of rattle his cage and like you said rushing does come in on the in the bottom half of that inning and get the game winning hit right no actually uh there's a few more a little bit more to that uh to the to this game AJ because oh because there's you're right you're right that did happen he does have the game winning hit okay but believe it or not AJ this was the game that this was the first game that the Dodgers had an extra innings game this season. Really?

SPEAKER_02 47:20

Yes 91 games the longest streak since the 2005 Red Sox it was the first one and yeah there's you know a bunch of other firsts in here uh when it comes to this but yeah it's also their 60th win they're the first team to 60 wins this season boo so there's a there's a little bit of that too and there's a whole bunch of other stuff that comes with it but yeah this was something that they went back and forth uh I mean the Dodgers practically gave away this game and the Rockies just gave they handed it to them on a nice little platter. Yeah like Tanner Scott came in and gave blew a three run lead yeah uh which is you know not great to see that's two shaky starts from Tanner Scott lately which is not great uh but you know they tied the game and they actually took the lead um going into the 11th inning and then the Dodgers score two runs one of them happened to be a Dalton rushing uh single broken back single at the middle to win the game so he did get the last laugh for sure yeah which is you know which is cool you absolutely love to see it absolutely love to see it you absolutely do yeah um so again um the next game AJ which is something we probably should talk a little bit about um uh for the Colorado Rockies versus Dodgers game you know what happened in that game no but shoyo Tani didn't see it okay just making sure not a little you know ruining your anything you have in your notes there uh yeah shoyotani hit his 300th career home run last uh last night so 300th career yes very cool that is very cool to uh you know showyo Tani you know yeah gotta you gotta mention him whenever you get a chance to gotta mention whenever you get a chance to for sure it works it works great for the algorithm too it really really does yeah it does yeah just put that in the algorithm it does um but yeah man I mean we've got a lot coming up I mean you know all star weeks coming up believe it or not I'm surprised you haven't mentioned this all star weekend's actually in Atlanta Georgia this year is it yeah it's actually at Bravest uh but um what's that stadium called Truist Truest Park yeah and the battery I know that part the battery there you go are you sure yeah yeah it's in Atlanta Georgia this year dude let's pack it up we're heading to Atlanta man be awesome man it'd be great yeah when is it next week yeah see that we we used to put a lot of content out in the all-star game yeah and nobody watched it so we're just not worth it we're not gonna bother with it guys this time so screw it keep watching our videos unless we go there uh which would be awesome uh we're just gonna go just because we could put up so much quality content from our phones exactly that's what it would be yeah it would have nothing to do about the fact that we get to go see an all-star game and go watch Show Ayotani that would also be pretty legendary yeah and five braves made the all-star game by the way yeah yeah yeah uh funny thing about that when it comes to people who made the all-star game um you know who made the all-star game for the first time um Paes Andy Paez I saw that yeah he made an all-star game or actually maybe you told me that maybe I didn't see it what really sucks about that is he didn't actually get a chance like he up until at the time recording I don't know if he today he got to but he he's from Cuba so he hasn't been able to contact his family to let his family know that he became an all-star is an MLB all-star that is heartbreaking so and then even worse is that the Dodgers actually uh Tammy friend of the channel if you could jump the kid's name in the chat uh for me uh if you're still on if you can drop it um so we talked about Chucky Robinson last week right yeah well they released Chucky Robinson and they brought up their other um star um catcher prospect that's coming up this kid uh is from Venezuela um so I don't know how much you're paying attention to world news lately but there was this massive earthquake that hit Venezuela um and so he could not contact his family let them know hey I'm coming up to the big leagues I'm making my MLB debut oh no right and the day the day of his start he found out that his stepdad and his little sister died in that that is brutal in that earthquake still made the start yeah talk about going out and giving it everything you have though yeah so you know you never know with with some of these players man it's easy just to sit there and be like oh where are these guys from and you never you never know what these guys are going through some of these players yeah some of them can't talk to their families because they're in you know a hostile nation to the US and others you know just because of tragedy and other things simply can't uh can't communicate with their family and and can have to deal with hardships so it's pretty crazy.

SPEAKER_00 51:44

Life short man yeah speaking of hardships man man it must be hard to be a Mets fan oh dude it is so brutal to be a Mets fan could you imagine being 39 and 54 at this point in the season being 15 games back your last 10 year four and six oh jeez that that's actually not even the bad part man because you're like okay you're having not a great season now tech in there that you've got 287.7 million in guaranteed contracts this year with six guys making over 20 million dollars a year and two of those making over 40 million a year wow at that point you're thinking yeah we're gonna be in a position we're gonna win some ball games but I guess it goes to show you that sometimes you can't just throw money at a problem and make it go away Darren no you don't you know what I mean so my question for you do you think it's time for the Mets to look at shedding some payroll moving some pieces does this team need a little bit longer to kind of to gel and work things out what are your thoughts on on the on the lol Mets my gosh man like I love the Mets they are my second favorite NL team and let me tell you why no offense wow but let me tell you why I'm very curious to hear this go break by some aspects of some metrics some people say that their payroll is technically higher than the Dodgers right yeah you've got to love that they're really close as far as payroll right if you count deferrals and everything they're actually more expensive than the Dodgers are when it comes to payroll so when you take that into effect and you've got a team like the Mets that are what second to last place in their division yeah right now I mean I think even the Florida Marlins are currently ahead of them I think they're only the Mets are last in their division.

SPEAKER_02 53:28

Okay sorry dead last in their division yeah and they have the second highest payroll in all of baseball yeah right and they have the largest contract in all of baseball and yet they can't even they're not even in a position to sniff the playoffs. So when it comes to that they're my second favorite team because they're a perfect example for anybody who argues like oh you be the team that's you know three times your salary well here's a team that is like three times your salary that is losing to everybody including teams in their own division that are making less than one of their players right like it's insane what the Mets are paying out uh they did this before though AJ they went all in they signed uh Justin Verlander Max Serzer they went in big on on paying the top pitchers there uh former Cyoung winners just to trade them both of the deadline when they didn't work out when they were both injured both went to competing Texas teams that both had to play each other in the playoffs which is dude just baseball is beautiful and poetic and then when it comes to that kind of stuff right baseball is poetic. But yeah man it is absolutely insane how bad this team is and you know you know Uncle Steve Steve Cohen the owner of the meds needs to make some tough decisions and I don't think this is something as simple as just like okay well Bo Bachet mentioned that he's gonna opt out at the end of his contract so you might as well trade him now and get some assets back for him. What team is going to trade for that knowing they could potentially opt into that contract well that's exactly it like why would you do that? You're paying that dude 45 million a year for like below 250 year you know batting average and the only three games he's had that were even worth anything were against the Braves. Right so you know there's I think this is a lot more drastic moves than simply doing just that right yeah I mean there's rumors about Francisco Lindor potentially being traded I also seen uh some other stuff there but yeah we're looking like probably potentially being traded to the Yankees and obviously there's some other things like Luke Wiegaver, Alvarez and some other rumors that have been flowing around around this team you either A got to go in and buy the deadline and trade away some of these other contracts to bring in some like you either got to go all in and get scuball and try and turn this thing around right away and make a push to become a wild card team yeah or you have to blow the whole thing up just blow it up strip it all the way down to the studs all the way down to like the only guaranteed contract you have coming up in two years is literally um Soto right exactly one soto or how about this AJ here's a thought that I had what if what if Uncle Steve trades Soto I know he's got a no trade clause in his contract right yeah but he was perfectly happy playing second fiddle to judge right this is a guy he's not wasn't he pretty public about wanting to like have his own team no I don't think it was about having his own team I think it was about some of the things we talked about on this channel like uh the Yankees didn't give him a suite the Mets did you know they weren't willing to give him that extra year on his contract the Mets did he's like well I'm basically in New York anyway I'm not particularly tied to either one of these teams I'll just go with the best offer I'm getting right now which is with the Mets right he does not like the fact that he's like the single like this guy doesn't even hang on the dugout reportedly with his team in between innings. Like he is going like into the batting cages sitting on the couch with the assistant general manager sitting next to him.

SPEAKER_00 56:49

That's so weird to me.

SPEAKER_02 56:51

Yeah this guy is not like doing team dinners he's doing his thing is going home right yeah you know he was perfectly happy not being the face of the franchise when he was with the Mets I mean sorry with the Yankees I would not be surprised if Cohen might give uh might give the Yankees a call if you just dangle a little carrot like hey man we'll be willing to uh pay 30% of his contract if you uh you know what can you give us for soto yeah I'm just saying it's a theory I know it's a way out there probably not gonna happen but yeah I definitely think in my opinion it's time for the LOL bets to blow it up because again just like the Padres they're these teams that can constantly try to win the comp press conference and completely ignore things like chemistry.

SPEAKER_00 57:31

I mean they won the press conference you gotta give them that yeah you said last week yeah chemistry is the most important thing yeah when it comes to baseball and I I just totally believe that dude yeah like you you've got to have guys that go out there and play for each other.

SPEAKER_02 57:44

Yeah I mean you had what's his name uh Francisco Lindor run out the that McNeil kid and like okay well let's bring in the best second baseman in baseball uh in Marcus Simeon from the Texas Rangers and then you know all of a sudden okay well he's not getting along with Lindor either um okay so what's the problem there when Lindor wants it to be his team not Ju Soto's team and then you also trade away your homegrown um you know what we call the gosh what's the heart and soul of the team yeah you traded him away in Nimo um to please you know whatever right and so you're making all these bad moves to bring in these name guys and they're having some of the worst years of their career yeah why with the Mets Bo Bachette obviously you know you should have let that guy go with the Phillies dude that was a bad move right like yeah you know 40 million you prefer to have that but also you know who the National League second baseman is for all stars my guy Ozzie Albies of course why wouldn't he be boom because he's a stud. He's the best second baseman in baseball in my opinion you just said Marcus Simeon was the best second baseman in baseball and I was a fan in the American League I'm still a fan sorry at the time in the American league he was the best second baseman in second baseman in baseball okay sorry Alt as as long as you stand corrected. Yeah I stand corrected Ozzie Albies Ozzie Albys is the best second baseman in the National League um and basically all baseball right now he's still the best second baseman in the national league yeah ooh that's a good comment coming uh from Greg Hawkins channel legend Greg Hawkins Nico Horner is the best second baseman in baseball gee I wonder what team he plays for um no coincidence there Greg none at all we love you love to see it you love to see it um but yeah man I just I absolutely love it dude I think what's what the Mets are doing right now is exactly where you want them to be with what they're doing um because again I honestly think they they either got to go both ways nobody want nobody wants to see the Mets win. No I mean they don't really have a whole lot of draft capital left yeah right so they need to do whatever they can like the Lakers maybe trade away Acunya Jr's brother to you know to get rid of some of this stuff because that's like their best prospect they have right now. Maybe trade him away uh to do something and and get some kind of like scuba trade going on. But yeah honestly dude this team's a mess. I don't think they can buy I think they need to blow it up.

SPEAKER_00 59:57

So funny story you mentioned Tarek Scuball because I have my random that we always plan for Tarek Scuball. Okay ESPN put out an update on July 6th that he had an 85% chance of being moved but scuba just recently stated that they are a good baseball team and that he wants the club to add at the deadline rather than subtract should the tigers move Terek Scuball and will the Tigers move Terek Scuball yes and no yes they should move him absolutely they should move Terek Scuball he's about to walk you're not going to re-sign him I mean maybe you would because you signed Rabuveldez to basically the same salary you were supposed to pay Scuball but you decided not to and he won anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:43

You're just like yeah why would who would want to sign a young pitcher that's the best in the league yeah yeah so okay whatever right versus a guy who's constantly a problem throwing his own catcher you know you could literally pay scooball both of those salaries and and you're gonna be right on there right why don't you just that was the move that pissed off Scuball yeah I would be too man why don't you just sign why don't you just extend him right then like yeah like if you're gonna pay if you had the money pay the man yeah absolutely ridiculous you're like nah framberveldez is better framed is our guy and we're gonna go we're gonna go to blows with frickin' franchise cornerstone we're gonna sign this guy and we're gonna go to blows and arbitration so make sure we don't pay you 30 million yeah with your back to back Cy Young you know awards you can't even you can't even pitch because you're holding all your Cy Young awards yeah that's what where those loose bodies came from right yeah like dude I just I don't know man it is absolutely insane when it comes to that kind of thing yes absolutely they should trade them but they're not going to because they're making a little bit of a push they're only like what how many games out of the wild card you have the standings up I actually do have them up yeah yeah how many wild card how many games are they out in the wild card standings right now um tigers well they're five and a half game five and a half back from the division lead behind the White Sox. I mean the wild card I don't I don't have that one up okay um that that bar's uh looking up because yeah there's definitely gonna be something there um but yeah so I think they've gone on a recent tear right now yeah the last 10 they're seven and three yeah so I'm thinking when it comes to the standings I'm thinking that that might be worth it um so if I go into M will be the standings and I jump over the wild card for the American League what we're looking at there is currently the Detroit Tigers are uh four games back of the wild card. Wow so I mean they're getting close right yeah and the teams that are in the wild card are the Yankees the Guardians and the Rangers I mean you can skip past I mean blue jays might get up there might not you know the Astros I think they're gonna take their division so then you're going against the blues ages the blue jays are just always scary man like after that run they made last year yeah like they just tore through the playoffs like if they can get into that wild card spot you've got to think they could do something yeah honestly I think the I as it sits right now I think the Rays currently are sitting in the best position to win the division yeah which by the way kudos to the Rays man after playing in a minor league ballpark getting the getting the trot back this year are just freaking going man they are five games up on their division over the Yankees the oh the Rays are the Rays are yeah which is absolutely awesome to see very impressive yeah so very impressive very very cool unfortunately athletics have fallen like greatly um so that's not been good that that was your that was your your one pick for yes I forgot what mine was bold bold prediction pole season and yours isn't going out so well either yeah stupid fillies yeah they're in the wild card as well and yeah they're actually close to the division check out the last week's episode on that one um we'll link that somewhere uh but yeah man I don't know I think yeah they should but they won't because I think that they're so close terek scuba wants to stick it out like he doesn't want to trade another he doesn't want to go to another team right now no definitely not I mean you think you want to make a midseason move and go try to find an apartment and yeah he's not gonna want to do that no absolutely doesn't want to do that so yeah I just I don't know and you can't blame him yeah why would he want to yeah like he's the c the thing is is he holds all the cards yes he does so like they're you know I mean he's like I have a contract like you have somebody's gonna pay me you're you can have my services for the rest of the year if you'd like yeah well honestly I think that they should trade him but I don't think they will just simply because of how close they are to contention yeah um I think they're gonna wait until after the trade deadline be like okay and then maybe he just shuts down and also maybe he just simply just doesn't want to pitch in the postseason risk getting hurt before becoming the highest paid pitcher in baseball history. Yeah um but yeah there's a few stories I want to talk about real quick uh in baseball that's kind of ancillary right okay uh the first one is gonna be talking about uh the Cubs Greg your Cubs man did you hear about this game that they had uh last week I think it was this week might have been earlier this week it got so foggy dude I saw the I saw the clips of this this the guys in the infield are like I can't see the ball it got so foggy that Joe Davis announced that they couldn't use the center field cameras because they could not see home plate yeah they tried to use ab and the abs couldn't even pick it up because it couldn't see the ball strikes yeah so the call stands yeah because abs couldn't make the read yeah that was absolutely insane man dude that was so crazy too like did you see the did you see the camera view from behind the plate yeah you couldn't even see the infielders yeah how many times did you look out uh look out on the field and saw the uh the both the diamondbacks and the cubs players being like we can't see shit like it's insane yeah I would just try to hit it in the air yeah well yeah because then you just hit it in the air no one's gonna see it you just pop everything up dude I'm like yeah I'm good hit it to the outfield just keep running because they're not gonna see the throw come in either and I'm surprised

SPEAKER_00 1:06:00

What is the rule on fog? Is there not one? I mean, the it's up to the umpire's discretion, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:06

So yeah. So we'll see.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:08

I mean, like nobody can see, screw it. This is gonna be a fun game. Keep watching. Wait, but the problem is the fans can't see it either.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:14

Yeah, way too much fog during the game before it started. They they delayed the game. I think uh, Greg, correct me if I'm wrong, about 20 minutes before the game started. Then the fog lit up, and then it slowly got worse over the game. And then at 16, they had to like delay the game again or call it all together. I can't remember how it broke down, but it was absolutely insane. The craziest fog I've ever seen. Uh, yeah, the fog game was wild. Um, but yeah, again, Cubs are doing great, man. Love to see them uh competing. Get back out there, Pika Armstrong. Ever since he told that lady what she can do for him, uh, he's been on tear. I mean, no, he was on cursed after that. And then ever since they the tarps off section taunted him and he hit a bomb right towards them. Yeah, he's just been going since then. He's just been like MVP caliber type player, man. Absolutely. Um, so I have one I want to talk about. I'm ready. So let's talk about the Kansas City Royals, AJ. Okay. So, and let me tell you about a player from the Kansas City Royals that you've probably never heard of. I'm ready. Tyler Tolbert. Nope, never heard of him. Just tied an MLB record with 12 consecutive hits on 12 consecutive plate appearances.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:35

12 hits on 12 consecutive appearances.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:38

Yes. Now that sound that might not sound like something crazy, but in Major League Baseball, that is insane. Got a hit in 12 straight at bats.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:47

Ties a hundred and twenty-year MLB record with a shocking feat.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:52

Yes, absolutely. Wow. Yeah, so yeah. So it's it's pretty impressive, man. I mean, what do you think? I mean, uh, what do you think about that? What do I that's ridiculous?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:04

The best hitter, the best people in the world at hitting baseballs hit it less than a third of the time, right? This dude did it 12 straight times.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:13

Yeah, and a guy you've never met, never heard of in your life. Yeah, never heard of your life.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:17

No, that is pretty impressive.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:19

I can actually extend that for you. I bet you, I can guarantee you, probably bet your paycheck and my paycheck that you haven't heard of any of these other five guys that have done this either. The other five guys, again, like uh sorry, uh yeah, the other five guys. No, there's other four, right? Because there's only five that have done this. Correct me if we're running the comments there. Um, but Tyler Tobart did it uh just now with the Kansas City Royals, Jose Miranda with the Minnesota Twins in 2024, Walt DuPo uh Dropo of the Detroit Tigers in 1952, uh Pinky Higgins of the Boston Red Sox in 1938, and Johnny King of the Chicago Cubs in 1902.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:03

Pretty impressive.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:04

Yeah. None of those players ever heard of in my life. Nope, not even once. Yeah. So just let you know how random the baseball is. Like you would think it would be like, oh, you know, it's gotta be Ted Williams, right? The guy who bat 400, right? He would have had to have been that guy, you know. Some of these other people who are known for their batting averages, Ken Griffey Jr., you know, some of these like named players. No, it's a bunch of dudes you've never heard of, uh, that probably, you know, may or may not have ever made a world may or may not have ever made a uh all-star start. Absolutely nuts, dude. That's insane. It's a crazy stat. Crazy stuff. Yeah. We got another comment hit from channel legend Greg Hawkins saying a PCA hit two home runs today. He's been unbelievable. Absolutely, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:48

He really has, too. You gotta be so happy about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:51

Yeah. One of the crazy things in those in that Mets game, uh, the Mets uh versus the Royals game, where uh this guy got a 12 consecutive played appearances, there was a a little league home run. Um, do you know what a little league home run is?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:05

Yeah, like you hit it in the park and make it all the way around.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:07

Yes, no, a little league home run. That's the inside the park home run. That was a little league home run. No, a little league home run is when there's a bunch of errors that allows you to score.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:15

Oh, that's even better.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:16

Yeah. Uh so the Royals basically had a player uh that hit a ball on the infield, and there was three errors in this uh in this play that allowed them to score. That makes us so much better. Which is crazy because I mean the Dodgers did also last night give up two errors on a single play that it caused them to lose the game after blowing again another lead. So it just goes to show you, man, one of the highest pay payrolls in baseball can lose to one of the lowest ones out there.

unknown 1:10:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:49

Crazy thing about the Colorado Rockies, last thing before we get out of here. Um, would you believe me, AJ, if I told you that the Colorado Rockies have a top ten offense in major league baseball? I would not. Yeah, they're number nine right now in run score per game. Wow. Yeah, number nine.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:07

That's pretty impressive, actually.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:08

Obviously, who's number one? Take a guess. Probably the Dodgers. Nope, number two. And I guarantee you'll never guess who's number one right now. The Rays. No, no, they're a first place team. Not a first place team. One more guess.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:21

Not a first place team? Not a first place team. That's a good help.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:29

The Cardinals. No, close. Actually, not close. Maybe the same division. Probably not. They both wear red. I don't know. Is the Washington Nationals? Oh, I actually believe that. I actually believe the highest run scores per game for number one.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:44

The Nationals just are like sneaky good, dude. Just come out and just put the bat on the ball. Like that it's like they don't even hit it out a lot. No.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:51

They just come out and just base hit the shit out of you. Can you have you ever seen a player that looked more bothered to be there than that woods kid? No. This guy just like he's got the the Gen Z stare. He doesn't look like he's having fun at all. No, but this guy will just sit there and hit a bomb and just run around the bases march along.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:10

Still face, dude, like not ex he's not even excited for himself.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:13

Make a diving play, gets up, whatever. I can't wait for it to be over. It's insane, dude. Crazy. Crazy. JJ uh CJ Abrams. Is it CJ Abrams? Adams?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:24

CJ Abrams, awesome place for the Nationals, yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:27

Yeah, I think that might be the guy. That might be the guy. I always wanted that guy on my team.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:32

Oh, I was thinking there's another guy. I think you said you said Woods. And I was thinking him. I'm thinking I thought you were talking about Kyle Tucker. Solid point.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:44

Solid, solid point. Who's actually been coming alive lately, by the way? Congratulations, Kyle Tucker. You're welcome because it was if it wasn't for us uh dogging on you, you haven't been you wouldn't have been doing what you're doing. Uh by the way, thanks to everybody who watched that video. I think we have like what 1500 views on that video.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:00

Yeah, it was pretty pretty good. Yeah for a channel with 140 subs.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:04

Absolutely love it. Everybody, thank you for tuning in and joining uh and watching our videos on that for sure. For sure. Um, yeah, it's Kyle Tucker. It's great stuff, man. Absolutely great stuff. Oh gosh. But we were talking about the nationals and oh crazy thing I saw when I was watching the Yankees get beat by the Rays yesterday. I looked up and saw a picture on the mound. And you know what his name was? What? Camboozer. Are you serious? Yeah. There's a relief picture hurting. I bet you it wasn't the Camboozer. No, but there's a picture on the Rays named Camboozer. And I'm just like, dude, wow. So sick. So cool. So cool. Uh on that twist of connecting both of our channels together, Utah GI's DNA and Major League DNA. Uh, we want to say thank you all very much for watching this episode of the DNA sports recap. If you join us on our live stream, keep in mind, uh, this is available, you know, on our sub channels. Um, gosh, we need a new outro for this. We do. Why don't you just run your part?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:00

Yeah, if you're watching on one of the str on one of the short videos on either one of our sub channels, just know they are available as a podcast wherever you get your audio. With all that said, my name is Darren.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:09

That is AJ, and this has been an episode of the DNA sports recap. Till next time.