Hey guys, welcome to the channel. We're here with Claire tonight. Yeah, let us know in the comments where you're coming in from tonight, where you're watching from tonight, and we want to just make sure everything's good here. We've got all of the video and the audio faculties working right. We're going to do, we're going to. We're going to talk about what's happened this week. We're going to show some bobble picks, we're going to do a Q&A.
Speaker 1:We may or may not have some special guests for the Q&A, Q and a. We may or may not have some special guests for the Q and a. And then, when the Q and a is done, we're going to go into the David Miscavige Scientology boss baby shoops. That's going to be at the very end of the video. That's the last thing we're going to do. But we've got some people from from Melbourne, Houston, Portland, Pennsylvania, Chicago, Northeast PA, Twin Cities, Tucson, Pennsylvania, Portland, Houston, Nashville, North Carolina, Phoenix, Ohio, Napa Valley, Huntington Beach, north of Seattle, Minnesota, London, Vermont. Oh, Marilyn, Now, Marilyn. Thank you for joining us, Marilyn. Marilyn is the one who made these.
Speaker 2:Prized possession in the Headley household.
Speaker 1:She took this picture from the South Park episode of Xenu and she crocheted this thing. Now she sent me one which I love and I have it right here on my desk. She also made one for Mike Rinder and she made one for Aaron and she was offering to make them for the SP shop or so we could sell them to raise money. Um, I think she's done enough for us. I don't mind if she makes more, but I think a great idea would be if people want them for their bobble heads, then Maryland should just offer them and then people can. We can put a link to her. Um, we could probably put a link to her. If she has a side or an Etsy side or something, we could put a link to that in the SP shop or on the channel and then, if you want one of those, we can send people to her to get them.
Speaker 1:I think that's fair. It probably. I can't imagine it's easy to make those things or it's very quick either. So I would feel much better if she wanted to sell them. She could sell them. It's just, logistically, we're trying to get away from us fulfilling everything. We're trying to farm out the fulfillment so that Claire's not just packing stuff all day long. She has a whole company to to manage and do and so, yeah, we're not in the, we're trying to get out of the business of of packaging and fulfilling stuff and driving to the post office all day. And then, yeah, somebody wants.
Speaker 2:I love doing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, If somebody wants them, then they can ask for them, and then Marilyn can answer you in the comments of where to get them. But yeah, we'll figure that out. But yeah, that's the idea.
Speaker 2:Hey, we got my Grinda in the house.
Speaker 1:Oh, nice, nice, yes, so, yeah, so if you've got questions that you want us to answer, we're going to go a little long tonight, guys, so buckle up buttercups. We've got a lot of questions we want to answer, we've got bobblehead picks and, yeah, there's so many things happening right now. There's all sorts of updates on the lawsuit that's happening in Tampa. If you want to know about all the additional filings and the back and forth on that case, or on the Valerie Haines case, aaron Smith-Levin over at Growing Up in Scientology, he's got videos on all that stuff and you can find out all about that. But there was another video I wanted to talk about, which Andrew Gold. On the edge with Andrew Gold, he did a video where he interviewed a current Scientologist. Did you see that, claire?
Speaker 2:No, I didn't hear about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he just I think it just came out today.
Speaker 2:Which current Scientologist? There's not many left.
Speaker 1:Well, it's a newbie girl who doesn't sound like she's been in Scientology that long.
Speaker 2:That makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what I was going to say. Not only is she saying like, oh, it's the same people, people that are complaining about Scientology, they're all ex-C org members and it's all the same people. And I was thinking when I was watching I was like, well, yeah, but it's all the same people. And I was thinking when I was watching I was like, well, yeah, but it's not the same people. Because in 2005 or 2006, it was just us, it was it wasn't a lot of XC org people that were making a big stink at that time, and there were people that came before us that had since stopped, and then Mike Rinder escaped and Marty Rathbun escaped and all these other people Jeff Hawkins, amy Scobie so there were more than just us.
Speaker 1:And then some of those people went off and did their own thing, and then more people escaped and so, and then Aaron showed up and, you know, mike started doing a TV show, and then Lawrence Wright and Alex Gibney and Louis Theroux and Anderson Cooper they're not ex-C org members. Lawrence Wright's not an ex-C org member, he's not even a Scientologist. So how is it from the same people? Anyway, do you wanna turn up your mic? Somebody's saying your mic's a little low.
Speaker 1:I know you know how to turn it up I think so I don't know, just hit those lights in the back until where the on the mic is, until they get more up the other way. No, no, you gotta. You gotta go. Um, maybe just leave it, or just. Oh, there you go. That was it, you're good. Oh, don't go too loud, oh, molly.
Speaker 2:I'm not checked out on this microphone, Mark.
Speaker 1:Oh, it sounds much better to me. Okay, I mean it's better to be a little loud. You can always push it away a little bit if it's too loud.
Speaker 2:Okay, give us feedback, folks, Sorry.
Speaker 1:Feedback is not the right thing to ask for when you're talking about audio.
Speaker 2:Am I louder now then how about?
Speaker 1:that, yes, that's perfect Anyway. So this gal, she doesn't know about Xenu, of course she doesn't.
Speaker 2:She doesn't have $500,000.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm also pretty sure that this was not sanctioned by OSA.
Speaker 2:Of course it wasn't.
Speaker 1:She's going rogue. Well, the other thing is that she that somebody says I'm very loud, yeah, I need a VU meter. Yeah, that's the thing with StreamYard it doesn't have any professional audio, it just says volume up or down or automatically set. Anyway, this gal that did this video with Andrew Gold, she's probably going to get in big trouble because she did a video on a YouTube channel that has SPs all over it, so they're going to stumble. If Scientologists watch this video, they're going to see our videos and then they're going to go like hey, so it's almost, it was comical that she did this.
Speaker 2:So I don't know, I kind of feel bad for her, but you know, at the very minimum she's a potential trouble source now.
Speaker 1:The potential is out the window. She's a definite trouble source.
Speaker 2:Definite trouble source. Yeah, and she's a total.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't watch the whole interview. I watched like the first few minutes of it.
Speaker 2:Oh, it was that good, huh.
Speaker 1:It was amazing, it was compelling. Well, I just was like, as soon as she was like, oh, it's the same people, I was like, oh yeah, no, no, sorry, sorry, sweetness, it's not the same people.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:She hasn't learned how to come for her, she's going to get in trouble. And then I mean, that's kind of how Tampa Brad went. He was like gung-ho, this, this, this, this. And then it was like no, this is not happening, so anyway.
Speaker 2:Oh, and somebody in the comments said that she said Scientology doesn't work for everyone. Big no, no yeah that's cool.
Speaker 1:She did say that, and she said that right off. She said you know, scientology doesn't work for everyone. I was like, oh, I was like, that is not the OSA script, this girl is off script.
Speaker 2:Renegade.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so anyway that, uh, so that happened. I don't know if aaron has done a video about it, or maybe he'll do a video about it tomorrow. I don't know about that, but uh, either way, um, she's gonna be in trouble, we'll see. I'm pretty sure she's not gonna be the um, the international spokesperson, or anything like that.
Speaker 2:Well, we can just throw it out there right now. Hey, when you're ready to be interviewed on SPTV about your whole experience, we are here for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Aftermath Foundation will be there when she needs, when OSA. Oh, when OSA comes for her and she decides this is not for me, that Scientology is not working for me either, we'll be there. But that was another thing I wanted to tell everybody. We've been getting a ton of messages If any of you didn't watch our videos, our SpyFile videos from last week and I think even the week before. For the past two weeks now, for the past two weeks Scientology past two weeks Scientology started out. They were harassing my companies and they've never done this before. Excuse me, they've never done this. In the 17 years that we've been exposing Scientology, they've never come after my companies or my business side of life. They've've been attacking me personally nonstop.
Speaker 2:And we should say that we know of.
Speaker 1:Yes, that we know of that's true, that I've been aware of, or that my clients have emailed me about.
Speaker 1:There was a few instances where we've had business relations and then somebody Googled me, or they Googled Claire and then they said, oh, we're sorry, we can't do business with you because we saw this website and it said all these horrible things and we resolved that. But that was that. There have been a few instances of that where that the personal attacks have resulted, have poured over into our business lives, have resulted, have poured over into our business lives. Okay, two weeks ago they started attacking my business clients by writing directly to my clients and essentially saying you shouldn't be associated with this guy and he has jobs or something that you've done for you on his website and we obviously you're going to have him take those down. We did get emails from some of my clients and they did tell us they got this letter, but none of them so far knock on wood, none of them have asked us to disassociate with them or take them off our website or anything like that.
Speaker 2:Again that we know of, but that's okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that we know of.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:We did now hear of them attacking Claire's clients. So now they're sending out notices and tweets and things to Claire's company and the clients that she has for her company and she has a completely different business than I have and so so that happened.
Speaker 2:They're going pretty harsh, I'll say has for her company and she has a completely different business than I have, and so um. So that happened, um, they're going pretty harsh.
Speaker 1:I'll say yeah, they're not no further comment. But you know what?
Speaker 2:yeah, so go ahead, document it all, osa, document your hate campaign yeah.
Speaker 1:So the thing I wanted to tell you guys is that usually when this happens, it means like these attacks from OSA. They cannot know new direction or no new actions can take place unless David Miscavige personally himself directs or authorizes these new attacks and these new tactics. These new attacks and these new tactics. So when David Miscavige is getting hot and bothered and more pressure and more activity is coming from OSA, it means that David Miscavige is acting more erratic and more irrational and usually he's angry and he's doing like Scientology boss baby tantrums. And when he does that, that's when Sea Org members escape. That's when Mike Rinder escaped, that's when I escaped. That's when a lot of people, when he starts tightening the screws on Sea Org members so much so that they're like I'm not dealing with this anymore that's when they escape. So did you get that, tom Pope one? I'm not dealing with this anymore? That's when they escape. So did you get that, tom Pope one?
Speaker 2:Perfect, thank you.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So this is a good thing. We I'm trying to say we're like nonsense sponges we soak up the nonsense for everybody and then we channel that into content, if we can. Uh, we have to silo some of it if it's nonsense, and we might have to be quiet about some things, in case that depending on what the lawyers tell me Um, and then we try to turn it in, we try to, we try to flip it. I think, uh, if we had Aaron on here, I could. It's like a jujitsu you take the energy from somebody and you redirect it, and you don't go up against it, you use that to turn it back. So that's what we're trying to do, guys. It's working. Whatever's happening right now, this is the first time in 17 years that they're doing what they've done, and uh, we are hitting a nerve something's going on, something's happening.
Speaker 2:They don't want us to happen, so thank you to everybody here because you are part of this and we appreciate your support and everything else, but we ain't stopping osa yeah go write that in your diary yeah, yeah, Osa's going to Osa.
Speaker 1:If you guys are watching Osa, we're here, we're still going. And the other thing is actually we'll wait until we might have some special guests. If we have our special guests show up, we'll go through that. But if you got questions, get them in there. Are you ready to do some bobble picks? Sure, let's do some bobble picks, folks.
Speaker 2:Let's do it.
Speaker 1:Let's get. We got. So this, this photo right here. This is the winner of last week. So this is a bobble render or Mike Jr, depending on what you like to call him. I like to call him bobble render. Mike Jr is good too. Or just Mike Render, bobblehead or bo like to call them bobble render. Mike jr is good too, or just mic render, bobblehead or bobble mike or bobble mike. But we got a picture. This is an e-meter, scientology e-meter those big metal things. Those are called cans. Those are the e-meter cans. Those are the things you put your hands around or more currently, electrodes, if you'd like to be yeah, that's kind of a weird definition for cans.
Speaker 2:those are obviously cans, yeah, I mean they were originally soup cans but now you know they can't call them soup cans, that's true, that's really tacky.
Speaker 1:When Scientology first came out with the e-meter which was originally made by a gentleman by the name of Volney Matheson, and Hubbard essentially stole his design, redid it, made us some slight little changes to it and then called it the Hubbard E-meter, but it was a Matheson.
Speaker 1:The first E-meters that Scientology used were by this guy named Volney Matheson. Anyway, they used to use like you would just go buy some beans from the supermarket and take the label off and wash them out, and then they had these little alligator clips and you would clip alligator clips to soup cans and that's how you audit it. Imagine this super, super high-tech, science-based religion that uses Chef Boyardee cans to give you spiritual counseling Maybe, maybe not and then they hook it up to this EasyBake oven and then that's supposed to tell you what your, how many body things you have left stuck to you. So this is the winner of last week's Bobble Picks. Thank you for the person that sent that. Claire is going to contact you and you are going to get a free SP bracelet or a signed Blown for Good book.
Speaker 2:Or, if you're watching right now, just shoot me an email so I don't have to dig through many, many hundreds of emails to find it. Sure I'd appreciate any help and support.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and if you want something else, let us know. But we've got all different sizes of SP bracelets on the spshopcom. She's obviously or he or she has already got a bobblehead, so they don't need one of those. Unless they want another one, we'll send you another one. Okay, so now we're going to show you some of the bobble picks that we got sent this week and, claire, you might help me out if I can't tell where they are, because I haven't been to all these places.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's all right, I got it.
Speaker 1:This. Is correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's Scientology Atlanta.
Speaker 2:You're winning honey, You're nailing it.
Speaker 1:This person took their book, their billion years book, and their Mike Rinder bobblehead and they took a picture in Atlanta and at the Scientology organization, which is great. That's awesome. Thank you for that.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And then we've got this one. Now I do recognize this one because I shot an interview with the local nine news TV station and that's Denver. That's right in front of Denver organization, which is across the street or around the block, around the corner from the, from the stadium, downtown Coors Field, and that looks like that's Zinu or no, zina the warrior princess.
Speaker 2:I thought it was Christy.
Speaker 1:No, that's Zena the warrior, princess.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay.
Speaker 1:And Xena is not, doesn't have any relationship to Xenu that I know of. She could be. They could be sister and brother, I don't know, but I don't think so. But and she's got a little cardboard sign there. Xenu is my homeboy. Maybe she was by the side of the off off ramp or something, or maybe she was downtown somewhere trying to uh hustle some bucks and that's what she had the little placard for. But she's hanging out with, uh, mike jr right in front of the denver org. That's pretty awesome. And then, um, let's see what else we got here. Uh, we've got this is uh a this is Auckland.
Speaker 1:This is Auckland yes, Okay.
Speaker 2:So this is they've got a poster. Oh yeah, he's right there, he's on the rocks.
Speaker 1:Yeah he's right there, yep.
Speaker 2:Oh wait a minute, we have a special guest. This is going to be a party. Now, who's that?
Speaker 1:Who's that that's growing up in Scientology? Aaron Smith-Levin. Aaron in the house. Aaron, just in time, we're just wrapping up the bobble picks and, yeah, hopefully we get some more people showing up here. But thank you for joining us, aaron, my pleasure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thanks for joining us, Aaron.
Speaker 1:We're on SPTV, we're slaying it today. Aaron's videos today have been watched. Just the videos he did today have been watched by more people than there are Scientologists worldwide. Okay.
Speaker 2:I believe it.
Speaker 1:Yes, and you mind if we keep goingaron. Yeah, go ahead. We don't have that many left of the bobble picks. After we do that, we're gonna start doing questions and uh, I wanted to talk. I was gonna ask you about did you see that video that uh andrew gold did with, uh that gal? Okay, we're gonna talk about that. Um, I've got some. I want to hear your your thoughts on it, because I feel sorry for that poor girl. I know Bad things are coming her way.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, the next pick is now. This is an AI, artificial intelligence generated bobble junior. So somebody told the AI to generate a mic bobble junior and this is what it came up with. So it's AI bobblehead. Wow, yep, um. And then this one is amazing so this is mike.
Speaker 1:This is he's going. He's just getting ready for his mardi gras parade and he's got his little mardi gras, uh, mobile with his little float thing he's dragging, and then he's, he's totally decked out for bead throwing and the whole deal for his Mardi Gras parade. And you can see him. There's a bobble head under that outfit there and that's awesome.
Speaker 1:And then we've got let's see here, okay this is one where John Sweeney is yelling at the boble Render. And just to be clear guys, Mike Sweeney was never yelling at Mike in those videos. Mike was standing there looking all gaunt and looked like he needed a few sandwiches, but he was yelling at Tommy Davis.
Speaker 2:And probably about two weeks of sleep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was yelling at the gentleman by the name of Tommy Davis who was at the time. I'm pretty sure at that time he was the international spokesperson for Scientology and John Sweeney. They had been winding up John Sweeney for weeks and weeks, and weeks with the sole intention of having him explode, and that's eventually what he did. And John Sweeney is a reporter, for that was a reporter for the BBC at the time. He's still a reporter. I'm just not sure if he he might work, do stories for the BBC, but I don't think he's employed by the BBC. I'm not sure. Oh, my goodness, who's?
Speaker 2:that All right. Who's that?
Speaker 1:Looks like we got mike rinder in the house. Yeah, just in time, just in time. I was just explaining to see my old buddy. Yeah, I was just. I was just explaining that that's john sweeney yelling at a bobblehead. But in the actual video where john sweeney yells, he was yelling at tommy davis, not at mike rinder. I did say that to be fair, mike, because I talked a little teeny bit of trash about you. I said mike rinder was standing in the room there looking like he needed a few sandwiches. He was looking pretty gaunt, and claire mentioned that you probably could have used about two weeks of sleep as well somebody in the comments just gave the perfect title to this um picture.
Speaker 2:Here it's. You weren't there, bobble mike?
Speaker 4:do you? Do you know what's so funny about this story, about what happened immediately after that? What, immediately after this explosion, we walked into like one of the next little things in the cchr life exhibition or death exhibition or whatever the fuck it's called?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Whatever, it's OK, we're, we're way into the video now, mike. So we can, we can, we can. We're 25 minutes in with the first F-bomb from you, so we're good, no black shirt today, no dark blue.
Speaker 4:Look at this. Oh, and you too, mark.
Speaker 1:But A no dark blue. Look at this. Oh, and you too, mark. But a ron showed up in sptv black, yes. Well, that's the standard issue for sptv.
Speaker 2:We, it's like uh, the rpf we get all black uniforms?
Speaker 4:yeah, in any of it. So we go into this next room and sweeney's sort of recovering his composure and he and he says to Tommy Davis well, tommy, like I want to know, I want an interview with David Miscavige. He'd been asking for this interview, asking, asking, asking and all of this. Oh, he's too busy. You wouldn't just ask the Pope for an interview? Well, john Sweeney actually would just ask the Pope for an interview, yes, and he's like, well, no, I'm afraid he's too busy. And well, how do you know he's too busy Because I talk to him every day.
Speaker 1:Oh yes.
Speaker 4:Tommy made this big blunder. He's like I talk to him every day. That night is the night that Tommy Davis took off to the Wynn Hotel in Las Vegas and hit out because he knew he was in deep, deep poop.
Speaker 1:To be clear, he blew the Sea Org right he blew. Tommy Davis blew the Sea Org and that is not the only time he blew the Sea Org Right.
Speaker 4:But but I just got to tell you. The rest of the funny story is yeah, sweeney then turns to me and he says well, mike, what do you say? Would would you, um, uh, arrange an interview with with me, with Mr Miscavige? And I said no, of course not. He said, well, why not? I said not. He said well, why not. I said, john, you're an asshole. And he cracked up. But more than that, his producer, sarah maul, who's also become a very close friend of mine, and the cameraman both cracked up nice everybody just started laughing.
Speaker 4:It was like a very, very, very funny moment, anyway, awesome.
Speaker 2:Sorry.
Speaker 1:It's all good.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's good.
Speaker 1:We have one of the last pictures we're going to just show here. This is not really a bobblehead pic, it's kind of a shoop, but I like it, it's fun. So this is oh wow. This is Mike using his bobblehead as like a talisman. Like be gone, evil Scientology things. I like that corduroy jacket.
Speaker 2:Yeah right.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure where they got that from, but and that big ring, Probably from some kind of 70s movie where there is a cross in his hand. He's like no vampires. And then I wanted to show this because did you guys get your, did you?
Speaker 2:guys get your little things, yet your crochets we mailed them the same day, so you should have them shortly, folks.
Speaker 1:Courtesy of Marilyn this is what we got. You can see it's what it looks like in the picture, but it has like a cape. Comes off in case he wants to have like his summer outfit, his summer outfit, his summer warrior do, and then it's easily so good.
Speaker 1:It's actually better in person even than yeah the picture does justice so tell me what you think. Aaron, I was uh, the, the, the, uh, the woman who made these her name is marilyn and she's crocheting these. She wanted to do a thing where she sends them to us and then we auction them. I think, uh, we have the ones we have. I think if we just tell if somebody wants, when we just send them to her Etsy store or something like that, if they want them, they could just get them from her, because I guarantee you it would take me about, uh, I think it'd take me about seven years to crochet that.
Speaker 2:Honey, really come on now. You're not going to be crocheting that, even in seven years Maybe.
Speaker 1:Let's be real. So I think we just have her do it and then I think that's all for the bobble picks that we have for today. So if you guys want to vote on those bobble picks, go down to the comments and tell us which bobble pick you like the best, and, yeah, we'll see which one's the winner next week. Okay, so, aaron, yeah, what's thoughts on this poor gal who did this? First of all, she seems like she's a newbie. She doesn't know much.
Speaker 1:Totally, I don't think this was, uh, osa sanctioned she says no scientologies doesn't work on everyone that to me that was like the first clue, like, oh, this dead giveaway this gal is not. Uh, this is she. She saw a video we did first of all. She watched it. She's watching andrew and she's watching sp's talk on youtube. That's a big. Well, she claims she's never seen any of our stuff so then, how would she know to contact andrew gold exactly?
Speaker 3:so like no she didn't fall down the scientology rabbit hole and just run into andrew yeah, also, um, mike.
Speaker 4:There's no way a non uh person who's not sanctioned by osa should be going on youtube being a spokesperson for scientologists no, especially not when that person has interviewed a, a ron, you and me yes, like this is just, and you know, tony, like everybody, tony otega, chris shott, I mean andrew gold, has run the gamut of the scientology sp world and she, I mean she's essentially she's leading people to find out more stuff from sps right, yeah because they're going to see her video.
Speaker 1:They're going to see the video. The next video that's going to end is is gonna be one of us talking about scientology, or I mean it's. It's a total wipeout. But so what do you think? What do you think? What do you think aaron?
Speaker 3:I okay. So, um, I I think her intentions were good, um, but when you watch the interview I'm sorry, I, I know I very quickly slid into the derogatory words she's dumb as rocks. Oh, my goodness, dumb as rocks.
Speaker 1:She took her makeup advice from frankenfurter oh my goodness, you guys are going hard. Oh my god, I was just like she seemed kind of new, not, uh. Hey, why don't you get a trowel to put that makeup on there? Sweetness.
Speaker 2:I just took one glimpse at it.
Speaker 4:I didn't even watch the whole thing, I just took one glimpse and I went oh Wow, but here's what I mean.
Speaker 3:Let's say, here's what I mean when I say she's dumb. Here's what I meant. Here's an example of why I would say that, If her goal was to put a friendly, smiley face on Scientology, Andrew asked her one question from apostate Alex. Hey, what do you have to say to a staff member like me who was locked in a room and, instead of going well, that was horrible and that was wrong she goes. Well, what did you do?
Speaker 1:Oh no, Come on Nice. What did you do? Like, not like? We shouldn't be locking people in rooms.
Speaker 2:That's horrible. I've never heard of that practice, none of that. Just what did you?
Speaker 3:do? What did you do? That was so out ethics that he had to keep you in the room.
Speaker 2:Obviously you deserve to be locked in a room. So let's ask the obvious question. And Andrew was like no, no.
Speaker 3:And Andrew actually said what would he have had to do to justify being locked in a room Right? Good question Anyway. So I'm saying that's what I mean. Even if her intention was to just blow, smoke up Andrew's butt and make it all, she failed at that.
Speaker 4:Well, she isn't obviously a complete newbie.
Speaker 3:Well, she's working on the basic books. Well, so she's been in Scientology for nine years and she's never done the student hat.
Speaker 2:And she's still working on the basic books.
Speaker 3:She's still working on the basics and she lives in Arkansas where there's not even a mission, so she's not even on lines at an actual org. Wow.
Speaker 4:Now, she did know enough Scientology to know what did you do?
Speaker 3:exactly that's what I mean. She's not a total newbie well, she really. No. She has done okay. So she sent andrew a picture of all of her certs. Every single one of her certs is the div six course yeah, that's what I was gonna say I was.
Speaker 1:I did the student hat when I was 12. This, yeah, I mean, that's the first. In order to do any real scientology that's got any meat on the bone, you have to do the protears, the student hat, the e-meter course. There's like a few courses you have to do just to get into the meat. So, anyway, I I think she's got a world of pain coming her way.
Speaker 3:Well, she thinks she's coming to Tampa to do the student hat in a few months and I think when she gets here she's going to have an ethics cycle to do. Where's she coming from? Arkansas.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she did an interview with.
Speaker 1:Andrew Gold in London? No yeah.
Speaker 4:They're not letting her be sent to Tampa, org. Well, they're not letting him in your flag, he'll be sent to Tampa Org.
Speaker 3:Well, that's where she said she's going. Is Tampa Org? Like she already was going.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's the closest state that has an org to Arkansas.
Speaker 4:No, nashville. I mean Nashville's much closer, atlanta's closer, so why doesn't she go there?
Speaker 1:Why don't we ask her I?
Speaker 4:think we should invite her onto our podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a great idea. Ask her if she believes in the multiple viewpoint system.
Speaker 1:What were you saying, Aaron? What did you say?
Speaker 3:I asked her a bunch of questions on the live stream on Super Chats that Andrew asked her.
Speaker 1:She de facto talked to an SP through Andrew.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but she claimed she had never heard of me before and had no idea who I was.
Speaker 2:And yet, she was on Andrew's channel. Come on now.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's not like.
Speaker 3:Andrew Gold has a purely Scientology channel either. So the idea that she found Andrew, found his channel, found his Scientology videos, but that's all she found is like come on now.
Speaker 2:In no world. Does that count as plausible deniability?
Speaker 1:I just texted you, claire, just look at that.
Speaker 3:I did ask her if she wanted to be interviewed by me, and she said well, what if I just wanted to be interviewed by you, andrew? And it's like, ok, ok, wow. But one thing that she said one thing that she admitted to that's going to get her in trouble is. Andrew asked her about Lisa McPherson. Yeah, and she said yes, that was probably a mistake. If you're going type three, if you're going type three, Scientology doesn't work on you and you should probably be sedated.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, yikes. Oh yeah, she's in for a world of pain. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that she's going to have to go through that, but this is real time how Scientology works, and essentially, she's another Tampa Brad, right, aaron? For the most part, yes, she's just the female version of Tampa Brad. She just wants. She wants to do right by Scientology and she has some stuff happening on the internet, so I'm going to go in there, I'm going to clean it up real quick and show all the new skills I learned on my courses, and then OSA is coming for her.
Speaker 1:The things that she said she gained by um joining scientology was she's a better driver I tell you, the ot powers almost always have to do with automobiles, always like 90 parking, finding a parking spot, not getting in an accident and, uh, getting somewhere without directions or gps and if she thinks she's a better driver in Arkansas, God forbid what happens when she gets to Florida. Oh well, I don't know about that.
Speaker 3:And that was just from the purification rundown, which is the only step of the bridge she's actually done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anyway, okay, so let's do. Oh yeah, I just got a text from Mike. Are you going to invite us to the live tonight? Yeah, I did when I sent you the text this afternoon.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, I missed that one.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's all good.
Speaker 4:And then I went back and I eventually found it, after sending you 17 texts saying what's going on, Like I'm sitting here like a dummy. What's happening?
Speaker 1:And then he just showed up. It was perfect.
Speaker 3:You know, and then he just showed up.
Speaker 3:You know you know it's all good, mr technology here it's all good, I'm the vhs man, but aaron, talk what happened? I have to tell you about the part of the interview where she explained how she got into scientology. This is actually what she said. Yeah, she had a dream and tom cruise came to her in her dream and took her by the hand and walked her into a garden pavilion and left her in the care of the Scientologist. And she woke up from the dream and decided to reach out to Scientology. I'm not kidding you, that's what she said. Wow, tom.
Speaker 3:Cruise came to her in her dreams. Now they won't let her within 100 miles of flag.
Speaker 1:Well, I was just going to tell you. In Scientology this is referred to as what's called Theti Weeti, and Theti Weeti is like I'm trying to think of what the regular, like Pollyanna.
Speaker 1:Pollyanna yeah, pollyanna, it's like everything's wonderful, there's flowers, let's go through the fields and wave through the wheat and nothing is bad and nothing ever happens, and somebody who's essentially unreal about what's happening. So she seems like she might be. I didn't watch the whole interview. After about 10 minutes I had some work to do, but as soon as I heard her say Scientology doesn't work on everybody, I was like, oh, you dumb messed up. You dumb messed up. Okay, let's, do you guys want to do some questions? Sure, okay, let me see. Oh, real quick, now that I have you guys here before we do the questions, and then, if you've got questions, get them in there guys, as soon as we start answering them. 645 is the cutoff. No more super chats, no more questions. But so I wanted to ask you guys about STAD the Scientologists Taking Action Against Discrimination, and they call themselves STAND Right Now, if anybody doesn't know, an acronym is when you take the first few letters of words and you make them into a word that says something.
Speaker 1:Scientology doesn't know how this works. It's weird because they have acronyms all over the place within Scientology, but on Twitter, for some reason, they don't understand this, so I fixed it. I want to show you guys real quick. This is going to release it here. So Twitter army of trolls for Scientology is T-W-A-T-S. Twats, and I think twats is actually the past tense of tweet. So this is what these guys are they're the Twitter army of trolls for scientology, or twats. So from now on, we're calling them twats. That's it, we're done.
Speaker 4:That's their name and that's it. And I know clan knows this, but is or twat in the UK, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa. You were saying twats.
Speaker 1:Mike Twats. Please, please, please. Proper nomenclature and pronunciation is very important. I don't know if I do. I have to bleep that.
Speaker 3:No, no, oh my God.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:It's an acronym honey. Well, it's twat If that's how it says right on the screen what it means.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I understand, but it's it's. It's how you say that A, that A can't go with. It's like an R, you can't go with the hard R, you got to go with A.
Speaker 4:That's my pronunciation, that's. That's all the problem, it's an Australian.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the that. Yeah, that's what we're going to call those guys. I just wanted to get that out of the way because it's been bugging me. This stat thing has been bugging me and I figured it out today when I was on Twitter. Okay, anyway, good job, mark. Yeah, I'm working for you Scientology Working for you, claire, have you, did you get any? Oh, yeah, she's got a lot.
Speaker 1:Okay, colonel Brock says Troy suffles, but it's King Keebler Shoup's night. Oh, this guy was saying I don't know if I can stay up late in the UK, and this Colonel Brock is like dude, it's King Keebler Shoup's night. What do you mean? You're going to sleep. It is King Keebler Shoup's night. We're going to do that after we get the questions. Anhada says I wonder if Mark will do my photo captions. Uh, anjata, we're doing yours, don't worry, you got some. She got some good ones, I think. Um, again from, uh, dolores. Thank you, dolores. Could DM's use of steroids explain his violence? Um, I don't know about steroids, but HGH. I don't know if HGH affects your mood or anything. Do you know anything about that? Aaron, you're in the gym, kind of that gym world.
Speaker 3:I mean, testosterone is what I generally associate with mood problems, but I just don't know if HGH does that.
Speaker 1:We'll have to look into that Was he taking HGH.
Speaker 2:Yep, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:But not testosterone.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:I don't know about the testosterone.
Speaker 2:Every Dr Schultz product in that field of performance?
Speaker 3:yes, but hold on. Was he taking HGH for fitness purposes?
Speaker 4:Or his growth deficiency.
Speaker 2:To be honest, I didn't ask him that question, but he ordered it in bulk.
Speaker 3:He must have been taking testosterone as well if he's taking HGH.
Speaker 2:Yeah, probably Probably.
Speaker 1:Okay, oh, another one from Dolores. Thank you for the super sticker, dolores. And then we've got oh, jzrjp97,. Totally would love to receive your bookmark. Yeah, we just hit 24,000 subscribers and Claire gave away a book. And're about almost halfway to 25. When we hit 25,000, claire. Every time we hit another thousand subscribers, claire picks a random person out of the comments around that time and just sends them a book. So put in the comments you want a book around. When we're hitting the milestones Pharma or PharmDMSPHD Uh, pharma or farm, dm, SP, hd. Hi guys, what's your best estimate on an average money for a new member to make it from purif to clear? I'm trying to fathom the insane actual cash to clear the world. Oh, that's another good point, that's a great point. Let me put this down because we can barely see mike with the uh. Um, what do you think, claire, didn't you on tony ortega's blog? Didn't you guys do like, uh, uh, the bridge to total freedom, and how much up the bridge?
Speaker 2:yeah, we did, going up the bridge and rough estimates yeah, so do you remember?
Speaker 1:it's like 50k to get from ballpark yep 50 to.
Speaker 4:I was going to say 50 to 100.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it depends on if you're the gal who's working on extension courses for nine years or if you're going to start paying for auditing you have to do. It really depends on each person. Everybody's different on how much auditing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it also depends. Plus, the question was too clear yeah, not nine years of books and lectures.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and nine years of books and lectures, yeah, and it also depends on how many podcasts you do with Andrew Gold. That's going to jack the price real big time. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's a couple of months of sec checking. Unfortunately they don't do FPRD anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's definitely, oh, they canceled FPRD anymore. But yeah, it's definitely, oh, they canceled FPRD on public. I didn't know that.
Speaker 4:Oh, there's no course to train FPRD auditors anymore, right, Aaron?
Speaker 3:Well, they did not re-release the FPRD course for Golden Age of Tech 2, and half the FPRD auditors had blown or been declared, and so they had to scrounge. Because you know, mark, there's no tech balls in any of the orgs. Wait a minute. They took them out, destroyed them, like the oecs like they burned.
Speaker 1:Oh no, they didn't. They did the same thing they did with the oecs mark to all the tech bills everywhere mike.
Speaker 3:Mike, I asked about the OECs and I was told the OECs weren't destroyed because the new ones aren't out yet. The reason the tech falls had to be destroyed is because they weren't the new golden age of tech. Auditor training packs were different than what's in the tech falls, so they had to get rid of the tech falls. There's nothing that's been released yet that conflicts with what's in the OECF UBC, but when the new courses come out, all the old stuff will be destroyed. So, mark, I'm sorry Mike, no, mark.
Speaker 1:We're both here.
Speaker 3:Pick me, you can just pick me. There's only one set of tech balls allowed in the senior CS office, and no call library, no academy, no, nothing. No tech balls allowed in the senior CS office and no qual library, no Academy, no, nothing, no tech balls.
Speaker 1:So Mike Rinder actually does have the most complete Scientology library in the world, cause he has all the X books, he has all the Hubbard books and he has courses and old versions, and he has. You don't have the really old oec volumes, do you? Or? Uh, no, not the not the ones before the last one.
Speaker 4:No, no, not the first. Kendall build ones.
Speaker 1:No yeah, okay, but those last ones, and weren't those released by dave?
Speaker 1:yes, and the red ones too yeah, so so I we were talking about I think you and I were talking about this, mike the things that he's saying are not on source, like key to life, life orientation course, the tech falls, the OEC volumes those are all things that he personally released. So he's telling them to destroy the things he made that he released everybody and when he released them, it was going to be like scientologists were going to start falling out of the sky into the orgs, like this was the missing link to planetary clearing.
Speaker 4:I mean, everything is the missing link.
Speaker 1:Yes, golden age of tech, golden age of admin, key to life. Life orientation course, this briefing course, so mark, let me.
Speaker 3:let me tell you like so I had been under the impression, because mike's made a reference a lot of times to the fact that there's no class six auditor course right now. And I kept saying oh, that's because golden age of tech too, and no one's finished the lineup yet. And I was wrong, because the tech vols are the course packs for the St Hill special briefing course and because there are no tech vols, that's why there's no briefing course. And here's what's crazy the golden age of tech came out 10 years ago and there's still no tech vols, and that isn't that something that has to be produced at the int base mike?
Speaker 1:oh, it has to be personally done by david muscat, but I know, but they don't have the facilities to create those well, I guess I know nowhere other than there. Yeah, they can't. That is something that the base, the int base, would have produced. Those things they're set up to do that.
Speaker 3:But, mark, how long would it have taken to just take the tech vols, fix whatever HCOBs are in the new course packs and at least re-release what you've got. So it wasn't this massive red flag that there's no tech vols in any org in the world, like it would have been so simple, right, yeah, and the explanation that I was given is cob says that you know every new release has to fund the next release. So the basics had to fund the accs, the accs had to fund the.
Speaker 1:You know, you know I forget what the sequence of the releases were, but but we can spend 30 million dollars on private investigators, but we don't have 180 bucks to put a book together. It's all digital now. It's so ridiculous. There's no costs, the base is there, the costs have already been realized. They're spending it every week, whether they do work or don't do work, and everything's digital. You send that to the printer. It's so ridiculous. I printed what book funded my book. I funded my book and release a book to fund the book. This is so nonsense. It's like the chicken and the egg and this is the kind of stuff that Scientologists believe. Oh, we got to do this so we can do this, and we've got to do this so we can do this. And then we've got to do this so that we can do this, and we have to get all the orgs to St Hill size so OT9 and 10 can come out. And now we have to do ideal orgs, so not OT9. No, just release OT9 and 10.
Speaker 3:What are you waiting for? Hey, can someone on the back end pull up a photo of the tech vols? Pull up a photo of the tech vols. Everyone in the chat is wondering what the heck we're talking about.
Speaker 1:Oh, good idea. Okay, I'm going to put up another question and then I'll grab that Cause I can do all that Let me share something. Oh yeah, do you have it you can share? Yeah, I'll let you share. Sharing is caring.
Speaker 4:Want me to turn my camera?
Speaker 1:around.
Speaker 1:No no, let's go, let's do questions, because we have 83 questions. You guys don't have to stay for all the questions, but I would like you guys to stay for the shoops, so let's try to get through these. Lknich Mark. Any thoughts yet on memberships? It will help. Yeah, I'm not sure I want to do the memberships because I don't have enough content. The memberships sort of imply that you're going to be able to give members something that you're not just giving everybody else, and I don't really have an, I'm not really putting out enough content to sort of delineate that right now. Let's look at this. Let's look at this picture that Mike's got here.
Speaker 4:There we go. This is Tech Bowl 13. And how many of them are there, mike? How many of them are there, mike? There's 13, plus the Index, plus the CS series, the Auditor Admin series, and one other one, so like 20. 15 or 16, I think. Okay, oh, look, there's the old man. Look, there's a big picture of L Ron Hubbard, because this is all perfectly L Ron Hubbard standard technology Table of contents.
Speaker 1:These are big yeah and L Ron Hubbard's Standard Technology.
Speaker 4:Table of Contents. These are big. Yeah, and L Ron, this is like 599 pages.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and let's say there's 15 of those guys and those are Aaron. Why don't you explain what those are? Because you're our technical representative. Well, those are the entire core of the information on how to deliver training and auditing. Oh, by the way, sorry, aaron, sorry to cut you off. I haven't told you or talking, spoken to you, um, since I watched your interview with lex friedman. It was amazing, dude you came off so good.
Speaker 1:And you, I will argue that you explained Scientology on a public platform better than any Scientologist has ever explained Scientology and the basics and the technology and dynamics and auditing. And I, mike, am I wrong? No, you're absolutely right, mark, there's never been a video where Scientology was so thoroughly explained from all aspects of it, and actually pretty fairly, if you want to be honest?
Speaker 2:That's what I was going to say. Incredibly fair that no Scientologist could argue with anything that you said.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I was surprised they all will but yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, of course.
Speaker 4:Theoretically they shouldn't. Yeah, I was surprised Behind closed doors.
Speaker 2:They would have no, no, like well, thank you. Yeah, it was, thank you, thank you okay tell, tell us about those.
Speaker 3:Well, go ahead, tell us about. Oh, I mean, those volumes are like. Those are the 18, that's like the bible of scientology, that is, how to deliver auditing and how to conduct, uh, how to run the course room where you train auditors is in those volumes Like, just literally, imagine going into a church and they're like we had to burn the Bibles because we found some errors in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was typos and parentheses that were in the wrong places.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they couldn't just put it in storage, they had to burn it Really.
Speaker 1:Destroy them, destroy.
Speaker 2:Shred.
Speaker 1:The other thing. I was going to use the same comparison. I was going to say if you went into a church and they said, you say, well, what's your kind of like, your playbook? Oh, we have this book called the Bible, but, like you know, we don't have any. We don't have anything right now. We're waiting. The mother church is going to send us something. It's been like nine years, but we're hoping we can get back to singing, singing songs and doing prayers sooner or later.
Speaker 2:They're on back order. You know COVID chain, supply chain issues we're all experiencing it.
Speaker 3:I mean whenever you think you've hit the limit of what Miscavige can convince Scientologists to believe. Then you find out there's been no tech vols for 10 years. What is going?
Speaker 4:on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's pretty crazy, the cognitive dissonance it's getting more and more, and that is why, people, if you're a Scientologist and you're watching this, the only thing that we don't have an affinity of is time. Get out, stop wasting your time. That's the one thing that I wish somebody would have told me was the sooner you leave, the sooner you're going to start living your life. The sooner you leave, the sooner you can have a family, or you can have kids, or you can sleep on a regular schedule or go to the movies when you want, or eat fettuccine, alfredo, whatever. You can start doing that tomorrow if you stop with all the nonsense. Ok, what were you going to say, claire? I heard you talk.
Speaker 2:I was just going to say someone brought up in the comments a very good point. What about all the plates in the CST volts of the tech volumes? They ain't going to be burning those.
Speaker 1:That's right. So that's another thing I used to always say when I first started exposing Scientology was every time David Miscavige walks back one of these releases, there's millions and millions of dollars worth of titanium capsules that have everything, everything that L Ron Hubbard ever wrote, every page of every tech volume, every course, every everything etched into stainless steel plates. And is it gold records, Mike? No, what are the records?
Speaker 4:The nickel-plated, gold-plated nickel, I think.
Speaker 1:Yes, for the records, the gold is the part that has the grooves in it right. Oh, by the way, not cds, not mp3s well, they have gold records.
Speaker 4:They have cds too. Now, okay, the records were the original because they had a hand crank record player. Yeah, like that could be, like in when the civilization has been burned down by the nuclear holocaust and the cavemen come and find the technology. Yeah, they'll be able to listen to the words of del ron hubbard by cranking up, even if there's no electricity because everybody yeah, because everybody's gonna get the things open, but but it's genius.
Speaker 1:That is a good question. If you're like a caveman, a post-apocalyptic caveman walking around, are you just going to be like, oh, you're just going to open up the vault, walk in. How are they getting into?
Speaker 4:this thing. Well, how are they going to open the titanium containers? Have you seen how those things are closed down?
Speaker 1:They're hermetically sealed. They have argon gas inside of them and they have this if there's like a fire suppression, they have a Van Halen system that comes on if there's a fire in there.
Speaker 2:I think my favorite was the hand crank lecture player. You know you would just go like this and it would play the Hubbard lectures.
Speaker 1:I'd be like think seriously what is going on I think it has solar too, like they have like a solar thing that goes out on top of it, because everyone knows, the more moving parts on things that are supposed to last along, the better okay let's get some.
Speaker 3:Any good, any good. Uh, hunter, gatherer civilization needs Friday night, source briefing night. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, they're going to be like they're going to just roll these off. They're going to just roll them through the desert in New Mexico. I went to that place in New Mexico with John Sweeney. We went in a car and it took us four hours driving through the middle of the desert and we got lost three times trying to get there and turned back and went back and all this nonsense and some crow magnet man are just gonna stumble upon it. Oh, my goodness, they're gonna be like wait.
Speaker 3:I didn't understand that word. Pause. I need to get the dictionary.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, ugg, ugg, clear your MUs, okay.
Speaker 4:There are dictionaries too. Yes, they have Webster's and the Oxford. Oh, they Oxford on stainless steel plates. Wow, that's.
Speaker 1:This is Scientologist. Your get your google foo on research, okay, uh, on. Hada says we don't talk about xenu scientology. The musical that's fun yep um denver, steve-o mark claire, not to be outdone by that rinder guy. But what do you think about writing personalized messages and purchases of Blown For Good? Your Claire Bears and Blowheads deserve some love. Oh my goodness, blowheads.
Speaker 2:Denver, steve-o, thank you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll see. I did give Mike an earful about that. I was like now people are asking me for inscriptions. Is this the one? Did you watch the Katie interview Thoughts? Is that the girl's?
Speaker 3:name is Katie yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, thank you, adon. Yeah, we just talked about that. Hello from Uruguay. Wow, look at that. Uruguay, uruguay, louisiana. I wonder if the? Oh, we got Elron from TGAC. Thank you for TGAC. People are calling for TGAC. Bad teeth, bad teeth up in TGAC. Okay, let's try to get some of these super chats. Oh, we've got a ton of super chats. Okay, mike Rinder. Hello from Palm Harbor. Thank you, that's very meta. Catherine S at Claire Would love to hear your thoughts on the Katie interview. Re-ot materials. Heard of Xenu. We'll see how I feel when I get there, etc.
Speaker 2:Yeah, You'd have to watch it. I'll watch the interview, but yeah, the fact that she's heard of Xenu and hasn't gotten there yet doesn't bode well for her.
Speaker 1:we'll just leave it at that you don't want to be talking about xenu in the church.
Speaker 1:They get really came down with the flute. Yeah well, they get really excited. If you say xenu in the org, people will literally run over and usher you off into a corner and say, what the hell man like not cool. Um, I'm trying to think uh, at the imp base did you ever hear this story, mike, about bts? At the imp base, no, um, there was a like a I don't know what you call it some kind of musician, and his name was bt. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3:aaron. Well, I know that brendan tie was a security guard at the AO and wasn't OT and so didn't know that BT was something you weren't allowed to say and people would call him by his initials hey BT. And the RTC rep was like what is going? On yes why are people talking?
Speaker 2:about BTs out in the open. The one I remember was a car pulled over at the base and it just happened that they had the license plate one heart beats, one heart, bt yes. So then the security guards read it as I love bts and they were freaking tracking that like they're like. Oh my god, there's an enemy parked on the street. It was a disaster. Nobody could leave the buildings for a while yeah, okay, here we go wasn't it?
Speaker 3:it wasn't it really about a korean pop band or something bts?
Speaker 1:well, that's another thing it was a nurse. One heart beats yeah, but bts is bts as well. It's just. It's just silly that they have words you can't say. Calico 26 says if david shelly did have kids, would it have turned into what happened to LRH and Nibs? Well, I don't know, I mean that could have gone any which way. But I mean just look, Tom Cruise had kids. That didn't work out too well and his kids ended up getting disconnected. Clara says hi, Mark and Claire. Thank you, Clara.
Speaker 2:Is that the Clara that I think it always asks it is yes, that's the one, and only Clara yes.
Speaker 1:Clara is helping us with some amazing merch for the SP shop which is coming soon. I keep saying that, but it is actually moving forward, brett Grace. Thank you, brett, I see you over on Mike's channel and Aaron's channel as well. The reason she got into Scientology is because she had a dream that Tom Cruise brought her into Scientology. Ha ha, I know that's so crazy. I didn't get to that far in the interview, but that is crazy. Oh, wow, we're getting all the updates started in 2014 in LA, moved to Arkansas and on Arkansas on basics. Thank you, catherine S. Among wolves. How did Miscavige treat Shelley in front of other Sea Org members? Did he protect her? What do you think, mike? Pretty much.
Speaker 4:I would say he, he, okay. I never saw him do something. That would be what he would meet out to the normal people. Yes, like me, or Claire, or you, mark, or whatever, I never saw him do that. I saw him diss her many, many times.
Speaker 1:I was going to say he was short, with her a lot.
Speaker 4:With things that you kind of went whoa, if you knew what it was that was being said, like maybe a lot of people didn't catch it, like some of the things were were kind of inside and you know, you kind of knew that that was not an, that was not something that Shelly just appreciated, that was said to her or the look that she was given. I'm not sure that everybody got it, but the people that knew her and Dave, well, certainly got it and Shelly certainly got it yeah, there was definitely times when he dressed her down a little bit or was like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1:you like let that get through, like that kind of thing, like what's what's wrong with you? But he didn't. He wasn't like screaming and cursing and yelling at them, right.
Speaker 3:Nobody would ever disrespect Shelly in front of Dave. I mean, Shelly was like number two.
Speaker 4:Yes, absolutely no, that's absolutely right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that yeah, exactly. You're right, aaron, that would never happen. He would, and you would never do that in a million years. I like this one just because.
Speaker 1:Barb Sylvie says it sounds like you're saying tech balls. Ps, I'm trying to get better at the super chat thing because I almost sent you $50 on accident. Thank you, barb, you don't have to send me $50 on accident. We're saying, to be clear, we're saying tech volumes and OEC volumes, which is the organization executive course. That's right, am I right? Yes, and in Scientology they call both of those vols instead of volumes. Everything's abbreviated. In Scientology, instead of saying the word volumes, you just say vols, o-e-c vols, tech vols. Gabriella Toth says without tech vols, how would they do cramming?
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, they wouldn't.
Speaker 1:It's so funny that ex-Scientologists are outraged that they're not do they don't have these volumes, but the current scientologists are like, yeah, dave said they were bad because there's like periods and commas and stuff missing.
Speaker 3:So like, how would you do false data stripping? Like, because the truth is, miss gavish basically said the new course packs are enough, kind of like what the first golden age of tech is that the drills are the reference. So, in other words, everything you ever need to know is already in the course packs and you're like, yeah, but you still have things like false data stripping and all sorts of shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's crazy. Okay, no more super chats, guys. I'm not answering anymore after this. I'm going through these. We're trying to rip through these mystic wolf. How long does it take to get somebody completely out of Scientology? How many people have you helped? What y'alls do is amazing. Thank you. It varies by person. It also depends on how long you were in, on how long it kind of takes to get you out, and also, I think Aaron or Mike you can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I think the more auditing and the higher auditing that you've gotten, the longer it kind of takes to strip that away. What do you think?
Speaker 3:I think it's totally case by case basis. I mean, I'm in touch with a guy right now. He and his wife are both OT7, and they're so done with Scientology. They're getting their friends out, they're getting their family members out. They don't need any coaxing, they're ready, they're like, and even though they've been on OT7 for a while, they've known it was bullshit for years. Yeah yeah, I don't know the rhyme or reason for why some people take longer and, honestly, I don't even know how you define being totally out of Scientology, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're right, it's very person-to-person based. Okay, let's start ripping through these. Rv at the Beach says been waiting for that. Stump jumper Katie. Yeah, yikes, gary Jackson Moorhead, I could tell you the name of the place where all that is shredded in Fontana, oh yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I've been to that shredding facility Jackson.
Speaker 1:It's like they have those machines that can eat a propane tank. Just gobble, done you? Just throw anything in there.
Speaker 4:Well, actually the shredding place is a place where you go dump an entire truckload into not only a machine but a vat full of acid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it just mulches it and it just turns it into pulp they. We used to have a shredder at the end base. I, you, I don't know if you had them where you were, Aaron, but at int we. You could put a phone book in this shredder. It just eat the whole thing in one go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there was something that made an awful mess. I can't. It was a shredder plus a trash compactor and there was this crazy it would create this dust. I never operated it.
Speaker 1:The base crew org operated that thing but did you have somebody yeah, did you have somebody who their cleaning station was to do the shredding and they'd come back and they just looked like they just snorted a mountain of cocaine just covered with white dust.
Speaker 2:They just rolled in a bag of flour.
Speaker 1:Nancy Griffin, thank you for the super chat. Jane Brown, thank you. Who audited or audits DM and where can we find those tapes? Wishful thinking? As far as I know, david Miscavige has not done auditing since night the early 1990s that I know of he yeah, he didn't get any auditing when I was there at the end.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and when he was getting auditing, they were not recording it oh, yeah, that's for sure.
Speaker 1:um obg foster. In 2008, I worked in a library system with 20 branches. Each branch got a huge box of books. What were they? I threw them out. Nice, those were the basics, and they sent those. They got Scientologists to pay for those, for individual libraries and Scientologists. Were you still in when they were doing that, aaron?
Speaker 3:When the basics were out so right at the tail, like I left just before it got crazy but I have a big admission here.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was sort of the source of the library campaign.
Speaker 1:To get Scientologists to pay and then send a copy to the libraries. So that they could then throw them in the garbage.
Speaker 4:When I was the LRH purse Bureau international, I'll run Hubbard personal public relations officer international. Yeah, my stat was Hubbard book sales. Wow, what Yep. That was the stat of the LRH purse. That's the statistic.
Speaker 4:What I was judged on, and one of the things was that Hubbard had made some comments somewhere about you know, you got to get my books into libraries so that people have access to them, and you know that this would be a great thing and it's something that Scientologists could work on and like some thing that I found somewhere and I went oh, that's a good idea. Not only that, I'll not just get books in the libraries, I'll get my stat up. That's what started the library donation campaign to get L Ron Hubbard books into every library in the world. Wow, yeah.
Speaker 1:So the one thing I found I've had a lot of librarians contact me regarding these boxes. Most of them got sent back or trashed. But do you know why? Because they do not follow this. No, no, even if libraries will almost take any books you send them If you sent my book to the library, they'd take it and they put a thing on it. It and they put a thing on it. The way that the um, the lectures and the different courses are packaged, they're, they're not. They don't follow the standard library format, so you can't index them and label the way they label everything, and if it doesn't follow that, they just throw it away because it's just a pain in their ass and they don't, and especially if they don't want it as well. But uh, there's a lot of people in here. I got a pause state Alex. Tech falls also weren't removed from London org. And then we got Catherine. Olson says there are tech falls in qual in the academy in Columbus.
Speaker 3:So not, not a pack, Not yeah there might be.
Speaker 1:There might be some places in the outskirts. They're like you know what we're keeping them. Who might be some places in the outskirts. They're like you know what we're keeping them?
Speaker 2:who's gonna?
Speaker 4:know, are they gonna come in?
Speaker 1:I pay good money for those. Yeah, apostate alex is in the house. Uh, yes, he is um. Does mike's library contain the cbr ot8? Oh, so that's a command. Nine through 15? So that's a command 139 through 15 materials.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's Captain Bill Robertson.
Speaker 1:Oh, the uninitiated. Did he write those? Yeah, he did.
Speaker 4:Yeah, excalibur, that's what he called it.
Speaker 1:So there's a Sea Org member who was executive director international. He was in charge of all the Orgs, right? No, what was?
Speaker 4:his post. He was the deputy Commodore on the Apollo captain, Bill Robertson. I was actually a captain the preceded David Miscavige and a real captain in the Sea Org. Him and Mary Sue Hubbard were the two captains in the Sea Org back in the day when Hubbard was around. Bill Robertson was a lunatic Like Bill Robertson was a crazy man who did crazy things and pulled off amazing accomplishments. Like when the oil crisis was happening. He was sent on a mission to Holland to go to Shell Oil and arrange for Scientology to be able to buy oil to fuel the Apollo and somehow the guy managed to pull it off. He was like this, this crazy guy who never thought anybody could stop him from doing anything. And I have an amazing story about Bill Robertson that I will tell you at some later date Cause it's too long. Nice, he's he, but he was. He went completely crazy in there, like before he left scientology.
Speaker 4:oh, he went crazy in scientology when he blew from the int base and he came to see me when I was in clear water, he what had gone completely off the deep end.
Speaker 1:Wow, jd jld is me said is your throat better?
Speaker 4:I assume she's talking about mike. Yes, it's doing much better. Thank you for asking. I used my connections to big pharma and I got some drugs and they actually work. They they were astonishing like 24 hours completely changed Awesome.
Speaker 1:Okay, we got the answer. Colette did it. She did the math we didn't do. At 50,000 times 5 billion, it would cost 250 trillion to clear the planet. There you go, I'm pretty sure, scientology is not getting that. That is a lot. That's more than I make in a week.
Speaker 2:That's more than Big Bomber is paying me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love all that you guys are doing to help people get out of cult. You're amazing. I have Mark's book on the way. I can't wait to read it. Thank you, nikki Ann. I appreciate it. Um, where is Tom Pope? The last I heard? So there was a gentleman by the name of Tom Pope that worked at the end base. Um, he actually was missing a finger because he had an accident and it chopped his finger off.
Speaker 2:I think he chopped it off at the end base yeah, and he actually was your brother-in-law for a bit too.
Speaker 1:Let's not that's true, he was married to my sister um stephanie pope. At the time, stephanie pope was your sister.
Speaker 3:Yes, do you know who stephanie pope is? So I knew tom pope when he was like the senior has flb she was the senior purse off flb holy shit yeah, she was the senior purse off flb the world just got a whole lot smaller.
Speaker 2:You didn't?
Speaker 1:know that aaron yeah she lives like four blocks from you in clearwater.
Speaker 3:Now your sister's got a super weird last name.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she married a French guy. So there was a, a facility called the Hockley Highlands. That was they bought in Canada and it was going to be the AO Canada, a new like base, a new, a new Sea Orc base in the middle of the woods, or it was going to be a Narconon or something, or something, or something.
Speaker 4:It was promoted as the advanced org for Canada.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Absolutely, and it was giant. It was like where's that place where the presidents go off to, and like a retreat, camp David. It was like Camp David in Canada and it was a whole resort like a, a golf course, and it was called the Hockney Highlands and her and this guy, this guy named what was his name Robert yep, robert and another he goes by Bob he goes by Bob, but Robert lentien and my sister and this other girl were all sent there to be like the caretakers and they started their.
Speaker 1:They joined the fire department the local fire department and they got trained on how to put out fires and fix air conditioners and clean and vacuum and do whatever just to keep the place nice so it wouldn't get rotten. And um, yeah, it got rotten, and there's actually videos video of people going through.
Speaker 1:You know these people who do like abandon, uh, castles and mansions and stuff. They went to this place and they go. Is that what that is? They go through the hope. That is the place that my sister works and they went through a bunch of her stuff and they blurred out her name and her, her husband. They got ended up. They were the only couple there and they just ended up getting married. You know how it is in the Sea Org. It's like, hey, you know, we ain't going to be doing anything unless we're doing something, so we might as well get married so we can get to doing something. And and they have a kid now and they live in Clearwater, right down the street from you, aaron.
Speaker 3:I need to get a T-shirt made just with a face of her picture on the T-shirt and I'll walk around Clearwater wearing it until somebody recognizes it. I'll be like, is this you? Have you seen this person?
Speaker 1:Anyway, tom Pope was married to her when she was at the base and Tom Pope, he got in trouble. Well, we were on the free wins. It was an event and Tom Pope and this other guy named Skeeter, cliff Thomas, they were out on the deck of the free wins laughing about something. They were smoking a cigarette chatting it up, laughing. Well, when Maiden Voyage is this week of events, that happens at the free wins.
Speaker 1:When that happens, david Miscavige turns this kind of conference room into his office and the green room you would kind of get ready or meet with before you go out on stage and it opens out. It has doors that open out to the deck. So he walked out of this conference room and saw this guy names I think it was Skeeter, no-transcript. They all got sent to the RPF because he was not in a good mood, and when Tom Pope went to the RPF, my sister ended up going to the RPF too for some other thing that happened in Florida, and so when she got off the RPF and went back to the base, tom Pope didn't and he never came back to the base and so they got divorced and then he married some other young girl in florida and um, is he any relation to wally pope? Not, mike? No, he does have another pope brother, but it's not the lawyer pope.
Speaker 1:No, okay, no, anyway. So tom pope is still in florida somewhere at the flag land base, as far as I know. Um, thank you for that. Uh, blowhards, blown hearts, claire bears or something else? Uh, claire bears works fine because claire people call claire bear. They already call her claire bear. So claire bears, I think, is great. Um, I'm not sure about the blowheads of the blowhards it said blown hearts, blown hearts, blowhardss blow hards, blow heads, blown heads.
Speaker 1:There's so many different ones that I'm not sure about, but the community is supposed to pick them, so they have to pick them. Dm taking HGH and testosterone and still the size of an eight-year-old girl. Thank you, mb826. That is ironic. The purist sounds totally hellish to me. Being pumped of niacin and sitting in a sauna for hours. How was it for you? Has anyone died doing it? Not that I've ever heard. Yeah, I've never heard of somebody dying doing it, but it is hell and it is horrible. It's not pleasant and you do have to drink a lot of oil and vinegar and vitamins nasty.
Speaker 2:I'm getting the smell of cow mag in my nose from just talking about this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they have a mix of the c, or in the scientology it's called calcium and magnesium. They mix those two together with apple cider vinegar and then they pour apple cider vinegar in it.
Speaker 1:It is yucky. Um okay, uh, jd jld is me. Must katie loman pay for sec checks if she has zero dollars? Yeah, it doesn't matter if you have money or not. If you go on the internet and say scientology doesn't work on everybody, uh, you're gonna, you're, you're having problems. Uh, denver Stevo says member only chats. Yeah, that's not a bad idea, but I have this really bad taste in my mouth about disconnecting people from the chat. It's not the thing. You can't really say we don't like disconnection and be like no, you can't chat. Um, aaron, any updates on the credit card fraud stuff? Updates? How like? Uh, where are the updates?
Speaker 3:give us the updates huge update just today on the credit card fraud stuff. There you go. Now we're cooking, so you guys remember, um, okay, uh, so ty webb and jason hemp hill were the ICs of PAC for a while and then, after like 18 months or something, they were moved off of that post. Other people were put on those posts and they were created. They were made the ICs of the whole just ideal org projects. They were basically supposed to do what Angie Blankenship failed to do. Okay, now, as part of this, they were running the ideal org missions and that is how that is part of how the financial credit card fraud got exported to new Ideal Orgs through the missionaries that were in the orgs for the Ideal Org missions. Josh Nicholson was the Mission IC Pasadena org and as the Mission IC he's the one who trained the regs at Pasadena, oregon, how to do the credit card fraud. Then Josh Nicholson got busted. He ended up getting sent to Miami.
Speaker 3:A Scientology public oh, I got his name somewhere, I'll do a video about it later A Scientology public used Scientology's credit card fraud system but used it to do real estate investing. He wrapped up 20, like. He had Scientologists in LA sign contracts agreeing to let him use their credit cards. He used over $4 million of credit cards to do real estate investing projects. That all went south. About 20 LA-based Scientologists all had to declare bankruptcy because of this dude, and Josh Nicholson was booted out of the Sea Org and now sells real estate in Las Vegas. So there's the update, wow that's crazy.
Speaker 1:That's quite the update, Ron. Hey, Ron, he says I know Jeffrey Augustine and Karen De La Carriere have done amazing work exposing the cult for a long time, but I've never heard Jeffrey talk about his story. Was he in? Did he have to escape? Thanks, I. You know I don't want to speak for Jeff, but I don't think he was ever really a Scientologist.
Speaker 3:Jeff did Scientology in the independent field but he was never. He was never like on lines at a Scientology org.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there you go. Sarge Outdoors says I'm writing my own fantasy. Would world setting religion magic for a D&D campaign? Oh, are you going to be a dungeon master? Will you join my cult if I make it real and start a church?
Speaker 1:LOL that would be a great idea for D&D, though. You could have SPs and you could have like what are those things in harry potter that steal the stole the souls, the? Uh, necromancers, or whatever they're called? Obg foster says sorry, mike, I don't know what that was in reference to, I think I think that was the library campaign. Yes, oh yes, sorry, hello from harrisburg. Thank you, harrisburg. Uh, we're right, we're ripping through him. Uh, harrisburg, thank you, harrisburg. Uh, we're right, we're ripping through him uh ying's is pittsburgh talk.
Speaker 1:Go steelers, uh nb gstv. I think there is. This is their new line. My lift driver recommended that I visit that wonderful museum in hollywood boulevard cchr, and added that side critics are just a handful of disgruntled ex-believers clearly that was a staff member trying to moonlight to make enough yes, exactly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was probably an auditor.
Speaker 1:Yeah if you do end up doing something, make sure you tell them that I was the one who brought you there. Yeah, her. Her responses to my question, apostate Alex. Her responses to my question was textbook Scientologist. Yes, thank you, apostate Alex. Agreed. Maxwell Edison's mom closest org to Arkansas is Dallas. I like I live in Arkansas. I can find her and talk some sense into her. Thank you, maxwell Edison's mom. The scrapbooker loving the party of your four. All you guys need now is Leah. Yeah, we're gonna have to. We're gonna have to get our stuff together before we get the glam squad in here. Annette232, can you all pretend to be bobbleheads for a short? Yeah, we can do that. Just go, just feel like that. Guys. There you go, there you go. That guys, there you go, there you go. That should be enough, thank you. Thank you, annette.
Speaker 4:You really got your two bucks worth out of that one. The end of this life stream.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Catherine S. She also said that she sometimes feels nauseous in session, but feels great the next morning.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, this poor girl Pat responds to that what turns it on will turn it off. Just keep going.
Speaker 1:Yeah, John says.
Speaker 3:She said but when I go home and I take a hot bath, when I wake up the next morning I feel great.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, she's got to jacuzzi the body things out of her. Catherine Olsen says. John says I think that's Catherine's boyfriend. John says I think that's Catherine's boyfriend. John says that's why I didn't learn how to drive, because I never made it to OT, oh boy.
Speaker 1:That's not why, catherine, but that's okay. Yeah, melissa Rib says she's going to Tampa for PTSSP course. Ha, ha, ha ha. Oh, she's definitely doing the PTSSP course. Abel S says I look forward to that lady's horror story in 12 months. We'll hear about it. We will hear about it at some point. Oh, it was my pleasure, thank you, you're all awesome and I'm really enjoying the debut of SPTV. Thank you, marilyn. I love those crochet things. I don't even know how she thought of that. It's brilliant. Yep, lydia Van Stretchclaw who gets the best name award. I thought she said she had made a great sales pitch. She really didn't. And you guys are kind Sol solos ugh, sol Solipolistic. Solipolistic didn't even begin to cover. I don't know what that word is.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, solipsistic. I've never heard that word before Me. Neither We'll have to look it up. Is that a?
Speaker 3:fancy word for dumb as rocks yeah.
Speaker 1:What's in it for you, claire. Listen to what was going on before your TED Talk. I was in tears that a mother would allow their sweet child to go through what you sweet thing went through. You are amazing. Then mike's audiobook had me. Yes, if you, uh, claire, did a um interview.
Speaker 2:I think it's. Is it scientology's uh stories number two? I think it's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, number two or number three yeah, if you, if you guys want to look it up on our channel.
Speaker 2:Thank, you for watching.
Speaker 1:I appreciate it yes, thank you, um, glad you're all there. Aftermath is now on hulu basic. Oh, good, great, that's.
Speaker 4:Thank you, melissa, thank you for letting us know good news.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that all free I think so yeah, well, it's not free no, but I think it's like the four dollar, five dollars a month it's the lowest subscription lowest subscription.
Speaker 4:I wonder if all three seasons are there.
Speaker 1:Yeah we got to check that out. Yeah, I will. Erica Bickers, thank you for the super sticker.
Speaker 2:Solipsistic means selfish or self-centered.
Speaker 1:Oh, there you go. Thank you. Yay, the SPTV crew. Yay. Thank you, andrea Douglas Miller. Shoop shoops are working me. Thinks Shoop shoops are working me. Thinks Shoop shoops are working me. Thinks or just bagging. Oh, the king of B of blue meanies. Yeah, I think it's a combination. I think all of us being on YouTube and the spy files, the spy files. The more I go through these spy files, the more I think it's about the spy files, because some of these documents are pretty juicy and there's a lot happening. Matheson actually came to the base. Volney Matheson.
Speaker 4:Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. Wow, he must have been really old by then.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because, yeah, that's crazy. Keep up the good work. Sptv from Corpus Christi. Thank you, nba 26. Thank you, Robert King. Does OSIN genuinely believe in the tech or are they just worried about exposing their scam of a business for what it really is? Robert King, what do you think? Mike?
Speaker 2:It varies on a person by person.
Speaker 4:Yeah again. But generally Sea Org members believe in what they're doing, they believe in the tech, they believe in Miscavige, they believe in Hubbard. They may be deluded but they believe it. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1:Jen Sissick. Good evening. Mark and Claire Ordered your book and in minutes I get a shipping notification Speedy, thank you. Yeah, xc org members are. Are her anything but they are fast. We work, we're workers speed of particle flow alone determines power that's a scientology nonsense saying claire book, claire book, claire book, claire book. Barbara sylvie from spokane, washington, you get the picture. I think she wants you to write a book Claire.
Speaker 2:I'm working on it.
Speaker 1:That's what I take away from that. Okay, let's see here, let's get. I gotta get it. I was. I don't like Aaron bugs me when he just sits there we don't give him. Keep him busy with questions. I like to see those pearly whites of him when he talks. Fifi Tinkerbell super sticker. That's not for Aaron. Mark, you didn't even notice my blue shirt. What it's dark blue.
Speaker 2:What it's blue.
Speaker 1:It looks black.
Speaker 2:It looks black.
Speaker 1:Aaron, I did, I did. Rachel McCool Helton says how did the LA riots of 1992 affect Scientology? Were you down in LA when that happened at the Life Exhibition, mike, or were you back at the base?
Speaker 4:No, I was at the base but I know they boarded the whole place up. Everything got boarded up and they had cordons of Sea Org members around the buildings.
Speaker 1:Yes, and we did the same thing at the base. So we all had to be on watch. If you were a male Sea Org member at the base and you were in Golden Arrow Productions, we had to be able to see the next guy all the way around the entire perimeter of the property. There was an entire human chain of people at the Int Base of 500 acres. You had to have the other person, you had to at least be able to see them. Even though we didn't have radiosios, we didn't have any way to communicate with each other and we had to stand out there all day and all night. And in order to leave the chain, you had to be replaced by somebody, and some of us were out there for days and we couldn't go anywhere because we weren't being replaced, because there was only so many crew and they did this.
Speaker 4:This was to protect us from the, from the writers, the looters and pillagers in south central la. Yes, yes, no, 90 miles away, coming and and picking out this property in the middle of nowhere yeah, and they did try and overtake it.
Speaker 1:They did the same thing in pack and they did the same thing at the hgb, the hollywood guarantee building. They stood around the buildings and protected them with their bodies and in la they boarded everything up as well. And also we did something very similar, I want to say, in y2k or there was some other thing, where everybody thought it was going to be riots at the end of 1999. Yeah, there was a similar thing that happened. Then Jackson I think Jackson was gone by then by Y2K, but yeah, there's all kinds of crazy Scientology stories like that. I just watched my Scientology movie on Hulu again this weekend. Where did Louis and Marty find someone so spot on to play Mark? They didn't play me. I was me in the movie you maniac. Thank you, denver Stevo. I think Denver Stevo lives down the street from me. Brett Grace, scientology can't compete with this YouTube hype because even they have had active Scientologists making YouTube videos, they wouldn't be able to have open dialogue with their viewers like you guys do. That's exactly true, brett, right, exactly, aaron. That's spot on.
Speaker 3:They wouldn't be able to open up the comments and do an Ask Me Anything, and all that. Yeah, one, xinu is my homeboy and the channel shut down yeah, I mean tampa brad had to turn off comments on all of his youtube videos.
Speaker 1:He did oh yeah, oh see, that's like you know, like your mom's house. You watch your mom's house, right, aaron?
Speaker 3:um. I watch clips okay.
Speaker 1:Well, there's a youtube channel called your mom's house with uh two comed, tom Segura and Christina P, and every once in a while they'll watch somebody's video and their viewers will go to that person's Instagram or they'll go to that person's YouTube channel, like they have. What's that country singer guy, trisha Yearwood, and what's her husband's name?
Speaker 3:Is it Morgan?
Speaker 1:Not Morgan, no, garth Brooks. Oh, trisha, yearwood. Uh, and the. What's her husband's name? Is it morgan? Not morgan, no, the, uh, garth brooks. Oh, they send people to garth brooks uh channel and they just ask him about weird things that he doesn't want to have to answer anyway. Uh, sick lid, not a member, but take my money please. Okay, cool, thank you appreciate it. Uh, pamelaford, I just finished watching On the Edge interview. Oh my God, yes, omg.
Speaker 3:By the way, Andrew Gold's about to hit 100,000 subs. He's playing the LRH birthday game for blood. He is.
Speaker 1:And he's using all of us to do it. Shannon Stam says what is something funny that you admitted to in order to get the needle to float?
Speaker 3:Oh, everybody's got to answer this one, but you don't admit to things to get your needle to flow. You think happy thoughts in order to get your needle to float True.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would just think of this Depeche Mode concert that I was front row center for and that still works for me to this day. If I just sing one of those songs, I have a euphoric kind of floating needle good feeling so, guys, let's have a quick little you know, 30 second powwow about this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, one of the things I said on Lex that I knew was going to get me into trouble in some areas was that I don't know everything that affects the movement of the needle. But I know it's not just hand sweat and hand squeezes and I don't. I just want to get your thoughts on that. Know, it's not just hand sweat and hand squeezes, and I don't. I just want to get your thoughts on that, because it's possible that everyone knows that breathing can get you a nice FN. But but why is it that thinking happy thoughts tends to make the needle smoothly go back and forth? Any ideas?
Speaker 1:I think it's when you're in that state, you're relaxed.
Speaker 2:I think it has to do with whatever the. I mean there's some kind of electrical current and resistance and the lack thereof. Do I think that it means the meter can make you tell your darkest secrets? Absolutely not, but there is. I don't know how it works, but there is.
Speaker 4:I agree that it's not just physical why do you say it's not just physical? Yeah, and so do I, but I I do too, and I wrote about it in my book trying to explain what my thoughts about this are. But that movie by tom shadiac, I am, is really interesting because he he's going around the world trying to find the answers to life and he comes, he meets these quantum physicists and they are measuring emotion in yogurt and it's fascinating and I believe that emotion does have an impact on whatever the resistance of your body. I do because I think that you can feel and sense emotions from someone. If you walk into a room and there is someone who is really upset or really angry, you don't necessarily have to see them or even have a conversation with them to to get the idea or feeling that they are upset or angry and that is some, some wavelength of something or other that is in the universe. And I believe I.
Speaker 4:What I don't think, like Claire, is that the e-meter can tell you what that is or identify things and how about even said that origin many times. Oh, all you know when the meter reads is that the meter red. You don't know what it's reading on. But then he goes on and says well, yeah, but if it's a theta bop, it means the person's trying to leave, and if it's an RS, it means they've got to leave. And if it's an RS, it means they've got evil purposes, and if it's a this, it means that, and if it so it's all fucked up.
Speaker 2:But yeah my last comment is if you look at how, um, how, like the stress test, that's to me the perfect example. You pinch some, you get somebody on the, on the electrodes, on the cans, and you pinch them really hard and then you tell them to recall the moment of that pinch and you will see the needle dip, no matter what. You pinch them really hard and then they'll think that Does that mean that the e-meter does everything that they say that it will do? Absolutely not. But there is some reaction there other than just purely physical, or emotion, or your body moving around, or your sweat or whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, the one thing that Lex did say in response to what I said he goes if there wasn't some correlation to thought, even if it's thought impacting something in the body, then the process would be so incredibly inefficient it would never work for anyone.
Speaker 1:Right, yes, anyone Right? Yeah, yes, yeah, okay, I think we answered that. Okay, melanie says how about Headley and the blowfish? Or just blowfish, headley and the blowfish? Oh my goodness, this has gotten out of control. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to on andrew, because he started this whole. Non, there was not a word of this until he did it.
Speaker 1:Uh, brett, grace, do you guys sleep well? Now I hope you sleep like babies after all the sleep deprivation you guys have experienced. Long live sp tv. Thank you, brett. Brett was like really coming up uh, on some super chats tonight. Um, well, you guys, do you guys ever I do not sleep well?
Speaker 1:I was going to say I, when I fall asleep, I can sleep for like five hours. When I fall asleep, I have a problem falling to sleep because my I'm just going a million miles an hour. So some, I mean I've, I've tried a lot of things and I've gotten to a point now where I think I've got I've know exactly what I got to do to kind of get my five, six hours, but like, if I fall asleep at eight o'clock I wake up at, you know, not five o'clock, if I go to sleep at like eight o'clock, I'll wake up at 2 am and that's it. I'm awake. I can't go back to sleep after that, but I used to have nightmares. That's why I really couldn't sleep is because I would have a nightmare if I did go to sleep. But I haven't had a lot of nightmares lately.
Speaker 3:Last week I had a dream that I was back in the Sea Org and I got promoted to warrant officer Such a. I was so happy to finally get promoted to not midshipman warrant officer. What was your rank when you were in PO3. I was nothing.
Speaker 2:I was a warrant officer at one point.
Speaker 1:I was a CPO.
Speaker 2:Chief Petty Officer.
Speaker 4:Chief Petty Officer. I was Lieutenant, junior Grade.
Speaker 1:Oh, Mike had gold bars in the hole.
Speaker 3:Like your real rank.
Speaker 4:Yeah, my real rank was Lieutenant.
Speaker 1:Oh, not a status rank. My status rank was oh, not a suit, not a status rank.
Speaker 4:Like my status rank was commanda my. My actual rank was lieutenant jg. Wow, I was cpo.
Speaker 1:I was a big fucking deal, man I was a chief petty officer for years and years and years. I got promoted to midshipman at seahawk day and then a month later I got comm ed and I got made back into a.
Speaker 3:CPO. I didn't even get any bars.
Speaker 1:Like I didn't even take the patches off, that I had my CPO patches off and I was already a CPO again.
Speaker 3:Heather was a midshipman. Heather was an officer. I put in for promotion every single year and I got denied every single year. Those sons of bitches.
Speaker 1:That's the way it was at the base for years and years and years. We didn't even have Sea Org Day and we didn't even have any ranks or ratings or promotion ceremonies, because everyone was in lowered conditions. Thank you for that. Whoever said that? I don't even know how we got onto that, andre. Thanks for the content. Does little Davey actually believe denying being served will really work or just a delay tactic? I'm pretty sure Mike covered this as it is in the video you did last night with Aaron. You talked about this as a delay tactic and you even said what the next delay is Right. So if anybody, go to Mike's channel or go to Aaron's channel, watch the Mondays with Mark and Mike that they did last night without me.
Speaker 3:And that you'll find out with Mike and Aaron and without Mark Mondays without Mark, I should go back and retell it just Mondays without Mark.
Speaker 4:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Uh, Claire. Oh, here's one for Claire. Claire, when you first read OT three wall of fire, Zinu, what were your initial thoughts? Did you believe it or were you like? What the heck is this?
Speaker 2:The latter. Yeah, I mean, we've told the story about how the only reason I got on the OT levels anyway is because I had to for my job and I was just like wow, that's it, Okay, move along.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, this is a good one. I need my SPTV. I need that's like I need my SPTV. Somebody get that going. Mark, I want to ask what the original song you used for your info? I loved it. You guys rock. The song that I'm using for my intro is from Jeff Levin. Jeff Levin made the intro, the outro, and if you go to the podcast, we actually have these little. When the ad plays. On the podcast there's a little thing of music. But yeah, jeff Levin is my go-to guy for anything I need for my music and he has a film coming out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he has a film coming out and I love that. We just learned last week or so that from Jefferson Hawkins. I love that we just learned last week or so that from Jeff Jefferson.
Speaker 1:Hawkins that he did the music for the Dianetics. Yeah, jeff did the the music for the Dianetics commercials. Okay, we got to rip through these guys Cause we got to get to bobble heads from gold.
Speaker 4:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:We haven't even. Oh, it actually has made me more compassionate. 10 minutes later, around the LA org there's a lot of homeless people. It's kind of gross. Oh from Gold Interview. Oh, from the Gold Interview. Yeah, it is horrible. The homeless situation in Los Angeles is out of control. It's ridiculous that Karen Bass I hope she's got some plan because it's at an all-time high. It's the worst I've ever seen it. Uh, beau beats, you have 30 seconds with hypnotized dm. What do you say? Stop?
Speaker 4:hurting people act like a chicken, yeah, um let's shelly go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there we go um m McDuff125, getting ready to donate to the Aftermath Foundation. You need a more recent photo. Mark Cheers to the three amigos Even rewatched the movie in your honor, Nice. You need a more recent photo.
Speaker 3:On the Aftermath Foundation website.
Speaker 1:Oh, I didn't even know there was a photo on there.
Speaker 2:Okay, nice face, aaron, sorry.
Speaker 1:Penko, I'm already laughing. Buckle up buttercup. Uh, there you go, um, robert king, what would they do if shelly m needed to go to the hospital? Worse, if she um unalived at the diet? Uh, there'd be a funeral. Uh, they're not really big on funerals, but they would take her to the hospital. She needs to go to the hospital. Yeah, um, they're not really big on funerals, but they would take her to the hospital. She needs to go to the hospital. Having her have a problem like that would be even worse. They need her to keep breathing. Barb, sylvie, if you need somebody to run the SP shop, I'm your girl. I'm really good at technology in session. I'm retired and can package and send things whenever you want me to. We're good. We're just trying not for Claire to do it. Hello from Germany. Happy to catch you two live. Seeing Mark excited about the DM records last week was worth more than any money. Thank you, stephanie. Oh my God, stephanie.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:That was the best ever. Yes, stephanie sent me some German Depeche Mode original records, printed records. Ruth W, I missed most of the TV in the 80s, 90s and 2000s. I have all of you set on reminders. I can't tell you what you all do for me. Well, thank you, ruth. I appreciate it. Andrea, super sticker, thank you. Oh yeah, now we're doing it. Now we're on it. Matrix tech solutions oh thank you, fifi tinkerbell.
Speaker 1:thank you bison 5360. Thank you, ron. Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Yes, that is true, and I think Lex mentioned that a few times in his interview that Aaron did with him. Jld is me. Andrew Gold said there are good things in COS and all cults. It made me want to scream. Even Comcourse is an indoctrination. Yeah, that's true. I mean, I agree there is some cheese. There's got to be some cheese in the trap. So a lot of that stuff Hubbard did lift from other things, ron Miscavige did Ron Miscavige Sr ever go through any of that stuff with you, mike? Oh yeah.
Speaker 4:He spent years researching the communication cycle. You know scientology. Yeah, german version yes etc.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I went through a lot of that with ron miscavige senior, spent a lot of time identifying individual little nuggets of scientology and where l run hubbard had lifted him from and the actual book that we're assuming hubbard read that he got that and stole that from. Yeah, ok, we're on the last, we're on the last ones here. Catherine S, I'm just imagining the eval that finds DM and his tantrums as the why. Obviously it's it'd be accurate Eloy for Scientology declines, so blows, et cetera. Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong, mike, but when you did an evaluation at the base, like they have this thing in Scientology, where you're supposed to look at all of the information and come up with the why of why things are a certain way, why they're non-optimum, and then you have to write a program and a plan on how you're going to fix that.
Speaker 1:And you have to come up with a who and you have to come up with a who as, and you have to come up with a who and you'd see those evaluators when those evals are coming out, you're like, oh, let's see what this one's gonna say. And they would.
Speaker 3:It's very, you have to tiptoe, you have to be very in seahawk, politically correct, because it's dave, he's the who, he's the why, he's the everything I was interviewing janice gilliam grady uh, here, I haven't published it yet when she was in town and she was telling me I I want to say the story was about her husband paul. Yeah, um, but, and one of the things that got him busted was he was on some mission at the Flagland base and he named Miscavige as the yeah, yes, paul was not a Miscavige fan.
Speaker 1:No, he was not. He was very a big fan of L Ron Hubbard, not a fan of Miscavige at all. Ellen Ramach. For those not in the Sea Org, is it harder for them to realize they're in a cult. Are the cult like aspects evident for them as well?
Speaker 1:oh, absolutely but yeah, probably harder the cognitive dissonance is you're not out in the world so you're not seeing that the orgs are all empty, unless you're in one if you're a Sea Org member in one of those orgs. But I would always wonder about that at the events, when c-org members would go to the events and we would say like, oh, this org did this and this org did that, you think like, do they, do they know this is not happening and this is like I know I've heard tons. We would get knowledge reports in from the orgs mike all the time when an event would happen and we'd say, and 27,000 people went into the Joe Berg org and we'd get all these KRs. We'd get knowledge reports from the staff going like 27,000 people did not come into our org. Be like well, tell David Miscavige that he's the one that turned that into 27,000.
Speaker 1:Nbg, mbg, mbgs TV. I can't forget the story of the child toddler who was left to cry with the anchor and chains on the Scientology ship. What happened to that child? I don't know. We covered that in another thing, but Claire is going to be interviewing somebody who might know about that and I'll make sure she asks her if she knows about the children. I know who it is, and I'll make sure she asks her if she knows about the children and the chainlocker.
Speaker 1:You know who the chainlocker kid is? Yeah, who's the chainlocker?
Speaker 3:kid, it's Mike Reppin.
Speaker 2:No, it isn't.
Speaker 3:Yeah, isn't he in the second-gen Facebook group? He talks about it all the time.
Speaker 1:He's the chainlocker, kid yeah.
Speaker 4:Mike Reppin was just here commenting, I think.
Speaker 3:Wow, he's even commented. I've even seen him comment in the chat about it.
Speaker 1:Oh, Claire, you gotta get on that. I didn't know he was the Chain Locker Kid. There is a story about a kid who was locked in the Chain Locker on the Apollo. It was on some Sea Org ship. Okay, we're on the last questions. Turning point event is the most boofed DM hair has ever been. Bride of Frankenstein, if SPTV keeps mentioning this, dm will only see his insecure hairstyle and we will ruin his greatest moment, jason, yeah, that boof does seem to be getting bigger. Mike, it wasn't as boofy when we were there doing events. He's really boofing it out because that's how you get ants Trying to make them taller. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Sorry, mike, I'm trying to put these up really quick because they block you. Is there a way to?
Speaker 2:Let me read it then.
Speaker 1:No, oh, look at that, I like that. There we go. Okay, okay, here, let's do this. Oh, no, no, no, no, I had it before. Whatever, sorry guys, okay, um, how do firefighters and police have to behave if they respond to an emergency with known sp? If aaron's house was robbed, would they have to respond or would they wait for backup to take the report instead of them? The firefighters and the police aren't in on this. I don't think. Is that what that means? Yeah, no, firefighters and police can do whatever they want. Just because Scientology says you're an SP doesn't really mean anything. I've got all kinds of friends that are firefighters and police and they've read my book and if Scientology comes, scientology is the one that's going to have a problem. Here's a few shekels, because I, like you, they're dementors. Oh, dementors, yes, thank you. What caused the echo, mike? How's the throat, mike? That's good. Oh, yeah, asked and answered, I got my big pharma connection.
Speaker 1:That's a definition thing. Asked and answered. The echo was from some software that I had. Steven, thanks for bringing it up again, dem 199. Thank you, dem Sarah. Something? Lealoha, lealoha, blotcha. Do Sea Org staff at Body View still rinse LRH's clothes many times after washing them because of a scent phobia? Yep, they guys. There's Sea Org members that are laying L Ron Hubbard's clothes on his bed tonight. So if he comes back he's got something to wear and they're laying out the clothes that he wore when he was still alive in the 1980s. Facts Annette 232 SP bobblehead. Youtube short just premiered. Awesome, somebody sent me a link to that. That's going like this. Okay, these are the last ones, lee 790. Thank you for all you great people do. From your irish friend in newcastle, new saint, new south wales, new south wales. Thank you, lee. That's australia, not wales. Yes, sorry, sonia durstler. Anything about the shootings in 1996 at the portland org?
Speaker 1:um what do you mean? Anything about it was there a story? Did something happen? Did it?
Speaker 4:I I. It Was there a story, did something happen, did it? It's sort of some guy came in and did shoot some people staff members in the Portland dog but they didn't die. No, I don't think anybody died. I think that two people were seriously injured and I think that the guy had been like obviously, anybody that goes around shooting people is not stable mentally. I think he had been some reg, had gotten a hold of him and tried to get money out of him or something. I'm very vague on the details, I don't really remember.
Speaker 1:Wow, okay, I didn't know about that. I was at the Ant Bay. No-transcript video. This is david miscavige, scientology boss, baby shoops of the week. Here we go, folks. Okay, this is the winner of last week's competition. Amazing religion impossible. Now, in case you haven't seen it, you got dave and tom in the middle in a romantic embrace, just about to seal the deal. You know what I mean? Um, it says religion impossible, rogue Thetans. You've got Jeannie Sonnefeld there with a bankruptcy sign. You got Marty with a little sleazy stash cruising in under the beak he's shoving a little cash into his jacket there. And then you got Donnie. Danny Masterson is got his little real hip, fifth and all or whatever there and his little jar there. And then you got Shelly behind bars. And then you've got these ghosts of Elrond just hanging out in the background there. Religion Impossible. And, by the way, religion Impossible was the clear winner, but Nuts Around the was it.
Speaker 2:Nuts of the Round Table, nuts of the Round Table. Nuts of the Round Table was a very close second.
Speaker 1:It was getting close, but then Religion Impossible. Once it started getting a lead, it just took off. There was no way to catch that horse. Okay, are you guys ready for the next ones? We've got some amazing shoes. Amazing, we got this one. This is Camel Dave. You know, david Miscavige's cigarette of choice is a camel straight, or a camel non-filter, or a death stick, whatever you want to call it. He likes to smoke these. Smoke a, give your throat a vacation, smoke a fresh cigarette, camels. And then it's got Dave, and he's got his little. He's got a little doctor, a little light focuser on there. I don't know what that thing is called, but it's so he can see down your throat better. And so this is Camel Dave or Smokey Dave, whatever you want to call it, camel Dave or Smokey Dave, we'll know. You've got to comment in the end which one you like the best. So keep track of these.
Speaker 2:Yes, not in the chat. Not in the chat for the video.
Speaker 1:This is big boy director Dave. Big boy director, dave. He's got his little director hat on, he's got his little vest. He's got his little Golden Era Productions badge. He's got his big boy director and it says director COB, cameraman COB. He's doing it all. He's got Elizabeth Moss Giovannianni, or, as I knew him as a kid, fani vani rabisi. He's got a a little weathered l ron hubbard there. Uh, juliet lewis, maybe he has some substances uh in her body, I don't know. She's just feeling really good. Tom's laughing it up. And then john travolta is on the screen as turl. They they're watching Battlefield Earth. And then in the front row it looks like John and his babysitter. It looks like John and his babysitter are making out in the front row.
Speaker 3:That's Jeff Catherine that John is kissing on the mouth. There Was this babysitter masseuse, or Jeff Catherine was the nanny.
Speaker 1:Okay, and the masseuse Just the nanny was, or both, was the nanny okay and the masseuse just the nanny? Okay, just the nanny. Well, the massages were free. You know, I've seen tom brady kiss people on the mouth too. So you know, I don't know. Um, okay, so this is battlefield earth, dave. Okay, is there any other? There might be any, there might be other eas eggs, but these are the ones I've identified. Okay, this is Crest and Dave. So you got the Bluebird Motorhome which LA Ron Hubbard had it said Commodore's Hideaway, and then you got Dave behind that little wall there and it says Crest and Ranch and he's saying they'll never find me here. So that's Crest and Dave. This is Big Bang, dave. This looks like it's been taken from the TV show. And you got John Travolta, l Ron Hubbard from the late 40s, early 50s. You've got Dave chowing down on some noodles and then you've got Tom and they're all, uh, getting some of those gummies. What is that called balance?
Speaker 3:balance of nature balance of nature.
Speaker 1:Gullies chowing down on so and um.
Speaker 3:I've been getting so many emails about how these balance of nature ads are just everywhere. I've never seen one. I just don't watch me either yeah, I've never seen one.
Speaker 1:I just don't watch TV Me either.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've never seen them either. All over MSNBC and Fox News, people tell me that this company practically funds Fox News. There's so many commercials on every program.
Speaker 4:And this is the guy that Ben Shapiro, this is the company Ben Shapiro promotes right Yep.
Speaker 3:Ben Shapiro promotes them on every podcast.
Speaker 1:Okay, so this is Big Bang Dave. This is Look who's Talking Dave podcast. Okay, so this is big bang, uh, big bang, dave. Um, this is uh, look who's talking dave. So, uh, you got jake john travolta and he's just carrying dave around. This is an actual size photo too, guys. This is not exaggerated in any way. Um, this is uh, look who's talking dave. This is get thee behind me, unclean thetan. And it looks like, uh, dave, uh, maybe, uh, maybe, got bit or something. He's got this vampire thing going and then somebody's using a bobble head to uh, get, get those unclean thetans out. That looks like eddie munster. You know what it might be that we could call that munster dave, munster dave.
Speaker 1:Um, this is, uh, can't too short to ride Dave. So this, this carnival's got a 5-2. You must be this tall and Dave's just coming in right under that and so, sorry, dave, no ride for you. This is a carnival, dave, or too short to ride Dave. This is despicable mentology. And it's got Dave Miscavige as Gru, and then I guess his brother is Tom and that's the other Gru like his brother. I don't remember that. And they've got Tom's. What do you call that thing? Mike Bowling trophy, bowling trophy. He's got his bowling trophy and yeah.
Speaker 1:His patron, meritorious Maximus yeah, glutamus, yeah, and that's uh. So that's despicable, dave. And uh, this is, um, I'm not sure this is. This is just. I don't even know how you theme this one. This is dave tent. Dave. He's in a tent there on that little island that the free winds has, uh, has run a ground on, and then there's a statue of liberty and then there's a bunch of people. I love new york, proud to be sp, um, so, yeah, this is stowaway.
Speaker 3:This is um stowaway.
Speaker 1:Castaway dave well, no, castaway dave's coming up, trust me. Also, there's some stuff that's inspired by you two last night that's coming up as well, so get ready for that. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4:I know exactly what you're talking about. So this is tent.
Speaker 1:This is Dave in a tent. Okay, now this. I left this one in. This is guys, we have a quality standard we're trying to maintain here. Okay, if you don't know how to use Photoshop, if you don't know how to use photoshop, you don't know how to use photoshop. But there's a lot of people that are submitting things who don't know how you do photoshop. That's better than this. Okay, this is. I left this in because I want you to know what not to send me. Okay, I love it, but it's not as good as I'd like, and it's also guess what it's portrait. So two strikes, two'd like. And it's also guess what it's portrait. So two strikes, two strikes. Please, guys, come on, let's keep our quality. Let's have some semblance of quality. This one's okay, it's also kind of bad, but just because it's Alfred E Newman and Dave has been compared to Alfred E Newman probably about 10 million times, so I left it in. It says the latest of the early years, totally mad. So that's mad, dave.
Speaker 3:This is uh, this is garbage, dave, the dave the garbage digger, this is a special, special collections, dave, yeah trash panda dave, dumpster dave dumpster dave, you know that's the d line?
Speaker 1:yeah, that's what they call it, or they. What's the other thing? Special collection.
Speaker 4:Special collections or the D line. The D line was way more common. That was the and is D for dumpster. Yes, okay, there you go. That's Dumpster, dave. It might have originally been from dust bin from the GO days.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, oh, nice Dumpster Dave. Okay, this is Ride Along, dave. So this is Grant Cardone just getting off his plane. Uncle G plane and the FBI are coming and Dave's just like catching a little ride, like a little super glider, like a little what are those things called Sugar bear Just kind of hanging out with uncle g.
Speaker 1:Um, this is from alex. Uh, this is from apostate alex. This is to grow your own cult leader and you just put him in a little thing, a bowl of water, and then again he'll, he'll, he'll go. He won't grow out of the bowl, but he'll be actual size. Uh, grow your own cult leader, dave. That's from Alex. Apostate Alex. Thank you for that.
Speaker 1:This is young Dave. I want to say this from that TV show from the Big Bang guy, young Sheldon, and that's a little Dave getting. It looks like he's trying to make a move on this gal with her trapper keeper there. Maybe show him how smart he is. That's, that's young dave. Um, okay, now mike and aaron are going talking about dave at the hacienda last night on their live stream and mike just says he could be taming lions in there. No one would know. And then aaron has this great idea for everybody to send me all their shoops of Dave and Tom with the lions. So now we're going to go to that section of the shoops because they came, and they came fast and hard. Here they are there's. This is a. So somebody told their a. Whatever that a I program that makes photos make me a Dave Miscavige and Tom Cruise with a lion, and this is what it spat out.
Speaker 4:And Siegfried and Roy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as Siegfried and Roy. So this is really weird, guys. You know, what's really weird to me is those are Tom Cruise's teeth, a-r-i or not. That's got that big giant chomper that's in the middle Tom middle tooth. It's got Tom middle tooth all over it. Yeah, okay, so this is. We'll call this Dave and Tom with Simba. Dave and Tom with Simba. Okay, now this is. Oh, I thought we had more, but maybe we do. They might be later. This is Super Dave. This is in Florida. This is at the Flag Auditorium. He's got some regular-sized Sea Org members behind him and then he's regular-sized in the front. He's got his little under-oo outfit that he goes to sleep in every night and he's got a little S with a. It's a Scientology sign, but it's a scientology sign, but it's a money, it's a money s and, uh, this is super dave. Um, I think I know the gal in the middle. Do you either? Do you guys know the ones on the outside?
Speaker 1:no, I was just looking, I was yeah, they're not recognizable and this picture might be from the 80s. It looks like it's not mid 90s.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um kind of so I know, I know the girl on the left. I just cannot, for the life of me, remember her name right now.
Speaker 1:Okay, was it the girl that was married to? Oh, nevermind, we'll go. Okay, super Dave. Okay, this is a diesel Dave, not to be confused with the diesel brothers, but this is just bearded Dave. And yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure this person was just like here's Dave with the beard. So we got Dave with the beard, it's undercover Dave. Undercover. Dave, you didn't serve me. That was my cousin Beard.
Speaker 3:Daryl.
Speaker 1:Daryl Beaded Daryl. Did he have a beard? Oh yeah, that was Daryl. That was definitely Daryl. Did Beat a Daryl. Did he have a beard? Oh yeah, that was Daryl. That was definitely Daryl. Did he have an Italian suit on? Yeah, he borrows it. This is Pee Wee Miscavige and Pee Wee's Big Adventure. And this is Dave's riding his little bike and a comic odyssey A Howling Good Time, says Michael Wilmington of Los Angeles Times. Pee Wee Miscavige, pee Wee's Big Adventure. This is I don't know what this is. This is playtime with Dave and Tom. Tom's a brony, so he's got his little pony trike and Dave is dressed up in his little Davey Navy fake Navy outfit. And there's an anonymous guy right next to Dave.
Speaker 4:Shelly In the bottom left corner or bottom right corner.
Speaker 1:Yeah, look at that, there's a little action Hulk Hogan action figure in there. There's a squirrel. There's I can't say it on YouTube, but there's an L Ron Hubbard motorized accessory that you wear in your backside and it's shaped like L Ron Hubbard and it's it's vibrating and that is there on the laptop. That's what Tom's been search history. And then there's a picture of L Ron with an Afro in the back and it says L Ron Hoya Bembe.
Speaker 1:L Ron Hoya Bembe, and it says turn that poop into wine. And, um, so that's going. And then there's another this, this thing is endless easter eggs. There's a, there's a pack of camel filters uh, on the bottom of the screen with a little ashtray, and there's a cup. There's a bunch of cups, but this cup next to dave says keep calm and trust ron.
Speaker 1:Oh, and the boat that shelly's in and that dave's on the front of it's called the scientology summer camp. And, um, that's right below those little, uh, those little deflectors or whatever those, the soft things you put on the boat. And then on the wall it says T and D. And then, um, there's a Scientology cross. Um, yeah, there's a sign that says. There's a sign that says I want you for Scientology with Tom Cruise at a podium. Um, yeah. And then there's some more Hulk Hoganogan dolls on the other side. And then there's another one of those, um, l ron hubbard motorized accessories for the back side over there on the side, um, I think that's it. So let's just call this one toy time with tom and dave, toy time with tom and dave. This is very elaborate folks. There's a a lot, a lot of work that went into this. Okay.
Speaker 3:This might be my favorite.
Speaker 1:Under the Sea org. Okay, wow, okay, another one. There's Monique.
Speaker 4:Now this is someone that knows how to use Photoshop.
Speaker 1:Well, at the very bottom right-hand corner there's a blobfish and that's Monique Yingling, yep, yep. Then you've got dave and tom. Dave is the ginger, tom is the uh, darker haired one on the on the shore there, right where the, where the waves are breaking. Dave's the mermaid. Dave is the mermaid. Yeah, as, as you know, as it is um. And then, um, there's a, there's a fish behind him and that's Marty, and he's in the water there. Then there's like an Atlantis underneath there which has got a giant Scientology cross.
Speaker 1:Um, then you've got all these mermaids up here Uh, I guess they're just Sea Org mermaids and then you've got the free winds, which is having some issues, which is just getting ready to dock. Then you got the free winds, which is having some issues, which is just getting ready to dock, and then you've got a bfg castle over there and xenu is on the top of that parapet of the castle, just like on the, the balcony, banishing dave to the sea. Oh, and then there's another, like a pelican or some kind of bird or some kind of animal, that's up behind tom, which looks like danny masterson with his little sleazy stash cruising in under the beak. And then you've got a mike render bobblehead up on the mountain and then, um, yeah, that's what you got. So this is under the sea.
Speaker 1:Orc, this is one of my favorites, but that toy time with toy time, that's the uh, let's toss up for me. Okay, this is um, this is breaking bad dave, and uh, he's just smoking a blunt and uh, chilling. Um, can I say that on youtube, aaron, we'll see spoiler alert. Scientology is an mlm criminal cult and then it's just got a bunch of destroys families, traffics children, protects bad people, shames and silences bad people, uses blackmail and Stasi doesn't pay taxes after coercing IRS authorities. Time is running out, david Miscavige, the people know so. Better call Tom, john and Grant, because their PR has a lot of work ahead of them. Scientology is fooked Spoiler and then it's got a. I didn't click on that. Maybe somebody can go to that. Maybe I should go to it before I tell other people.
Speaker 3:Oh, I bet it's a real QR code, huh.
Speaker 1:I'm going to. I'm going to see. Oh yeah, it is. And goes to the aftermath. Love it. Curious Aftermath QR code Good guy, good guy. So that's goes to the aftermath. Love it. Curious aftermath QR code. Good guy, good guy. So that's a spoiler alert with Dave. This is, this is Dave, and he's getting served and on the plate is a massive lawsuit. Okay, that's, dave gets served. This is cast away, dave. He's stuck on the island with Wilson and he's reading my blown for good. Okay, that's, dave, get Served. This is Castaway Dave. He's stuck on the island with Wilson and he's reading my Blown for Good book and he's got an SP bracelet on, which doesn't make sense. He, yeah, he wouldn't be reading my book, but if he's on it, maybe he was going to use it for something. And then his plane went down and he got on the island. That's Castaway Dave. We're almost to the end, guys.
Speaker 3:Oh, went down and he got on the island. That's castaway, dave. We're almost to the end, guys. Oh, here we go.
Speaker 1:This is this is sigfried and dave. And uh, this is, uh, him and tom. And are those ligers? What do they call those? They're just white tigers. White tigers and, um, yeah, they're about to, and they're about to have an emotional embrace and then be eaten for dinner. This is Popeye as L Ron Hubbard, as Popeye spanking Sweet Pea, which is being played by David Miscavige. So that's Popeye Dave. This is Mad Dave Gets nutty.
Speaker 1:Okay, now see how the resolution is going down. And these are portrait guys. This is what I'm talking about. I don't think it's really contributing to the overall. Oh, here we go, still going down. And these are portrait guys. This is what I'm talking about. I don't think it's really contributing to the overall. Oh, here we go, still keeping your seat warm is Dave? Oh, I've never seen that picture of Dave before. And he's got a little devil Dave. And then he's got an Elrond. We're almost at the end, guys. We're almost at the end. Faces behind the hate. It's got all these pictures. This is a photoshop that's done after. Scientology has one of these that has all of us.
Speaker 1:And this one says faces behind the hate and they've crossed out hate and it says cult. You got tommy danny. Tommy davis, danny masterson, l run hubbard from the 1940s and 50s. David miscavige, tom Tom Cruise, grant Cardone with his little 10X button. Oh, tampa Brad making it in here, yeah. And then Marty Rathbun Gosh. Tampa Brad's getting shrapnel, full time Faces behind the cult. Credit to Clara. Clara did that one.
Speaker 1:This is actual size Dave, and he's holding a quarter. That's how small he is. A Keebler King, scientology boss baby. And then, so that's actual size Dave. This is Top Gun Dave. He's riding on the back of Tom's motorcycle like he likes to do, and he's got his little BFG patch. And then you've got Xenu Dave.
Speaker 1:This is what I'm worried about. If Xenu's real and he comes back, you're not going to want to be on Dave's side, you're going to want to be on Xenu's side. Xenu is capable of not only galactic interstellar travel but also mass cargo transit interstellar. He's got a lot of technology and I don't want people to think that Dave is going to be able to go up against him. This is xenu and dave. Um, this is sell them dave's dave on a pack of cigarettes, us mint flavored. Again, these are portrait, so they might as well be trash to me, but I'm putting them in anyway.
Speaker 1:Chock full of poo. Wake up and smell the friggin coffee. And it's got a picture of Dave going. Wow, that's chock full of Dave. And this is another actual size Dave with a coffee cup. And he's about to get a little. This is an espresso, it's not a full cup, that's like a shot glass of coffee. And this is Dave with a friend he met from germany and, um, he's just putting on his little summer dress, going out for a walk with his uh, his uh friend from germany, their mentor, uh, his mentor, yeah, it's uh, his ol, as they call it in scientology, his opinion leader. Um, uh, jdl, that's, I think. Is that the last? That's the last one, okay. And that was David Miscavige, scientology Boss, baby Shoops of the Week, okay. So vote for your best ones. Let's wrap it up here. Somebody just said Chain Locker Kid Story is an L Ron Hubbard, messiah or Madman book. Yes, that's right. I didn't realize it was Mike repping, though. That's so crazy.
Speaker 3:I believe Mike repping I wasn't four years old. He was probably closer to 15. So maybe you're talking thinking of someone else.
Speaker 1:Well yep, you were the one that said Mike was more than one kid, that was. Oh guys.
Speaker 2:Yes one that said mike reppin more than one kid that was, oh guys.
Speaker 4:Yes, there was another guy called lonnie gary ap who was put in the chain locker for stealing tony dunleavy's rolex when I was there. Wow it.
Speaker 1:It happened more than once, yeah I think the only people that would fit in the chain locker were kids, right you?
Speaker 4:could get no, no, regular. Yeah, people were sent to the chain like regular adults were too. Oh my goodness when the anchor was out, there was plenty of room.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, I get it. Okay. J dice uh, dm and tc homoerotic shoops are getting old people. Yeah, j dice is very sensitive to those type of things. Guys take it easy.
Speaker 1:The internet wants with the internet one yeah, and also I have not ever made I don't know how to use Photoshop, so I'm relying on you guys to use your judgment on what you feel will be entertaining to everybody. And some of you are hitting it out of the park but, to be fair, the Dave and Tom things that essentially that got stirred up yesterday on the live with the Siegfried and Roy idea and it just it is what it is, guys, and I did find it amusing on the live with the Siegfried and Roy idea and it just it is what it is, guys, and I did find it amusing. Up Mayo has anyone got information on Brian?
Speaker 4:Teague. I thought we were done.
Speaker 1:I know I'm just putting this up because it was the last one. Brian, do you guys know who Brian is? Brian Teague, ty, ty, oh, it's Brendan. Oh yeah, he was he. Ty, it's brent. It's ty, oh, it's brendan. Oh yeah, he was. He's our friend here. Well, yeah, he was. Came on to tell the being. Was he on the aftermath too, right? No, he wasn't on megan kelly oh, megan kelly, and he's also done interviews with you on your channel. Right, aaron, he did a fair game interview oh, yes, that's what it was.
Speaker 1:He did a podcast fair game podcast interview. Okay, um, if you guys are not subscribed to any of our channels, do that. Mike's got a channel. Aaron's got a channel. I've got a channel. Um, please subscribe um. Andrew gold said you don't need subscribers. It's a vanity thing. It's not totally a vanity thing. And Andrew Advertisers YouTube, the algorithm the more subscribers you have, the more people it's going to put your videos up in front of.
Speaker 1:We'll put a description to Mike's book below and Mike's blog. If you want to get a signed inscription book, if you want to get a book from my site, all the copies from my site are signed. I'm not writing inscriptions yet I'm not set up for that, but all the books you can buy from blownforgoodcom are signed by myself and Claire. And if you want to support the Aftermath Foundation, you can go to. I've got these banners here. Oh, look at that.
Speaker 1:You can go to the SP shop, buy a bobblehead or an SP bracelet and all the funds from the SP shop go to support the Aftermath Foundation. If you want to just support the Aftermath Foundation, you can go to the aftermathfoundationorg and you can do so there. You can also sign up as a volunteer. If you want to drive somebody to the airport or if we need something, we send it out to the list. Like, hey, we need an old laptop or we need an old phone, or we need a kid's clothes for the winter for these kids that are this age. Whatever we need, we send it out to that list. Um, for the volunteers for the aftermath foundation and uh, let's just see here if we've got anything else. I think that was it. Did I forget anything?
Speaker 1:No that was a marathon. What are we at right here, guys? We're at two 21. That might be a new world record for all of us. Um, what are we at right here, guys? We're at 221. That might be a new world record for all of us. Thank you, mike.
Speaker 3:And we hit about 2,000 people watching, which is more than people. That's more than the people who turn up for a David Miscavige event 100%.
Speaker 2:That's more people than were on study in Scientology Orcs today.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's true as well. So for all you Scientologists out there, when you leave Scientology, there's more Scientologists that you knew on the outside of Scientology than there are on the inside, because they're all leaving and getting declared and blowing and reading the internet and smoking pot and eating mushrooms and doing all kinds of stuff you're not supposed to do in Scientology, and they're out here doing all that, not there. So if you want to reconnect with those people, they're all here, they're all waiting for you. There's so many people that will support you on the outside. You won't have to be embarrassed, you won't have to be ashamed. We're here to help you, don't worry about it. It's all good, we're not mean, we're not evil and we don't eat babies. We about it, it's all good, we're not mean, we're not evil and we don't eat babies. We don't do any of those things Osa says we do. We're just regular people that are trying to help the people. I just wanted to say one last thing. People ask why we do what we do. If you escaped and you could help the people that were still there that haven't escaped. If you didn't do that, I don't, that kind of says something about you and I think, uh, that's why I do it. I'm trying to make sure those people that are still stuck there can get out, and they've got a place to go or a way to get out on their feet again.
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