Hey guys, welcome to the channel. We've got Claire with us tonight.
Speaker 2:Good evening everybody, Hello Hello.
Speaker 1:While we're getting everything set up here, let's find out where everybody's in here from tonight. A lot of people I see in the comments are saying hi, osa, from wherever you're from. That's funny. Hello from Wyoming. Oh, we got all kinds of people.
Speaker 2:Pennsylvania, we got Delaware, albuquerque.
Speaker 1:Pennsylvania, we got Delaware, albuquerque.
Speaker 2:Ohio, portland, oregon.
Speaker 1:Houston, arkansas, new York, florida, ocala, st Louis Long.
Speaker 2:Island, New York.
Speaker 1:Cornville, arizona. So, cornville, arizona, I went. I think I went to Cornville one time when I went to Sedona, arizona, for as part of Golden Air Productions, we went and shot something in Sedona. Well, thanks for joining us, guys. We have, we've got a lot in store for you tonight. What do we have we got?
Speaker 1:I know I might've said this last week, but Claire and I did a podcast. It's called the Indie Authors Podcast. I'll put a link in the description, but it's a podcast that we did that explains the entire sort of the production that I and Claire went through when we produced my blown for good book, and we've never we never really have ever talked about that anywhere else. I think that podcast is the only place where we sort of deep dived in how we made my book and why we did it certain ways because Scientology was attacking us and we didn't want the publisher to pay us for a book and then they own the book but then never have it come out. All that stuff is in that podcast, so we'll put it down below.
Speaker 1:Claire's got another interview coming out tomorrow morning first thing, and that is the Mark Fisher part two Mark Fisher, ex-c-org member, ex-rtc C org member, and then next week Claire has another interview coming out with I think that one's part three with Jackson Gary Moorhead, also another ex-C org member from the base, and so one of those is coming out tomorrow and then one of those will be coming out next wednesday. And then claire's podcast, um this morning with um with katherine olsen just came out on the podcast this morning, and then she has a new podcast coming out every week as well on the wherever you get the Blum for Good podcast.
Speaker 2:And my interview airs at. It goes live at 8 am tomorrow, right.
Speaker 1:That's right, 8 am First thing in the morning every Wednesday. And then, yeah, we're not only doing X Int Base, we're also doing other X Sea Org members as well Like, catherine Olson was never at the Int Base, but're also doing other ex-C-Org members as well. Like, catherine Olson was never at the Int Base but she did an interview. So we're only doing the Int Base people because those are the people we know the best.
Speaker 2:And, most of the time, who have the craziest stories.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's stuff happening in other bases.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of crazy stuff elsewhere, but at least you know.
Speaker 1:Well, relative to the base, the stories are sometimes, and usually, less crazy, so we try to stick with the craziest ones. Oh, look what I got here we got. Oh, there's a super. Oh, have you already started starring these? I have the ratings just came in for SPTV. And baby Davey needs a diaper change Oopsies. Thank you, Aaron.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's Aaron.
Speaker 1:Yes, growing up in Scientology, that comment was from. And yes, there you go. Okay, I'm trying to think if there's anything else. We covered all the new stuff. So tonight we're going to do we're trying to get like a routine here so we're going to do bobblehead picks, then we're going to do Q and A, we'll answer questions and we will answer the super chats, but we also try to answer some non-super chats every once in a while too, excuse me. So we'll try to answer super chats and any other um questions that uh seem like they might be good ones, and then at the end of the video we will do the david miscavige shoops of the week, and we do have some really good ones. We have some really good bobblehead ones too, and um.
Speaker 2:Do we need to?
Speaker 1:do I need to cover anything else, or should we do the bobble picks now?
Speaker 2:uh, just wanted we should just say thanks to everyone who sent us amazing sptv logos oh, yeah, we got some amazing ones we got a lot of those.
Speaker 1:I'm just wondering. I hear a fan. I don't know if it's where you are or where I am.
Speaker 2:I don't hear it, but I can.
Speaker 1:For some reason, my hearing is like super sensitive today. We'll try to turn that off, it's been a heck of a day. Yeah, it's been a heck of a day. Okay, let's do. Oh, yeah, there it is. I see it. It's a fan. It's up where you are, but I turned it off.
Speaker 2:Okay, oh, yeah, there you go. Okay, we're good.
Speaker 1:Okay. So now we've got Mike Rinder bobbleheads of the week. So last week the Mike Rinder Mardi Gras that was the winner by a landslide I'm sorry anybody else who put your bobble pick in, but Mike Rinder Mardi Gras just slayed it, and so this is from last week. They dressed him up in like a little outfit and he's wearing his little parade float thing. So that was great. So whoever sent that in, you get either a book, a signed book, or, I think, a bracelet SP bracelets what we give away for those.
Speaker 2:Yep and to clarify, it's a signed BFG book. Somebody had asked me to send Mike's book. We don't have those anymore.
Speaker 1:We don't have any of those, so you've got to get with Mike to do that. So sorry, we only have limited prizes in the bobblehead and the shoops contest.
Speaker 2:More to come, but for now, that's what we've got to offer.
Speaker 1:Okay, so this is last week's winner. Okay, now this guy, this guy is amazing so.
Speaker 1:I used. He sent me a picture with just the bobblehead and the Golden Era Productions logo or sign and I used that for the thumbnail for yesterday's video. But this is an actual picture that this gentleman took and this is at the Int Base. So this guy went to the int base where golden era productions is located, he drove up and he took this picture now on last night's stream. I was worried that he may have he. You have to park somewhere in order to do this and then they get your license plate or your vin or any of that stuff they would get from your car when you stop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because this is right by the main entrance, right Like the main security booth is to the right of this.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So this picture if you're looking at it straight on and you just panned over to the right, you would see a gate and a guard booth and that's where the Golden Arrow era productions c-org member security guards are sitting and that's where they control these cameras that take pictures of everything. Anyway. Um, he emailed me again today and he said he covered his license plate, he covered his vin number on the dash, he put tape over the vin number on the dash. He put tape over the VIN number on the door, Like when you open the door. He covered that up and he blocked as many identifying factors as possible. And he also took a weird way home. So if they were following him, he would have lost them as well. So if they were following him, they would have. He would have lost them as well. So that is pretty crazy that he did all that and took the proper precautions.
Speaker 1:So we're going to just call this one Mike Rinder goes to golden era and or goes back. Mike Rinder goes back to Golden Era. And this is this guy sent a few and since he did so much, I'm going to show them all. So here, and the last one is pretty amazing. So here's him with his book and his bobble in front of Golden Era is just Mike in front of Golden Era. Productions Mike Rinder, mike Jr uh, bobble Rinder, whatever you want to call it. And then this one he has a cracker that he has licked and he put it in his mouth.
Speaker 2:So it's pretty amazing. I'm noticing that they must have cut the budget on the um flower beds in the background there. They used to be like flowers and green.
Speaker 1:To be fair, it is winter and they may. They have. Just. It looks like they're practicing a xeriscape program where they have low flow plants like cacti and other things that drink less water. Now that the int base is all but abandoned by Davidid miscavige, they're probably not getting a lot of money for, uh, all that irrigation that they were running. So, um, anyway. So that is that next one. Now this is another bubble render in front of another scientology organization, and I think this one is seattle right I think so.
Speaker 2:Yep, I think so. I asked. I asked the person to clarify, but then I saw in a later email she said seattle.
Speaker 1:So okay, so this is uh. Bobble render goes to seattle, which is a really good. I love the quality, I love the uh. I love the landscapeness of it, how it's wide side to side.
Speaker 2:Do you really though?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And I like that it's very wide and not skinny, high and skinny.
Speaker 2:It's nice and side to side.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nice, and side to side. So this is Seattle Bobble Render and this one is the Xenu Bobble Render and this one is the Xenu Bobble Render. He looks like he's got. I was going to say it looks like a solo cup, but I think it's like a solo shot cup that's been fashioned into like a Devo outfit. So we'll call this one Devo Bobblehead.
Speaker 2:No, no, call that one Xenu.
Speaker 1:Well, the next one says the exact same thing, doesn't it?
Speaker 2:I don't think so. I don't know, I could be wrong.
Speaker 1:Whatever, you can call it Solo or Devo bobble render, or you can call it Xenu bobble render. The next one is Fez, oh, fez. So now they've cut the bottom of the cup off, and now it's a Fez. So now they've cut the bottom of the cup off and now it's a Fez. Bob will render.
Speaker 2:I like how he's like gazing off into the distance like all poetic.
Speaker 1:I can't see really if he's sitting in the the brush or laying or no, I think he's standing Standing.
Speaker 2:He's like glancing off into.
Speaker 1:It's angle times angle. In this picture there's a lot of angles happening, so still, it's still side to side, though. Um, and now this one is oh, devo bobble render. Okay, I get it. So, yeah, we got it. Is xenu bobble render? Yep, fez bobble render and devo bobble render. How crazy is it that just by cutting this cup into smaller and smaller pieces, it can mean many different things?
Speaker 2:And changing the background. We got a whole variety, so thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, very creative, and I think what we're going to do is you guys can vote for any of these three, but whichever one you vote for, I'm going to combine the votes because it's all from the same person. So, yeah, whip it. Good, okay, oh, another one.
Speaker 2:this is, you're a handsome my, you're a handsome fella, bob O'Rinder. This is, that's like what our cat does in the mirror, yeah we have a cat that just loves to look at himself in the mirror.
Speaker 1:I don't know, and it's not all cats, because we get another cat that doesn't to look at himself in the mirror. I don't know, and it's not all cats, because we get another cat that doesn't do it at all. So it's just certain cats.
Speaker 2:Uh, sort of like to I think it's a male, a male phenomena in this case yeah, maybe because the cat is male, because you might have something there.
Speaker 1:Um, okay, and then, uh, do we have any other ones? Yes, oh, another one. Oh, my goodness, does it ever end? The most interesting man in the room? Yep, true that, and actually did he have the tassel in the other one?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, he did, he had the tassel, oh yeah look at that he didn't have it in the Fez one, but I thought you'd have a Fez one. Oh, I can't keep up with this, okay, and then this is a pretty awesome picture. I have taken a picture from the same place and almost at the same time with the family at the Kennedy Space Center. We've got a really great picture of the whole Headley clan at the Kennedy Space Center, which we've been to a few times right, been, at least two or three times right. Yeah, we've seen a few launches from there too. We're big space SpaceX people here like watching rockets take off.
Speaker 1:So this is Bobble Render at Ksc. Bobble render at ksc not to be confused with kfc, which is a whole nother place and, uh, they only launch uh chicken wings there from kfc, as far as I can recall. Yeah, um, and then the next guys. We've had this discussion like they could have just put all that stuff this way and it would be the same stuff just in landscape. But it's a winter road trip with mini Mike, winter road trip with mini Mike, mike, and it looks like we've got a Mike on the dash, mike with a moose, mike with uh frozen tundra, mike with some kind of statue or no, that's the back of the moose well, I know that, but what's the the red thing?
Speaker 1:that's not a moose?
Speaker 2:oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not sure what that is yeah, I'm not sure, some kind of statue or structure or monument or something. And then the hiding place, the moose hiding place, as the person said in their picture. Um, okay, so uh, that's all we got. That's all the mike rinder bobbleheads. Um, let's do questions. I'm, you know, I'm fixing to go for a while. If you're good to go for a while, if you're good to go for a while, babe, yeah. I'm good, hey. Thanks to all the 1200 people here already.
Speaker 2:That's amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll do it, man yeah let's do it, let me just uh we're good, it's almost Friday. Yay, it's almost Friday.
Speaker 2:Only six more days to Friday, or what it was today, tuesday Only four more days to Friday, did that sound?
Speaker 1:too obvious, I'm sorry. Oh, my goodness, I'm pretty sure it's Tuesday. I was not almost Friday, it's not even hump day.
Speaker 2:Oh boy, but it will be by tomorrow.
Speaker 1:We work all days of the week really, at the end of the day, we pretty much do work days of the week really at the end of the day, we pretty much do work. So, um, yeah, uh, we do. We do kind of lose track of the days, since we work every day. It's kind of become a bad habit. It is probably wednesday somewhere sometimes uh, it might be wednesday in australia.
Speaker 2:Right there you go, there you go.
Speaker 1:I got hope um, okay, uh, do we have any questions? We've got a lot of questions. Start. If you're good to go, I say we vote on which bobblehead you like in the comments and then not in the chat, in the comments, please.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then let's take, let's do this, we'll get this, we'll get this. There we go, and now we've got Claire and myself back up here. Now we'll get back over to the comments from a poet. Hello, everybody here from central Arkansas, thank you from a poet. Ellie May is from Canada and we've got Gail from Delaware. Clearwater Chad from Pennsylvania, or he was saying hi to Pennsylvania. I never know what that Clearwater Chad from Pennsylvania, or he was saying hi to Pennsylvania. I never know with that Clearwater Chad anymore. Now watch yourself. What.
Speaker 2:I'm just kidding. Go ahead, you're doing fine.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, something happened. I don't know, I missed that. Bella Lata says so. I suggested yesterday in the comments after the live, as part of the cruise package, everyone get an SP flag. That way, when we pull up to the next to the free wins, we can call all, stand on the decks and wave our flags. You know, I was thinking it through. Thank you, bella. I appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 1:Bella, I was thinking it through last night and, to be fair, if we did do a cruise OK, if, if we did do a cruise and we did go to where the free winds was, they would most certainly move the free winds. Even though it's pretty much been parked in one place full time and it's there for several weeks or months at a time, it'll sometimes go out and do something or go somewhere and then come back and then just go to the same spot. So if we went on a cruise and we announced it, certainly OSA would figure out which cruise and they probably genuinely would send some agents to mess with people or at least get IDs or try to figure out who people are, and then they would move the free wins. So although it was a fun thought, um, I don't think it's, I don't think it's a reality, I think Scientology would. I mean, they're sending me.
Speaker 1:Osa is sending me portrait, me portrait. Uh, shoops every day, okay, just to torment me. So they will certainly move a boat from one dock to another or from one island to another.
Speaker 2:So, um, anyway, and not to mention the fact that they would lock all the eso members up. Yeah, even if we did get close to the boat no SO member likes being locked up.
Speaker 1:No, if we Not a fan, and if you did, if you knew you were going to go to Aruba, the free wins goes to the ABCs. Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao. Those are pretty much the three islands that they have an established birth at and they've kind of safe pointed the locals and people don't chase them off with rocks or anything. And they did that to the early Sea Orc vessels, the Apollo and the, or the Athena or whatever, the Diana, some of those small boats they used to float around, Hubbard used to float around. They would throw rocks at them when they, when they were leaving the dogs they did not have warm welcomes in some locations. Leaving the dogs, they did not have warm welcomes in some locations Anyway. So but if you do go on a cruise and you see the free wins, you could bring some aftermath cards and stick them in the gainway. Or if you see any random Sea Org members or people walking around on the islands that say free wins those are Scientologists you could give them an aftermath card.
Speaker 1:Yep, Calico 26 says can you do an episode on Jenny Linson? I guess we could. There's not really a lot to say. We've said most that can be said about her. She's not really a big deal. She's kind of a non-commodity. Also, Claire and I were at the Ant Base for over 10 years. I was there for 15. I think Claire was there for about 13 or 14. And Jenny Linson was only there for maybe five or six of those years. She didn't really show up until, like I want to say, 1990s or early 2000s.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she had been there earlier.
Speaker 1:She had, but she was posted in Florida in the Commodores Messenger Organization Clearwater, or CMOCW as everyone likes to say in Scientology. And she was. I don't even remember what her post was. Was she the CEO CMO.
Speaker 2:She was for a while she was. Wdc FSO. So she was the head management person over I know that when she was in CW. Oh, in CW. Yeah, she was the CEO CMO.
Speaker 1:OK, yeah, and her husband, tom DeVocht. He was the flag landlord, so he was in charge of all of the buildings in Clearwater. Yeah, yeah, so you're welcome, calico26. We just did a whole episode on Jenny Linson, so we're done, okay.
Speaker 2:I don't know. We could put together an episode on.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I have stories I've never talked about. Okay, well, there you go. Claire could do one of her, uh, her videos. Yeah, I, I, yeah, I. I did really never. I may have talked to Jenny Linson like directly with her, maybe like five times in my whole life, like I've been in lots of meetings with her, but where we had a conversation, not that many, we didn't really our jobs didn't kind of cross paths or my path crossed with her is a lot more than yours did. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2:For multiple reasons. Good and bad, mostly bad.
Speaker 1:Well, also, to be fair, Jenny Linson.
Speaker 1:When she did arrive to the property, she was one of David Miscavige's little soldiers, one of his little loyal soldiers, yep, one of his loyal officers, yeah, yeah, and she, because the areas that I worked were directly sort of under David Miscavige, like he managed them directly, somebody like Jenny Linson. He didn't want to bother to even go to where they worked or have them come to them. He would just tell people to go and get all this done in those places. So for that reason Jenny and I never really dealt with each other. Sd Cat Lover super sticker. Thank you, sd Cat Lover 1.
Speaker 2:Yes, thank you. I guess SD.
Speaker 1:Cat Lover 2, just Cat Lover was taken. Barb Sylvie says Hi, Osa from the newly established Spokane SPTV org. You know a bunch of people sent me emails asking for the SPTV logos. The people that I was offering to give the logos to were people that had YouTube channels, that were doing videos channel and you have some subscribers and you're doing local, uh, regular content, then please email me and I can send you a link to the logos. But I'm not just going to give them out to any Tom Dicker, harry that wants them. Uh, it's going to be like. You know people that we know that have channels. That was kind of what I was talking about. Scott Davison says Miscavige's hair looks fake, is it? Has he had any plastic surgery? You know that's been asked before. I want to say I've heard, or people have told me, that he's had hair plugs.
Speaker 2:Certainly looks like it compared to when we were there yeah, his hairline has more and more kind of round and poofy in it as the years go by, which is not naturally one's hairline timeline yeah, and it does seem to be more thick and moved forward a bit.
Speaker 1:um, I only know I think I only personally know one person that I 100% know has hair plugs and they're pretty amazing. You can get hair plugs these days where somebody wouldn't know, unless they knew you when you didn't have hair. Then that's kind of a dead giveaway.
Speaker 1:It's like, oh, your hair grew back yeah, I, I wouldn't doubt based on his um david miscavige's vanity and how he has a very uh hyper aware awareness of what people think or what he looks like to other people yeah, remember he had that super duper expensive tanning bed set up at the ship at the Gilman Hot Springs property, like he's the only SO member I've ever known to do tanning.
Speaker 2:That is a fact.
Speaker 1:Well, no, I do know of some other instances Like, I think, biddy.
Speaker 2:Okay, I don't, so I'm just saying for me personally, he's the only one I knew.
Speaker 1:Another person with the last name, miscavige, also may or may not have been taking spa days in Florida, and I'm not. I'm not even sure that that include tanning necessarily, but I thought it did. But yeah, david Miscavige owns a tanning bed. That's at the base. So for all you Scientologists out there wondering how your dollars are getting spent, they're getting spent on tanning beds for David Miscavige, and also the base is located in the California desert, so it's kind of one of the few places where you could just tan regularly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh.
Speaker 1:I think, I think the tanning is kind of like, uh, I think it's like door dash. You know you get the same thing, but you don't have to do a lot of running around. Hmm, okay, thanks Scott, appreciate it. Uh, frenchie Irish super sticker. Thank you, frenchie, irish frenchie. Um, let's do this. Let's say it's 6 45, we'll cut off any questions and then we'll go into, uh, uh, shoot mode. Chrissy gaming super sticker. Oh, thank you, chrissy gaming chrissy um kakutogi road.
Speaker 1:I love you both. Any chances we can get you two to have some classic SP guests, people like Amy Scobie, john Atack or others? Yeah, the thing we're trying to do right now. There is a method to my madness. Thank you, kakatogi Road.
Speaker 1:What I'm trying to do is I'm trying to have Claire interview some people and once she's done some interviews with them and we've aired those and we've shown those, uh, either on YouTube or the podcast or wherever they come out, then if we have them on, you'll sort of know their backstory and you will know what they've been to. For the people that watch all the time, it probably wouldn't really much matter, but for the people that are just tuning in, we don't want to just have somebody out of nowhere. We want to be able to refer to a video that we did where their whole story is, and it's hard to point people on, people on youtube, to the aftermath show or to other shows where we don't you may or may not be able to get those, where you live, in what region you are. So we're trying to create, like our own little ecosystem where we have an interview with that person, where we told their story and then, when we have them on. It makes a little more sense.
Speaker 2:And also I think it's fair to say that the aftermath, the shows, of course, are amazing, but it's often just a very small part of someone's story, so there's a lot still to learn about any given person.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Jackson Gary Moorhead appeared on the Aftermath Show and he may have been in more than one episode or he may have been in different sections of those episodes, but let's just say he was in one show. He probably would have his story probably would have took place over, say, 20 or 30 minutes of a single episode. And they have to establish who he is. They got to ask him some questions, they got to tell a bit of his story and then they sort of have to wrap it up and that's it. Well, claire's already done three interviews with Gary for several hours and correct me if I'm wrong you could probably do eight, eight, ten more hours with him and still have eight or ten more, 40, you know hundreds of videos on his channel when he gets up and running like another perfect example we were on.
Speaker 2:I think three episodes total over the different seasons of the aftermath yeah but yet you know, we'd never even got to the cadet org or me being born into growing up in Scientology, all of that. It's just the nature of the different format, that's all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the other thing about those shows is the shows are there's a lot of, there's a lot of cooks in the kitchen on that show.
Speaker 1:So you got Leah and Mike and obviously, whatever their vision is, that's why they're there to do it. But then you have the producers who are being paid to produce that show, and then you have the production company executives and maybe their lawyers, and then you've got Leah's lawyers and I don't know if Mike's got lawyers, but then you got the network lawyers and the network executives. So there's a ton of people that could just say that's got to come out and that's it, it's out, it's out of the show. And then the show kind of has to get retooled to still work without that piece, or maybe another part gets added that no one cares about. Anyway, so we're.
Speaker 1:The whole reason we're doing this on YouTube is we get a little bit more freedom. We can do it how we want. We can make it a decent quality. We're limited by some of the software and the platforms to be able to do this in HD or 4K and all that good stuff, but for the most part it's HD. We try to make the sound good or, you know, acceptable and um, and we try to not, uh, edit anything out.
Speaker 1:So in the interviews that Claire does, if they're edited anywhere, it's usually if there was a phone call or there was a light turned off for a second term, we just keep going and just cut it. You know, do a fade or jump cut or whatever, but um, but for the most part this is just unfiltered. And we do curse, we do use the words of the curse, um. So some of it's explicit, maybe. For the most part, I'd say it's safe for work. If you're playing it, we're not gonna drop that many f-bombs, um, but every once in a while some of the older, some of the older seer members are a little saltier and um, and they will curse just as part of their vernacular, just that's how they talk.
Speaker 2:um, we hear the seer notice that when we start, when we get together, with other people it just like I mean because we interact with normal people all the time, including our children. We don't talk like that in front of our children.
Speaker 1:Well, claire, doesn't I sometimes do?
Speaker 2:I definitely don't.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I remind you when you make a mistake, but when we get together, then it's like another language.
Speaker 1:It is pretty disastrous. It is pretty disastrous when you get a whole bunch of Sea Org members together. They're going to be doing some cursing, yeah, okay, so let's keep going. We got questions. Tracy C, I live in Flint, michigan.
Speaker 2:Yes, Sorry, by the way. Hey Jackson, thanks for joining us. He may or may not have F-bombed in my presence. It's all good, it's all good.
Speaker 1:Tracy C says I live in Flint, michigan, and the Scientology commercial runs all the time. Yeah, I don't know what that's up, I don't. I guess it costs less and in different markets. I don't know. Tracy, the only thing I can think of is that they want to be able to say like they may have. This is very possible and if Mike or Aaron were here they would be able to confirm or deny this. But sometimes Scientology will say hey whale, big donor guy, big Scientology donor guy, we need $5 million to be able to run these Scientology ads and we're going to run them all over the United States for the entire month of February and March or for the whole year or whatever it is. And then that guy might say well, I'm not going to give you the whole five, but I'll give you one. And then they go to four other whales and they get the other 4 million and there's they. They spent nothing. So they could be airing this thing in Flint, where they're very likely. Not only do they not have any big organizations there for people to go to, but they have little or no presence in probably most of the places they would be running these ads. So they are gonna run them, whether they're useful or of any productive value. That could be a whole nother thing, and that's another sort of disservice that Scientology does to its members is they'll spend money to spend the money and do the thing they said they were going to do, even though it doesn't result in any more people in Scientology or clearing the planet or or doing anything that you know. Scientologists are kind of getting hustled to be part of, of getting hustled to be part of, which Aaron has covered a lot on videos on his channel, the kind of things that they're up to that they spend money on, which, at the end of the day, it's just a giant waste of money.
Speaker 1:Maria de Jesus Gutierrez, saving up for my seven day Tom Cruise tickets. I really do want to do the cruise, regardless of if we can, you know, sneak up on the freewinds Scientology's cruise ship or not, but I do think it would be. I think it would be fun and and we pretty amazing. Yeah, and we are, we're not, we weren't joking, we really are going on a cruise and when we go on the cruise we'll find out, we'll scope it out like how it would work and you know, we see organized cruises all the time and when we're on some of these cruises, sometimes we see like a party of 100 people or 200 people that are having some kind of event. So it certainly could be arranged.
Speaker 1:I'm going to run a poll and look for this on my YouTube channel If you're not subscribed. If you subscribe, you'll see the poll when I place it, when I post it, but I'm going to do a poll. Well, I'm going to do a poll. If they want to be part of the poll, they got to sign up. I don't know what to say. I'm going to do a poll of what season, what?
Speaker 1:months what destination and what departure port.
Speaker 2:Okay, good.
Speaker 1:And how many days? Three day, five day, seven day, or I think there's a four day and a five day and a six day. So we'll put all the different options of all those things in various polls and we'll sort of whittle them down and um wouldn't it be fun to do SP bingo?
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, great she's. We're. I'm trying to figure out if and when and where we might do a cruise, and Claire is already working out the games and activities that are going to happen during the week. Um, this is how this goes I'm kind of the big picture. And she wants to make sure they serve this exact kind of drink. Uh called a zine zinu, uh, zinutini or something on the on the ship and, oh my goodness, Okay, luna says it's a new martini.
Speaker 2:That's a good one.
Speaker 1:Just here to throw money and support y'all. Claire, we all know you're the real MVP. Yes, see, there you go. And of course, who do you think stars these questions? Okay, I know, denver Stevo. Okay, headleys, I made it. You can start now. Osa has stanky breath. Uh, yes, denver steve-o, denver steve-o. Uh, denver steve-o. Not a fan of the osa. Um, I think on yesterday's or another thing, he said osa smells like poo. That's it, that's all the super stickers, that's all the chat said was osa smells like poo. Seastorm 1978 super sticker. Thank you, seastorm 1978.
Speaker 2:Let's just throw out a challenge, OSA. We challenge you to blow and come talk to us.
Speaker 1:Okay, vonda Ray, gonna miss you all guys next week. Well, you know, we are still going to be putting out videos. Thanks to the wonderful technology of the interwebs, we've got a bunch of videos and we've got a podcast, a bunch of podcasts all preloaded that are going to hatch next week, and we are preparing to be able to do some lives from the cruise ship. Aaron, myself and Mike are all going to try. Whether we can or not, we won't know until we get there, but we are bringing cameras and lights and tigers and lions and oh my Do I get to be part of that, or it's just the three amigos?
Speaker 1:You can do whatever you want, babe. It's not a dictatorship. Nice, love it. Emma V Hi from Ireland. Hi, you want, babe. It's not a dictatorship. Emma V Hi from Ireland. Hi, hi Ireland. Thank you for all the work both of you do. I think you mentioned Claire had family from Ireland. I was wondering whereabouts.
Speaker 2:So my grandma and grandpa were from Cork Ireland, and they were respectively. So my grandma had 12 siblings, so O'Sullivan, o'leary, yeah, and, and funnily enough, there's a famous Thomas, somebody that was, you know, a few hundred years ago, a big person in Ireland, and that's why they sent my mom to try and smooze in with some people in Cork.
Speaker 1:This is recently, yes, a few years ago. Yeah, your mom, who's still in Scientology.
Speaker 2:Who's still in Scientology, and I saw this picture of her with this big business person in Ireland. So I messaged him and I said hey, it's really great that she's talking to you about her ancestors. Do you know? She's never met her grandchildren and she refuses to talk to me. And so I sent him a copy of Mark's book, and now he messages me all the time we send him Christmas cards. So, yeah, fail, hey, you're muted.
Speaker 1:Sorry, that was the gentleman that Claire's mother was supposed to safe point or like kind of make a safe person for Scientology to be able to deal with over there so they can get in with all the Irish folks over there. Anyway, okay, jefferson Hawkins, hey, hedley's, happy over there. Anyway. Okay, jefferson Hawkins, hey, hedleys, happy Tuesday. Thank you, jeff, happy Tuesday. Yeah, and the Sea Work Tuesday is not celebrated, that is just a regular old day.
Speaker 2:Is there any day that's celebrated in the Sea?
Speaker 1:Work Well. You would never say happy Tuesday in the Sea Organization.
Speaker 2:No, definitely not. Yeah, never say happy Tuesday in the C organization.
Speaker 1:No definitely not. Yeah, tuesday, you know, in Scientology their week ends. This is a really weird thing. In Scientology their end of the week is on Thursday at 2 pm. So whatever you did last week, if you raised $500 worth of book sales or whatever last week, this week before Thursday at 2 pm you have to sell more than 500 books. And so what ends up happening in Scientology is most everybody just kind of does their thing until Wednesday. Most everybody just kind of does their thing until Wednesday. And then on Wednesday you know if you're going to be up or down by tomorrow at 2 pm. So on Wednesdays they have these things.
Speaker 1:And the Sea Org it's very popular, especially at the M-Base, to have an all-nighter. And on Wednesdays if you made 50,000 cassettes last week L Ron Hubbard lecture cassettes last week, you're going to make 50,001 this week. And if you're at like 45,000 and it's the end of the day on Wednesday, you're going to have to stay up all night to make enough to get up over 50,000. So Tuesday is not a big deal. On the Sea Org, wednesdays and Thursdays are almost always just a nightmare. And then they spend all night Thursday tallying up all the statistics of all the organizations all around the world. So, people on Thursday, if you're a big executive, you have an all-nighter on Thursday night.
Speaker 2:But that one has a special name. It's called stat evolution.
Speaker 1:Yes, stat evolution and Scientology does this every single week. They have all-nighters on Wednesday to get the stats up by Thursday, and then Thursday night and into Friday morning. All Sea Org members around the world there's not all of them, but there's units within every Sea Org unit they all stay up all night long to count up statistics for their cont or for their group of organizations or for their area or whatever it is.
Speaker 2:And the management executives specifically stay up to figure out the marching orders for everybody for the next week. Because those have to get out by.
Speaker 1:Friday morning, that's right.
Speaker 2:By the following Thursday at 2 pm, the statistics have risen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, following Thursday at 2 pm, the statistics have risen, yeah, and they have to analyze the statistics to figure out what the battle plan is for the next week.
Speaker 2:And what condition people are in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and what condition? Based on Scientology, administrative policies? Which condition determines the formula that you need to apply? Which then determines your battle plan?
Speaker 2:And all of this takes up from Thursday at two, pretty much until.
Speaker 1:Friday when you have staff meeting, and then this is so great We've never really gone through this, it's in my book in excruciating detail. But then on friday you have staff meeting and that could last from like after dinner sometime until the end of the night or late, late into the night yeah, and and what was the format?
Speaker 2:again, it was like flaps and hand flaps and handling.
Speaker 1:So anyone yeah, anyone in the org who has a flap, like something that went wrong, like uh texan and I were talking about that in the interview that's coming out okay, next week yeah perfect
Speaker 1:yeah anyway, you have flaps and handlings, so anything that might have happened like, uh, let's say, a tree fell down on a piece of heavy equipment that would be a flap. The handling is we're going to go through and trim all the trees and make sure there's none that are about to fall down. This is a real thing that actually happened. That's the only reason why I already know what the handling is. And then after, and oh and flaps and handlings.
Speaker 2:But flaps would also be like if somebody escaped. Like for my position. Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:It would be like, because I went over staff training, they would say we've had some blows, yep. And then they'd say what the handlings are to make it so more people don't escape.
Speaker 2:But hold on. I got to ask you a question Because remember, at Golden Era Productions staff meeting they used to always play that money song what was that? Where the coins would roll.
Speaker 1:Pink Floyd yeah, to always play that money song. What was that? Where the coins would roll? Pink Floyd yeah, they would play that. They would play that during when somebody who was talking about their plan to make money. They would play that song while they were talking about. This is what we're going to do to raise some money to sell e-meters or sell lectures or sell CDs or whatever it was. We sold it Golden Era.
Speaker 2:And didn't they also used to play the Make it Go?
Speaker 1:Right, song, yes, we did. I was trying to go through the schedule, not do a whole video on staff meetings. It's so cringeworthy. Okay, we should do. Let's do this. We're gonna do this Each week.
Speaker 1:We'll talk about a different thing that happened on a different day at the base when we do these. But for now we're just going to do the schedule. So staff meeting goes until the, so essentially Thursday at 2 o'clock. That's when we do stat evolution. We stay up all night Fridays when we figure out all the stuff we got to do by the time people get to like okay, it's time to work. Well, now we have to have staff meeting. So then we have staff meeting.
Speaker 1:Now Saturday is what's at the base. I don't know how it is. Every Sea Org base is different, but at the base Saturday we had renovations and every single person on the property was supposed to participate in doing renovations of the entire property. So if we're building a new film lab or we're building a cinematography castle or building an office building, you build the building with concrete blocks and stone, veneer and studs and electrical. Sea Org members would do a lot of that work with the help of a general contractor. Okay, now that takes all day Saturday, so you're not getting any work done on Saturday.
Speaker 2:And you're working out in the hot sun In the desert. All day long in the desert, with, most often, very little sleep, which is going to set up your next statement Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Okay, so now you work all day and for the most of the period that we lived at the international base, we didn't live at the base, we lived in apartments or we lived to houses right next to the property. So a majority of the crew would have to go, get bused to take a shower and change and they would change into what's called up stat civvies. So remember I talked about everybody has to make more than they did last week and that those are all counted as statistics. Well, if you're a down statistic, that's like a bad person or poor or homeless person, and if you're up statistic, or about to become homeless yeah.
Speaker 1:If you're up statistic, that's somebody who's productive and makes things and is wealthy or well to do so. You wear civvies, civilian clothes, and they have to be up stat civvies. So not like a t-shirt and shorts, like some dress slacks and maybe a button down shirt.
Speaker 2:No, flip flops.
Speaker 1:Something nice no flip flops, no bell bottoms or any you know any D-Gen clothing.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know you say that, but some Sea Org members hadn't been clothes shopping in 30 years. This is true.
Speaker 1:Some Sea Org members had like one or two outfits besides their uniform. And some of these, oh my goodness, Do you remember Josh and Gladys? This dude- Josh. It was like you'd been frozen in a time capsule, what's called Source Night, and at Source Night you listen to a lecture from Source, which is L Ron Hubbard.
Speaker 2:Because, of course, it makes perfect sense, because he's the source of Scientology.
Speaker 1:So you listen to a lecture and everyone on the property, all dressed up, comes and listen to this L Ron Hubbard lecture. Okay Now, just from what I've explained to you, from Wednesday to Saturday leads up to the most popular activity at Source Night, while a thousand people are sitting still in chairs listening to an old guy give a lecture from the 1950s or 60s in his fuddy-duddy, long-winded nomenclature. You've been up all night. On Wednesday, you were up all night counting stats. On on thursday he, kind of like, came around by friday, did this long staff meeting and then you built, you did rough construction all day saturday. So everybody's sitting in these chairs sleeping while this lecture is playing L Ron Hubbard. But there's a problem.
Speaker 2:But we have transcripts, and the real art was in how expert people could get at hiding the fact that they were sound asleep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Now you had a transcript, because in Scientology you're never allowed to go past a misunderstood word.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, and so I had a glossary too.
Speaker 1:So the transcript. You could follow along with L Ron Hubbard while he's talking. You could follow along, and then if you didn't understand a word he said you could look it up in the glossary. Okay, so everyone has this thick sheaf of paper. It could be 50, 60 pages, because the lectures say it's 40 pages, double sided, and the glossary could be 20 pages. And so it's. It's thick thing of that was printed just for this lecture that we're going to listen to right now. And then there's a thousand people, so they all have this thing. It's a it's.
Speaker 2:And most of most of these lectures were at least an hour right At least, at least sometimes they could be an hour and a half lecture was like very rare.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So one to two hours well, it would be 45 minutes aside, because that's how long a cassette could One of the cassettes we made, which was a thick metal tape, blah, blah, blah, blah. It could be about an hour and a half Anyway, if but there were sleep snitches everywhere. So if you slept next to a sleep snitch, then they would write a report on you that you fell asleep, and sometimes the sleep snitches would write a report and it would have 100 people on it. So they would literally and this is the best part Instead of listening to the lecture like you're supposed to, or sleep like is generally done, this person not listening to the lecture, just looking for people that's sleeping and writing their names down so they can write a report on them.
Speaker 2:And which brings me to a very important question.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:How many times did I sleep? Snitch on you, honey.
Speaker 1:I don't recall she's trying to get some brownie points for snitching on me for other things. Anyway, I'm just making a point. But the best part is that if you were really expert at sleeping and not getting caught, there was one way that you would rat yourself out, and that's if you fell asleep and you lost your grip on your transcript or your which would happen very often and it would hit the ground.
Speaker 1:And it's so quiet in there, and as soon as it would hit the ground, everybody was like you're done, dude, you were sleeping anyway. So then this is the best part. This is the best part. We just got to saturday. So saturday ends. Now sunday morning. You get three hours to shit, shower and shave and do your laundry.
Speaker 1:So speak for yourself get clean, clean yourself, clean your room, do your laundry, and then at noon it's back to work. That's the three hours you get off. A week is those three hours and you're supposed to do your laundry and all that stuff. Now most people will stay up late on Saturday and do their laundry and clean up a little, and then sleep in on Sunday morning and then go to post after lunch. Okay, so now Sunday after lunch is the first day of the week where you're actually probably going to get some work done, but it's a short day because after dinner you're supposed to go to study. Oh, that was the other thing I forgot. Every single one of these days you're supposed to do two and a half hours of study for at least a total of five days a week. Every Sea Org member is supposed to study 12 and a half hours a week, or five days for two and a half hours each, or you could do two, fives in a two and a half whatever, as long as you do 12 and a half hours of study or counseling. Not a lot of people did counseling. Not a lot of people went to study, because you're not allowed to study or do counseling if you haven't slept and so if you don't sleep, you get extra work time. So Sunday you go to study after dinner and then Monday is the first full day of week of the week you're going to have to work, is the first full day of the week you're going to have to work, and then you have Tuesday and before you know it we're back to Wednesday. So really the work week starts on Monday and ends on Wednesday in Scientology, because they have so much busy work for you to do the whole rest of the week.
Speaker 1:I don't even know how we got to that from a question, but Dirty Little Cracker Liquor. The second says of the week. I don't even know how we got to that from a question, but dirty little cracker liquor. The second says oh, and if we, if you haven't cut off the questions, we're done with the questions. Whatever's in here, now we're going to answer and then, um, otherwise we're going to. Uh, we've got a lot of questions. So there's at least 60 questions, uh, right now that are started. Dirty, a little cracker liquor. The II says Claire, when you have to fight with Mark, have you ever gone? Tommy Davis, on Mark, you don't have the rank to talk to me like that. No, I have the rank. That's why she would never say that. No, that's not why I would never say it. I don't think we fight like that. That's kind of silly. Kitty Mom, what are the names of your cats and dogs?
Speaker 2:I got that one. We have two dogs, Bella and Max, and we have two kitties, Oreo and Jazzy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, somebody sent us the most common dog names.
Speaker 2:Male Max, female Bella are the two most popular dog names and just happens to be the dog names that we have have oh, and the best part is, the salamander's name is dart yes, that is the best part.
Speaker 1:Now we're bought, could you talk about how c-org interacts with public scientology? I am interested in understanding the relationships between two parts of the cult. Um well, we didn't work. We didn't work at a Sea Org service organization, and that is a Scientology organization where the Sea Org members are delivering courses to the Scientology public and the parishioners doing counseling or supervising courses. But we did essentially have that at the base. Claire worked in the division of Golden Era Productions, that is, delivering counseling and auditing to the staff, and then she worked in RTC after that, which most members of RTC don't really interact with public Scientology public in any way, except for a few posts which receive reports from Scientologists.
Speaker 2:But other than that. Well, no, because I did when I was training as an RTC representative.
Speaker 1:Yeah, In Florida.
Speaker 2:Yeah, florida, yeah, and that's where I met aaron.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so so in the c-org organizations, um, the c-org members are just like they would be at a regular scientology org like, let's say, atlanta or, uh, miami. Um, those staff members are doing a job of counseling and auditing and getting the mail and, you know, routing internal dispatches and just like any other kind of company, a finance or accounts department and guys that pay the bills and pay the staff and all those sort of things. But in a C-Org organization those people are the billion year contract guys. They they're the ones that have signed up for a billion years. And in Miami or Atlanta or whatever, those guys have a two and a half or a five year contract.
Speaker 1:So after two and a half years they can say, yeah, uh, I'm going to go to college or I'm going, I'm moving. Yeah, I'm going to go to college or I'm going, I'm moving. So I got to, I I'm, I'm not going to renew my contract or whatever amazing excuse you can come up with to not keep doing it. Cause they don't make. In some cases staff members of Scientology organizations make even less than the Sea Org, where we were paid $45 a week. Sometimes staff make even less than that and because they have another job, that's kind of like their side hustle or they moonlight. They may even have a whole nother job that they do Like they could be an Uber driver every other second of the day that they're not at the Org.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because they have to come up with living costs.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, sea Org members, your room and your board are paid for by the Sea organization. The staff members they have to pay their own way, which is kind of a no-brainer. If you were Scientology, just buy an apartment building or some sort of staff housing and let staff members stay there for a reduced rate or something, and that way, if they didn't make any money, they'd be okay. Hopefully I answered that If Hulk Hogan joined the Sea Org, would GM have the balls to lay a finger on him? Well, first of all, hulk Hogan could never join the Sea Org. In order to join the Sea organization there are um certain qualifications or restrictions. You can't have done a lot of different drugs, um and um. You have to be like a really dedicated scientologist first off and have done some in most cases some Scientology courses. I know it varies by place to place and in some C organization locations they'll just hire anybody that just say, hey, we'll give you a job and we'll pay you, and then the person does everything and the person's like, hey, when am I going to get paid? They're like, oh, here's 45 bucks. I'm like what? And then they leave. It's like the craziest thing. They don't tell the people they're not going to get paid or they're not going to get this here. They make all these weird promises and then when that person finds out, they may leave or they may just be like, eh, I'm not homeless, I'll just stay here. Yeah, so Evelyn super sticker. Thank you, evelyn, I appreciate it. Thank you, I think, evelyn super sticker. Thank you, evelyn, appreciate it. Thank you, I think Evelyn was here on another chat. I remember that thumbnail.
Speaker 1:Tess Engfors says how about SP Cruz, caribbean for seven days? I love it, I want to do it. The more people talk about it, the more excited I get about it. Stacey Y, can I throw out a gone for goods on the side of the cup but have a K a cracker liquors on the bottom? Just because HR sucks at COS, not the case everywhere. That is very funny. Gone the, gone for goods. I like the gone for goods. That's a good one. You know that's only that's one of the few names I've heard. The gone for goods. I like that. Gone For Goods, gone For Goods. It's got a good ring to it. Thank you, stacey, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Thanks.
Speaker 1:Stacey, we've got to keep a list of all these requests for merch that we've got. Will you release more secret SP knowledge? Once all the SP channels are Sandhill size, it'll be faster.
Speaker 2:You know I'm the are are sane hill size it'll be faster.
Speaker 1:You know I'm the alchemist is a frequent flyer here. Always great comments. Thank you, loopy, that's a good one. Um, you know I've been trying to get to these spy files, um, but scientology keeps doing things and I have to do. I do have to spend a bit of time documenting and meeting with people there. There's a lot of back behind the scenes stuff that has to happen when Scientology starts getting active on the nonsense that they do. So that has cut in to my content time, while also providing content. I don't, if you, if you, get what I mean. Whenever Scientology messes with us, it does make more content, but it does also create other sort of work that I would rather not have to do, kind of work. Okay, natalie Scott, y'all excited for Friday because you have vacation next week.
Speaker 1:Me too, yay for the real world and fun vacations.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Natalie you're hearing what I'm putting down.
Speaker 1:Yes, natalie, that's another thing. So in the Sea Org they say when you join the Sea Org that you're going to be allowed a two week leave annually. I think in the 15 years that I was there was there. I want to say I may take in a total of 15 days off, like on a on a leave of absence 15 days.
Speaker 2:I think my total was eight days. Cause we for the whole time. Yeah, Including cause we took off for two days to get married.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, that's what I was thinking. I had that.
Speaker 2:I visited my grandma, I think, for four days in Greenville, south Carolina and then we visited my grandma that one time she came to LA for like three or four days. I don't remember any other than that and it wasn't never. It was never vacation, it was always super stressful and cause we had no money anyway. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, the other thing is, in order to go on a leave, you have to get an interrogation, and the interrogation is called a going on leave sec check. So it's a going on leave security check and you're just grilled endlessly on if you plan to escape while you're on your leave.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And if they determine that you, if you can't finish the security check, so in order to, essentially, if you get a security check, you finish when there ain't no more secrets to tell. That's when you're done.
Speaker 2:And not only that, but you then, after you've passed that interrogation, then is when you have to get approval from at least seven different people.
Speaker 1:Yes, you have to sign off and if you don't have that written sign off, security won't let you off the property. It has to be all the way to the senior officer. The commanding officer of your Sea Org unit has to personally approve that you're allowed to go for that time period. And so, in order to go on a leave, it's almost more work than the leave will even be worth that. The amount of work we just yeah, the amount of work that we just explained, could take six months for you to get through.
Speaker 2:Huge deterrent to taking any time off. It seriously was very painful.
Speaker 1:If everything went perfectly, a regular average ImpBase staff member could pull that off in several months, and then they'd also have to. The sun will have to shine out of your backside If you're like me or you're like causing trouble here and there. You ain't going on, no leave and you're definitely not going to. You're not going to get through that sec check.
Speaker 2:And don't forget, you also have to figure out somebody else to cover your position while you're gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and your statistics have to be uh, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. Now, this is the most amazing part. If you do get to go on the leave and for some insane reason, you do not escape, because that's when the chant you got the chance. Um, if you don't escape, when you get back, guess what you have to do? A returning from leave sec check. You have to get another interrogation of all the shit you did when you were on leave that you shouldn't have done, or the people that you shouldn't have talked to.
Speaker 2:Or God forbid that while you were gone you thought you know what Life is good out here.
Speaker 1:Maybe I should not go back. God forbid.
Speaker 2:You should have a thought like that.
Speaker 1:Yes, anyway, it is so if they don't get you on the way out, they're going to get you on the way back. Oh, my goodness, interrogations for everything. Yep. Ava J Porter. Ava Joy Porter. Thank you, super sticker. Thank you, ava um. Ava j porter. Ava joy porter. Thank you, super sticker. Thank you ava um handmade lisa marchbank's dragonfish. Handmade goods. But we could still go on an sp cruise together. Yes, so, oh, that was the whole point of that whole nonsense was um we never went on vacation we never went on vacations.
Speaker 1:Now we have like a two or three vacation a year policy which we've been pretty good about keeping up over the past, I'd say five or 10 years.
Speaker 2:Particularly with our kids, since they don't stop growing ever so yeah.
Speaker 1:BFG big, friendly giant. When I first heard Mike referred to Mark BFG on the F on the fair game podcast I thought that's a bit mean. He's not that big, but I am. But I really, but I really am. Um love it, standing strong with you all, as always. Thank you, love it. Thank you, love it. Um, grounded in truth. How worried should I be for filming myself in front of the gold base a few weeks ago? Thanks for sharing all the truth. I wouldn't really worry about it. I mean, at the end of the day, let's say, you drive to the base and you take some pictures and they find out where you are, who you are, where you are. Ok, what are they going to do? I mean, you took a picture.
Speaker 2:And just because you did that is not a guarantee that they will do that.
Speaker 1:No, there's a lot. With all the stuff that's going on, I can't imagine how they have a time to do anything. They're transcribing this video.
Speaker 2:Poor Issa man. It's a joke. Just get out of there and come talk to us, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think you're okay, grounded. Okay, the Pickles and Bacon Show that's a new one. Hi Mark, hi Claire. Does Tom Cruise know that the Keebler Elf talks so much smack about him and records him without permission? Also, come on our podcast, the Pickles and Bacon Show. That's awesome. Um, does Tom Cruise know? I don't know. I think, um, I don't think he does. I think if Tom knew what Dave was up to, I don't think they'd be as good, as good of friends as they are I. That's what I think If he knew he was. Like tom cruise specifically said do not record me when I go in these auditing sessions, and we specifically set up those rooms to record him. So, um, it is what it is a video with mary demas.
Speaker 1:Think she'd ever do it? No, she's not interested in doing the scientology stuff anymore. Um and uh, every time I've heard from her she is trying. Her name's not even. She doesn't even go by that name anymore. That's how like much she doesn't want it. She has changed her name completely. So that you would. It would be very it would be hard to find her. I'm sure if you're like somebody paid you you could do it. But Ann Burrow, I wish I could give six year old hug a Claire.
Speaker 2:Your story touched me, I could Claire a hug.
Speaker 1:What did I say?
Speaker 2:You said six year old, hug a Claire.
Speaker 1:Same difference. I could never leave my girls much love. Yeah, I could never. I don't. I seriously I don't know how our parents just signed us off Just like yeah.
Speaker 2:There you go. Thank you, ann, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Stephen Britton Nothing to say, just saying hi, hi, stephen, appreciate it. Amanda Mangles as a US Navy veteran, it's frustrating that LRH uses all those Navy ranks and terms for this cult. Love watching SPTV. I'm hooked and tune in every time. Thank you, amanda. Yeah, we mean no disrespect, we were just in a cult and that's all the stuff they had when we got there. So, yeah, it is ridiculous and we really did have like ranks and ratings and campaign ribbons and all kinds of nonsense which, more and more, they've kind of been doing away with over the years and they're not so strict on it, but it is ridiculous. Maxwell Edison's mom just wanted to give Goldie some love.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Maxwell Edison. Thank you, Goldie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, goldie wasn't here like 10 minutes ahead of time and everybody was like losing their minds. I was like, if she shows, she shows Like, come on, give the gal a break. Sptv made me a better driver. Okay, because I don't know why. But okay, okay, thank you, appreciate it. I'm not sure why it made him a better driver.
Speaker 2:We might have missed the context there.
Speaker 1:Maybe 86 GOP says this question is for you appreciate it. I'm not sure why it made him a better driver. Miss the context there, maybe. Yeah, um, 86 gop says this question is for both of you. During your time at the base, did you ever see bm I mean dm break something during a thyroid and then blame someone else for the damage?
Speaker 2:yes yeah absolutely in fact. Uh, one time he was attacking his brother physically and his brother passed out. And then Dave Miscavige had his brother, who he'd attacked, interrogated to get him to admit that he had intentionally passed out.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's a, that's a, that's a normal day at the base. Also David Miscavige. He has really sensitive, flaky skin and it's really thin. He really does have thin skin and he would throw things and when he would throw them he would cut his hands. So like if he threw a file folder or he threw a ream of paper or a stack of a pencil cup or something, he would almost invariably cut his hand and then he would blame you for him cutting his hand because he had to throw something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or he would tell the the execs all the time that that, um, he was just PTS and they were the SPs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Potential trouble source yeah, yeah, okay, mark, if that amazing person is you. I couldn't tell oh Okay, Again, we might be missing the context there. It could have been when I said if you didn't escape, yeah right.
Speaker 1:Sorry, Scott, I forgot what I said and why that should matter. Jay Dice, while still in, did it ever occur to you that the Sea Org's imitation of a Navy is kind of silly, Ever discuss or hear it discussed by Scientologists? Or was that just far too unthinkable, slash, dangerous? It is kind of something that you really wouldn't bring up because it was L Ron Hubbard who was supposedly a master mariner seaman.
Speaker 2:Blah, blah, blah and that was sort of the funniest was a few times I got approached like if I went to the mall in the naval uniform. A few times people would come up to me and be like do you work for the Salvation Army? Like no.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yeah, you're right. We did think it was ridiculous that we were wearing wool navy pants in the summer in the middle of the. California desert and after many years they did change to shorts and we were wearing JCrew kind of like short sleeve shirts and, depending on where you worked, the kind of uniforms kind of moved away from the Navy style Because even though there's tradition and it used to be based in the Navy, we're in the California desert now. Can we wear something desert appropriate please?
Speaker 2:We're not even close to the ocean.
Speaker 1:It was funny. That place was set up, I want to say in the late 70s and it took until the mid 90s to the 2000s for them to adapt to the climate.
Speaker 2:Ridiculous.
Speaker 1:Okay, thank you, jay, dice, Marilyn, hi, mark and Claire. I just subscribed to Tori Christman's YouTube channel. I didn't know she had one. She's another amazing SP for your SPTV network.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Tori, absolutely. Tori has been going strong for many, many years and we actually, when we lived in Los Angeles, we lived just right down the street from her in Burbank and we went to parties at Tori's house and met up with her at different events and protests of a Scientology organization here and there and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2:Amazing lady right there. I have her on my list.
Speaker 1:Yes, thoughtquake. The photo shows giant red survey stakes that represent the border between the Canadian prairie provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan saskatchewan um the photo okay I don't know what photo. Sorry about that quake. Um, not sure. Wait to get some context. What about channels unrelated to scientology or cults? Elise Lynch, no, I'm not going to give other channels unrelated to Scientology or cults.
Speaker 2:You have to earn the SP label.
Speaker 1:SP labels Panko Supersticker. Thank you, panko Quinn Supersticker. Thank you, tamara Supersticker. Thank you.
Speaker 2:The Scrapbooker.
Speaker 1:Would love to hear more from the people who have escaped that haven't written books. I think that would be interesting. Keep up the good work and have a great vacation next week. You deserve it. Thank you, scrapbooker. Um, yeah, claire is doing. Yeah, so claire is doing. She's doing interview with jay uh jackson he doesn't have a book. She's done interviews with mark fisher he doesn't have a book. She is doing an interview with jeff hawkins he does have a book. She's done interviews with Mark Fisher he doesn't have a book. She is doing an interview with Jeff Hawkins he does have a book, but he was also three books.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he has three books, but he was also in Scientology for like 30, 30, 30, 37 years and for a very good amount of that time he was a rock star in a lot of the marketing and the promotional areas and has lots and lots and lots of stories. Um, but Claire has, I think I want to say you have like 10 or 15 people lined up to do interviews with.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah. And most of those people haven't written my outline of my book.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so we're doing it, we're doing it.
Speaker 2:We're working on it. We're bringing you as much content as we possibly can, while while not pulling all nighters.
Speaker 1:Shay, look at, he has his own little SPTV network. So if you want your own SPTV network. Do what Shay did he made one, sent it to us and kept it for himself as well Perfect In early 2000s in early 2000s I found the OT levels on Clambake. Clambake is a website called Operation Clambake. It was hosted outside US to avoid copyright. Not there anymore. Are they posted anywhere now? Clambake is still live. I went to it just a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2:It's OCMB right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's called. Well, that's the message board. Ocmb is Operation Clambake Message Board. Oh, that's right, which is where Clambake is the very first place I posted as Blown for Good, but I think it's still there. Maybe the OT levels aren't there anymore. I'm not sure where they are and I'm certainly not hosting them, but if you find them, let us know.
Speaker 2:They are definitely online. They're definitely places yeah.
Speaker 1:Dallas Marita Super sticker.
Speaker 2:Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1:Denver, steve. Oh, do you have a list of all the TV shows, slash movies that the two of you have appeared on? You can never have too much Claire and Mark, but mostly Claire. If you go to my IMDP page, I think it has the movies I've worked on. I'm not sure if the things I've been in. That's a good point. We should maybe update that to put my Scientology movie and that dangerous persuasions thing and yeah we did the the Australian four corners and we did.
Speaker 1:Scientology and me you know when we do the blown for good. We're right now we're doing the SP shop. After we're done with the SP shop, we're going to do the blown for good website. By the way, scientology has been trying to hack the blown for good website. We found some craziness on there a few weeks ago and now somebody actually emailed me with some of the behind the scenes um sort of Google food they've been doing in the background to try and figure out what's going on.
Speaker 2:But uh, and they didn't actually hack the site.
Speaker 1:They did. They did something called cyber squatting, which is they kind of parked a bunch of stuff all around it, so if somebody typed in the wrong thing, it would end you'd end up on a Scientology website.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I'm just saying they didn't get the context, otherwise you're going to make people think yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, they didn't get. They didn't get any information from us or get or get into the site, but they did make it so like. So if you type in blownforgood forward, slash merch, you'd end up on a Scientology site, not blownforgood. So we're fixing the blownforgood site and when we do that we'll make a media list of all the shows and things that we've ever been on and that way it's all in one place. Thanks, denver, steve-o.
Speaker 2:Thank you Denver, Steve-O.
Speaker 1:Lunar 35. Do the podcasts contain different content than YouTube? Are there going to be more Claire stories? Thank you both. Right now they're almost achieving parody of the podcast to what's been on YouTube. There is some stuff on YouTube that's not on the podcast and there likely will be some stuff on the podcast that won't be on YouTube. We just haven't got there yet, but people wanted a podcast so we put it on a podcast. Some people like that format better, so almost all the content you're getting here will eventually end up there. But for now, youtube is the main channel and there might be some stuff there that doesn't end up on YouTube.
Speaker 1:If it's audio only, I'll likely just leave it there. And somebody wanted me to put, um, my book on Spotify. The spot, the podcast, the blown for good podcast, is on Spotify and a lot of stories in the book are in the podcast. So, um, I sell the book on audible. So if I give it away on Spotify, it's kind of like eh, I'm trying to get something out of all this nonsense all this 15 years I wasted in the Sea Org. Lunar 35,. Do the podcast contain?
Speaker 1:You already did that one, lunar 35, did the question. There we go, casey, casey.
Speaker 2:Isaac Cassie.
Speaker 1:Is it Cassie? Cassie, just wanted to say hi and thank you for all you do and go through in order to help others. The hardships are not in vain and we're happy here for you. Yes, thank you, casey.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Cassie.
Speaker 1:Cassie Casey. There's certain names. You know there's Stephanie Hutchinson. For the longest time I would say Stefani, just because it's fun. But every time I would say her name I'd say Stefani. Oh, stefani's here.
Speaker 2:I always hate it when people call me Clary. I'm like really, it's obviously Claire.
Speaker 1:Lily Castle says I vote for Claire Bears and Cracker Lickers. I like Claire Bears and Cracker Lickers. That does have a nice ring to it. Yeah, yeah, you don't have to be dirty. Cracker liggers, the Loopy Alchemist are whales aware that they are called whales by Scientology? I think so. I don't think whales is a Scientology only. Thanks, loopy Alchemist. I don't think whales is exclusive to Scientology for what they call their big donors Casinos. Other organizations call their big donors casinos. Other organizations call big donors whales. Brandy heard Mark say DM's dog was sent to the doggy RPF. Yes, what did they do to him? What does that entail? He was abused. Could he have just neutered him he could have just neutered him.
Speaker 1:His dog, david Miscavige, is at the where the RTC buildings were. Right next to those there's a clipper ship. It's called the Star of California Clipper Ship. It's a giant ship. It's in the middle of the desert and it's the deck of the pool was made into the deck of this ship. And then there's a pool right there and then there's these giant masts with sails on them and the whole thing. And at that pool is where a whole family of peacocks used to live and Buster David Miscavige's Dalmatian slash, I think pit bull mix. He ripped the heads off of all the peacocks and he didn't eat them or anything, he just ripped their heads off and then put their heads next to their dead carcasses. And after that and he had bitten people and he'd done a bunch of other things I think he built a bit an elderly woman and after he built the elderly woman who worked in the film editing department. Her name was sheila freeberry sheila freeberry.
Speaker 1:Um. She was bringing a proposal of an editing or some kind of film proposal up to david miscavige's office and his dog bit this old woman and um didn't she have.
Speaker 2:She had to go to the er and get it pretty shot.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure she did have to go to the emergency room and get treated and after that that dog went to the dog RPF and the dog RPF is in the same place where Shelly got sent. It's at the Church of Spiritual Technology up in Crestline, which has just got a blizzard over the last few days after having a blizzard a few days before that.
Speaker 2:And don't forget Buster blizzard a few days before that. And don't forget, buster had quite a big ethics folder too. People would write reports on him.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, he was a dog who had its own ethics folder. People would write reports on a dog. That's how ridiculous Scientology is. They write reports on dogs. It literally said Buster and it was sent to Eth ethics rtc. That's how ridiculous this place is. Odalis, marid marita uh, how do you suggest someone who has work for the scientology, who feels targeted by a scientologist for years, to handle the situation, need advice, please. Who's someone who has worked for Scientology? You got to just start and do other things in like a non Scientology kind of. I would just slowly transition away from the people that you worked for in Scientology, if you can. There's not really a good way to pull that band-aid off. If you're still going to be around those people, you got to kind of play along to get along until your resources and your, your living situation, your work situation, is not dependent on you speaking or playing nice with them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but good luck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, good luck with that. The pickles and the bacon show come on our show, but whatever happened to the crazy lady who claimed she was DM's egg slave?
Speaker 2:I know what they're talking about. We don't know that woman, so I think she has problems.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:I mean, we just never heard of her.
Speaker 1:Oh, you mean the woman who had kids with Dave. Oh yeah, this story. I've read this story. I think this person's emailed me or I've been sent a copy of this thing. This is 100% farcical. Like I don't think it could possibly be true and if it is, it would be the craziest story I've ever heard.
Speaker 2:In my case, I actually asked her pointed questions to give her the benefit of the doubt. Yeah, she never answered one.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, so there's a lady going around claim that she was an egg slave for David, like she was locked up somewhere and you know his concubine or something, I don't know. I don't. I don't think there's any truth to any of that that I could tell. Please consider how to include budget range in poll. Yes, sorry, that was. One of the things I was going to include was the various cruise lines. So one of the polls was going to be like Carnival, which is kind of like the least expensive cruises you could go on, and then it goes like Norwegian and Royal, and then you get into crazy time, which is like a Disney or celebrity or I don't know, but Disney would be the only.
Speaker 1:Even I can't afford to go on a Disney cruise, or or I'm not willing. I might be able to afford it, but I'm not willing to spend that much money on a cruise.
Speaker 2:We can go on five vacations for the price of one.
Speaker 1:I'm all over for the cruise. Just ordered a Mike Rinder bobblehead. I go to DC a lot. I emailed for the business cards. I have the cruise out of Baltimore Cool. Thank you, nice. Lily Castle, my husband and I write books together. He is big picture and I handle the details as well. Isn't it great that we aren't all the same.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1:As an extremely suppressive person, I need to go on a cruise regularly. I love Royal Caribbean because the food is so good. Their seven-day Caribbean are awesome. Yes, Royal Caribbean. We also like Royal and I think we've been on Norwegian once. Yeah, and I think we've been on Norwegian Once. Yeah, oh, here we go. Amidon says make it a booze cruise and give a prize to whoever gets a landscape picture of a bobble mic next to passed out. Mark, oh, that would be so fun, zinutini, lol, I drink that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, zinutini. Lol, I drink that Nice me too. Zinutini, I'm in for that.
Speaker 1:Got your book yesterday. Very easy read, great storytelling. Hard to put down, hi Osa.
Speaker 2:Thank you, amy, thank you, amy, appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my book's not hard to read. I didn't go to school so it wasn't like I was going to write something that was hard to read, because I don't know that many words. Henry A Long III. I thought I heard Claire revert to her native accent a couple of times. Does she turn that off and on at will? No, there's certain words like aluminum. I do not say that you always say that Insulation.
Speaker 2:I say aluminum, she does that. I say tore Instead of tour.
Speaker 1:Anyway, sometimes you say aluminum, she does that. I say tour Instead of tour. Anyway, sometimes you say potato.
Speaker 2:I say potato. You say tomato, I say tomato, but my accent will not come back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the accent doesn't come through. Every once in a while she says a word like just a little off tilt kilter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I tripped over one a little bit ago and I was like oops.
Speaker 1:Yeah, kitty and Lou, ever, claire and Blue Jobs and Blue. Claire and Blue and Job.
Speaker 2:Shots Blue Job Shots.
Speaker 1:Ever Claire and Blue Job Shots.
Speaker 2:I get it.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Kitty and Lou Almost have the new craft room set up. When I do the new craft room set up when I do the first craft project is a cross stitch that says hi osa, watch the mail nice, awesome thank you crafting emily oh my goodness, we will be for me okay, as long as you are not in a speedo bub that says that's from jackson.
Speaker 1:Um, claire probably had. Claire is freezing up, uh, a little bit on my end, but um, she doesn't close any of the applications on her computer on a regular basis. So she could have 47 apps running right now and it could kind of be jamming up her feet a little bit, but um, she looks good right now, so it's fine. Gary says as long as you are not in a speedo. But speedo bub, I don't, I'm not a speedo where.
Speaker 1:I don't know if anybody's ever known that about me, but I do not wear the banana hammocks, I am a board shorts kind of guy. Jim Herman says are you going on the cruise to celebrate L run Hubbard's birthday? You know, I did realize that that it will be L Ron Hubbard's birthday. We're on the cruise and no, we don't care about that. Hub tard dude. And um, we're not. Uh, we're not really concerned about when his birthday is, except for I was trying to get as many subscribers, but I I did figure out a? Um a cheat in the birthday game, which is I'm ahead of Mike Rinder, so I can't be third place now, so I will get silver in the birthday game on the podium and Mike Rinder will have to take the bronze and Aaron will get the gold, but I'm happy with that.
Speaker 2:Second place is there's. There's six days left. It's not March 13th yet.
Speaker 1:I it ain't over yet. Well, if mike wins before, then that'll be amazing and I'll be happy for him. So there, I know, I know. So even if I lose, I still win. Um did dm really in every message to mike render with y s d o h b. It was some very uh, it was some variation of that. It was Y-S-C-O-H-B and you have to go to Mike's website. Just if you Google that, I think it'll show up on Mike Rinder's blog. But a lot of them. Yes, dave was very vulgar like that. Dave Miscavige was very vulgar and wrote horrible things to many people.
Speaker 2:And it got worse and worse as the years went on.
Speaker 1:Oh, thursday to local time, or what time basis? Yes, it was Thursday at two local time and that was a hack. So sometimes if you worked at an org that was in the Western United States, you could still get money from somebody in the East Coast and if it was before to your time it would still count, even though where the money came from was already passed, the week had already ended where they were. But yes, it was 3 pm or it was 2 pm local and that's why they had to stay up all night in the Sea Org is because, even though 2 o'clock in East US they could start their stat evolution, the week is still going on in West US and as it kind of moved where weeks would continue to end, then you could collect up all the statistics and you couldn't end until the last time zone had had their 2 pm.
Speaker 1:Yep, good question, dave Wilhauer. Have you all been on Royal Caribbean big ships? They have seven nights for a grand. Prices are great. Now, since COVID Might be able to get the group discount, we'll check it out.
Speaker 2:Thank you for the comment.
Speaker 1:We will check it out. This guy really wants us to go on a Royal Caribbean We'll get the research going.
Speaker 2:Thank, you.
Speaker 1:It's going to really depend on who can afford to go. Of course, there's a whole bunch of riches in here. Just go on whatever cruise they want, but some people, you know, a thousand bucks is a lot of money to some people. And who gets to go and do they take the kids? And if and to be honest I think if we do do this, very likely it's going to be on carnival, because carnival is very inexpensive. It might not be the best, but it is the most inexpensive and that would make it for more people to be able to come.
Speaker 2:So, I'm.
Speaker 1:I would love to do it on Royal or even Norwegian, but I'm kind of thinking it's going to go the route of Carnival. Catherine asks how long did it take to slow down your eating? Are you still faster than people who would ever SO? Oh, 100 percent. Faster than people who would ever SO? Oh, 100%. I think I probably could take. I could probably take 15, 20 minutes to eat now. I think I could do that. You know, the way I slow down now is if we go to a restaurant, we'll all go slow. If we eat at the house, I eat in five minutes. Claire knows this. I'll eat a whole plate of food in five minutes.
Speaker 2:I'll be good and the only reason you eat slower at the restaurant is because we talk in between. That's right.
Speaker 1:That's my hack when we go to the restaurant, is I just yap?
Speaker 1:I just yap full time and then I eat. When there's like more food, like if the app is still there, I'm like, oh, I got to eat this appetizer. And then the food comes, and then I just yap, and then if I see my plate is still full and everyone else is starting to get empty, then I'll take a few seconds and I'll inhale all the food. Thank you, catherine S. Oh, catherine S again. Well, theoretically you can leave after your contract.
Speaker 1:The resign cycle is quite intense. You know what that's exactly right, catherine. Cycle is quite intense. You know what that's exactly right, catherine? Catherine, I think, is a former SO or staff member. If you do join Scientology staff and you have a two and a half year or five year contract, it's really hardcore when they want you to come back for that next. Unless you're leaving town, they're going to get you. If you get like a big job or something like that where you can say, well, I'm going to be able to pay for services or something like that, that's a good hack, by the way, if you wanted to use that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Catherine said she was former staff.
Speaker 1:There you go, catherine. This isn't a question. Have a wonderful week next week. Thank you.
Speaker 2:Catherine, I appreciate it, thank you.
Speaker 1:Laura Korea, you guys are great Question who, besides DM, is getting more than 45 per week? Greetings from Uruguay. Thank you, laura, from Uruguay.
Speaker 2:Nice Thank you.
Speaker 1:No one that I know of is getting more than 45 per week besides Dave. No one that I know of is getting more than 45 per week besides Dave. I knew that Shelly and some other RTC executives used to get some bonuses, and at CST, the Church of Spiritual Technology, and at ASI, which is Authored Services Incorporated, they would also sometimes get bonuses or they would get a different pay structure, but for the most part, all the other thousands of Sea Org members make a maximum of the 45 a week, and a lot of those places they don't even get the 45 a week because there's not enough money to pay them. After they send as much, a lion's share of the income from any Scientology organization gets sent up the line to the next organizations, and so there's not a lot of cash laying around for SeaWorld members to get. Thank you, that's a good question, heather Smith. The SPTV made me a better driver.
Speaker 1:Is in reference to the Katie Lohmanrew gold interview. Oh good, thank you, sorry. I haven't seen that whole thing, heather. I'm so sorry I haven't seen it. Um, I'm so busy with work. The time I have I spend with you guys and then I'm, I'm out, um steven britain a little bit with me yeah, sometimes I'll sit down and have a meal with Claire every once in a while.
Speaker 1:Dm also stands for Dungeon Master Hashtag. Appropriate it does. I used to play Dungeons and Dragons when I was little and I was not really the Dungeon Master most of the time. Anon A Thank you for the super sticker there. Anon A Thank you. Anon A EG Johnson. It occurred to me that Marty Rathbun was simply living up to the slogan we come back, yes.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:That is the C organization's motto is we come back, and that's in reference to some space opera nonsense. Claire's animal is doing all kinds of stuff. Inon A, thank you. Another one, or I put the same one up twice. Stella Black, thank you. Super Sticker, thank you, stella. Anon A, again thank you. That was definitely a different one. Mark H, here, let me unmute Claire here. There you go, sorry about that.
Speaker 1:There was like a herd of dogs having a reunion in my office I know I muted you because of all the like, the clackety clacking on your wood floor. Is it true that lava brand soap can wash off body things? Maybe a good sponsor for sptv I? You know, I'm not sure about lava, but the orange glow that they sell at home depot does wonders on VTs and it exfoliates and that's important for a good scare routine, skin care routine. Um, thank you, Mark H. Um, Sue Prov says I've. I'm new here but subscribed. I saw you on a Ron. I was wondering if you were related. I'm not related to a Ron and I didn't know a Ron in the sea or Claire did, because she was in Florida, uh, uh, in RTC religious technology center and they were um training a bunch of people in Florida and that's where Aaron was when he was getting trained.
Speaker 2:Um our family of choice, all of us.
Speaker 1:Yes, and I only met Aaron after he left Scientology. That was the first time I met him, but I did also go to school with his wife, and I also went to school with Mike's wife, and my wife tried to go to the school that we went to, but she was too old and they didn't let her in.
Speaker 2:She was 14. By too old you mean? Yeah, I just turned 14. Thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was 14 years old, she wasn't allowed to go to a Scientology school. Okay, I think we're good. I think we got all the questions. Are you guys ready for some David Miscavige shoops?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:We should be, because we've got some good ones. This I cut this video out and I make it to its own video. This is David Miscavige Shoops of the Week. This is going to be a good one, guys. We got a lot of good ones here. This is Toy Time from last week. This one won by a landslide. It wasn't like some weeks it's like this one won, but there was another close second. This one was just everybody. It seemed like everybody voted for this one. So toy time. If you, if we haven't already sent you an email, send us an email saying if you want to book a bobblehead or SP bracelet and we'll try to hook you up with one of those things.
Speaker 2:We should just give mention, a special mention, to apostate Alex, because he was the second place. Yes, grow your own cult leader.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's true Grow your own cult leader. I think was really the only other one that got any votes. For the most part, there's always a smattering of ones, but the only one that had any sort of quantity was another good one. Very good. Yeah, I had to blur, I had to do some stuff with that. One Scientology went crazy over under the Sea Org because somebody was having a barbecue or cooking a burger on the front deck of the Sea Org and they claimed that we were setting a religious retreat on fire.
Speaker 2:And they, they took the not our fault if somebody doesn't know how to run a grill, right, I mean come on Anyway.
Speaker 1:So on Twitter, they were making a big stink about it on Twitter and they're making a big stink about it on YouTube, and so, either way, I had to kind of I had to dumb that one down a little bit. Anyway, toy time is the winner. Special mention to apostate, alex and under the Sea Org. This one we're going to call this Dave can't sit with us. Dave Can't Sit With Us, and it's got a bunch of religious people sitting at the table and Dave is walking up with his e-meter and the kids are saying you can't sit with him. And there's a bunch of Easter eggs in this one too. Tom Cruise is actually sitting at a whole nother table that Dave's not even allowed to sit at. So this is Dave Can't sit with us.
Speaker 1:And if you want to meet her on his tray, yeah, he's got an e-meter and some cans If you want to. If you want to try your hand at doing a shoop, you just go to the about page on a computer on a browser, go to the blown for good YouTube about page and you can email us there. It says for business use. If you want to send me a shoop, then we're doing business. You're sending me a shoop If I like it. I'm going to be showing a video of a shoop. Um, we're going to business. It's YouTube business. If we're going to, um, keep doing this, we will, we're. We plan to make a little portal on the BFG website where you can submit photos or videos or whatever you want, and, uh, it'll be a little bit more streamlined, but for now, you can email them to me on the email and the about page. Thank you, you can email them to me on the email in the about page, thank you.
Speaker 1:Okay, this is Breaking Dave and this is in reference to the show Breaking Bad, and it says Breaking Scientology and then it has Dave's head riding a turtle through the desert and if you haven't watched the show Breaking Bad, that's what it's in reference to the show Breaking Bad. That's what it's in reference to. They did some some bad guys on the show did this to some other bad guys on the show, so we'll just call this one Breaking Dave. There are a lot of Breaking Bad themed shoops that we seem to get in from time to time. This is I don't know. This is Dave on the witness stand. It looks like in england or, uh, some place where the uh, where the queens I don't know what they call that where they have barristers, um, and they follow the uh, their part. They're under the rule of the uh the queen, um, yeah, so we'll call this one Witness Dave or Dave on Trial. How about that? That sounds good, dave on Trial. I like the sound of Dave on Trial, even if it doesn't have a funny picture attached to it.
Speaker 1:This is Dave the Shoop Shoop Song. Now, this one is pretty funny. I'm seeing this one for the first time and it says Dave the Shoop Shoop Song time and it says dave the shoop shoop song and then it says it's in his fist and then it shows dave with this uh, it's kind of like a mermaidy dress on, that's got little. It's like bedazzled. I don't know what you call those, when those bedazzled are really big, um, like, uh, like scales, like fish scales, but I really like this one.
Speaker 1:You know also the week that we showed that david miscavige uh shoop where he's in the locker room with tom cruise and he's all prettied up yep that thumbnail was very effective and got the most that video has is one of the highest viewed videos and I think it is a good amount is attributable to, attributable to that amazing thumbnail. Dave, real pretty for a shoop. I won't discourage it. If you want to pretty him up, give him a little, give him some lashes or makeup or any of that stuff. I won't, I won't shy away from them. Um, I don't know what you call it. He wasn't. He's not really drag, he's just cute. Cute it up or prettied up a little. He just made to look pretty. Just just a purdy Dave Miscavige. Um, Just a purdy Dave Miscavige. Scientology boss babies look better with a little bit of makeup on. That's what I've been told. So this is the Shoop Shoop song, Dave, the Shoop Shoop song. That's a lot to type but I like it. Oh, this one.
Speaker 2:What is going on here? This is Dave, the Hunter Gatherer one.
Speaker 1:What is going on here? This is the hunter gatherer. This looks like I'm gonna say this is post-apocalyptic, post-apocalyptic dave, post-apocalyptic dave. You've got dave. He's got his little sea captain, he's got his little baby, baby navy, uh sea cap on. He's with tom cruise and elrond hubbard. And they've got these record players playing, uh, elrond hubbard's lectures and this one that some cave people, or future future cave people, I guess, are like the cst records from the time vaults yeah, that's what I'm saying they're.
Speaker 1:They got all this stuff after the apocalypse. There's a volcano in the background. There's a nuclear bomb that's gone off in the background. This is after the end of the war, the end of the world, or the last world war, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, the walking dorks, that's what this one's going to be called the walking dorks. That's what this one's going to be called the walking dorks. This is after the zombie apocalypse, or nuclear waste, and uh, nuclear war, and uh, this is the walking dorks.
Speaker 2:That was a good one, whoever's come whoever's uh lucky cg got to keep his uh metal there yeah, he did.
Speaker 1:That was the one possession he chose to keep if he was going to go on to live with David Miscavige and L Ron Hubbard was his Freedom Medal of Valor necklace that looked like Flava. Flav gave him one of his old things, old necklaces. Okay, that is the Walking Dorks. Okay, now this one is he's got a giant ball of thousands. It's David Miscavige, he's got a giant ball of thousands and thousands and thousands of people and it's has a little word bubble and it says just a handful. Oh, I get it. So there's just a handful of SPs complaining about him and it's just happens to be thousands and thousands of people. So this is we'll call this one Dave's handful, a handful for Dave.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is Dumbo Dave. It is a picture of David Miscavige. There's people listening on the podcast. There's people listening, so I have to explain it in excruciating detail. So you've got David Miscavige is on the Dumbo ride at Disneyland or Disney World. I can't tell from the picture and I haven't been to either enough to know if this ride is located at both, but it's one of these rides where the parent can sit in the chair and then put their toddler in front, and so it's got a picture of Monique Yingling, who is the public spokesman spokeshole for Scientology, even though she's not a Scientologist and she is and often says she's a Catholic and does not even, is not even a member of Scientology. Is sitting a little little dainty dave, a little baby dave, little scientology boss baby is uh sitting on monique monique ying's links, uh, monique yingling's lap as she rides the dumbo ride. So this is dumbo dave.
Speaker 1:Okay, now this one, oh, my goodness, this one. This is called bt dave and um. Instead of et it says bt and it's got a picture of uh, elliot from et on his bike, which is actually tom cruise on a bike with a little red uh pullover on and uh, it's got c Thomas Howell behind him. And then it's got David Miscavige is wrapped up in a blanket, like ET was in the little egg crate in the front of the bike, and they are just about to take off and fly over the police cars that are chasing them to get back the mutant David Miscavige so they can take him to their lab and stick him and prod him and use probes to test him. So this is BT and this is a play on ET, the movie, the extraterrestrial. This is the body. Thetan the body, thetan, ok, body, thetan Dave. Bt, dave.
Speaker 1:Ok, now this is. This is grouchton Dave, bt, dave. Okay. Now this is Grouchy Dave, and it's just a giant picture of a Smurf that David Miscavige's head is on and it has a little word cloud there that says Grouchy. So this is Grouchy Smurf, which is a good name for Dave. Grouchy Smurf.
Speaker 1:I don't think we can keep calling him much more names. We've already got Keebler King, scientology Boss, baby, mr Mickey Wits, and now we got Grouchy Smurf. It's just too many things. That's Grouchy Smurf, dave or Grouchy Dave, okay.
Speaker 1:Now this one. Oh see, this is not what I'm talking about. This is Dave. He's been.
Speaker 1:We've got Dave's face on the picture of a blonde model and the Photoshop's not a good job. It's not the best pretty Dave I've ever seen. He does have some eyeliner and some lipstick on. He does have some eyeliner and some lipstick on, but it's just too much ear and face sticking out of that blonde head. But this one's called Miss Cavage's Flag Base, brand new on Scientology TV. It's Miss instead of Miss Cage. It's Miss Cavage. Anyway, miss Cavage, we'll just call this one Cougar Dave, cougar Dave, okay. So if you want to vote for or RuPaul Dave. Rupaul Dave might even be better. Anyway, that's pretty disgusting.
Speaker 1:Okay, now this one is. I can't remember the name of the movie. I think it's called Basketball and it's like they mixed. It's a South, the guys who did South Park, it's Trey and Matt in this movie and then they've got a little Davey Miscavige in between them in one of the scenes and they're all dressed up in their sports uniforms. Excuse me, okay, so this is. We'll call this one Basketball Dave, isn't it Base-ket-ball? Anyway, it's Base. I think that's the name. It's called Base-ket-ball, anyway it's Base-ket-ball.
Speaker 2:I think that's the name it's called.
Speaker 1:Base-ket-ball yeah, okay, ooh. Tron Dave Wow, that's awesome. Yeah, so this is Tron Dave. It's got Tom and Dave in their little Tron outfits and this is the original Tron. This is not the updated Tron. This is not the updated Tron. This is a OG Tron, right here, uh, so we'll call this one.
Speaker 1:Uh, what are those things called? Uh, cyber bikes or, um, cycle bikes? I think they're called cycle bikes, I can't remember. Um, we'll call this one cycle bike Dave or Tron Dave. Um, okay, this is um, this is Will Smith slap Dave, and it's got a picture of Dave. My logo is covering it, so I can't see what that is. Let me see if there's a way I can get rid of the logo. Keep your family out of my MF and cult, keep your family out of my MF and Colt. And it's got Will Smith smacking Dave. Um, okay, okay, uh, if you say so. If you say so, uh, this is, this is Will Smith slap Dave. And uh, will Smith is uh, slapping Dave and we've got wanted dead or alive Dave, uh, and then it's got dead crest crossed out and just says wanted alive, and it says Ubuntu, 15,000 reward. Okay, it's a.
Speaker 1:It's a wanted poster with David Miscavige dressed in a pink bunny outfit. I don't know where this is from, but yeah, sea Org's Pink Nightmare. So this is Bunny Dave. This is Skydiving Dave. This is a picture of Dave skydiving tandem, and Tom Cruise is riding on the backside of Dave and they're going for a little skydive. Somebody told me that this is from the Christmas story. It's been a long time since I've seen that movie, but yeah. So this is skydiving Dave. And this is Toy Story Dave. It's got Dave Miscavige dressed up as Woody, and then he's got L Ron, hubbard, lightyear and Shelly Miscavige dressed up as Jesse next to him. So this is Toy Story Dave.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:We've got a lot of shoops. How many more are there?
Speaker 2:I think you're getting there.
Speaker 1:Okay, this is Terminator Dave. So it's Dave dressed up as the Terminator in Judgment Day and he's been shot at least five times with the shotgun or whatever that gun is, the heavy cow gun, and he's running at us in the steel mill. Okay, this is oh, this is Dave. Okay, this is a little naughty. It's Dave sitting in a chair and he's watching Tampa Brad and his wife, ashley Brady, doing their fans videos and David Miscavige is watching this, his wife, ashley Brady, doing their uh, their fans videos. And, um, david Miscavige is watching this and he's got a box of tissues. So this is, uh, this is dirty Dave. We'll call this one Dirty Dave.
Speaker 2:You got 16 left.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness. Okay, this is, uh, it's a portrait. This is way portrait. Uh, this is widescreen portrait. This is like a little portrait, just a little landscape. Sorry, this is widescreen landscape. It's a whole bunch of pictures in landscape. It's a very, very wide format and this one is it's like a little photo montage of Dave Miscavige and Tom Cruz, like on vacations. There's one of them at the beach, there's one of them by the pool, there's one of them at another beach, there's one of them at another, yet another beach. There's one of them having lunch, there's one of them taking a bath, there's one of them riding around on a Vespa, around on a cobblestone, street or courtyard, um, and there's another one of them by the pool. So this is Tom and Dave's uh, vacation anamorphic Dave. Okay, oh, this is a good one.
Speaker 1:This is, uh, this is I don't know what we can say about this one. It's, it's. It's David McDonald, david McScavage McDonald. It's David. It's L Ron Hubbard dressed up as Ronald McDonald, house kids, tom Cruise, kirstie Alley, john Travolta, shelly Miscavige and David Miscavige all sitting around with Hubbard old, mick Hubbard, hubbard McDonald, mickey Daves or L Ron McDonald, okay, mcdonald's. Okay, next, we've got it's like a Pokemon card that's got Dave Miscavige on it and it's called a Dodgelet. It's Dodge.
Speaker 1:Subpoena Super Thayton. It's some kind of Pokemon thing, I guess. I don't know, I'm not a Pokemon guy. It's some kind of role playing card game and it's got Shelly Miscavige in the hole.
Speaker 1:And oh my goodness, bye, goldie, thanks, goldie was just saying bye, bye, goldie. Thanks for everything you do, Goldie. Yeah, we're going a little long, we're almost done here. Guys Want to buy a mystery sandwich, dave? And this has got David Miscavige. It's got all these silly L Ron Hubbard books. He's got a sandwich and it says want to buy a mystery sandwich? So this will be sandwich, dave. Oh, this is um. Oh, I know the guy who plays it. It's Warwick Davis. It's a, it's a movie about this. Uh, leprechaun, it's called leprechaun. It's called Leprechaun. It's a horror movie series and it's got a leprechaun in it and David Miscavige is dressed up by the evil leprechaun. Okay, oh, my goodness, babe, this is an X-rated one. It says everything is so much smaller than I thought and it's got a picture of Aaron and Dave. I would have never shown this one in a million years. I don't know why you put this one in there.
Speaker 2:Anyway, you should have seen the other ones.
Speaker 1:This is X rated, Dave. Yeah, no.
Speaker 2:I shouldn't have seen the other one.
Speaker 1:This is the most censored one, Anyway by a long shot, yeah.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of naughtiness going in on this one and it's mostly blurred out, but it is X rated. We'll call this one X rated Dave. Oh, this is crybaby Dave. This is Dave with two other twins that are crying, and Dave's got we'll call it bowl cut Dave because he, to be fair, he's not really crying. So this will be bowl cut Dave. And it's a picture of Dave with some other little kids.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, this is Putin Dave. This is a picture of, uh, vladimir Putin with David Miscavige's head on him and he's riding a horseback with no t-shirt on, with no shirt on and uh, yeah, so this is putin muscavige and this one is legend muscavige. It has, uh, david muscavige dressed up as the gal in the movie. I want to say it's called legend. Can you google legend? I think that's mia, mia, I can't remember her name, but it's got Tom Cruise who's plays the Tom. He's Tom Cruise. So it's there's no face. It really is Tom Cruise. It's not Tom Cruise's face on this guy. This guy is really played by Tom Cruise. And then he's got this gal in the front. Got this gal in the front, um, and I know it's. I think her name is mia sarah. It's the girl from um ferris bueller's day off I think is the same actress.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and um cat and maggie said mia sarah okay, you didn't google it I did, but I'm multitasking okay, either way that we'll call this one legend dave.
Speaker 1:We'll call it legend dave or mia d Mia.
Speaker 2:Dave, it's Mia.
Speaker 1:Sarah, there you go yep and it's labyrinth, or legend no, it's legend okay, it is legend.
Speaker 1:Okay, good, I was right. Somebody said labyrinth. See, that's why you got to google, because sometimes people say, and I agree, and then I'm wrong by default. Okay, this is um. This is uh, toddler Daveave looks like dave, just sitting in a little. Uh, one, it's the actual size dave. Uh, he's just sitting in a little chair. He's got his little beanie on, so we'll call this one. Uh, actual size dave. Uh, this is gollum dave dave dressed up as gollum gollum dave. Um, and then this one is Dragon Dave. It's got a dragon, a three-headed dragon, that says no SPTV. It's got like a red circle with a hash crossed through it. That says no SPTV. And then it's got a dragon that's a triple header. It's got an Elrond, a Miscavige and a Tom Cruise David Miscavige, tom Cruise and L Ron Hubbard, triple headed dragon Woof Coming down the home stretch here, guys, god, my neck starting to hurt from looking at all these shoes for so long, oh, my goodness.
Speaker 1:Uh, this is a Lego Dave. It's got a little picture of a Lego guy out in space with. It's got a little picture of a Lego guy out in space with Dave Miscavige in his helmet. And then we got Elf on a Shelf, dave, and it looks like an elf's been locked up in a cookie jar and little baby David Miscavige is locked up in there. So, dave on a Shelf. And then we got Napoleon, dave, a shelf. And then we got napoleon, dave, guy napoleon dressed up as napoleon or some kind of french shoulder, with, uh, david miscavige. And then we've got um, mike rinder and dave. I don't understand this one. Oh, I think that's penn and teller. I don't know who this is. It's got a big guy next to a little guy. It looks like it could be Penn and Teller, but it's Mike Rinder and Dave Miscavige. And that brings us to the end of the David Miscavige Shoops. And that were the David, those oh, I got to say it again, I got to cut all that out, and those were the David Miscavige Shoops of the week.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:Let's just go back through and see if there was any. Did we get any more super chats or any comments we missed?
Speaker 2:Oh, I was not paying attention, sorry, it looks like we got them all.
Speaker 1:I don't see any new ones. I think all the other super chatters got out of there ones, I think all the other super chatters got out of there.
Speaker 2:I just marked a super sticker.
Speaker 1:You did. Okay, here we go. Wake Dawn Cat super sticker. Thank you, Wake Dawn Cat.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:We try to get to all of them. I don't like bailing on people.
Speaker 2:If I can we may have bailed on you in the past. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to do that and if we missed your shoop it's because we had like 200 submissions we did, we had that's.
Speaker 1:Those are the ones that made it in. We still did, uh, cut some out, all those those portrait ones that weren't really good to for claire.
Speaker 2:I guess she didn't get them out, but um I had to get more email storage this week, so we were having some problems.
Speaker 1:We need to, we need to delete some, then you don't have to keep them. Once you get them, you can delete them, you know.
Speaker 2:Oh, I marked a few other things, by the way.
Speaker 1:Oh, you did, huh, yeah, good Just before you wrap up. I'm new here, but subscribe. We did that one and then we did that one. We did both of those. We did all those, thank you. Thank you, pardon me, sorry, okay, we'll just take care of some business at the end here.
Speaker 2:You got to take the comment off.
Speaker 1:I don't have to do anything.
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Speaker 1:There you go. So people do win, they do get things and yeah, it's a real thing, it's not just pretend on TV, we actually do it. For all of those who stay till the very end, I appreciate it. Thank you very much. We're going to try to get this into a routine. We may do a live tomorrow or Thursday with Aaron or Mike possibly. I don't think so. We're trying to get a bunch of stuff done before we leave and I've got to get a bunch of videos edited of interviews that Claire did so that those can go up on the channel and get released. But if we don't see you now, we will see you, hopefully on a live that we do on the cruise. Otherwise, claire's got another video coming out tomorrow morning, hopefully on a live that we do on the cruise. Otherwise, claire's got another video coming out tomorrow morning and, no matter what, she's got another video coming out next Wednesday as well.
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