Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed
Marc Headley worked at Scientology’s secret desert compound, which houses all Scientology management, for 15 years. The 500-acre property is located deep in the California desert. The local townspeople were told lectures and films were made there. But is that all that was happening? It is the location of a multi-million dollar home for L. Ron Hubbard, built two decades after his death. It is the home of Scientology’s current leader, David Miscavige. So what really happens at the Int Base? Are the stories on the internet true? How does Scientology conduct management of its day-to-day operations? Could stories of armed guards, weapons, staff beatings, and razor wire fences be true? If so, how could a facility like this exist in modern-day America? Hundreds of staff tried to escape over the years. Some succeeded but were never seen or heard of again, and most failed. Why were people kept here? What really went on at the headquarters of Scientology? This is the story of what happened behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology.
Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed
Finding Little Davy: The Hunt for Scientology's Leader - Scientology Q&A #33
Marc and Claire Headley reunite on their channel to discuss recent developments in Scientology, including newly discovered spy files and their ongoing efforts to expose the organization's practices.
• Over 40,000 pages of Scientology's internal spy files have been uncovered, revealing extensive surveillance operations
• Despite Scientology's claims that abusive practices ended years ago, recent escapees report identical tactics still being used
• Marc and Claire's appearance on Australia's 60 Minutes reached 1.6 million viewers, helping spread awareness about Scientology
• Announcement of "Little Davy Doll" fundraiser to benefit the Aftermath Foundation supporting former members
• Updates on Serge's recovery and his reconnection with former Sea Org members from his childhood
• Explanation of how parenthood has given ex-members new perspective on their own abnormal Scientology upbringing
• Discussion of how humor and community support have been crucial to healing from Scientology experiences
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hey guys, welcome back to the channel. Mark hedley here. Uh, let me see if I could find out where the there. She is sorry we're late guys. I was doing another channel show and we went a little over and I had to get a whole new camera and I had to get a whole new setup and it was like a whole big rigmarole. Anyway, here we are, we're live. Say hi, claire.
Speaker 2:Hey, hey, hey everybody, Thank you for your patience.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, Thank you for your patience. You know a lot of people have been asking where I've been and I'm just going to read this note real quick. It says everything is fine, I am OK. I have not been locked up in a cage by my wife. Everything is perfectly OK and everything is wonderful in my life. They told me to say that at the battered husband's shelter. Stop it, can people hear me?
Speaker 2:Yes, they can hear you Somebody said, is Mark's microphone on?
Speaker 1:Oh my God.
Speaker 2:Blink twice if you need to be rescued.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I have been working. Folks I have had I've had, you know, scientology has been doing everything they can to make it so that I can't do my job and they're trying to ruin my, my business life and I don't know if I'm just slaying it recently or if I've been slaying it all along, but I am not uh recently, or if I've been slaying it all along but I am not. Um, whatever work they're taking away, I'm getting more work from other places. So, um, so, yeah, I'm trying to do, I'm trying to do that and uh, and claire's been very busy, uh, on the channel and uh, doing videos with other channels and yeah, didn't Scientology stories and where is Shelly? So she's been doing just just great and and there's been a lot of content coming out from her. But, yeah, I am going to get back into the groove of things again.
Speaker 2:And I'm not you, honey. I've gotten so many questions. They're like is Mark okay?
Speaker 1:I'm like, yes, he's fine, he's not even here, he's not doing lives with Joe or Billy Bob, or even me, for that matter. Yeah, no, I, I, um, I haven't been doing any lives with anybody, except for the other channel that I was just doing a live with, but it wasn't a live, actually, it was a. It was a like a pre recorded video that they're going to edit up, yep. But but yeah, we have so many things to talk about, guys, I didn't. I was going to make a whole bunch of notes, and you know I usually try to make some notes, but at the end of the day, we're just going to talk about whatever I'm going to talk about. You know how it is.
Speaker 1:Um, I did have to get a, um, a different camera, because the person that I was doing a show with, um, my iPhone, wouldn't work on their platform. So this is the first time I'm actually using this camera for a video on our channel. So if you like it, let me know, but otherwise I'm probably going to switch back to my other camera, because I like that camera and just the way I had this set up. I like it better.
Speaker 2:But I have to. My vote is the other camera. You look, I mean you look great, but you look more pixelated. I do Not hugely, but I can see a difference.
Speaker 1:Okay, well.
Speaker 2:I don't know about anybody else, that's what I see.
Speaker 1:Okay, folks. Well, you heard it here. Claire's giving me the thumbs down for this camera, but anyway, it's all good, I don't care, I think I look. You know I look like me. You know it's not much you can do with this mug of mine, but what was I going to say? There's so much stuff happening. I did put a thing in the thumbnail about like stuff that's coming up with Scientology. There is so much stuff happening right now behind the scenes and I'm trying to think of what, like just even with these spy files, the spy files, scientology has about 40,000 pages of documents which have, which are getting to see the light of day, and the more people that go through these documents, the more things we find that are just in sane.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and let's not forget, this is the 40,000 that we have access to. There are hundreds of thousands that they have.
Speaker 1:Totally yeah, it's. It's it's sort of um that they have. Totally yeah, it's. It's, it's sort of um. It's sort of ridiculous about how much stuff that they put in writing to each other, that they talk about, that they should not be putting in writing to each other and talking about. And it's so funny to me that at the international headquarters we would have to do the shredding every single day and no matter where you worked. If there was a piece of paper that had writings or communications on and you wrote it to somebody and then they wrote you something back, you would have to. When it was all done, you would have to shred it, even if it was just like hey, I need a pair of contacts, my contacts are worn out, I need a new pair. Please approve $40 so I can get a month supply of contacts. If you got that back and it was approved and you ended up getting your contacts, you would have to shred that document because nobody needs to know that you're trying to get your contacts.
Speaker 2:Nor that you had to ask for approval to get your contacts. Yeah, somebody said my lighting is terrible and that you got approval.
Speaker 1:Somebody said my lighting is terrible. Oh no, yep, see, that's what I'm telling you. This camera it's got different color temps and anyway, I don't care about it. I'm not that excited about the lighting I had in the first place, but we're going to stick it out, folks. We're going to stick it out.
Speaker 2:All right, you're welcome to jump out for two minutes. I can shout out to everybody.
Speaker 1:I'm good.
Speaker 2:Where they came from. Okay, it's all good. Yep.
Speaker 1:Thank you, anada.
Speaker 2:I appreciate it I appreciate it, thanks, thank.
Speaker 1:Welcome back to you too, anata, anata and. Anata, yeah, shout out to Casey in the house. Were we 12 minutes late? No, we weren't 12. It was 5 0 5. Come on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were. We were having a good laugh in the chat about how you had to find your password and you know, because it had been so long since you logged in, that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 1:No, I, literally I was going to I had done the other video. I actually have to go back and finish that video with that other channel. Because I said, hey, I got to do a live. But then she was like, okay, well, when you're done we'll go back. And so then I thought, well, if I switch back over to my other camera, then I'm going to have to switch back. And then so I was like you know what? I'm just going to do with this camera and leave everything the way it is, okay, anyway. Yeah, see, people are saying he was way too base, heavy and this is better. You know, I haven't changed my audio setup at all. It's, that's been pretty good, but I do have. I think my voice does have a little bit more bass.
Speaker 2:It does. Yep, I can hear that.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I'm sorry guys about the camera. I'll put the other camera back. Next time we do a video It'll have that camera. How about that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll be good. We're going to? We are. We agreed we're going to do a 40K subscriber count celebration, which is coming up shortly. What do you mean? What are we at right now? We're not there yet.
Speaker 1:Well, I know, but we could get there in this thing, okay.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying we're at 39,502.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, I'm going to get my little counter. There's a way I can put the counter up here.
Speaker 2:By the way, look what I got from Ms Pillow.
Speaker 1:Oh, Quacker Liquor.
Speaker 2:I think it's pretty funny.
Speaker 1:I don't know how to. Oh, here it is, this is it. There's a way to. Oh, yeah, see, live count 39,500, 500 more subscribers and we hit 40,000. Yeah, you know I don't want to do the longest live in the world, but if you're not a subscriber yet, you could put us over the top. We're going to give, we're going to do some giveaways tonight and we'll do, if we do a 40, I'll tell you what. If we do a 40,000, well, I'll give away five. I'll give away five books If we hit 40 K or five or five things from the merch store.
Speaker 1:We have a lot of merch. You know, people have been sending pictures and we got to do this too. And at the Blown for Good website, if you want to send us a picture, do they have it set up? I'm going to say it's set up and hopefully those pictures, we get those pictures. Yep, it's set up. But if you go to blownforgoodcom and you're and you've already got some merch from us and you want more merch, send us a picture with the merch that you do have and we'll pick. We'll pick some of the best pictures and we'll send you some more merch that you don't have. We've got, uh, we've got those hail. Zinu mugs, we've got um, we've got. Zinu is my homeboy.
Speaker 2:We even added some Claire bear merch.
Speaker 1:We got Claire Bear mugs. We got Xenu is my homeboy. We got Xenu is my homeboy sweatshirts, t-shirts, tank tops, hats, mouse pads. We got a lot of merch, but people have been sending in pictures of them with either a bobblehead or their SP bracelet or their Xeno is my homeboy sweatshirt at Scientology organizations, which I think is hilarious. I mean, I don't want you to harass them, but a picture ain't? You know that ain't no sweat off anybody's back Come on no absolutely.
Speaker 1:But yeah, if you've got merch and you've got a good picture of you with the merch, then send us a picture, go to blownforgoodcom, I think it's. Can you tell them what the? We'll put a link in the description for the Blown for Good site, but I think it's contact us or you know whatever you think would be the place where you'd send us something and that's where it is and you can attach an image and you can. You can shoot it right to me. Um and um, yeah, sub it up. We got, uh, we're at five 12 already. See, some of you did something because it's now the numbers difference 39, five, 12. Um, so I'll just keep that over here. I just got a little thing that says what that is.
Speaker 2:So I'm just gonna you know, kind of keeping a little peek at that. So yeah, I did. I just checked the site and it is contact us. It has the option for you to add your name, your email and attach files, so to submit fan art or file. It has a spot where you can include that. So, um, and the whole intention of that was for shoops and bobblehead picks and merch picks and all of that fun stuff.
Speaker 1:Nice, yeah, we, um, we used to do a thing, um, where we would do these shoops every week. We just people would send us, um Photoshopped documents that were hilarious and um. But then we started getting into the spy files and we started getting into where Shelley and Scientology stories and I just thought it was sort of like it was fun to do the shoops. But if we've got real stuff to talk about, we're going to talk about the real stuff and um, although I love having a good time while talking about real stuff. So if you've got shoops or you've got bobblehead pics or you've got funny uh pics, then um, then send them and we'll show them. How about that? We're not going to make, we probably won't make a big production out of it, but you know, if there's some good stuff, then you know we'll show them.
Speaker 2:My vote is that when we do the 40K celebration that we should, we can pop up some of the most popular ones that won. Like we can pop up some of the most popular ones that won, Like we can do a best of the best, like people can vote on the best of all the winners, or something like that.
Speaker 1:When are we supposed to do this 40,000 celebration?
Speaker 2:Whenever we hit 40,000.
Speaker 1:Oh, so we're not going to do it and try to get to 40K. I thought we were going to like go, like, let's get 40 K. I'll tell you what if we don't have 40 K. I'll tell you this If we get 40 K, we'll do a video on Sunday. Can we do a video on Sunday? Yeah, can I have permission to do a video on Sunday.
Speaker 2:Stop it, I've been trained.
Speaker 1:I've been trained.
Speaker 2:since you guys haven't seen me, oh my gosh, I don't want to get any.
Speaker 1:I don't want to get any. How many?
Speaker 2:Do I need to come down there and talk to you?
Speaker 1:Lashings. Yeah, I don't want to get any more lashings. Stop it. If we do get to 40K, we'll do a video on Sunday, and if we get close to 40K, we'll do a video on Sunday and try to get to 40K. How about that? Um but um, because we have so many, we do have you have to leave again on Tuesday.
Speaker 2:Yes, I've got another trip following week, so after that we'll be back on a regular viewing schedule and people won't have to be concerned for your wellbeing any longer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I know the people that are watching lives. Those are probably the most likely people that are subscribed, because they got a notice that we're going to do a live, so now they're here, Um, but uh, yeah, I got to go back in the cage again, guys. So you got to get me the. Uh, you got to get me those subs. Man, I'm not gonna I get let out based on subs. Okay, and we. That's the only reason we got out now because we're almost to 40K. So, anyway, you need to ask for each of us touring a friend to sub. Yeah, ask a friend to sub.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I'm reading the lives while doing the video, which I normally don't do because I have notes. And because I don't have notes, I'm doing that. Surge, people are saying here I'm going to put it up. How about that? By the way, how's Surge doing? Surge is doing great, guys.
Speaker 1:I want to tell you that Surge reads the comments of the videos. I talked to him the other day and he's been reading the comments. So the people that are like Surge good going, great for you, all that good stuff he's reading that and he is thrilled that people are loving the story. And I said you know other people. There's some other people that aren't getting too much love in the comments, but that's not you serge um, but um, he, he, he. He really does like the reading about and seeing people like it and he's also people that went to the people that were in the cadet organization when he was a kid. He was in this thing called the CEO or the cadet estates organization, so sort of like, where they used to babysit Sea Org members, kids and Scientology. It was a Sea Org unit that was in charge of the kids and he's talked to a bunch of people that were there, a bunch of people that were in the Sea Org with him that are now out of Scientology or out of the Sea Organization. So he has had.
Speaker 2:I mean I want to say he had, like he maybe had four people in his four or five people in his contact list- and he's got about 15 or 20 now I think, just based on all the people that he talked, that he told me that he's talking to, yeah, and he even was able to reconnect or not even reconnect connect with a half sister he didn't even know he had. He was absolutely thrilled. Um, he, he, uh, somebody sent in pillowcases that were amusement theme, amusement park theme. He got those today and he was like, oh my gosh, I love them. Somebody made him a quilt and I sent him the picture and he was like, oh my gosh, I'm so excited, I love it. Anyway, it's awesome. And then, um, a number of people gave him donations through our, um, the blown for good merch store, so we got those to him. Anyway, he, he really appreciates all the support and he is amazing.
Speaker 1:And whoever sent that button? Somebody sent in a um, a thing for people that have hooks to be able to use button button-up shirts to do zip-ups, zippers oh no, it's for buttons oh, it is, oh okay, buttons okay anyway, um, so we sent him that. He was really excited.
Speaker 2:I told him about that um, they, they even sent the youtube video of how to use it.
Speaker 1:We said that to him, yeah yes, obviously one of us did not watch it Um not saying who yeah, her initials rhyme with hair.
Speaker 2:Oh funny.
Speaker 1:Um, anyway, I, that's a joke, her initials rhyme with hair Bedley. Um, anyway, um, so, yes, so Serge is doing amazing and yes, if you did send in donations via the merch store or the blown for good side, or however you did it, we he still trying to figure out if there's another way we can do, um, something where we could, you know, um, get him additional, you know, spending money and stuff like that. For now, that's how we're doing it, but, um, we don't want him to lose his benefits or any of his stuff.
Speaker 1:So, um, we're trying to do that just very carefully so that he doesn't uh, he doesn't risk his um, his, he doesn't risk the resources that he does have access to now. Yep, and then we have the spy files. We're going to start doing some more spy files on our end. I've been working with a lot of people that are covering those now and we've just basically been. I've been working on trying to get as many files to as many other people as possible so that it's not just me doing a video on YouTube every week about one file, so that we can sort of have like a massive impact and I'll just say an international, widespread impact. I'll just leave it at that. But these files are making their ways around a lot of places, and that was another thing that we realized is that we thought that there was just illegal activities happening in the United States, and then, when we started looking through the files, we started finding out a lot of other foreign governments would like to see some of these documents and what Scientology is doing abroad, and so, yeah, so it's more important trying to figure out how to say this without not coming. It's just more important that we do what's good to for the cause of getting the information out and exposing Scientology, as opposed to just for our channel. So I've been.
Speaker 1:I've been trying to resist the urge to do as many videos as possible and work on these other things and and that's sort of starting to pay off now. It's just taken a few more months than I thought it would take and but, but it's really. It's really exciting, guys, and we have so much stuff in the works that are just going to um, you know it's just going to start um, snowballing in terms of, um, the impact, and you know we did this um, australian, uh 60 minutes uh show and that thing. I don't know Can you pull that up, claire? I don't know how many views that's up to, but the last time I looked, well, let's just see what it's at now, cause I don't want to say it was a blah, blah, blah and it's got, like, you know, eight more views than when I saw it a week ago. But I'm trying to, I'm trying to pump up that Um, but, um, I'm trying to, uh, I'm trying to pump up that, uh, that video.
Speaker 2:It says 1.6 million views two weeks ago.
Speaker 1:Exactly so. Last time I looked at it it was about a million, so it's about it's 1.6. Yeah, okay, now that to me, um, it's great that we do videos on our channel and they're unedited and they're on sort of filtered and we just get to say whatever we want. But a show like that that's going to get a good message out and it's going to reach 1.6 million people, that's something I'm going to spend some time doing. And you know, I did get some weird comments from some people, like there was this certain wording of the way they said certain things. Or we didn't talk about this, or we didn't talk about that, or we didn't talk about the Jane Doe's more. We didn't edit the show, guys. We didn't write it, we didn't edit it, we didn't produce it. They interviewed us and, luckily, a few minutes of what we had to say made it into the show and they aired it.
Speaker 2:We didn't even know who else was going to be on the show until it aired Exactly.
Speaker 1:So all the haters out there that are like you didn't do this, you didn't do that, it wasn't my show, okay, I agreed to appear on it because I thought they might you know, they might use some of the stuff that we had to say and they did, and I think it turned out great. So, anyway, had to say, and they did, and I think it turned out great. So, um, anyway. So I'm just saying that because I was sort of like you know, we do what we do, we have lives, we have jobs, we do other things, and then we spend a certain amount of time, um, exposing scientology. That's our side gig. Okay, if you want to say that's what we do as a hobby, okay, it's not my job. So when I do it, and I do like I think we slayed it, okay, we both got to be on it, we both got to be together and they shot us in the same room with the same cameras.
Speaker 2:Which had only ever happened before once on the aftermath show, I think, or on two episodes of the Aftermath where we were actually even in the same room. We've filmed a number of times together.
Speaker 1:They flew a crew to Colorado. We didn't have to go anywhere. And then, and we did the show, it turned out great and it's 1.6 million people saw it. And then somebody writes me saying you guys, never you didn't talk about the Jane Does Hate to break it to you. We did. They didn't include that.
Speaker 1:Ok, I didn't edit it and I didn't write it anyway, but it was so weird to me that we did all that. And then that's the thing. I'm like those are the, those are the fans that are supposedly or or friends or whatever. That said that and I was sort of like I'm, I'm like, okay, I don't know, I get, I give up, you know. And so, um, yeah, 60 minutes, australia, thank you very much. It was a great program, um, and anybody who's got any complaints right to them? Um, anyway, so, so that happened. And what else did we do? Claire's been on fire on these other channels. There's a whole bunch of channels that have been writing to us, and when we had like 5,000 subscribers or 8,000 or whatever, I was just like, hey, we need to work on our channel. And then, when some of these other channels started writing to us, when we got up into the 30,000 or whatever. It's like. You know what let's, let's see what these guys let's go on their channel. So, anyway, it's all good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's been fun. I've had some really interesting conversations with a lot of people. The two interviews I did with Shalee Sola from Cults to Consciousness aired this week. That was just amazing conversation and it's really I think it's. We're growing this massive network that is just gaining momentum and the beauty and power of this is quite unlike anything we've seen in the 18 years that we've been aggressively attacked by Scientology and OSA, so it's really something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we used to. I mean, we used to do like a video on Karen Delacarriere's channel back in the early days when she was like the only person her and who was it? Mark Bunker had a channel, tori Chrisman had a channel and we used to do, we used to do their shows. We used to do shows with those guys. I do I sit down and talk to Jeff Augustine for two hours, or you know we do that stuff and it was sort of like you know we're just trying to get the word out and we had a channel that whole time. We've had a channel. Whole time we've had a channel. We've had a I think the blown for good channel has been around since like 2008 I want to say yeah, I don't even know.
Speaker 1:I don't even know how long I've had the channel. I want to say it's 2008 yeah uh, at least 2009, when the book came out, um and um, and we were just sort of like, whatever you know, you know. And now what's her name? Jenna Jenna Miscavige.
Speaker 2:I know I, just I want to say it has like 7,000 subscribers. No, no, she's up to like 8,500. It's ridiculous. She put it up on August 17th, so it was like a week ago, and I was like she has no content. She has no content. It she has no content. She has no content.
Speaker 1:It's amazing, she has 8,000 subscribers, so to all the almost 1,300 people here.
Speaker 2:Don't forget to subscribe to Jenna too. Yeah, oh, here's Goldie Perfect Look.
Speaker 1:Goldie, jenna Miscavige, a channel with zero content, gained 8.25. So what is that? 8,250 subscribers in less than 24 hours, okay, um, so if you haven't if you haven't subscribed to our channel, subscribe. If you have subscribed to our channel, go subscribe to Jenna Miscavige's channel. She might even come out with a video one of these days and you might even get to watch it. Um, but um, we it's so funny because a lot of the people. We it's so funny because a lot of the people that, when we escaped Claire, a lot of the people that we used to talk to and that we were like you need to do, you should totally write a book, you should totally write a book.
Speaker 1:And they're like oh, I could never do that.
Speaker 2:And like Ron senior was a perfect example of that.
Speaker 1:Oh, I was talking to Ron senior for so long and then when he finally was like I'm going to do it, I was like what are you going to do? He's like I'm going to write a book. I'm like not another one of these stupid stories. He's like no, no, no, I'm going to write a book about my time in Scientology. I was like, okay, good, he wrote that book that I told him not to make the title of it, whatever it was. What did he call the book? Hideouts.
Speaker 2:Hideouts. Oh, not the final title. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no the title of that little storybook that he did.
Speaker 1:He just wrote a little. I'm not going to say the title. You have to look it up on Amazon. It's Ron Miscavige's first book. The video will get demonetized if even I say the title of that book Um but um. But he did it and I told everybody that that book. People are going to think that's about David Miscavige that book, and he wouldn't. He didn't believe me, but anyway, um. But then he ended up writing his book, um, and I was like you know what he? He really did a good job with his book and, um, it got a lot of exposure. He did a ton of media, um, but then Jenna did. Jenna did a book years before his and her book. I think her book might still be in the top 10, uh, books on Amazon on Scientology Uh, my book used to be in the top 10, um, the top 10 when we were selling it on Amazon. But I think the only thing we sell on Amazon really these days is the Kindle and the audiobook.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we shut down the account. And speaking of books, by the way, Liz Gale just put out her new book. It's now available on Amazon.
Speaker 1:I was listening to her. She was doing a video. She was actually doing a live video today. She made such a great point in that video about perspective. Because she has children that are growing up. She thinks about what she was doing and she was thinking about what she was doing in Scientology and what her parents were having her do in Scientology at the same age and that her kid is at now and she just like, why would you do that? Like, I think her parents sent her off to the Scientology boarding school in Oregon, delphi, the Delphian foundation or the Delphian school, or whatever they call themselves. This day, when she was eight years old, they sent her off to boarding school.
Speaker 2:And I thought you've got to be kidding me Eight years old. We've done that same thing that Liz was talking about so many times. We've talked about it before too. I was four years old when my mother joined the SEER organization, so when our kids were that age, it was really like it was. Having having our kids gave me, helped me, gain my own perspective on my childhood, because up until we had kids, I was still even though I was out of Scientology still just like oh, whatever, I'm not going to talk about it. You know, I didn't even we didn't even really talk about it that much.
Speaker 1:It's like, you know, just leave the past behind, let's not talk about that shit these other points of view on Scientology and it's so crazy to me that all these people can have a totally different story but the same exact things are happening. I know Same exact stories are coming out. And you think, and Scientology made a real big point of saying this when we were speaking out in 2006 and 2007 and 2008,. They made a big point of saying, yes, there was physical violence going on, yes, there were horrible things going on, and it was these guys that were doing it. It was Mark and Claire and Michael, mike Rinder, and these were the people.
Speaker 2:Marty Rathbun.
Speaker 1:Marty Rathbun, mike Rinder, and these were the people Marty Rathbun, marty Rathbun, these were the people that were pushing the violence and pushing all these things. And then you find out you talk to somebody who escaped two weeks ago and the stuff's still going on Yep, and the craziness and the stories. And then you talk to Liz Ferrisris and you find out they told her her father passed away when he didn't. And you've, and you're just like. This is the stuff that ended when we left in 2005 and you're still doing it, like last week and the week before and two months ago, and it's just like you know, it's just like you don't. Like you know, it's just like you don't.
Speaker 1:You couldn't think that it's still doing, it's still going on, and and they said it wasn't going on, and you thought OK maybe they pretended that they stopped, so you know, or they really did stop because we started talking about it, you thought, ok, and I did hear some stories that now they don't. If one, if, if a female gets pregnant in the C organization, they, they let them leave, and they don't. If a woman, if a, if a female gets pregnant in the C organization, they, they let them leave, and they don't. They can't say anything. They can kind of like hope that they, they, they terminate it, but if they don't, then they just have to let them leave.
Speaker 2:But as of but, as of two weeks ago, we found out that they're back to the same, back to the same old I know.
Speaker 1:So that's so then we hear a story that they're doing it again and you just go like okay, so they're just the, the. You know what is it? The? Uh, the cat.
Speaker 2:The cat can't change its stripes or you know, I don't know what to say. You can't teach an old dog new tricks. I know that one, but uh, okay, well, you think I personally somebody's got to help me out. They couldn't be so stupid to keep doing the things that everybody the entire earth, everyone on earth agrees that these practices are destructive and evil and not okay. And yet they got to get back to it.
Speaker 1:Leopard can't change its spots. That's the comments. Thank you, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, comments, for coming to my rescue.
Speaker 2:And sweet liberty. You guys are amazing, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and also they do have. I mean, we, we know to an extent they can't change their spots because they have to rely on L Ron Hubbard and all the things that he wrote. But David Miscavige has been changing things that David, that L Ron Hubbard wrote, for 40, 50 years and it hasn't stopped them at all. So you think well, if, if, if David Miscavige really did want to change the things that were happening, he would just come up with the reason why these certain things had to change, or L Ron Hubbard didn't actually we found out L Ron Hubbard didn't actually write that or whatever the other excuses he's been using to change all the other things that he's been changing for the last 40 years. He could just use that to change these other things, but they're not.
Speaker 1:They're not working on changing guys. They're working on shutting us up and shutting down the SPs and telling all the Scientologists how bad we are and all the bad things about us. And, funnily enough, I think that might be what's leading all the Scientologists to our channels. Is them talking smack about us? Because Scientologists find out about these big bad SPs that are on YouTube and they're on Facebook and they're on the Internet. We should show that I don't know if we've ever done a video about the Facebook police like Jim Meskimen and those guys that were writing to all my friends on Facebook.
Speaker 2:Javier Ruiz's wife.
Speaker 1:You've got a friend on Facebook. That's bad news.
Speaker 2:And all these people that we know too, like Laurieann Isaacson and.
Speaker 2:Prudence Tweedy I mean, come on people. Prudence Millsap, let's just name names because this is what they do and I'm not friends with them, obviously, and they've got me blocked, but I'm sure they're up to their same old nonsense. But yeah, speaking of Hubbard, by the way, I started re-listening to Bareface Messiah, which is on my shelf back here, and it was just mind-boggling how Scientology fought that book tooth and claw. And when I was listening today I was laughing because in the court case one of Scientology's tactics was like oh, you can't use L Ron Hubbard's photo. Scientologists are going to think this is his actual biography. And the judge was like really, the title is Bare-Faced Messiah. I don't think so.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know, that is actually one of the clues that we got early on when we started doing stuff on Scientology is you don't have to make up anything in regards to Scientology, just tell exactly what happened name names, name places and times. What happened, name names, name places and times and the chances are somebody out there was there and they're gonna be like, yep, that happened and that is exactly what's been happening with all the people that have been telling their stories. You've got these Scientologists or people that just were in Scientology as a child or they worked with somebody that was a Scientologist or whatever. They were just Scientology adjacent and they know about some of these things.
Speaker 1:And then you do have these people that like escaped and they've never told anybody in their family that they're not in Scientology and they don't even care anymore. And they start speaking out and then it's like, oh, there's this new big bad SP. It's like, no, this person's been there the whole time and you didn't have a hate side out about them. But as soon as they start telling their story, you're like, oh well, it's time. You know, turn on the site, turn on the PIs, turn on the. You know all these different things that they do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Fire up that domain name that we purchased five years ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you know, this is something that's really crazy. And so, for those of you don't know, on X, there is a thing that's been on there this whole time where Scientologists can block SPs. So they can block blown for good at blown for good. That's my, that's my X handle, and they can block that. Well, when they block it and they tweet about me or or or another S Scientology, oh, sabat, or whoever, when they tweet bad things about me, I can't see them because they have me blocked. Well, because it's sort of been that way, and if somebody's hating on me and my channel, I'm like, whatever, I don't ever see it unless they block me. I just don't see it. If they don't have me blocked, I might see these things, and every once in a while I do and I interact, and then they just block me right away. So then I'm like, okay, somebody says X, is that some porn site? No, it's what. It's what they used to call Twitter. You maniac. Where have you been.
Speaker 2:It's so annoying, though, why did I?
Speaker 1:have to go from Twitter to X. Well, people are saying I refuse to call it X, that's what it's called. You can call it whatever you want, but that's what the name is now.
Speaker 2:I'm with them. Okay, I don't care.
Speaker 1:I'm just going to tell you what's about to happen. And Scientology is literally about to lose their minds. So they have this thing where Scientologists can block SPs on X, aka Twitter, and what happens is I'm talking about you know, I'm talking about xenu he's my home boy how we busted him out of the cave, that he that uh, they, the loyal officers locked him in all this stuff. Well, scientologists are not supposed to see any of that stuff and because they have me blocked, they're never going to see it. Well, guess what's getting blocked? The block feature on X is getting blocked. So there's going to be no more blocking, unless I think I'm trying to. I don't even know who you can. I don't think you could block somebody on there. I don't know. There's going to be some way. Anyway, I don't know exactly how it's going to work out, but regardless, scientologists are not going to be able to use X anymore because the SPs will not be able to be blocked.
Speaker 1:So I know some people don't have. They have different ideas about stuff. I'm a Tesla, I'm a big Tesla fan and I'm a big SpaceX fan. So if you got a problem with that, I'm sorry. I like not paying because I have solar. It's charging my car for free. I like that. I do also drive a Ram 2500 diesel when I'm not driving the Tesla. So I'm not necessarily your typical tree hugger kind of guy, because I got to haul equipment around and I need a big truck.
Speaker 2:Actually, I would quite like to see you hug a tree, honey. That would be kind of funny.
Speaker 1:I've scratched my back on a tree many a time, time like a bear, but uh anyway, but either way, um we should call it x pka twitter pk format.
Speaker 1:What's p? Previously? Previously paka x, paka twitter anyway, um. So regardless, um, there's a lot of people. There's a lot of people on X and there is a lot of people we do. Actually, I have a lot of X followers on X, so so I use it and this video right now is streaming on X. So, yeah, so Scientology is most likely going to have to get off X. Another platform platform they've already Facebook is pretty much banned for most Scientologists. I think you can block people on Facebook, but there's a lot of Scientologists that use Facebook to talk to SPs. They message SPs and stuff like that, even though they're not friends. I don't exactly know how they do it.
Speaker 1:But, and also, xenu's name starts with X. Come on, guys. It's just a match made in heaven and people get on my case because I make fun of their beliefs. I'm not making fun of their beliefs. Xenu is my homeboy, I'm friends with him. Okay, I'm not making fun of them. I just think that it's ridiculous that if you have an intergalactic overlord that imprisoned billions and billions of people and transported them nine light years from his planet and brought them to earth and did all of that, and you hear the story and you're gonna get on the side of a guy, a four-foot thirteen guy named Dave. You're gonna go on his team and says he news team, I'm on team Xena, that's what I'm just saying. Okay, so, regardless of what you think of their beliefs, if they really do believe in an intergalactic space alien, why would you team up with Dave, with little Davey? I just don't think that's a really it's just not a good decision. Anyway, so there's that. Speaking of little Davey.
Speaker 2:we have some really exciting news.
Speaker 1:We do Do you have the stuff? Do you have the stuff?
Speaker 2:No, I don't, oh, you were supposed to get that ready?
Speaker 1:Okay, no, I don't. Oh, you were supposed to get that ready. Okay, we are going to. In the next video, we do. We are going to show you some photos of the little Davy doll. The little Davy doll is coming. The little Davy doll.
Speaker 2:Prepare to be amused.
Speaker 1:The little Davy doll is being made.
Speaker 1:We have several thousand little Davies coming our way Way in time for Christmas and the little Davy dolls are going to be a fundraiser for the aftermath foundation and everyone we sell is going to go to help um is going to help to support the aftermath foundation and people that do escape from Scientology and need help and need a helping hand getting their feet back down on their feet on the ground and start their lives over or reconnect with their family. That's not in Scientology, or whatever they need. These little Davy dolls are going to go help that. And these little Davy dolls I don't have. I did have one sample and I gave it to somebody that was very important to me, and so that person has the only one in existence right now.
Speaker 2:But when I do. We can guarantee you this. The only person who will not be laughing is Captain Davy himself.
Speaker 1:Yes, captain Davy is not going to like these. Captain Davy dolls and you know we are going to have to do a, we're going to have to do some kind of survey. We've we've got about 10 names that are the best names that. We got the troll of the hole. We got the troll of the board.
Speaker 1:TOB, the troll of the board, little Davy doll, captain Davy doll, the troll from Down Under. I mean, we've got so many good names for this little Davy doll, but little Davy doll is what I'm just going to, because everybody knows who little Davy is and there's a little Davy doll but so many good things. Captain of the hole. Little Captain Davy doll.
Speaker 1:David Miscavige hates being called Davy, he hates being called captain and he hates people bringing up his height. So a little Davy doll is sort of or little Captain Davy doll, sort of just I don't know, troll the holes, troll the board, they're all good. Anyway, we'll have to figure out a name and we might end up calling him all of those things and then that way, whatever website Scientology sets up, we'll just come up with new names to call it. Because if they don't, if they're not buying up all these domain names, little Davy doll and troll the whole, if they're not buying up all these domains, I don't know what OSA has been up to. I mean, osa, get the, get on the ball. Okay, um, okay. Should we do a giveaway?
Speaker 1:It's 45 minutes in 1500 people up in here.
Speaker 2:Um, I think we should take a little break. Yes, yes, time to have some fun.
Speaker 1:Um, let's just do. I'm going to do whatever I'm going to. We're just going to let it fly, we're just going to let our freak flags fry and we're going to say if you want a book, say book. If you want to merge, say merge. You know, if you want an SP bracelet, um if you want a bobblehead whatever, just say whatever you can say, whatever, that's also that'll, that's a winner, um, whatever um get the comments.
Speaker 1:I'm going to give people. I like to. I like to really let people like if you're watching on Apple TV, you got to get out your phone, you got to go to the channel, you got to find the video, you got to get in the comments. I know what it takes logistically to get up in there sometimes, um, depending on what you're watching on. According to YouTube, about 75% of you are watching on a device that's in your hands, but there are some other people. So let's see. Oh yeah, there we go. Let's see what we've got here. Let's do a five. Let's do a countdown from five. Oh yeah, there we go, it's going. Now I see it. When my StreamYard starts to freeze up, I know they're really rocking it out in the comments there.
Speaker 2:I know it's crazy.
Speaker 1:Okay, here we go. This is it. And skadoosh, I didn't do the countdown out loud, I did it in my head. I'm sorry, june Roberts bobblehead, you got it, june Roberts, and you can say that you won and that you'd like a bobblehead.
Speaker 2:Send us your address and we will get that off to you.
Speaker 1:We'll shoot you. Anything Stranger than fiction, I will take anything. How about a thank you, thank you. Stranger than fiction, that's anything.
Speaker 2:I just wanted to give you anything. I'm going to do a giveaway too. Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:Rocky road. Zeno is my homeboy. Congratulations, june Roberts. Yes, thank you, dom's mom. Seven to five.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Let me do one thing here.
Speaker 1:What are you doing to do?
Speaker 2:I'm going to do Lisa.
Speaker 1:Oh, you just picked one.
Speaker 2:Yes, because Lisa sent me this really awesome SPTV pouch that I made the SPTV creator survival kit that I showed on the live with Amy. I had, like, my phone, you know, so you can film the PIs. I had pepper spray, you know, because you've got to be protected and you've got to be careful. And then I had poopery because, you know, osa smells like poo.
Speaker 1:Nice, nice, very. Sounds like it Sounds good, lisa. Whatever you want, osa smells like poo, nice, nice, very.
Speaker 2:It sounds like. Whatever you want, shoot me an email. You know how to reach me. Well, no, but earlier she said book.
Speaker 1:So oh well, whatever it's all good Give her both Give her both. How about that, okay? Um, awesome, we'll see. There you go. I love giving stuff away. I tell you, we have so much good merch. I love when people wear the merch out and about and take pictures and the Zinu I'm trying to think what's doing the best. I think the mugs really do well, but we have got a lot of sweatshirts, the hoodies, a lot of those Blown for Good hoodies, and Zinu is my homeboy and hail xenu all we have the whole.
Speaker 2:Where is shelly?
Speaker 1:oh, that's right, those do pretty good too. The where shelly stuff is um pretty good as well. So there's a lot of merch. If you haven't been over to the blown for good store link is in the description. You should go over there and check it out. Um, christmas is coming up. Folks, people love merch. If you know somebody that watches this channel, send them a mug. Send them a mouse pad, send them a hat. Send them a hat. Send them an SP bracelet. Tell you those SP. I've been wearing my SP bracelet. I mean, I don't take it off for anything. I think when I was in the hospital I had to take it off. That's the only time I take it off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that was years ago. That was years ago.
Speaker 1:That wasn't before I went to the battered husband shelter. I swear that never happened.
Speaker 2:Seriously stop it.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, Claire looks so good. Okay, Look at this cut. They got to cut my hair short because you know, you know he gets pulled out in toughs. You got to keep that. Uh, got to keep it. So it's. It's non grabbable. That's what you really got to have.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Um, that's what they teach. You do know we we had our 31st anniversary at the battered husband's shelter. That's right, get that hair short man. Sarah Forbear says Mark, you were fit back in the day. I was fit back in the day. I was very skinny. You could see my ribs. You could see my ribs too.
Speaker 2:You always used to call me a T-Rex because my spine protruded so badly.
Speaker 1:I used to uh, I don't know about that, I didn't always call you T-Rex, only once in a while. That wasn't a play name, um, anyway. Um, I, I used to have a six pack when I was in the CR, just cause I didn't eat a lot, but now I have a two liter. So you know, here's what it is when some you lose some. Um, I think I got a 12 pack, not a six pack, anyway. So what were we doing? What were we back to? Do we have, do we have some? Oh, yeah, we got a ton of comments. Let's do that, let's get to the, let's get to these comments. Oh, you are you starring just every single.
Speaker 2:There's 52 comments. No, I did a bunch before we started, just because I asked people in the chat to say where they were from. So you don't have to do all of them, but you know.
Speaker 1:That's good, I'll do it. Brisbane. Thank you, cosmic Christy. Brisbane, brisbane, lincoln, lincoln, california. I didn't even know there was a Lincoln California.
Speaker 2:Me neither. Dastardly Saboteur that's one of my favorite names on YouTube, by the way.
Speaker 1:There are some good ones on here. Carol D from UK.
Speaker 2:She's a regular. Thanks for being here, Carol.
Speaker 1:Karen Radford from Indianapolis.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:Thank you, karen. We appreciate you coming in here From. Thank you, karen, we appreciate you coming in here From a poet, brian Lucas. Hello from Central Arkansas, nice Howdy from Texas, wonder Woman.
Speaker 2:Boom.
Speaker 1:My personal favorite. I was just going to say, claire is a big fan of Wonder Woman, I personally am actually the new Wonder Woman. That gal, you know people get on my case for calling women gal. No, this girl's name is gal, that gal Wonder Woman. She's amazing. People don't get on my case for calling women gal. No, this girl's name is gal that gal wonder woman.
Speaker 2:People don't get on your case about that, honey. It's the B word that they don't like oh broad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't say that. I did figure out who I was hanging out with. It said broad all the time and when I accused him of kind of getting me.
Speaker 1:Exerting undue influence on you when I accused him of teaching me that and kind of get me in the hang of calling people broad, he said I taught him that I was like no, no, no, anyway, we, we, we have fun with that. Um, vancouver, joe Schmoe from Simcoe's. Uh, hi from Vancouver org. Hey, see, that's fun. Laura says Claire, aw, I don't know what that was about, but there you go.
Speaker 2:Not sure either. Hey, Laura, good to see you here.
Speaker 1:I'm just doing every one that Claire did. There might be some super chats in here or not, I don't know, she's her star. So the way it works on the back end for us in the StreamYard application or whichever application we're using, is we're able to star certain comments, and those are the ones that I have served up in front of me to read, and Claire has starred all of these, and usually the app automatically stars the super chats, but I haven't seen any of those yet. So we'll see um guys, but Heidi Hooper glad. Hey everybody. It's Heidi from Atlanta. Glad to see Mark is going to be on tonight. We haven't seen him in a little while, it seems. This is true, heidi. Thank you for welcoming me back. I appreciate it. Hello from Virginia Bumblebee, tuna 477. I meant Clearwater Canada, nancy Alley. Wow, there's a Clearwater Canada.
Speaker 2:No, that's a joke that sprung up where people are like. I'm from Clearwater Ohio.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I'm from.
Speaker 2:Clearwater, California.
Speaker 1:People have done that a lot on this. That is a recurring theme. Mark and Claire and Matt and Amy win the SPTV cutest couples award. Why, thank you? Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Um, how many other couples are there? Are there more than us?
Speaker 2:That was a great question. Those are the only two we wouldn't know, there's Mike and Christy Mike.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's true. But Mike and Chris oh, you know they actually have been doing some lives lately. Yeah, they have.
Speaker 2:They absolutely go in that, in that bucket.
Speaker 1:But other than that.
Speaker 2:I don't think there's any other couples per se.
Speaker 1:So take that, mike and Christy. Greetings from Dallas, texas, kaz. Thank you, Kaz. Clearwater, california. I see, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, here I have to put up this comment. It's funny and plus it's hold on.
Speaker 1:It's apostate, alex, in the house. I am. I am a couple, I am in a couple with myself and thus win couple of the year award. Thank you very much. Okay, you say so, alex. That sounds weird to me, but you're in Scientology, goldie. I think I'll grab some coffee.
Speaker 2:Oh, I just hit that because I wanted you to give a shout out to Goldie, because we've missed her so much.
Speaker 1:I know, goldie, I'm sorry I haven't been giving you any work to do, but Claire's been keeping you mighty busy, so it's all good. Oh, hello from Malmo, sweden. I went to Malmo, sweden, picked up a pair of speakers once. Hello, madeline from Malmo, sweden. Yes, malmo, I'm a big fan of Malmo. I was there for about eight minutes one time. Before I get back on the train with the speakers, I went back to Copenhagen. Um, julia, hello Claire and Mark. Greetings from Nottingham, england. I've got my headphones on and I'm going to fall asleep while listening to you both. It's so great having Mark back. We've missed you. Thank you, julia, I appreciate it. And, um, yeah, we just had a friend visit from England for a week or so and it was quite nice and he had such a good time. Maisie Barnett, super chat. Thank you, it's very generous of you, maisie. Claire, please tell us what you use on your hair. You're so beautiful inside and out. You're not chopped liver, mark, I am definitely chopped liver. So, claire, tell us what you did with your hair.
Speaker 2:I just did a little curling iron, just a little bit.
Speaker 1:Make it.
Speaker 2:You know, have some form.
Speaker 1:I tell you, I tell you.
Speaker 2:I'm not good with patience. I don't have the patience to do some fancy blowout or nothing like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, it doesn't take a lot to make Claire look really, really good. She can look just regular, really good just whenever, but a little hair curling and poof. Sptv Tattoo Warrior. Thank you for the super chat. Very generous Box is on its way, claire Happy face emoji.
Speaker 2:Okay, then I must be behind on my email, I guess hello maria.
Speaker 1:maria de jesus gets here as says mark long time, no see, put up a poll. Are you a sub? Uh, we actually know and this is really funny with our channel. We know there's a ton of Scientologists that watch our channel like a lot. We can see where you're watching from. It breaks it down by the city, okay. So we have the Clearwater and Los Angeles are the two biggest cities. So it's either because there's a lot of Scientology activity in those places or there's a lot of Scientologists in those places, or both. But regardless, the Scientologists are afraid to subscribe because they think Scientology sees who they're subscribing to and then they're going to get busted. So, scientologists, if you're going to watch our channel and you're going to find out all the juicy stuff that's happening in Scientology, set up a fake YouTube account or a second YouTube account called BillyBob123 or whatever, and subscribe. Okay, you're messing up the algorithm. You're getting it in your content anyway because you watched.
Speaker 1:So you've got to subscribe as well, because that helps the algorithm.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Pearl Snappy in the chat said today is the day Scientology learns about VPNs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, scientologist. Nordvpn, okay. Atlas VPN, any of the popular YouTube sponsored VPNs. Get over there and get one. Log into that. Log in from Germany and watch the videos. Okay, there you go, or Toronto, or wherever you want to be. If you're in Germany, don't log in from Germany and watch the videos. Okay, or Toronto, or wherever you want to be. If you're in Germany, don't log in from Germany. If you're a Scientologist, log in from Los Angeles.
Speaker 2:Or you know what would be really funny they should sign in from Gilman Hot Springs, California.
Speaker 1:You can't really do it like that. I think it's like no in the US. I think it's like Denver, west Coast or East Coast. It depends on it also US, I think it's like Denver, west Coast or East Coast. It also does depend on which VPN you're using.
Speaker 2:Okay, that would be pretty funny, though, yeah.
Speaker 1:But anyway, you can log in from different countries. I don't think you can be so specific. I'll have to research that. But if you have a VPN company, make it from the city. You'll get a lot more Scientologists because they want to be very specifically, not from where they're from. Yep, lori Plays oh my God, the super couple of SPTV back together again. You guys are the best We've been together. We just haven't been doing videos, that's all We've been here and I have been doing. I really have been working and I'm out of town a lot. So, susan B, so happy to see my favorite couple. Thank you, susan B, appreciate that Very generous of you.
Speaker 2:Thank you, john.
Speaker 1:Satowski, ending Scientology one Mr Bill at a time. Thank you for the super chat, john Satowski Good to see you here. Yeah, oh, I showed that one. Susan B, thank you very much for that. John Satowski, oh, gary, jackson Moorhead. Hey you two. Hey, jackson. Um, yeah, has jackson been doing videos on his channel?
Speaker 2:I've not been keeping up with every single channel while I've been in my travels I saw a comment from goldie that would lead me to believe he hasn't put up new content lately. So come on, jackson. Yeah, well maybe we'llones. Maybe we'll do a collaboration with him and help him wipe the rust off.
Speaker 1:Jackson. He works really hard, he does. I know I'm calling him Lazy Bones because he's not doing any videos in his free time.
Speaker 2:He's not, though, like us, he has a full-time job, and then he's also, like us, been doing crazy work behind the scenes that we, when we're not talking about, and so, yeah, this is like um, something else that we need to get. Get help him, help him along with We'll. We'll do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's all good too, I do. Who am I to talk? I haven't done a video in like in a month, um, but yes, um, oh, and Burrow says she's got a question Um, do you list video? You list video videos from interviews you do on other channels? Youtube page Claire's interview with Shalice was great, made me cry. Yeah, I think we can make those. We can make those part of a playlist on the channel. We should.
Speaker 2:I've done with.
Speaker 1:Jeff, or I did with um, just any other channels with, uh, even Chris Shelton I did videos with um. Tony Ortega, whoever, Um, so we'll put those on the playlist. On our chat We'll make a um, there'll be a playlist on there. You'll get, you'll tell if it's, if it's a bunch of videos that aren't on our channel, then that's the playlist.
Speaker 2:We'll make a cracker liquor playlist and a Claire bear playlist.
Speaker 1:There you go. I did a um, I did a video with Patrick bet David, uh, from value attainment on his channel. I think that's on our playlist but that's actually one of the channels that sort of kind of convinced me to do a YouTube channel. Was the video? Was, um, a video that I watched on Patrick bet David's channel. So, and then, just because people kept writing to me saying, do it a YouTube channel, I was like, eh, I might as well. Dom's mom, seven 25 again.
Speaker 1:Claire, saw your two part interview with Shalice and you were amazing. I so admire your strength. You've turned a painful a pain into a fight to help others escape, avoid the same pain, a pain into a fight to help others escape, avoid the same pain. So much respect. Yeah, that's the other thing. That's the other reason, um, we do do a lot of videos, um, on our channel, and the reason we started doing videos on other people's channels is because, um, we're trying to get the word out. So you guys have heard a lot of these stories that we're telling and um, so it's fun to just go on another channel where they've got a whole nother set of people that some of them might be crossover, like the Shalice.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of people that subscribe to Shalice, that also subscribe to our channel, but there might be other people over there that haven't seen some of our content, and the same thing with just other channels. So we've been doing that with other channels and we're not going on a lot of the other SPTV channels, because there's tons of people that would love to tell their stories, that would love to go on those other SPTV channels and we don't need to hog up those guys' channels with our stuff. So it's sort of like just a way to spread the word to people that might not be getting this content. So, yeah, so that's sort of our just a way to spread the word on to to people that might not be getting this content. So, so, yeah, so that's why we, that's sort of our, that's our idea of how we're doing it, and so, and they, they like.
Speaker 1:A perfect example is Jenna Miscavige's channel. Okay, we haven't been on her channel and she's got 7,000 or 8,200 subscribers or whatever, from just people telling that she has a channel. She's already got 7,000 subscribers. So I'm pretty sure the Miscavige name's not hurting her too bad either.
Speaker 1:But, either way, we cannot wait until she does some videos and we will definitely be on her channel if she wants us to Welcome back. Mark, so glad to have you back. Thank you, lisa March Banks. Dragonfish, handmade Goods, goods. Um betsy, a creature says so excited for more spy files. Yes, we are gonna do more spy files. If I have to just break down and break out of my cage and come down here in the middle of the night while, while while my wife is sleeping to do a video. Hey, hair Bentley, can you get a bark to autograph cracker? Yeah, no, that cracker thing went horribly wrong. I'm sorry for all the people who really wanted me to eat a bunch of crackers and do funny cracker videos. That cracker, that whole cracker episode was just a horrible debacle. I cannot eat crackers. I'm just my body does not want to have. A cracker episode was just a horrible debacle. I cannot eat crackers, I'm just my body does not.
Speaker 2:That trailer that Kelly Copter helped us put together was kind of like the pinnacle of Mark's career with crackers and that it's been entirely downhill since then.
Speaker 1:I literally got sick from eating the crackers in that video that I did for Kelly. That's what turned me upside down and it was like, yeah, you're not supposed to eat those. Mixed. Snot face. Thank you for the super chat. Snot face, that is an interesting name, see. If you're going to Scientologist, if you're going to set up a channel, call it Snot Face. Just that could be your username on YouTube and all the OSIS spies will look the other way. Miss seeing both of your faces together. Thank you, snot Face. I appreciate it. Thank you. Kay Thompson says love you guys. I'm a never inner, but had a life-changing experience that crippled not literally me for a long time. You've helped me categorize and accept what happened. Your words help so many hugs and kisses.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you, kay. You know I was. It was really funny that I was the channel that I was on doing a video. Right before this we had talked about that, one thing that a lot of there's we've seen. I've seen a bunch of comments like how can you, how can you be joking and how can you talk lightly about this? You know? Kind of horrible thing and we've talked about it so much for so long that we've accepted what happened. It is what it is and we were in the wrong place at the wrong time and we were born into the wrong family or whatever that we ended up in the Scientology. But we're here now and we got here by going through that and I sort of kind of love what I get to do and how I get to do it and my kids and my wife and my friends and my neighbors and I sort of love my life now. So if I have to go through all that to get to here, then it is what it is. And, yeah, it is what it is.
Speaker 2:And my take on that is hey, we can either laugh or we can cry. You know, we can focus on what's ahead or we can regret what lay behind, and there seems to me power forward. What you do today is what counts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, well said. Bella Lata said you two remind me of George Burns and Gracie Allen. Thank you, that's very generous of you. Bella Lata, and you might be dating yourselves on the George Burns and the Gracie Allen, because that's a while back there. I mean, it definitely went over Claire's head. I know exactly who those people are and I watched a lot of TV as a small child.
Speaker 2:Just being honest, I own my media ignorance.
Speaker 1:Snuff Face. Oh, snuff Face is back again. Thank you for the super chat. I miss your attitude, mark. Well, thank you. I think I have the same kind of attitude as Claire Gary Jackson Moorhead says. Hey, marky, mark, your lighting is running a little hot, kicking a couple scrims, you know, I know it is, and I had to set this camera up for somebody else and I didn't really have any way to tweak the lighting or anything, so I'm just going with it for now. I will have my normal camera and normal lighting backup on the next video, I promise.
Speaker 2:We will be back to our regular programming shortly.
Speaker 1:Thanks for bringing it up, jackson. I appreciate that, I really do.
Speaker 2:He really does.
Speaker 1:Kat Maddiets. Non-scientologist, supports SPTV and the Foundation. Thank you, katdiets. Non-scientologist supports SPTV and the foundation. Thank you, kat. I appreciate that. It's very generous of you. I really want to rep the Aftermath Foundation. Can we get some?
Speaker 2:T-shirts.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's true, Didn't we do that? I think we have something.
Speaker 2:We have some at the SP shop, but we'll add some more, because somebody sent me designs recently that were pretty awesome. So, and actually I sent some of the shirts to Serge and he was thrilled.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Yeah, we do get people send us their own kind of homemade merch all the time. Some of it's really amazing it is. And I mean I just kind of wear these button down shirts. That's really the only thing I wear. I'm not wearing this special for this video. I just get off work and sit down and wear what I'm wearing. But we'll see if I can wear some merch for one of the videos.
Speaker 2:I'm going to wear my Zeno is my homeboy shirt for our 40K party. Zinu is my homeboy shirt for our 40k party oh, do I have one of those.
Speaker 1:I think so see guys, chump change express over here she's got one she's got one. Do I have one? We'll have to check you asked for a mug and I got you a mug we'll have to go down to the dungeon and see if there's any merch for me down there next to my cot.
Speaker 2:I definitely got you already. Oh, my God, enough with this, it's too much already, oh my gosh, look at this, hold on, I got to put this up real quick.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Ready, hold on. Oh yeah, newman in the house.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, eric, don't show that. Okay, um, not a sheeple. Love you, claire. Welcome home, mark. So nice to see you back together. Thank you, um, that's very generous Thank you of you. Um, thank you for that, peter Anderson, blown for good um. Anniversary date to 11, 2008. There you go. So, even before I had a book, I had a YouTube channel.
Speaker 2:That's crazy February 11, 2008.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think I made some videos at the time. If you want to go back in history, we'll have a little blown for good history lesson here. I think at the time I was putting up some videos of these hate websites that they were putting up and I didn't really have a place to put them, so I just started a YouTube channel and put them there, and that's where I, if I had any videos, I wanted somebody to see, that's where I'd put them, and I did have some of these really weird behind the scenes videos of Tom Cruise and David Miscavige backstage at one of his birthday parties and I put some videos of that up and that's all that was really sitting up there since 2008. Veronica, I just I starred this one myself Just because she said Veronica Bombria says hello, cats and kittens. Isn't that what that? Isn't that? Come on comments.
Speaker 2:You know the what's her name?
Speaker 1:The cat lady. Uh, yeah, come on comments.
Speaker 2:You know the what's her name, the cat lady. Yeah, come on now, tiger.
Speaker 1:Carol Baskin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there you go, carol Baskin.
Speaker 1:Carol Baskin, that's it.
Speaker 2:Cats and kittens.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, hello all you cats and kittens. Is that what she used to say, cats and kittens?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm pretty sure Nobody's confirmed it yet, but hello, all you cats and kittens.
Speaker 1:Oh, creepy Goldie's got this in the comments. I'll just put it here in case I don't really think you can click on it, but it's in the comments so you can look for it. Get Gail's book here on Amazon. This is Liz Gail's book, so I guess if you want to see where to get Liz Gale's books, we can also put it in the description. Just make a note to remember to put it in the description after we're done with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I already ordered a copy. I'm going to see if I can do a thing with her, like with Liz, like I did with Catherine Spolino.
Speaker 1:Perfect, abigail. Thank you, that's very generous of you. Hi, I mentioned this on Claire and Amy's Wednesday live stream and it didn't work for them, but maybe it'll work for you too. When Aaron does some gestures, they have side effects. Peace sign equals balloons. Two thumbs up equals fireworks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I saw. So I think that it might be. You have to have single screen, like a single person on screen. But I I heard someone talking about it. I don't think it works when we have two cameras. I'm not sure You'll have to try it out next time.
Speaker 1:I have no idea what any of this means.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry guys, it's like those finger movements that you make and it pulls balloons across the screen and other things like that.
Speaker 1:Oh, if I do this, it does it.
Speaker 2:I don't know, or it might just be that, oh, if I do this it does it, or if you type it, it does it, or it might just be that, oh, there it is Wow, look at that, let me try. Hold on. What did you do?
Speaker 1:I did thumbs up, two thumbs up.
Speaker 2:That's two fingers, not two thumbs.
Speaker 1:Well, two fingers up.
Speaker 2:How come? Yeah, I see it. Hold on, let. Let me try on the other side.
Speaker 1:Well, there you go. Whatever I did it, I did it.
Speaker 1:Headlies large truck, headlies. Thank you for that super chat, headlies. It's your favorite heavy goods vehicle here Large truck. One thing I've always wondered can someone subpoena a private investigator working for OSA? I don't know, I'm not a lawyer, I'm really horrible at those questions but I do know that I don't know. You know, I know one of the.
Speaker 1:The thing that I do know is Scientology always use this, uses the private investigator excuse that they're doing an investigation, like for a lawsuit. So what they'll do is they'll drop a complaint. Just a phony document, just a complaint. A lawyer will draw it up, an in-house Scientology lawyer. They'll drop a complaint and then they'll hire the private investigators. They're not going to ever do anything with the complaint, there's never going to be a lawsuit, but they have all their ducks in a row.
Speaker 1:So if somebody asks and say, yeah, we were going to sue this person and that's why we had a complaint drawn up and we hired a private investigator, and so they cover all their bases, but it's super creepy that they're spying on people that used to work there. So it's like okay, I get it, you've covered all your bases, but you're still creepy cult for hunting down your ex-members. So you know, it's just like okay, diana B, thank you for the super chat. Wouldn't believe the stories if we didn't hear from you guys directly via YouTube. Yeah, you know that's. Another thing is thank you for that, diana B. When we do these shows like we did that, we spent, let's say, a day, a full, entire day. We spent shooting that 60 Minutes Australia TV show.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:They came to our house. There were camera people and audio people and we we shot in the house and we set up and we set up lights and we set up cameras and we went out here and we did this and we were on the front porch. Did you see us sneaking that SPTV merch on the on the show guys? Oh yeah, um, we sit on the porch. They do photos. We went to another location to do the interview with um, the, the, the interviewer in the show, and um, all these things happened. We spent an entire day. That was a 60. I don't even know how long it was. It wasn't even 60 minutes. Really. It's an hour program, right? I guess that's what the format is about an hour.
Speaker 1:Let's say we spent 15 minutes of us. They used in that maybe maybe a maximum, maybe 10 minutes Yep, 10 minutes of footage. We made it into that show. We shot for an entire day. We said and told all kinds of stories and they even did another video Like they released a special video on YouTube which was like an outtake a conversation we had because we talked about Tom Cruise. If you talk about Tom Cruise and it doesn't make it into the show, they're going to make its own video just because it was Tom Cruise. I think it was about me falling asleep while he was doing the counseling on me yeah, there you go, something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but at least the stairs made it in my inclined stairs.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right, they went to the incline. We have a little thing where Claire runs up 200 steps six times every morning. Okay, when I steps six times every morning, um, okay, when I'm in the cage sleeping up and down those stairs before I even get out of the cage anyway. But um she, um, they went with her to the incline and they shot that. They had a cameraman poor cameraman, an audio guy had to hike up the top of a mountain so they could shoot claire getting to the top of the mountain, um, but so 10 minutes made into that thing and then they used another five or 10 minutes or whatever for some other silly Tom Cruise video thing outtake.
Speaker 1:But, um, so when we do these YouTube videos and we go and we're on here for an hour, um, and we can just tell you what, what happened, exactly, how it happened, and then maybe Claire was in, you know, has it from a different, uh, viewpoint or different angle, the same incident or a different incident that happened with her.
Speaker 1:We're just telling you what happened. When we do these TV shows, when we say things that are like there's no way that that should be happening, they can't show that sometimes on TV we're telling them things and we're saying things and they're like, oh no, we we can't show that because we don't have a video of that happening or we didn't have. But I mean, we were both there, we know what happened, we remember Um. So so when we do these shows, there's a day worth of footage being shot and it made 10 minutes, made it into that show. So when we're on here with you guys for an hour, you're getting the whole hour uncut, unedited, straight from the source Straight from the source exactly, In all our glorious mistakes and everything else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my hot lighting Jackson.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what you get. You get what you get, you don't throw a fit and yeah, that's what you get, you get what you get, you don't throw a fit.
Speaker 1:Sebastian Elder says I think you should declare that you are both class eights on the bridge to total cracker licking. Oh no, I'm like S, sebastian. Thank you for that. It's very generous. No, we're like OT. If there's like an OT 15 in Scientology, that's as high as you can get in Scientology. We're already at SP level 15 right now. Like if I don't do another video ever again and don't we don't sell another book, I'm already at SP level 15 and I will release the SP levels at some point. I'll write those up and release those. We'll probably do a video that the SP levels. We got to do that and we'll explain what the SP levels are. But if you want to be a suppressive person, all you have to do is say one bad thing about Scientology on YouTube and you can be an SP tomorrow. That's SP level one.
Speaker 2:That's entry. By the way, you reminded me of my favorite Jenna Miscavige story, which is that she was told when she was leaving. She was like well, I don't agree with the people you've made suppressive people. And they said you know what? You can talk to any suppressives you want. You just can't talk to Mark and Claire. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know what's really funny I have the. This was she told us that this happened at the time. She told us you know, they told me I could even talk to other SPs, but I could not talk to you two. And I thought, oh, that's funny. I have the SP file that OSA wrote where they told her that they wrote in there what they told her. It's in the files that day when they told her that and met with her. It's in there.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:So I can corroborate they did actually. Osa did really tell her that by, because OSA wrote it up themselves that they told her that.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And actually the only reason I know that is because Jenna I recently sent Jenna her SP files. So she um has, she might have, she might be one of the ex-SEO members that has the most files and the most detailed files because she was trying to leave the SEA organization for months and months and months and they were documenting every single little thing they did with her and the reports were getting sent to David Miscavige. So she's Jenna Miscavige. So if a Miscavige wants to leave the Sea Org, yeah you bet your bippy that Dave Miscavige is going to be being briefed on it. So these documents were being prepared and reports were being sent up on her on a regular basis and they went to great lengths to Jack with her scene when she was trying to leave and try to get her to divorce her husband at the time and trying to get him to divorce her and try to get him to stay and telling I mean they did the same, they did the same thing with all couples, but they tell the, they're telling them different things, but they they're separating them so they can't be together. The couple like she's being made to stay in one location and he's being made to stay in another location and then they're talking smack about them to each other saying, oh well, he said this and oh, she said this. And he said if you leave, then he's going to have to divorce you. And he said if she leaves she's going to. And so then? But they both want to leave and they both want to stay together and so they're trying to split them up in these documents.
Speaker 1:It's the craziest thing anyway, but OSA smells like poo, as Denverver steve says. Um question do you think osa giggle inside at the funny parts on here? Are they in offices near dm? No, david miscavige, he actually openly um talks smack about the osa guys at the end base. He talks trash about the osa people all the time, how they're incompetent.
Speaker 1:Basically anything that happens that's bad about Scientology. That's OSA's fault that they didn't already jack up these people's lives enough that they're even able to talk on YouTube. David Miscavige everything if he beats somebody up. If David Miscavige beats somebody up, and then that person 10 years later is on YouTube saying David Miscavige beat me up, that's OSA's fault. Osa did not handle that SP. Osa is the reason that that person is able to do that. So anything that's happening bad in Scientology, that's all OSA it's the C C org in general are incompetent. And whoever worked with that person, whoever audited that person which I take great pleasure in the fact that if you're in Scientology and you're an auditor and you're odd and the person that you're counseling, if that person turns into a suppressive, then you are essentially the worst auditor in the world and the planet. And if a person who was that guy? There was a guy at the base who audited Larry Wallersheim. I think it's Fred Hare.
Speaker 2:I want to say it's Fred Hare.
Speaker 1:Fred Hare was a Sea Ororse executive who audited. He was a counselor at one point or some sort of Scientology executive or or or counselor and he ended up auditing somebody who then sued Scientology and is a major suppressive person and that guy was given a crap about that. I mean, I heard him give him. I can't remember if it was Fred hair, but I think it was. Is Fred hair the guy that was in the events unit there?
Speaker 2:was two guys Fred Harris, yeah, but then there was another guy, was it Fred Fred? Hair was already gone, I think, by the time I got to the property, so I don't. I'm not too familiar with his.
Speaker 1:Mike would remember, but there was some guy that knows too. Oh yeah, that's true, but there are people that audited people that then turned into SPs, and David Miscavige would make fun of those people and deride them on a continual basis that they were the one that created that SP.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1:As some of you may or may not know, the person who audited be more than any other person in Scientology was Tom Cruise. So the fact that they think they've got a hate website up about me and they did all these other things, um, and they think they say I'm those big, bad, uh, suppressive person, guess what Somebody made me and I think it was, I think I was, it was a. It was a mix. It was a mix between Tom Cruise and David Miscavige. So if you got somebody to look to Scientology, those are David Miscavige was my boss and Tom Cruise was my auditor. Figure it out on your end. Okay, I don't know, play the blame game all you want. Sea Org Tech Discussions Wow, that's an awesome handle. By the way, claire Anne X Rathbun never liked me and would do her best to invalidate me when she could Invalidate. I don't. Is that a Scientology word? That's just a regular word, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And Scientology. Invalidate is basically when you pick on somebody in Scientology, when you poke fun or call out their shortcomings.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's invalidated. You intentionally cut them down and make less of them.
Speaker 1:Karma is a biatch and she now has a very nice job to carry. Well, I mean, I don't know, I'm not, I don't. She has a horrible job. She has to watch Shelley Miscavige full time. Um, and that's not a good job right now because everyone's looking for her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Somebody was asking me the other day do you think Shelley knows that the entire world is wondering where the heck she's at and why she hasn't been seen publicly? Like I kind of doubt that Shelly knows that actually, but yeah, anyway.
Speaker 1:I really doubt it. I don't think they would want her to know that in a million years. Nope nope. I think she must think something weird is happening. Well, no, because really, I mean if an attorney went and met with her, I mean if they actually did get somebody to meet with her, like if a police officer I'm not sure, because there's been so many different stories on how this has happened yeah, and we don't really ever. It's always through a lawyer, like a Scientology lawyer, that law enforcement really meets with her.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:But I mean that's got to have also kind of tipped her off that something is happening. If there's been some sort of like, hey, you need to do a statement or something, Right, Then she would get, like she might even get a clue Like Hmm, why would I do that? Like that would, if there, if, if that actually did happen Right, when someone like an attorney said, hey, we just need to sit down and make a, an affidavit or something, Um then, but they haven't released anything like that. So they.
Speaker 2:They've only released statements from her attorney, which is obviously a bunch of nonsense. The thing I learned recently in the course of the Where's Shelly series that was really disturbing to me is to learn that when she was imprisoned at CST she was not allowed to take her beagles with her. And that might sound like a nothing to most people, but her beagles you know her five beagles that she had. They're like her kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was banished without them yeah well, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. You can't get your dogs okay you're the wife of a cult leader. It's gonna be some.
Speaker 2:It's gonna be some thorns on that road along the way somewhere I know, but for anyone who's a dog lover, you feel the burn of that. I get that.
Speaker 1:She's a she's in a cult. I know, I know she's a prisoner in her, in her own cult, and whether she knows it or not, no, she knows without.
Speaker 2:That's the thing to me when they shipped her off without her dogs, that's the strong. That's where she would know. I am a prisoner, I have no say here, I have no choices. That that's it.
Speaker 1:That would communicate that to her unquestionably I'm pretty sure when she went to that, when she went to barney's funeral, she was already like that's it, I'm done yeah, no, I know so okay, stephanie says claire, I want to say for putting out such amazing interviews the past two weeks. I was unexpectedly hospitalized for 11 days. Your videos really helped pass the time in a really awful situation. Well, that wow.
Speaker 2:Wow, Stephanie. Well, get better. Thanks for watching. I'm glad we could provide something to help get better.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hospital's not a fun place. John Satowski, captain, little Boss Baby Davey, dirty Poopy Pants.
Speaker 2:I think that is in relation.
Speaker 1:You know what? We should write that down. Somebody screenshot this, that's it. That might be the name right there, and if you want to call him something else, you can call him something else. But Captain Little Boss Baby Davey Dirty Poopy Pants I think any variation of that would be fine with me as well, in case there's a way to kind of tidy that up a little bit. But Captain Little Boss Baby, davey Dirty Poopy Pants Sounds pretty good. Just wait till you see this thing, guys. I might've shown it like a little sneak preview. Have I shown it at all in a video?
Speaker 2:I think we did. Yeah, we showed it. When we get away.
Speaker 1:And, by the way, if you have an SPTV channel and you want one of these Captain, little Boss, baby Davey, dirty Poopy Pants, then get a hold of Claire and get her your address and when we get them, we're going to send them to all the sptv channels. Um, because they're, they're, you know, they're getting the word out.
Speaker 1:They'll make for great giveaways, yeah and maybe, yeah, maybe, we'll send them. We'll. We'll definitely do them as giveaways here, but we're gonna send them to all the different channels. So they know, um, the aftermath is alive and well and we are doing the job and, um, we're still you. You know, we did that fundraiser for Surge. We still are getting donations and we've got a lot of donations in from the mail, the YouTube fundraiser that we did, and so all those things are still going and and it's great, I named him Troll in the Hole I will buy one, andrew Humphrey. Thank you.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean Apple box elf. Anata on fire on Hata on fire says Apple box elf. That's a good one too. I like all of them. Look at Sheila. Sheila did a super chat. Pick me, please, pick me, pick me, pick me. Sheila, thank you for doing a super chat, but that is just a free pick me, you don't. You don't have to pay for pick me's, we just pick whatever one we pick. I'm sorry that you did a super chat for that, but thank you very much for the super chat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my only revision on troll in the hole it has to be troll of the hole, because he's not in the hole. He puts people in the hole, it's. It's a minor. Yeah, that's hole, it's a minor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:It's a matter of preposition, but it's an important distinction.
Speaker 1:Yeah, stacey Y. Thank you, stacey. Stacey is a very frequent flyer. I've missed seeing you both, but fortunately have many other channels to keep watching. Give you all the time, more behind the scenes stuff. Yeah, see, that's the other great thing about having other people to start up channels is that if you, uh, don't see me here for a little while, there is a ton of other people cranking out videos and um, and I like I watch, I tune into these other channels. I don't always jump in the comments, but, um, if I'm there and they're doing the video and I and I'm not doing something else, then I'll I'll chime in. Oh, I cannot wait. I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for somebody to comment. Pat Shields, thank you. You're so generous, mark, nice that you are back. Hey, from where? Where is she coming from, claire? Where's?
Speaker 2:she coming, where's she when?
Speaker 1:is she?
Speaker 2:Where is Pat? You're being mean honey, Stop it. Where's?
Speaker 1:Pat. Where's Pat writing from today? I was watching. I don't even remember where I was. I was in some far-flung part of the world watching a video.
Speaker 2:You were in Boston, I was in okay, I was in Boston. Thanks.
Speaker 1:Claire, that was me not saying where I was, and that was Claire saying, saying where I was, and that was Claire saying exactly where I was. Anyway, I'm watching a video. I can't remember I was doing something else, I was answering some emails or whatever, and she said Sash Ketchuan and I went.
Speaker 2:No, I didn't, I went Sash.
Speaker 1:Ketchuan. No, sash Ketchuan, sash Ketchuan, I know what I said and I was like Saskatchewan. I was like I know we didn't go to school, I got that, that's it, that's I get that, but Saskatchewan, saskatchewan. I was like it's Saskatchewan. Everyone knows that that's not a weird thing.
Speaker 2:Saskatchewan. I could argue that there's many things that are said in many different ways all over the world. So I've said things one way for 13 years of my life in England and now I say them a different way.
Speaker 1:But no one was saying Saskatchewan. No one was saying Saskatchewan.
Speaker 2:I didn't say that, I said Saskatchewan.
Speaker 1:Saskatchewan. Oh my God, the best part is that Amy just let it roll. Amy just let it roll.
Speaker 2:No, she didn't. Her eyes kind of widened a little bit. No, no, no, and I was like oh boy.
Speaker 1:But she didn't say, she didn't just say, like, if you say it, I'm going to say that's not how you say that.
Speaker 1:No, no, you guys just kept going and then she kind of she made a little face, but I was in the comments right then I was like, oh my god, please somebody tell her that she has no idea how to say that word. Anyway, thank you for that. I appreciate that comment. I was, and I told claire too. I said the next time I do a video we're talking about saskatchewan, that's happening, um, and then I totally forgot about it. So thank you for bringing that comment. Uh, that was the super chat of the night.
Speaker 2:Thank you so, so much. I so appreciate that.
Speaker 1:Clearwater Chad. Hi from Clearwater Buffalo. Thank you, clearwater Chad. You're too kind, abita, when are the wedding pics going to be aired? I've been asking the same question. I've asked three different occasions. When these wedding pics are going to get aired and I've got a video to convert, I'm going to do my part and then, once that's done, it's all over to the ginger here.
Speaker 2:That's all we're waiting for honey. Oh see now.
Speaker 1:Conversion. Yes, denver Stevo, speak of the devil. Hey, mark, welcome back to the real world. Greetings from northeastern, westerly pooh, broad, colorado. Yes, thank you for that, denver Steve-O, I have. I have been watching in the past few weeks. I have been kind of tuning into different channels and I was watching. I was watching lives that Denver Steve-O was doing and he and it was him Marilyn Clearwater, chad Um, there's been different other people at different times. Um, but um, I definitely was um, having fun watching some of these other SPD TV channels and some of their other videos and um, and every once in a while I would comment and um, but for most of the time I just lurk in there and I kind of just see what they're see, what they're up to. I just unstarred purple net, if you can find that one, I had I don't know where it was, I don't even remember it was before 6 0, 7 PM, it's purple, a super chat or a regular purple net, is the username Catherine Olson.
Speaker 2:Love you guys.
Speaker 1:AppleNet is the username Catherine Olson. Love you guys, Thank you.
Speaker 2:Catherine.
Speaker 1:Yay, catherine, good to see you here. Sarita Fisher, thank you for the super sticker, appreciate it. Lathanda Grocklinger says Hi from Germany. Once again, love to see you together. Yes, thank you, lathanda. We appreciate the super chat. Julie Blutstein Been a fan for years, since the book came out. Thank you, julie. I appreciate it. Ola Ola Stras. Oh, that's, I'm just you know.
Speaker 2:Strasalkowska.
Speaker 1:Saskatchewan I can do, but I don't know about this one, strasalkowska.
Speaker 2:That's my take on that.
Speaker 1:Okay, Ola. I say Ola works pretty good to me. Thank you for all you do making the world a better place. Well, I hope so. I don't know, I mean, if we get anything done with our friends over there that we used to work for. I'm going to say more about this publicly, but in the meantime we'll give you a thank you for the birthday fundraiser. I was utterly stunned and flattered.
Speaker 2:Wow. It was Goldie's birthday we did a Pete Jensen who is a pillar of SPTV. He did a GoFundMe and then we sent her a present separate or a nice thing separate to that too Nice.
Speaker 1:Well, that's really nice. You know, Pete, I think Pete is the one who did the very first MTV intro, SPTV intro that I really loved.
Speaker 1:Yes that's right, the Money for Nothing. Kimberly Stovall says dying for more spy files. Yeah, we're going to do the spy files for sure. We're going to keep going on that. I just been. Really I just when I found all those other documents that weren't about us and I was just like these need to get out to people, I can't just keep them for myself. So I spent many, many weeks and many days and hours trying to distribute those. So, thank you, kimberly, we'll definitely get those. Tamara says super sticker. Oh, thank you, tamara.
Speaker 2:Thank you, I marked that purple net, one that you wanted, by the way.
Speaker 1:Perfect. Thank you, billy Bob. One, two, three, see, that's all you had to do.
Speaker 2:That's all you had to do. Billy Bob. One, two, three. I think I know who this is, by the way.
Speaker 1:No, I just said it earlier in the video I said if you're a Scientologist and you want to get on here, just make a username BillyBob123 and BillyBob123 shows up, so you're welcome. Happy anniversary. Yes, thank you. We did recently celebrate 31 years. Actually, is this last week, this week.
Speaker 2:We're celebrating on Saturday night because Mark was out of town, so yay, yay, that's a tomorrow super sticker.
Speaker 1:I showed you that one, thank you, and then I showed that other one, blackmail. Oh so can I sell the blackmail name? Everyone gets weird reading the name. It's okay Blackmail. I mean there was somebody on here called snot face earlier.
Speaker 2:I mean it's you know it's a free world. Unless you're in Scientology, it's not a lot of judging going on in the comments from our end.
Speaker 1:I mean, if you want to call yourself snot face, that's better than uh Scientologist 787. Um, rosemary, thank you. Based on Leah's lawsuit, do you think the COS will stop producing hate websites and other harassing towards her? You know, it's really. That's a really good question, rosemary. I don't know, because it's a weird. They've got themselves in a weird situation right now. They're obviously doing what they're doing and it's all been documented. So if she sues them and they stop, then that makes them look like a little bitch.
Speaker 2:I was wondering what was coming there. I was like wait for it wait for it.
Speaker 1:There's no other way to say it.
Speaker 2:It's one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't. If they take it down, then they admit that it was a bunch of nonsense, which we all know it is. So it's going to set a precedent, which only time will tell what happens. But that's a great question.
Speaker 1:It is a great question and we shall see, but I don't think they have. And we shall see, but I don't think they have. I think they're still attacking her on X and they're still putting horrible posts up on Facebook or the Internet or wherever they put that stuff. I don't I'm not really a consumer of that nonsense. So every once in a while I'll see somebody shares or somebody's interacting with them on X shares or somebody's interacting with them on X, and then that's where I see like, oh, they're still going hard on the pavement on Leah and even though the lawsuit's happening. I mean it's sort of it's one of those things yeah, if anything.
Speaker 2:It's actually a barometer to me of how much what we're doing is something they're reacting to, because, for example, in February, when we started doing more putting out regular content, the lines that they started, the attack lines they started using, were so became so much more vicious and we were like, okay, pat on the back, let's keep on going, you're muted, you're muted.
Speaker 1:If you ain't got a hate site, you ain't doing it, right? Yeah, when you start, when you get a hate site, it's like okay, now we're making some, now we're making some progress. They know we're here, we're on the radar. So yeah, good question, rosemary, I don't know. We will keep you posted. I was 67 yesterday and I'm proud I survived this long. Okay.
Speaker 2:Nice, happy birthday.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is amazing.
Speaker 1:You know I just turned 50. I'm surprised I made it this long. I'm happy I made it this long. I had some hard. Those were some hard years on this pod. Nancy Eves Claire, your episode on cults to consciousness were epic. So much I didn't know about you, despite all the hours of watching you both Love you too, mark yeah.
Speaker 2:Thank you, nancy, appreciate it.
Speaker 1:I muted myself before because I was burping behind the scenes here without you hearing Nancy Appreciate it. I muted myself before Cause I was uh, I was burping behind the scenes here without you hearing it, and uh, and then um and then I just burped with the mic on, so it was just like whatever you know. Um, thank you for that, nancy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we thanks for watching when we do these other channels. That is true. That is another good reason that sometimes we do these other channels is because they'll ask us questions that no one's ever asked us before. So we might, you might, find out something that you don't, you didn't know from watching our channel. So, um, and then if you so, yeah, we'll tune in, we'll tell you what, what other videos or what other channels we do on other channels. Michael, for the super chat. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Um, I don't see that one. You, purplenet. There it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, see, I told you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, purplenet. Thank you, I lost your super chat. It was gone forever, but Claire found it.
Speaker 2:My neighbor said, there was a.
Speaker 1:Scientology office in Jacksonville, florida. Have you heard if there was one here? Love you guys. I've never heard of that. It might be. They sometimes have these things called missions, which is just like anyone can start a mission. You just have to buy a certain amount of books and materials and it's like it's called it's actually called a mission starter package and it's not cheap. It's like I think I want to say it's like $150,000 and you buy all these books and you buy all these materials and, um, then you can start a mission and you can start it in your living room. If you want, it can be at your house and you can just put a sign up on the door or a little, a little lawn sign that says scientology of podunk nowhere. And then people can just come to your house and timbuktu and read scientology books and then that's a mission. So they they could have something in Jacksonville. I wouldn't worry. I don't think they're getting people in Jacksonville you need? Yeah, I'm just going to leave it there. I don't think Jacksonville is their biggest place. They're going to scoop people up for Scientology Space.
Speaker 1:Cadet Brett Claire, is there a working title for your book or is it a secret? It's definitely a secret. Don't let her tell you what it is, because then OSA will make a book that calls themselves that thing. Wait, actually do we already have? We already have the ISBN? Did you already register the ISBN?
Speaker 2:No, but I can do that before our 40K party and we could announce the two working titles that I have and we can get input that would be fun.
Speaker 1:Let's do that before OSA has a chance to make a book by the name of.
Speaker 2:Claire's book. Good for us that I know how to do all of that and I've even pre-registered and done all kinds of stuff, so we'll do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, yep, space Cadet Brett tune in Stay tuned.
Speaker 2:Yes, most likely.
Speaker 1:Sunday.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:CC's Comfort Cooking.
Speaker 2:Boom CC in the house For those of you who do not know.
Speaker 1:CC's Comfort Cooking is a very, very good friend of ours and Claire did a video with her on the channel one of the Scientology stories, cindy Plehuda. If you haven't heard her story, go to the Scientology stories playlist and look for Cindy. She has a YouTube channel and it is a cooking channel and I'm did she do our famous beans recipe.
Speaker 2:yet she did. She absolutely did.
Speaker 1:This is a family, a Headley family secret beans recipe that we stole from another family and then modified.
Speaker 2:So it's been in the family for decades, just not our family, that's right.
Speaker 1:Exactly. We had this recipe at a good friend of ours house and then I was like, oh, we're definitely taking that and we're going to mix that one, do a remix on that one and make it amazing. And it was already really good, but we turned it up a notch.
Speaker 2:We made it next level.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you're into baked beans, you got to get this recipe.
Speaker 2:Even if you're not into baked beans I'm not that into beans.
Speaker 1:Me neither, actually. That's a good point.
Speaker 2:I never liked baked beans. I'm not that into beans, Me neither actually. That's a good point. I never liked baked beans.
Speaker 1:These are really, really good. I don't even think I ate baked beans. For more than a bite or two. Before I had the baked beans that we had at our friend's house, and now I've eaten bowls and bowls and probably buckets of beans by now. So if you haven't, you got to put a link. Make a note. Cc's Comfort Cooking we're going to not only we're going to put a link to her channel in the description, but we're going to put a link to that bean video in the description the family beans recipe. And if you are a true watcher of this channel and you can eat beans and the other ingredients of this, you got to make yourself these beans. They're amazing.
Speaker 2:You know what actually and she is going to be doing our Yorkshire pudding soon too.
Speaker 1:I'm going to make those beans tonight.
Speaker 2:Okay, great, I'm going to make those beans tonight. By that he means yours truly is going to be-.
Speaker 1:Nope, I already made the bacon. You're going to make them. Okay, that's true, I already made the bacon.
Speaker 2:The bacon is for sandwiches, I thought well, some of it's going to be for beans now, how about that?
Speaker 1:Okay, anyway, we'll put that in the description. Cece's comfort cooking. Get over there, hit her, hit subscribe on her channel. Um, she's trying. Um, she's trying her way on YouTube and she, to be fair, um, sydney has cooked. Um, we used to do Easter at her house and we've had dinner at her house and we've had get togethers and all sorts of parties and all, and this woman has cooked some amazing, amazing recipes.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I was the one who told her. I was like you know, you should do a channel. I mean, you're already doing the work of doing the cooking. You might as well just shoot it, and then you know, somebody else can make the recipes.
Speaker 2:Uh, japan of Green Gables says that if you make beans you're going to have to stay in the basement. Things are going to get gassy.
Speaker 1:They sure are. Purple Net says Claire's my favorite. Claire's the one who's making me stay in the basement.
Speaker 2:Purple Net I'm not you chose the basement, and you're perfectly capable of walking up the stairs. Honey, let's not make this something other than it is, oh.
Speaker 1:Ms Pillow, that's who gave us these. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm pulling up her comment. She says in re-COS behavior post Leah suit, as my pappy would say, they can't fuck up a soup sandwich. Oh, they can fuck up a soup sandwich, absolutely. That's the thing about Scientology is Dave Miscavige lives in this really odd. I was watching another channel, I can't remember which one it is right now. I wish I could remember, but he's essentially Dave Miscavige lives in a bubble and in that bubble he has a feedback loop where no one tells him no. So when he does one, he's like you know what, give me some paper or take a note and he will dictate that letter that they wrote that response to her lawsuit. He dictated that, or he might even have dictated it.
Speaker 2:Not even. Not even Corinne Powell wanted to sign that one. They were just like leave it off please. This is an abomination.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he dictated that or he said this is what we're going to say, and he just read it and then they probably workshopped that for a while, like he was probably like what do you think? What do you think? And they were like, well, sir, we should mention the fact that she is she's ridiculous, that's right Ridiculous. Put that in there, ridiculous, you know, whatever. It is Desperate, desperate, yeah, desperate, she's desperate. Put that in there, desperate. And then, and they workshop that thing, you think, like when you read that response Scient, the worst thing Like oh my gosh, why would they write that Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse.
Speaker 2:One of these days we do have to do that OSA reenactment we were talking about.
Speaker 1:Totally.
Speaker 2:How they come up with these just outrageous wacky responses. It's just insanity.
Speaker 1:It's all Dave Miscavige. And so if he writes that thing and he workshops it, he's like, oh, tell me this, and he's got people around him. Yes, sir, that's great, we love it, we love it, and then that's it. It's going out just like that.
Speaker 2:So my, my favorite part is the call that comes after the letter goes out, tom Cruise to Dave Miscavige yeah, hey, dave, did you see this piece of shit they put out? Put out. Can you believe that?
Speaker 1:He's like what and he'll pretend like he had nothing to do with it. Osa's so incompetent. Osa's so incompetent.
Speaker 2:They're going to the RPF.
Speaker 1:If you guys haven't heard this story, it's exactly what Claire's saying is exactly true. David Miscavige micromanaged every single possible step of the blockbuster film Battlefield earth starring john travolta he micromanaged basement right block he managed raspberry award-winning battlefield earth.
Speaker 1:He micromanaged every single step of that movie. John John Travolta was a bit player at best in the production of that movie. The production company that John Travolta was part of, um, that invested money and and and eventually went bankrupt due to that movie. Um had very little say in what happened to that movie. David Miscavige was the, was the basically the battlefield earth czar. He dictated every single part of that movie and when it was done he said this to the seer members at the international base maybe possibly the best movie ever made. That's what david miscavige said of battlefield earth.
Speaker 1:If you haven't seen Battlefield Earth, it's definitely not Don't. It is definitely not the best movie ever made. It is arguably the most amazingly horrible movie ever made and if you watch it you should watch it for free somewhere because it's amazingly horrible. But when Tom Cruise saw the movie and then called Dave and said, dave, what the hell with this battlefield earth? And Dave, in a second, without missing a beat, said I know John Travolta, that out ethics. And he said sea sucker, that out ethics, sea sucker. And he blamed, he threw John Travolta right under the bus. He was driving the bus, he bought the bus, he designed the bus. He drove it right over John Travolta.
Speaker 2:He did target practice beforehand. That's how much he did.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So yes, very good, ms Pillow, you absolutely captured it. The other one is they couldn't. They couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the directions were on the heel. I think that's the other sailing.
Speaker 2:I haven't heard that one. That's a good one. I like that.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay, destiny Salazar, you both are such a great example of how to stand tall. See what I did there. In the face of absolutely absurd gaslighting and abuse. You are here. Thank you for everything. Keep fighting. Thank you, destiny. We appreciate it, we're not. You know, claire does have X-Men superpowers. I don't think I mean she can run up a hill, Seriously.
Speaker 2:Well, you have your own superpowers, oh, pat Shields. They just don't include running up a hill, pat.
Speaker 1:Shields knew. She said she teed that one up. She said so. Sorry, claire, that was the. That was the, the viewer from Saskatchewan.
Speaker 2:I know, I know, I remember. Thanks, pat, it's okay, I forgive you. I, you know, I've got broad shoulders.
Speaker 1:I can laugh at myself too. It's perfectly fine with me. Yeah, oh good, here's one from Clearwater, chad. Anyone that wants to start an SPTV channel can dip their toes in on my pre-show every Monday. Yeah, exactly, there's a lot of channels that you can just go on and cut your teeth on those channels and see how they do it. And, and a lot of the channels are sharing tips and trip tips.
Speaker 2:Tips and tricks.
Speaker 1:Tips and tricks. That's the one. I knew the. My brain knew the words, but my mouth didn't want to play.
Speaker 2:Hannah. I'm trying to get Hannah Elringham-Whitfield to join SPTV Nation. She's definitely going to be an amazing addition.
Speaker 1:She does great interviews, she's so well-spoken.
Speaker 1:And she also I don't know how she I mean, I remember a lot of stuff from the eighties and the nineties and the two thousands, but she's she's recounting stories from the fifties and sixties. In some of these videos that Claire's done with her and she's talking about, they went here and then L Ron Hubbard said this, and then we had to go here and then we did that and you know it's a great. I thought I don't know what it is, but in the Sea Org everything has to be so detailed oriented and you're going to get in trouble no matter which way you do it. So you really have to think a lot about what you do and what you say and who you say it to and who's there. And so, oddly enough, in most of the times where these crazy stories happen, you remember everything that's happening around you and who was there and what was said, because there's almost like a forensic investigation that happens in some of these things and they're asking you okay, what did you say? Okay, good, then what did you say? Okay, who? Who was the one that was talking about COB? And then who was this and who said that and who said this? And then you get sex checked after that and then you have to say it all over again. So a lot of these things. We've been over it many, many times. So we know what happened.
Speaker 1:Pamela Chambers, I think a bunch of your subscribers should send Davey custom onesies with sayings like Xenu is my homeboy, or Rosa smells like poo oh no. Them onesies with sayings like Xenu is my homeboy, or Osa smells like poo oh no. Just wearing them is good enough. Because I guarantee you, david Miscavige snuck out to the movies. He sneaks out to the movies in Clearwater and he goes to restaurants. He goes places under the radar and that somebody's kind of scoped out beforehand. And you know he's hanging out with tom cruise doing stuff, with tom going to football games in england and you know, going snowmobiling in alaska. He's doing stuff. He goes out. He's not always locked up in his little bunker in florida, but, um, when he goes out and he sees somebody wearing a xenu as my homeboy hoodie um, if you want to see a tantrum, that's when a tantrum is going to happen. When he gets back to the Sea Org base, wherever he's at, and he's like they're selling. They're selling hoodies over there on YouTube.
Speaker 1:You know, no one's going to tell him that if he sees one, oh boy, is he going to find out? Alex Jackson, many years ago I was an extra in a documentary called the history of education uh, director and nearly all crew were scientologists. Do you know anything about it? Um, it was actually called alex, it was called the history of man or the. It was called man the unfathomable. Um, and maybe there was there was a, maybe they did one you say many years ago, you have to say a date when I was there, um, we changed the names of all of the films we were doing to stupid things like the history of education or whatever, and then it was really called man the unfathomable or problems of life. Oh yeah, we didn't use the real name in the permits and in all the things, because people would be like you can't, because the names were ridiculous.
Speaker 1:You could never put that out. People would be man the unfathomable, so but we called them other things and then-.
Speaker 2:Use of a doll in auditing and TR.
Speaker 1:Exactly, you can't make that the name for the casting call. People are like use of a doll in auditing and tr. Exactly, you can't make that the name of for the casting call. People are like use of a doll. What are you guys?
Speaker 2:doing over there. That's super bizarre, and you also don't want professional actors to know what nonsense they were performing in. Right, you're muted again sorry I was drinking.
Speaker 1:Sorry, alex, if you could say when and what, go into Blown for Good contact page and send us a thing. If you know the date and where you went, I can tell you if it was me and my crew, or which crew it was, or which crew it likely was, if it was after my time. Thanks for that, though. Yeah, we shot many a thing. We shot a lot at this. Abandoned or not abandoned. It was a decommissioned Air Force base in California. It was Norton Air Force Base. It's now actually called Ontario International Airport, but it used to be an Air Force base, and right after the Air Force decommissioned it they donated part of it to an Indian reservation and Scientology rented a portion of the base that had this giant bunker in it from the reservation and we shot movies in it, and we did that for many, many years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, speaking of which, we've got to get something on the calendar of you and Mitch comparing a creation of cult movie stories. That will be fun.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I want to just do every movie we shot with Mitch. Just make one video for each excuse me for each movie and just tell all our crazy stories from that movie, like a making of a making of review.
Speaker 2:That would be so awesome.
Speaker 1:Yes, and we did about 30 films together, so we've got lots of stories. Lots of content Each one of those took either a month to three to four to five, and included several trips to being restricted to the base and physical abuse.
Speaker 1:Sleeping above a hallway or under my desk or somewhere behind a set. Evelyn, thank you for the super chat. I'm trying to rip through the rest of these questions and super chats Free Xenu Project. You have to see Battlefield Earth, rift Tracks. That is absolutely something. Just go to YouTube and say Battlefield Earth, rift Tracks and it is pretty much. If you've seen the movie it's funny, but if you haven't, it's still funny. But yes, rift Trax is hilarious. I think DM David Miscavige may have lost his calling in slapstick movies. Yeah, yeah, he missed his calling. He missed his calling for sure. They probably just didn't even see him. They were calling his name and he was just so small. They just didn't see him. They were calling his name and he was just so small. I just didn't see him.
Speaker 2:He was right there, him and Marty would have made a great Laurel and Hardy.
Speaker 1:They really would have Jim's. Jm Stevens too, says I'm still catching up. What about little captain Davy? Troll of the board. Hi, Osa, that's great as well. All suggestions are welcomed. Michael Oldham says crazy videos from Reese on Aaron's channel recording Scientologist pumping him for info before they kicked her out. Yeah, that's another thing. He's bringing up a great point. So, Michael Oldham, I think he's referring to. So there's a gal, there's a woman on Aaron's channel that she was calling him and giving him info about people that were in Scientology.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and she has her own channel now. Relatable Reese, Reese Quibble.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Well, aaron was showing something on his phone. Somehow he either showed something on his phone or he pulled something up and her name was in his phone as somebody he had talked to and it just flashed for a second. Yep, but they knew now this Reese person was somebody that was talking to him and they Scientologists. I don't know why.
Speaker 1:Scientologists don't understand how the world works, but Scientologists have been calling her and talking to her for hours on end, admitting to all these things that Reese is talking about, about assaults that are happening and just illegal activities. They're talking about it and corroborating it and admitting that it happened in phone calls with her. Now she lives in a one party state so she can record phone calls all day long. The Scientologist does not. So if they're recording the call which most likely if OSA's involved and there's a Scientologist involved, they're most likely recording the call. But she did record it and now they're just playing them on YouTube and they're just going through the whole entire conversation, multiple conversations.
Speaker 1:So Scientologists are and Reese also was another one of these people. She don't want anything to do with Scientology, so when they told her she was getting declared, it was almost like okay, like yeah, whoop-dee-doo and I mean I don't think, I mean I don't. I'm sure it might not have been the most convenient thing in her life to happen, but she's sort of like I'm done, I don't care about Scientology and her old. This person that's calling her from Scientology is like, well, we've got to figure out how we're going to handle this and how we're going to solve this, and she's like it's solved. I don't want anything to do with you guys. I'm good and they're trying to figure out, just keeping her talking and meanwhile the person's just Reese is just laying the rope out and they're just stringing themselves up full time.
Speaker 2:Reese is getting the last laugh. That's for darn sure Way to go, reese, yeah.
Speaker 1:Apostate Alex says order merch, 15 random people get a free AF t-shirt. What, what's he talking about? I'm not sure On his channel.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm not sure what he. I think we missed some context, alex, so maybe you can fill us in on what this is about. Hopefully, everyone knows what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:Alex is giving away merch over on his channel. Get over there if you want something. Bgfc did DM live off 45 a week before LRH died. I'm wondering if his personality was different when he was not superior to every other CEO member. You know, that's funny. No, he, as soon as David Miscavige sort of had some power he actually before he was chairman of the board RTC, he was chairman of the board ASI and that's authored sir author services, which is the company that manages L Ron Hubbard's money and all his books and royalties and all that sort of stuff. And David Miscavige lost $30 million of L Ron Hubbard's money $30 million. He basically donated it to an oil well scam he bought, donated it to um an oil well scam. He. He bought, he bought, I guess, a whole bunch of oil wells in like Oklahoma or something like that that did not exist and the $30 million was just poof gone.
Speaker 1:And what David Miscavige did was he got this um, he got this idea to have, uh, this artist I think his name was, name was Frank Frazetta. He's a popular science fiction artist, very like space opera, space opera, you know, basically soft core images that he would paint for science fiction. I'm telling it like it is here, folks. I'm telling it like it is here, folks. And they did a bunch of limited edition prints of these Frank Frazetta things and they charged $10,000, $5,000, $15,000 for these paintings. And then they did leather-bound editions of Battlefield Earth and leather-bound editions of Mission Earth and they sold them earth and and they sold them and they, they basically got back that 30 million and put it back in the account so that LF L Ron Hubbard went back and looked, he would see that that 30 million was still there. So they did a. They did a a lot of work to put that money back before LRH noticed that there was $30 million missing.
Speaker 2:Yep, oopsie. Oh, by the way, I started a comment from apostate Alex that explains his um. There you go.
Speaker 1:Alex says I will donate $2, $200 towards aftermath promote t-shirts given as random free gifts to people who order on blown for good. Apostate Alex and SP shop in the next 24 hours First come, first serve. 15 t-shirts total. Nice, okay, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:So the next 15 people that order on his or ours or SP shop, they'll get a Aftermath promo shirt. That's cool.
Speaker 1:Thanks, Apostate Alex we appreciate it, but how are we going to give away Aftermath promo t-shirts?
Speaker 2:Well, I think he's saying that he'll provide the Aftermath promo shirts. Oh, does he have Aftermath?
Speaker 1:promo shirts. Oh, does he have Aftermath? Promo shirts.
Speaker 2:He said earlier that he would be more than happy to make some, so oh, okay, we'll figure out the details behind the scenes.
Speaker 1:I'm not exactly sure how, um I mean. Thank you, alex, we appreciate all the support, but, um, yeah, we can do it before the show as well. We can work out some of these things. We don't have to do it mid-show.
Speaker 1:Alex says documentary was something else. So sneaky. My scene was in South LA at a school. It was full school shooting. I died in it. I'll write you, wow. So yeah, that was definitely after I left and that's absolutely something Scientology does. Something that Scientology loves to do is they take whatever is happening in the zeitgeist and they try to capture it and make it into something that's going to benefit Scientology. So, of course, they're now doing a. They're doing school shooting videos to show how their form of education is going to work. And, yeah, I think Liz Gale would would would be able to tell you some stories of how their Scientology education went and how it didn't work out totally for their family the way Scientology said it would work out. Yeah, kimberly Stovall says watched CC's video of the beans while watching this live Now I want beans, kimberly. Wow, live now I want beans.
Speaker 2:Kimberly. Now I want beans. Okay, the way to multitask do. Yeah, by the way, Vincent giggles.
Speaker 1:Mark, do you have an? And I and I, I get it. I detec memory also. Happy anniversary, love seeing you both on lives. I don't know what I detec means, because I didn't go to school, but I do have a sort of a photographic memory of sorts. If I have seen somebody in person or in a movie or in any sort of function and I see that person again, it doesn't matter when or what they look like. It's weird. Claire can attest to this. It is very freaky.
Speaker 2:Just so you don't have a misunderstood word honey.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I don't want to go past one of those. It's a psychology term.
Speaker 2:I mean it's relating to or denoting mental images having unusual vividness and detail, as if actually visible.
Speaker 1:Yes, I do have that. Thank you, I thought it was photographic memory, but I guess I got that too. I've got GPS, I've got eidetic, I've got photograph.
Speaker 2:All of that.
Speaker 1:I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2:Facial recognition software Facial recognition built in Okay.
Speaker 1:Does Jenna have more subscribers with no content on YouTube than Davey has supporters?
Speaker 2:I really think she does no questions, she definitely does. I really think she does no question, she definitely does. Thank you, duchess Diana. That is a very good point. She's winning the Miscavige family game at this point in a major way.
Speaker 1:Julie, her old boss. Another saying from her old boss my old boss used to say you're no one darling until you have enemies. Yes, that's exactly In the COS world. You are definitely someone. That's exactly right. If you don't have a hate site, you ain't doing it right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I heard that they were while I was on my sabbatical, of sorts we can call it, in my prison, my cage, I heard that there was some drama.
Speaker 1:There was some drama going on with people attacking the new SPTV channels. That's 100% OSA. That's a total OSA op. And if it's not OSA, why would you do it? There's no real reason for someone who's not OSA to attack an SPTV channel like, especially a new, a new, like a new person that doesn't really have a dog in this fight. They just want to be part of the gang and have a channel and do fun videos and stuff like that, and then OSA starts attacking them. Yeah, that's 100%, um OSA.
Speaker 2:So if the people that if it looks like OSA acts like OSA does the work of OSA, whatever, who cares, Move along folks. Let's stay focused and on target.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, denver, steve-o says OSA smells like poo hoodies. Out now, zinu, is my Headley stuff soon at my place Caught Dom. I don't know what's going on. I don't know, I don't, you know. This is what happens. These the comments. Fyi, great couples, remember two plus our new one, jeff and Reese Q Bell, nice.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:Oh, I didn't know there's a Jeff yeah.
Speaker 2:Reese is married to Jeff.
Speaker 1:And he's doing the channel too.
Speaker 2:I'm not so I yeah, rhys is married to Jeff and he's doing the channel too. I'm not, so I'm not totally up on all the latest.
Speaker 1:Either way.
Speaker 2:I think he's been on there sometimes, but I don't think he was ever in Scientology, which is awesome. Hats off to Jeff, because it takes a special person to stick through all this nonsense. Yeah, galia Sinatra, I just want to hear Mark try to pronounce my name thank you, I feel, I feel vindicated.
Speaker 1:Galia sinatra doesn't matter, you're okay, I just want to hear mark try to pronounce my name. Well, I did it twice. Hopefully I did it right. I don't know. Yeah, I mean saskatchewan. Come on, there's, just's just Saskatchewan. Oh, my goodness, I almost jumped into the computer screen. I was like what Saskatchewan Patty B says say goodnight Claire, said George, goodnight Claire, said Gracie. That's what he would say. Say goodnight Gracie and she'd say goodnight Gracie.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, Patty B, thank you for that. Space Cadet Brett, do you think anyone has ever tried to leave Scientology by changing their identity? I've never heard of that, but I have heard and this has actually happened. I think we might have even talked about it. Scientology changed identities of people in Scientology so their parents couldn't find them.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:That's happened. That is a real thing they do in there. That's happened. That is a real thing they do in there.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. Did you see, whitney come? You did one time meet somebody in the in the aisle of Home Depot, and they were wearing a full on wig.
Speaker 1:Well, that is true, we have we have we did have meet up with somebody who had, who had recently escaped, and we switched vehicles and I met him in the plumbing aisle of Home Depot and he was like the keys are in the two inch pipes and I was like okay. And I looked over and I was like oh my God, he was wearing a whole fro. I was like, oh dude, okay, here's my keys. Let's not be this. Is you're going way overboard with this. Did you see? Whitney Cummings said she was on a mission to find shelly even got a bus, love you guys. I didn't see that. I'll look at that. There's a lot of comedians that have been throwing um shade. Thank you for that nuts and board. Um, I'll have to. I'll have to check that out. Um, there is.
Speaker 1:I was watching this show. I was watching this show. It's called the Y-Files or just Y-Files, w-h-y-files. It's a guy with a goldfish called the hecklefish and he just it's kind of got weird stuff. I don't even know how I ended up watching the guy's video. I don't even know where it came from. It showed up in my feed Probably because I got lots of Scientology nonsense on my feed. This guy's video came up in my feed. Anyway, I was watching a video or two of him and then, just in the middle of one of the videos, he just went on a rant about Scientology and the fish bleeped him saying the word Scientology, the fish. The fish was like don't talk about them, their lawyers are watching and I was like, wow, even the goldfish knows to watch out for Scientology. Anyway, since I heard of Dave's dolls, I like to call him Puppet Boy. I like that Freezino project.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1:Puppet Boy. We're going to add that to the list.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we are right now. Thank you.
Speaker 1:Puppet Boy. Like I said, all the names are great. I don't know why we can't. This has been a thing that could just be. Somebody had a bad idea to call something the only one thing If there's 10 good names for it, let's call it all 10 good names, right, and we just refer to it by all those names.
Speaker 2:You can identify your doll with whichever name you like the best. That's right and we put it in the store.
Speaker 1:We'll list all the names in the store, all the different names that it has. We will list it by all. We could even just make multiple items of the same thing. We could have one that just says what I even troll of the board troll. But what did the guy? Just go Puppet boy It'll have the price. And then another one will say troll the hole and it'll have the price. It'll be the same doll, it'll just be multiple listings. I love it, we're doing it, thank you, all right, bo Explores.
Speaker 2:Love y'all Cold.
Speaker 1:Thank you, bo. We love it. Thank you, appreciate it. Super sticker from Denise L. Thank you, denise. Mickey, great couples, remember two plus.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I did that one Rain virus. What OSA does to couples is very much like the Gary Newman song. My name is ruin, oh ruin, but you say you spell it rain no rain virus is who is?
Speaker 2:who wrote this comment? But it says my name is ruin no, he's rain is saying there's a gary newman song, my name is ruin, and that's what osa does to couples which, by the way, rain virus made me this. Thank you, rain virus. I'm pretty sure I got that right. Okay, well way, rain virus made me this. Thank you, rain virus. I'm pretty sure I got that right.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, thank you, rain virus, I appreciate it. Lauren S says Claire, you look gorgeous tonight. Miss seeing the lives you would have. Aaron with Aaron. Have an awesome weekend you too. Yeah, aaron has got like I think he's got like 175,000 subscribers. Now he's slaying it over there, but, yeah, we haven't been doing lives. I think Claire's the only person is Amy. Right, you've been doing lives with Amy, that's about it.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, was Mark's auditing by TC included in his free letter debt? No, they conveniently left that off the list. So not only was he a shitty auditor, but it wasn't even worth charging me for it.
Speaker 2:That's how bad it was Because it was student auditing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, it was student auditing. I don't think you can charge for that.
Speaker 2:No, you can't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there you go, patty B. Thank you, patty B, ash Holecraft. Can Amy Scobie play Miscavige in the Osa reenactment? I love her and Claire's videos so much. Those two are great. Mark, I guess you're okay too. Oh, I know, don't. I know it Chump Change Express over here. I can't even get one video in on my own channel anymore. Oh, sorry, I didn't see you there, babe, skipper of the land whoopettes great thank you for your courage.
Speaker 1:I felt hopeless when a friend spiraled down the scientology toilet bowl several years ago. I support your mission. Yeah, it is a bummer we do have people watching the channel. Are you doing that?
Speaker 2:no I didn't do that Was not me.
Speaker 1:We got body things in here. Yeah, we do have a lot of people in here that have family members or friends that also joined Scientology and they're trying to figure out what Scientology is all about. So they can get them out or something like that. If you know somebody that you want to find out about, send us an email or go to the Blown For Good contact page at blownforgoodcom and send us a thing. If we know where they are, we'll try to track them down. And if you want us to put the word out on the lives, we'll ask on the lives. We usually try to find out kind of behind the scenes about that sort of thing, because if we ask on the live, your person's gonna get lit up if they're still in there. But if we ask kind of around the whisper web and if we ask the people that are still in that talk to us, we can ask them to kind of poke around and see what they know.
Speaker 1:Ola says I live 10 minutes from the Swiss org. By the way, it's not Zurich. I have a hoodie from Aaron with your faces. I'm going there wearing it soon. Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2:That's fun. Nice, that's awesome. We love that.
Speaker 1:That's always good. S D, a, f, c 88 super sticker. Thank you for that. Wow, we got. We did it. Guys late to the show, just want to say hello, mark Fisher.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much for joining us.
Speaker 1:We just bought my hail Zinu shirt. Love you guys. Thank you, mandy, appreciate it. And then another super sticker for Mark Fisher. Thank you guys. Oh my God, that was a marathon two 20.
Speaker 2:Thank you for yeah.
Speaker 1:Thank you for everybody who tuned in. What do we need to do something else?
Speaker 2:We were just going to end with a giveaway.
Speaker 1:We're going to end with a giveaway. We're going to end with a giveaway, yeah, awesome, okay. So somebody said Norton airface or became San Bernardino. He's right. Norton air force base became San Bernardino international airport, not Ontario. You're exactly right. We used to go to Ontario airport If we had to. We couldn't, we didn't. We used to go to Ontario airport if we had to, we couldn't, we didn't. Have time to go to LAX. That's why I got confused. But yes, norton Air Force Is San Bernardino International Airport, a real thing, like it did. It actually is doing international flights. We always joke like, oh my God, they're never going to do international flights.
Speaker 2:Probably I believe it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:They had big runways because it used to be Air Force, so they could pretty much land any plane there.
Speaker 2:Yep. But- 105 North Leland Norton Way, San Bernardino is the SBD International Airport.
Speaker 1:There you go, sbd.
Speaker 2:SBD.
Speaker 1:Did Mark see the Where's Shelly Milk carton? Michelle Carpenter.
Speaker 2:Oh, Michelle, I'll show him. He's been gone, obviously.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she doesn't show me anything either. I don't get to see it. Hey, now my cage doesn't even have windows in it. It's all bars and no windows.
Speaker 2:Mark is not a big fan of backstory, as he calls it.
Speaker 1:Oh, what if TC's stupid movie stunts fails one of these days? How do you think DM will handle that? Oh, DM will just pick up another TC. He doesn't give a shit. He talks so much smack about Tom Cruise and he did so many things that a real friend would not do to Tom Cruise. It's so weird that Tom Cruise thinks that he doesn't backstab him every chance he gets. Yep, and I don't know about Tom, but they start spreading these rumors. You'll see this every time the movies want to make some money. They say that Tom Cruise is leaving Scientology. He's never leaving. Dave would really have to do something really crazy to get him to leave. And if he leaves, Scientology is done for. So Dave will do everything in his powers to keep Tom in his pocket. But the Paramount and the different production companies trying to push these movies when they want to sell some movies they got to leak some Scientology is losing Tom Cruise stories to the tabloids.
Speaker 2:It's so ridiculous. It's like really you've got nothing more creative.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, are we going to do a giveaway?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think we have a few last comments and then we're doing a giveaway. It looks like there's two last ones and then we can go.
Speaker 1:Joni says I just wanted to say hi, hi.
Speaker 2:Joni Hi, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1:Okay, did that one, okay. And then Misha Misha, misha Seeks says new merch idea Tom Cruise made me an SP. I love it, I love it.
Speaker 2:Great, awesome, all right, now we can do a giveaway.
Speaker 1:Okay, thank you for the comments, guys. Thank you for everybody who tuned in tonight. We got about 1600 people in here right now. Who wants something? Who wants something? We're going to go in the comments and if you write that you want something in the comments, we might give you something in the comments. Yep, let's see here. Angie English, nice. Hey, angie, get some merch.
Speaker 2:Perfect.
Speaker 1:So Angie just go to Karen Radford. You get something too. There you go, so you got it, and Deviant Outcast. Okay, perfect, there you go, so you got it, and Deviant Outcast.
Speaker 2:Okay, perfect.
Speaker 1:BFG merch would make my life. Okay, you guys need to all. Claire wrote down the usernames. You guys got to go to the BFG contact page and send Claire your info or a link to what merch you'd like. And you're good you get it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's in fact include the link, because then you don't have to send me your address or anything else size nothing. Just send me the link from our merch store and then I can create a giveaway link and send it right back.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's awesome. Oh, so you don't even need their info. They literally you can send them a link and they can just get it.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Love it and they can just get it. Yep, love it, yep. Okay, guys, we did it. I'm back. Ain't you not going to get me back into the cage, okay?
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness, I'm never going to live this down.
Speaker 1:We're going to do.
Speaker 2:They're going to start a free mark.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:Free Zinu and free Mark.
Speaker 1:Free Mark. No, zinu's free. We're good. We've been making plans, me and Zinu. Thank you for everybody who tuned in. If you haven't subscribed, please subscribe. We're going to do something new. I'm going to try to have it ready for Sunday, but we're going to put songs at the end of our videos. Okay, and I don't exactly know how I'm going to do this, but we're going to try to do it for this next video on Sunday. And so right now there is one SPTV blown for good fan that has sent me, I'm going to say, 25 songs.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:At least. So I'm going to put his songs to video and we're going to put them at the end of our videos. I'm not. I'm not going to be the first to say they ain't my type of songs, I would not listen to these songs, but he's the only one sending me songs and he sent me a lot, so I feel, and the lyrics on on these are very creative.
Speaker 1:They are funny and I will see if I can put the lyrics on. We'll put them in the description. We'll figure out a way to do it, or maybe we'll just put them up on the screen or something. I don't know. We have to figure out exactly how we're going to do this. But if you want your song at the end of one of our videos, then you got to send us a song and it can't be copyrighted stuff. This guy there's no way. This guy stole any from from anybody. He has a unique style. So he's probably going to get at least 20 videos worth of his songs put on, because I haven't gotten anybody else.
Speaker 1:So if you've if, if somebody else has got some silliness that they want to send us in music form to put on the end of the videos. We're going to start I'm literally going to just start editing them and tagging them to the end of videos that we do and even the lives when we do a live. I'm going to load up the video and I'm going to put it on and it's going to play for 10 minutes after the video is over and I guarantee you that this guy, he's going to lock up the content for a while just because he sent so much stuff. Yeah, so that's something else we're going to do. I love that you guys tuned in.
Speaker 1:Thanks for all 1,500 of you guys. I hope some of you got some merch. For those of you guys, I hope some of you got some merch. For those of you didn't, you can head over to the Blown for Good merch store in the description and get something. But yeah, I'm glad to be back and until next time, and then that's where I push this outro thing.
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