Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed
Marc Headley worked at Scientology’s secret desert compound, which houses all Scientology management, for 15 years. The 500-acre property is located deep in the California desert. The local townspeople were told lectures and films were made there. But is that all that was happening? It is the location of a multi-million dollar home for L. Ron Hubbard, built two decades after his death. It is the home of Scientology’s current leader, David Miscavige. So what really happens at the Int Base? Are the stories on the internet true? How does Scientology conduct management of its day-to-day operations? Could stories of armed guards, weapons, staff beatings, and razor wire fences be true? If so, how could a facility like this exist in modern-day America? Hundreds of staff tried to escape over the years. Some succeeded but were never seen or heard of again, and most failed. Why were people kept here? What really went on at the headquarters of Scientology? This is the story of what happened behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology.
Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed
What do they call the aliens in Scientology? - Scientology Stories #51 w/ Claire & Marc Headley
This episode originally aired on YouTube on February 23, 2025.
In this episode, we delve into the intricate lexicon of Scientology, exploring key terms like “blown,” “Xenu,” and “overts” to understand their meaning and underlying implications on members. Through a nuanced discussion of how language functions as a control mechanism within the church, we uncover the profound effects of these terms on identity, belief, and community cohesion.
• Discusses the term "blown" and its implications for those who leave Scientology
• Explains the concept of Xenu and its significance in the church
• Explores "overts and withholds" as mechanisms for moral policing within the group
• Examines the role of "implants" and "Thetan" in members’ spiritual beliefs
• Analyzes the principles of ARC and their impact on communication within Scientology
We're also sharing some exciting updates about our channel and a new giveaway at the end of the show!
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Hey guys, welcome back to the channel. I'm Mark Hedley and I am joined today by my lovely wife, claire.
Speaker 2:Hello everybody, thank you for being here.
Speaker 1:Claire, hello everybody, thank you for being here. Hopefully you guys can hear us and hopefully we look good and sound good. We're a little bit rusty. We haven't done this in a while and, yeah, we're having all kinds of fun. If you want to tell us in the comments where you're watching from today, we always like to do that at the beginning of the video and then, if you add hashtag Zinu into the comments, you will be entered into our giveaway that we're going to do at the end of the end of the show today. If we, if we end up, if we get through what we're where we have lined up a little early, we might do a Q and a, but no matter what, we'll do a giveaway at the uh, at the end of the stream yes and um people are commenting on your beard, honey oh well, the beard.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, I do have a beard now, because I was in the northeast for uh for the winter and, um, yeah, it was uh, it was very cold, it was single digits or lower.
Speaker 2:Um didn't you say it was negative 10 degrees? Your first day on site?
Speaker 1:It was some unbearable temperatures, but we made it.
Speaker 2:We thought we had it bad here in Colorado, but hell no, maine is much colder.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was very cold. Claire just gave up my location.
Speaker 2:Oh, an entire state yeah.
Speaker 1:I was in Maine. Scientology couldn't find me. Um, anyway, yeah, so it's all good we're back. Um, we, uh, we've. We built this fancy studio in the basement and, uh, got it all set up so we could move out of my Depeche Mode listening room, which is where my, our setup was, my setup was, and Claire had hers in her office.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and office and studio don't really combine well together.
Speaker 1:So you know, when you it's just mixing topics, accounting and exposing Scientology are a little challenging, for Zoom calls to have all the paraphernalia being appropriate yeah, we um, we got the studio, we got the, the listening room back and then we built all this up and um, and then we uh, stopped doing videos because I went off to do work and claire had work and but we're back, we're gonna try to do this. I have another project that I'm just about to start. Actually, tomorrow is really the first big day, but then I'll be doing that for a few weeks. Then I got to go off to another state and then we'll try to do the Sundays. As long as I'm in town, we'll try to do Sundays. But let's put up some of these folks and where they're coming from. Yes, did you star any? You want to?
Speaker 2:put them up. I starred a bunch, yeah, but I'll star some more, and it's good to see Catherine here. Thank you, catherine, clara. Thank you, clara. Thanks for your help. Okay, suzanne Keller. Hello, mark and Claire. Sue from Michigan, good to see you here. Silvo Sings, england. Awesome. Michelle from Long Island, new York. Good to see you. Bock Buddy, minnesota. Betsy Sue, just call me Betsy. Hello, betsy. Greetings from Myrtle Beach, south Carolina. Katrina Lunn hey, hey guys. Welcome back from Reading, uk. Hi, petrina, nice. Yes.
Speaker 1:Awesome Okay.
Speaker 2:And, of course, I saw we have apostate Alex here. Danielle Chamberlain, thanks for joining us. Let's see.
Speaker 1:Oh, Tracy, you got to do. You got to do that with the X. I only have it one way, so you got to go X-E-N-U.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:To get in because it's looking for that exact text to enter into win. So make sure you spell Xenu with an X.
Speaker 2:Yes, but once you've spelled it with an X, you only need to do one. Oh, and I saw Jacob Harkey is here. Good to see you, jacob, thanks, you only need to do one. Oh, and I saw Jacob Hark. He is here.
Speaker 1:Good to see you, Jacob. Thanks for joining us, matt Denny. Yay Kind of long.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's been a minute, hasn't it? Yeah, it is good to be back.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, there's apostate, alex.
Speaker 2:There we go. Hey at SP Crusader Leany, there we go, mark, missed you. Mark from Merrimack, New Hampshire. Awesome, nice, yes.
Speaker 1:Awesome guys. Well, today we wanted to do something a little different and this may or may not have been done on other channels, where they give you Scientology definitions or Scientology words and explain them to you. We just thought it would be fun to do this and we a lot of people that watch the channel, we assume have been here and watched tons of episodes and all that other stuff. But then we do have new people that every once in a while come in and it's always good for you guys just to get a refresher on the Scientology crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and for me, the reason I wanted to do this is because I've been reading the book Cultish. I've been reading all kinds of books, but Cultish really talks about some of the semantics and use of language to control people, and I think that that's a really important part to talk about, specifically in Scientology, because in my mind, a lot of the language and concepts program you to eventually do the work yourself in addition to them doing the work of keeping you in the cult, and it makes it very difficult to get out, and you and I have talked about when we first got out and we're in Kansas city, missouri we, cold Turkey, stopped using the language, not even realizing the power of it.
Speaker 1:You know I mean you have to. I would always give up you. I was like don't talk, like that Don't talk and that we would. I want to say for probably a year or so at least right, probably a year or so we didn't use any of that language and we knew it was good when we had to try to figure out what's the real world word for the same sort of thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and to me there's two pieces of this. Number one there's the control mechanisms that in your mind you start doing the work, inadvertently, of keeping yourself in, like in my case, I was taught that language before I was even taught the English language. I was taught Scientology as my first language really from the age of four. But also it's just so bizarre how there are so many words in Scientology that mean something completely different than what it means in the real world and it trips you up. And anyway, we've, we've talked about it many times but we figured you know, hey, let's, let's talk about this and really break it down and we can kind of talk about some of our experiences associated with those words as well, some of our experiences associated with those words as well. And for anyone watching, if there's words that you think we should add and talk about, let's do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll do whatever. We just picked a few for today. We're getting back into this where we didn't you know we didn't go. It wasn't some massive.
Speaker 2:It's not some deep dives that we're doing here, not a whole lot of planning, just fun conversation, as we usually do.
Speaker 1:And, to be honest, I just wanted a way to work in some stuff that I've been doing, and so Claire said, hey, why don't we do Scientology words? And I said, okay, maybe you do one and then I do one, and we'll go back and forth like that, and she was like perfect, so you ready.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, without further ado, we got the first word.
Speaker 2:Below definition and unauthorized leave or departure. Anyone who leaves Scientology without permission is considered blown, as many people are brought back after they escape or leave. Some who are blown for good cannot be gotten back. So this is obviously a good word to talk about, because your book is blown for good behind the iron curtain of Scientology. You started posting very initially as anonymously as blown for good, but anyone who's been in the world of Scientology that statement blown for good is really like okay, game on, you ain't going back, yeah.
Speaker 1:Blown in the C organization. Within Scientology, blow or blown is the same as going AWOL. Yes, but if you go, if you're a regular, you can blow as a regular Scientologist as well. If you leave a course, if you're doing a course or studying a course in Scientology and they say if you're blown from the course, that means you just stopped doing the course.
Speaker 2:Yep loan from the course. That means you just stopped doing the course, Yep. And also, so there's yeah, you're right, there's levels of unauthorized departure. But also let's talk about the fact that, okay, we always use the word escape because it is escape when you have below builds in several concepts in a Scientologist's mind Number one, that you have to have authorization to leave, you do not. And number two, it also builds into it, because of many different Hubbard concepts and policies and whatever that you study over and over and over again, that the only reason anyone ever leaves is because they've done bad things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they either have misunderstood words or they have overts and withholds which we're going to get to or both. We'll get to this later.
Speaker 2:And that is coercive control, completely, 100%, because it makes you think, oh, if you want to leave, you must have done bad things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, or you don't understand something.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that was your word. Okay, now let's do my word.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Xenu.
Speaker 2:Surprise, surprise.
Speaker 1:Xenu is an intergalactic alien. It was tasked with solving overpopulation and did so by bringing billions of aliens to Earth, dumped them into volcanoes, froze their spirits, which then attached themselves to humans. This is a very interesting one, because Scientologists themselves they deny that there is such thing as Xenu. If you just ask somebody in Scientology about Xenu, they'll say there's no such thing. We don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:But we should clarify they deny it, not because it's not true, but because they're not allowed.
Speaker 1:Well, there's actually two reasons they deny it. The main reason they deny it is because, as a Scientologist, you genuinely do not know what the person's talking about. Because in the levels of Scientology you don't learn about Xenu until what's called the operating Thetan levels and you don't learn about Xenu until operating Thetan level three. So a majority of Scientologists have not achieved that level, so they don't know about Xenu and it's a secret in Scientology. It's called confidential. These operating Phaeton levels, all of the operating Phaeton levels, from one all the way up to 15, are confidential and Scientologists are, even if they're at those levels. They're not allowed to discuss that with other Scientologists. So you have this thing where Scientologists themselves can't talk about Xenu. If somebody asks you about Xenu, you suppressive act in Scientology because you're discussing upper level confidential materials which Hubbard believed, if you weren't at that level, that learning about that level would cause you to get pneumonia and die.
Speaker 2:We need a music video of we can't talk about Xenu. We don't talk about Xenu. We don't talk about Xenu. We don't talk about zinu. We don't talk about zinu. We don't talk about zinu. We don't talk about zinu anyway.
Speaker 1:So that's zinu, and there's a nice little picture of him there as well okay.
Speaker 2:So let me just comment for a moment, because somebody wants to comment? Yeah, everybody stop hold the presses hold the press while it's on you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, you want it's like, it's on you. I want to talk.
Speaker 2:So I know that your whole thing is that you know Xenu and the body Thetans look like aliens, but do they actually look like aliens?
Speaker 1:Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 2:Can't they be normal people?
Speaker 1:Here's the thing, people, I mean it seems kind of judgmental.
Speaker 1:Listen, listen here. Okay, nobody's trying to call anybody out for being a little green. You know what I'm saying. But, to be honest, when Xenu, if we're going to go back to, I'll go back to the slide all these aliens into the volcanoes. Um, he had these giant machines that caught them as their souls left the volcanoes. And then, um, and then he, he gathered all those guys up and then he did some stuff, which we're going to talk about later in the video. But, um, the thing I wanted to say was that in scientology, we actually we got to do, then we have to do the next words, because it sort of explains all this Claire's jumping, claire's jumping the gun.
Speaker 2:I just didn't want to forget that, you know.
Speaker 1:No one's going to forget.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And let's put it back on Claire and let's give her the next word.
Speaker 2:All right, overts and withholds or OWs, and that's another piece of Scientology. Everything is an acronym Everything, and that's another piece of Scientology. Everything is an acronym, everything. Definition Acts that go and this is over it's acts that go against the mores of the group, anything that is determined to be against Scientology or against Scientology's rules, we could add withholds are acts that the person is worried that someone will find out about. Yeah, so they go together because, like, as an example, billy steals an apple and then he withholds from his mom that he stole an apple and he doesn't tell his mom. And you know, anyway, you get into the whole cycle. And again, this is important and ties in with the word blow or blown, because, as we talked about, a Scientologist believes that the only reason they would ever even consider leaving Scientology is because they've done bad things, which is, of course, a complete fallacy and gaslights you into staying in a dangerous cult.
Speaker 2:I made it with hold, with holds instead of with holds, right, yeah as we said, we did not do a whole lot of uh planning or review here sorry about to be fair, just claire.
Speaker 1:Didn't spell check my work. That's really all that happened, she would have fixed that in a second if she would have looked at it.
Speaker 1:Yep true okay, so that's a good one. And that kind of ties in to the next thing that we're going to do, which is implant An implant in Scientology. Basically, after Xenu froze the alien souls that tried to escape from the volcanoes, he put them all in front of a giant projection screens and showed them images of Christ, the man on the cross, angels, demons and other images. And this is the reason why Scientology believe. These implants are why people believe in all these different things and basically other religions or religions, period instead of Scientology. And Another thing sorry, I got't believe in any other religions except for Scientology as a belief system, or that you know any other gods or anything like that. And a lot of Scientologists don't know this yet because they haven't gotten to operating level, operating fate in level three, so that that sound accurate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I lost a little bit of the thought there, but I did want to say to implants are not limited to the upper levels. So, for example, one of the most commonly talked about implants is called the between lives implant, which Hubbard talks about, that when someone drops their body aka dies or passes away that they are, then they go to the between lives implant where they are reprogrammed, made to forget everything, and then they, then they go and pick up a new body.
Speaker 1:This is perfect. I'm going to put up your word because this ties into your word. So, this is the next word is Thetan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but by the way, also, jacob Harkey asked a really good question of are engrams and implants related? And so, yes, an implant is considered to be an engram. There are many different engrams, but yes, anyway, great question. So Thetan Thetan not pronounced Thetan. Uh, as Scientology's well-paid lawyers sometimes said in our depositions, which was terribly, just go, they are clueless. Come on now. Definition a person's immortal spiritual identity or soul. Thetans are believed to pass from one body to another. Yeah, so thetan is Scientology's word for soul.
Speaker 1:I'll take that off, because there was another typo in that one too.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, so many typos. So sorry guys so sorry.
Speaker 1:I just cranked them down like 10 minutes. Okay, look at this. It's got a little scientology words, it's got yes, they're all the same there was. It was a lot of work that went.
Speaker 2:A lot of five minutes worth of work that went into making yeah, and, to be fair, obviously I had no involvement in that work, so I will not take any credit nor discredit for missing your typos.
Speaker 1:Yeah, somebody said I like this, it's Satan with a lisp. That is exactly there you go, satan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and even that, like it seems intentional by Hubbard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know about that. I mean he was up to all kinds of nonsense. I don't know if he, if he was any method to a lot of the madness, okay so, but the thing I wanted to tie it in is that they believe it says at the end, where there's no typos Thetans are believed to pass from one body to another. So when they in Scientology they believe that when you die, your Thetan finds a new body and then is the soul of that new body.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and goes and picks up a new body.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think the reason that Hubbard then decided later on, when he made up body thetans or when he learned about body thetans, when he learned the truth about body thetans, that he already had the word Satan. So he was like, well, what are the ones that are attached to your body, that aren't your soul? That aren't your soul, but just these like hitchhiker souls.
Speaker 2:They're what? Do you call it Lemmings or?
Speaker 1:whatever they're body things. We like to call it space cooties, that's much. I think Tony Ortega might have been the one that coined the term or coined the phrase space cooties, and I like space cooties more than anything else. I thought, I thought that came from you, because Well, I say it all the time, but I think I got it from Tony, I don't remember, but space cooties is good, space Cooties is very Space Cooties. They're cooties, but they're from space.
Speaker 2:Right, and it ties in perfectly with the whole. Xenu is my homeboy theme that you love so much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I own the domain. By the way, xenu is my homeboy. I own that. I actually own that. I have all that. That's my IP. Xenu is my homeboy. I've been saying it for 20 years now. I probably won't stop. Okay, let's see what we got here. Thetan, we did Thetan. Okay, it's time for my one.
Speaker 1:Body Thetan. Yeah, there you go. So definition the disembodied spirit that is attached to a human body. Scientologists believe that all human bodies are inhabited by body things which can cause mental illness and bad emotions. So that is literally what you learn about on these upper levels and when you get is it OT seven, like there's all different levels of operating thing, levels where you're basically doing stuff with the body Thetans.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, from from three to seven is all is all about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so from operating level three, four, five, six and seven, all are dedicated to dealing with body Thetans.
Speaker 2:Hold on. I got to tell you this. Somebody said so. Recat 99 said said I misheard it as face cooties at first.
Speaker 1:That's amazing yeah, face cooties. That's what the makeup industry is very interested in get rid of face cooties. Okay, scientology they're working on the space I would prefer to remove my face cooties that's uh some people, depending on where you're from, that's what they consider a beard face cooties or boogers, you know whatever.
Speaker 2:There's other things that could mean okay, now I'm completely.
Speaker 1:I don't know what we were talking about, but it's claire's. It's time for claire's word okay, but anyway.
Speaker 2:Somebody was also commenting that our definitions here are, um, what would be called, in scientology, verbal tech, because, um, we're not quoting the exact words of hubbard. And there's a reason for that, because if we were to use the exact policies, we would go down so many rabbit holes we would get lost in just talking about crazy words, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, the thing is that in Scientologies they have dictionaries. They have actually they have multiple dictionaries. They have a technical dictionary, they have an administration dictionary, they have a lot of words that Hubbard made up and there's a lot of words that are actually. They have a. Completely. It's just the same regular English word, but it has a completely different definition, like almost the opposite definition, and I was trying to think of one of those and we didn't really cover it here today.
Speaker 1:But I'll just say what it is. It's called reasonable. I'm trying to think of one of those and we didn't really cover it here today, but I'll just say what it is. It's called reasonable. Reasonable in the real world just means like oh, that's based on reason. They just figure out a reason why there's a problem and then you don't have to solve the problem and then you just give in to not solving the problem and that's called being reasonable. So it's a. In Scientology it is a bad thing to be reasonable, and that is that makes that checks out, because they're not very reasonable at all Right.
Speaker 2:Ok, so you reminded me of another really, really important one to talk about, just like that, which is critical. Critical if you're for a Scientologist, if you're being critical, that's a bad thing and it means you have committed overts and withholds, so, and it means that. So if I say, hey, mark, you didn't do a good job on that, that's me being critical and it means I've done bad things to you, right?
Speaker 1:It means you have over it's against me. Yeah, exactly. Or withholds, yeah, Okay. So let's do Claire's next word.
Speaker 2:A-R-C. Oh, my God. Definition A-R-C is A for affinity, which in Scientology they do not use the word love or true love, or very rarely. The language is affinity replaces the word love, actually. Um, so a scientologist will be like oh I, I have a lot of affinity, I have a lot of affinity for you, honey.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, they do say that a lot, or they. You know I really had a lot of affinity for that building or for that car. When the car, you know I really had a lot of affinity for that car. I'm so sad that it got totaled. Yeah, anyway.
Speaker 2:And the next one is reality. The R is for reality, which is your agreement, like being able to agree or relate to somebody about something and then see, obviously, communication. That's self-explanatory and for the most part, except that there is just so much mechanics built into communication, which is, I think, what causes a lot of the um, I don't know. I would say Scientologist is constantly trying to control. They're not just having a conversation. It's like I have to ask you a question and it has to go up at the end and you have to give an answer to that.
Speaker 1:When you say up at the end, the end of the question is like do you like birds? Do birds fly.
Speaker 2:Do birds fly?
Speaker 1:It has to if you birds, do birds fly? Do birds fly? It has to. If you say, do birds fly, that's not a question. If you say do birds fly, that's a question.
Speaker 1:And this is something in Scientology. You spend hundreds, if not thousands, of hours having to perfect how you ask questions. When you ask a question, the person has to understand the question. Then they have to acknowledge that you said something. Then they have to answer the question, then you have to acknowledge that they answered it and all these things. So if you listen to TV or podcasts or interviews, that host will ask a question and then the person will answer it and then the host will just ask another question and in this drive Scientologists that are listening to these things it's like breaking their circuitry, like, oh my God, he never acknowledges that person, he never like they when he asks the question and then they answer the question.
Speaker 1:In the real world, the answer to the question is an acknowledgement that you said something and then, once you said that, they ask the next question. There's not like we don't, there's not a whole cluster over the mechanics and the significances of what you said than what I said. Then you have to acknowledge what I said, then I have to acknowledge what you said. It's inside. They really, in Scientology, attach a lot of significances. But the other thing that you got to read the rest of it.
Speaker 2:OK In Scientology, if you have all three of these things, it should result in understanding, or it actually will. The theory is that affinity, reality and communication all together add up to understanding, and that's why it's the ARC triangle is how it's depicted in Scientology. If one of these things has been damaged meaning affinity, reality, communication or lowered, this is considered an ARC break or upset, and I'm sure that people would. I've actually listened to Scientology books that like on Audible audible where the person reads it as arc break and it drives me nuts because it's just one of those things Like when you say Scientology book, what are you?
Speaker 2:talking about A book about Scientology.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, no, oh, when like oh, yeah, memoir. Yeah, we know that that's right, you're like dude.
Speaker 2:that's not authentic.
Speaker 1:It's not arc break.
Speaker 2:We won't say who's's that you'll have to listen to them.
Speaker 1:You have to listen to all. Yes, I mean there's hundreds, but there is one.
Speaker 2:There is a book which is by there's probably multiple, yeah, but they just, they just give it to somebody to read and then, yeah, it is what it is, yeah or it's somebody researching even um scientology, who it might not there, they were never in Scientology, but they're talking about the language of Scientology, but the point being that it's not arc break, it's ARC break and it doesn't actually matter because it's I know. I know, of course you can say arc.
Speaker 1:You can say just say whatever you want, baby. Okay, I think I got. Do we have one more? Oh, yeah, I got to do one more. Here we go. Cluster. I just actually said cluster. I just realized that was a Freudian slip Definition. When you have a large group of BTs or body thetans, this is considered a cluster. Bts or body Thetans this is considered a cluster. This could be hundreds of BTs or even thousands or tens of thousands of BTs all jammed up in one location. So when you get to the upper levels and this is something that this is kind of crazy actually, if you think about it, is that Tom Cruise was shooting all these alien movies like World of Worlds and what's another one he did a bunch of alien.
Speaker 2:He did like two or three.
Speaker 1:Edge of Tomorrow. There was one other one, world of Worlds, edge of Tomorrow, oblivion. Okay, he did three alien movies. Okay, now, this may or may not blow your mind, guys, but when he was shooting those movies he was on operating thetan level seven, and in operating thetan level seven, you're supposed to just be just be destroying and getting rid of clusters, lots of clusters of bts and bts, as many bts you. You contact them and then you evict them. Okay, we're talking about homeless aliens here. That's what we're talking about evicting. Um, these in scientology. They have illegal aliens and they're they're really aliens for real, from another planet. Um, anyway, the in scientology, um, you're getting rid of aliens and tom cruise is shooting all these movies getting rid of aliens. I just think that that's a crazy thing, that he's like workshopping ideas and paramount is the one paying for it. Um, so that's what a cluster is?
Speaker 2:um, I think that's all we have yeah, the only, the only other part that you didn't cover about the cluster oh yeah is so it's multiple body things, but the key is that they think they're one. Okay, they all, they all think they're one. That's why that's okay, whatever, just saying, just just mentioning I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure that really affects it that much as much as you think it does. Okay, fair enough, because it's all crazy nonsense. Now can you imagine, let's just pretend, let's just pretend, okay, and I like to be the devil's advocate.
Speaker 2:Okay, sure Not.
Speaker 1:Xenu's advocate. I'd like to be Xenu's advocate. Well, that's a new one, we'll call it that I'd like to be the Thetan's advocate. Now, let's pretend. Let's just pretend that there are 700 billion aliens that were on these planets, that these aliens got taken from so that they could depopulate or, like it was over, they had overcrowding. That's why Zini was tasked with getting rid of these Thetans from that other place and bringing them here, right, he was just getting a, he was just a garbage man.
Speaker 2:Doing his job.
Speaker 1:He was just like so judgmental again.
Speaker 1:Anyway, he was tasked, he did what he thought he was supposed to do, okay, but let's just say that that the aliens are like cruising around and they go like, oh, we've dumped. There should be like 700 billion aliens on earth and they should all be like living, living high on the hog, because that's where we left them. And then they find out these scientologists have been just evicting them full time for 50, 60 years. That's not going to be a good look for them. That's going to be. There's going to be problems. They're basically putting us all in risk.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:At risk with messing with these aliens. We should just be like the moral of the story is I think you should embrace the aliens If they're really there.
Speaker 2:yeah, I mean help you to to play advocate, z news advocate as well. If scientology truly recovers your whole track recall and every ability you've ever had on the whole track that's how it's hubbard says it like you're gonna, lifetime after lifetime after lifetime, every skill you've ever had, you'll be able to recover that, that, every language you've ever known. So couldn't one argue then that by evicting these body things, as you said, that they would just like build a spaceship and head on back?
Speaker 1:Catherine and many others. It was in the trillions. Actually, philip Jones, it was 76. This is from the actual operating phaeton, level three. This is what he get. This was what hubbard says 76 planets, 178 billion per planet, 13 trillion people. There are likely trillions of body things here. Okay, so there's trillions of body things. The scientologists are mucking them up, messing with them full time and now we're going to have to pay the price. Okay, when those aliens come back. Scientology auditing 1 million BTs per year might take several million years to audit out Exactly. Thank you, phil. Thank you, phil Jones.
Speaker 1:Scientology. If there's one thing, if you're a Scientologist and you're watching this and you're like there's no way, this is true, this is nonsense. These guys are making it up, it's not. You can just Google operating fate, level three, hubbard handwriting and it'll be in his writing.
Speaker 1:All the stuff that we've been talking about, and one of the things that I think is a great way to like kind of twist, uh, a view some scientologists understanding of scientology and what's going on is that their main mission is to clear the planet. That's the main, that's the overriding goal in Scientology, and the way you clear the planet is you get rid of a person's engrams. They're the things that are causing them to have mental problems. And then you find out that it's actually the body thetans which are doing all the bad work and making all this happen. Then you have to get rid of all your body thetans and Scientologists believe if they do that with everybody then they will clear the planet.
Speaker 1:Scientology can't even clear their own zip codes, much less the planet. So if you take the amount of people that are going clear in your zip code let's say it's 100 a year then you just all you have to do is just divide your the population of your zip code by a hundred. That's how many years it's going to take Scientology to clear your zip code, and no matter where you're a Scientologist in the world, that's in the hundreds or thousands of years that that's going to take. Now there's a kind of a hiccup that gets into this and Claire knows about this because we worked with David Miscavige for many years at the international headquarters and in I want to say in the when it was in the early two thousands when he canceled last lifetime clears.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, that was late nineties or early 2000, 2000. Yeah, 2001.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he basically said there's no such thing as a last lifetime clear.
Speaker 2:so somebody who went clear in their last life and then found a new body, they got more in grams somehow and, by the way, we should mention I mean it's all fine and dandy for david miscavige to cancel that, but there is uh, hubbard hcob see, this is where claire says, like david miscavige's bullshit is not the correct bullshit.
Speaker 1:Hubbard had some actual bullshit which was legit bullshit. So, regardless, I'm just saying like, currently they're not allowed to continue. So if you say, if you so my thing, that I was saying where you take the number of people they're clearing and then you divide that by the year, well, you can't do a cumulative, because every half, every 100, let's say 100 years, let's just say everybody's going to live to 100. Every 100 years you have to zero the board and start over, because you're constantly getting rid of people and then you got to start all over again. So you're never going to do, you're never going to clear the planet. That's the, that's the moral of the story.
Speaker 2:I don't think we did a very good job of explaining last lifetime clears, though it doesn't matter, nobody cares.
Speaker 1:Okay, if you got audited last life, the point being that Scientology, so what? Claire's going to tell us, no matter what we do.
Speaker 2:The first clear is quote unquote if there is which there isn't, but whatever, and I see your point, I just, I just, we can do it very easily. So if the first clears were made in 1950, when Hubbard, you know, wrote Dianetics, dianetics, the modern science of mental health, then it follows that some of those people have died now and come back in new bodies. So there was a practice where some people claimed oh, last lifetime I was a Scientologist and I reached the state of clear, and now I've come back. So I'm claiming my state of clear. I want my credit Right Anyhow, whatever, yeah, it is.
Speaker 1:whatever the amount of people, let's just we'll just say that as well, like I want to say, at the international headquarters, at one point there was almost a thousand people there on that property. How many last lifetime clears would you say were at that property? The top of all of scientology. You had OT8s and the highest trained Scientologists, and this was the creme de la creme of Scientology. How many last lifetime clears do you think were there at that property? A handful maybe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 50 to 100, maybe.
Speaker 1:It's not a lot of people in the overall scheme of things. So it's sort of if you had 100 people that were clear, maybe five of those people would have been last lifetime clears. So that it still holds that you're not more than you think. Scientology is not clear in anything. They can't even freaking clear it.
Speaker 1:Yeahi, yeah um okay, that's it on the words. Let's just, let's um, let's zip in and see how our tally is doing here on the xenu uh, so there's 52 entries. Should we do a giveaway now? What time is it?
Speaker 2:yeah, we'll do a giveaway now. Then we'll do answer a bunch of questions and comments. There have been some really good questions hopefully somebody's been starring. Yeah, no, I've been falling down on the job. I'll try and get back to that.
Speaker 1:Okay, we're going to do a draw here, folks. Okay. So, claire, you say when? To do it, claire, you're up on the screen, you're the big, you're the big boss.
Speaker 2:Oh yay, oh, let's do it like that, okay, or?
Speaker 1:this, let's do it like that. Or this, let's do it like that. There we go. Okay, are you ready? Yep, oh, I gotta push. Draw on the actual thing, not on the screen of the thing. Okay, here we go draw. There it is. See, I wrote, put Zeno in the comments, so I got entered in to win too.
Speaker 2:Didn't.
Speaker 1:I oh my goodness. That was.
Speaker 2:Shannon.
Speaker 1:Has Shannon won before? No, I don't think she ever wins.
Speaker 2:She has not.
Speaker 1:It always goes right by her name and then sometimes it hangs on her, like it did on that last one.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Congratulations, Shannon.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I will say Shannon, and I think that Shannon was the very first person to comment In the chat. Yes, she commented about the thumbnail I'm going to go to it now because of this, because I make sure that there you go, she commented, I think like an hour after I put up the thing yesterday.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I saw that. Anyway, congratulations.
Speaker 1:Shannon Finally.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Shannon and her husband are very good friends of ours that we met actually in San Antonio Texas. Yeah, we met them in San Antonio Texas and they knew who we were, but we didn't know who they were. Anyway, we're not going to say where we met, but we did meet at a a fun place.
Speaker 2:Anyway, congratulations, sharon we are shannon why don't I keep saying sharon, I don't know, um, sorry guys, I'm just like, I'm like I'm getting back into this again um congratulations, shannon um and um, we are gonna.
Speaker 1:She's going to call me like Brian. Oh, she said I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:She'll call you Mark, with a K.
Speaker 1:Shannon said I would like to donate my gift back to somebody.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:Awesome, we're going to do another draw then. There you go Can we do that, let me see how we do this. Does it say draw again? There it is, draw again, sure enough.
Speaker 2:Thanks see how we do this. Does it?
Speaker 1:say draw again. There it is, draw again. Sure enough, thanks, shannon. That's thank you, shannon. That's fair, that is very generous of you, okay we're gonna draw again sharon. That was very generous of you, sharon. Um, shannon, shannon, be sharon. Oh my goodness, it was a preeminent faux pas. I kept calling her Sharon because she was going to be Sharon, okay.
Speaker 2:Oh boy.
Speaker 1:We're going to draw again. Claire, claire's going to call it. Okay, you ready? Yep, go for it. Draw again. Here we go, oh my goodness Okay. Here we go, oh my goodness. Okay, here we go. It's doing it, it's doing it.
Speaker 2:Witness.
Speaker 1:Yay, there you go, congratulations Good to see you here.
Speaker 2:Witness, it has been a minute.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, so it's how many minutes are we in? Okay, good, we can do congratulations. You know the drill you have to.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, here we go. See, we're so rusty, yeah Witness. Please send me an email, claire, at blown for goodcom. Include the link to whatever you would like from either the blown for good merch store or the SP shop. Sp shop, we have Leah bobbleheads, mike bobbleheads, sp bracelets, davey elves, so any of the regular edition items from there. Mark's book, whatever you'd like. Uh, audio book, kindle, actually not Kindle. I don't know how to do that. Audio book.
Speaker 1:I know how to do Um anyway, you can go to Amazon and get a Kindle. People that do Kindles know where Kindles are.
Speaker 2:Well, I know, but for for giveaway, I mean there's no Kindle giveaways.
Speaker 1:Everybody has to pay for a Kindle.
Speaker 2:That was my point, Vanessa.
Speaker 1:Amazon doesn't like me giving free stuff away. Amazon wants their cut.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly, precisely Okay, All right so.
Speaker 1:You want to do some questions real quick and then we'll do one last giveaway right at the end.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so sorry, guys. Like we said, we're rusty here, so if you had a question, just put it back in the comments with question so I can mark it, cause I'm not very good at going back through the chat to mark those.
Speaker 2:Well, there's 17 stars I know, but I'm just saying there were some really good questions. So if you had a really good question that you wanted us to answer right now, put it in now and I'll keep an eye on it. And as we go through the questions we have marked, I'll mark these. Okay, there we go.
Speaker 1:Cool.
Speaker 2:Cool.
Speaker 1:Good, oh, look at that Shannon be sharing some more.
Speaker 2:Shannon on a sharing roll. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:It's Casey.
Speaker 2:For anyone new here, this has been a long standing.
Speaker 1:That's why her name is spelled that way.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly Cassie. It's so good to see you here. Thank you for being here, Thanks.
Speaker 1:Only in a cold do you need to get permission to leave. Yeah, exactly. Yes, that's from Phil Jones. Thank you, Phil. Oh, look, there you go. Question.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hold on. How long did it take you? Jennifer Arnold question how long did it take you guys to stop talking Scientologies? That's a great question. So, as we mentioned, we kind of did a force a force quit, if you will when we moved. So Mark escaped to Kansas City Missouri.
Speaker 1:I followed three weeks later and there was no Scientology in Kansas City Missouri, though I did randomly Do you remember the apartment we stayed at and randomly like Scientology promo started showing up at the person right across the hall from us and we were completely spooked by that, the person that lived across the hall was getting, like all these mailers that we knew we could see exactly what they were Like for the purification rundown and we were just like oh no, all the way to Kansas City and our next door neighbors get, yeah, junk man.
Speaker 2:but but like so literally, I went from being in the hole, trapped in the hole, escaping uh. So let's see, I escaped on monday and seven days later exactly, I started a job as a waitress at a pizza restaurant. Talk about worlds apart, like that's right, the pizza shop yeah, so kansas city.
Speaker 1:Kansas city lee summit pizza shop. Yeah, the pizza shop guys, some, uh, some love there, go and get some, go get a uh, and of course, pizza and a slice.
Speaker 2:We've said this so many times but we, so I went and got a job there. Mark was waiting for me outside and. I went out and I was like, yeah, I got the job. And he's like how much are they going to pay you? I said I don't know. I forgot to ask who cares. It's not a cult, yay, anyway. Oh, whoops, I promised to be marking questions and I completely forgot here.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm going to put up a Dr X.
Speaker 2:Okay, awesome Dr.
Speaker 1:X.
Speaker 2:Dr X, great to see you. Hey guys, flight delay equals BFG goodness. Yay. If you grew up in a Scientology household, do you actually talk like that, or do you use normal terms like the rest of us Was being born in help with these terms for the core supervisor post? So, oh, that's such a great question, such a good question. Such a great question. It's such a good question, such a good question.
Speaker 1:You use those all the time, all the time In your house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all the time. And so this is true for you, because your experience growing up in Scientology was very different to my experience, mainly because my mother joined the Sea Organization when I was four years old, at which point I became a cadet, so I was, you know. The explanation of the cadet arc that I've now realized best explains that experience is it's Lord of the Flies meets orphanage, meets Nazi youth. That's kind of the elements that really define what it's like to grow up in the cadet organization. But yes, whether or not you were in the C organization or just born into a Scientology family, those words are just your language. Like I said, that's the first language you learn.
Speaker 1:If you get in trouble. When you're a Scientology kid you have to go write up your OWs If you get in trouble. They have a thing in Scientology called the conditions. Conditions are states of existence and you have conditions above non-existence and then you have conditions below non-existence and those are conditions below non-existence and those are called lower conditions and those are like punishment. So if you I don't know if you if you're egging cop cars from the, from your apartment right next to the hollowade freeway, you got to do ows and lower conditions, yeah.
Speaker 2:So um the other the other word that's very commonly used. Uh, when you're a child growing up in, Scientology is out exchange.
Speaker 1:Yes, if your parents are giving you a place to live and food and everything, then you whatever let's just say that's 500 bucks worth of goods and services that your parents are doling out to you Then you need to be putting in $500 worth of chores and work to equal out your exchange. Otherwise you're out exchange. But yes, that is a very good question and yes, at least our upbringings in Scientology, we use the language full-time. And yes, if you're a kid, if you're a Scientologist and your kid in Claire's case, she was in the cadet org when she was young, so it was mandatory that she did Scientology courses. But in our family, in order to stay in good standing in the family, you also had to do Scientology courses. So if I wasn't on course at night after school, then I was considered out exchange and out ethics. If I wasn't on course at night after school, then I was considered out exchange and out ethics.
Speaker 1:So as a child I did lots of Scientology courses, and not I did the kids ones at first, but then after you do a few kids courses, they're like okay, kid time's over, you know what the score is. Now you're going to do the big boy courses and when I was 12, 11 or 12, I was doing regular Scientology courses that adults were doing. I was doing Scientology counseling that adults would do. So they didn't treat me any different than a regular Scientologist, I would say, starting when I was like 11 or 12. So when you get into the C organization after being indoctrinated your whole life, you're even as a 15 year old.
Speaker 1:That's when I joined the C organization, when I was 15 years old, 120 hours a week, seven days a week for 15 years basically. But when you join the C organization as a Scientology kid that went to Scientology schools and already did Scientology courses, I was light years ahead of any of the other people that were just joining the Sea Org, because I'd already spent years and years and years studying Scientology and knowing all the terminology and knowing how to do counseling and word clearing and all those things that you're supposed to learn. So yes, in Claire's case it would help. It helped her to get an easy position. I mean, when I was 15 years old I was the vice president of two different divisions in an international Scientology organization. I was the vice president for personnel, which in the Scientology world they have another name for it.
Speaker 2:It's called the HCO area secretary but again rabbit hole, we won't go down.
Speaker 1:But because because the organization I worked for was not a Scientology organization, it was a non, it was. It was basically they were calling it a secular or non-secular. It was the way they made it Secular.
Speaker 2:Yeah, secular means they don't use any of the Scientology words.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it was a secular division of Scientology where they basically kind of homogenize all the Scientologies into regular words. Anyway, I was the vice president for personnel and then I was the vice president for accounts or treasury, whatever they called it there. So, yeah, they didn't care about being a kid. Okay, there's another one for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, question Is there any sort of weird competition around what OT level or auditor level you all are or were, or who was the youngest to achieve clear or whatever? Did baby David's set a record? Clear by five, great question.
Speaker 1:It is a great question. Yes, and he did. Yeah, and he was known what was it as the youngest class four auditor or the youngest uh, the youngest auditor to do the St Hill special briefing course or something like that. He did, david Miscavige, when his dad, ron Miscavige, went to St Hill. I want to say in the seventies, right, the sixties, or the seventies, late sixties or the early seventies.
Speaker 2:I guess it must've yeah it must've been the sixties.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Anyway, it was the sixties or the seventies.
Speaker 2:I'm sure Janice Grady would know the answer to that question.
Speaker 1:It's probably in Ron's book too. Yeah, I'm sure it is.
Speaker 2:But also I love the story I think it was from Jesse Prince who told the story about how, even though David Miscavige, yes, was one of the youngest auditors and you're actually not supposed to brag about these things, helen, but it's absolutely a status thing 100% yes but then the actual story was that David Miscavige, as the auditor or counselor, yelled at the person he was auditing, which is a complete no. No, you're absolutely not supposed to do that. Yeah, whatever.
Speaker 1:He was also.
Speaker 2:I mean, as long as we're telling david miscavige stories oh, danielle chamberlain just said he was at school with me in the year uh, above his mid-70s. There you go there you go.
Speaker 1:Poof, there you go, thank you danielle it's cool with me in the year above, in the mid-70s. There you go. So I was right, it was in the 70s. Um, they used to call him enrique in theta. In theta is like a trouble, or when you're causing mis-emotion, and you're in turbulent theta, which is like life energy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they called him enrique in theta because he was like a little terror yeah, which, by the way, that's another word and theta, that is absolutely part of any Scientology household. If you're a child growing up in Scientology or in the cadet org, doesn't matter Like stop being entheta. Stop being entheta.
Speaker 1:Okay, there's one last question, and then we're going to do the last giveaway.
Speaker 2:Okay, awesome Question. Pakonopluk Question when you left, how did you know which words were Scientology words?
Speaker 1:My answer to that is I'm still figuring that out in some cases, I'm not figuring it out, the ones people don't say those are the Scientology ones Of course that's Mark.
Speaker 2:Can you tell that Mark's personality in Scientology was rebel and mine was rule follower? And now we're just figuring things out.
Speaker 1:It was like yeah, you know, you know which ones I mean you. For the most part, yeah, and also when you work in Scientology, you're not, you're not at a business meeting going, you guys have OWs and and we're going to find out where the the crazy body, things are.
Speaker 1:And you're at no, when you're in a regular world, you switch off the Scientologies and sometimes and that is a good point sometimes Scientologists don't switch that off and they say those words like outreality or viewpoint is another thing that they say a lot in Scientology Instead of point of view, they say viewpoint. They say a lot in Scientology instead of point of view, they say viewpoint. There's a few words that if you hear somebody say if you, if they say one or two of these words and you're just watching them in a video or something they're talking to, you go like, oh, this person might be a Cylon and like when? If I hear somebody say, um, affinity, if I hear somebody say affinity. If I hear somebody say Out.
Speaker 2:Ethics is a dead giveaway.
Speaker 1:Ethics or get your ethics in, like Tom Cruise said.
Speaker 2:Get your manners in, even the use of the word in.
Speaker 1:Yes, get your manners in, that's right. That's a telltale In and out are.
Speaker 2:Those are very specifically used in Scientology in a way that nobody uses those that way in the outside world yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1:So okay, um, great to see you, bfg.
Speaker 2:You gave up the great work just wanted to say thank you, cannonball, appreciate you being here yeah, and thank you for um, everybody who did super chats.
Speaker 1:We're not. We don't. I mean, if you want to support the channel, that's one way to do it, and if you want, we'll put up the before we do this last giveaway, we'll put up the last of the stuff. If you want to get any other BFG merch, that's the best way to support the channel is to get merch, or the bobbleheads. The bobbleheads and the SP dolls and all that go to support the Aftermath Foundation, and that's where you get a fake Navy Davy dolls. And do we have one of those guys here?
Speaker 2:You got a whole bunch of them back there at the rocket here which which, speaking of the aftermath, we made the big announcement this past week that we changed the name to the Michael J Rinder aftermath foundation. For anyone watching here, we would really appreciate if you would go to the website Rinder Aftermath Foundation. For anyone watching here, we would really appreciate if you would go to the website sign up for the newsletter. There'll be news newsletters coming out starting this year and in addition to that, we do have a YouTube channel for the Michael J Rinder Aftermath Foundation. We would love to get the subscriber count there up past 10,000, which will mean that we can, on occasion, do YouTube fundraisers through that channel, and this channel would support that. So there you have it, but we can do. We'll have lots of foundation news coming soon and we'll do a dedicated talk about updates there and what's been going on, because there's a lot going on. So there you have it.
Speaker 1:Nice, I'm putting up all the comments. There's some nice comments about that, so I'm putting those up. Cool, cool, cool, danielle.
Speaker 2:Chamberlain Yep. Thank you, and Danielle, I'm very sorry for your loss as well, by the way. Yes, rest in peace, nev. Wonderful tribute to Mike, yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Clara.
Speaker 1:We're going to do the last. There you go, perfect, okay, yes, one last giveaway. We're going to do one more draw. Let's see, here we go. You ready? Tell me when.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Go for it, click it. Oh, there it is, it's clicking.
Speaker 2:I was clicking my clicking.
Speaker 1:Clicking Okay, here we go. Oh stinky cat Almost.
Speaker 2:Oh M All right, wow, descriptive yeah.
Speaker 1:So M Good job, m Congratulations M.
Speaker 2:Congratulations M, congratulations M, congratulations M. Please send me an email with a link to what you would like. Yeah there you have it.
Speaker 1:Awesome guys. Well, um, we did it. We got another one in the books we're going to get. Like I said, we're going to try to uh, we'll try to do these more often.
Speaker 2:I whenever I say that we go for like a month and we don't do one, I know we were gonna do one last week. We were. It was just too much. It was really. We've been exhausted, burning both ends of the stick as they say, both ends of the candle.
Speaker 1:We were burning the candle. If you were burning a stick, it would just be smoky oh my gosh, and yet, and anyway cool yeah, cool, cool, we's all good. We did this one. Yeah, okay, guys, thanks a lot. Did I do all the things? I did all the things.
Speaker 2:I think we did all the things.
Speaker 1:If we didn't thank you for staying to the very end, like and subscribe and all that happy hoo-ha. And then you can listen to this video where I'm going to tell you a lot of other things you can do. Oh, let me say one other thing that I've been wanting to say I'm glad.
Speaker 2:I remembered. So we have been um it because we haven't been doing these lately. We've been putting up some older episodes on um on the podcast platforms. Um, if, uh, we've received a lot of messages through the podcast platforms, we have no way to respond to those. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I'll say this in the podcast for those of you who listen to the podcast, which there's a lot of people that download the podcast I think we're up to, I think, eight 9,000 downloads a week or something like that, which is pretty good for a podcast. But we went back. We had a lot of requests to put old episodes that we did with Mike Rinder and any old Q and A's that we did. So we started for some reason, whenever we did videos on YouTube, all of them would go onto the podcast. For some reason we didn't do Q and A's. I don't know why, but for some reason, maybe because it was just so many of them or I don't remember the reason, but whatever the reason, we didn't have the Q and A's up there and a lot of people requested it.
Speaker 1:So we went back to the very beginning of the Q&As and we just started releasing them and I think, out of 50 or 60 Q&A episodes, I think I want to say we're in the 30s or something like that high 20s or 30s, so we're going to keep doing that. But there's a lot of old Mike Rinder Q&As that are on there and so people were hearing them newly and um, and that's why? Just because we were requested. At the very top of the podcast description it says when that episode originally aired. If you're, if you want to go back and watch the actual video, you can do that on our channel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but my point being that if you um have a question and want to um want us to respond to it, best way is to reach out to us through the Blown for Good website or clara at blownforgoodcom. Anyway, Clara says if you want to send a video about Mike's impact on you, you can view the tribute to Mike to learn how Perfect Thank you, Clara.
Speaker 1:We'll put these links in the description as well, yes, thank you, clara. We'll put these links in the description as well. Yes, okay, that was it. Are we good now?
Speaker 2:Yes, we're good now. Sorry, I just wanted to get that in because it was very frustrating to me that we were getting messages through the podcast and couldn't respond and people were like is this how to reach you?
Speaker 1:It says there was a cell number on the podcast.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:I don't think so that wasn't us?
Speaker 2:I don't think so. Okay, I didn't put my cell number in there, me neither, oh boy, anyway if you go to the podcast.
Speaker 1:I think what it does is it says send a message or text a message and you can just click it and it'll send us a message. We do see those messages. We just can't respond we just don't have a way to respond, because it would, we can pin. I think we can pin your question somewhere, but it's it's a new feature. That's not totally flushed no, we.
Speaker 2:We even messaged buzzsprout and we said hey, how do we respond to these messages? And they're like you, don't?
Speaker 1:yeah, apostate. Alex says it was z news, so he might have the technology to put that in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, anyway, he's expecting.
Speaker 1:Okay, we did. We went three minutes over.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I'm a stickler for time People. People say, if anything over an hour, it's just like they're already tuned out.
Speaker 2:Yep, there you go I don't know.
Speaker 1:Sorry if we tuned you out bye thanks for watching.
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