hey guys, welcome to the channel.
Speaker 2:We've got claire here tonight hello, hello everybody, happy valentine's day.
Speaker 1:Thanks for joining us we've got, uh, we've got all kinds of fun lined up for tonight. Let's make sure we got everything good. Here we're in the chats. We got a lot of people in here already. We've already got about 260 plus comments and, yeah, here we go.
Speaker 1:So what we're going to do tonight is we are going to first show the bobble pick winners, so all the people that have a Mike Rinder bobblehead and they took pictures. We also have some people that went to Scientology organizations with their bobblehead and took some pictures. So we're going to show those and then we're going to do Q&A. So if you've got any questions you want to get answered, go ahead and fire those into the chat and then, once we get all the questions answered, then we will show. At the end, we will show the best David Miscavige shoops of the week at the very end of the video. We've got a ton of good ones and we'll also announce the ones uh, the one that won, uh, from last week. So, uh, so yeah, that's what we got. Is there anything exciting that we need to talk about before we start?
Speaker 2:well, unless we want to talk about miscavige for a moment oh yeah.
Speaker 1:So, uh, aaron did a video over at growing Up in Scientology on his channel. He did a video today. David Miscavige got officially served in the lawsuit that's been going on in Florida and that he's been evading service for for months and months and months, months, and they had a hearing a few weeks ago and the judge or whoever, wrote down and said he's been served. So that's a done deal. If you want to know all about that, aaron did a whole video that explains the whole thing. But that's great news because that means we're one step closer to, uh, possibly getting some justice for some of the people who've been abused and you know bad things have happened to them at the, in the care or the at the hands of Scientology.
Speaker 2:Yep and of all the things, there's nothing. Miscavige hates worse than being.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Served.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he doesn't like the shoops and the the silliness, but he really hates getting dragged into lawsuits.
Speaker 2:Yep, he's got some answering to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then Claire is uh, so Claire started doing her interviews and she's going to do a video that is going to come out tomorrow. Uh, that she meant to do uh a while ago and she just had nowhere to put it, so she did that video and then next Wednesday you'll start saying hopefully we'll start seeing interviews from her and if we can get them done fast enough and get them edited and all that likely, she could have one at least once a week for for a while at least.
Speaker 2:Yes, I have at least six months lined up.
Speaker 1:You do Really Well that might be a slight overstatement yeah, that's exactly. I have a few months, at least a few months, uh yes okay, great, okay. So I think we're good. Uh, yeah, let's go ahead and do the. Uh, let's start the mic bobblehead. One first here. Let's add it here. Let's see, I'm going to do a pick, this one Poof.
Speaker 2:There we go.
Speaker 1:So if anybody doesn't know what we're doing here, these are back in the corner of this picture. In the very back corner. There there's a little bobblehead. That's a Mike Rinder bobblehead, and we sell these in the SP store to raise funds for the Aftermath Foundation, which helps people escape from Scientology or start their lives over after they've escaped. And we have a contest where people are taking pictures of them and we vote and see which one's the best one, and then we send that person an SP bracelet, and this is the winner from last week. This is the Funko Pop mic bobblehead, and this one was the winner, but the close second was the pilot bobblehead. So whoever sent in that pilot bobblehead, you were the runner up, but this is the winner for last week of the best bobblehead. And so there you go. So let's do this week's. Here we go, and oh so this is one where I guess this is the stab shot.
Speaker 2:You just need to know that this is the Toronto org.
Speaker 1:Great, so you have to.
Speaker 2:Well, you need to just know that the context of it to understand the Toronto org Great. So so you have to. Well, you, you need to just know that the context of it to to understand the next picture.
Speaker 1:So look at the next picture is not of the Toronto org, so there you go. Good job, Okay. Okay, so this is um. This is Mike driving down, I guess, uh.
Speaker 2:Route 66.
Speaker 1:Route 66.
Speaker 2:With a hula skirt.
Speaker 1:And they managed to get Mike in the shot, even though it's supposed to be a picture of a bobblehead. They did manage to barely have him in the picture, so that was good. That was a good accident. I guess this is DM the elf with Mike the bobblehead. So this is Mike and the Bobblehead, and this is a great one.
Speaker 1:This a viewer bought a bobblehead and then knitted. This is a hand knitted zinu at lord zinu outfit. This matches the picture from south park of lord zinu, and this is, uh, a little outfit that somebody made for a bobble render, and I don't even know how they got that on there. But, uh, this is amazing. That's's a crochet. Yes, that's a crochet, and yeah, that seems like a lot of work to me. That's what that seems like.
Speaker 1:The next one is this Toronto, or that's a totally different one. Okay, this is a totally different one, so this is a lot of Easter eggs in this one, though, so it's at an organization. L Ron Hubbard is right behind the Rinderbabel in the glass, and then, a little bit over, you can see Dave is hiding behind a little door, david Miscavige is popping around a door, and then Tom Cruise is dropping in from a street pole. And then John Travolta is up in the second store window window just just chilling, chilling like a villain, and then the bobbleheads in the foreground there.
Speaker 1:This is church of Scientology of Birmingham. Oh, and, by the way, this person you get a bobblehead, you get an SP bracelet. If you take a picture of a bobblehead in front of the org, you get a bracelet. And add in all this extra Easter eggs, that's good too. Same with this one this person gets an SP bracelet. They took a picture here at the sign Church of Scientology of Birmingham and then that is in a stab shot. That goes with it. And this is a bobble render with a cat. So there's him and there's a cat in the background. And then this is the one. Yeah, we don't need the a stab shots, babe all right, fair enough that's.
Speaker 1:That's kind of a giant waste of our time. So this one is the Toronto Org which we were talking about last week. I think we talk about it every week. For some reason, People are always asking about this Toronto Org.
Speaker 2:Sorry, this is Vancouver.
Speaker 1:Okay, Vancouver we were talking about Vancouver last week. Oh my God, if you want to write, notes, claire, it's been a really long week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure I'll write some notes or put it on the bottom or something.
Speaker 1:She's feeding me all this bogus info here, toronto or Vancouver.
Speaker 2:Happy Valentine's to me.
Speaker 1:Vancouver. Yeah, happy Valentine's Day to me, mark snippy tonight, no, just the usual. You should have seen before we started the video. Oh, yeah, also, I'm going to. I might have to do just like a cutoff, but when you send the pictures, it's better if they're landscape and I mention it pretty much every single time. But this is landscape. This picture here it's portrait Looks much better landscape. You see all that black on the side of the screens. That's what we get when you send a portrait. When you send them landscape, they fill the screen much better, much better. So I've been showing the portrait ones just because some of them are good and I like them, but they would be much better if they were landscape. Is that the last one, or is there more?
Speaker 2:This is just to show that somebody pasted the Aftermath Foundation cards right outside the Vancouver org, which is pretty amazing, in my opinion.
Speaker 1:Amazing in my opinion. Awesome, that's a bonus. That's a good bonus. Okay, so Vancouver guy or person, whoever sent that in you get an SP bracelet. Claire will hook you up. She might just email you because she knows who sent it. Next picture oh, it's another picture of the street pole. Just in case we didn't know what a street pole looked like, now we know what it looks like from far away. All righty, yep, yep, yep. Know what a street pole looked like. Now we know what it looks like from far away. Alrighty, that was good, okay, good.
Speaker 1:I like all the comments about how I'm in a mood tonight. I got a lot of stuff. I got to cut Claire's video after this. I'm looking forward to that too. So, yeah, vote on your favorite one of those bobble picks and then, once we get another good stack of bobble picks we usually do the bobble picks, I think, once every two weeks. It really depends on how many pictures you guys send in and if they're landscape or not, because I throw out the portrait ones. Those are the portrait ones that made it in. I throw out the other ones just because I'm, uh, very, I'm very anti-portrait. Uh, landscape is sort of my thing. Keep it wide side to side. Otherwise, uh, yeah, we don't need it. We don't. Uh, I don't need that in my life. Um, okay, let's see what we got here. We've got yeah, we've got about 700 comments so far. Have you been starring any of the questions?
Speaker 2:Yes, I have. And just while you're looking at those, don't forget to comment on this video to say which bobble pick wins. I see a bunch of people commenting in the comments about Zinu Mike and that beautiful outfit, but I just want to remind everybody, the comments of this video is what we do, the tally based on.
Speaker 1:So there you go, there you go, folks. Okay, do we have any super chats? Here we go, denver, stevo.
Speaker 2:Hi Denver Stevo.
Speaker 1:I don't see how to star that.
Speaker 2:So you got to star it.
Speaker 1:Oh, star it, oh I thought and the brett grace oh, you did. Okay, good, perfect. I'm just gonna start going through um on on hata. On, hata. Sat, says claire, tell mark, he got off easy with a letter and your rings a a ron, okay. So first of all, let's explain that. Uh, claire, uh, when we were still in the Sea Org and she kept getting pressured to divorce me by David Miscavige, over the years Kept for five years, just to be specific.
Speaker 1:She was pressured to divorce me and she sent me her wedding rings and a letter very nasty letter, if I must say and she sent it to me saying that I needed to get my act together or we were going to get divorced.
Speaker 2:I never said that word. I didn't use that word intentionally. So I was like hey, what would you? Prefer Rings or divorce papers. Those are my options before they'll let me go home at all that night. I was there until four o'clock in the morning with them beating on me.
Speaker 1:Okay, emotionally. So that's the backstory, claire, tell Mark you got off easy with a letter and your rings. Aa Ron interviewed an ex-Seorg member who'd been trapped in the RPF that's the Rehabilitation Project Force. That's a Scientology labor camp Until she convinced her husband to have a vasectomy. Wow Okay, that's hardcore. Well, thank you, I guess I got off easy, dave. Dave Weillhauer says bought your book. Bought your ebook last night. Love it On page 100.
Speaker 2:Thank you, dave, appreciate that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you guys haven't gotten a copy of my book, we we all the stories we're telling on here. There's much more and much more detail in my book Blunt for Good Behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology. And if you go to my website, bluntforgoodcom, the copies that we sell there paperback and hardback are both signed by Claire and I. Otherwise, you can go to Kindle or Amazon or wherever books are sold. You get copies there. Gary Jackson Moorhead said hey, you twos, hey, jackson Jackson. Jackson may or may not be one of the interviews that Claire has coming up.
Speaker 2:He may definitely be this week. I'm not a teaser, like you are.
Speaker 1:Calico 26 says does Dave still talk to his sisters? That's a good question. We don't know. We don't talk to his sisters, so it's hard for us to know if he talks to them well, I worked with him.
Speaker 2:For what? So I was in RTC from 1996 until 2004, so eight years. I was, you know, he two people, two rungs down from him. I never even knew he had sisters. So yeah, not much.
Speaker 1:Well, also, who knows, he could spend one minute talking to his sister and we wouldn't know, so whatever. Okay, denver, stevo, again, have you both had a chance to see the full 90-second Scientology superb owl ad. Thoughts on the winks and nods to the confidential levels. Thoughts on the winks and nods. I haven't seen it. I don't watch anything they put out. Did you watch it?
Speaker 2:I watched 10 seconds of it and then they lost my interest because it was just so the same old, same old, like mysterious. But they would not give any nods to confidential levels.
Speaker 1:No, no, that would never.
Speaker 2:So that's probably just because you're ever knowing Denver Stevo.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're picking up on that. Scientologists don't know anything about the upper levels, unless they've gotten to them. They don't even know.
Speaker 2:Did you see? Did you see? A post-day? Alex was saying I saw a comment from him or from somewhere that when he was in London Org they just told them to say, oh no, that's from Revolt from the Stars. There's no such thing as Xenu. That's how they explained it to the staff members who had not reached the upper levels. So that's kind of what they gave fed them as the answer to the question about Xenu.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wow, that's funny. Brett Grace says things I know for sure about Mark landscape mode. Always, don't mess with his Depeche mode. Yeah, that's right, landscape mode, no Depeche mode Also. Yeah, brett, good point Some people. So I just want to. I'm just going to get this out of the way.
Speaker 1:Okay, if you're sending in a pic of a bobblehead, it's a picture, it's a funny picture. It's not a shoot, it's a picture. That's the bobblehead thing. Okay, we're done with that Bobblehead picture. I'm not in the picture with the bobblehead. Aaron's not in the picture with the bobblehead. Aaron's not in the picture with the bobblehead. David Miscavige is not in the picture in the bobblehead. Unless you're taking a picture of the bobblehead right next to David Miscavige, he's not in there. Okay, that's the bobbleheads. The shoops Okay, those are Photoshop's of David Miscavige. Again, I'm not in those pictures. The bobblehead's probably not in those pictures. It could be, I guess, but it's a shoop of David Miscavige. So some people send in some shoops of me. No, I don't want that. I want David Miscavige shoops. If it's really funny then maybe.
Speaker 2:And now, ladies and gentlemen, you have a preview of the conversation that unfolded right before this live. I like this one.
Speaker 1:This is Sarasota Jimmy, Sarasota Jerry. He says Marcus just worked up because he ran out of crackers. That's so good. Oh, that's another thing If you want to put me in something.
Speaker 2:Sarasota, jerry in the house.
Speaker 1:People have been clipping. If you go on YouTube, you can make a clip of a video, so you can watch one of our videos and you can make a little clip and I think if it's under two minutes, I think if it's under two minutes long it can be a short. If you make one of those clips and you want to send it to me to meet for me to put up as a short, I will. Somebody sent me one today and it's the dirty cracker liquor quote and it's really short. It just says according to Scientology, I am a dirty cracker liquor. So somebody clipped that and sent it to me and I put it up. So if you want to do one of those, I'll put it up, but otherwise, yeah, and if you want to send me an email, we're going to make a submission page on the Blum for Good site for shoops and bobblehead pics and all that good stuff. But until then, if you go to the about page on the YouTube channel not the video, the channel, the About page of the channel on the lower left-hand side, you can click on the and there's an email there. You can't do it on a phone and you can't do it in an iOS app or an Android app. You have to do it on a computer, on a browser. Okay, thank you. There we go.
Speaker 1:Now that you have a legit BFG podcast, can we expect interviews with Jason Begay and Louis Theroux? Well, I don't know about Jason and I actually don't know about Louis. Louis was living in Los Angeles for a while and now he's in England and he's doing other things. He's moved on from the Scientology thing, but it's possible other things. He's moved on from, uh, the scientology thing, but it's possible. I mean, I know he did an interview. I think louis did an interview with rogan many years after his movie came out and they did talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 1:But, uh, yeah, if you, if you like podcasts and you're into the whole podcast scene, you can get the blood for good podcast on spotify, apple, google, anywhere. There's a podcast. There's 12 episodes up there and we're going to try. We're going to see how it works out over there, depending on if there's any traction, whether we do just podcast content or if the YouTube channel will share content with the podcast channel. We'll see how that goes. But thank you, thank you for that. We'll see how that goes, but thank you, thank you for that um diane. Jean valicio says mark and claire. Silly question do your background, do your background rep, represent your personalities? Claire's is light and mark's is dark. Love you both doing an awesome job. Yeah, that's pretty much it there yeah um, excuse me, the?
Speaker 1:um, yeah, I would say. I would say I'm definitely darker than claire, that's for sure. Um, there's no doubt about that comment. I'm sure miss scavage uh, this is rural sd lawyer. Uh, he's here all the time. Comment, I'm sure miss scavage will appeal, but it is unlikely he will prevail.
Speaker 1:I saw Aaron's video and parts of the document. Would love to see the entire document. Yeah, that's another thing we're going to do. Thanks for that. Rural SD lawyer. We're going to upgrade the Blown for Good website and when we do that we're going to make a page. Whatever documents we show, like all the scientology spy files, all the documents that we show, anything that we refer to there, we'll host over at the blown for good uh website so that you can, if you want to download something or if you just want to read through it, you could do that on your own time. Um, there's uh jerry again, sarasota jerry in the house. Hi y'all, hi, jerry, thanks for joining us. Um, yeah, I, you know, I think you're right. Uh, rural sd lawyer. I think muscavige will appeal.
Speaker 1:Scientology has been doing this for 70 years. They drag this legal process out. They milk every single possible step of the legal process. They milk it and milk it, and milk it, so that the opposing counsel and whoever the other people are they're fighting against they will eventually give up.
Speaker 1:Or Scientology, by delay, all their delay tactics and trying, they basically are throwing every single thing they can at the wall until something sticks, and every once in a while they somehow they catch a single thing they can at the wall until something sticks, and every once in a while they somehow they catch a break and they get a loophole and then it gets thrown out, or they figure out a way to kind of settle it. Or, you know, they always figure out a way to wiggle out for the last. Well, every time they've they've been able to wiggle out, they wiggle out. And that hasn't included them paying tens and tens and tens of millions of dollars to people they've been in lawsuits with. So this one's a little different, because I think it's a criminal case. So I don't exactly they really have to fight this if they don't want to lose. Ok, william Tubb, oh, he's just he. He declared it. He said Zeno, mike is the winner. Okay, well, I get William Tubb's spoken, guys.
Speaker 2:So that's it, it's over.
Speaker 1:Yeah, william is done, it's like yeah, oh yeah, a rural SD lawyer, just so I'm clear, landscape, right. Yeah, yeah, it's easy. It's easy, rural SDdy, keep it wide side to side. That's the way you remember. Whenever you see somebody taking a picture like this, you got to just grab their phone, go that. Oh, no, no, like that, there you go. Um, yeah, this, this whole idea that let media can be portrait, it's just perpetuated by people taking pictures the wrong way with their phones. And then people started to adapt. I will not adapt. I'm landscaped all day.
Speaker 2:Stubborn much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're not doing that. Laura Folk send the super stickers. She underscans the challenge is real.
Speaker 2:Landscape challenge is real. Laura, Thank you. Jld is real.
Speaker 1:Landscape challenge is real, laura, thank you. Struggling real. Oh, jld is me. This is my biggest fan. Jld is me. Claire, does Mark need some oven? Yeah, exactly, there you go, it wouldn't hurt. It wouldn't hurt People. Taking pictures in portrait is definitely not helping. Do you know? Daniel Elliott says do you know if dr ian shillington is still in? Cos I've never heard of a dr ian shillington. Um, you got to give us some clues here, daniel elliott. I mean, it's going out of the channel. If he's in, somebody might know where he is. But maybe, if you can see a follow-up question from daniel claire um, where are we looking at? Uh, us, uk, aussie? Uh, new zealand, spain, madrid? Uh, mexico, where was this guy operating? Maybe we can, uh, we can, send out the dogs and we can, we can, we can track him down.
Speaker 2:Just for giggles. Can I make a comment? Sorry, I can't resist. Look, mark got me some new earrings.
Speaker 1:I did. I did actually. I bought those. I did not have to dig in the couch for those. That was a Valentine's present and then, yeah, no, we didn't have to go in the couch, we didn't lose them. Um, okay, thank you, denver steve is back in here. Thanks, denver steve.
Speaker 1:Oh, very excited to hear claire is the official bfg mistress of interviews also pumped that bfg is now a podcast. Just remember to award your loyal youtube viewer viewers with awesome extra content. Yeah, I, I don't know. I don't know if there's a way to do that. I don't really I'm, I don't want to set up a Patreon because I don't. I mean, if you want to do, want to get something, but I try to give everybody the same.
Speaker 1:We do kind of prioritize the super chats during the week, but on the weekend we go just like wild and we just answer regular questions too and we are going to try to do it again. I don't know about Sunday, I'll let you guys know, but we are going to also try to do that An early. Somebody wrote a comment I'm dying over here. We're going to try to do an early live on on the weekend so that the people over in UK and Europe can watch a live, cause evidently it's a big thing to watch a live. Thank you, kim. Thank you for that. Here's JLD is me. She just got to get in another dig here. Mark, you are in portrait right now. Lol, I'm actually not. My picture is being cropped and it's two landscape images next to each other, so just for the record.
Speaker 2:Hey, by the way, Daniel answered and said that Dr Ian Shillington was a regular attacker of Mark Bunker in Clearwater. So, I'll check with Mark and see what the deal is and see if we can't get you some info. Daniel, Thanks for the question.
Speaker 1:Awesome, okay, good, I'm just going to send you a private here real quick Turn off your apps. Okay, if you don't have all your apps closed, then you should probably close them because you're starting to jack it up. Claire likes to do videos and interviews with about 787 apps open on her computer sometimes.
Speaker 2:Kathy Ann says.
Speaker 1:Kathy Ann says do you think a deposition by DM in this civil trial could lead to criminal charges? Love you both. Even when Mark's grumpy, I'm actually not grumpy. This is fun, mark.
Speaker 2:You kind of are. I have to say Just a tad honey.
Speaker 1:Do you think a depo by DM? I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I'm not. I'm not an experienced enough uh lawyer or know enough about legal stuff to know how DM. I don't think a deposition is going to lead to charges. That what the people uh find out and whatever um evidence they have find out and whatever evidence they have, it's a stretch. But even if anyone is convicted of a charge, then that's going to be a big deal. So even it'll be a big deal for Dave too. Sorry if I'm coming off as grumpy people. I don't know where that's coming from. Eg Johnson says I take portrait photos and I drop them into volcanoes for my DCA. Side note, my dad used to fly the DCA. That's awesome, eg.
Speaker 2:That's amazing.
Speaker 1:Oh, here's another one, catherine Pilon Mark, you're in portrait right now. Thank you, catherine, catherine in the house.
Speaker 2:Thanks for joining us. Just appreciate it.
Speaker 1:No, I like to be. No, I'm just who I am, you know, you got, oh, bert Pineapple's in here. He's we. Oh, clara Tis, my birthday in two days. Guys, I got to see you live today. It's like an early gift. Thank you, clara. Oh, thank you, clara. Is that the same Clara?
Speaker 2:That's Clara. Clara is so awesome.
Speaker 1:She is doing so much cool stuff right now for us that you guys are going to get to see. And oh, brett, you got to start the super chats. Here we go, brett, grace again, mom and dad, don't fight, it's Valentine's Day and you guys are really on the precipice of taking this FDF cult down via YouTube. Who would have thought? Ha? Yeah, I actually did a interview with this guy named Patrick Bet David. He's got a channel called Valuetainment. He's actually interviewed some pretty cool folks. Anyway, I was down in Texas, I did an interview with him anyway. Um, I was down in texas, I did an interview with him and, um, and one of the things he was saying is, if you're trying to do something and you think it's important, you might as well record it and leave a leave a record of it or a legacy. And that's kind of the thing that pushed me over the edge to the channel. I figured you know what I'm gonna do this. If we end up doing a play by play on taking those guys down, that would be pretty amazing. Um, that we, uh, we just televised the entire thing. Um, kay, kay, thank you Kay.
Speaker 1:I think I've seen stuff from her before. Mark is salty from all those crackers. Um, yes, the more I talk about this, the more cheerful I become. So the more you guys hound me about being grumpy, the more I cheer up, I think. I think that's all I needed. Tarkina Meyer says I hope I'm saying her name right. I pretty much say it the same way every week. Tarkina Meyer says hey, claire, when are we going to get part two of Catherine's interview? We'd love to hear about how she left Scientology and how she got in touch to the Aftermath Foundation. Yes, well, the answer to that is she actually already did those interviews with Chris Shelton and Aaron Smith Levin on their channels, and the interview that Claire did with her was just a bunch of different stuff that they didn't cover on those other interviews.
Speaker 2:We will do more, though we have lots of material still to cover. But, yes, the story of how she got out, how Catherine got in touch with the Aftermath Foundation, is definitely very well covered in those interviews that Mark just mentioned.
Speaker 1:Yeah, goldie, if you're currently in Scientology and would like help getting out, please click here. This is your sign http the aftermath foundationorg. Yeah, you know another thing that um, I I said it on another uh video somewhere. It might have been on a live, I don't remember but a lot of people wrote to me about it and they said, um, I had mentioned this thing. If you're in Scientology and you're kind of stuck and you're worried about getting disconnected and all these different things, and you, you, you are a victim of Scientology right now. And in Scientology, victim is a bad word and they don't really like to see themselves as victims because that's very low on the tone scale that they have in Scientology. Being, it's actually, I think that one of the tones is being a victim, isn't that what it's called?
Speaker 2:No, yes, it is.
Speaker 1:Look it up, somebody look it up down here it's either being a victim or victim. Just the word victim yeah, victim is is a tone on Scientology.
Speaker 2:Worshiping bodies is one Cover, hostility, you know.
Speaker 1:But not being a victim. Victim is very low. Yeah, yeah, something it's on there. It's on there, you'll see folks.
Speaker 2:Either way. Scientology is very big on victim shaming by virtue of that tone level being a bad thing to do. That's the bottom line.
Speaker 1:But if you leave Scientology and you stop being a victim, then you become a survivor. Yes, so we're not trying to popularize being a victim. We're not trying to popularize being a victim. We're trying to create survivors out of people that are getting abused or being taken advantage of and documented. Through our work at the Aftermath Foundation and I'm not speaking out of turn here We've experienced and spoken with multiple people who've experienced elder abuse at the hands of Scientology. So if you do have somebody who is elderly that is involved in Scientology, just write to them. Let them know that you're there for them, let them know that you'd love to come visit them. And if you're not able to receive communication and you have been and you're not able to get a hold of them, then there are places that you can call, depending on where they are. You can notify law enforcement that you suspect that your elderly relative is possibly being abused, because you used to be able to communicate freely with them and now, for some reason, you can't and you're not getting answers to your letters or your calls or whatever, and at least that's going to maybe find out where they're at and then that person may wish to speak with you to either let you know that they're okay or to let you know that they need someplace or somebody or something to help them and in that case, if that does come up, absolutely get a hold of the Aftermath Foundation and if that's something that we can do to help them, we will and we have. So we have a good amount of experience in this area. So, for all the people that wrote to me and that I didn't get back to you, those are some of the things you can do if you do have elderly relatives that you think are in Scientology and that possibly are not being treated as well as they should be.
Speaker 1:Stephen Britton says can you tell an org from a mission by sight? Absolutely the missions. Like Claire's stepfather, he worked at a mission. He worked at the Beverly Hills mission. He worked at a mission. He worked at the Beverly Hills mission. So arguably one of the at the time. This is in the nineties, arguably at the time one of the best performing missions in the world and it wasn't that busy.
Speaker 1:But these professionals, these very wealthy professionals and businessmen that were in Beverly Hills for some reason, or they live all over the United States. They would fly into Beverly Hills for business or to get counseling at the Beverly Hills Mission as sort of a status thing and Claire's stepfather would be the one that would do the counseling on them and they would raise a lot of money through this very expensive counseling. And that's stepfather would be the one that would do the counseling on them and they would raise a lot of money through this very expensive counseling and that's pretty much. They did that and some introductory courses and the purification rundown where you sit in the sauna and take lots of oil and vitamins and niacin and horrible for your body. But that was all they did and they were one of the best ones and they didn't have that many people, right, claire, there wasn't a lot of people in there doing counseling and studying.
Speaker 2:No, but they won the birthday game a couple of years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the.
Speaker 2:Erwin Herbert birthday game.
Speaker 1:So Scientology has this game that they play within all of the different levels of Scientology. So the missions have a birthday game and then the orgs have a birthday game. And so for Beverly Hills mission to win the birthday game for the mission category they have to be doing much, much more than any other mission in the world, and they weren't doing that much. So that kind of shows you how the missions are. The missions are usually like in a strip mall or somebody's living room or the back of another business, like a dentist office might have like a little ante room and that is officially the mission, and there might just be a bookshelf with some scientology stuff on it. They could be really, um, very, very at, whereas an org is also a small org could be also be in a strip mall, but usually they're supposed to be, you know, 10, 20, 30,000 square feet.
Speaker 1:And these new ideal orgs I want to say they're like 50,000 square feet, whatever the um, the Miscavige sort of bottom line square footage for one of these. So I hope that's the question. Ruth w, no public question. I just want to say I love and appreciate what you do for my sanity jackson, catherine included awesome.
Speaker 2:Hey, ruth, thank you, nice to see you here. Thanks for joining us nice um.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we have a lot of um. So we have a lot of ex-Scientologists, ex-ceorg members, current Scientologists and sort of these Scientologists. Well, I guess the current Scientologists would kind of be. They consider themselves under the radar If they don't want to be in Scientology but they can't really leave due to business or family relationships. Those people are called under the radar because they're kind of out but they're laying low so they don't pop up on Scientology's radar and then get forcefully disconnected or whatever happens from there. So there is a large majority of the, let's say, active 30 to 35,000 Scientologists and Sea Org members. There is a large percentage of them that do not want to be in Scientology but the only reason they stay is because they're gonna lose their family or they're gonna lose their job or they're gonna lose their house or whatever it's tied up with Scientology. So they play along to get along, so they can still be with their families and all that stuff, and the percentage of those people is sort of astounding.
Speaker 1:We had a story, remember, babe, we got somebody a fan that dad or a mom wrote to us or whatever, from one of the book line or something.
Speaker 2:You mean the Bob the Thetan, the person that knew no, no, no.
Speaker 1:The person that the family that wrote in, because the dad I think it was the dad, I can't remember who it was, but one of the parents wrote to us and said that they had bought my book oh and then, and they left somewhere, and then the spouse found it and this whole family was in Scientologists. It was a mom, a dad, a son and a daughter.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And they were all Scientologists and the parents were like doing their OT level, it was a whole thing. And one of the parents was reading my book and they left it somewhere. And then the other spouse found it and confronted them and then they were like oh my God, I can't believe you're reading this book. And and I think it was the husband who was reading the paperback and the wife said I've been reading it on my Kindle so you wouldn't find it. And then they were like, well, we got to tell the kids. And then they went to go get the kids and the kids were like, oh my gosh, I can't believe you guys took you guys this long.
Speaker 1:We've been reading stuff on the internet for like three or four years and the whole family was pretending to be Scientologists so the other members of the family wouldn't rat them out and none of them wanted to be in Scientology in the end. And I think they went out to dinner, like they had like a family, like let's go to Bennigan's, you know, like let's celebrate, we're not going to be wasting any more time on Scientology. So but it's very tricky. It's very tricky for Scientologists to make that step, because that's a story, that's a success story. That one went well. It doesn't usually go that way. Usually one member of that family is is going to either rat the other guys out or not want to leave, or who knows unfortunately in many ways.
Speaker 1:it's very complicated, yeah, and that's why when I left actually when I escaped from the international headquarters and I left claire there, I, I, in my heart of hearts, did not think that she would pick to come with me, as opposed to not be connected to any of her family members ever again. So I had to, I, I would, I was betting on that she would rat me out if I told her I was going to bail and then we both be stuck there, and so I bet.
Speaker 2:You could have at least given me the benefit of our question. Come on now.
Speaker 1:She didn't come home that night. If you guys know, you got to read my book. She never came home, so it was like sucks to suck, sucks to suck.
Speaker 2:I'm out I'm out, I get left behind. See ya, wouldn't want to be ya, anyway, okay, um funny in this context. How?
Speaker 1:we got all to that. If, uh, dave weihauer says, if shelly m divorces dm, wouldn't that open up his finances and the government, particularly the IRS? Take notice $500 lunches, lavish lifestyle, let alone money. I don't think so. He works for a nonprofit and they can say that he makes $300,000. And, by the way, $500 lunches, that's not a big deal in that kind of world.
Speaker 2:$500 lunches Some of the people that you'd be asking to like lawyers to represent in this case are having $500 lunches. So I will comment, though they definitely were very hip to the whole concern about anything that might open them up to accusations of inurement. So, for example, I had to prepare all the bonuses for the RTC staff one year and it was explicitly structured so that Dave was the highest paid person, Larisse was number two even though at that time Shelly was her senior, and then Shelly was number three. So yeah, we'll see where that goes.
Speaker 1:But they they're very aware of what things could trigger public records or stuff like that. Yeah, marilyn Honig. Oh, I got. I said show. Can you find that one? She's the one who crocheted the. I know who she is, I'll find it. I went to say show and I somehow I hit show. Can you find that one? She's the one who crocheted the thing.
Speaker 2:I know who she is, I'll find it.
Speaker 1:I went to say show and somehow I hit it. Sorry about that. I'll get you up there, Marianne Kaikavusi Kaikavusi.
Speaker 2:You should let me pronounce the names, honey, it would be much better.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness Marianne.
Speaker 2:Kaikavusi, there you go, that's my take.
Speaker 1:Okay Question If DM wife wants to get out, would you help her out? Oh, absolutely, claire and I both knew Shelly pretty well. Actually. I mean, for over the time I was there I had a very good relationship with Shelly. A lot of people didn't I did so I mean, she really was nice, shelly was my boss.
Speaker 2:For five years of the eight years I was in RTC, I had to report to her every day. You know, just like any of us, she's in a really bad spot. We would absolutely help her get out, for sure, 100%. And in the series I have planned of where Shey will be doing a deep dive into who shelly is and how she got to where she is today and hopefully we can change things, because I would really love to do that awesome kathy ann says is not wanting to be a victim, just a cult thing.
Speaker 1:So they don't blame their abusers. Nixxiom was the same way. Yeah, they have. I don't know about in other cults, but in Scientology they super super victim shame Like.
Speaker 1:If you're like, oh my God, I got in a car, no, you got in a car accident, that means you have over, it's your potential trouble source. You're connected to an SB, you pulled it in. If anything bad happens to you, if you get sick, if you have accidents, if you're accident prone, if you break your leg, if you stub your toe, you are a criminal and you've done something. Or you're connected to a criminal or somebody who's doing things and it's not. They don't mess around, it's fact. If you get sick, you're in trouble. If you have a car accident, you're in trouble. If you're in the Sea Org, you get in big trouble. If you're a public, then you have to pay to get out of trouble. Basically, yep, okay, Thank you. That was a great question. William Tubb has spoken again. We love Classy, claire and Grumpy Mark. There you go. Thank you, william. Grumpy old man Mark. There you go, Thank you. There you go, grumpy old man Panko. Wow, thank you, panko, happy Valentine's Day. Have a cold one on me. Thank you, panko, appreciate that.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:That's very generous, clara. Would an organization be able to volunteer for the aftermath? Like a workplace that offers jobs and housing? Absolutely yes, very definitely the hospitality industry. So they're like staffing hotels or they're training people on how to get a job for a hotel and then they're also providing hotels with people, recommendations of people that could possibly work at hotels all over the United States. So if we have somebody in a specific state that needs to get a job and they don't, and these Sea Org members have been making $45 a week, so when you say, oh well, it's only a minimum wage, josh, and a minimum wage job, they're going to make more in an afternoon than they made in a week.
Speaker 1:And if the aftermath has also got them, maybe in a dorm or they've got a roommate or we've got them with somebody who's going to give them a rent-free living situation for a few months while they get back on their feet, these are the things that we sort of people volunteer with, so it doesn't have to be. You don't actually have to do something to be a volunteer. You could provide a service or you could provide an introduction, or even if you know a job, like we're looking for a job for this guy in Hollywood right now, in the Los Angeles area, and if you have if there, if somebody has a place like that, like he could work at a hotel or he could work at you know whatever answering the phones, then if you write, if you go to the aftermath foundationorg, there's a place, it's a tab, I think it says volunteers and then we can get your info and you can be added to the database. Mark Fisher says hey, how did you miss my super chat?
Speaker 2:I found it, Mark. I'm so sorry. I started this question and then I went back. Was it in portrait? Was it in portrait, the question?
Speaker 1:I started this question and then I went back Was it in portrait? Was it in portrait the question? I threw those all away. Mark Fisher says hi, mark and Claire.
Speaker 2:There we go, See double whammy. Okay, and Mark is one of my upcoming interviews, by the way. So thank you for doing that with me, Mark.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I knew Shelly, so I'm one of the people who gets to get interviewed this super chat. I knew Shelly.
Speaker 2:So I'm one of the people who gets to get interviewed this super chat. Oh no, I meant Mark Fisher, but you too. Oh yeah, Mark Fisher, Sorry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just assumed Mark with a C and Mark with a K. You're going to interview Fisher too. Yes, oh, that's going to be amazing. Yeah, because he was, he was well, he was in RTC.
Speaker 2:Yes, he was.
Speaker 1:He was the corporate liaison in charge. Yes, okay, denver Stevo. Thank you, denver Stevo. This super chat is only for Claire Punished for Mark making her crush her motorcycle. Claire, krm again. I didn't actually make.
Speaker 2:I didn't say you made me. I simply commented that you're the one who taught me how to ride a motorcycle. So when I had that massive, awful accident, you felt guilty for teaching me how to ride a motorcycle, that's all.
Speaker 1:Not because of how I taught you, just because I got you able to ride a motorcycle.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But yeah, no, Claire was riding her motorcycle at the international base and a girl, a lady's dog it was actually Mark Yeager's ex-wife, michelle jaramillo her little dog ran out into the road and the girl in front of claire was riding a motorcycle. She slowed down and crossed in front of claire and claire hit the back of her motorcycle and claire's leg hit the back of her motorcycle and Claire's leg hit the foot peg and broke the foot peg off the motorcycle and broke both Claire's leg bones clean.
Speaker 2:Tibia and fibula just above my ankle, and then I fell down and broke my shoulder. The impact broke my shoulder and then, because security David Miscavige, was on the property when this happened, and so there was a firm rule that nobody could call 911 when he was there. So, instead of calling an ambulance, kevin Catano came and put a splint on my leg. That made it so that, and then they smashed me into this little red Honda that the medical officer would drive, and by the time I made it to the Hemet Hospital, they had to do six hours of testing because they thought they were going to have to remove my foot altogether. So there you go. The doctor would not tell me I would ever be able to walk again, so it's a blessing now that I get to run up a mountain every day for therapy, woo-hoo.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you would never know. We used to call her Robo Mama for a while because she had all this metal in her life. No, you called me, robo Wife.
Speaker 2:You made me keep the titanium rod when they took it out. It was pretty funny.
Speaker 1:Okay, good, here we go. Socal Chuck says I've heard that you have to look up every word. What is the official dictionary used, or do they have their own and charge for it?
Speaker 2:Go, or do they have their own and charge for it? Go ahead, claire. You can answer that yes, so you pick your dictionary based on your level. They have a few recommended Hubbard recommends the Oxford English Dictionary and a few others. They do also have their own dictionary for words that relate to the administration of Scientology, and then they have another dictionary that's only words related to the technical parts of Scientology. So anytime you go to study you should expect to be hearing a stack of like six dictionaries. And yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1:And you don't look up every word, you just look up any word that you don't understand and then, once you're done reading something in Scientology maybe people don't know this we should maybe talk about some of the dumb, silly, technical things in Scientology more often, things in Scientology more often. But if you read something like if you read something Hubbard wrote and it's 10 pages long in Scientology, if it's on how to work in Scientology, it's called a policy letter and if it's how to do the counseling or the training in Scientology, it's called a bulletin. Whenever you read a policy or whenever you read a bulletin or whenever you listen to an L Ron Hubbard lecture, you get what's called a star rate or a checkout and you team up with another student and another student who has already read the thing that you just read. If he's already read it, then he's okay to give you a star rate or a checkout on it.
Speaker 1:And what he does is he quizzes you and he just goes through it and he asks you what random words mean and if you don't know the definition of a word or you give the wrong definition of the word, he says flunk, restudy and he gives you it back. It's big, it's, it's, it's like it's a, it's a, you get you. Basically you fail the test. It you only have to flunk one thing. If you don't know one word, the definition of it, and then your buddy says flunk, he gives it to you and he says you have to restudy. You have to look up that word and then you have to read everything past that word. You have to read that again. So if you flunk a word on the very first page, you have to reread the whole entire document.
Speaker 2:Now but not only that, let me let me insert so I was a supervisor for five years, and so in addition to the supervisor is a person that supervises students only.
Speaker 1:It's not like the real world where you have a supervisor just boss to certain people. No A supervisor in Scientology is the boss of students. Okay, carry on.
Speaker 2:It's like a teacher in a classroom, except that you're just making sure that people are doing their studies. But part of my job would be to randomly just do what they called a spot check. So you'd go up to the student and be like okay, so what are you studying here? All right, what's the definition of the word yada, yada? And if they flunk that, then similarly they have to go all the way back to the beginning, and then you have to do all kinds of other actions with them just because they went by a word they didn't understand, which is a big crime in Scientology.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So if you do that once or twice it's not a big deal. But if every time the supervisor or another student is giving you a checkout, if you flunk a lot, then that means you're not doing study technology right. That means you're not applying L Ron Hubbard's study technology, and then you can get in a whole bunch of trouble for that or you can have to redo a course all over. So you want to know all the words and what they mean, otherwise you're going to get in trouble. So it's not like oh, you have to look words up. No, if you don't, you're going to get caught. They're going gonna catch you. Uh. Marilyn Honig says thanks, guys, I crocheted Zinu Mark. I made the robe front and back and slipped it over his head, then tied on the belt. Ah, the head is a hat.
Speaker 2:Oh my, it's so good it's so good, it's so awesome.
Speaker 1:Marilyn, I'm not sure if you care, but I want it. I want to buy it from you or I want to pay you to make another one. So Claire will get a hold of you and, yeah, I want it. So if I can't have that one, I want another one, just like it, and I will pay for it. So it's amazing. It made my week. To be honest, it really did make my week. It was awesome.
Speaker 2:Okanagan Lake. Okanagan Lake this summer.
Speaker 1:Beautiful British Columbia style Nice. That sounds amazing. That would be a great picture.
Speaker 1:Yes, it would we have so many good pictures, and that's the other thing. The SP store, or the SP shop, is also. The site over there is getting upgraded and we are going to have a gallery of every single bobblehead pick that we've ever been sent, which is in the thousands. So we will put those all up over there so you guys can enjoy those and if you've sent one in, that's where it'll ultimately end up. Sarah Soda, jerry says, mark and Claire, thanks for mentioning my YouTube video last night. It got 2,000 views. After you talked about it, made a new one last night and mentioned Mark. Oh boy, we'll have to check that out. We'll have to check it out. We'll link to that one. Remember, you've got to make a list. You've got to make a note.
Speaker 2:Okay, jerry.
Speaker 1:Jerry video link. We'll put it in the description Get him some more views.
Speaker 2:And, by the way, sarasota Dairy the reason we mentioned it is because it was just so darn funny as soon as I saw it I was like Claire, you gotta see this.
Speaker 1:I showed her I think it was that night one time and I was like, oh, you gotta look at this. I can't tell if this guy's real or fake. It's so good it's gotta be fake, but it could be real, I don't know. Okay, stephanie Stewart says portrait, miami org. Shot in portrait. Sorry, almost ran over the person coming out the bank. Yeah, that's what happens when you shoot in portrait You're running people over. People are getting money falling out of their hands when they get hit by cars. Yeah, just keep everything in landscape. Nobody has to get hurt. Thank you, stephanie. I appreciate it. Yes, thank you, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2:Somebody said there's like 1,200, 1,300 people in the chat.
Speaker 1:I know there's a lot, Just a reminder hit the like button if you like listening to us yada, yada about this stuff. Yeah, and subscribe. Mark, Claire, Aaron, Mike, Goldie and Osa. Enjoy your company at my kitchen table. Enjoy your company at my kitchen table. Enjoy your company at my kitchen table.
Speaker 2:Oh, because, they're there too, thank you.
Speaker 1:Yes, thanks, annette. Yeah, Osa's watching this right now. Guys, it's so amazing that we have a direct line right into Scientology. These videos are getting transcribed, they're picking out key things and you guys, we're going to show some amazing David Miscavige shoops later on. Osa some of these shoops are amazing and the winner of last week just hands above everybody. Just, however you say it, they got way more votes.
Speaker 1:It's 7 o'clock right now and about 15 minutes. I'm going to have answered all these questions, hopefully, and then we're going to show those. We'll end off and show those David Miscavige shoops, which are amazing, and Osa, this is going to be. We're going to do this for the rest of the time. There's just people are sending in. What's it called? Dolly Dolly, it's the AI, the artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence photo generator, and I will tell you something that's super, super spooky is people are using different ones and saying different things, but the AI is making them all look very eerily similar, which is kind of crazy. So I don't know what that's all about. But anyway, let's get through these questions so we can do that. Oh, a neuromant. What is that?
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll answer that In the nonprofit world absolutely so that would be is the concept of somebody reaping personal benefit from funds and misuse of funds. That would be another simple term, but inermant specifically relates to the nonprofit field, and so it's. It's just a hot topic that the IRS would be able to go in on very, very easily. That Miscavige and company were very aware of. That they had to be alert to in a simple few sentences. There you go.
Speaker 1:Okay, kathy B, you both must have been making money to own motorcycles. Who paid for the insurance?
Speaker 2:making money to own motorcycles. Who paid for the insurance? I started this question because, no, we were making $46 a week. To be very clear, these were not motorcycles, we could drive on the road. They were. Well yours was, mine wasn't. I was planning to try and steal a license plate so I could drive off on mine, but I didn't go that route.
Speaker 1:She could have driven it on the road. Hers was not licensed. The property where we work the international headquarters is 500 acres. It's like a tiny little Disneyland in the middle of the desert. If you go to Google Maps and say gold base or int base or Gilman Hot Springs, you can see where this is. It's in the middle of the desert and right where this little property is it's all green because they're watering and making it all green in this one little tiny place.
Speaker 2:All of that, except not Disneyland Hotel California is far more on point.
Speaker 1:Either way, you don't need insurance to drive the motorcycle around the property, and both of the motorcycles that we owned were used motorcycles that we bought from other SeaWorld members and because both of our jobs required we travel all over the property. If you walked you wouldn't get anything done because it would take 20 to 30 minutes just to get from one place to another place. So I hope that answers the question, and if you want to know the motorcycle that we owned, it's called a Yamaha TW200, which is a very inexpensive little motorcycle. I think you can buy them brand new for like $3,500 now, but I mean, I think Claire bought hers for like $1,500, and I might have bought mine for $400. So anyway, okay, and that's when you save up your pay for like half a year, you can buy a motorcycle. Stop eating junk food from the canteen and save it and buy a motorcycle.
Speaker 2:That they mark up, by the way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they do. They make money on the food that they sell us. Robert King 10 super sticker. Thank you very much, robert King.
Speaker 2:I appreciate that. Thank you, Robert. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1:Dylan Chatterton says I remember being sick and having to hide it or pretend it wasn't.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah or it wasn't, because it wasn't considered. I wasn't considered, I wasn't considered, it wasn't considered an upstate thing to be and I was PTS and needed handling yes, so that's another thing there.
Speaker 1:That is a big thing with kids in Scientology, because they know that if they get sick they're going to get in trouble. So they hide being sick or they try to, not, they try to be away from the house if they're sick. So the parents won't make them do a PTS handling or go to the organization and get a handling or have to write up their overts and withholds or things like this. It's ridiculous. Maxwell Edison's mom, what can some of us folks in the Deep South that have no Church of Scientology anywhere near us do to help the Aftermath Foundations besides buying merch? You can just volunteer to be maybe, if you like I said if you maybe if you have a room that you could rent out or if you have like a guest house that you could have somebody stay in.
Speaker 1:Sometimes we do have Sea Org members or Scientologists that have relocated to an area where it doesn't have any Scientology but the relative is not capable of giving them very much assistance because they themselves don't have extra space or they don't have any extra income to be able to spare or anything like that. But we want the escaping Scientologist or SEAC member to be able to have a place to live near that person. Sometimes, if you had an extra room or you had a guest house or you have an apartment building that sometimes has an empty unit for a month or two, then maybe that's how you could volunteer. So it doesn't matter if you're anywhere near a Scientologist. Sometimes we have people that need a ride to the airport. Sometimes we have people that need a ride to the airport. Sometimes we have people that just need to be picked up from one place and taken to another place, so anybody can help pretty much anywhere. That's the moral of the story.
Speaker 2:Jen Fralick asked if we accept clothing donations and we have on a specific need-by-need basis, in which case we'll send out an email saying the person's size and so forth. We don't have unlimited storage to hold on to such things, but yes, on a case-by-case basis. If somebody asks for that, we've sent out emails to all of our volunteers. And then another thought is we have a couple of people right now that we're helping with tutoring to get their GEDs, because it's a very common problem in Scientology that education is poo-pooed and dismissed and by the time somebody gets out they have no education. So we have two people we're helping with that. So just throwing it out there. If somebody has experience with adult education, tutoring for GEDs, please reach out to me. I would be very, very interested. We have a great guy but can't can always get more help. So there you go.
Speaker 1:Awesome, okay, um Brett Gray says OSA in the house.
Speaker 1:Thank you, um I the Aftermath website, if people want to go to that, because we've been talking a lot about the Aftermath Foundation tonight, a lot of people have been very, very, very interested. Oh, and that's another thing, if you just sign up for a volunteer, if we need, like, say, somebody is trying to escape and they need a laptop because they're really good at this, but if they had a laptop they could do that and they could make some money. And then we might say, hey, if anybody's got this kind of laptop, we're looking for some. And we got three laptops got sent in and we ended up using those for three different people. Basically, in the few weeks or whatever after we got them in, we were able to place those and it made a huge different difference for that person, which all they needed was they just need a laptop. Okay, kathy B, you both be making oh, I already said that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, here we go, claire, you are a super woman.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Claire, could you mention the other organizations you've worked with regarding child advocacy and the legislation you mentioned regarding help for children and cults?
Speaker 2:Well, so this is a dream of mine would be to make it illegal to involve children and cults. I'm all for any suggestions as to how I might make forward progress on that front. Make forward progress on that front. I've worked with, we've had numerous meetings with FBI and documenting our experiences, but at this point it's a hope and a dream to someday accomplish that.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Kathy Ann says can you explain the Chase Bank at the end of the personal Xenu video? Heard you mention it but I hadn't heard that story. Oh, so there's a video. I shared it yesterday in a live or one of the lives. I'll put a link. Write that down, claire, we got to put a link to that. Zinu personal Zinu video.
Speaker 1:Okay got it. At the very end of the video it says it's a very funny video, but at the very end of the video it says we don't accept. They're trying to get people to give them money the whole video. And at the very end of the video they say we don't accept Chase, it's because in Scientology, several years ago, there was a giant flap within Scientology flap within Scientology.
Speaker 1:Whereas they had these people that would get multiple credit cards set up for somebody and then they'd max out the cards this is a Scientology organization and they would charge up the cards and then the person would end up declaring bankruptcy or whatever, but Scientology would have gotten the $100,000. They did this so many times in so many different places all over the world and Chase figured out these are all Scientology places, that this is happening. And then it turned out it was a thing that they were doing and they'd kind of got some hack, that they'd been rolling on these credit cards. It's not just Chase. Chase just is the one that shut it down and said we're not letting you do it anymore. Amex and Visa and MasterCard and all these other cats, they're just letting it go. So it's bizarre, but Chase put their foot down and so Scientology can no longer use Chase for credit cards to charge cards, and this had also happened in Amex in the late 80s or the 90s. The same thing happened with American Express and American Express shut down Scientology.
Speaker 1:So it's very common for Scientology to be themselves involved in financial irregularities and they often accuse others pick me, pick me of doing the same, even though they're getting lit up for it and getting charged and going to jail and all these things that are going to happen. But yeah, they didn't file any charges on anything I did. That was this story, okay, bella lotta says uh, bought your book on sunday at bfg. Your shipping person is fantastic. She needs a raise. Well, I'll let her know when I see you.
Speaker 2:You're so sweet um that's the shipping table yeah, right there, kathy.
Speaker 1:kathy ann says I'm sure this has. But, mark, did you ever get to go back and speak to the cops who helped when escaping? Yeah, when we had our lawsuit with Scientology, those police, those law enforcement officers, were deposed and we got all kinds of stories and we ended up getting some information from the captain of the unit that was on duty that day.
Speaker 2:And the back story was unbelievable. They literally called for backup because they felt so threatened by the car full of gold security guards. It was just crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ok, stacy. There you go. Stacy, why your escape story? Well, crazy is what makes what, make what you're doing so important, and we love to encourage both the shenanigans, shoops and spy files. Much love to you both on Valentine's, thank you.
Speaker 2:Stacey. Thank you, stacey, that's very nice, it's not.
Speaker 1:This is not easy to do if you don't have a little bit of encouragement every once in a while. Gary Jackson Moorhead says what I told Claire about the other day earlier today is proof OSA is alive and very active. What did he tell her?
Speaker 2:We'll save that for my end, oh oh, because you guys did it OK.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got it OK good, we'll let it, we'll let it go.
Speaker 2:No boy. No, I'm really sorry, jackson.
Speaker 1:OBG Foster. What do years of low pay in the Sea Org do to SS payments which are based on income?
Speaker 2:A whole lot of nothing, yeah, no.
Speaker 1:I said this in one of the last videos, but we were getting paid $50. And out of that $50, you were taking out SDI, fica and I can't remember the other one. I think there's three sdi fica and one other thing, but about four dollar. Four dollars and change, so that's what you're paying in in taxes every week. It doesn't add up to a lot, but even, like I said, um, when scientology, when c-org members in particular those are the ones that are getting 50 bucks a week are paying so little in, but when, by the time you get 80 or 70 or 65 or whatever, you start falling apart in the Sea Org and those people age a lot quicker because they're being used and abused.
Speaker 1:You know you're working 100 plus hours hours a week every week. Uh, three, 65 in most cases. Um, you might get Christmas off, you might get new year's off and you may be. You have a CR day. So maximum is about three days off, um, just regular.
Speaker 1:And then if you're in, depends on what C work base you're at you might get every other week. You might be able to have like some time on Sunday, regardless when you get to be an elderly person and you retire in the Sea Organization. They set it up with a home that gets paid for by your disability and then whatever's left they send to those credit cards. They do the same thing I was talking about with the Chase wave the Scientology Chase scandal. They've been also. They've been having these elderly people. They've been stacking up a bunch of cards in their names and then while they're in the old folks' home they're racking up all the credit cards and giving that money to Scientology and whatever little tiny bit left over after the nursing home is paid, they use that leftover to pay the minimum balances on the credit cards until they pass away.
Speaker 2:Truly and actually criminal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is a documented we have. You know, what do folks end up doing with the uniforms, books, certificates etc. After they've escaped? Do they tend to hold on to them and then dispose of it when they're ready? Is it hard? Go ahead, claire.
Speaker 2:So when I was escaping at the Riverside bus station, I went into the bathroom and I threw my uniform in the garbaggio.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, most people don't keep any of that stuff. They leave it there because they just escape with the clothes on their back In most cases. Sometimes you pack a bag but you're not going to need your uniform and all that. There's no emotional connection to that. For me there was.
Speaker 2:It was ironic to me that we used to get asked if we were part of the Salvation Army. We would go to the mall or something rare. On the rare occasion we would have an hour at the mall. They'd be like, oh, do you work for the Salvation Army? I'm like no.
Speaker 1:Yeah, marco Esquindoles says Mark, did you work on the audio books for L Ron Hubbard's Pulp Fiction books? They are all very well produced. Yes, in the early days when we first started making those, those were made at Golden Era Productions and we did audio books, we did L Ron Hubbard lectures, we did music albums, we did films, we did videos, dvds, cassettes, vhs. We pretty much made anything you could figure out audio visual and we did in fact work on some of those. Liz Turner, speaking of yada, yada, yada, it's Valentine's Day. Have a little Mark and Claire time. Kids, we love you guys. Thank you, liz, appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Liz.
Speaker 1:Let me see, I think that's it. I think I got all the questions and I did it in about 15 minutes, so it's like right on time. I hope we didn't miss any super chats, Leaving that up to my assistants here. So if anybody got burned, I'm sorry about that. But you know I can. I'm just I'm double checking right now because I got I got a little bit of heat in the comments every once in a while when I skip the any super chats and we did a bunch of non super chats too.
Speaker 1:We did. Oh yeah, I know I did a ton of non super chats and we did a bunch of non-super chats too. We did, oh yeah, I know I did a ton of non-super chats. One of the things we're going to show these uh, david miscavige shoes in just a minute.
Speaker 1:But one of the things I wanted to say is somebody asked, uh, in one of the chats if, if dave miscavige had any particular water that he liked to drink and I think it was in the the live that we did last night and it was a super chat and we missed it. And I wanted to say the kind of water that David Miscavige had almost a fascination with was a brand of water called Penta and I remember that he would only drink that water. So if there was like sparklets or Dasani would not touch it. He had to have his Penta waters. And the story that was going around the base and I don't know where this came from, but the story that I was told was that they weren't going to make this water anymore and they they were going to go out of business and they were getting sued or some weird thing was happening and they weren't going to make this water anymore and they were getting sued or some weird thing was happening and they weren't going to make this water anymore.
Speaker 1:So David Miscavige had it all, purchased Whatever was left pallets and pallets and pallets of this water were brought to the international headquarters and they were in this building that was called Archive Storage and there was just cases and cases of pallets and pallets of all this water that, because they were not gonna make it anymore, dave had it all purchased and shipped to the property. And I was trying to remember what brand it was and I looked and they still make it to this day. So I have no idea if that was some kind of weird Shore story for the base of why we had to buy all this water, or maybe they really weren't going to make it or something like that. Yeah, should I assume there were no paid vacation when you took a rare date off? Oh, my goodness, that is funny, jay dies. No accumulated when they didn't pay you, true? If I'm too late, it's okay. No, listen.
Speaker 2:Paid vacation. We'd be like a Sea Org member would be like what's this paid vacation you speak of?
Speaker 1:I got my social security statement and there were three or I think I want to say three or four years where it was listed as zero paid into social security for that year. So we didn't get paid the whole entire year. And there was this thing they called it back pay. Like, maybe you'd get back pay and maybe when they caught up, you'd get this back pay and a lot of people. I personally had an Excel spreadsheet that tracked all my back pay, so I knew to the penny how much I was owed. Yeah, they never paid that. No one ever got that back pay. So I knew to the penny how much I was owed. Yeah, they never paid that. No one ever got that back pay. But yeah, there's definitely no paid vacation. There was. I mean, if we were really really good, we got the 45 bucks a week. If we were awesome, if we were rock stars, at Christmas time, we might get a hundred dollar bonus or maybe even a two hundred dollar bonus, and that was pretty much it. There was bonuses and there was all kinds of bonus systems and all that, but those were almost always never active and you couldn't really do it. So, yeah, I'm trying to end off. And now all these super chats like a super sticker, linda Pico does things, and then I saw one from Catherine. Oh, here it is.
Speaker 1:When older SO members get start getting their Social Security payments, they would get heavily regged for donations to the IAS Planetary Dissemination Unit. Yeah, so that's another thing. So if you did get money and you were still working and stuff like they couldn't get it home or charge up credit cards or whatever, they would have you pay for auditing. Like if you were, maybe you weren't doing so well physically, they'd say, well, you could handle that with Scientology auditing. Even though you're a Sea Org member, you're supposed to get that for free. They would still charge you for it and then maybe put you on ahead of somebody else to get it.
Speaker 1:And then the same thing would happen if you got an inheritance or if you had wealthy parents that maybe sent you like a thousand dollars or ten thousand dollars. Or maybe you had a relative that passed away and he left you some money and you get like $200,000. They would. Then it didn't matter if you were a SEER member, didn't matter where you work. They try to get that money from you because what are you going to do with it? You don't need it and they would pressure you to give over whatever money you had. Okay, one last one. Oh no, that's it.
Speaker 2:All right, okay, we okay. One last one. Oh no, that's it all right. Yeah, okay, we're good shoot time ah, is it shoot time?
Speaker 1:it is shoot time. Okay, guys, it's shoot time. Um, last week this was the winner three men and a davy baby. Now I I am a silly person and I mixed up the movies and instead of three men and a baby I said it was look who's talking. So this is three men and a baby and this is the winner of last week. So you win a bobblehead or an SP bracelet or a book or whatever you want. Claire will get a hold of you in the email and you win, you win, you win Shoop of the Week three men and a Davey baby.
Speaker 1:And now I know I contradicted myself because it has Davey Miscavige in it and it has me and it has Aaron Smith-Levin and it is Mike Render. But it's so good that I can't. I got outvoted, I got the people spoken. It's the good that I can't. I got outvoted, I got the people spoken. It's the winner, Yep, and it's also. I actually don't mind that picture of me. Some pictures of me are really rough, but that one's okay, so I can take it. Okay, so that was the winner of last week. So now we have to say, because I cut this video into its own video. So I have to say right now, this is David Miscavige's Shoops of the Week.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:Okay, I used this fun one. This is called Fantasy Religion. This is a shoop in the theme of Fantasy Island, in the theme of fantasy island and, uh, that uh taller gentleman there would be elron hubbard playing the part of rick. Was it ricardo montalban? And this is I can't remember the name, the guy's name, but this is uh. Davey miscavige is playing tattoo was the character name. I don't actually remember the name of the character, but this is a great one.
Speaker 2:Somebody said, mr Rourke, Mr Rourke.
Speaker 1:Ricardo Montalban played Mr Rourke, and then I don't remember this guy, the actor's name, I think it's Herve.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Herve Villachez from Odd's man, yeah.
Speaker 1:Herve Villachez, yesman. Yeah, herve Villachez. Yes, he was also in one of the Bond movies. I remember that from when I was a kid. Okay, so now this is just a cover. We haven't even gotten to the shoes. This is no sleep for you. This is David Miscavige, the sleep. I don't say the word, but you know what I mean Hitler's Boys.
Speaker 2:But hold on, yeah, so let's look at the nuggets of this one.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, easter eggs.
Speaker 2:The Easter eggs. Of course there's Bobble Mike, but somebody actually got the Massacre Canyon Inn logo on that cup there. Massacre Canyon Inn is the building at the headquarters where all the staff, if they had dining privileges, would eat their meals.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, and there's probably other Easter eggs and Easter eggs in here. We haven't seen. But this is no soup for you, dave. Ok, next one.
Speaker 1:Now, this is one of my personal favorites. This is Kids Join Little Davies Navy Super cool navy and it has a life-size David Miscavige and he's standing on a little Fisher-Price little freewinds boat. And then this one's got amazing Easter eggs in it too, and there's a whole thing. That's why I want to be able to host these on my website. But there's a whole little Davies, little Navy, little tips, all the things you get to do and how kids are just short adults and all this other stuff. This one is very amazing and this entire shoot is Dave in the bathtub with this little boat, and then the whole background is a shower curtain. Very, very creative. There's just so much detail and so much went into this one. So this is Little Davies Navy and this is a high quality piece of work here. Folks, I don't know if you know Photoshop, but this person's got mad skills. I love it and very creative, very. But this person's got mad skills, I love it and very creative, very, very creative.
Speaker 2:Yes, good job.
Speaker 1:Now, this is not something we showed last week. Claire assures me that I did not show this last week and that this is just a new Photoshop, similar to the ones we did last week, similar to the ones we did last week, and so it's. There are people like these little guys and they like making David Miscavige in with these little guys, and it just I don't know, I can't, I can't stop what the people want. So this is I can't remember. Is this wizard of Oz or is this Oompa Loompa? Somebody's got it. I think it's a lollipop guild.
Speaker 2:It's the Lollipop Guild.
Speaker 1:So that's Wizard of Oz right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you say so.
Speaker 1:It's been a long minute Either way we're going to call this Lollipop, dave, and we're going to move on.
Speaker 2:I haven't seen Wizard of Oz since before I joined this organization.
Speaker 1:Okay. Now this one is Tom and Dave do Titanic. So this is the maiden voyage ceremony 2023. And this is Tom and Dave do Titanic. So I mean, it's okay, I like a little Davies Navy better, but some people might, some people might be big rows. And what's the other guy's name? Leonardo, I know Leonardo some people might be real big Rose and Jack fans the original was far better.
Speaker 2:This ruins it for me. I watched the Titanic 50 times, so that's Titanic, dave and then Clary shares.
Speaker 1:This is yet another picture, not one that we got last week. This is a whole new one. And this is Lollipop Dave 2. Lollipop Dave 2. Now this is Lord Farquad, and this is Dave, as Lord Farquaad and Farquaad is from the Shrek franchise. And this is Dave Farquaad. Okay, and this is Hulk Hogan. Now Hulk Hogan has been all in the news these days. He's having beef with A-A-Ron and I think A-A-Ron won that round. So Hulk, I think, is now going after Dave Miscavige to punish him for getting him dragged into this whole mess. And this is Hulk Hogan and Dave. Hulk Hogan and Dave folks, and I think I want to say Dave is about to tap out.
Speaker 1:I don't know what they have in wrestling. I'm not familiar with wrestling. I grew up in a cult. I didn't get to watch wrestling. But I don't know if they have like a rear naked choke, or do you tap out or do you just get a chair smashed over your head after this. I'm not sure exactly what happens. But this is Hulk Hogan and Dave. Now, this one is David McScott-age, and this is the guy from the Office and I think his name is. I didn't watch the Office. I grew up in a cold.
Speaker 2:I didn't get to watch the Office.
Speaker 1:Steve Carell was the actor, but I don't know Michael Scott. It says world's best boss, and then he has Michael Scott's face on David Miscavige. So okay, it is David Miscavage is what the Shoop artist said. Okay, now this is Off to Target 2. This is L Ron Hubbard. He's the front elf there, the leading elf, I want to say, with just a little teeny bit more sparkle power than the second elf, I want to say with just a little teeny bit more sparkle power than the second elf. And David Miscavige is the second, the following elf, with a tiny, just smaller sparkle power particles and not as many. And this is the elf Elrond and Dave Elves. Okay and okay.
Speaker 1:Now this is yet another lollipop. Somebody said I asked for these. We may have mentioned this in a previous live and maybe it just took people a little longer to get to it, but this is the second week in a row we've had, uh, multiple guilds. So this is lollipop lollipop guild number three. And, um, this one just got a whole head just plunked right on. Uh, not the best photoshop work, but, um, it looks life-size to me, it looks accurate, looks photo real, and it could or could not be a real picture, from what I can tell.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure I grew up in a cult. I don't know a lot about photoshop, but, um, yeah, this is uh lollipop guild number three and this one. Now, this is the one I used for the cover, which is uh, uh, tattoo and mr rourke, and mr rourke is being played by L Ron Hubbard and Tattoo is being played by David Miscavige. Now I don't have a vote. This all gets tallied in the comments. Whether or not I can affect the vote, I'm going to say that it's a toss-up between Little Davies Navy and fantasy religion.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to comment. The best is yet to come.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can make it If you've, if you want one or the other to win. You got to get in those comments and you got to, you got to show. But I'm saying it's either little Davies Navy right here this is solid work or fantasy religion little Davies Navy or fantasy religion Little Davies Navy or fantasy religion. That's what I think. You guys can vote for any of the other ones if you like those better, but those are the two that I think are are worthy and I will let I will let the whole week go by and next week we will announce the winner and, um, I just want to make sure there's nothing else.
Speaker 2:I didn't skip any will you have your hot and cold?
Speaker 1:running staff tally up the winner honey yeah, but I actually I I jumped the gun. This one is snow white. I didn't know. This was in the deck. This is a new one. I this is even new to me and, um, this looks like. Is that snow white?
Speaker 2:yes, snow white, and one of her dwarfs oh, my god, you know what?
Speaker 1:there's a bunch more guys, okay. So I'm gonna show the rest, and actually I might have to take back what I said, because I left the very best for last, so don't just just go crazy yet. Okay. So this is Snow White and Dave. This is pretty good. Snow White and Dave again looks very photorealistic to scale. I'm not sure what this is. This says can I give you some advice? And then Mike says absolutely not. I don't know if it's from Philly, sunny in Philadelphia, maybe that's my guess, and I think that last one was Dopey with Snow White.
Speaker 2:So Dopey.
Speaker 1:Dave. We can call it Dopey Dave, just because that's fun, dopey Dave, and this one will be. We'll call this one Philly Dave. I guess, philly Dave, maybe Davey, all your worst nightmares come true. Oh yeah, that I remember. Now my mind cut off after the one of those last shoes, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because they were landscape, and then everything past that wasn't landscape, so I just blacked them out of my memory and my mind and so that's what we're doing now. So, anyway, there's one or two really good portrait ones, so we're going to go Okay, davey, all your worst nightmares. And this is Dave. This is Chucky Dave. So it's Chucky doll with the little Dave face. So this is Chucky Dave. Davey, all your worst nightmares come true. This is Mans, the little dave face. So this is chucky dave davey, all your worst nightmares come true. This is manson dave. And this is a picture of david miscavige in front of the scientology building with charlie manson's head on him, and I think this might even be the picture from when he did his perp walk prior to carving the um, the little symbol that he carved into his forehead. So this is Manson Dave.
Speaker 1:Okay, this is Ant-Man Dave. Now, I don't know if you're familiar with the Marvel Universe, but the Ant-Man's not a bad guy. It's also played by Paul Rudd, who's a fellow Kansas City guy. So maybe I don't like this one so much because it kind of throws some shade on Ant-Man and Paul, who's perfectly cool. So I'm not so sure about this one, but this is Ant-Man Dave. This is also one that I don't know. It just says we're just in a couple oil men from Dallas, and then I can't read it because I have a little slide over it and it's got Dave and Tom.
Speaker 2:It says and well, we're itching like a hound to give you something you want.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I don't know what that's from.
Speaker 1:Okay, now, this is AI, Dave. So this is something that was created by an AI, an artificial intelligence app, and they told it to say. They said David Miscavige, rainbow, and this is what it cranked out, and I have done this myself and there's a lot of very similar looking David Miscaviges. This is David Miscavige also. Is David Miscavige also from AI, from another app, I guess? And this is David Miscavige, valentine, and this is wish you were here and it's got Dave and Elrond and then it has a squirrel in between them and then there's a cartoon Xenu that's down around there in the middle between their waists. I'm not sure what. There's a lot going on in this and it's portrait and it's black and white and it's mixing animals with shoops, with cartoons. There's a lot going on in this one.
Speaker 1:Okay, now, this one is a. There's a movie called downsizing and there's a picture of a five foot one, five inch one, david Miscavige, and it says David Miscavige, we are meant for something bigger, downsizing. Now, that one is interesting. I guess I never saw the movie. Ok, this is also I think it's always sunny in philadelphia thing, and it's got david miscavige on the top and it says you see, I have just realized that I have two ears and he says so it's a waste to only listen to one thing. Let me get this straight you just realized that you have two ears. That's Mike asking him. Okay, that one's kind of funny. I like the top part. We don't need shoops of Mike, we need shoops of Dave.
Speaker 1:This is Mork and Mindy and it says Zinu is my homeboy and it has a picture of David Miscavigeige as mork. And this is from the 1970s television series mork and mindy. We're going way back, folks, way back into the 70s, the swinging 70s, to get the mork and mindy reference. Okay, this is I'm not sure, but I think this might be a dolly generated image of david miscavige the troll. That is very interesting. Um, this is um captain dave. What does it say at the bottom? Babe?
Speaker 2:captain davey arrives in disguise at the next ribbon yanking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so this is him going in disguise.
Speaker 2:I taught an SP.
Speaker 1:I taught an SP that's a suffering, succotash reference to Sylvester Stallone or Sylvester the Cat or whatever he calls himself. Sylvester Stallone is a whole different thing. Some.
Speaker 2:Sylvester Stallone or Sylvester the Cat or whatever he calls himself. Sylvester Stallone is a whole different thing.
Speaker 1:Some Sylvester Okay, now this is my third one. So Davy's Navy what was the other one I liked? Davy's Navy, Fantasy Religion and Dave G. Dave gets a shave. So this is a Photoshop of a Ron and he is got David Miscavige and a headlock and he's rubbing shaving cream on his face. Now this is amazing, um, so yes, this should be, um, this should be in those top three. So Shave, dave, davies, navy or Fantasy Religion those are your ones that you get to pick, and then we will announce the winners next week at the end of Top Ten Tuesday next week. And you're always a little lower than me for some reason.
Speaker 1:Okay, there we go. We've got to get a smile. You've got to look right in the camera so you can get a good thumbnail right there and smile like that, and then I can use that as a thumbnail. Okay, we've got one question. We've got a super chat, so I'm going to hit it. It says LKNich, do you think that they have access to the Aftermath Foundation, like personal information that people volunteer? No, they absolutely 100 don't have access to that, because not even everybody on the Aftermath has access to that. We kind of have things siloed a little bit that. So yeah, it's all good, it's all good intentionally so when a need arises.
Speaker 1:Those that need we're. We're very private about that stuff, you guys on a need-to-know basis.
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