Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed
Marc Headley worked at Scientology’s secret desert compound, which houses all Scientology management, for 15 years. The 500-acre property is located deep in the California desert. The local townspeople were told lectures and films were made there. But is that all that was happening? It is the location of a multi-million dollar home for L. Ron Hubbard, built two decades after his death. It is the home of Scientology’s current leader, David Miscavige. So what really happens at the Int Base? Are the stories on the internet true? How does Scientology conduct management of its day-to-day operations? Could stories of armed guards, weapons, staff beatings, and razor wire fences be true? If so, how could a facility like this exist in modern-day America? Hundreds of staff tried to escape over the years. Some succeeded but were never seen or heard of again, and most failed. Why were people kept here? What really went on at the headquarters of Scientology? This is the story of what happened behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology.
Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed
Exposing Scientology's Dark Secrets: Surveillance Files, Elderly Abuse, and Community Resilience - Scientology Q&A #30
This episode originally aired on YouTube on June 16, 2023. Due to popular demand, these episodes are also being made available on the podcast.
This episode delves into the disturbing revelations found within newly acquired Spy Files from Scientology, which outline cases of abuse and cover-ups within the organization. By examining thousands of internal documents, we expose the lengths to which Scientology goes to manipulate narratives and control its members, especially the elderly. Listeners are encouraged to join the conversation and support those attempting to leave this oppressive environment.
• Insight into the newly acquired Spy Files from Scientology
• Stories of documented abuse and systematic cover-ups
• The troubling trend of elder abuse within the organization
• Community and dialogue as tools for change
• Calls to action for listeners to support individuals affected by Scientology's practices
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Hey guys, welcome to the channel. I got Mark Headley and Claire Headley here with you today.
Speaker 2:Good evening everybody. Good to be back.
Speaker 1:We have been crazy busy doing stuff and we have a ton of updates for you guys on stuff and what's been going on and what we've been finding. And, yeah, anything. Did I forget anything?
Speaker 2:No, we have been busy bees all by choice, so we're not complaining, don't get us wrong.
Speaker 1:Yes, let's just see. We'll start out by seeing who's in here tonight, see where. If you're in the chat there, let us know where you're watching from, and we're going to cover some of the updates and stuff that's been happening. Then we're going to do we're going to do giveaways. We got a ton of people have gone to the the blown for good shop link link in description about where the people have been writing in and saying, hey, I want to do a giveaway, I want to. Here's something to do a giveaway with. So we've got three giveaways.
Speaker 2:I think we can do tonight based on what's been coming in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, three giveaways, so we'll do one every half hour and then at the end, after we're done, giving you guys the update on what's been coming in. Yeah, Three giveaways, so we'll do one every half hour and then um, at the end, after we're done, uh, giving you guys the update on what's been going on. Um, we'll do a Q and a. So if you've got questions, uh, get in there and um, we'll try to not only do the um, the super chats and the super stickers, we'll try to do some other ones as well. So if you've got questions, and if they're good and something we haven't answered, you know 500 times on other lives, then we'll check it out.
Speaker 2:We'll click it. Do the caps on the question first, so we can pop it out.
Speaker 1:Oh, just say question, yes, yeah, it's really helpful.
Speaker 2:I've seen that on a bunch of different channels. It started over on Aaron's channel and it was a brilliant suggestion from a viewer. And before anybody asks, I'm not in a different room, any same room, different setup. We're in the midst of changing everything around, so hopefully this is going to work out well.
Speaker 1:Yes, we have one more thing to do, and then it'll be Claire's super duper set up for doing these lives and other videos and stuff she does. Yeah, um, awesome, okay, cool, um, I guess the first thing that we're going to talk about is, um, you know, I've been doing, we've been doing a series on the channel here called the spy files, and the spy files I had for many years were just a folder that had documents in it that were about me specifically or myself, and like there's another one where Scientology is investigating South Park, and so there's a file that is called BFG, blood for Good and Spark South Park. Now, these files are internal documents from Scientology's spy wing, which is called the Office of Special Affairs, and a lot of these documents are being written from somebody in the Office of Special Affairs in Los Angeles, 6331 Hollywood Boulevard, and they're going from that location. They're being sent digitally to someone at the International Scientology Headquarters, which is in Gilman Hot Springs, california, and they're being sent to a person called WDC Osa, which at the time and through a lot of these documents, was Mike Rinder. They're also being sent to the Religious Technology Center and they're being sent directly to David Miscavige and people that work for David Miscavige. Now some of the documents are going from OSA to the Int Base, some of them are going from the WDC OSA to David Miscavige and some of them are coming from David Miscavige down to someone in Int Management or OSA.
Speaker 1:And these documents are wild and the ones I had on me there was about 30 of. Well, recently I came into possession of thousands of these documents and they're laid out in a very similar way, where there's a folder and inside that folder are all the documents, all these internal documents, going back and forth about that person. You may have seen a video that Aaron did over on his channel about a Scientology actor, a Broadway actor, that was involved in the assault of some female minors. We were going through the documents and I just clicked. I saw the name barber and I just clicked on it and I said, oh, what's this?
Speaker 1:I remember that guy, there was something about that guy and there's all these documents about all the stuff that he's up to and there there's never anywhere in there where they say, um, that he did anything that they would light him up for. And they're actually. They are gathering intelligence and other evidence of other crimes that are occurring and they're not telling anybody about it. They're figuring out ways to circumvent those, to make it so that the authorities do not find out about those other ones, and they're exploring all of the options on how they can make sure that they don't get any backlash from this actor, the Scientology.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and, needless to say, none of these documents were ever, ever supposed to see the light of day in the outside world.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and one of the interesting things about this is that, like in the case for this actor, this guy committed crimes. He's in trouble for one of these crimes and they are gathering up all the evidence of other crimes from him directly and he's readily admitting these things. To be fair, he does kind of trickle out the information. He's not, he doesn't come out with it all at once, he it kind of trickles out over the series of many security checks. This is an interrogation, scientology interrogation, where they put you on the meter and they ask you questions about what you've done, what crimes you've committed, and then they use those and they gather those. And in the case of this guy, he's telling them all these things so that they will help him not get in trouble for these things. Yeah, and wasn't?
Speaker 2:wasn't there a note in there too, like they they found evidence that he was for these things? Yeah, and wasn't there a note in there too, like they found evidence that he was committing these crimes? And they then intentionally like normally when you're getting interrogated, it's being done by the police department in Scientology, so you can, it is reportable. But they intentionally made it so that the when he confessed to new crimes, it would be, quote unquote, under their confidential priest penitent, knowing that he was going to be confessing to crimes. And this was how they were going to justify not reporting it to the authorities yeah.
Speaker 1:So usually what happens is scientology gains this intel and they will do it by nefarious means if needed. In this case, he's already sort of in trouble with the law and he knows that they're going to help him because they don't want any backlash. So he is kind of playing the he's. He's playing the game to his advantage, but again, so are they, so they're. They're both on the same side of. Let's not tell anybody anything that's going on. That doesn't need to know about it. Meanwhile they are putting their Scientology is putting their top top attorneys, the attorneys. They pay more, hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. They're putting multiple attorneys on this to sort it out and use their connection as high power, high caliber attorneys to gain other high caliber attorneys as defense for this person that they know. I mean, they know he's going to get lit up, but depending on how they play it, they can minimize the damage on him and then, uh, in return onto them as well. So, um, so what we're doing so that was I'm just saying I'm just giving you an example of that was just five documents.
Speaker 1:There's over 5,000 of these documents. There were five about that guy and all five of them were insane obstruction of justice, uh, uh, all kinds of nonsense happening in these. Okay, um. So then I actually started deep diving into these documents. There's so many documents, and when I say it's a document, some of these documents are one page. One of them is 400 pages. So even though there's 5,000 documents, there might be 30,000 pages of individual stuff that has to be read through, and it's in heavy, heavy, heavy scientologies. So they're using scientology lingo, they're using scientology abbreviations, they're using scientol or osa, the spy wing. They're using osa kind of code to talk about cert. When they talk about special collection that means when they buy your garbage, when they they talk a lot of the private investigators have code names. So they're like you know.
Speaker 2:Just pause to let those words settle in for a minute. Buy your garbage.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So insane. Yeah, I mean, obviously we've lived this crazy life for the last 18 years, so we have endless experience.
Speaker 1:But you know, yeah, another thing that they have is they have their own travel agency, so they can. That is connected to the whole. Any travel agent is able to book on a certain amount of flights or a certain amount of airlines or different countries have a system. They can book anything to anywhere on anything and because they have that access, they can check flights and they can. And because they know a person's full name and all their deets, they can. If it just has a you know first name, last initial, they can track that person. If it's first initial, last name, that can, they can know, so they can. They can figure out who's going where based on that it from that, from all the evidence I can tell from these files, they have somebody that works at Sprint Verizon team. They have somebody that works at every single phone company. So no matter which service you have, they could buy your phone records yep um, they had.
Speaker 1:They had all of my phone records and they had two or three other people's phone net records and we none of us had the same carriers, so somehow they are able to purchase. They had all the phone logs and how they didn't have, they didn't have the actual conversation in all cases. In some cases the ones I'm talking about right now they just had who was called and the duration when the call started, when the call end and the duration of the call.
Speaker 1:In other instances there are transcripts of wiretapped phone calls in these documents and some of these documents, yeah, and some of these documents are so sensitive that I think I'm even hesitant on what to do with them, because people that are now on the outside might get in trouble.
Speaker 1:Like, there's a lot of nonsense happening in these files and I'm kind of leaning on the side of just airing them out and, uh, seeing where the uh, the chips fall. But, um, but there there's a 100%, um illegal acts in, I'd say, 75% of the documents where, like, crimes are being committed or they're finding out crimes and then they're covering up crimes or they're making up things to um, okay, so like in the, in the, in the, in the case of this one individual, they wrote a program, a detailed, step-by-step program, on how they're going to destroy this person's life. That's actually the purpose of the program is to get this guy fired from his job and get all of his connections in his life cut. That's the program, the stated purpose of the program. And then it proceeds to lay out every single step of their operation on how they're going to lie, cheat and steal to get this guy to lose his job.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and, and we reached out to him. He's like, oh my gosh, yes, I would love to see these documents. Obviously, they failed. They did not destroy his life, but they tried very, very hard to do so.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this guy was never a Scientologist. Yeah, this guy was somebody who was exposing them. Now there are also similar programs for people that used to be Scientologists, and how they're going to destroy their lives and how they're going to use all of the people that that person knew in Scientology to tell lies about that person to people now outside of Scientology. These files are insane and they document Scientology acts that are criminal in nature in overstate lines in other countries. There's about media networks that they're messing with, like ABC, cnn producers, television personalities, interviewersers, and how they're playing all these people against each other so that scientology doesn't get talked about on these shows. Um, I'd say 75 of the documents are about former scientologists that they're trying to attack and the other 25 are um directed at people that are exposing scientology, whether they're trying to attack, and the other 25 percent are directed at people that are exposing Scientology, whether they're journalists or you know. In the case of this guy, he's he was a college professor.
Speaker 2:He is a college professor.
Speaker 1:He still is to this day. So, but these? So basically, what we're doing now is we're gathering up the, the, the. They weren't the Scientologists in the case of these documents. They're not the most organized as you would expect, so I'm having to kind of like in the case in the.
Speaker 1:In the course of going through these other documents, I found about another 30 documents about me that weren't in my folder because it wasn't 100% about me. That was just a mention or a paragraph or comments, and just a totally different document. Nonetheless, they were pretty significant comments that I was like oh wow, that's, that's crazy. So we're rounding up the documents about each one of these people and then we're turning them over to the people that they were about these people.
Speaker 1:In most cases, these people may have known that there was some sort of nonsense going on, but this is where it's being dreamt up and in some cases there's different iterations of what they're gonna do, like they did. They said we're gonna do this, we're gonna lie, we're gonna pick in his office and we going to lie to his family and lie to his friends and put a horrible website, and then it'll get an answer saying oh, you need to like triple your efforts, this is not enough, and then they will expand the program to destroy this person's life. I mean, I don't it's hard to explain how insane these files are.
Speaker 2:It really is.
Speaker 1:Anyway, and there's definitely criminal acts that are happening in here and that, and if they're. So basically what I'm doing is I'm going to give these files to people and I'm just saying I recommend you go through them and if you, if you, if you get really worked up, I would consult a lawyer and I would see if there's any legal recourse that you can get from this, because this is definitely not nonprofit, religious exempt activities and and for everybody asking in the comments yes, very definitely, these have been given to the FBI as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, these documents have been turned over to law enforcement, where whenever I find something that looks like it should be something that law enforcement should know about, that, we're getting them the documents as well.
Speaker 2:And, hey, take a moment, let's say hi to the more than a thousand people in the chat.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, look at that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we have a thanks for joining us tonight, everybody.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you, yeah, yeah. No, I'm telling you guys, um, I don't know how, like aaron's doing some videos on these, I've sent um a bunch of these documents to other uh, sp tv related channels as well, because there's no way that I can do um, I can't do 5 000 videos on these files. It would take me the rest of my life to go through these and read them and then explain them to you guys. So I'm trying to figure out a good place where, after I do a video, I could post the original documents and just have them there on a site without having to get like a webmaster involved, and all this on a site without having to get like a webmaster involved in all this. So I'm not sure. If anybody knows a good way or a good like kind of method for how I could do this, let me know. I'm willing to take suggestions and if there's another site that has something similar to this, then maybe we could do that. But it is.
Speaker 1:There are, I mean, I'd say there's a thousand people that are covered in these documents, like a thousand different individuals that they either talk about or target for destruction or are trying to help cover up their crimes, or this person stole millions, of millions of dollars and they're trying to figure out how to make sure that they're not. I mean, you name it, it's in these files. It's insanity. Um, yeah, so we're, we're working on that. This is a developing. This is a developing project because it is, um, it's much, much, much bigger than just having a bunch of files.
Speaker 1:There's. There's what I mean no other way to say it this there's a lot of evidence in here, and the other thing about these files is they're in standard Scientology format, so they're sending a document from this place to this place and they're ceasing. They're copying maybe 10 individuals. So if Scientology would be like, oh, we don't have that, it's like, well, but you had 12 different people that had copies. So you're saying you, you accidentally lost all 12 copies of these documents, and then there's so many. There's no way they could. There's no way they could pretend they lost all these files.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and, by the way, that's why I included reference to all of that in my testimony the fact that reports of crimes within Scientology go to multiple different locations and all echelons Like it's not just in one file.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that that's exactly right there. There's, um, there's a policy letter from alron hubbard that you're not allowed to destroy these files like you cannot. You're not allowed to destroy files. So if scientology says they don't have these documents, it's like that's kind of impossible because you have so many different copies and none of them are supposed to be destroyed. So their own policies have made it. So they have to document and keep track of all this evidence. So if somebody does show up, there's a good argument that would stand that these documents are exist in their files and these are only for like a few year period.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So these are. These are like a tiny subsample of like, let's say, five or six years, and there could be decades of these files.
Speaker 2:So, and not to mention the fact that, lately, the things that have been popping onto our radar, yeah, oh my gosh, it's next level.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Seriously, next level. We're not going to talk about it just yet because of things.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We'll just leave that nice big fat mystery sandwich, but it's I mean, yeah, compared to some of the things we're talking about, it's crazy yeah, well, I will tell you this.
Speaker 1:I will give you a tiny. I did talk about this on a stream I did with aaron earlier today. Uh, on growing up in scientology channel, um channel. If you're watching this video and you have someone that you are related to or someone that you know about that is in Scientology and is an elder, there is like a 75% chance that they're being abused in Scientology right now. Just based off of interactions that we've had with people, they are if the person, like, say, worked at some company before they joined the Sea.
Speaker 1:And I would preface to say all of the people that I'm talking about are Sea Organization members that are growing old in Scientology, so they're 60 or older and they've spent decades dedicated themselves to the sea organization, like the paramilitary branch of Scientology, and when they get into these older years, they are sort of putting them out to pasture.
Speaker 1:If the person has any sort of savings or money that they've inherited or they earned or they got from sources whatever, they're sucking that bone dry and then they're opening up credit cards in this person's name and then they are putting them in a very, very low like I don't know if, even if you could call it a facility in a substandard living arrangement with many other elderly people, and then they're using their social security to cover that and then pay the minimum balance on all these credit cards and then, as soon as that person passes away, scientology keeps the $80,000 worth of credit card debt that they rang up for that person passes away. Scientology keeps the $80,000 worth of credit card debt that they rang up for that person. And then that person is done and then it's over and so, yeah, they're doing this.
Speaker 1:So far, they actually informed this person's family that the person had passed away 16, 19 years ago 19 years ago they had informed the family that this person passed away, and this person is still alive to this day, so we're not exactly sure why that occurred. We suspect it is so if somebody has an elderly family member in Scientology and they have heard that they've passed away, they will no longer check in on them or they will no longer attempt to communicate with that person, so that person will never be able to tell them that they're being abused or that something. That's the only thing that we can think of in this one case. But what I'm saying is that if you have a family member or you know somebody who is an elderly person to the Scientology, please try to get a, get a hold of them, and if you're not even if you've been told that they died and were never shown evidence of that.
Speaker 2:I mean, as shocking as it is to say that that's really the reality that we're trying to communicate, if you, if you are related to somebody in the C organization and you believe that they died with no evidence, please get in touch with us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we need to know, and one of the ways that we're finding out about this information is from the people that are watching this channel. There are a lot of Scientologists that watch this channel. There are a lot of people that have relatives that are in scientology that watch this channel. So we're hoping um, we're hoping that even if you're a scientologist and you're watching this channel and you have a family member in the c organization, please try to get a hold of them. This is not. This is not about us and us versus them. This is about people that are elderly are being abused, they're being taken advantage of and they're literally stealing these people's life savings and running up enormous amount of credit card debt in the name of these people, and not to mention not giving them proper medical attention, proper health care, proper nutrition, any of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And sticking them out somewhere, isolated from anybody and everybody that they ever knew, that's, that is abuse in and of itself yeah.
Speaker 1:So basically, if if you have a relative or somebody that was in the science, in the c-org, within scientology, and you were told that they had passed away, try to see if you can get a death certificate. If you cannot get a death certificate, then I'm pretty sure that they have not passed away or something has happened. We just found out about this in the last week and we have informed law enforcement and we're in touch. That's been taken in the case of this single individual. But this is one thing that we know. If they have a system, like the credit card fraud with the elders, if they have a system, it's happening everywhere and if they have a system, it's. It's not like it happens once or twice. They have a list of these people and they're checking them off as they do this to them. It's not, it's not accidental, it is, it's a system, it's a like the pattern of behavior.
Speaker 2:So this there is no such thing of this being an isolated instance, which is why we decided you know what? Let's just put it out there, because we know it's not an isolated instance. It never is with them, it never is. Osa will do the things that work for them to accomplish their means and purposes, and they will do it over and, over and over again.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So on that happy note, you want to move to some questions. I don't know I mean there's not much else we can say about that right now, because we're actually trying to. I'm trying to say how they do this In Scientology. They say, when you're doing an investigation and you see a string that's out of place, you go oh, you pull that string.
Speaker 2:Until you've reached the General Sherman tank. Quote unquote.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So we were doing our thing and we came across this and the elder abuse is something that we have seen, a pattern of that that no, uh, we know of multiple, multiple, multiple people that this is happening to and in a lot of cases, when we have worked with some of these people that we found that have been victims, um, they when, um when, when the lawyer writes the letter to Scientology, scientology just sends a check back. There's no, they don't want it, they do, they know this might be this might be the one thing that there's no arbitration. There's no, we don't know what happened. There's there's not really any that the credit cards are being opened and they are the sole recipients of all of the funds of the credit cards and it's all documented. And in a lot of cases, these people have their statements and there's no way to say this is not real.
Speaker 2:So yeah, nope, it's very, very well documented and very well turned over to to authorities. So rest assured for anyone asking yes, we are going to keep going. Yeah. Oh yeah, we're in this for the long haul.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're documenting all the other nonsense that happens and that'll be future content. Yeah, we see you, osa, we feel and see you. So just know, we know, whenever they start doing jackhole stuff in the background, trying to mess with us, we know like, oh, we're doing it. It's like a what do they call this Stick? It's like a dividing rod. It's an Osa dividing rod. Whenever we start getting nonsense happening, we're like, oh, yeah, we're, we're right on the vein, we're right on the gold vein here, babe, the nerve, doing it right so, okay, it is 30 minutes.
Speaker 1:we are at the 30 minute point, so we will transition to q a with a giveaway. Um, let's see here, uh, do you want to do it or do we want to just leave it? Whatever, because I think we have a book, we have merch, it doesn't really matter. Whatever they want.
Speaker 2:Yep, they can say whatever they want, or even we could do a bobblehead, a book and merch. Those are the three options.
Speaker 1:And when we say merch, we're talking about the Blown for Good store merch. Yep three options. And when we say merch, we're talking about the Blown for Good store. Merch where Shelly hats mugs t-shirts phone cases.
Speaker 2:And by the end of tonight I will put live our new items for our Theta Potato line.
Speaker 1:Theta Potatoes. We got BFG. We got Hail Xenu. We got Xenu as my homeboy. We got Not Today Thayton. We got. There's a lot of merch in there. You guys have been requesting stuff. If anybody says, why are there so many items? We keep getting requests and in the most cases they're pretty good. So we do it and we put it in there. But get on if you're on a phone or you're on a computer if you're on a phone or you're on a computer.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, no, no, the comments are coming. You're going to pick this one, um sure, okay, I'll pitch it. I'll pick it. Um yeah, I'm going to do a countdown here and, uh, let's see how many people we got. We got 1300 people in here. That's pretty. That's pretty great.
Speaker 2:We haven't done one of these in a long time, Right?
Speaker 1:Uh, bobble me, pick me, Okay, good, so let's just do a countdown here. This is how I do it I do a five and then I do the one that comes after five, which is four. I really milk it here. Three, two and a big old onesie, Selena Michelle Merch. Please, Selena Michelle, send an email to Claire at BlownForGoodcom with a link from the BlownForGood store of what you would like and Claire will immediately send you a link to that item and it ships for free straight to you. Yep, Thanks guys. I appreciate that. Do we have any comments? Oh wow, yeah, we've got a whole bunch of people in here. Thank you again, Selena Brit com. Brit com. Mom com. Brit com. Mom.
Speaker 2:Super sticker. Thank you, she said in her comment she was just trying to say we do great work. So thank you, brit com mom, we appreciate you being here and we appreciate your support.
Speaker 1:Thank you, arnie Van Halen. He was in the chat I did earlier, a few hours ago, with Aaron and he was at a Metallica concert and he got the notification and he was trying to watch the video at a Metallica concert. I don't understand that, but I would have it on. Do not disturb, okay, if I was in a Metallica concert, but either way, he can hear me now. Thank you, arnie, I appreciate it. Bella Lada says I can't help it. The two of you have my heart, just not the same without you. Well, thank you, bella. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1:We didn't go anywhere, we were just doing we. You know, we started this YouTube channel as sort of a, just a test to see if it would be even like at all useful, and it proved to be very useful. And we this is sort of our side like we have regular full-time jobs and we have the aftermath foundation, and then we have three boys and we do this on top of all those things, and so we don't do that many videos, and when we do, we try to make them decent for you guys and really, because we were doing so many videos for a while, all these things were happening that we were finding out about more things that we needed to deal with, you know, to help somebody or to, you know, get them to the next stage of what we're working on with them, and and it's just been kind of ballooning out of control. So we've been very, very busy behind the scenes. So, thank you for that, bella, in my, in my car on I-205 southbound Portland, oregon, headed home. Okay, gary, thank you for the update.
Speaker 1:Oh, jackson, yay, sptv channel than that. The other night. That was so entertaining. It was Marilyn, marilyn Honig, who just started a YouTube channel herself. Yes, denver, steve-o, Clearwater, chad, and one other person I'm so sorry I forgot your name and another, another SP, very hardcore SP TV fan. That is all was doing a live and, um, it was so entertaining. It was like, um, like a wrap up show, like SPTV wrap up show, like we, we had gone live or somebody had gone lined live, and then they were doing an after show, talking about what we talked about on the show, and I was so entertained. But, um, there literally are, there's a like I want to say there's like 30 channels now, and the other thing is we've got cooking channels coming, we've got now we have a craft channel craft channel sptv craft, uh coffee cults and craft channel.
Speaker 2:Folks get over there and subscribe Music, art, travel.
Speaker 1:I mean we're going to have a whole network. There are people that are going to go travel around to orgs and then send them in the videos like, hey, this is where I am, you know, you know SPTV rocks or whatever, and we'll go. We'll have a tour of all of the of the places these people go for us SPTV. Anyway, it is very entertaining. Yes, oh, here's Selena Michelle again, love my SPTV. Hit the like button, hi Osa. Nice Thank you, selena, sorry, you get the next one.
Speaker 2:All right, I got to get over there. You took me by surprise. You're muted. You're muted.
Speaker 1:It's okay, love it says. Question, weird question. What happens if two people say they weren't exact same person in past life? Who gets to claim it? Thank you, yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 2:No, neither of them do. There were probably like 50 Jesus Christ's. There were probably like 50 Jesus Christ's, 50 or you know, actually probably more than 50. Quentin or Hubbard, yeah, anyway.
Speaker 1:There were a lot of people who do seance or people who do readings. When they contact dead people, there's a sort of like you know, not really a way to get any paperwork on that, so it's like there's not much verification, it's not like oh so you were Abraham Lincoln, so what was your social security number?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, okay, thank you. Thanks for that. Sandy Yerkin's power says question Do you have to shred all your trash? Now, you know it's funny, sandy, thank you, that's a great question.
Speaker 1:When you're in Scientology, if you write anything on paper in the C organization at the base, it has to be shredded. Not only does it have to be shredded, it has to be shredded every single day because one of your coworkers could be a spy and if the shredding is left out overnight, they could steal that and turn it over to their law enforcement people that they're spying for or whatever. So all documents in Scientology are shredded every single night. They have in every area like. I worked in a manufacturing area that made cassettes and we had buckets and buckets of shredding to do every single night. So anything that's written, all these reports, all this stuff has to be shredded, okay, but not digital documents. They don't trend those for some reason. I don't know. I don't understand the the discrepancy, probably because l ron hubbard never wrote a policy about digital documents. So there's no policy to shred those um, but in our case um it's not like um, it's not like we're writing. I'm'm writing reports back and forth to Claire, so if they want to see my Home Depot receipts.
Speaker 2:Whatever I mean, I do shred documents, but only because I have an accounting firm and you know so I do shred all documents relating to bookkeeping. Yeah, exactly, but the bottom line is we have nothing to hide, as evidenced by the fact they've been spying us, on us for 18 years, and the best they can come up with is that you're a cracker, liquor honey.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, I guess there's worse things I could be. Yeah, yeah, they literally, they literally have nothing. And even if they did get ahold of our garbage, it's sort of like yeah, there's some, what do you call that? What's that? Some cinnamon toast crunch in there? There's some. There's a lot of egg cartons we eat a lot of eggs in this house Some ham, turkey chicken? I mean, it's like what are you going to dig through my garbage? I don't care, I'm not writing up documents and sticking them in there, and if I am, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 2:And even when they were buying our garbage. We got kind of a laugh about that because we had a baby in diapers at the time.
Speaker 1:We sure did. We had two At one point we had two and they were picking that up every week. And I can, and we did, to be fair, I mean, I am a kind of a prankster. So there were a few post-it notes that had phone numbers written on them, put like maybe in or around diapers every once in a while, diapers every once in a while. So just in case it was happening. Yeah, I can't imagine that. Oh, denver, steve, a question may ask you a question. I have an odd question for you. This is the question form. Right, okay, here's my question. Hi, claire and Mark also.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you, denver. I got your email, by the way. I will respond.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, okay, there we go, here we go. I'm trying to get back in the goose. Do you think, john? John Satowski, freaking Flyer, thank you. Do you think PRs are using drones to follow SPs?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 2:So I just wanted to say something on this, because when we were in LA last week, we heard this crazy story from this guy that we just randomly happened to meet for the first time and he was telling us that he parked on over by the blue buildings and he got out of his car and this drone showed up. And he was not, he's never been in Scientology. He was going to a doctor's appointment at the Cedars-Sinai Hospital. Right, he just happened to park there, he gets out of his car and, out of nowhere, this drone shows up. So, like any normal person would, he was like well, this weird.
Speaker 2:So he takes out his phone and he takes a picture and then he starts walking and two minutes later a security guard you know a Sea Org security guard shows up and says what were you doing? And he was like what do you mean? I just parked my car, I'm going to an appointment. He's like well, why did you take a picture? And the guy was like because a drone showed up out of nowhere. He's like well, let me see the picture. And the guy was like hell, no, and he's he, but it's just insane. That's that's what I thought of in response to that question. So who knows? We know they're using drones and pack at the big blue buildings in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I guess I mean I wouldn't put it past them. I'm sure the PIs. I know for a fact that the PIs were using GPS trackers for a while, so like just a little puck, a magnetic puck that you can stick on something and then it'll just keep track of that thing. And the way they're getting around this I think I found this out when I was talking to a PI is that they have these like fleet management services, which is just a software you get and you can buy five pucks or 10 pucks or 50 pucks or whatever, and you put them on all your like your UPS truck or your food delivery trucks, and and then it keeps track of what their speeds are and where they're going and all that stuff. And you just pull it up at a in a little software thing and it says a truck, one truck too.
Speaker 1:Well, thus the private investigators are doing this for uh, for doing us for uh, sps, like us on a SPTV, they stick it on a vehicle and it's just like okay, mark Headley, clear Headley, mike Rinder, and they just see where everybody's at and um, and you say well you, you heard that, are you well that? Well, ron Miscavige had one of those on his car, david Miscavige's father, who escaped from Scientology with his wife. And then they proceeded to pay private investigators tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to surveil the father of David Miscavige, and he had one of those trackers on his vehicle. So, and then, and even some of the private investigators that worked with that guy that was spying on Ron have come out and said yes, if we're following you and we lose you, then we just call the person with the software and then they just tell us where you're at and then we just go to where you're at. So this is we're not like um, I mean, we have these documents now.
Speaker 1:There's so many people that can verify and cross-check these things. So, in terms of the drones, yes, I would not put that past them for a second Tarkina Meyer, also a very frequent flyer of the channel. Thank you, tarkina. You can create a locals page and you can post them there without having the YouTube restrictions. It doesn't have to be a paywall, but that is an option as well. Oh, thank you. That is in turn.
Speaker 2:On the about the document sharing.
Speaker 1:Yes About the documents. Very good. Okay, good, let's write that down. A local on a local, a locals page. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2:Tarkina, would you please email me. We really appreciate you.
Speaker 1:Lady Pamela says question can you turn them over to the FBI or would you be afraid they would get lost? Oh no, these have been turned over to the FBI and you know that's a really good question. They've been turned over to, like, a certain FBI office. We might, might as well, turn them over to the offices. We'll look, I'll see, because these things are happening all over the place. Yeah, if there's a certain like, maybe if there's a Los Angeles FBI office, I'll turn turn the Los Angeles related files over to them. If there's a New York office, I'll turn them over to New York. I'll turn them over to all the offices, all the files over to all the offices. I don't know, but that's not a bad question. And also just so you guys know, I've given these files to multiple other people. So if anything happens to me and the files get lost, there's about 10 other people that have these files now, so the files ain't getting lost.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no really all that's going to happen now is we're making more and more efforts to consolidate and make the information usable and understandable on specific topics, because it's an overwhelming amount of information.
Speaker 1:Yes, carol Barnhart question have you talked to Mike? Actually, you know what, carol? That's a great question and I did want to figure out a way to talk about this, but I might as well do it now. I did speak with Mike. I spoke with Mike yesterday. Mike is doing amazing compared to how he was doing two weeks ago and he has started on the first stage of his treatment. And they have to all the people who've donated and to all the people that sent in support and bought merch on Mike Rinder store and Donated through the store and donated through his website. They have secured the funds for the first stage of his treatment.
Speaker 1:So I Think Mike and Christy are gonna do a video About it to let people know is as soon as Mike, christie are going to do a video um about it to to let people know as as soon as Mike is well enough to do that. But um, but yes, it's um, the treatment that he was recommended is working and he is um not doing as bad as he was two weeks ago as as as I. I mean, I, I don't. I'm not a doctor, so I couldn't tell you. Uh, you know, pain level one. I can't tell you any of that. But he, but he was, he was on. I talked to him on the phone and he sounded great and it was like wow what a relief, what a relief that is, what an amazing outpouring of support.
Speaker 1:Holy moly yeah and I'm, and when this is all said and done and Mike's totally back to battery and everything's awesome. There is some crazy things about this that happen that hopefully they'll be willing to talk about.
Speaker 1:But yes, thank you for that, carol Peggy says question Looking into your crystal ball, claire and Mark, do you think it will take 10 years plus for the FBI to connect some of the abuses and start making a dent with prosecutions? You know I hate to comment on this, just because there have been. I mean, in the 1970s the FBI raided Scientology and that raid resulted in the arrest of 11 scientology top officials that went to prison for perpetrating the largest infiltration into the united states government in its history. To this day, no one has topped scientology, not another country, not a foreign power. Scientology perpetrated the single largest infiltration in the united states government in its history. So, that being said, those 11 people went to jail. The Guardian's office, which those people were all part of, was changed. The name was changed. They got rid of the Guardian's office. Yeah, they changed the name to the Office of Special Affairs and they do the exact same thing that the Guardian's office did and they do the exact same thing that the guardian's office did.
Speaker 2:They just use private investigators and lawyers to do the dirty work on the outside and they just run them.
Speaker 1:So it's still going on. They just do it differently. Yeah, the only thing that's different now is that we are. This is the Internet. The Internet will 100 percent be the downfall of Scientology, that's I guarantee you. That Just put a could silence people and they could silo the information. So something they did to this person and something they did to this person, they wouldn't be able to talk to each other and compare notes. Now that we are able to do that, we are pretty we're pretty much able to smoke them out a lot of the time and we're also able to document a lot more things. And because we have platforms like YouTube YouTube is an anomaly for Scientology.
Speaker 1:Yes, because there's almost nothing they can do about it and we are being rewarded for doing it, so that doesn't hurt, but at the same time, it is a very effective platform to get this information out to people and to communicate with people that we would otherwise have no access to, like Scientologists that are experiencing some of the things that we're talking about, and when they hear us talking about it that it was going on 20 years ago, they get a little upset and they tend to give us a ring a ling and tell us about more stuff that's going on. So we are anything that we are hearing about that is illegal. We are giving that information to law enforcement and we are hearing about record amounts of these things and we're getting documents. We're getting these knowledge reports, these internal reports they write in Scientology. We're getting all these things that show that Scientology is aware that these things have happened, that show that Scientology is aware that these things have happened and are either covering it up or keeping it quiet.
Speaker 1:Yep Um, clearwater, chad says Maryland Haunted has a new tube channel called Maryland Haunted Coffees, crafts and Cults. There you go. We will put a link to that in the description. Please make a note of that, claire Um, and we will put a link to Maryland's channel in the subscription or in the description. We love that there are so many SPTV channels. There's Facebook, there's SPTV Facebook. What's this? Um, uh, coffee crafts and cults is a Facebook group with all these crafters in it and they're making Claire bears and feta potatoes, potatoes and xenu outfits and a whole collection back there it's out of control.
Speaker 2:Anyway. Look watch, I think there's claire bear.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there she is I think I saw, was it a potato, was it?
Speaker 2:a potato?
Speaker 1:yeah, you have one down there no, no, I understand that there was another oh no, there was the peeling, the onion I was like people are crafting vegetables scientology themed vegetables yes um, yeah, no it's, it's pretty much out of control yeah, I've got really cool bracelets and I've gotten cracker earrings and cracker necklaces and all kinds of amazing stuff.
Speaker 2:You got got a cracker blanket.
Speaker 1:I did. I did Joanna Hunt says question what was the muster like? What was the wildest muster you experienced? I know which one, mine is.
Speaker 2:Well, you go ahead. I'll think about that, because I've been at some crazy ones.
Speaker 1:I think I want to say, well, yeah, there's different kinds of crazy too. I think I want to say, well, yeah, there's different kinds of crazy too. I think the craziest one was there was I think it was a list of about 80 to 90 people that were um, just it was decided, or it had been decided or it came down from david miscavige that they that these 80 people who'd worked at the international base for decades, or 10 years or 20 years or whatever it was, and he had decided that they should be kicked off of the property and just cast away and sent to a Sea Org installation in Los Angeles. And so this list had been being worked over and worked over for months and months and months and months, and it was called the offload list. And then one night, I think it was like hey, did those people get offloaded? He asked a question and they hadn't been. And so, whatever, the latest version of that list was, those people were put on some buses and they were. They were gone by morning.
Speaker 1:They literally this happened like 11 o'clock at night and said hey, did those guys get offloaded? It was a question. He didn't say offload them, don't offload them, he just asked if they had been offloaded by this time and they put them on a bus and they just drove them off and at the morning muster there was 80 people missing, like they were just gone. And some of them had spouses missing. Like they were just gone, and some of them had spouses, some of them had children or parents or whatever at this place, and they were gone. That was it. It was just they were gone. And the people were like what? Like their spouses didn't know they were gone. They were like, oh, yeah, you know bob was gotten up in the middle of the night but I I don't know what happened to him and yeah, bob's in LA now and you're never going to see him again.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That was bizarre, like it was almost.
Speaker 2:We lost a few people on. What muster is? It's like roll call three times a day to to account for everybody. And then they do announcements and say things and yeah, and they do announcements and say things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like a midday meeting, but it's the entire crew of a sea organization. So you have breakfast at 8 to 8.30. At 8.30, there's a muster. The reason they have these musters is to count as a head count, because if you're off sleeping somewhere there's eight hours, we're not going to know where you're at.
Speaker 2:Or if you're making a run for it or you know.
Speaker 1:So they try to have a muster every three or four hours.
Speaker 2:So that's to make sure everybody is either present or accounted for.
Speaker 1:It is scientifically proven in the Sea Org that someone with a three to four hour head start will be tracked down. The eight hour head start is where we start to lose people.
Speaker 2:Oops, sorry my bad.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So they have a muster at 830. They have a muster at 1230, 530, and in some cases 11 or 1130 at night, before you secure for the night. So that's what a muster. It's just a meeting of the crew they do. Each division says all present are accounted for. Each division says all present are accounted for. And if somebody is accounted for they say this person is with a professional that's emptying the sewer pond or something. And then it just goes through every division of an organization where each division head says all of my crew are present and accounted for.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:A question on the lighter side. Lick any good crackers lately. No, I am on a no cracker diet right now. Since I have been off the crackers, I've been doing much better and I've much more regular. And if anybody would like some crackers we do have a lot of extras right at the moment. Oh so would you like some crackers? I can send them to you. Destiny salazar says I want a mystery sandwich. T-shirt claire nice, nice.
Speaker 2:All right, I'll make that is a good idea.
Speaker 1:You got to make some art which has a two pieces of bread with a mystery in the middle is that?
Speaker 2:even so, I have a question is that a scientology thing or is it a real world thing?
Speaker 1:I don't know I'm pretty sure that's a Scientology thing.
Speaker 2:Okay. So that's why people reacted when I said did you say mystery sandwich? I did yeah.
Speaker 1:Why did you do that? You slipped into your nonsense speak.
Speaker 2:That's what happens when we start talking about nonsense is you know nonsense, language comes into play.
Speaker 1:You know what is so funny about that L Ron Hubbard. He essentially said you don't want to tell somebody something without telling them the whole story, otherwise you create what's called a mystery sandwich and then that person will do whatever they can to get to the bottom of that mystery. And so the ridiculous thing about that statement is Scientology never tells you the whole story, and the only reason that half the Scientologists that are watching this video are watching is because they're finding out all these, about all these mystery sandwiches, that they always knew there was something weird happened with this person or that person or this organization, but they never, they will never be told the truth. So they come here and they find out all these crazy things. So if you give a hint that there's something else going on, which they do that in Scientology a lot to be like, oh, you would have, wouldn't you like to know what happened? Yesterday, it was like, yeah, I would. Well, I'm not going to tell you, um, anyway, so, um, so yeah, there's a lot of mystery sandwiches in Scientology that are answered here on BlownForGoodTV or BlownForGoodcom or BlownForGoodYouTube or whatever we call this thing, sptv, dropbox will work for your files.
Speaker 1:Secondly, I heard Tony mentioned about an ongoing grand jury investigation in Scientology Spill the tea. Ongoing grand jury investigation in Scientology spill the tea. Um, yeah, no, I'm not. We're not, um, we're not going to talk about anything that's going to threaten or, um, uh, jeopardize anything that's going on saying that we reported something at law enforcement. You know we did so. There's nothing wrong with that. Um, whatever law enforcement, whatever actions or investigations or whatever they're doing, we're just going to let them do that. That, that seems to be like the less meddling we need to do. As long as we come across information that may be valuable to law enforcement or government officials or senators or congressmen or whatever, we're going to turn that over and if they do something, they do something. I can't, I'm not going to be everybody's babysitter.
Speaker 2:So are we going to sit on our laurels and wait? We're going to keep doing what we're doing.
Speaker 1:We'll tell you. I'll tell you this If something happens, that's a big deal. You're going to hear about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so subscribe and hit that bell notification and you will get notified.
Speaker 1:If we're allowed to tell you some stuff. We're going to tell you some stuff and even the fact that I'm telling you about all these spy files and what's inside the files. I mean that's kind of a big deal Between the Internet the current and recent abuse of elders and children and people and cover up between that.
Speaker 2:And the organic wave known as SPTV Network. Yeah, I think you guys are going to have a bunch of content up on these channels over the next one to five years, I'd say and already for those people asking too, just the change that has happened in the last 15 years. When you first started posting on the internet about Scientology, I'll be honest, I was utterly terrified of what was going to happen. So it's definitely, we are making progress. We just don't know what the end game is. So, yeah, yep.
Speaker 1:We're doing. It's getting there, though we get there. Dean Johnson says what would happen if someone declared Co, b and SP and emailed all Scientologist. Is there any way to overthrow him? No, it doesn't work like that. He is the ultimate authority in Scientology. So it would be like the ultimate authority in Scientology. So it would be like, you know, it'd be like like some local sheriff trying to impeach the president.
Speaker 2:And not to mention the fact he has signed letters of resignation from every single executive in Scientology. So whichever one of them tried, just whip out that letter and boof they're vaporized.
Speaker 1:That's true. Yeah, justin Craig, aka LRH 2.0, says Mark, if you need someone with time to come through these for interesting stuff, my personal life is pretty mundane. That is a joke. Justin Craig, aka LRH 2.0, is in prison and I'm pretty sure he's not sending us super chats.
Speaker 2:Oh, I missed that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was a he was kind of like a career criminal type guy, the guy who decided to be L Ron Hubbard reincarnated, which he calls himself LRH 2.0. Tyler Bennett question Are there many seniors and facilities together in Los Angeles? I think you heard mention you mentioned Glendale previously. Yes, that is exactly what they're doing. They have different facilities that they're putting these people in and we're also getting more and more reports of different locations where different people are being held.
Speaker 2:So we're figuring out what to best do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, spt Scott says scumbags. Just when you think it can't get worse. Unbelievable. Yeah, there is a. There is a saying with Scientology Uh, whenever you think it's the worst, it gets worse. They all. Whenever you think it's the worst it could possibly be. No, it gets worse. It gets worse. A name they have abused my family for years, I'm sorry. A name I believe it.
Speaker 2:This one is Email me if you need help or if there's something that we can do.
Speaker 1:Okay. Leah says they're lying about elders dying to their families. Question mark there is proof. The IRS needs to prove it's not a religion. No god, anywhere near saint elizabeth. Yeah, they, they this, this. This person was told that their family member had passed away in 2004 and that person is alive. We just found out this last week. That person is alive. And so what is the deal with that? That is insane. Destiny Salazar says you both rock. That is all Okay. Thank you, destiny.
Speaker 2:Salazar. Thank you, destiny, we always appreciate seeing you here.
Speaker 1:Does Scientology do name changes to hide these people? If so, is there a particular publication they use to publish the notices? No, I don't know about any name changes the person-.
Speaker 2:Oh no, they have. They have Like Michael Probilsky.
Speaker 1:Oh that, no, no, about the elders, I don't know. Yes, they have changed the name of people so that they are harder to find. If they do escape or they do something like that they do. We do know of people that they have done that with. So, colette Millette, there's a special place in hell for these blanks. Yes, there is. Thank you for that, colette. Yeah, purple Groovy, says Claire, where's my book? Did Purple Groovy win something?
Speaker 2:Shoot me an email. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just shoot me an email. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2:Just shoot me an email and I'll track it down.
Speaker 1:I'll send you your tracking. In the last video we did, we gave something to Purple Groovy yeah.
Speaker 2:I know I'm pretty sure I sent it, but also Japan of Green Gables was asking. So just shoot me an email if you haven't received your stuff and I will send you your tracking information and that way I can make sure I didn't miss anything while we were in LA and so forth.
Speaker 1:Okay. Dora Explorer says Scientology sickens me to my core. Thank goodness you are all not giving up the fight. Freaking law enforcement sickens me as well, for not doing a damn thing. Yeah, it is a bit frustrating that, that you know. I don't know how to explain it. It's sort of like you think everything. You think everything works the way it does on the TV. These things take months, if not years, to have anything happen. So it's not like we just dusted the scene and we've got the Prince of all 17 perpetrator.
Speaker 2:No, it doesn't work like that, and we busted open the gates and we found the file. But the good news is that we, along our path, are getting far better educated on what to tell people to do and how to document it and where to report it, and so on and so forth. So we are learning incredible information that's very, very useful and that's why we're putting this out there. Reach out to us, we will respond and we will help you.
Speaker 1:We've been shooting at this dam for like 15 years and we started out with with slingshots and then we got pellet guns and we've been hit. We've been hitting this dam with stuff and it's getting to the point now that we know where the weak points in the dam are and we also know exactly which ammunition to use in that exact weak spot. And as we do this further, we're finding additional weak spots and additional ammunition.
Speaker 2:But just know to anybody out there, your voice counts. So if you have family members, you can do something about it, and please do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the other thing is we can help somebody get out if they want out. We can never get them the time back. So if you are one of these people who wants to get out, or you want to leave, or you want to to get your fam, other family member out, it really the only thing we're wasting right now is time. Um, you can spend, you can get more money back, you can get a new job. You can, you can do all that in in in the next chapter, but we can never get you back all the time. That's just being burned right now. So, uh, if there was one regret I would have, or if there was one thing I'd wished, I'd wished somebody would have told me, you know, 20 years ago, uh, or you know 20, you know, when I was first in for at the Sea Org for a year, I wish somebody would have told me then get out. Now, you know. So I wouldn't have wasted another 14 years.
Speaker 2:So, um, anyway, we're trying guys, it's time for a giveaway.
Speaker 1:You want to do this one Yep sure.
Speaker 2:Awesome. Okay, so just write merch book bobblehead, whichever you would like, and comment away, and I will. Let me just see here my computer tends to freeze still when this happens, but hold on. Okay, here we go. Five, four, three, two, and hold on, Let me catch one, Boom.
Speaker 1:Kay Williams.
Speaker 2:Merch, please. Awesome. So, kay Williams, go to the BFG, the Blown for Good merch store on this YouTube channel, pick what you would like and send me a link to that at Claire at Blown for Good dot com and I will send you the giveaway link. Very, easy.
Speaker 1:Um, Ms Kim says this is what the website would be great for. I love all these new channels. Tried 10 different ways to post the address here YouTube, giving me grief. I'll resend the email later tonight. Thanks bunches. Yeah, and there is somebody. I don't know where I saw it. I think it was in Facebook somewhere. There is a link. See if you can find it. It's a link to all of the SPTV channels.
Speaker 2:It's a it's a direct SPTV directory.
Speaker 1:Yes, sptv directory. I saw that, I've seen that somewhere too.
Speaker 2:I'll try and track it down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you, kim. Um yeah, I'm not sure. Um.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be catching up on my email this weekend, so yeah, for any for anyone saying, oh, I emailed you, did you get it? I'm sure I did. Um, we've just saying, oh, I emailed you Did you get it.
Speaker 1:I'm sure I did. We've just. Yeah, thank you for your patience. The other thing we were doing is we were doing a new BFG website, but then when we came out with the store, the store sort of replaced like 80% of the website. So we kind of are we still going to do a website?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have to touch base and figure that out. We are because we're going to make it so that on the blown for good website people can upload pics and send us stuff and things like that.
Speaker 1:That's right, so maybe, maybe we will put the documents on the blown for good website.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Maybe we'll do that, or maybe on the blown for good website we'll. It'll be a link to like a Dropbox folder that has all of the um. That's exactly what we'll do. We'll put a link to like a dropbox folder that has all of the um. That's exactly what we'll do. We'll put a link to them for dropbox and then people could just download them and read them at their willy-nilly willy if they want to go through them. There's a lot of stuff in there. I don't know if we should do that before. Well, we'll figure that it's up on exactly what files we have just yet, until we go through them to see if there's anything in there and you know that's a good question If you're a lawyer or if you're somebody in law enforcement that you'd want to look through these and you have a way to show us that you are and you don't work for LAPD, or we might have to do a background check on you to figure out which Scientology.
Speaker 2:I'm sure there are some good people in. No, I know there are, I would love for them to reach out to us and help us, because If you've got to go through these things and see what's legit, what's not legit.
Speaker 1:I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff in here.
Speaker 1:So, and some of it's it's very sensitive. A lot of it is very sensitive in nature, so it's personal stuff about people. So it's kind of. It's kind of a weird thing to turn over to somebody because there's a lot of personal stuff about a lot of people that are out there. It could be kind of used against some of them. And if you believe that some of these things are real, yep, tennessee treasure finder says question what other habits did you pick up in Scientology that you still have today? You know, I was just talking to somebody about one of these the other day. Such so embarrassing. When I was in the sea for a great deal of time, I was one of very few people who could drive a vehicle on public roads. You have to do a Scientology driving course to be able to drive once you're in the Sea, org.
Speaker 2:And it's such a unique name for the course it's called Car School.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's called Car School. You could have been a truck driver. This is the most ridiculous thing. You could have been a truck driver. This is the most ridiculous thing. You could have been a truck driver for 30 years, but once you joined the Sea Org, you can't drive unless you do Scientology car school.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The course that L Ron Hubbard required that somebody do in order to drive a vehicle. It's ridiculous. Anyway, I was one of the very few people who had done car school, that worked in the cinematography division, so I would always be driving a 15 passenger van with all these crew in it, or a big lighting truck with uh, or some vehicle dually with the trailer on the back. I could drive all these vehicles Anyway. Um, I would get given um cash to buy gas, and if you get given a hundred dollars and you turn in a receipt for $97 and 46 cents, you got to come up with the change when you turn in your accounting and you got to tape it to these pieces of paper. So I was getting thousands and thousands of dollars of of gas money when I was driving and paying for all these giant vehicles to drive.
Speaker 1:Drive all over when we were shooting these internal training films for Scientology, and so whenever I would go to a gas pump, I would always top it to a dollar, and so if it wasn't going to be full, I would try to stop before it would over. When I, I would always try to stop at an even zero, zero, and this went on for years and years. Anyway, a few years ago, I finally stopped putting in enough gas to get to zero, zero. I mean, I haven't been in the sea. I haven't been in the seahorse since 2005 and I've been every vehicle. Every time I filled up, I've always got it right to zero, zero. And I finally, like about, I want to say about a year or two ago, I was just like what am I doing? Why am I? Why is my life being run by this gas pump?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's the only thing I can think of that I used to do, that, I still do, or still did until recently.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What about you? You got to answer something too. I'm not just talking about my stupid gas pump OCD.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. You know the whole quote. Hubbard quote speed of particle flow alone determines power. Unquote. And I don't know. I just have a thing about trying to respond to everything like instantly. But I don't know, I don't know, I have to think about that one. It's a really good question.
Speaker 1:Yeah, v super sticker.
Speaker 1:Thank you for the super sticker. V. Sp cracker liquor fan with all the evidence. How on earth does law enforcement justify turning a blind eye? You know there are, so it's a good question. Sp cracker liquor fan. There, the cracker liquor fan, um, there there's so many moving parts of who's the victim, who's the uh, the the perpetrator.
Speaker 1:What county did it happen in? Is it a federal crime? Is it a state crime? When did it happen? What are the statutes and limitations? It's it.
Speaker 1:You almost have to be, um, almost have to be a judge, a police officer, a lawyer. You have to be all these things to navigate Well, okay. Well, what's the crime that's been committed here? Who was it committed against? Is that? Can we talk to that person? Is there any evidence? It's a document that says we, and almost all these documents are this is what we plan to do or this is what we did. And they have the phone. Like when you say here's Mark's phone records for the past four months, and then you have all the phone records for the past four months, you're like how is this not something you can get in trouble for? And here's who he talked to on these days. And here's a summary of all the people that he you know. It's just like how it is frustrating. How do you go Like, no, nothing, nobody. Oh, when did it happen? 2006. You know, you're like, wow.
Speaker 1:Nina G Olson says if somebody claimed they were a garbage collector in a previous life, would the auditor look down on them? No, it doesn't work like that. Like Scientologists believe that you've been a lawyer, you've been a doctor, you've been a murderer, you've been a, a murder victim. You've been, you've been everything. You've lived millions of lives on on other planets and other galaxies and other solar systems. And this is just like tiny, tiny speck on your what they call time track, and so it's almost like everybody has done everything and everybody's been here and done that and done bad things and done good things. Who cares? Like? It's almost like no one cares. It's that's literally like when you assault somebody, it's like, yeah, whatever you've been assaulted, you've assaulted people. Whoopty, doopty, do like.
Speaker 2:That's literally how they look at it yeah, they're like all that matters is the work scientology is doing. Now everything else is justified. Just like in harry potter it's for the greatest good yep.
Speaker 1:donna dwyer says about the drones. I wondered for a while while you didn't send a drone to where you thought Shelly might be. Oh, somebody has absolutely sent a drone there and that is on the SPT. We got to find this directory, the SPTV directory, at the very I think it's at the bottom. It has the link to the YouTube channel, the guy that has the drone, and this guy has shot amazing drone footage at um, at every single um major Scientology facility, or even this mostly the secret ones is the ones he's done. The best footage of Gina D says there's an SP cooking channel. There is. It's in the works, so we're getting some recipes together, but when it's good.
Speaker 2:We'll share it when it's good and ready.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's coming.
Speaker 1:We've been making amazing and we've been making the recipes on it Amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, there's a clear it's not us, but it's it's not us, but we made the.
Speaker 1:We made. We've been making every single recipe we've seen on there so far. Oh, I unchecked a super chat. I'm sorry, guys, I didn't know what happened to it. It went into the leaf and it was before 4.47. See if you can find the one right before 4.47 pm. Okay, lafanda Grocklinga, I know you've been busy, but I missed you. Much love from Germany. Keep up the great work deconstructing the web of secrets of this disgusting cult. Thank you, lafanda. Yeah, amanda, yeah, we have, we're, we're still here. You just don't, you just don't get to see us all the time. We've been so busy. We've wanted to do lives a bunch of times, but it's just like you know, we're like nine o'clock at night. I'm like, should we do a video? I'm tired.
Speaker 2:I'm exhausted. I didn't even put makeup on the other day. I was like, oh, no hell, no yeah.
Speaker 1:It just gets long. No, hell, no, yeah, it just gets long.
Speaker 2:Sorry, long, long days I had like 20 hours of phone calls dealing with a certain matter. It was exhausting and it's okay. It's okay.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Some things we cannot always do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, amanda Young says just wanted to say you are all amazing. Receive my copy of Blown for Good this week. Keep, receive my copy of blown for good this week. Keep up the wonderful work. Much love from louisiana. Thank you very much, amanda, we appreciate it. Um, yeah, we've. Um, we've been getting, um, we've been getting orders a lot of goods. Um, people are coming to the uh blown for good merch store and picking up. You can get a book there. You can get all this. Uh, where's shelly sptv merch?
Speaker 2:and I'm gonna catch up on all our thank you messages right after this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and Claire, she get a personal message from Claire. She'll thank you on it. But, yeah, we're getting a lot of comments and people coming to the merch store and all that, so thanks a lot. We appreciate all that Miss Kim says. The email I'm sending from is SPTV networks. Having an SPTV hub for everything will be great. Yes, um, I think it would be amazing. Um, we're working on it, we're working on it. And when I saw this directory, it was so good too. Um, it, it, I can't, I don't, I didn't count. I should have counted how many were in there, but we'll put a link to it in the description. I just found the one that you missed. Oh good, perfect, just star it and I'll hit it. Matt, any chance they've infiltrated again, but on a lower scale? Any chance they've infiltrated again, but on a lower scale? Who? Oh, the Scientology? Oh, so what?
Speaker 2:I was going to say on this is like, for example, we have heard recently that an ex-seric member that we knew is working in a da's office of a certain state. Um, so we're just kind of gonna systematically document these things, and so if you know of a scientologist working in a high position of authority where damage could be done or crimes could be covered up, then let us know. We'll file that away in a directory and continue to share that with people that need to know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I will say in these documents, because the question is any chance they've infiltrated again, but on a lower scale? In these documents there are many mentions and it's in the James. There are many mentions and it's in the James. I think it might be in one of those James Barber documents. But they say this lawyer or this individual or whatever this person is that they're in contact with or getting trying to get in contact with has a good line to the district attorney in this area. So they mentioned that in a lot of these different documents where, like, if this goes to prosecution, we have somebody there that we can talk to and and and if you think about it, this James Barber guy, he did what he did with a minor and he got like 38 days in jail or something like that or whatever the amount was, and some probation and Scientology knew that he was going to, that something bad was going to happen. But 38 days to me seems like not a lot for what he did and for what they well, but also for what they know he did that wasn't known about by the court. So there are a lot of those people mentioned in these documents. So some of the people that are going to get outed in these documents are people that are enabling Scientology for tickets to the John Travolta premiere, or their wife got to go to a party and dance with John Travolta, or they got to get a picture with Tom Cruise or whatever they're doing, whatever they think is gonna happen for them, that they're gonna benefit. So they'll look the other way when one of these Scientology cases comes across their desk. Those people are gonna be outed. And there are also some media people that are gonna get outed in these documents for playing games and not doing stories about Scientology, in the hopes that they might get an interview with David Miscavige at some point.
Speaker 1:Thank you for that question, matt. Michael Lake says long time viewer, first time chat. Thank you for your incredible work. Serious question With the Internet, how are Scientologists and Sea Org sheltered from the truth? Do they truly not Google stuff? 95% of Sea Org members do not have access to the internet. They don't have phones, they don't have computers that are hooked up to the internet. They're on a Scientology internal network that doesn't go to the outside world unless they have special access. And in the case that they do have special access to the internet, it's filtered. And if, even if they search the word Scientology on Scientology's network, it will say access denied and they will get no. It'll just be like an error page will come up.
Speaker 2:In fact remember Catherine Olson told us that they even stopped allowing Sea Org members to even go to their own hate sites. They wouldn't even allow them to look at Scientology's hate sites.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so bad that in the C organization, c org members are not allowed to own iPhones because iPhones do not allow you to put the Scientology spy slash filter software that Android phones do, so that they can see your history and you can't erase or control that. Scientology demands that any Sea Org member that has a phone has an Android phone and they install a specific type of app on it so Scientology can be big brother for that phone and see what they're doing and what and. And there's no way for them to circum the person, the individual, to circumvent that science. So that's for Sea. Or circumvent the person, the individual, to circumvent that, so that's for Sea Org members, the people that sign the billionaire contracts For civilian Scientologists, just your people that are involved with Scientology and pay to do counseling or pay you're active in Scientology.
Speaker 1:It's it's common that you would regularly be interviewed or in a session where if you did something you shouldn't do, it would come up and you would be um, you would have an impulse to tell them, so that whenever something's not going right in Scientology in your life, it's because you did something, and if you did something you got to tell them what you did. So if a Scientologist went on the internet and looked at some stuff like SPTV, youtube or something like that, the next time they would go in for one of these interviewed they would be compelled to tell them. And if they did tell them, it could cost them tens of thousands of dollars in further interviews to find out every single possible instance that they'd done this in the last 25 years, and they have to pay for that. So it's very beneficial, if you're a scientologist, to don't be. Don't let those sandwiches, don't let your appetite get too, too worked up, don't have any hankering for any of these mystery sandwiches.
Speaker 1:That mystery sandwich is going to be the most expensive sandwich you donate, so, um. So it's sort of like this. There's like a. I want to say there's like a delineation when you are a Scientologist and you're willing to take that jump, you're already 95% out If you're willing to go to what in Scientology they call it the dark side. If you go to the dark side and that's the side of what's what are all these past members saying about Scientology and all the nonsense that's happening Once you see the power, once you taste the power of the dark side, you're never going back.
Speaker 2:And I must say, for a dark side, it's awfully light and bright and wonderful out here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ironically, it's a lot lighter than the not dark side. Yeah, yeah, no. And also there are no Jedis in Scientology, so the only people who have power are the ones on the dark side. I mean, I could clear a whole store of Scientologists in about 20 seconds. As soon as I walk in, we're scattered like roaches. That was a great question, michael. Thank you for that. Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 1:So to sum it up, uh, if you're in the seawork and you look on the internet, it's filtered, and if you do in the seawork, they find out you were looking. You get in really, really big trouble. You could go to the rpf, the rehabilitation project force, the labor camp or reprogramming camp, and if you're a public scientologist, it's just going to be very expensive and you do face the chance of being declared an SP if you do, depending on what you looked at and what you did on the Internet. Yeah, denver Stevo says, speaking of this community's love for Mike, join us on June 26th for a 10 hour chat Up all night for the love of Mike. Immediately following, monday night, live at Clearwater Chad's and Denver Stevo's places. These guys are amazing. Clearwater Chad did a aftermath fundraiser one of these Chad-a-thons and he raised, I think it was like in the end it was like $2,000.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:I think he raised $2,000, the Aftermath Foundation, and now they're doing a fundraiser for Mike, so a chat-a-thon.
Speaker 2:Awesome, for the love of Denver, steve-o invited us to jump on there for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yeah, June 20th We'll be. I'll be here for June 20th.
Speaker 2:I mean obviously not for 10 hours.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm not. I might do it. I might do a 10 minute segment. I don't know that. I'm going to do a 10, 10 hours, that's a lot. Yeah, no, I logged in. I've been logging in where I can. When I see, oh, somebody's live, I'll go in there and send them a super chat or something like that. But thank you for that. We'll put a link to the description. Michelle Carpenter Love, love, hate that I'm late, but a love from the SPTV Discord yes, oh yeah. And for people that are into Discord, I know that's kind of I'm an old fuddy-duddy. I think it's a young thing these.
Speaker 2:Discord things. I have like this aversion I keep intending. Every time Michelle comments, I'm like, oh, that's right, I have an email, I better go click on the link and then yeah, send me.
Speaker 1:send me a thing to it too, if you can, and I'll go check it out. I'm not, you know, I could spend. Some of those things are like black holes, so I tend to stay away from them in case I might fall.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I didn't do Twitter for like eight years and still now I don't really. I just go on there every once in a while to promote my next where Shelley video or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But anyway.
Speaker 1:OK, let's see Um question. Have you seen the docs? Skinny, happy people shiny happy people. Shiny happy people. Skinny happy people. Um, they have a broken. That was a Freudian slip on my part, um, cause I'm a big fat. So, hey, um, have you seen the docs? Uh, shiny happy people. They have broken child labor laws and are probably still are. So your work, claire, will help children and other cults. Yes, I've heard about this. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2:I haven't seen it either, but it's on my list.
Speaker 1:Yes, I've seen news about it. Jeff Waltz says merch idea signed box of crackers. Can I be the first? No, I'm not doing that. Sorry, jeff. That would require me buying and selling crackers, which I am not going to do because I I'll eat them. I'm going to eat them, I can't lick them. By the way, this cracker licking thing is so nonsense. I tried to lick these crackers. I could not do it, I had to eat them. Hi, mark and Claire Love you guys. Keep fighting the good fight.
Speaker 2:Yes, thank, you, Marilyn, we love you too.
Speaker 1:What were you going to say?
Speaker 2:Oh, I was just going to say we have. Now, in August we will have been married 31 years and I have never seen you lick a cracker with the exception of the footage you did for Kelly Copter for that trailer.
Speaker 1:It was such a bizarre thing, oh my God. Oh shoot. I did another one, 509 right before 509. Jld is me. Mike support vid do today at Denver. Stevo, mike support vid do today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Denver Stevo asked for people to do like a short 30 seconds.
Speaker 1:Oh yes.
Speaker 2:Mike and send it to me at DenverSte.
Speaker 1:Steve oh dot com I think Okay, well, you got to go to his channel to see. Thank you for that. Jld is me, juliana Bittencourt says. Just so you remember who the other team, sptv never ends, is. Oh, okay, thank you. Yeah, there's a ton of people that watch these channels. I was telling you earlier there's a ton of people that are in Scientology. They have a relative or they used to be in the Sea Org. I want to say 95% of those people that watch the channel have never had anything to do with Scientology. They just want to keep updated on what's going on. Oh, here's another one. Jld is me. Spv channel list at DBNC on community page Okay, I'm not sure what that means. Days. But is me SPV channel list at DB and C on community page? Okay, I'm not sure what that means but not confused, oh perfect.
Speaker 1:Awesome, there you go. Oh, I see DB and C Nice. Is that his new name now I know his last one got deleted or something. I guess that's his new one. Dora, explore the list of SBT just on days, but not confused community. Something is, I guess that's his new one, door, explore the list of SBT just on days, but not confused community. Thank you, door. Um. And then, uh, melanie Johnson says so glad you are exposing these awful things. Prayers for these vulnerable victims. Claire, you are the sweetest. Wish I'd been blessed with a sister like you. Um, I wish I'd been blessed with a sister like Claire.
Speaker 1:Uh, my sisters don't hate videos about me on Scientology websites um, fat cats heaven question of scientology computer systems ever been hacked? Yes, they have. Um, that's a story for another day. And um, there was a we should get jackson should do the video on that about the whole income hacking thing and all the people that went down there and oh, yeah, I don't think anybody's ever done a video about that.
Speaker 2:No, not in detail. And the guy Tom Rommelhart, who was under full 24-7 security watch for more than a year.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh, my goodness, jackson would be so good to do a video on that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jackson, if you're watching.
Speaker 1:Do a video on that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Anyway, I mean that's content that could take up like 20 videos. Yeah, there there's. I mean that's that's content that could take up like 20 videos. Yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 1:Um question, mark do you miss your motorcycle, do you still ride? Um, I do miss my motorcycle, but not that much, Cause I bought the exact same motorcycle all over again, even in the same amount of miles. It was the exact same color. The motorcycle that I had that I escaped on, I sold to Universal Studios for Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift and it was one of the Yakuza I think that's the Japanese street gang. It was one of their motorcycles.
Speaker 2:As was mine, by the way, because, remember, I had the same motorcycle and we sold it to the same people.
Speaker 1:That's right. We did Yep. We sold it to the same people, that's right.
Speaker 2:We did Yep.
Speaker 1:We sold them both bikes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because we had. We both had Yamaha TW200 motorcycles.
Speaker 1:I totally forgot. We sold your bike at the same time.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Huh, that's crazy. Yes, but I went when we got to Colorado. I missed it so much that I found the exact same year, color scheme, everything and I bought it. So, if you didn't know, I have the same exact bike that I had that I escaped on and I do ride. I'm kind of like a weekend warrior. I'll ride like I'll put around. I don't go on the highway or anything, I just drive around town, maybe like on a Sunday or something like that, with one of the boys we hang out on and go go somewhere. Um, I unclicked the Andy fabulous one, if you can find that one. Sorry, it was the Andy fabulous, uh oh my gosh honey.
Speaker 1:I know, I don't know why I'm out of practice. What?
Speaker 2:was the time of it.
Speaker 1:Um, it was uh before four, uh before five, something, I don't know. I'm just in the middle. No, just Andy Fabulous Stacey. Why does the church have a giant cross across their buildings? An insult to the cross? You both are awesome. Yeah, they have some big nonsense Like. The reason they have a cross is it's an eight-pointed cross, because it represents each of the eight dynamics, their urges towards survival. They made up some silly hoopla to uh make it a religious cross.
Speaker 1:But yes, scientology is a cult masquerading as a bit, uh, uh, operating as a business masquerading as a religion. I think, uh, uh, brian Seymour uh said that one time. It's very accurate. Here we go, arnie Lopez. Ot levels equals the ultimate mystery sandwich. It really does In Scientology. That's the mystery. There's a mystery sandwich they don't want you to have, and then there's mystery sandwiches they want you to have. So they want to tell you all these amazing things that happen on these OT levels, but they never tell you what the OT levels are. In Scientology, ot stands for operating Thetan, and as you go up these different levels of operating Thetan, you're supposed to get like okay, now I can control stuff with my mind, now I can control other people, now I can do this Now. I can move objects. Objects, yeah. None of that stuff ever happens and there ain't no Scientologist controlling objects with their mind. And if they are, they ain't in Scientology, they're in a dream world. Stacy Y says hope. The Yorkshire pudding recipe is on the new cooking show we'll get it, it done.
Speaker 2:We'll make that we're going to send that to them.
Speaker 1:I can't wait to share. We could even do it here. We could do the recipe. No, we'll figure that out, but that's on there. We've got some strings. We can pull over it. Sp cooking show, whatever it's going to be called.
Speaker 1:St Stacey, why? Thank you very much for that. I want to get some Yorkshire pudding right now. Quantum guy, with all the abuse that DM inflicts on people, why has not anyone lost it and started wailing on him? Usually because he's got a bunch of big tough guys around him and most of the people that he picks on are people that he knows are not going to hit him back, or he's pretty sure they're not going to hit him back, and if they do, then the thugs will step in. But I don't know, man. I'd really like to see what's happening. I'd love to be a fly on the wall recently, because you know, I don't, wouldn't, I wouldn't doubt that somebody somewhere recently has been like okay, enough's enough. Somebody could have smacked that guy, give him a good little slapper.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's why he doesn't hang out at the Gillen-Hotspur headquarters anymore. Something went down.
Speaker 1:Somebody might have did a little smackity, smack, smack. Obi O'Brien says we've missed you guys. Welcome back, thank you. Like I said, we haven't been anywhere. We just uh, we just, we're busy, we're trying to do what we're trying to do. The videos are kind of, by the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, by the way you, I just I was gonna say something two comments ago. It's amy lopez, not arnie arnie you said arnie, it was amy, it's oh, oh okay, well, sorry just letting you know, amy arnie gotcha amy beachy beachy.
Speaker 1:Tara says does dm know about every sp declare? He's throwing out people left and right? He was so paranoid who blew? I do that to my child's android. Yes, um, you know what he really does. Know most people that are declared?
Speaker 2:I want to say well, yeah, because he's taken away anyone else's authority to do that it's really hard.
Speaker 1:It's actually hard to get declared a suppressive person without david miscavige either knowing about it or being involved in the reason why you're getting declared. I don't think there's random people that are getting declared SPs that David Miscavige doesn't know something about them. So yeah, I'd say that he does know.
Speaker 2:Definitely not of Sea Org members, maybe at lower levels.
Speaker 1:Maybe, yeah, like a public person that you know went to the press or something, but I don't know. Even that is pretty rare and yeah, and the reason he can know about it is because there are not that many of them. We're talking about tens of thousands of people, so it's not that are in Scientology and there could be, you know, maybe a hundred that get declared every year, whatever. Uh, two and a half percent of 25,000 is that's how many people are.
Speaker 2:Oh no, their algorithm is is way out of whack now with SPTV. They're believing in floods.
Speaker 1:Yes, hey guys, I would love to hear the SPTV crew speak Scientologies together. If you dream about the Sea Org, is it all abbreviations? No, I don't. Uh, I haven't you dream about the Sea Org? Is it all abbreviations? No, I don't. I haven't dreamt about the Sea Org. You know, I'll tell you something that's really crazy, guys. I used to have nightmares all the time about Scientology and being back there and my kids were somehow locked up and I would have nightmares all the time. Once I wrote my book and the more we talk about it, I don't ever, I can't remember. I mean, it's at least been months since I've had a Scientology nightmare where I used to have them every single night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had one two nights ago. Because of this recent stuff, that's been going on, it was all related to that and I was like, but yeah, when I was talking to Catherine Spolino the other night on our All Things Scientology with Amy Scobie she's the author of the Bad Cadet she was saying the same thing. She was like she had nightmares and then she wrote her book and it really helped with that. So I was like, oh, mark says that all the time I got to hurry up and finish my book.
Speaker 1:Darn it to hurry up and finish my book. It really does it kind of just, you know, just washes the nonsense away. Yeah, I hope TC watches these SP channels. I don't think he is. I think that's in relate that TC means Tom Cruise. I don't think he is. But yeah, hopefully he is. But I doubt that he is. Debbie Johnston. I finished your book this past week and I totally cried at the end, picturing you meeting Claire at the bus station. What an amazing story for your family and your children and future generations. Yeah, that is that is probably the best part of the book is, is we when, after I break out, a few weeks later I break Claire out and they try to intercept her and they meet her in Vegas?
Speaker 2:And they called you and told you it wasn't coming.
Speaker 1:Yes, they called me and said they had her and she was going back with them. And then they told her that they had gotten me back and I was on my way back. So they told each of us the opposite story, so that either I would go back and then she would leave, or that she wouldn't leave and I would come back. It was oh my goodness, you got to read it Boneforgoodcom or boneforgoodstorecom. Marianne, just want to thank you for going above and beyond to make this world a better place. A lot of YouTubers, even SPTV, are doing this for mainly monetary reasons. Again, thank you. Yeah, I mean, I wish I could make a living doing this, but this is sort of like a side thing that we do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, plus we both like what we do in real life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not. I make way more money doing other stuff than to do this, and that's why we, legitimately, that's why we don't do, you know, 78 videos a week. But we're doing, we are working on stuff that we can talk about and we're not doing, you know, if we don't have anything to tell you guys, it's like why? Why should we do a video? Let's, let's have some good stuff to talk about. If we're going to, uh, if we're going to talk about it, Yep, Um, Seneca says Denver Stevo is putting together a video greeting card for Mike. Vids from all of us. Today is the last day to submit vids to Denver Stevo. That's very nice. Yeah, we talked about that a little earlier. Lori plays. Claire knows every inch of Mark's cracker licking. She does.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's in a relation to the CNN. Show that the Inchwives, the Scientology Inchwives, Anderson Cooper. History of Violence.
Speaker 1:There you go. Joanie Cummings, two of my favorite people, question. Tony Cummings, two of my favorite people Question how can one the help the people who are coming out of Church of Scientology, who has limited resources? You can go to the Aftermath Foundation. The Aftermath Foundation was created to help people that are either trying to escape Scientology or have just escaped Scientology, and they need to because they're friends and family and business associates and everything we're all Scientology connected. They need to because they're friends and family and business associates and everything we're all Scientology connected. They need to get new resources or be able to get a job.
Speaker 1:Some of the people that we've helped have never driven a car. They don't have a GED, they don't, they didn't go to school, they haven't lived in the real world. They don't know how to credit card works, they don't know how to use a cell phone or you know. These people are like Starman OK, if you ever saw the movie Starman with Jeff Bridges. These people have, in a lot of cases, particularly Sea Org members, these Sea Organization members that have signed a billion years. Some of these people have been in the Sea Org for the past 30 years, since they were 15 years old. They've never lived in the real world. 15 years old, they've never lived in the real world, so it's like somebody coming out of prison after 50 years and they have to be re acclimated to society.
Speaker 1:That's what the aftermath help foundation helps with. And if you go to the aftermath foundationorg you can sign up to be a volunteer. Which is like hey, we need a guy picked up from Philly at this corner in Philadelphia and brought to the the you know the airport, so we can fly him to where his mom lives, or you know whatever. Um to hey, we've got a guy who needs some winter jackets. Anybody size 46, that's got a winter jacket they can donate. You know, just dumb stuff like that. You could be on that mailing list for the volunteers. Whenever we need something, we send an email, blast out to depending on what you've volunteered for, we send something out to those people to ask them for something.
Speaker 2:Yep, it's pretty awesome. We have like thousands of volunteers at this point.
Speaker 1:Yes, and you can also just donate. If you don't want to do any of that nonsense, you can just say okay, I'll here's 50 bucks or here's 10 bucks or here's five bucks. Linda S at blown forget Didn't see message show up in chat. Question reporting dead elders. Are they cashing social security, medicare checks? Federal case would be looked into. Maybe their greed will get them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, basically what they're doing is they're putting elderly people in um, I'm not going to say facilities but places, say facilities but places.
Speaker 1:And then those places are getting that social security as payment for staying there and in some way money's going back to Scientology to pay down like just paying interest on credit cards.
Speaker 1:And so if they get somebody $80,000 in credit cards that they know is being diagnosed with a terminal illness so they're going to pass away in the next six months to two years, they put them in this place, they get all these credit cards and then the disability is just keeping everything going and then when that person passes away, the debt disappears. That person passes away, the debt disappears. So if this hasn't, if this wouldn't have happened on multiple occasions and different, various scenarios, I wouldn't say that this is a prevalent thing. But we've been hearing about so much of it from so many different places and locations and people and sources, and it's been happening over I want to say, like a 10 year period where we've been hearing these things happening. It's almost the same story in every single instance and it's usually for anywhere from 25,000 to $200,000 worth of money that they were able to get out of this elderly person.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Thank you, linda, not a sheeple. Not a sheeple. So glad to hear I got my mug T-shirt and hoodie. I hope my meager Canadian dollars will help Mike. He deserves many more healthy years. Yes, absolutely. Thank you for everyone who sent in support for Mike and hopefully this first stage will take care of it and if there's a second stage or there are multiple stages, we'll let you know if we need to. You know, fire back up the fundraising machine here. Yep, oh, here it is. Does Mike need any more for this? He is so loved. Love you both and I'm so happy to see you tonight. Thank you, angelina.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Yes, please let us know when if Mike needs more funds. Yes, thank you, love it. I've been loving the channel. My local library has a copy for the diagnostic book by good old LRH oh, the diagnostic book Besides the book by Miss Scavage's dad. That's so awesome. Yeah, you know that is. Another thing which they can't really stop is we have so many ex members that are writing books and documenting their time in Scientology and that is really the thing that turned me to do. This channel was Patrick Bet David that I did an interview with. He was talking about leaving behind a legacy and documenting your life and this kind of thing and I thought you know what? We should totally document the Scientology nonsense and then, no matter what happens, future generations and other people see we, we did everything we could but, despite what happens in the future, we, we tried.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we did.
Speaker 1:Thank you for that, Haley. Stephanie Hutchison. Hey, Stephanie.
Speaker 2:Hey, Stephanie.
Speaker 1:I used to call her Stefani, like I call.
Speaker 2:Like Cassie and Casey. Casey, Cassie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I will be hosting Mike Rinder's Thursday Funnies column on my blog just until he's back on his feet and can take back the reins. Well, thank you, that's awesome, amazing, yeah, there's so many people that.
Speaker 2:I'll add. I'll make a note. I'm sure Goldie is posting the link, but we can put it in the video description for this as well.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Okay, did we do another giveaway. Did we do a third giveaway?
Speaker 2:We didn't yet no.
Speaker 1:Are we supposed to? Oh no, it's at the two-hour mark.
Speaker 2:We'll do that Well yeah, I think we finish up our comments and then we can do it at the show finale.
Speaker 1:I like it. I like it, I'm going to roll with it. Sweet, here we go. Kitty and Lou Question how many people? Kitty and Lou question how many people do you think stay in due to pride? I know my parents and 100% grandparents raised in the fifties and sixties would never publicly look a fool. Yeah, there's definitely a ton of folks that don't want anything to do with them and don't give them money, don't participate in anything, but they they're never going to go out and publicly say we don't, we're not Scientologists because they dedicated the last 50 years to this nonsense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the psychological phenomenon of sunk cost traps, sunk cost trap, and. But I will say that, even despite that, more and more people are willing to wake up. And every time we expose a new thing, some new person goes wait a minute. That cannot be. A church can't be doing that. You know, it's never too late to get out, never, ever too late.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was talking to somebody who was a Scientologist the other day and the thing that broke the kind of the barrier for them or made him cross over to the dark side was when they found out that a lot of things that Scientology had said that LRH created he never created. And I was thinking about it like, oh yeah, that's I mean L Ron Hubbard essentially crowdsourced Scientology. So they have this thing in Scientology called study technology where you look up misunderstood words and you do demonstrations in clay and and there's like a thing called a skipped gradient and it's the barriers to study what to study technology is based on. Yeah, l Ron Hubbard never thought this up. He didn't make this. A couple that was in Scientology figured this out and then they wrote up the whole subject and they sent it to him. He declared them suppressives for squirreling Scientology policies and then codified what they had written into the study technology and he wrote it as he was the author of it and that's the same thing You'll find if you start looking into this.
Speaker 1:Ron Miscavige did this. When he left, ron Miscavige knew that his son was a piece of work and it was not doing what he thought L Ron Hubbard would do. But he believed that L Ron Hubbard was genuine and his work was of value. And I said that's bullshit. And he said, well, I'm going to find out what he created and what he didn't create. And he proceeded to identify all these key parts of Scientology that Hubbard just stole from some other thing, including Scientology itself is like some German book written in like 1904 or something.
Speaker 1:Anyway, but so, but this thing, was this person, that this individual Scientologist that's the thing that flipped her to the other side was like, wait a minute, the L's, which is like this auditing you do in Florida, which is really popular Scientology service, yeah, was written by this guy that was declared a suppressive person, called. What was that guy? The big SP guy, david?
Speaker 2:Mayo.
Speaker 1:David Mayo is the one who wrote the auditing levels, the L's in Scientology. They still do them to this day. L Ron Hubbard had nothing. This guy did these on L Ron Hubbard and then L Ron Hubbard said these are great, I want you to write these up and we'll do these as a Scientology service To this day. The thing the documents that show you how to do these levels are written by David Mayo. They are not written by L Ron Hubbard. So there's all sorts of things in Scientology that L Ron Hubbard just stole from other people and when Scientologists find that out, they're like well, wait a minute, you know like they're messing with people, they're abusing things. And this L Ron Hubbard guy didn't even come up with any of this stuff. He just made it up and then stole a bunch of stuff and you're like what?
Speaker 2:Yeah, which. The book Barefaced Messiah by Russell Miller is amazing To me. Anyone who's ever been a Scientologist or whoever wants to know anything about L Ron Hubbard's actual life should read that book.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not the Scientology version. No, oh, here we go. Here's the Andy Fabulous one that got deleted. Claire, still does KRs on Mark Tough habit to break. Yes, see what I'm saying. Isn't it weird that was the comment that got deleted. Maybe I didn't.
Speaker 2:I know, when I found out I was like oh brilliant.
Speaker 1:Here we go. Maybe I didn't delete the comment. I just saw that it got deleted. Now we know the truth, holy moly. For the record, I do not really write a lot when I was there.
Speaker 2:Oh, stop it. Oh my gosh Insert eye roll.
Speaker 1:Oh, I think we already read this one, or maybe it's another one. Joni Cummings, you two are my favorite people. Thanks for all you do. Send love both of you and to Mike and Christy.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Thank you, Joni.
Speaker 1:Kim Loss, my friend was declared less than two weeks ago. Kim lost. My friend was declared less than two weeks ago. She wasn't informed, but her family and all but one friend unfriended her on Facebook. I thought that they weren't doing that currently. Any info?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, kim, maybe email us. They are doing that currently are doing that currently the. What they're not doing is giving the person a written piece of paper that says that they're declared a suppressive person, which is ironic, because even that is a violation of hubbard policy because, quote if it isn't written, it isn't true well, to be fair, they're showing the people and then they're not letting them have a copy of it and they're not letting them bring a phone. Yeah, maybe they're not even showing it to them anymore.
Speaker 2:Or reading it, who knows? But either way, kim, if we can do anything to help, let us know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Destiny Salazar says at some point, DM will be in a cult of one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's not. That's not not too far from the truth.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Walter Zikanowski question Can you talk about how Scientology is working to save the world? Do they really do a lot of charitable work? No, they don't. The little charitable work they do is usually photo ops, Like yeah, they have a lot of pictures of them at ground zero handing out water bottles, and then the other things they do is at at disaster sites. They do disaster relief, which is them giving like very light back rubs at best.
Speaker 2:And it's funny we were remember we were talking about this the other night the it's so ironic to me that the time that we volunteer for the aftermath foundation, we do more to actually help people.
Speaker 1:Scientologists.
Speaker 2:Scientologists than we ever did when we were in Scientology. It's just so crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and people, you know, when you say you're helping somebody, um, you know, it's one thing to you know, sometimes people just need somebody to say I'm here for you, that's it, that's all they need. They just need the support to say listen, you know what, if you need anything, I'm here and I'll give you whatever you need. That's not something that happens in Scientology. So even if you have a family member that's in Scientology and they and you don't know if they want to leave or if they want to stay, even if you just say, listen, you know, if you ever need anything, I'm here for you. What they want to stay, even if you just say, listen, you know, if you ever need anything, I'm here for you. What doesn't matter what it is, I'm here for you.
Speaker 1:That goes a long way. That's just. I mean that goes a long way just in life, but in Scientology that's very, very rare to to be that way. If somebody does something against the ways of Scientology, if you do, if you do something that's not in Scientology's best favor, you're dead to them, like that's it, it's over. And so if there is somebody in the outside world that said, hey, if you need anything, I'm here for you. It's very likely that if they're in a bind, they're going to come and talk to you, and that's just good advice for anybody. If you know somebody in your life and you haven't talked to them at all and you care about them, just let them know that you're there for them and that you know you don't know how that could affect them and their whatever struggles personal struggles are going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you said earlier, the one thing you can't do is take back time.
Speaker 1:Casey, casey, casey, since I was summoned. Cassie, cassie, cassie, since I was summoned. Love you guys. Oh my gosh, you're the best. Cassie, cassie, cassie, cassie 429. Two cases in a row pronounce my name, lol, cassie, thank you cassie, thank you, cassie429.
Speaker 2:Say my name.
Speaker 1:I should. Whenever this one, I should always call her Cassie429.
Speaker 2:Yes, there you go, Cassie. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Richard Dineen. Oh, that's funny. Thank you, Richard Dineen. Thank you.
Speaker 2:We appreciate it.
Speaker 1:I think that's a code. I know what that is, maria DeJesus Gutierrez. 8774rseniors equals LA County Elder Abuse Hotline yes that's true. Yep Maria did a whole bunch of footage for that video when we asked people.
Speaker 2:Yes, maria, she sent in so much footage for that video when we asked people yes, Maria, you are an artist.
Speaker 1:She sent in so much footage.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and some of the pictures you sent in are just stellar.
Speaker 1:Amazing. Thank you for that.
Speaker 2:Maria, and yeah, anyway, okay, we need to add that form to the Dropbox so we can.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Okay, Cool. Carla Zabeti, Could you ask Brian Seymour to post the 10-part Scientology special he did? Got pulled by Australian TV channel, scared of legal throats, on your YouTube. You know it was posted somewhere and I don't know if it's still up somewhere. Can you look into that, Claire? Yep, and yeah, shout out to Brian Seymour, one of the most successful journalists to ever report on Scientology. And well, he's the most famous and the best in Australia. That him and Steve Kanaan maybe you know different in different ways we're, you know, both on the podium, but very good.
Speaker 2:Thank you for that, Carly Yep.
Speaker 1:Nikki's mom says who is Goldie? Keep hearing the name. Keep up the good fight. Awesome from Brooklyn, new York, hearing the name keep up the good fight awesome from brooklyn, new york. Goldie is our um moderator that keeps um all of this, uh, this chat and all the comments and everything um properly moderated she helps make, she makes the magic happen.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:Goldie makes the magic happen yeah, and she's the moderator for several sptv channels, which I'm not sure exactly how that works. I still think she's not a person, she's a robot or something, but Claire says she's talked to her.
Speaker 2:She's an amazing person.
Speaker 1:I have the calm domain, starting with the SPTV directory, but super chat won't let me post it as an address. Have been waiting for SPTV approved list to post. Okay, awesome, well.
Speaker 2:I think I have an email and like I said I'll work on catching up on my email this weekend so many things going on.
Speaker 1:Thank you for that, maria hot crossed scones. Thank you for the super chat, thomas wall. Thank you for the super chat. It says from hi, from sweden love your channel. Thank you, tamas. Thank you, um, I appreciate it. Sorry, I said your name wrong at first. Um, as soon as I saw sweden, I was like, oh, that's not Thomas, that's Tomas. Thank you, tomas. And with that we're going to do our last giveaway. That is all of the questions that we had started and there was a bunch of non-super chats in there, and now we're going to give away the last one. Did you do the last one?
Speaker 2:I did the last one so you can do the finale.
Speaker 1:Okay, good, if you are in the chat and you would like a gift, a merchandise item of your very own for a no cost at all, we will give you one. People donate. They go on the blown for good store link in the description and they just donate and they say this is for giveaway, and we just keep track of those and then next time we do a live, we do the giveaways. It's usually two or three, a couple handful a week and we make sure we give them away. So if you would like one of those things bobblehead, uh, uh, merch a book bracelet.
Speaker 1:Oh, we're giving away SP bracelets too. Sure. Well, you could get one of these. You know, I'm level. I revealed today on Aaron's chat that him and I were both SP level 15. But you can just be SP level one. Sp level one's getting one of these bracelets. It says SP.
Speaker 2:Are you doing the bridge to total suppression?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I'm doing the bridge to total suppression. And just so you know, those guys, the Scientologists, they have a bracelet too. When they go clear, they get a bracelet that has a Scientology logo on it and it has a number on the back that says which number clear they're up to.
Speaker 2:One time somebody made me give them what SP number they were.
Speaker 1:Yes, we have that, so they could engrave their bracelet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anyway, so we, the SPs, we have bracelets too. So there, scientology, Nanananan, boo-boo, we're better than you. You Stick your head in doodoo. And this and this bracelet you can get on the SP store. I mean, if you're gonna be an SP, might as well shop. It's called the SP shop, but the SP shop calm, and you can get them there and we'll put a link in the description if you want to get one of those. But meanwhile we're doing a giveaway in the description if you want to get one of those, but meanwhile we're doing a giveaway. I almost got carried away. Well, it's still going. Holy moly, my computer is. I got to catch up here. I'm going to do a five, I'm going to do a countdown for this one. I'm going to do a five, four, three, two, and then I will follow that up with a one and then clickety, click, click on Carmen, noseworthy Gift, please.
Speaker 1:All right, she done got it.
Speaker 2:Okay, carmen, shoot us an email and let us know which gift you were looking for.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, you know, I saw that um thumbnail on a comment. We read I thought oh so maybe we that person got double lucky there with a comment or they did this, Maybe they did a super chat or something.
Speaker 2:Anyway, thank you for that. Yeah, and if you want to do two last comments there were two that at that came in- oh, oh sorry we did.
Speaker 1:We've missed some. Yeah, Rural SD lawyer says, took a quick tour of the St Paul org while in the area for some training Empty, dark, creepy. One of the videos the guy wanted to show up was broken. Wanted to stay longer, but it was too weird. Oh my goodness. Yeah, I designed those displays. I'm not sure how they ended up building them and executing my design, but it sounds like it's a show of the poo.
Speaker 2:Thank you, royal Estee lawyer, we appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Thanks for being here. Oh, and then Anne Hummingbird did a super chat for book. You know, Anne Hummingbird, normally I wouldn't do this, I'd just take your super chat and run with the money. But get Claire an email and we'll send you a book.
Speaker 2:There you go yeah. I'm feeling a philanthropist and don't forget every time we hit our next thousand subscribers, we do a book giveaway. We haven't been mentioning that lately.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:And when we hit 34,000 last week, I sent someone an email and I said hey, you win a book. And they were like wait, what? Yeah, is this a mistake? I'm like no, it's not a mistake, I have a spreadsheet that covers that too.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Documents, every book we've given away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when we click over every thousand, we click over every thousand subscribers. So we just we're at three 34,264. When we ticked over from 33,999 over to 34,000, claire just goes through the comments and if somebody said they wanted a book, she just randomly picks one of those people and says you get a book.
Speaker 2:Or even if they didn't say they want a book cause we haven't been mentioning it, so people haven't been doing it. I'm like hey, you want a book.
Speaker 1:Yes, so anyway, thank you very much guys for tuning in. If you again, you know we haven't been, we haven't really been doing any of our brand things, or you know what I'm saying. I don't even know if I have titles for them anymore. That's how long we haven't done it. Banners here it is. Let's just do this. We haven't done this in so long I forgot how to do it. So if you do want to get a book, a Blown for Good book, I wrote a book about being in Scientology and working at the international headquarters for 15 years and it's called Blown for Good, behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology. You can get it at Blownforgoodcom or you can go to the link in the description for the Blown for Good store Bobbleheads.
Speaker 2:We have a Mike Rinder bobblehead and SP bracelets that can be gotten at the spshopcom and proceeds from the spshopcom go to the aftermath foundation to help people escape scientology.
Speaker 1:That's right. And if you don't want to go through the not the hassle of getting a bobble at micro ender bobblehead or an sp bracelet to support the aftermath foundation, you can just just go directly to the aftermath foundation website, which is the aftermath foundationorg, and you can click on the donate button, or you can become a volunteer, or you can get some of these little SP, uh aftermath cards that we have and you can leave those out near a Scientology organization in case one of their members sees one. They know that there's somebody out there and, um, yeah, look, this is how long ago I use this. It says don't forget to subscribe, trying to get to 29,000. So, yeah, only 5,000 subscribers.
Speaker 2:We gotta update that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so don't forget to subscribe. We're trying to get to 35,000.
Speaker 2:35,000, that's a really awesome marker. So thank you to everyone supporting and thank you to the nearly 2,000 people who are with us now. If you haven't subscribed, please don't forget to do so and hit the bell notification, so you will be notified of new content.
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