Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed
Marc Headley worked at Scientology’s secret desert compound, which houses all Scientology management, for 15 years. The 500-acre property is located deep in the California desert. The local townspeople were told lectures and films were made there. But is that all that was happening? It is the location of a multi-million dollar home for L. Ron Hubbard, built two decades after his death. It is the home of Scientology’s current leader, David Miscavige. So what really happens at the Int Base? Are the stories on the internet true? How does Scientology conduct management of its day-to-day operations? Could stories of armed guards, weapons, staff beatings, and razor wire fences be true? If so, how could a facility like this exist in modern-day America? Hundreds of staff tried to escape over the years. Some succeeded but were never seen or heard of again, and most failed. Why were people kept here? What really went on at the headquarters of Scientology? This is the story of what happened behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology.
Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed
Scientology Uncovered: Triumphs, Tricks, and Community Tales - Scientology Q&A #31
This episode originally aired on YouTube on June 24, 2023. Due to popular demand, these episodes are also being made available on the podcast.
This episode dives into the complex world of Scientology through the perspectives of those who have escaped its grasp. We discuss Mike’s positive treatment update, our fascinating interview with former Sea Org member Hannah Elteringham, and the detailed exploration of the hypocrisy surrounding David Miscavige and the rules of the Sea Organization. The episode encourages listener engagement and highlights the value of shared experiences in unraveling the truths behind Scientology.
• Update on Mike's ongoing treatment
• Insights from Hannah Eltringham's interview
• Exploration of Sea Org culture and experiences
• The hypocrisy of David Miscavige revealed
• Encouragement of listener engagement and discussions
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Hey guys, welcome back to the channel. We're going to do a live today. We're just getting Claire ready to go, but we're in here. Let's see where everybody's at in the comments today. We've already got. Oh, wow, we've already got. Looks like a few hundred people already in here waiting for the stream. That's cool, we've got. Let's see who we've got people in from Goldie says. People in from Goldie says let's get this party started. Goldie is our moderator for today. So everybody say hi to Goldie. We've got someone from Belgium. We've got some hey-hey from the UK. We've got somebody fromine uh, tucson. Oh, they're going by so fast. Minneapolis, burbank, saint augustine, florida, georgia, alabama, um, and oh, look who I found. Look at this. Um, claire was, uh, claire's. We're in the middle of getting Claire all uh converted over to a new setup and it looks like, uh, she's got, uh, she's got a light. That didn't go on, but that's okay.
Speaker 2:It still didn't. I switched to natural light. I opened up my blind.
Speaker 1:We can still see you. We can see you fine, it's all good.
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Speaker 1:Lancaster, Auburn, Long Island. We've got a lot of people in here. This is filling up pretty quick here. Well, that's great. Yeah, we're almost up to 600 people in the first few minutes here which is exciting to everyone.
Speaker 2:joining us Good to see you here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we appreciate people tuning in for these things. We don't do that many lives, but when we do do them we like it when people watch live, but you can always catch the replay if you miss us. When we do these we try to do it a little bit early on the weekends when we can, because then people in other time zones, other than where we are in the United States, can watch these live. That hits a lot of them. I know some still people have to stay up late or get up early to watch them.
Speaker 2:But we got people here from Germany, from what was the other one. I just saw Denmark.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Very cool. Oh yeah, copenhagen, perfect. Well, thanks, I guess we'll get right into it. There's some awesome news. On the last time we did a live, we did say that Mike and Christy were going to do a video at some point to update everybody. But basically Mike's on his treatment, they're set for the first round of treatment and the prognosis is getting better as he's getting treatment and in about 10 weeks or so is when they'll know more information, but until then they're just continuing his treatment.
Speaker 2:And how awesome is that? That Lilly Cares Foundation approved six months of treatment. I mean that is just on so many levels amazing and so ironic.
Speaker 1:It is. It really is kind of crazy that in the end, Eli Lilly is. The one who's making this medication that he needs and that they will, that they're going to help him out with getting him the care he needs.
Speaker 2:We did team Mike, all the way.
Speaker 1:Yes, hashtag team Mike.
Speaker 2:Yes, hashtag team Mike.
Speaker 1:We did do. We did have another Scientology stories video come out this week that Claire did. She's been doing all these interviews with former Sea Org members and former Scientologists and a lot of the people that she's doing these Sea Org you know 20, 30 years ago they knew Shelly Miscavige when she was at the Sea Org at that time. So she just did one with Hannah Elteringham Whitfield. Yes, that's right, that just came out on Tuesday, I think on Tuesday.
Speaker 2:Yeah, tuesday or Wednesday. Hannah is amazing. She's such a gem and the amazing part of her story is still coming. She is just a really unique person in that after she got out of Scientology, she then she and her husband Jerry, have worked tirelessly to help people get their families out of Scientology. So we're going to do a whole episode just talking about that and what her tips and tricks are, so to speak, of recovering loved ones from this dangerous cult.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and yeah. It's a fascinating interview and Hannah is amazing and she has such amazing detail and recollection of all these different things that happened, and I mean we're talking about stories that happened in, you know, 1967. She's like and then we went here and we did this, and then we did, and you're just like what?
Speaker 2:I know it's amazing. It's for the first time. Some of the things that we'd only ever read about when we were there was kind of like just theoretical, like all the Royal Scotsman, for example, the one of the ships you know. I'm just learning so much from people who were actually there that it's making a lot of pieces fit together for me in terms of the whole history of it in terms of the whole history of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it also gives you a glimpse, because a lot of people that are in Scientology or that are in the Sea Organization within Scientology they hear all these stories about what happened in the Sea Org back in the days when L Ron Hubbard was creating this and it's sort of become folklore and these fantasies of what happened, and then when you hear what actually happened, you're like, oh yeah, it was a total shit show. It was like a show of how incompetent can this group of people be? Can this group of people be? And all of the nonsense that goes on, because Hubbard's just being arrogant and we're going in here and we're going to do this and everyone's like what? And it doesn't work out in his favor in most cases, and Mark and Janice have a channel called Our Scientology Stories, peeling the Onion.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's right and they're doing interviews as well with people, have a channel called our Scientology stories, peeling the onion, yeah, and they're doing interviews as well with people and they just did an interview with a Scientologist named Mitch Brisker. Now Mitch Brisker was in the movie industry, in the, in the Hollywood, in the entertainment industry, and he was a director and he got involved in Scientology and then he's, he was sort of lured in through the celebrity center um to help direct all of these internal training and public um facing public relations films for Scientology and um. And he has now and he's been a director working with the Sea Org and Golden Era Productions and David Miscavige I want to say from about 1990 is when he started doing that, and so we're talking about 40 years. He worked with the Sea Org and David Miscavige and Scientology producing these films, and now he's leaving and he's telling his story. So he did an interview with Mark and Janice Um. If you haven't seen that, you should get over to their channel and check that out.
Speaker 1:It's uh, his name is Mitch Brisker. Uh, it's called the and the sea org are in golden air productions. They called it the shoot crew chief, um. It's basically sort of equivalent to like a first assistant director or something like that. So I worked with mitch a lot when we shot these films and um, and then when I became a pre-production director in the same organization, I worked with him and whatever we have, we have plenty of stories that we could talk about, on in on our ventures um, guerrillas shooting around Los Angeles, um, without permits, and all kinds of nonsense. Even when we had permits, it there was a lot of nonsense, but, um, so that's great. And then, um, the great.
Speaker 1:The amazing thing that's starting to happen now is there's so many SPTV network channels or TV channels that if you have a story, if you're a former Scientologist or you're a former Seer member and you have a story to tell, there's about 20 different channels that you could get a hold of and say, hey, I'd love to tell you guys my story and they'd love to have you on and tell your story. Love to tell you guys my story and they'd love to have you on and tell your story. So the fact that Mitch was able to go and do this with Mark and Janice is amazing, because now there's not, there's not really any gatekeepers for these stories anymore, depending on who you are or who you like or which channel you like. You could pick and choose.
Speaker 2:Or do all of them. Everyone has a different perspective and take and different mutual experiences. That's what I'm really enjoying from the interviews I've been doing is just comparing notes is therapeutic, I hope, to the audience as much as it is to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it's great that now you could get so many different perspectives on this subject from. So so the the common thing is is Scientology likes to say, is that, oh, it's just a, it's like just a handful of people, you know, it's just like, oh, these three people over here that they're, you know, just causing problems, they're apostates, and on the fringes of the internet, on the fringes of the internet.
Speaker 1:So now what's happening is there's probably I mean there someone did make a directory. I'm pretty sure Goldie will likely link to it in the comments. But, um, I read through this directory. It's amazing that it's it's. I want to say it's actually probably 50 different channels, or or, um, you know outlets. It's not want to say it's actually probably 50 different channels, or or, you know outlets. It's not all YouTube, but there's websites and there and someone is making just a directory that just keeps getting built and built and built and added to.
Speaker 2:But I think it's more than 40 now.
Speaker 1:I think it's more than 50. Like, in terms of all the different places, like I'm saying, if you just count the YouTube channel, it's probably a 30 or 40 or something like that, and also some of those people. They've even started to categorize them, because you've got all these former Sea Org members or former Scientologists. And then you have this other group that's called Never Ends and they're never, never in. They're on the team and they're doing everything they can to expose it or, you know, just bring attention to it even, but they're never in. They were never in Scientology or they were never in the SEA organization.
Speaker 2:Never Ends are my personal favorite for the record.
Speaker 1:And the great thing is is that we're hearing not only we're hearing from Scientologists guys, we are hearing from a lot of Scientologists that are there. Scientology considers them Scientologists, but they themselves are kind of they don't do it anymore, they don't support it, they don't spend money, but they might have family members or business relationships or something like that that are still involved in Scientology. So they're not just coming out and telling their story, but a lot of these people are sort of telling their story behind the scenes and and filling in holes that we might have with some particular area or subject or whatever that happened, and a lot of them are telling us about stuff that's happening right now in science, in scientology and like sort of like the, the, the rumors that are going around, and a lot of people are watching these videos and finding out, you know, deep, dark secrets about david miscavige for instance, and it's funny to me that, um, there a whole.
Speaker 2:So you know how in Scientology we all know there are acronyms for days. Well, now there's a whole new set of acronyms that describe this underground people.
Speaker 1:So somebody will write hi, I'm UTR instead of under the radar well, because if they speak out against Scientology, then they show up on Scientology's radar. So Scientology's the office of special affairs, formerly known as the guardian's office, the organization Scientology organization that perpetrated the largest infiltration into the United States government in its history, now called OSA, the Office of Special Affairs. They're like the dirty tricks department of Scientology. They're the one that hired the private investigators and the lawyers and mess with former members and put out hate sites. And within the Office of Special Affairs there's an investigations department or bureau, or whatever they call it at OSA, and within the investigations department is the Internet unit. So the Internet unit is an investigative arm of Scientology, their official Internet unit. And those are the guys that create these hate websites and buy all these domains.
Speaker 1:And I actually, within the spy files, found a document that details out what they spent per week and per year on certain items. And here it is. I always speculated what it was and I actually found a document and this was in the early days. So this was back in, I want to say, 2005 or 2006, when they weren't that heavy doing stuff on the internet. They were spending $65,000 a year on domain names $65,000 a year on domain names. That's not. That's not websites. That's not work. That's just buying davidmuscavagebeatsastaffcom.
Speaker 2:They would buy that domain. Updated lists. There is a um, a list of uh, there's, there's many lists and we have videos on the blown for good channel.
Speaker 1:but there's David Miscavige vanity sites, so that's like the one I just told you. David Miscavige beats his staffcom. Um is so that if somebody searches David Miscavige beats his staff, they go to one of the Scientology websites. It's like David Miscavige has never even yelled at anyone in his entire life and he says they also have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't they also have? Who is david muscavige?
Speaker 1:they have. Who is they have? Uh, uh, ron muscavige's soncom. I mean, if you look at, go to one of these videos, so there's david muscavige vanity sites. There's shelly muscavige websites. There's the hate websites Like so who is Mark Headley, who is Claire Headley? And then there are hate sites on Leah, david Miscavige's father. Oh, there's, there's thousands and thousands and thousands, and we never knew how were they buying it? Well, they're spending $65,000 a year. At least that's what they spent back in the early 2000s.
Speaker 2:So let me share a thought, by the way, because it just occurred to me. We always talk about office of special affairs and guardian's office and blah, blah, blah. You know how they always say don't judge a book by its cover. Well, osa is the guardian's office book, just with a new cover yeah, it's the same same old, exact same policies. You know everything hubbard said to do.
Speaker 1:They just gave it a new name they have the exact same policy letters that they had before. They had the same. Hubbard didn't write like, okay, now that the guardian's office has been disbanded. That's what they did. They disbanded it. So they said, okay, there's no more guardian's office. And they told, told all these people, okay, you guys have to leave. Okay, now, you guys who've been kind of working here but nobody knows, you're now the office of special affairs.
Speaker 2:So get back to work doing everything that they were doing, which has got a new name for you anyway, and I love how they use the word disbanded.
Speaker 1:It's like okay yeah, and that's another thing that we should get into is because, um, whatever, paul, every, every sort of faction or area of scientology has its own set of policies for that activity. So if you're in Scientology and you're training to be a counselor, all of the things that you read are called HCO bulletins and they all have all these codes. So those are it's white paper with red ink, red ink on white paper. That's the format and that's how those are out. So whenever you see a Scientology document that has white paper and it has red ink, that's an HCO bulletin. And if you're doing any kind of counseling or auditing or training in Scientology courses, that's all the things that apply to that. If you're an administrator in Scientology, that If you're an administrator in Scientology, then the policies it's called an HCO policy letter or an HCO PL, and those are all white paper with green ink.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, now the C organization has its own set of policies and public or civilian Scientologists or just Scientologists that are in on staff like they're an employee of a local organization, say in Boston somewhere, they don't have access to all these flag orders. They're called flag orders from the flag organization. The ship, the flag ship that Hubbard was in was the commander of he had all these, or captain of he had all these smaller ships, and so the main ship was called Flag. Okay, so Flag orders are the policies for the Sea Organization and the Sea Organization. I don't know how many flag orders are, maybe a thousand or a few thousand oh, way more than that, yeah.
Speaker 1:More than a few thousand flag owners. Well, maybe that were officially released yeah, anyway, there's thousands, there's thousands of these flag orders and they cover everything from brushing your teeth. Seriously, delrond ever said this?
Speaker 1:how you get polishing your shoes yeah, you name it, he wrote it, and he wrote it when they were on this ship. Like, even if he just wrote something to somebody like, hey, if you're going to clean the shower, you first got to do this and then you got to do this, and then you get somebody would take that, that order or something that he told somebody and they would make that into a flag order on how to clean a shower. And there are flag orders on how to wash windows. We use ammonia and water and vinegar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not ammonia.
Speaker 1:Vinegar and water. Vinegar and water and newspaper.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm trying to give you a recipe for mustard gas Put a little bit of bleach in there and some soap, anyway. So you make this mixture and then you can only use newspapers, you can't use paper towels, you can't use Windex. You have to do this exact formula that he and he literally says put this much water, put this much of this, and then you get your newspaper and then you wash the windows. So in the Sea Org, if you have a bottle Windex and some paper towels and you're washing a window and somebody comes by, they can be be like what are you doing? You know it's like that kind of thing.
Speaker 2:So you reminded me when I was like six or seven, learning how to do this when washing windows with newspapers. There was a time when I was wondering in my head if it was the reason it was newspapers is because the newspapers always had bad stories about Scientology in them. I was like that's why they're using newspapers.
Speaker 1:There is a slight I think there is a slight on newspapers somewhere in Hubbard where he says oh, newspapers are dirty. You ever, you ever look at your hands after you read one? They're all black, and that you know anyway. Something like that, yeah, OK. So so the reason this is important is because Claire just did this video with Jackson Gary Moorhead. He used to be the security chief at the international headquarters in Gilman Hot Springs, California, but before he was at that location he was in the Sea Org in Los Angeles and he's telling this story in the video.
Speaker 1:I don't watch every single video that Claire does, but I do have to edit them together and I put an intro and an outro and I go through and tweak a few little things and then I upload it. And I was watching this thing and he, just the middle of this story, he just says, oh, yeah, and there's this. One time I was supposed to clean what's called the Commodore's messenger organization and that is the organization that had people that were working for Hubbard to carry out his orders, essentially, yeah, and Jackson is His cleaning the going in and cleaning these dorms and and he walks into David Miscavige's dorm. David Miscavige was in the Commodore's Messenger Organization and he is getting busy with somebody in this dorm.
Speaker 2:He being David Miscavige.
Speaker 1:David Miscavige. Now in the C organization there's a flag order and this flag order is called Out2D. Now maybe you should explain that how that is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the short version is Second Dynamic. 2d stands for Second Dynamic, which in Scientology is the urge towards survival of families, your relationships, so for example your husband or your wife or your partner, your children which there's no children in this organization, but that's another thing. So your activities with a partner, et cetera, are referred to as 2D. Out 2D is a violation of the rules for that. So generally it's a broad label, but it generally refers to anything other than for a C organization member. Anything more than just holding hands or a peck is out 2D.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So now, the reason this is important is because if you've ever worked with David Miscavige for any amount of years, he is fascinated with any relationships that are going on in his vicinity or wherever he's working. So like if we were at the base and we were having a meeting with him in this area, kind of in this, almost in the center of the property, and it was right next to the dining hall and if people were walking down to the dining hall for dinner or walking up away from the dining hall after dinner, he would say like, oh, what's up with those two, are they a couple now? Or you know, oh, what's up with those two, are they a couple now? Or you know, oh, how long have those guys been dating? Or what do you? Is something cooking there? Like he was fascinated with interpersonal relationships between couples.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because there was and there was no dating in this organization either. It was just an like, an agreement Okay, we'll, we'll sit on the bus riding home together, kind of thing. You never went on any dates or anything.
Speaker 1:So let's, not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got to define your terms here, honey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dating in the Sea Org means they're about to be married very quickly, yeah, and so the other thing that's very common in the Sea Org is that if you, if there's a couple that have been going together for more than a few weeks or a few months, then they are, they're really like on a stage and everyone is waiting for them to go out 2D because it's going to happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's going to happen. And the second. Either one of them does anything wrong or gets in any kind of trouble. The assumption will always be that they're up to no good with the two of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that'll be the very first subject of the interrogation. Questions are what have you guys been up to? What have you done? Where did you do it? How did you do it? How long did it last? You know every excruciating detail about anything that's gone on.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that's sort of the backdrop to this whole thing. So now Jackson's talking about Jackson's just telling this story. Oh, I was supposed to clean the room and he walked in and oh, dave's getting busy. And this is like I was just like did you just say that David Miscavige was going out? 2d.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to us it was mind blowing. And also, too, because I have been extensively putting together this timeline of all the details of Shelley's life for Where's Shelley series? And I was like, wow, she started dating. Well, they became a couple. Again, I'm not going to use the word dating because that's not real, but they had an agreement of a relationship starting in 1978 when Shelly was 17 years old, but they didn't get married until December 1982 when Shelly was yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:So this was like wow that's the longest unmarried relationship in the history of the Sea Organization. That's mind-boggling. And then, yeah, and of course Jackson said it was not a private room, it was a dormitory where there were other male seorg members, and this was in the middle of the afternoon, so they'd obviously snuck off and we're getting up to nonsense yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's another thing, because when we're looking at the timeline we're thinking it's really weird that they it doesn't make sense that they were together for three years and then they got married so much like. That's very's very, very, very uncommon in the Sea Org. Because of this reason, that couples are going to get in trouble because they're not going to make it that long without just with like, oh, how's it going? Oh, good to see you. Okay, good to see you too. That's not what's happening. See you too. Um, that's not what's happening. And um anyway. So the best part is that I think it's even in the um, it's even in the interview. Was like um, who was he with?
Speaker 2:like, I know I was like my. Well, wait a minute. My million dollar question is was it shelly?
Speaker 1:yes, and and the and. The answer was it was shelly. So we now know, and and to everybody in the real world. It's like whatever. This is ridiculously stupid. Work camp for five or six years because you made out with your boyfriend or maybe was involved in some other activities that led to one thing or another, and you were literally in a prison camp instincts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you were in a prison camp for five years and the person who may have said you need to go and do that was David Miscavige, and he had already been doing that way before. And here's the other thing, which this is a huge, because this happened and because he was so fascinated with it, and because, if you say, well, if he believed in the technology and he believes in this and he believes in that, it's very, very probable that in that three years, david Miscavige wasn't the head of Scientology during this time, and Shelley wasn't anything either. She had been a messenger for L Ron Hubbard by this time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were executives, but they were not top executives.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, they had power, but they weren't the leaders.
Speaker 1:They were five years off from that, or more actually. At that point, yeah, both lied and said, no, we weren't. So the fact that david, holier than thou, muscavige, um, boss, cranky boss, baby um was doing up to nonsense when lrh was still elrond, hubbard was still around and they were in one way or another working for him and they were up to all this nonsense. For any c org member that's out there, um, it's gonna. It's gonna mean something to them and it's gonna be. It's gonna make a lot of things about david miscavige make sense like he's. He's not better than everybody else, he's not.
Speaker 1:Um, you know, pure and un, un, pure as the driven snow, yeah, and the funny part too he's got dirty hands, According to his sort of standards that he holds everybody else to. He was doing that stuff way more and way before any of them. And one of the craziest things is there is a flag order called Out2D and that is that for the Sea Org. That policy essentially says um, if you have relationships before you're married with another female or male Sea Org member, then you are to be left. It's called beached, you're to be beached. So like when they're driving around and they see an island, they're going stomp and they're going to throw you off and that's your new spot now.
Speaker 2:And since they were on land, they'd get kicked out, which you know obviously. Now you see where the stakes at hand come in as to why they wouldn't confess this, but it is at odds with. It does poke a very big hole in belief in Scientology to not confess right.
Speaker 1:Totally, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Not to mention the fact that there's so many Hubbard writings that say that, which you accuse somebody else of, you yourself are guilty of. So for you know, all the time, the many, many times David Miscavige accused somebody of all these things, it made so much sense to you and I, for that reason, like wow, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, totally it was. It was like, oh my gosh, you've got to be kidding me. And and the best part is that Jackson I don't even think he thought anything about it, he was just like oh yeah, it just happened. You know, and and in security they're doing inspections, and they're doing birthing inspections and they're going to people's rooms or it's the cleaning people. There was a lot of times where people would go to somebody's room for something and there'd be all kinds of things happening in the room. You'd be like, oops, and then it becomes this dilemma of like what do I do?
Speaker 1:Oh, and that's the other thing. Jackson never reported it to anybody.
Speaker 2:No, he was going to. But then he was like well, david Miscavige did have clout at that time. He's like reverse, reverse yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's another one of these things where you really find out who's on what team when people rat each other out and whoever rats them out will take great credit in doing so when they do it but then you got to know that's that dude over there. If you're going to get up to nonsense, you got to make sure that guy ain't around, because he's going to rat you out.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, there were so many of those it was-.
Speaker 1:Like little spies, yeah, like little spies, yeah, little spiders.
Speaker 2:And they would use it to get extra brownie points with you know, their boss or whatever.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, 100%. That's a total normal thing. Anyway, if you haven't seen the video, you should get over there and watch it. It's the Scientology. No, this is not Scientology Stories. This is Where's Shelley number six. I think it is.
Speaker 2:Yep, I think so.
Speaker 1:Let's say it's number six. Whether it's number six or not, no, I'm going to look it is yeah it's number six.
Speaker 2:It's number six. It's number six.
Speaker 1:Yeah, number seven's coming out next week. Claire's done some more Scientology stories. We've done some more. Where's Shelly? And we're doing some more Scientology stories as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did an interview with Ono Nora that will be coming out soon. That was a lot of fun chatting with Nora for the first time since I think the last time I saw her was 1996 in Clearwater Florida.
Speaker 1:Wow, yeah, and oh, somebody says didn't Janice already give this information about Shelly, beginning of Dave and Shelly in an interview with Aaron? I think I don't know. I mean that's the other thing. When this happened they were in Los Angeles, so a lot of that Janice's stories about the early stuff with Shelley took place in aboard this ship called the Apollo Excuse me and that was where L Ron Hubbard was started, the Sea Project, which then became the Sea Organization, which then moved to land in the late 1970s in Florida and they kind of split it all over the United States and elsewhere as well. But I don't know about this thing with Jackson. I don't know why Janice would talk about this thing with Dave and Shelley, because I don't think Janice was there when Jackson walked in on Shelley. But either way, I'm just looking at I just this is the comment test Forbes Didn't Janice already give this information about the beginning of Dave and Shelley?
Speaker 1:He might have gave in the beginning? Yeah, I don't know. I mean there's there's so many Scientology channels like I will. I will go on YouTube and I'll see somebody doing a broadcast. I'll jump in, I'll say hi, I'll stay for a few minutes and then I and then I back out. But um, but yeah, there are um and the people that do um that are on, and I haven't been.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I just can't, I can't, I can't go to every single video. There's too many to even keep track of anymore.
Speaker 1:Um, we don't even have enough time to to do all the interviews we're trying to do. I know I do love that. Other people are doing interviews with all other channels and apostate Alex has got people coming on and you know Chris Shelton and Kelly Copter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's. There's so many different channels with so many different perspectives on this, and and we are hearing from people that weren't even in Scientology, that were just like you know, the group I was in was seemed pretty similar to whatever you guys are talking about and that may have helped them in some way. So we're I'm happy that you know whatever between all of these videos and all these different channels, people seem to like the content because we keep getting, you know, we keep getting more views and more people engaging, so we'll keep going. As long as the as long as there's people here that want to hear about this stuff, we'll we'll keep talking about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're almost about to hit our next major milestone of 35,000 subscribers. So, to all you 1,481 people, don't forget to subscribe and hit the bell notification so you get alerted of new content.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we are. We're at 34, 747. So we're only like 250 away from giving away another book.
Speaker 1:Yes, we have been. Every thousand we take over, we give away a book. There's been a lot of books. If you guys also, there's a whole bunch more. I don't know, depending on who's normally here and who's not here or who's been on this channel or not been on this channel before. We have, I want to say, 100 different merch items in the BFG store now, between mugs and cups and T-shirts and sweaters and hoodies and hats and stickers. There's all kinds of nonsense up in there. If you want to support the channel, that's a good way to do it. Go to the store. The Blown for good way to do it. Go to the. Go to the store. The blown for good store or blown for good shop. I think they call it in the in the description. Is there anything else that let's see we get to?
Speaker 2:are we doing giveaways today.
Speaker 1:By the way, I forgot to oh, yeah, we should do a giveaway. What time is it? Oh, it's 38. We should just do one right now. Yeah, if you're in the comments and as soon as we're done with this we'll do. We'll do Q&A, but if you want any, we do have I think one. Last time I went in the store there was two at least two people that donated for giveaways. So we'll do two giveaways. We'll do one now and we'll do one like in 45 minutes. One now and we'll do one like in 45 minutes.
Speaker 1:Um, if you, uh, if you want, um, a free thing from the blown for good store, um, just tell us in the, in the, in the chat. You want some merch, uh, say, merch me or book me or whatever We've got. We've got blown for good books, we've got any merch from the merch store. Um, if you get that, you just send us an email with the with the thing thing, what thing you want from the store, and claire will just send you a code and you can just buy it and get it for free. You don't have to pay shipping or anything. We just ship it out to you and we will do it to wherever you're from. So people ask, they ask us all the time. But what if I'm in the uk? It doesn't matter wherever you're at, we'll just send it to you. Um, so let me go to the chat here and see if there's anybody in there. Oh, there's 1500 people right now. Um, there's probably at least three or four of those in the chat.
Speaker 1:Um, let's see, oh my goodness, there are there and as I just caught up to where it is, I'm going to do a like a countdown. So I'll do like a five, four, three and a two and a one and skadoosh, enchanted Chains, jewelry Merch, please.
Speaker 2:Yay.
Speaker 1:You got it Enchanted Chains Jewelry. You're the big lucky winner on the first giveaway of this live today. So email Claire at claireatblomforgoodcom with a link of what you want in the store and she will send you back a link that lets you get it for goodcom. And with a link of what you want in the store and she will send you back a link that lets you get it for free. Um, do we have anything else that we forgot to bring up? Frank, bring up. We've got um we talked about the gary video.
Speaker 2:We have a lot of great material coming up we do shelly's, on shelly's early years. That, to me, anyway, explains so much as to how we got to where we are today, where she hasn't been seen in a very long time and yeah, so that'll be good. Stay tuned for that. Lots of great pictures and information. I've been receiving all kinds of new material from various different people who knew Shelley, so thank you to everyone who has emailed me. I greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we have some really good ones coming up and it's funny because we're trying to find out, we're trying to talk to anybody who knew Shelly, worked with Shelly, and when we find, when we hear about stories about she, shelly, invariably we find out something about dave.
Speaker 1:And that's how we found out this thing about dave, um, you know, basically being a very, very bad c-work member, um, many, many years ago, and the fact that he punished other c-work members for something that he was doing for years, it's's so it's just infuriating. Maybe it means something more personal to me, because I want to say I know at least 30 people where their whole marriage was ruined or their relationship or their whole life took a major change of direction for the worse because of something that they did, and he was the one who put the screws to him. And you just think like, oh my goodness, I knew it, I knew it, I knew it anyway. To me it's so, dave. So anyway, um, it's just, it's just one of those things. It's so, dave, he is such a right bastard. A right bastard, that dude.
Speaker 2:Anyway, but hey, on a on a happier note, let's take a moment to give a shout out to our amazing moderator, Goldie. All hail, Goldie we love you, Goldie.
Speaker 1:I did that at the head of the broadcast when you were trying to figure out where your lights were at.
Speaker 2:Okay, sorry about that. Yeah, I did that. I did all that. Thank you, I took care of business. I appreciate you taking care of that.
Speaker 1:Let's go to the questions here. It's, what time is it? Let's make sure we don't forget that next giveaway. Somebody will remind us. If we don't, we'll do it. You know what? Let's just do it on the hour. Let's Um, let's, let's rock through some questions here. Um LaFanda Grocklinger says um, thanks for streaming at a Europe friendly time. That's right. That's all we do over here at SPTV is we're very Europe friendly right now?
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you for always being here, whether we're friendly or not.
Speaker 1:I know you, she says that and she's been on. We've done like nine, nine o'clock at night streams here and she's in there at that time.
Speaker 1:So maybe that's really early in the morning, I don't know, but either way, thank you for that, paula Puffer. Looking forward to upcoming stories oh yeah, they're going to be so good. And the funniest thing about these new videos that we have Thanks for that, paula. The funniest thing about some of these new videos that we have coming up is that it's a lot of these current Scientologists that are still in that we're hearing from when we're doing these stories, because we're filling in blanks and we're also sort of getting rid of the folklore and telling you what actually happened. So in Scientology they I mean you would think that when L Ron Hubbard walked down the sidewalk, there was just a ray of sunshine following him everywhere he went, based on how they talk about him, and when you hear the stories from Hannah, these other people there was no sunshine, it was all storm clouds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and not to mention the fact that I loved when Hannah was talking about what Hubbard would drink. They always thought it was Coca-Cola, but it was really like 80% rum with 20% Coca-Cola and you're like, wow, stiff drinks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which also really answered the question on how this dude had the worst teeth in the world is because he was drinking coke a day and night and he was washing it down with rum.
Speaker 2:so it was like yeah, and the craziest imagination, right yeah, but he also didn't he?
Speaker 1:he had a, he hated dentists, he, he was like, um, you'd think that he was in. You know what's that? Uh, the one with the plant that eats the people. Little shop of horrors, you think he was he'd been to the dentist and little shop. I didn't.
Speaker 2:I didn't see that one, honey. I'm still filling in my media blackout years, Don't forget.
Speaker 1:Jan sword says Mark, just finished your book. Amazing, you put up with a lot more crap than I would have, so happy you two came together. Yes, no, um, I did. I didn't know any better, cause I sort of grew up in it. And, um, I only realized after Lee really after leaving, um, how much nonsense we actually did put up with. And it's that we were paid $46 a week if we got paid.
Speaker 1:And now that was one of the things that our lawsuit was about. We were like, hey, listen, we worked for you guys for like a decade or so and you didn't pay us. You probably should have paid us. There was a bunch of nonsense that went on. Just pay us and we'll be fine. We lost that lawsuit. So now I'm just telling stories about all that work that I did and I'm getting paid. So there you go. Thank you, scientology. I'll figure it out on my end. Um, kefla, greetings from Ireland, though I'm Swedish. Not so nice to hear the news about Mike feeling better. I once got lured into a session in Birmingham when I was 25, but gave a fake name Lucky me.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you dodged a bullet on that one. Yeah, if you do go into one of those places just out of curiosity, do not give them your contact info. You will be in their system for the rest of the time.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:ST Rev girl.
Speaker 2:Sorry. We get people emailing all the time saying how do I get off the mailing list? And you're like so I've just started sending people what Google says, which is, you know, return to sender not wanted and then report it to the fraud. There's a fraud federal link that I send people. I don't know if it works, but it's worth doing something.
Speaker 1:You can also just say Xenu is my homeboy and they will put you. Take you off the list yeah they don't want to see no xenu coming back their way.
Speaker 2:That's a bad word or say xenu moved or xenu doesn't live here anymore no, just say xenu is my homeboy, he works.
Speaker 1:I'm hanging out with xenu. We had two drinks the other night. That's it. Yeah, that's funny. Rev Girl says SPTV is recruiting more non-Scientologists than orgs. Yeah, we are slaying it in the contacting people department. Scientology wishes I mean seriously, we're at almost 35,000. Scientology wishes they had 35,000 people that were subscribing to them. Metalhead says I'm curious about that woman who got intercepted in South Africa, got put on the phone with DM and he got her back. What do you think he told her? After all horror stories, nothing would work on me. That's a great question, Claire. What do you think?
Speaker 2:Well, so David Miscavige was very manipulative and controlling. So I'm I'm sure that she was probably escaping because he'd abused her whether it be verbally, physically, I don't know. I don't know the specifics but I know that it was right around the whole time of the Lisa McPherson wrongful death at the hands of, where Lisa McPherson died at the hands of Scientology and Sue. This woman had been in charge of the Religious Technology Center offices there in Clearwater, florida Anyway. So I'm sure that he made all kinds of promises to her, apologized, did whatever he had to do to get her physically back. This woman's parents were also declared suppressive people, so there was no question in David Miscavige's mind that the risk was very, very great having this woman escape, escape. So I'm sure he went to. You know he did whatever he had to do to get her on a plane to get her back.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, yeah, the interesting thing in that case? Thanks, metalhead. Um, the interesting thing in that case is that sue her name is sue gentry or she's sue will hair. Now she's married to g Greg Wilhair, who also works with David Miscavige.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And even though Sue Wilhair was the head of the Religious Technology Center office in Florida, the person that was telling her everything to do with this woman that passed away, lisa McPherson, the person who was telling her exactly what to do with that girl was David Miscavige. So, and David Miscavige was the one who was dictating the exact steps of what this girl would do himself. That's how much he micromanages things. He was dictating the next actions that would be done to handle her directly. So the fact that she passed away, with him being the one in Scientology it's called a case supervisor a person who is supervising this particular person's case, their counseling and all of their sessions and their counseling work. That's all called a case in Scientology. And David Miscavige was being her case supervisor. He was CSing her folders and so for the for the for that one person to pass away um, that kind of tells you how good David Miscavige is is at Scientology.
Speaker 2:Which which funny you say that I was. Um, look, I was going through Jesse Princeesse prince's book. Um, he's another was a very high up um person in scientology. He was part of religious technology center. But he tells this anecdote in his book, which is called the expert witness, wherein he says that, um, david miscavige was telling jesse how he had done his auditor training. He'd learned how to do Scientology counseling at St Hill when David Miscavige was a teenager. And David told Jesse yeah, I wasn't very good at it. One time I was giving this woman counseling and I ended up punching her in the face in the session. You're like, wow, okay then.
Speaker 2:Then that was never supposed to happen.
Speaker 1:That makes a lot of sense too. I could totally see that happening.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Miss Kim says we'll have a website up soon with links to everything. If anyone wants to help, please do. I'm not tech savvy. Hopefully Claire can put us together.
Speaker 2:Perfect, yeah, okay. Okay, I think miss kim has emailed me, so I'll perfect dig through that and figure that out. We have.
Speaker 1:We have some connections that can definitely be made there awesome um joan prather, who got jt in still a scientologist. I've never even heard of this woman, joan Prather. She might've had a different. She might've gotten a different name to sign. Scientologists like to get married and remarried.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think Jeff Hawkins told me about this person. I just don't know if she's still in or I don't know.
Speaker 1:Well, we'll put the word out there. If anybody knows about Joan Prather, drop us a line. Stacey says merch idea DM chew dog toy. Yeah, you know, the merch company that we're working with right now does not have dog toys. It's not the easiest thing to customize, so usually things that are flat that you can print something onto is what they like. So mouse pads, t-shirts, even mugs, they can do those. It's a small surface they can put something on. But dog chew toys not the flattest, most customizable thing, stacey. But we have asked. So if it becomes available, we will do it. Thank you for that. The Daily Owl says hi, from Poland, big fan of the channel.
Speaker 1:Random question Are there people still around in Scientology that joined in the 50s and still are active members? Oosh, there's not a lot of those. Daily Owl, thank you for that. Daily Owl, thank you for that. When we were, when I was still in Golden Era Productions, the media arm of Scientology, or any of these places that he was at in the early days in Los Angeles when he was doing lectures in Los Angeles, I want to say there was about 15 or 20 of these folks around that we could interview and every year we'd lose one or two of them.
Speaker 2:And this was 20 years ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this was back in the 90s, in the early 2000s, um, but it was not a long list of people. Almost, I want to say I'd say about 97, 97 and a half percent of the people that worked with ellen hubbard were declared suppressive persons. So, um, for somebody who wrote the book on how to spot suppressives, he he sure seemed to be working with and dealing with a lot of them in his personal life and his work life, so much so that L Ron Hubbard's own family members were declared suppressives. And that is another kind of thing that David Miscavige kind of follows in the footsteps of L Ron Hubbard, kind of thing that david miscavige kind of follows in the footsteps of ellen hubbard.
Speaker 2:david miscavige his own father was an sp um.
Speaker 1:His sister has been arrested as a drug dealer um, but he's still a scientologist. She's still a scientologist, but she's a convicted drug dealer. Yeah, um, but then um, or she sold drugs. I don't know if she was convicted as a dealer per se, but she has dealt and received payment for drugs in some form or another. That's David Miscavige's twin sister, denise.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not his son, his brother.
Speaker 1:Who His son David.
Speaker 2:Miscavige's brother.
Speaker 1:Did I say son.
Speaker 2:No, I did by mistake. I was correcting myself.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, His brother was in the Sea Organization. He's not in Scientology or the Sea Organization anymore.
Speaker 2:His niece, jenna Hill Miscavige, written a book. Jenna Miscavige Hill, yep.
Speaker 1:Suppressive person. So, yeah, David Miscavige and L Ron Hubbard not the best SP detectors they've ever had on the team over there in Scientology land. Stacey merch idea dropping the body lawn darts. Casey merch idea dropping the body lawn darts. Yeah, lawn darts are also not easily customizable and I think they're highly illegal in the United States as far as I know, because people would end up with them in their skulls or their foot or their arm or their shoulder or their back.
Speaker 1:Jan Swartz says read the documents that were forwarded to you. If they eventually used as an FBI evidence, maybe they shouldn't be posted online. Yeah, that's. I don't really think it matters where they get posted if they're evidence, because they're evidence regardless of where they end up.
Speaker 1:The thing about these documents is that in most cases there are many people that are copied on them and Scientology keeps all these separate files. So if somebody says we know these document documents exist in your files, if they were to deny it, it would almost be. It would almost be admitting that they have them, because they would be like, no, you had all these copies of them. You couldn't have left lost 5,000 documents and all of the copies in every single location that they were existing. It's just it's. It's just, uh, it's very messy and sticky with a lot of these things, just because who's involved and, oh my goodness, I don't know how you do, I don't know what you do with them as far as law enforcement goes, but I'm going to try to get them out to as many people as I can, the people that they're about yep um.
Speaker 1:Enchanted chains, jewelry question. The suppressive electrician and I are wondering if his mini mic visits clearwater amphitheater and the sandcastle pics are going to be shown. He just got transferred off the job, lol, lol, um, I, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't, we did so we did show some of those pics a lot months ago um bobble pics, when we were doing bobble pics at the amphitheater yes, we did do we have more?
Speaker 1:yes, we do well, it's just ask if they're going to be shown, right, so we show them um, not not the later ones, I don't think oh, I don't. I've never seen any of these. I don't know what any of this is about if we'll figure it out, enchanted chains, jewelry.
Speaker 2:We haven't done bobble picks in a while, though we have still been getting some here and there, so we'll figure it out yeah, if I get a lot I'll do it, but I just haven't been getting them, so I guess I mean people.
Speaker 1:If people don't send them to me, I can't show them to you guys. Yep, um penguin eye says merch idea. I see new reason to join.
Speaker 2:Oh I see new reason to join a call I see no reason to.
Speaker 1:Oh my goodness, okay, I think it's funny I don't know what this one is. Fay question mark. Tell us your story about the lock picking.
Speaker 2:Somebody was saying in the comments about on a for a construction site for a shoot or something, that you had a lock picking story. I don't know, it didn't ring an immediate bell, but maybe it was something that Mitch was talking about. I don't know. We'll have to figure that out. I don't know either. I have to figure that out.
Speaker 1:I don't know either. We'll get back to you on that. I grew up in Hollywood so I picked a lot of locks in my time. I used to be known for it. I could get into briefcases, I could get into certain locks. I just had a knack for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when someone would escape, they would always bring Mark, whatever they had that they left behind. That was locked.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and.
Speaker 2:Mark would figure out how to get into it.
Speaker 1:I'd open it up for him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, security meaning yeah.
Speaker 1:Security would come to me and say, here, I need this briefcase open. I'd be like, okay, here you go, pop it open for him. Yeah, I used to be really good at briefcase combination locks. Yeah, kind of like legendary Irma Webb Question. Yeah, like kind of like legendary Irma Webb question. Mark and Claire, do you know?
Speaker 1:The word Scientology was not coined by LRH. It comes from a 1905 book called the New Word. Yeah, this and in that book there are other Scientology things and and kind of.
Speaker 1:If you were a Scientologist and you read this book, the New Word, if you were a Scientologist and you read this book, the New Word, you are going to see that L Ron Hubbard was ripping stuff off, starting with this book in 1905. Him and he, he stole just just whole subjects or whole like kind of philosophies or ideas about something. He just took the whole thing, changed a little bit of it in some cases and in some not a lot at all. Like just said, I like all this. I'm just going to take the whole thing and I'm not even going to change the way, the verbage or anything, and that is the reason why I think we're getting a lot more Scientologists that are watching the channel and a lot more Scientologists that are reaching out to us, because there's a certain there's a certain stage of cop out in Scientology where you're like, yeah, this, this David Miscavige guy, he's out of control. I don't think I can support this.
Speaker 1:And then they kind of, they kind of start pulling back and they're using not that scientology is wrong or l ron hubbard was wrong, but david miscavige is 100 not following the policies and the procedures of scientology and just disregarding or or rewriting l ron hubbard materials which l ron hubbard says you're not allowed to do that. So it's easy for a Scientologist to say, well, I'm not going to be involved in Scientology because it's not pure anymore. But then when they once, once they do that that's the first step. Once they do that, then they start out finding out how L Ron Hubbard wasn't pure Then it's easy for for them just to say, okay, I'm out, I'm done, it was all nonsense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let me add one comment about this book. So there was a list of about in excess of 2,000 books that L Ron Hubbard had in his library, and when Bonney View was built which know $40 million mansion at the headquarters that whole the library was filled with all of this massive list of books that included that book, books from Freud, books, all kinds of books that we would never have read, and so when we were working on this project to get copies of all these books, it was pretty eye opening.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, he's. He was definitely up to no good. Hannah Reynolds said question did LRH pick up all his rules at primary school? He who smelt it dealt it. He who denied it supplied it. Level of brilliance in his approach I don't know. I don't know, but you know.
Speaker 1:It's funny that you say that because Hubbard was also another one of those people who, very similar to David, miscavige in this thing with the people you know, having relationships and then getting in trouble for doing stuff they weren't supposed to be doing. L Ron Hubbard he talked about psychiatrists and psychologists and drugs, psychiatric drugs and all this. Like if you had taken psychiatric drugs, a specific kind of psychiatric drugs, psychotropic medicines, then you were not allowed to be a Scientologist, you're not allowed to get Scientology counseling, you weren't allowed to be a Sea Org member, you could never be posted as an executive, all these sort of things. You're basically not capable of being helped anymore because you've now taken these drugs.
Speaker 1:When L Ron Hubbard passed away, those are the exact drugs that he had in his body. When they did an autopsy he was full of these drugs. So it's one of those things where Scientology is like oh yeah, you're not supposed to take drugs. And L Ron Hubbard said it's this and it's bad for this. But yeah, the dude was taking them. Ok, so when you know it's, do as I say, not as I do.
Speaker 2:Exactly, Exactly. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Kyla McDonald says and Goldie holds the wrench to almost all of the channels. She's a superhero, she really does. Holds the wrench to almost all of the channels. She's a superhero, she really does. You know, there was there is one thing that happened in different channels, like some of the SPTV channels, like we're not the boss of those channels, like some.
Speaker 1:So somebody wrote a few people have written to me and said like hey, these guys have memberships activated or these people have this on their channel. You know everyone's doing this. You know this is not our job. We're doing this because we want to do it. We feel it's helpful to some people and at least to Scientologists and other people that have been in other cults and stuff like that. But if a channel wants to enable membership so that they get their content out to those people earlier, or if you can't chat unless you're a member, that's that channel. That's how they're monetizing their channel or that's how they're doing it. Claire and I, we have our own jobs in our own businesses, so we're not doing this to. You know, put food on the table for our kids. We're doing this as a service and we just rely on YouTube to figure all that stuff out. If they put ads and they do this and we make something off of it, then great. So on that note, if you haven't hit the subscribe button, you should get on that and do that.
Speaker 2:Our goal here at Bloom for Good is inclusion, and also the YouTube analytics tells us that youtube 50 of the people here are here because youtube promoted it to them. So we want to include everybody with no strings attached.
Speaker 1:Yeah, other than hitting the subscribe button yeah, and the like and the notifications and the bell icon. Um, and it's time for another giveaway.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So we'll get back to these questions in a minute. We have been getting through a lot of questions.
Speaker 2:Let me just answer a question in the comments. So the picture behind me is a self-portrait my son did.
Speaker 1:He's got a very, very long perception of his neck.
Speaker 2:And he's very elongated in his mind. But it was intentional, it was imitating art from a time period where that was the end thing.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, there you go. Let's leave it at that then, Sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm going to fix up my background and make it all fancy and nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's got shelves coming. Okay, if you're in the chat and you want something. Yeah, she's got shelves coming. Okay, if you're in the chat and you want something, let me know what you want Merch, bobble, book, bracelet, whatever you want, get in there, I'll let people. You know, some people are like I was on the couch. I couldn't. I'm giving you enough warning so you can get to your device. I mean, people are watching on Apple TV, they're watching on their phone, their iPad, their Kindle Fire I don't know what people are watching on anything and everything these days. So you got to give them a few seconds to get up and get some of that. Okay, so that's enough time. Five, four, three, two. Oh my God, it goes so fast. We got 1,600 people in here right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And one, uh, mary H book. Okay, mary H, you get a book. Email Claire at bone for goodcom and she will send you a book. Um, it's going to be a paperback because we are running out of hardbacks, right, is it hardbacks?
Speaker 2:We're running out of paperbacks, running out of hardbacks. Right, Is it hardbacks we're running?
Speaker 1:out of no. We're running out of paperbacks Running out of paperbacks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we are, we are running out.
Speaker 1:No, I think you get it.
Speaker 2:Yes, Honey. I ship all the orders. I keep the inventory. Don't question me.
Speaker 1:But it's the paperbacks that we're running out of, yes, not the hardbacks.
Speaker 2:Well, we're running. We're getting lower, much lower, on hardbacks than we've ever been, but we will absolutely run out of paperbacks before we run out of hardbacks, but that's okay. Well, mary, let me know your preference, and whatever your preference is, that's what I'll send to you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want to say that there's two piles of books. There's a paperback stack and there's a hardback stack, and of one of those there's only like two. Is it like no, there's eight boxes of one and there's like 50 of another not 50, but yeah, no, a lot more. Okay.
Speaker 2:Well, there you go.
Speaker 1:Okay, she's taking care of business. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Trust me, I know I count up those boxes at least once every month. Well, thank you, Mary.
Speaker 1:You get a book, hardback or paperback, I don't know Just whichever one you want, it'll be signed by both of us. Back to the questions. Mary Kay Setzer says question was Dave born into Scientology? How did he get in? Ron Miscavige tells the story that when he him and his wife got into Scientology when Dave Miscavige was very young and he had he was very small and he was asthmatic and when they did some Scientology counseling on him it helped his asthma and he then became. He started doing Scientology training on how to become a counselor when he was like 14 or 15 or something like that. And then they were in England at this facility called St Hill in East Grinstead, sussex.
Speaker 2:West Sussex, yes.
Speaker 1:Oh, west Sussex, East Grinstead, west Sussex. Yeah of course.
Speaker 2:I know it's counterintuitive.
Speaker 1:It's so random. It's like I live in North Hollywood in Southern California.
Speaker 2:Yeah, see, it's exactly like that. You got it.
Speaker 1:So that is how he got in. He got in as a young child and then he joined the Sea Organization and started working for Hubbard and the Sea Organization and then later on, ron Miscavige then also joined the Sea Organization in the I want to say in the 1980s, then also joined the Sea Organization in the I want to say in the 1980s, in the, let's say, late 80s, mid to late 80s. Then Ron Miscavige joined the Sea Work and worked at Golden Air Productions as a musician. He was like a professional trumpet player. Okay, thank you, I think we answered that pretty thoroughly. Daphne's mom question are SO Sea Work staff charged for the uniform? Do they get a set amount issued or replacements as needed? Amazingly great question. Daphne's mom. Thank you. In the Sea Org you are issued a uniform of sorts.
Speaker 2:Not new yeah.
Speaker 1:Depending on where you work and depending on how long you've been in the Sea organization. If you're a new Sea Org member, you're going to get the Sea Org uniform, at least in our time Okay, from 1990 to 2005,. This is how it was done at the international headquarters, the top of all of the Scientology Sea Organizations. When I arrived at the base, I was given a set of uniforms and I would say that 75% of the uniform parts were used, used shoes, used pants, shirts, and that's it. That's really what you get. You get pants, shirts, shoes.
Speaker 1:Now, depending on your uniform and where you work, you may also get a belt and a belt buckle that has a little C or it's a little like it's it you. But a lot of times in my case, I got clothes from somebody that wasn't my size, so I had high waters for probably the first six months I was in the Sea Org. At the base I had like they came up to like my lower calf, my pants, and literally was like maybe five or six inches too short the pants. They were the right waist but not the right length, and that's just what I got. And the uniform lady her name was Paula Press and her nickname was Pogo.
Speaker 2:Was it Pogo? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1:It was Pogo right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was Pogo. You're absolutely right. And let's not skip over the fact that the way they were recycling the uniform is that when somebody would escape, boom, they just got a whole new stash of uniform to add to the pile. So nine times out of 10, you'd be wearing the uniform of somebody who had escaped, but so that would be your original assignment. There was a supposed to be an allotment that was given to you. It just never was done, and so, oftentimes too, we would end up using our $46 to buy a new pair of shoes, for example, for ourselves, or a new shirt, or whatever. So, yeah, no-transcript.
Speaker 1:Um, it'll melt, it'll burn the top of your feet. If you're standing outside the the, the shoes will soak up the sun and then they will burn your feet through your socks. That's how hot it is. So in the 19 in 1995 and I'm not sure why this happened, maybe somebody out there knows but we switched. Somebody somewhere decided maybe not the best idea to put these guys in these outfits, and I think it was because people were fainting. People were fainting. We'd have these things called a muster, where they gather everybody up and y'all stand in line and they're outside in the hot 120 degree heat and people would just be standing there for so long they they just take a, take a hit, they just fall over and hit the deck. Um on.
Speaker 2:on a couple of occasions somebody did die. I don't know that it was from heat exhaustion. Remember there was a guy that dropped dead at Walmart we were talking about that's right.
Speaker 1:But it was during that heat wave, but I don't know it was. But I mean, I think he had a heart attack. He was at Walmart, he didn't, he wasn't, he was in the store.
Speaker 2:But he wasn't that old either.
Speaker 1:No, he wasn't, and we couldn't go to Walmart after that. It was like in the early days of the into the town that we lived at, if somebody, if somebody you knew had a car which was kind of a rare thing, but if you knew somebody with a car, on Sunday mornings we get a few hours to do our laundry and to clean our room and if you got up early and didn't want to sleep in that day, you could get up and go into town and go to the store.
Speaker 2:But we would go in uniform. So that's when that became a no-no, like no more. You can't go anywhere if you're wearing uniform.
Speaker 1:Because there wasn't a lot of time to go do excursions. So you'd get dressed and you'd be ready for post. Then you'd go to Walmart and you walk into Walmart Walmart's in Hemet, California. There's no naval yards nearby.
Speaker 1:So, you'd walk in in this full fake Navy outfit with with bars and everything. Some, some people were like lieutenant, junior grade or commander or captain or whatever, and you'd walk into Walmart. It's like, hey, I didn't even, I didn't even see you guys pull in where you ducked, you know. It's like no, we're in the desert, okay, there's no sea around here, um, and it even said on the little tags it would say c organization. But when you go into walmart you have to take your tag off so nobody could see who you were, because it had your name on it too and it had your, your, the organization you were in yeah, so you were, if you were from.
Speaker 1:Also, there was a cover story for the int base that it was a film studio. So if, if you walk into Walmart with something that says CMO International, which is a very high Scientology management organization, not a film outfit, then it would be like they're not shooting films, they're managing Scientology up there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which now? And if you forgot to take your tag off, you could be assigned a lower condition.
Speaker 1:Anyway, my whole point is the uniform switching was that they got uniforms from JCrew so they got like these crew neck shirts for, like, the film teams and all these different departments of Golden Era, instead of having C-related organizations. They just switched to different color shirts. So if you were in this area, wear a blue shirt, in this area, wear a brown shirt. And they were all from J crew and and and initially it was like if you need a new shirt, you have to send something into the uniform person and they will get you a shirt. And it was like this whole thing oh, we're getting all new uniforms, yay, no more crappy C or uniforms Um. And so they switched over to this within a month.
Speaker 1:The Marona that's the Walmart brand of the same type of shirts that you could get from J crew. You can get almost all the exact same colors of a J crew shirt at the time at Walmart. It was called I want to say it was called a Marona Um anyway, and so you would just end up buying your shirts from Walmart. The uniform people never bought me those shirts. I would go after that. First they gave me three shirts for the week, which is ridiculous because you're sweating and you're hot and you're nasty every day and you're not doing laundry until that week, for sure At the end of the week. But anyway, we would go. We would buy all our uniform from Walmart pants.
Speaker 2:Somebody in the comments that it was Sonoma was the name.
Speaker 1:No, it was Marona. Trust me, I bought them. I probably have one laying around here somewhere, anyway, hey you know what Don't?
Speaker 1:don't knock, don't knock, wally's. I've gotten quite a few high-end shorts from that old Sam's Club over there. People think like, what are all these shirts you're getting? It's like, well, I do. Some of these shirts are most of the shirts you see me wear are from this place called Untuck it, and that's just because I got a big belly and I don't like to tuck in my shirts, so I get them from a place called Untuck it. I mean, it's a no brainer. But shorts, all that stuff, sam's club, costco. I'm easy, I'm like you know, I'm not, we're not spending a lot of money on clothes. Uh, uh, for me in the in the uh at uh, Sam's club. I'm, I'm pretty good there. But uh, sea Org, you're buying your own. You.
Speaker 1:A lot of SeaWorld members would pay to dry clean their uniforms. If they had some money and they bought enough parts, they would dry clean them. Oh my God, so much money, a lot of the money that you get paid. You're getting that 46 bucks a week. A lot of that money Scientology is taking right back If they're getting it through the canteen like they're selling you snacks and stuff like that and um, and you could buy your uniform parts, so like if you sent in a thing saying hey, I need a new shirt, and the girl said, oh, I can't get it through financial planning, it would have to get approved.
Speaker 1:That would never get approved through financial planning. It would always be like, no, no, we're not going to pay for that. We're not going to pay for that. We can't even pay for toilet paper. You think we're going to get Claire Headley a new shirt, but if you knew the price, you say, hey, I need a new shirt. So it's never going to get approved. How much is it? It's 35 bucks. Okay, here's 35 bucks, can I get a new shirt? And then they give you a shirt. So it's shitty, lafanda again. Thank you, lafanda. Usually your streams are at 2 to 4 am over here. I'm an ICU nurse for 35 years, working night shifts and basically transformed into an owl, perfect for SBTV Wow.
Speaker 2:Hey, there you go. Perfect, that's. Amazing.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Yeah, we do have a lot of people in a lot of places that watch this. It's crazy. We're up to 1,800 people in here right now. Hit that click, click that like button or that subscribe button if you haven't done it already. Oh, leah, leah, I've been binging your content for a couple weeks now.
Speaker 2:so thanks for that, claire. What's your take on Janice's opinion that Shelly isn't missing but is happy, comfortable and with her friends? Yeah, so I don't agree with Janice on that, which is fine. Everyone has their own opinions. I just think, if that's the case, shelly should tell that to us herself, because that's to be the sign of being free. And you know, somebody else was commenting well, how do you know she's not dead? I don't know she's not dead. And again, if I were Shelley, I would want people to keep asking questions and I would want the ability to make the choice for myself, which I know Shelley does not have, if she's still alive. So there you go. That's why I'm doing this series and keep on going.
Speaker 1:Awesome.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Okay, Emily K says so. I was flipping through the TV channels the other day and saw a Scientology TV station. What's the point of that? Does it actually get people in or is it more of an ego stroke for DM? You called it, Emily. That is an ego stroke for DM. You called it, Emily. That is an ego stroke for DM. They're not getting anyone into Scientology on that channel. In fact, Scientology is paying I can't remember what the figure is. Somebody said it. There's something somewhere. They're paying millions of dollars to have that TV channel on direct TV. Every video that's on there is also on their website, and everything on their website is useless in terms of telling you anything about Scientology.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like if the—I can't remember what the guy is. He's a cult guy, jim Jones, if he did a video on Jonestown and said how amazing it was in this tropical oasis and all that. That's essentially what Scientology is doing. I do know these videos that say how awesome Scientology is. Well, if you talk to anybody who's been in Scientology, they'll say that's not what's happening in Scientology. It ain't that awesome, it's horrible.
Speaker 1:I just heard a story. My next door neighbor went to the same Scientology school that I went to here in Colorado. We never knew each other. When the Leah, um, the uh, leah Remini, uh, scientology in the aftermath math show came out, he came over and knocked on my door. He's like hey, dude, you never told me you were in that nonsense. I was like you never told me you were in that nonsense. Um, anyway, he went to the same. He went to Delphi in Delphi, oregon. I went to Delphi, the Delphi school in Los Angeles, but his mom was was a Scientologist and she's been a Scientologist for like 50 years and she was still in and he, he, he, he went to Scientology schools but he never continued on in Scientology. He hasn't had anything to do with it for you know, like 30 years and his mom.
Speaker 1:He just talked to his mom and he said my mom finally quit. I was like what she's in her 80s, she's like, yeah, them $5,000.
Speaker 1:And then the first thing they wanted to do is send her to ethics and she was like hell, no, I'm out'm out yeah and he and he, and he was telling us he's like you already gave him two hundred fifty thousand dollars, but this five thousand you're like that's it, nope, I'm done. And so, yeah and it. So it takes this different strokes for different folks. Man, she gave these people two hundred two hundred fifty thousand dollars over her over 30, 40, 50 years. And when she gave him five thousand dollars and they didn't just give her what she paid for and they made her, they said she was in trouble and I was.
Speaker 1:She's like that's it, I'm done yep and she's like this David Miscavige is corrupted, the whole place. It's like well, maybe, but it was corrupt, it was, he's just corrupted it more. It was already messed up, he just messed it up more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, by the way, my other answer to that last comment about the channel is it's the ego. And then also it's something that David Miscavige can show to Tom Cruise and say look at me, look what I'm doing.
Speaker 1:Well, it's also something he can tell Scientologists. We've got our own TV channel now.
Speaker 2:Aren't we amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah so does Baywatch? Baywatch, a show that was on 20 years ago. There's a channel that just plays Baywatch 24-7. So Scientology congratulations on getting up to Baywatch level in the world of TV channels. If you want to watch Scientology all day and all night, these white bread, just nonsense. Videos with lens, flare and everything fogged out and effects and very highly produced nonsense that tells you nothing, go for it.
Speaker 2:Although I would say I guarantee Baywatch gets way more viewers. Yeah, well, no, yeah, no, 100 guarantee.
Speaker 1:Baywatch gets way more viewers. Yeah Well, no, yeah, no, one hundred percent Baywatch. I'll watch an episode of Baywatch before I'm watching an episode of Scientology nonsense today, or whatever they call it over there, pete in Toronto says Mark, we disappointed not to win the birthday game in March, but don't you now have more subs than Church of Scientology has members? This is true. I do have more subscribers than there of Scientology has members. This is true. I do have more subscribers than there are Scientologists I. We were kind of playing around with that birthday game thing, um, and I don't remember.
Speaker 2:I don't remember trying to get to 80,000 because that's how many the Scientology channel hand.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, maybe, maybe we'll, we'll get there, guys. I mean, scientology has been been. They spend millions and millions. And also, um, I don't want to tell scientology this, but I'm going to just because I find it so fun. But, um, scientology pays so much money on the internet for ads and stuff like that. They're. The reasons why these scientology videos get monetized and moved up in the ranks so quickly on YouTube is because the algorithm thinks that people want to know about this, because there's so much ad dollars being spent on it. So, in a weird sort of twisted way, scientology is not only paying for these videos, but they are making the algorithm put these videos at the top because they're always in the news and they're always paying for millions and millions of dollars for Google ads. So the algorithm's like people want to know about this. So YouTube sends our videos and it is true the more you subscribe, the more you like, the more you comment on videos.
Speaker 1:The algorithm does push it into the recommended videos section more yeah but, um, I want to say I'm going to look here right now, guys, I'm, I'm, I'm all about looking at the numbers here. Um recommended mark loves his analytics I do love these analytics um recommended.
Speaker 1:Of course I go to do it and I can't I hide it well, no, because when I want to see it I don't know where it's coming from. Oh, here we go. Okay, suggested videos. Right now, 35% of our viewers are coming from suggested videos, so the video gets suggested and then somebody watches it. So, and the way it's doing that is getting when they get liked and subscribed and when there's a user engagement or comments or any of that sort of thing. You know, the algorithm is a secret. We don't think they're always kind of tweaking and I think, but as far as we can understand that that's why these videos get watches. So thank you for the people who have subscribed and like these videos. We appreciate it and it helps us keep going. Ms Pillow says a little trick on the Scientology email list. Every time I receive a phishing email that shows an individual email address, I report the phishing email, but I also sign that email address up for the COS newsletter. Two birds, one stone nice, that's amazing that's such a great idea actually.
Speaker 1:Um, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure how that works exactly, but it sounds fun. Um, thank you for that. Miss below. Um, destiny salazar says do you know if scientology nursing homes are subject to any regulatory agencies? You know that's a very good question, so I'm trying to debate whether we can talk about Well, I'll just talk about this. I'll use vague terms in terms of some of these individuals, but we found that what Scientology is doing with these elderly folks that are with this is what Scientology is doing with these elderly folks that are with this is and, to be fair, almost all of these cases that we're dealing with these days are C org members that are becoming elderly.
Speaker 1:There was another thing that was happening, which totally separate to this, where Scientology had elderly civilian members that they were signing up for credit cards, and that's when this whole chase wave it's called the chase wave is generally how it's referred to where Scientology was committing tens of millions of dollars worth of credit card fraud, and so much so that the chase credit card company said we will not work with you anymore, like if you are from a Scientology facility or business ors, sometime in the late 80s or late 80s, mid 80s, american Express did the same thing for the exact same reason. They were charging people's cards and the people weren't being, were not either were not aware of it, or they said you can put fifty dollars and they put five thousand. That sort of thing. They said you can put $50 and they put 5,000, that sort of thing.
Speaker 1:So the thing that they're doing now is not only are they doing that credit card fraud of course they're elderly, we're going to get that money but the other thing that they're doing is they're then taking those people and putting them in a nursing home or some sort of care facility. Whether it's a legit nursing home or not, it could just be an apartment building with a bunch of folks that are older in it, and they're using their Social Security payments to pay the minimum balance on the credit cards and to pay whoever is renting this apartment building out or the room out for their person and in some cases they're. They're ganging members up in these apartments, so they might be paying for a one bedroom apartment, but they might have six elderly people in it or whatever. We I'm not. I don't know exactly how it's being done, but we do know that there are places where they're putting these people, where they're not being properly cared for.
Speaker 2:Yep, and absolutely do.
Speaker 1:And not only that, but those places are sort of acting like a camp for them. So if they want to leave, there's somebody there says no, no, no, no, no, no, you're not supposed to go anywhere, just stay right here. Let me call somebody if you want to end up going out. And so if somebody is trying to take off, or if a family member comes to visit them or finds out they're there and says, hey, we're getting out of here, then that person lets somebody know hey, the son just came and he's taken the person. And we actually were able to find an elderly Sea Org member. We were able to locate them exactly where they were at. We got family members and some other people to go and get that person and within minutes we had the head of that nursing home or what care facility, whatever you want to call it was on the phone with us threatening to call the police if we didn't bring the person back, even though the person was like you got to get me out of here.
Speaker 2:No, they threatened the elderly person. I understand us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I know I understand, but as soon as we level worse, yeah, well, yeah, they did say it to the elderly person, but then, once they figured out that the elderly person wasn't acting on their own, they then threatened you better return this person, otherwise there's going to be consequences. We didn't do anything, we're just like whatever. Yeah, the consequences are you're going to get shut down, shut up, um, anyway, but um, it's horrible, it's horrible and it's not. And this is, this is sort of a thing. When you're in the c-org you do wonder, like, what's going to happen when I get older and you start to see when you're there.
Speaker 1:Like one time at the international headquarters, they just got a bunch of buses and they put all the old people on it and they were gone.
Speaker 1:So one day you woke up, you woke up and you know 80 percent of the old folks were gone. That day there was and these were people that had been in the Sea Org their entire lives, like they were on the, the tugboat or ferry cow ferry or whatever. Whatever the Apollo, the Sea Org ship was before L1 Hubbard bought it. They were on that boat with L1 Hubbard and then they were at the base and they weren't all these and they were just like Thrown out like the trash, just like, hey, these guys, they're not working past dinner and and the the that was. Another thing is that when these people start aging out in the Sea Org, their schedule gets less and less. So you had people coming in in the morning bus for breakfast and they were leaving on a lunch bus to go home. They literally could only work for three hours because they're just not able to be a full, have a full time job at 72.
Speaker 2:And they had to have special approval to get onto that shortened schedule. And a lot of times it would be denied or you'd have elderly people that instead of going home at midnight, they were allowed to go home at 10 PM. Yes, that's right.
Speaker 1:For a long time it would be like, oh, where are they going?
Speaker 1:And be like, oh, they're securing early. And you'd be like what? And be like, well, they're elderly, dude. And you'd be like, where are they going? To be like, oh, they're securing early. And you'd be like what? And be like, well, they're elderly dude. And you'd be like, I know, but it's like 10 o'clock. They get to go home that early. I'm saying 10 pm at night, so we would have got there at eight and if you were elderly, they'd let you go home at 10. And then it got to the point where, you know, somebody had a stroke or somebody fell down or somebody broke their leg or something. Be like, okay, we'll let them go home at dinner from now on.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then if you were really up there and maybe one time I'll have to tell that Barry story.
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness, that's in your book. It is yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, you got to look at the book for that one. It's not PG-13, folks. Anyway, get a copy of Bl blown for good behind the iron curtain of scientology by mark headley. We went way off topic on that one. Jill harrison with divorce so commonplace and no biggie, why doesn't dm just divorce shelly and remarry to take pressure off? Where is his wife?
Speaker 2:good question, jill and the answer to that is because of what shelly knows, he will not do that because he does not want to lose control of her. Yes, and also he doesn't much care about the rules, as we learned from Jackson's story that you know why who needs a divorce.
Speaker 1:Who's going to tell on him the girl he's getting busy with these days? I don't think so. Not so much. Stacy says. Have you seen the Jonathan Ross interview with Courtney love talking about Scientology, warlords, kirstie Allie, tom Cruise's wedding and LRH saying we come from mollusks? Lol, I've never seen that, but all of those things sound accurate.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:I have not seen that. Is it recent? Maybe somebody can post, send me a link. Put a link in the comments and I'll check it out or email us a link. That would be great. Yeah, John Satowski says they will get my lawn darts when they pry them out of my cold, dead hands. Thank you, John. Thank you, John. Frequent flyer John here. Yes, Gina Marie Torino. Thank you for the super sticker. Evelyn Lee Barney. Plastic ball tip search. Lawn darts game. Yeah, no, I know, I know what lawn darts are.
Speaker 2:We missed the 30 minute giveaway, Mark, I think.
Speaker 1:No, we gave it away, we did the second one.
Speaker 2:Oh, I thought we were doing one every 30 minutes.
Speaker 1:Oh, I see, we did one at 45 and then we did one in an hour. You want to do another one? I thought we had two. If you're fine to do another one, we'll do a final one at the and then we won't did one in an hour. You want to?
Speaker 2:do another one. I thought we had two you, uh, if you, if you're fine, to do another one, final one at the end.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm trying to get through the last of these questions. They keep coming um, chow, young schmutt. Um, I need to get a mini mic because I'm going to be in both aruba and curacao in august. Might need to snap some photos of mike with the free, free wins, okay. Well, if you've got enough money to go to Aruba and Curacao, just go to the spshopcom or the spshop. Isn't there a new one now that we have?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we have to do the final steps of linking it, but the other one hold on.
Speaker 1:It's in the description, the link's in the description. You can go there and get one. They're not that much the bobbleheads, I think this was. I mean, I need to get a mini mic. Okay, get a mini mic. I approve of this message. Yes, you need a mini mic. If you're going to Aruba and Curacao, then you need to snap some photos of Mike with the free ones. Absolutely, I agree, thank you. Gina Marie sends another super sticker there. Thank you for that, gina. Oh, here's another one. Gina Marie sends another super sticker there. Thank you for that, gina. Oh, here's another one, gina Marie, thinking of your love story, mark and Claire, no matter what. Oh, thank you for that. Yeah, yes, we are been together for 31 years, almost, so almost.
Speaker 2:August is our 31st 31st anniversary.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, didn't we start dating in May, or some nonsense like that.
Speaker 2:Just take it easy, yeah we started dating in may or some nonsense like that. Just take it easy we started dating in may and we got married in august it's like a 12 year old celebrating my five and a half birthday now.
Speaker 2:Now, honey, don't don't do that. Uh, we were gonna get married in july, but that didn't work out because my mom did not approve. Right at the moment she was like like remember, she was trying to get me to wait six months, like for someone that got married when you were eight months pregnant with me, that's pretty comical.
Speaker 1:And how old was she?
Speaker 2:17.
Speaker 1:Exactly, it's like come on mom yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh boy, metalhead again. Was that leaked TCC of S video actually written by anyone? It sounds as if they told him just make stuff up as you go. Oh my god, I think we did a video about this on Aaron's channel. I can't remember where. I've talked about this video in a million different places. That video was the third in a series of Tom Cruise videos and that was just Tom Cruise talking. They just asked him questions about him and then he answered questions about him and then he answered questions about him to a camera and then David Miscavige spent days meticulously cutting that video together. So that video is a snapshot of David Miscavige's mind of what would be the best possible things Tom Cruise could say to talk about how awesome Tom Cruise was. And so that video we're talking about, the black turtleneck video, which is like if you got KSW and have you ever met an SP?
Speaker 2:The only person who can help at the site of an accident or whatever nonsense that was. Oh my gosh, I cannot even watch it anymore. It's just so cringy.
Speaker 1:I want to say that it was about an hour, maybe an hour or two of footage. It was a small camera crew just talking to Tom and that video is unedited. It looks like somebody chopped it up and made it. No, that's David Miscavige chopping it up. What's out there is what David Miscavige spent days and days, just even the when the music comes in and the way the announcer goes Tom Cruise has introduced billions to Scientology and they and they just take like if you watched a Tom Cruise movie, you've been introduced to Scientology. That they just take like if you watched a Tom Cruise movie you've been introduced to Scientology.
Speaker 2:That's how they come up with the billion. There's this one section in that video where Tom Cruise is walking and the VO was like Tom Cruise, and then Tom Cruise goes and then it's Scientologist. David Miscavige worked on that 10 seconds for at least a full 24 hours around the clock. It was insane.
Speaker 1:Oh, here Rusty says Muscovage wedding definitely before December 82, 80, 81 in MCI. Mci is Massacre Canyon Inn, which is the dining hall that we used to eat in. There was a giant massacre there many years ago where some Indians and some cowboys or I can't remember who was involved, but there was a massacre there and that the name of the eating the dining hall we ate in was called Massacre Canyon Inn. David Miscavige wedding definitely before December 82, 81, 80, 81 and MCI I left in spring 82. They'd already been married a while, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so maybe it was December 81. I'll double check that. The information I have was December 82,. But thank you for that and, yeah, maybe shoot me an email. I'd love to pick your brains on any other information you might want to share.
Speaker 1:Yes, we're literally getting pieces of stuff from all over the place and so, yeah, we're putting it all together.
Speaker 2:But even if it was December 81, they'd still been a you know, quote, unquote. Anyway, yeah, neither here nor there, but thank you for that.
Speaker 1:If they were boinking for two years or three years, it doesn't matter To any Sea Org member that got in trouble for that it is a huge deal in the world of Scientology that David Miscavige and Shelley Miscavige were lying when being interrogated and lying about not going out 2D and they were working for Hubbard. If you were in the Sea Organization, this is a scandalous revelation to anyone else they're like, whatever.
Speaker 2:Who doesn't do that I know?
Speaker 1:And that's the craziest part is in the Sea Org. There's so much significance put on this that people's careers and over these type of things and we've known of, I want to say we knew, we knew of people that went to the RPF and we. But we know of people that left the Sea Org because of something like this. Like they, it was found out they did something and then we never saw them ever again, and they may have been there for 20 years before that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Nurse Lori says. Been watching from the beginning, got hooked watching the aftermath. Can't wait for Claire and Hannah's books. Yes, hannah's writing a book too. That's right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hannah's way more done than I am too. Yeah, well, she said she's at like 80%. I'm at 25%. I got to get my. I got to quit playing. Drag us.
Speaker 1:She said it, not me. Folks, thanks for the super sticker. I did. I own it. People are trying to.
Speaker 2:Amy PH.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's my translation. If you say so, I think people are trying to throw me off here. Pat Shore, mark, she is your superior, don't question her. Lol, love when you guys go back and forth like that. Okay, that's what I'm saying here. I'm saying here, I'm like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:I know I always laugh when people get ticked off about various different things. I'm like oh my gosh, we've been married almost 31 years, Like seriously.
Speaker 1:And guess who's starring all these questions? Yeah, this one right here. Mousy says oh, it's just nonstopstop. Now uh. Mousey says mark wears the pants, claire decides which ones. It never ends I can never, can never. Uh, no win. Uh, oh, marilyn. Marilyn honick says hi, mark and claire love. You guys just tuning in, but wanted to remind everyone. Monday night after aaron's live stream is the 10 hour chat-a just to show Mike our love and appreciation. Hashtag DMike. Thank you, marilyn. Yeah, they're doing. It's Clearwater Chad. They're at Clearwater Chad, marilyn. I don't know if Denver Stevo is involved with that, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Denver Stevo definitely is. They have all these guys that have these channels and they're going to do this chat-a-thon a 10-hour. I think that might even be the max that YouTube lets you do I'm not sure but they're going to do a 10-hour broadcast to support my hashtag team Mike. I've been telling people you don't have to do it because Mike and Christy did this video. They said they're good for now, but if people want to show support, I'm not going to tell them not to show support.
Speaker 2:And I got to say their line up all night for the love of Mike. I love that. It's just the best. It's just the best. We love Mike, we all love Mike.
Speaker 1:We do.
Speaker 2:And we are all rooting for Mike.
Speaker 1:So yeah, oh, here's a good one. Witness says Hemet is like this surface of the sun, sometimes so hot.
Speaker 2:Totally, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:It is so hot there. You know that property.
Speaker 2:It's like hell. It's like working in hell.
Speaker 1:That property. If you wanted to tell somebody like what's the hottest place you could ever, that is one of those place, like it would. I think the highest that it ever got when I was personally there in the summer was one. I think I want to say 124, 124, 125 recollection to but 100 and what? Somebody, somebody in the comments say what's 125 Fahrenheit? What is that in Celsius? Because we got all these people over in Europe, we got to convert this. I can't convert it, I'm not a scientist, anyway.
Speaker 2:Come on, guys, cut us a break. I was born in a cult.
Speaker 1:But it is so hot there that, yeah, people would pass out 50 Celsius.
Speaker 2:50 Celsius is how much 125 degrees is 50 celsius.
Speaker 1:So wherever, um, wherever you've been, that's been 50, 50 celsius. That's like august, september, like july, august, september at the international headquarters. That's what it's like, and it is. It's almost like just to go from one building to another building, like to go to lunch. You gotta run, otherwise you will get cooked, you'll get sunburned on the way there. It's that hot and you and when we did wear black shoes, you're the tops of your feet would get burnt for standing out in the sun for like five or ten minutes.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Ms Pelosi is trying to get a friend now retired to write his story when he went to Golden Arrow Productions to inspect sprinklers and he encountered all kinds of Scientology weirdness. We'll send story when I get it Awesome.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, please.
Speaker 1:We have heard from so many contractors and so many professionals that went to do something at a Scientology facility and one of the guys that I was talking to that was at construction in Florida said that one time they were finishing something at this building. It's called the Fort Harrison Hotel and it's pretty much the original Scientology building in downtown Clearwater that they bought back in the 70s and and they were doing some kind of renovations or something there and one of the construction guys said I think he was a drywall guy or a carpet guy or some trade like that and he said he opened a closet and there was a Sea Orc member in there that had been vacuuming and fell asleep in the closet standing up and somebody had just closed the door and left them in there and there was a vacuum running and everything and they were just in a closet just upright snoozing it.
Speaker 2:Well, you fell asleep in the baffles up in the sound studio once right I didn't really fall asleep.
Speaker 1:I kind of was up there for so many days that I couldn't kind of unbend oh, that's right.
Speaker 1:Yes, and they had to kind of like they had to maneuver me out. I've been, I've been wiring up there in like the fetal position for so long that when I went to extend I couldn't. My back was all, the muscles were all cramped and from being in that position for so long and they literally had to kind of carry me in a stretcher to somewhere. And this chiropractor guy had to like like unwind me. Um, m, m, nancy. Oh, one says Mark, my man, where have you been? I so enjoy the two of you and your content. Someone should knock that guy out. I don't know who you're talking to. I do not condone violence, but if somebody needs to be knocked out, I'm sure somebody will deal with it.
Speaker 2:I know, I know.
Speaker 1:Scientology gets really excited if you're like, oh yeah, you know, somebody sent me some of the David Miscavige shoes that had like rockets fired at like a Scientology facility and I was like, yeah, no, we do not endorse rockets. Rockets is too much. Destiny Salazar, what do you think the daily life with Davey is like right now? Daily life with Davey is not good right now. He is probably I mean the boss baby throws tantrums when the boss baby there Aaron just did a video about there's a case going on, a human trafficking, forced imprisonment, whole case going down in Florida and they've appealed this arbitration portion of that, healed this arbitration portion of that.
Speaker 1:And if they, if the courts and the lawyers, can figure out a way to navigate around this Scientology arbitration nonsense that they've sort of locked into, if that can be done, that's going to be the end of it. Because as soon as Scientology is kind of rigged the system right now where they make you sign these documents and say when you leave, if you want to do anything with us, you got to do it on our terms, you can't go to the courts and the courts are like sounds good to us and they've sort of left it up to Scientology to do their own justice, which is crazy if you think about. Well, these people are being abused, though, and they've tried it every single time. It didn't work in that Danny Masterson thing, and it's certainly not going to work in some of these other things, but for Sea Org members that have left and are trying to sue Scientology to sue Scientology in a civil case Scientology has been able to get away with it with this arbitration thing.
Speaker 2:Of recent years, amy Scobie and I, on one of our Wednesday weekly shows, talked all about that extensively, how this is a legal lawyer fabrication by Scientology to try and dodge these lawsuits. So if this can get walked back and it absolutely should be, because it's not a real thing- yeah, maria de jesus says hashtag t mike.
Speaker 1:Thank you for that maria maria sent us some amazing footage which is likely going to be in our new video that we have coming out in the next few weeks. Um, hopefully, uh, either. I think we either said it was going to be the beginning or mid of July is when we're going to have this video, this new video that we've been working on, come out. But yes, thank you for that, maria Stephanie Stewart. Up here we go. Easy conversion Fahrenheit to Celsius temperature minus 30, divided by two, remember that everybody.
Speaker 2:That's what. That's what our friend just said. We were just chatting with a very dear friend of ours in England. That's exactly the formula he said. I just wasn't paying close enough attention.
Speaker 1:I wasn't either. He was like minus 30. I was like minus 30. Thank you, stephanie. We just talked to somebody who said the same thing and we didn't remember it five minutes later. So, hopefully, minus 30 divided by two. Minus 30 divided by two.
Speaker 2:We need to practice it a few times.
Speaker 1:Make it stick, carmina Manana, never in and fascinated how Scientology attracted the smartest and brightest with change the world vibe. Yeah, yeah, they were. It was very Scientology in the 60s and the 70s was very like hippie counterculture. You know, like man we're going to, we're not, we're going to buck the system, man. And now it's like an authoritarian, overbearing cult masquerading as a religion, doing business as a crime, syndicate, elder abuse. You know everything they could scram into there. Jackie, much love to you and Mr Rinder. Aloha from a walkie world, honolulu. This is Jackie. Thank you, jackie thing. They could scram into there. Uh, jackie, much love to you and mr render.
Speaker 2:Aloha from woggy world, honolulu oh, this is jackie thank you, jackie she's the 60 something year old spark woman who does uh skateboarding in her backyard. I watch her video. It's amazing. Like nice hats off to you, jackie seb.
Speaker 1:Sebastian Ospina, superstar Girl. Thank you for that. Thank you for that.
Speaker 2:Oh, here she is, and yes, shout out to Mark Fisher and Janice Grady. They have a live stream coming up at 7 pm Eastern time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's why we have to get out of here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1:Are we feeding into that? Is that when we end?
Speaker 2:No, because it's. I think. If I'm not mistaken, it's in an hour and eight minutes that they're starting, not if it's five eastern no, he said hold on. I said what time it was, but it wasn't five eastern, 7 pm eastern, which is 5 pm mountain time oh okay, well, we can't forward into that.
Speaker 1:but there you you go, don't do it. Okay. Chow Young Smut says I'm not rolling in it, I'm going on a cruise for a professional conference. But yeah, once I'm back in Minnesota I'll be placing an order from the SP Chow Young, don't mind Mark.
Speaker 1:I know I was just saying I'm like I'm going to curse out Aruba. Can you send me a bobblehead? It's like, well, okay, you know like, let's, let's evaluate the situation here. One of us is going on a cruise and one of us is not, and one of us wants to give the other a bobblehead. I don't know, maybe not fair, honey, though.
Speaker 2:We go on cruises and we're not rolling rolling in it either.
Speaker 1:I understand, but I'm also not asking someone to send me a bobblehead. I mean, I do have a few hundred, but whatever, that's not the point. Borderline, what says we love poet. Okay, um, there is, I think, somebody in the chat um called poet that's stirring up craziness and then they love it. Um couch says coffee tastes awesome in my Xenu coffee mugs. Oh yeah, that is a huge deal. We are selling a ton of Hale Xenu coffee mugs. And is there Xenu as my homeboy coffee mugs as well?
Speaker 2:That's a good question. If there's not, we should add that I'll make a note. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:We're selling a ton of Where's Shelly coffee mugs and Blown for Good mugs.
Speaker 2:And coffee. Wear Shelly coffee mugs and blown for good mugs and coffee does taste better. The first of the Theta potato.
Speaker 1:Um sure, theta potato we got not today Thetan. Um, if you say it, not today Thetan, it sounds even better. Um but um, yes, there is a ton of great merch. If you guys haven't checked out the merch, there is a funny one. Oh, maria says post the release for me to sign. I think I have the release and I think Claire sent it to me and I just didn't put it in the folder.
Speaker 2:So I'll do that, Maria. That's exactly right. Thanks for the reminder, Maria.
Speaker 1:Sorry, you had to do a super sticker for that. I've got like 600 emails waiting for me to do something on. Mer P says question Besides Mike. On uh murpy says question besides mike who surprised you the most when they left? Uh scientology? Um, that mitch guy surprised me when he left yeah, he was a lifer, senior, surprised me yeah, the only thing about ron senior was, I think I, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I kind of really knew r Ron and I kind of saw. I kind of thought if somebody is going to go, he's going to go, maybe. But Mitch I talked about. I've talked about Mitch a bunch of times. This is Mitch Brisker, the one that just did the video with Janice and Mark.
Speaker 1:I've told a lot of stories about those times and stuff like that and for the most part I think you know Mitch was just he was sort of an outsider, he was a seat, he was a paid, he was essentially just a higher paid Sea Org member.
Speaker 1:But he had a whole life, he had a family and he had a house and a mortgage and you uh, you know everything that you have in that world. But he worked in the Sea Org world and it ruined his regular life. I want to say they ruined his relationships and things he could have done if he was just being a dad and a husband and you know live in his life. But because he was living in this sea organ and organization environment, it didn't. It just didn't work out and it was a horrible. It took a horrible toll on him and, um, it's just a sad story. And it's another one of these stories where he started getting older and they had they started bringing in new young kids and young directors and he was like, ah, I don't like this. And it was just like you know, more and more it's like sorry old man, you know we're done with you.
Speaker 2:We'll definitely talk to Mitch. I really liked his wife, Allison, at the time. But, yeah, Mitch was a unique person in so many ways because he was for all int and purposes being a seer member, but he wasn't yeah, and he wasn't being paid that much.
Speaker 1:I thought when I was in the seer I thought he was getting, you know, millions of dollars. But you know, then when I left I was like, oh, he really wasn't making that much money, like he was basically covering his his monthly nut, if that maybe not even that on a few occasions we really tried to get get to be able to talk to him.
Speaker 1:Remember one time we even drove by his house to see if he was there to just oh, I sent him emails, yeah, oh, I might even have talked about this on a live stream.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is the guy I was telling you guys about. I sent him emails in 2005. When I got out, I sent him emails and said, dude, you got to get out, I got to talk to you, I got to tell you some stuff. And I kept sending him and kept sending him and finally he just said, dude, I don't want to hear from you ever again, don't talk to me. And I was like, okay, I tried. And then, ever again don't talk to me. And I was like, okay, I tried. And then, you know, I started talking to him, you know, a few weeks ago, and he's like I was like, hey, just to you know, just be fair, I tried. And he's like I know, I wish I could get those. You know what is that?
Speaker 2:That's 17 years, 18 years 18 years. Yep.
Speaker 1:So if you're watching this and you're in Scientology, years yep, so if you're watching this and you're in scientology. You know ain't no time like the present that money may be gone, but every extra minute you spend there you ain't getting that back. You can't make the time again. You can always make more money, you can always, uh, buy another car or another house, or you can always do all that stuff, but the time's gone every time. All the minutes you waste, those are gone forever.
Speaker 1:Yep Time memories, those are things you can't ever get back. Vsb since 1970, says much respect to you both for all you do. Thank you for that. We appreciate it. We appreciate all the support you guys. We appreciate all the guys tuning in here to watch this stuff and those who like and subscribe. We also have a special place in our heart for you people as well. We are, and we are almost to the end of this stream. Chiyoko B says super sticker, thank you, and Kate tops it says super sticker. That's all. It is perfect, love it. Thank you. Here we go.
Speaker 1:Michael Lake, can you say how many people aftermath foundation has helped escaped? It's incredible what you both do, more than Scientology has to make the world better. I don't know if we're keeping track like that, because it's different Some people there's kind of all different categories for the Aftermath Foundation. The Aftermath Foundation is there to help people sort of get back on their feet once they've left Scientology. Every once in a while, someone, the person who's leaving Scientology it hasn't done it yet and we help them leave and then we help them get back on their feet.
Speaker 1:But we've helped people that were in the Sea Org maybe a few years ago and they left or they were in Scientology their whole life and now their family have disconnected from them because they said they no longer want to be involved in Scientology. So everybody has a different story and in most cases these people. This is not the best time, maybe when you first get out. Maybe that's not the best time to share your story, maybe after a year or so, when you get your feedback on the ground and you sort of figure everything out. And so we're not eager to share those people's stories with anybody.
Speaker 2:And we want those people to share their stories or not. It's no strings attached. There's no. When the Aftermath Foundation helps somebody, there's absolutely no requirement that they speak out ever Nothing, Um. And also the help that is provided varies so widely there's many, many pieces of that that we don't really put a number on, like just talking to people helping with resumes, career mentorship, all of those elements. But we are absolutely definitely gaining some really good momentum, Like last year. The direct assistance we provided by dollar amount was, I think, want to say triple what we've done in prior years. Yeah, so we're absolutely gaining amazing momentum and those stories will be shared.
Speaker 1:So, yes, yeah, For all those that want to share, we're perfectly happy to do so. Rocket Out with Kim D Hi, says Claire. What's the name of your fur baby?
Speaker 2:Oh hi, Kim D. Hey, well, I have four fur babies. Bella is my German Shepherd. She's not here right now. Max is Mark's fur baby, more so I mean, if you ask Max right before dinner, he'll say he's my fur baby. And then our kitty kitties are Oreo and Jazzy, and then there's the salamander. That's Mark's project it's project, it's grayson's well, yeah, but you found him and brought him into the home when we had a pet moratorium it's true.
Speaker 1:Um laurie in georgia says when I was little, I thought clearing the planet meant beaches oh, that's amazing that's amazing it funny, we're clearing the planet. We're picking up cans off the beach.
Speaker 2:So my version of that was I would always hear people talking about Scientology, saying that it was brainwashing, and I was like how does that work? Do you put your brain in a washing machine? Like what is that Bizarre?
Speaker 1:John Satowski says should rum and Coke be called the Xenu cocktail? No, rum and Coke was Hubbard's thing, so you could call it the Blubberd Hubbard or you know we could make a name for that. I'm pretty sure that whatever drink Xenu likes has glycol in it. I don't know how you would do that. That's what he put all the body things in the people who were frozen and put them in the volcanoes.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, if we ever do an SP cruise, we'll figure out a Zinu cocktail. We'll have a costume contest. We'll have another night where we just do Scientology songs karaoke. We stand tall, you know all that.
Speaker 1:I don't know why we're waiting for a cruise. We need to think of some drinks. Right now people are doing drinking games. If you guys have ideas for Xenu-themed cocktails, shoot us an email or just get in the comments. You don't have to email us everything. Just go in the comments and say you know, put a little bit of this and a little bit of that and we'll call it the Xenu Rum Jumper.
Speaker 2:Well, we're not going to see it. We don't go back and read the comments. That's why.
Speaker 1:I do.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, all right.
Speaker 1:Well then tell me, I even answer questions in the comments. There's a lot of times people put they don't get them here and I'll just go and like, oh yeah, I know the answer to that and I'll just write the comments.
Speaker 2:Okay Chat. I said comments, I mentioned comments.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no, I know, I know, I was just reaffirming that's what I got to deal with folks.
Speaker 2:You see what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying it's just like I can't win, I can't lose, it's just like you know I'll do it. You know I'll do it. Let's do a giveaway. I got all those questions. I did a ton of questions that weren't super chats or whatever you call them, super stickers, and you know I'm an equal opportunity chat answerer. Ok, do we want to do? We'll do a giveaway and then we'll wrap this, wrap this piggy up.
Speaker 2:Yep and don't forget to get on over to Scientology Stories, peeling the Onion in 56 minutes for their live stream.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we've got. Yeah, if you want to get something, get in there, get in the comments. I'm going to do a countdown here. We are definitely getting some. Wait a minute, what time is it? Oh yeah, no, I've caught up. I have caught up. It's just, it goes fast when there's 2000 people in here. Okay, so we'll do a five, four, three, two and a big old. Oh, wait a minute, I am behind. Sorry guys, I got to catch up. I had it. There we go. I'm back. I'm back. Here we go. I got it. It took me a little bit.
Speaker 2:I know I was like we're not done with comments either, honey.
Speaker 1:There's, johnny, there's a couple left. No, there's. Oh, there is one. I saw that. Okay, merch, for me 2D.
Speaker 2:Okay then.
Speaker 1:Rachel, Rachel, Rachel. Send Claire an email at blownforgoodcom and you will get some merch for your 2D. And yeah, let's do this. Last question. Oh, it's John Satowski, the Scientology cocktail. No alcohol, you just drink the Kool-Aid. That's a great one. That's a great drink. We can make a drink recipes for the people who like to do the drinking games when we do a live and we can say we can just give the recipes of them and that'll be the Scientology cocktails.
Speaker 2:Be like that way can participate too.
Speaker 1:That's right. They can literally mix up. Who's what? Is it A Kool-Aid man, you know? The guy busts through the wall the giant jug of sugar water. Thank you for that, john Satowski.
Speaker 1:John Satowski is a frequent flyer here. I think I'm going to go out on a limb and say we haven't done a live that he hasn't been on. This seems like maybe he's an AI robot that just when we do a live, he's got some little program that goes in and then does some super jazz. I don't know how he could just be on every single one that we've ever done, and it does seem interesting to me. I wonder about this. Thanks for tuning in today, guys. I'm glad we could do this.
Speaker 1:We're going to be recording a bunch of other videos today that are going to be coming out over the next few weeks. I am going on a work trip and I will be out for a few weeks, so I'm going to try to crank out as many um lives and as many pre-recorded videos before I take off on that trip and um, and I will not be bringing my whole rig um to this hotel that I'm going to be at because I'm it's a. It's a short. Uh, it's a lot of work that we've got to do in a short amount of time and, um, I can't be messing around with videos and doing other stuff. So, um, we're going to try to get as much of that out.
Speaker 1:Claire's still going to be around. She might do live, she might do whatever, um, during that time period. But, uh, but, my days are numbered and that is why we've been doing less videos is just because we have so much work happening in our, in our regular lives, not, um, yeah, I'm going to be on a work trip for a few days, coming up here too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we're busy, but we're going to be cranking out some content and I just wanted to show this last comment just cause it's funny. Loadsome squirrel, also known as CO bilf, says people who say merch after the giveaway is done Our PTS. People who say merch after the giveaway is done are PTS. That's a potential trouble source.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they can head on over to the spshop-forthwallcom and get themselves a potential trouble source sweatshirt.
Speaker 1:And I do have to say in those people who are PTS for commenting, merch after, is that sometimes, depending on the connection and I know this to be true because I've done it myself is that sometimes these comments, if you're on a phone in the middle of nowhere by the time it gets up to the satellite and then gets back down to a ground station and then gets to the internet and then makes it over to YouTube. A minute or two has sometimes passed before it populates into what we're seeing here. So it's not always instantaneous, and that is one of the reasons why I do this whole kind of preamble and do a countdown is so that those people can get to get their comment up by the time we hit. So anyway, so thank you for that and thank you for the funny comment. Lonesome squirrel aka squirrel aka co bilf. I think that's it. Did I forget anything? Did we cover everything we needed to cover? We?
Speaker 2:covered everything.
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