Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed
Marc Headley worked at Scientology’s secret desert compound, which houses all Scientology management, for 15 years. The 500-acre property is located deep in the California desert. The local townspeople were told lectures and films were made there. But is that all that was happening? It is the location of a multi-million dollar home for L. Ron Hubbard, built two decades after his death. It is the home of Scientology’s current leader, David Miscavige. So what really happens at the Int Base? Are the stories on the internet true? How does Scientology conduct management of its day-to-day operations? Could stories of armed guards, weapons, staff beatings, and razor wire fences be true? If so, how could a facility like this exist in modern-day America? Hundreds of staff tried to escape over the years. Some succeeded but were never seen or heard of again, and most failed. Why were people kept here? What really went on at the headquarters of Scientology? This is the story of what happened behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology.
Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed
Beyond Space Cooties: Tom Cruise's Alien Problem - Scientology Q&A #42
We catch up with our community after a busy summer filled with family adventures, travel, and major progress with the Aftermath Foundation. Our oldest son graduated high school in May, our middle son is now a junior, and our youngest just started middle school – milestones that feel particularly meaningful given our own disrupted educations in Scientology.
• Sharing photos from our summer travel including Portland, Las Vegas, and Denver
• Updates on the Aftermath Foundation's approval for a second year in the Combined Federal Campaign
• Development of a dedicated law enforcement crisis line for potential Scientology victims
• Claire's upcoming series "Life After Scientology" focusing on recovery resources and experiences
• Plans for a second series about kids in cults and the lasting impact of childhood indoctrination
• Discussion about Tom Cruise's involvement with Scientology and its bizarre alien beliefs
• Insights on Delphi schools as Scientology's educational indoctrination system
• Information about Serge Obolensky's progress and achievements since leaving Scientology
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Hey guys, welcome back to the channel. Got Claire here.
Speaker 2:Hello everybody, Thanks for joining us. It has been a minute, hasn't it honey?
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, we've been so, so busy We've been. This has been. I want to say this has been one of the busiest summers we've had in a long long time. Just all the stuff that's traveling and work and vacations and trips and you name it. It's been. We've been very, very busy and we got the kids are back, uh, getting back into school, and, um, we've got work stuff kind of smoothing out and moving forward.
Speaker 1:So we figured, hey, what the heck let's, uh, let's fire up and, uh, do another live. We haven't done a, we haven't done a live in months and months and months and, um, we have a podcast, the bone for good podcast that is. It comes, that's been coming out every single week. Um, we've never, ever, I don't think we've missed any weeks on the podcast. It's pretty much every single week. We have one or two episodes and I was listening to one of the episodes to get it ready and, um, I remembered we used to do we would just talk, have a chat, talk about whatever's going on, and people send us pictures of bobbleheads or Davy dolls or whatever, and, um, people to ask questions about things.
Speaker 1:We'd answer the questions and then we give, give, uh, give away some books or some SP dolls or you know whatever they are, and um, and it was really fun, and we actually we have a lot of fun doing it and um, and so we were talking this week and, and it was like you know what, let's, we have a lot of fun doing it, and so we were talking this week and it was like you know what we should do one?
Speaker 1:We should just do one on Sunday. And the other funny thing that reminded me was that every once in a while, all of the comments that people make on videos on a YouTube channel, they just aggregate to one thing that just says comments and it says which video it was. But every once in a while there'll just be a comment on there that says California, modesto, france. It's just a random country, because when we're doing these videos, at the beginning a lot of these were like hey, tell us where you're from, tell us where you're listening, or tell us where you're watching from tonight or today or this morning or wherever it is where you are. And so every once in a while, somebody will do that, even though the video aired a year ago, somebody just right in there, france.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, I just love hearing where people are tuning in from. It's just, you know, it's enjoyable for me personally. But yes, it's been a very busy summer. We've had so many people reaching out saying when are you coming back? When are you coming back? So thank you all for being patient and thanks for joining us today. We just really appreciate it. We have learned that time not only doesn't stand still, it seems to go faster and faster the older we get, and our motto in our family is work hard, play harder Right. So while our kids are still here, we make every effort to spend time with them and enjoy them. And you know, our oldest son graduated high school in May, which boy that took me a bit to process. So yeah, our middle son is now a junior in high school. Our youngest just started his first day of middle school last week. I'm like, wow, we are getting old honey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, do you want to show those pictures? We have some pictures. Yes, we just picked a few here.
Speaker 2:Well, hold on, hold on. Before you do that, let's just give a shout out to some of the people that have said where they're joining us from. Oh, yeah, so here we have Betsy Sue. Just call me Betsy. Greetings from Myrtle Beach, south Carolina. I'll be watching from work. Thank you, betsy Sue, it's so good to see you. And we have Nicholas Hall. Bfg is back. Hello from France. There you go.
Speaker 1:See Frenchies are shouting out in the chat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and our dear friend Phil Jones joining us from Canada. Hey, phil, good to see you here. Thank you so much for being here. And another dear friend, mike Rinder, wow.
Speaker 1:Hey.
Speaker 2:Mike Sending all the healing vibes I have.
Speaker 1:Let me put one up here.
Speaker 2:Okay, oh, helen from have a Hill I hope I'm saying that right Massachusetts.
Speaker 1:Yay, thanks for being here, she commented earlier.
Speaker 2:this is her first live, so yay.
Speaker 1:Nice, look at this, we've got here. Let me grab the controls here. We've got here, let me. Let me grab the controls here. We've got Jacob Jacob, harkey Jacob.
Speaker 2:Harkey, here from Monrovia, california. Good to see you, jacob.
Speaker 1:I hope you're still enjoying your SP bracelet. Yeah, he was sending us fun videos. Like when we first started the channel. Jacob was sending us stuff and we've had lots of fun back and and forth from him. And look, denver steve.
Speaker 2:Greetings from the school's parking lot I know exactly where you are denver um visited that parking lot many a time. You know that's where we get our crickets from.
Speaker 1:Pet smart um yeah look at this hello from toronto where I'm visiting my son. I live in putacanta, dominican republic.
Speaker 2:Oh, we've been there many a times, many a time. I think we've only been there once, honey.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Punta Canta.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we went there once.
Speaker 1:You're right.
Speaker 2:I know I'm right.
Speaker 1:We've been to a bunch of other places in Dominican.
Speaker 2:Republic? Yes, we have.
Speaker 1:That's what I meant where we've been a bunch of times.
Speaker 2:Okay, but yeah, we did get to go one time to Punta Cana on a work trip. Yes, oh my God.
Speaker 1:What do they have that stuff there, Jasmine? What's that stuff there you guys have got in Punta Cana?
Speaker 2:The.
Speaker 1:Mama, juana Mama.
Speaker 2:Juana, yeah, it's like some special concoction that's supposed to produce multiple children. That's how I remember it anyway.
Speaker 1:Maybe I'm wrong. I don't remember the exact name of it. I think it's like Mama Juana or something like that, but all of the locals make the joke that there's a lot of kids that are made when people drink. That because Mama Juana, and that's what they said. Okay, yes, anyway, let's do a few more. This is fun. I like this. We've got Annapolis, maryland. Oh, dr X.
Speaker 2:Oh right, hello Dr X and hello Maria Very nice to see you both here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're going to show some pictures that Dr X sent us near the end of the video, lots of fun pics that she sent in from some trips that she went on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I will comment. Maria sent me an amazing email. I was so deeply moved by it and she without giving any specifics or anything because I'm not, I didn't talk to her about that, but it just outlined the importance of the work that we do in terms of educating people on the abuses of Scientology, the practice of disconnection and some of the similarities of disconnection in other high control groups, and some of the advice and, you know, direction that we've been able to come up with. That is sometimes helpful not always, but sometimes helpful. Anyway, thank you, maria for sharing that with me. It meant a lot to me.
Speaker 1:Yes, absolutely. There's Catherine saying hi to Dr X as well.
Speaker 2:Yay and Catherine, thank you for joining us, Our amazing steadfast mod. Sorry we've been so absent, but here we are now. Better late than never.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's pronounced.
Speaker 2:Haverill Haverill.
Speaker 1:Haverill, haverill. Okay, there you go. I'll put a few more up and then we'll start going here.
Speaker 2:Launch into it. Valerie Smith from Northern California. Thanks for being here, valerie, purple, purple, groovy 69, that's a familiar name. Thanks for being here. Greetings everyone from st louis, missouri, was it? Yep um hayley grace? Hello from annapolis, maryland zin hood. Hi, I'm from the netherlands, currently enjoying the holidays in Czech Republic. Nice, very cool. Enjoy your holidays.
Speaker 1:Awesome, okay, cool. So then you want to show the pictures. Is that what we're?
Speaker 2:doing. Yes, yes, let's do this. So we decided to just share a little bit of our family fun from this summer. Like I said, our kids are not wasting time growing up, so just for some fun, all right. So this was um us at the Portland airport. We made uh, this was my first trip to Portland and Grayson's first trip to Portland. Uh, we flew there to attend Catherine and John's wedding. Congratulations, catherine and John, thank you so much for letting us be part of your celebration. That was amazing. And here we are, of course, beautiful, beautiful state.
Speaker 2:And after that we zipped down for a work trip for Mark to Las Vegas. Our youngest came along with us and we had the chance to meet up with and have dinner with Janice Grady and Mark Fisher. Oh, catherine, thanks for coming. Absolutely our pleasure. We would not have missed it for the world. Okay, this was in Denver, casa Bonita. If you're not a Denver local, you may or may not have heard of it. It has some notoriety. I'm sure Denver Steve-O will likely pipe in about this, but the creators of South Park purchased this and completely renovated it, certainly improved. You don't have to walk through sticky layers of honey anymore when you go into the restaurant and you know it's decent, it's an experience, let's say.
Speaker 1:It is. If you're in Denver, you got to just at least go. It's not like the best Mexican food in the entire universe. It's really really good now. It's better than it was before. I don't know about really really good, but it's good.
Speaker 2:Don't ask for a side of guacamole yeah.
Speaker 1:Anyway, we like to support the South Park team, so we go. Whenever somebody comes that hasn't been here and they haven't been, we'll take them.
Speaker 2:What's rather unusual about Casa Bonita is you have to have a reservation now, since they reopened, and it takes about six months to get that, so you have to be patient. So if you're coming, just give us a heads up.
Speaker 1:We usually have one in the pipe, though we always reserve one, just no matter what, and then we kind of move it to when we need it.
Speaker 1:That's true. This is our oldest on graduation day, which was a very big moment for us, since none of us officially went to high school. Well, somebody mentioned this, I don't remember what it was, but somewhere somebody said that we were high school dropouts and I was like, hey, take it easy there, pal. I didn't even go to high school, so I'm not sure that I could drop out. I'm more like a middle school dropout.
Speaker 2:Okay, and again, at least speaking for myself, the last time I was in a formal school I was 12. Actually, no, sorry, I take it back because I was thinking of the WACO Scientology School in England Public school. I was in until 10, to the age of 10 in England, and I didn't drop out. I graduated primary school. So you know there's that, but whatever that's a story for another day.
Speaker 1:I actually did graduate middle school.
Speaker 2:Oh, there you go.
Speaker 1:Was it called middle school?
Speaker 2:But it wasn't an accredited middle school.
Speaker 1:That's true. It was just a. They just said that didn't mean anything, Right.
Speaker 2:So you just have to be specific about your terminology to not misrepresent Dr X.
Speaker 1:Oh good, you got it.
Speaker 2:You're welcome and thank you for the wedding gift Nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I meant to put that up. My grinder it's good.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly Right. Hey, better late than never. I know I really enjoyed my GED journey recently, so I was a high school dropout working on my GED. Now you go, catherine, you got this. You know, to me, education is part of my life after Scientology. I always had fairly lofty girl goals. As a seven and eight year old, I had this whole dream of going to Oxford university and, of course, that was, putting you know, torpedoed by my mother. Okay, all right, here we go, you got this one honey.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's me and Grayson at Bucky's. We did a trip. We actually did a video of this on. I have a separate YouTube channel that just has personal videos. Cause I was, we were having fun doing stuff, I figured I'd at least video it. And then after that I figured, um, we'd put it up. So we did it. Grayson and I went to Bucky's in the Tesla and we had the Tesla's drive all the way there and drive all the way back, and I never touched the steering wheel, the pedals, the entire time. It was kind of crazy.
Speaker 1:Um, this is Grayson and I up in Glenwood Springs doing some fishing. We went up there with the whole family and, uh, grayson and I and, uh, my middle guy, caden, skipped out and did some fishing in the middle of the day. And um then, uh, this is Grayson in Missouri fishing two poles in a pond and he caught, he, uh, he hooked up on both. Um, this kid is a crazy, crazy good fisher. Um, we, he, he and I have been fishing more this summer than I think our entire family's been fishing all together combined every other year. So we've been doing a lot of that. We've been having a ton of fun. And this is us back in Colorado and, oh look, I'm even wearing. I even wear the Hail Xenu merch. Okay, folks, when we go fishing, that's like my go-to is one of my Hail Xenu sweaters.
Speaker 1:There's a picture of that's Grayson and I Fishing, and another one of Grayson fishing. Is that even the same time? Oh, no, it's a totally different time. He's got different hair, but he's wearing that same top. Different hair, um, but he's wearing that same top. Uh, we got that in texas somewhere on route 66 amarillo, amarillo, gallop, yeah, amarillo. Um, that's grayson. Again in colorado. That's me. Oh, different day. Xenu is my homeboy merge, see, told. Um, this is Max with a Davy doll and we still have these on sale at the SP shop and we actually have a ton of really cool stuff coming in the SP shop in the in the next few months. But whatever amount of these we have left, um, when they're gone, they're gone, we're we're probably not going to make them again. So this is our dog, max, enjoying his Davy doll. He has his own and he loves that thing. He just chews that thing and flips it around.
Speaker 2:It's amazing, which you know I will admit we do get some amusement out of you know, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 1:Oh, and this is just Jazzy, our cat, and Max just showing off doing silly things. This cat was there so long that I laughed about it, called somebody else into the room to show them and then figured I might as well take a picture. She was there for probably two or three minutes, I don't know what she was doing. But there you go. There's some fun pics of what we were up to. Obviously, that's not all of it, but we wanted to show you. Like you know, we weren't just sitting here twiddling our thumbs. We were doing, we're up to stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not to mention, work has just been crazy, crazy, crazy. It's been many days of dead run. What can I say?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then we've also been. We've been doing a ton of just family stuff and having fun, but we have been working on some crazy new stuff for the Aftermath Foundation. That is amazing. We can make appointments with or speak with local law enforcement or government agencies where we can meet with them and educate them on how Scientology kind of games the system and and evades laws and and sort of navigates around the rules of their, their, their either, if it, either if it's the police or the, the city council or whatever it is.
Speaker 1:And so Claire did a ton of work on this and Claire doesn't really like to talk about all the stuff that she does, but she does a ton, a ton of stuff. And I almost think what she does on the aftermath stuff as a volunteer we don't get paid to do anything that has anything to do with the aftermath, um, but that as a volunteer she probably does more than a person would do or gets enough stuff done on that job. Then a person having a full-time job doing it would get done. Just a lot of different stuff. In the progress that we've made on the government program, can you break what the federal campaign?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, so there's two things. So last year actually thanks to John, who is now Catherine's husband he suggested that we apply to the Combined Federal Campaign. It's the most rigorously screened workplace giving program for all current and retired federal employees and so we started on this probably two years ago. Last year we were approved and just a couple of days ago we were approved for our second year participation. So we get to be on their directory promoting our good works. But also it gives us the opportunity to actually do face-to-face.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's via Zoom, of course, most of the time actually, though last year Amy and Matt, mike and Christy all attended an event at the Veterans Hospital in Tampa with a booth for the Aftermath Foundation. But so, for example, last year I did presentations to the Department of Defense, homeland Security, faa and multiple other government agencies in which we were able to outline the programs that the Aftermath Foundation offers, some of the successes we've had, some of the testimonials and so on and so forth. So it's kind of a really good program on two fronts we're educating government agencies on what we do and who we are, and then also it offers a way that they are able to support us if they choose to do so.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And then the other thing sorry, that was me, that's okay. The other thing is that when we do this, the, the, this combined what is it Combined federal campaign is that it is the only official organization that can offer these things to federal employees. There's no other group that can personally solicit them. That's approved. So if you're on this approved list, you're now making this available to tens of thousands. How many is it? It's like 150,000. How many employees is it?
Speaker 2:Oh gosh, I don't know, it's a lot, it's a lot.
Speaker 1:I don't remember what it is, I don't remember the current figure, but it's a lot.
Speaker 2:It's a lot. I don't remember what it is. I don't remember the current figure, but it's a lot. It's a huge program.
Speaker 1:It's either hundreds of thousands or millions of people that can participate in this, but regardless, we've gotten in thousands and thousands of dollars of donations through that program. Just in the first year, and doing these presentations that Mike and Amy and Christy and Claire and Matt everyone who's done them it's resulted in donations to the foundation. So that is a huge deal and that we just got approved for the second year in a row.
Speaker 2:It's a very it's very strict process that they go through to review your organization, so um and of course, let's not forget, last year OSA challenged our um participation in that program, let's say, and so we were double audited which was totally fine. We passed that, you know for the course incredible scrutiny we get that it's just part of the cross we chose to bear and it brings us great joy to help people get out of Scientology. So you know there's pros and cons anything.
Speaker 1:Well, when we join, in almost every case they get complaints that we've been approved to join and so they have to give us another look. And if all your T's are crossed and I's are dotted and everything's legit, then you're good and we get approved and there's nothing they can really do. And so we try, we do a lot of work to make that, so we can do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've personally spoken to probably upwards of 20 different state investigators at this point. You know there's this mysterious Emma Anderson is her name who files complaints with every single state we register with, and it was funny because last year, the Florida investigator I was working with said this was unprompted. Mind you, we've come to the conclusion that Emma Anderson is not a real person, and I said really, how did you come to that conclusion? Well, she said she wanted to give testimony about the Aftermath Foundation, so we invited her to come in to do so several times and she never responded. So there you have it. You know I'm not going to make any assumptions, but that's just again.
Speaker 2:You know what we signed up for from the get-go with the Aftermath Foundation. Oh, so the other piece that we were going to talk about is last year, we started multiple efforts along the lines of collaboration with law enforcement, and so this is what we were Mark was just referring to. I made four trips last year that we paid for out of pocket. The reason being is because, yes, it's important for the aftermath foundation to collaborate with law enforcement. Nonetheless, we had no guarantee that anything was going to come of it, so it was not something that we were um we ever even considered funding through the foundation. We paid for it personally, just to make that point clear.
Speaker 1:Also, like I said, we try to set up these meetings when we're going to be in that place, so it's sort of just like we're going to be there for two days, let's spend an afternoon with. You know a certain county.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're not going to say any names of the multiple law enforcement agencies we met with, for obvious reasons, but I did want to give a shout out to Gary Moorhead Jackson.
Speaker 2:He attended several of those meetings with me last year, as did other people, and I will say that, while not all of those went as we would have liked given you know just the history of Scientology and their litigious nature and so on and so forth On the better note to mention is that we have now started establishing multiple good connections, like I said, with multiple law enforcement agencies that we can contact and say, hey, we need your help with this investigation or this investigation and 201, they have responded and helped us immediately.
Speaker 2:So I am just so grateful for that effort. And in fact, one agency asked the aftermath foundation to set up a dedicated law enforcement crisis line. Um, because they they actually described to us multiple scenarios where they ran into somebody that was obviously from one of their properties and they were very suspicious of the circumstances. But unfortunately they're limited to what they can do, what they can say, what they can offer, and also their knowledge base is limited as to what this person might be facing. So they asked us to set up this dedicated crisis line, which we did last year, and that's now in operation and it has been distributed to every law enforcement agency that has requested it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the other thing is we did.
Speaker 1:We might have told this in a podcast or in a live or, but there was one instance where somebody was in a police department that the police department didn't exactly know what to do with, but they did.
Speaker 1:The police department suspected that this person might be a victim of trafficking or some sort of non-optimum situation.
Speaker 1:Where they could, they had nowhere to go and Scientology, within an hour, had sent somebody to that police station, got the person and got them out of there, and then only after did they get ahold of us and then told us what happened, and so if they had our number, they could have called us while they had the person there, and then they could have, we could have talked to the person or whatever. But, um, but what I did want to say about that particular story is that person was eventually helped and we did eventually get that person to a safe place. It wasn't that that time when she ended up at the police station, but it was eventually did happen, so that that did have a happy ending, even though we weren't there, we didn't, we didn't even know that you could do that. You just call the police and say, hey, if somebody comes to you from this place. Here's our number and we can help you navigate what to do with this person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly so. Yeah, just to reiterate, there's a lot going on behind the scenes. For every one thing we talk about, there's probably 20 other things that we just can't talk about. So thank you for being patient and understanding that. It's just the nature of the beast, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then you also, you have a new series that you're doing.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, so I have. So the first episode and actually anyway, yeah, not to get ahead of myself my new series coming up that I'm in planning stages of. Hopefully the first episode comes out next week, but again, just bear with me, patience-wise, it's been very challenging, but it's Life After Scientology. The series will focus on recovery and life after Scientology. I'm going to be talking with people who have left to find out what helped them in their journey. I'm also.
Speaker 2:One of the things that helped me tremendously was just all the many books that I have read, some of them about Scientology, memoirs and accounts but not all Other ones too, like right now I'm reading Amanda Montel's Cultish, which just talks about cults in general, but also specifically some things about Scientology. That have just been really really helpful. That one focuses on the power of semantics and the language of cults and how those semantics tend to isolate you from the real world, which the reason it's so significant to me is that even when I was in elementary school, I quickly became somewhat of an outsider because of my use of the word like don't be banky, for example, which I didn't know wasn't a part of the real English language. Banky was something we were frequently told.
Speaker 1:Claire was accusing other kids of being financial institutions. No no, you little lender you.
Speaker 2:No. So the comparison is if you tell a child, hey, stop acting out, that would be the comparative term in real world language, the comparative term in real world language Of course it ties to the reactive bank which you're.
Speaker 2:If you're acting out, and in an aberrated fashion, as they call it, then you're being banky, you're dramatizing your reactive bank and you need to knock it off. So so many times as a child I was told don't be banky. And I and I didn't even know what it meant, but I knew what it meant. I knew it meant stop acting out Anyhow. It's just funny how language can ostracize you and isolate you from, from people you know they're like.
Speaker 1:Look at you, like what it's like you're speaking a foreign language.
Speaker 2:You're speaking English, but not really. It's like you're speaking a foreign language You're speaking English, but not really. Anyway, that's just an example, though. So I'm planning to talk about a number of the books that ask them questions, which I'm really excited for and, um, let's see, yeah, so that's that series very cool starting soon.
Speaker 1:Yes, and then you, weren't you going to do that other one too?
Speaker 2:yes, um, oh yeah, but I just wanted to say before we move on. So if there's a book that you would like me to add to my list to review and talk to the author and all that, please drop it in the comments. That would be amazing from Scientology because, as we've talked about many times before it's, scientology is unique in that it's kind of well known in in the cult recovery world that it is one of the hardest cults to recover from. So you know anyhow. So there's that. And then the second one will be about kids and cults, and this one will not just be limited to Scientology, though, of course, just be limited to Scientology, though of course, the idea is to talk with victims, survivors, experts on the dangers of involving kids in cults.
Speaker 2:And the reason this is such a cause for me personally is because, I've said many times, my mother joined the Sea Organization when I was four years old, so I was essentially orphaned by Scientology at the age of four. She was a single mother and, yeah, the programming is. I've been I'm now 19 years into my recovery path and it's a lot of work, and I strongly, very firmly believe it should be illegal to involve children in cults. So that's my purpose in doing that series, something I'm completely passionate about. I think that having kids of my own really opened my eyes to my own childhood, up until the moment I think our first son was born.
Speaker 2:Up until the moment I think our first son was born, I was still explaining away like even to my extended family who I've been able to reconnect with, like my aunts and uncles in England. They were just so mad at my mom and I was like it's okay, you know, I understand. And the moment I had my first child I was like hell to the no, this is so not okay, should be illegal Anyway. So again, not to go on a whole roll, but it's something I'm very committed to educating people about and I'm very interested too to see some of the parallels, like what were other people's experiences growing up in cults? I don't ever believe in comparing traumas, but just to learn similarities, differences, et cetera. I don't ever believe in comparing traumas, but just to learn similarities, differences, et cetera. I think will be very informative.
Speaker 1:Awesome.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:Cool.
Speaker 2:Who's doing all the talking now, honey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know it's perfect. I said whatever we talk about, it's going to be you, because I'll yap about anything forever without not would not even like making up an agenda, um, but um, and I did have I I don't know if I want to talk about it in this video or do a whole nother video about it, but I do have some fun, um, ideas on the Tom Cruise stuff that I wanted to talk about too.
Speaker 2:So, um, oh, yeah, yeah, I was going to add that to the note.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm was going to add that to the note is, for a long time Scientology had they had John Travolta and they had Juliette Lewis and they had what's Juliette's dad's name, jeffrey Lewis. They had a lot of these kind of TV stars and they had a few movie actors here and there. But once they got their hooks into Tom Cruise, that is literally when David Miscavige was like this is what we needed, this is our guy, he's going to be our guy. And Tom Cruise was almost not going to stay in Scientology. He almost left.
Speaker 1:When him and Nicole Kidman were married, tom Cruise was like 90% out and when some nonsense happened that Scientology had their dirty hooks into that had to do with lawyers and maybe Anthony Pelicano and private eyes and all sorts of nonsense they were able to get their hooks back in Tom and from that point forward he's been pretty hardcore. Okay, but the funniest thing that I was thinking about the other day is Tom Cruise. In a lot of his movies his main objective is to kill aliens. That is literally the. There's probably a handful you can think of right now War of the Worlds, oblivion, whatever that one is Day, tomorrow, next Day, not the.
Speaker 2:Day Edge of Tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Rinse, repeat, freaking, kill some more aliens.
Speaker 2:What was that? One with the fancy boards that Dave Miscavige was trying to copy for the information centers management? With the fancy like the one where you could, like, see crimes that were going to be committed in the future.
Speaker 1:That's a minority report.
Speaker 2:Minority report exactly he was killing aliens in that one. That was just. He was just a drug committed in the future. That's a minority report. Minority report exactly he was killing aliens in that one.
Speaker 1:That was just. He was just a drug addict in the future, anyway, there's a whole bunch of movies where he's trying to kill aliens. And I was thinking about it and correct me if I'm wrong, claire. When you do the OT levels and you learn about Xenu and you learn about all the body, thetans, the space cooties, when you learn about that every human has tens of thousands, if not millions, of these space cooties in them, living in them, affecting their behavior and their mental state. These aliens are communicating with you telepathically, telling you to do things that you shouldn't be doing. Okay, hats off for saying that with mostly a straight face. Do you get rid of the aliens or do you obliterate the aliens?
Speaker 2:you get, you release them so that they can go pick up new bodies, which is you know which is. Scientologists attribute that to the overpopulation on earth, and why the population is supposedly exponentially expanding is because they've released all these body thetans and they've cleared them so that they can now go pick up new bodies yeah, so in scientology, they are making aliens, space aliens, homeless on a full-time basis to tens of thousands a day.
Speaker 1:Scientologists, in one auditing session, you can get rid of 10,000 of these space aliens like a cluster, right? Am I exaggerating? Nope, okay, I'm telling you people, scientologists are making tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of aliens homeless every single day. That's what they're doing, and that's what they're doing and that's what tom cruise believes he's doing. So when you see him fighting aliens in the movies, he does that every single day in his real life. He kills, kills. Maybe I thought they were getting rid of him, I didn't know. They were making him just homeless. So I don't know. I have to maybe revise my thoughts on this, but regardless. Now, this is my point. This is my point. This guy, tom Cruise, believes that he has exercised space cooties out of himself.
Speaker 1:And this is the guy that we're letting run around with a torch. Now, I don't know, man, you guys got to do your homework. Yeah, I don't know, man, you guys got to do your homework, yeah.
Speaker 2:So let me just say this, because when Top Gun came out in June 2022, I put up this post. Do you mind if I read it, honey, because it's pretty short and to the point.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:If it has something to do with what we're talking about, let's hear it. It absolutely does, because I could just literally transpose Olympics for Top Gun and it would be the same. Okay, here we go. So this was June 9th 2022. And it kind of went a little bit viral by my small minutiae social media standards. Okay, glad, all you Top Gun fans are enjoying the new movie.
Speaker 2:Personally, recent posts about this new movie only serve to remind me of Tom Cruise and his crimes against humanity. Extreme, you may think. Destroying families is a crime against humanity. My opinion Ask yourself when is the last time Tom talked to his only biological daughter, suri? Remember Katie Holmes and her extreme efforts to break free of his and Scientology's control?
Speaker 2:Tom Cruise promotes a dangerous cult that destroyed my family too. The same cults that almost cost me my marriage and my life. The same cult that forced me to have two you know, anyway, we won't say that word and which I fled from in 2005 with the clothes on my back and $200 in my pocket, to which they tracked me down across state lines to attempt to prevent my escape. Thank God, they failed. So, no, I will not watch the movie, nor will I ever support or approve of this scam of a man. Trust me, tom Cruise knows exactly who he is supporting and the abuses that organization perpetrates. I worked with him while I was there. No doubt my post will likely disappear with Facebook algorithms. I worked with him while I was there. No doubt my post will likely disappear with Facebook algorithms. I feel better saying it nonetheless, and thank you to my friends who understand. You know who you are there you go yeah, my thoughts on Tom Cruise and I'm done.
Speaker 1:So, besides being a deadbeat dad or not the best dad, or whatever kind of crazy dad you want to call it, he's getting rid of space cooties.
Speaker 1:And my last thing that I did want to say is that there's a lot of people that believe in aliens. They're all over that there are aliens, or there could be aliens, or they live among us or whatever, or they live among us or whatever. Okay, now, if the Xenu, let's pretend for just a second that Scientologists know the truth and everything they have is legit and they've been getting rid of all these aliens for the last 50 years. If there really are aliens and they show up, that's not gonna look good on Earth's resume that these guys have been evicting space aliens for the last 50 years and they've been kicking all these aliens out. It's going to look bad on all of us. So I just think if we're going to pretend that what the Scientology guys are saying is real, then they're creating an intergalactic situation as we speak. That's going to be out of control, uh, at the point that aliens find out about this, okay, so, um, anyway, on that serious note, I think we should show the pictures of the bobbleheads okay, sounds good.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, let me just. I'm just checking my notes here checking your notes. Yeah, you know, okay, perfect. Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 1:Okay. So somebody sent this to us, I don't remember where, I don't remember who. I just found it in my folder of bobblehead pics and I thought it was hilarious. And this was like an elf on the shelf thing. They were like elf on the shelf. Look what? I got a mic on a bike. I don't know, I found it amusing. But the other one was this I don't know what this is. Is this Mike? That's a fire pit? Is it Mick on a pit?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't remember Tell me if you know a word that fire Mike on a fire I don't know.
Speaker 2:Mike on fire, I don't know. Oh wait, render on a Tinder. Maybe, Render on a Cinder, there we go. Catherine said that. Render on a Cinder, not Tinder.
Speaker 1:Duh Render on Tinder. I think that's something totally different, babe, besides just a fire, sorry.
Speaker 2:I know I'm woefully out of the loop on some of these things. I apologize.
Speaker 1:Okay, what's this one then?
Speaker 2:Rinder. Oh wait, Christy says this is her picks Christy's in the chat.
Speaker 1:Yay, hi, christy, I'm not supposed to show these. I did think that one looked like a familiar driveway. This one, maybe this one is Rinder on Tinder.
Speaker 2:Yeah, anyway, we're just trying to send some love and support to Mike and Healing Vibes. So there you go. We're just having fun with this. Mike on strike.
Speaker 1:Yay, finally won. That's easy, anyway. Okay Now Dr X, longtime supporter of the channel.
Speaker 2:Who's in the chat, by the way?
Speaker 1:Hello Dr.
Speaker 2:X. Thank you, thank you, thank you she went on a trip and she went.
Speaker 1:I mean, these guys, they went wild with the photo shoot. And now this is not just, um, uh, render, a bobble render. This also has Davy dolls. Okay, and these Davy dolls, she sent them in these collages so I just I've kept them like that, but they're, they're just arriving, looks like they're on it, that's like a cart with some luggage and stuff on it, and then you can see the little Mike bobblehead is by that upright suitcase and then the fake Navy Davy doll, captain Chuck Captain Chucklesworth, excuse me, is he's doing something with the cart? I don't know. Then he's in the bird.
Speaker 1:That just up to all sorts of nonsense. These two, um, that just up to all sorts of nonsense, these two. And then whenever they go out I don't know what it is, but whenever they go out, captain chuckles, where fake davy navy just gets blitzed, and you can see mike's there just chilling, and this guy he's always sprawled out, just gone, um, and there's a lot of whiskey, but I mean, it looks like he's into wine now. He's just he's getting it all done. And then here they are, at some sort of prison, I guess, or post office, or that's yeah, and then back to partying as you would have it, like this guy's triple fisting it over here up in the upper corner there.
Speaker 2:Um, to be fair is not out of character. So there you have it.
Speaker 1:That's true, but um, yeah, and then here's the last one. I just thought those were fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Um, okay, Do we want to? Uh, do we want to look at some questions?
Speaker 2:Sure, let's do it.
Speaker 1:Okay, here we go. We're going to try to go through. Okay, so now, what time is it? We got to do this?
Speaker 2:We always have to do this. It's two 44. So we're going to go for like 15 more minutes, right.
Speaker 1:Well, no, I was going to say no more questions, whatever questions are in here.
Speaker 2:Those are the ones we're going to do. Okay, good.
Speaker 1:We'll try to get them done. Um, we'll see. I'm not making any promises. If anybody's got any appointments, you might have to come back and finish up. Okay, bingo McMahon Question how did the cult function when DM was incapacitated with illness? I don't know that DM was ever incapacitated. I know he broke his leg playing a short man's basketball with tom cruise and dustin hopman.
Speaker 2:But um, besides that, um, the times he was ill he just kept running things. Anyway, it's kind of um. You know, you don't get to take time off in the seorg. Uh, I mean he certainly never. He never went to isolation. Yes, he went on expensive vacations and everything else when we never did Um, but you know uh yeah, so even when he broke his leg, he was still running the show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, okay, um, here's a great one.
Speaker 2:Question how is Serge Obolinsky and the aftermath foundation doing great? Um, please feel free to go to the aftermath foundationorg. Um, please feel free to go to the aftermath foundationorg. You can sign up for our upcoming newsletter there that we're hoping to start getting out quarterly, and also we'll be sending out email updates, notifications. We have some amazing things in the works coming soon. Um, so, yes, absolutely, and Serge is doing great. Can I say the thing?
Speaker 1:Of course, yep, he got. We did a video or we did some kind of Q&A or whatever, and we mentioned if anybody had a job for Serge that we could get for Serge somebody who's disabled or maybe somebody who just wants a part-time job somewhere in and around Hollywood and we did get a lot of suggestions and we did follow up on those and for the most part it was either a transport or it just wasn't. Serge Maybe physically he wouldn't be able to do that. It was a bit of a travel and then job and then so. But recently somebody sent something in that Serge went crazy for and we're going through and we're following with that and the person who volunteered the information is helping and so it looks like that one might pan out and Serge and it's a very sweet gig, like Serge is so excited for it and also I would like to mention too, so excited for it.
Speaker 2:Yes, and also I would like to mention too, so obviously, when we released the story of Serge Obolensky, you saw at the end of that that he had his graduation from attaining his GED, which our whole family flew out and attended, and it was an amazing, memorable moment for all of us, our boys included. It was just really moving. Well, serge was invited back to the following year graduation to give a speech to encourage other adults working on attaining their GED, which he did, and we filmed that, so that will be coming out soon too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was super amazing and Serge is it's hard to explain it, but he's like a new guy now. He's a new, he's Serge again, like he's back to being like excited about doing stuff and talking to people and he's making friends and he's connecting with old friends and so, yeah, if you guys haven't seen the story, and family, and family too, and family.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right. If you haven't seen the story of Serge Obolinsky, we'll put a link in the description of this video and I'll make it one of the ones that shows up at the end for the end card. If you forget, it'll be there. But Serge is really doing great and every time I'm in California I do make it a point to swing by and either have a lunch or a dinner, go somewhere to a movie or hang out with him, or do something and go to an all-you-can-eat buffet, and so, yeah, Serge is doing great. Thank you for the question.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Once a witness. Is that what it was? That's who it was. I think it was.
Speaker 2:I think so, yes, so I'll read them and we'll take okay, oh, you read it. Now it is coming along well, I have some amazing people collaborating with me, which I'm so grateful for. Well, I have some amazing people collaborating with me, which I'm so grateful for. I will say, work has been so challenging the last two months that it's kind of one of the things I'm beating myself up over, but I intend to get back to it after my next deadline, which is in four days. So, yeah, that's my plan.
Speaker 1:Awesome.
Speaker 2:But thanks for asking. It's going to be awesome. All right, I'll do this one, Chris. Chris seven five, 14. Do you guys have the Dave elf dolls available? We do, while supplies last at the sp shopcom We'll. We'll link to the to the shop in the video description and just to reiterate, all proceeds from the Davey Dolls, the Mike Rinder Bobbleheads, the SP Bracelets and the Aftermath Foundation merch do benefit the Aftermath Foundation. All proceeds go to the Aftermath Foundation and not to name any names or spill any things. Oh, okay, Question Denver Stevo Question. Are those Clara Markubles back on the mrs shelf? Okay, so?
Speaker 1:those are not available.
Speaker 2:But no, that is a this was a gift from an incredible viewer I would say their name, but I I. It was a while ago and so I'd have to look it up, but how cool is that.
Speaker 1:We do have some exciting stuff coming in the SP shop, and it does have to do with baubles. I'll just leave it at that, but that's the reason I put that up. Thanks, denver Stevo.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh yeah, and so we have some new items coming soon to the SP shop, so stay tuned.
Speaker 1:Becky Lund says first time catching a live generally only hear you both on audio podcasts. Thank you, claire and Mark from the UK. Yeah, so for those of you who don't know, we do have a podcast that comes out every week and and sometimes I'm I can't. I'm pretty sure everything that we do on YouTube eventually ends up on there, but sometimes we put stuff up there before we put it up on YouTube, it just depends. So if you like listening to podcasts, we do that.
Speaker 1:And Australia I think that last comment was from Australia Australia for some reason, is the number one download country of our podcast. They blow everybody else away. I don't know why it is. But thank you, australia, we hear you, we see you. And now they have a new thing in the podcast where you can send us a little note. They don't allow us to respond to the note, but you can send us a little note via the podcast, say thanks, or hey there, or flippy dippy, do da, or whatever you want. Mananon says Claire's an amazing woman. The aftermath is amazing, so good to hear the snippets of success. Yes, thank you, thank you appreciate, uh, getting feedback from people. And um, yeah, we, uh, we, oh, yeah. Can you show sweet liberty, says claire. Can you let us know if amy and matt are doing? Okay, I miss them yes, yes, they're doing amazing.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, a lot of us are just, I mean to be honest, uh, we started getting doing busy, getting doing other things and, um, we don't, I don't even know. We don't do this for a living, so this is sort of like we do this when we don't, in our free time, um, and because we enjoy doing it. It's tons of fun. We love the community and we, you know, we love hearing from people and, um, eventually, um, the people that we've helped, some of them actually, when they're succeeding, they do like to tell their story. And some of those people have been doing that and they're like hey, and we've been being contacted by people who want to do that and they're like, hey, if you guys were doing the videos again, we could share our story. And then we go like, okay, yeah, we'll do it. Well, we just got to do, got to.
Speaker 2:I think it's fair to say that we struggle with finding a good life balance, and you know we're just trying to play around with that and get to a place where we're like okay, you know, we have our work, we have our volunteer work for the Aftermath Foundation, we have our kids, which, of course, are more priority than any of that, and so you know, thanks for being patient with us and figuring things out, and you know, there you go.
Speaker 1:Okay, Moon, it's similar to the other one, but how is your book writing coming along?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's coming along. I, and I appreciate RL who commented not to beat myself up about that. I'm an expert at beating myself up. You can ask Mark. I'm just really good at it. So, um, anyway, I'm, I it's, it's all written in my head.
Speaker 1:That's good news yeah, matt denny says it still amazes me the level of cognitive dissonance when people read ot, ot3 and think, yeah, that makes sense, nothing weird about that. Yeah, it is. It is weird that, okay, so explain it. There's some. We got one right here. We got one, uh, we got a live one. You read it and she didn't tell me.
Speaker 2:I did not think, yeah, that makes sense, nothing weird about that. In fact, I will say I have never any Scientologists or under the radar or former Scientologists out there who this doesn't ring true, for it. Please contact me. I would love to talk to you. I personally have never talked to anybody who read the OT theory materials who thought, yeah, that makes sense, nothing weird about that. But by that point you're it's kind of like you're so far down the rabbit hole that the escape hatches are long since like in the rear view mirror. Um, and if you, if you were to say out loud, well, this doesn't make any sense. And that means in Scientology that, quote unquote you are a bypassed case, which means you have to do everything all over again and then come read it again, and only when you say it makes sense will you be allowed to go on to the next.
Speaker 2:And of course, I was doing this as a member of the C organization, so I wasn't having to pay at that time. I did receive a bill for $96,000 after we left, but that's neither here nor there In the moment. I didn't have hundreds of thousands of dollars to spend. We were making $46 a week, so they just made you sign promissory invoices to say if you ever left then you would pay for it. So I'm saying that in the context of like I can't even imagine what a paying public you know somebody who is a civilian Scientologist, like Leah for example, you have to pay a half a million bucks and then you find out, oh, I've got you're telling me, I've got space cooties.
Speaker 1:That's why I can't keep a girlfriend, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's wild guys, it's Tom Cruise. That's what Tom Cruise believes. He believes that everybody at the Olympics has got space cooties and that's why they act the way they act. You know, I wonder if you have like super awesome space cooties that are really good at gymnastics. What's wrong with that? See the Scientologists. What?
Speaker 2:was your thing that you came up with BTs activate.
Speaker 1:BTs activate. That's right. I'm telling you guys. Scientologists are trying to get rid of the space cooties. They should be harnessing their energy. If these guys are capable of interstellar travel and we're just going to kick them out, well, I don't know what. I'm telling you guys. There's something wrong If the Scientologists what they believe is true, they're looking at this thing the whole wrong way. I'm just telling you. And also, we've got some exciting news about Xenu coming up too.
Speaker 2:Wait, we do.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Did he call you again? Not tonight. Okay, okay, okay, Dr X, hey guys, Glad to see your smiling faces back on our screens Wishing you a great wedding anniversary month. Thank you for all you do in the fight against Scientology and disconnection. Look forward to the new series Love the Family Picks.
Speaker 2:Thank you, dr X. We appreciate it. Yay, our 32nd wedding anniversary is in 10 days. Can you believe that? I can't believe that, and you know what I'm, a person that likes. You know you can look at the cup half empty or the cup half full, so here's my cup half full observation for today. On our anniversary, I will be celebrating that I will have now been married to you for more years than I was in the abusive, dangerous cult of scientology. Yeah, 30 years in scientology, 32 years married, to mark there you have it.
Speaker 2:That was last year, though no well, I know, but you know I have it. That was last year though. No well, I know, but you know I didn't think of it last year.
Speaker 1:So yes, thank you, dr X. We appreciate that, dr X has been sending us. I've told him, dr X. I said you got to stop sending stuff, okay.
Speaker 2:We really, we really appreciate it. That was very kind. She sent us an entire candy store.
Speaker 1:It really appreciate it. That was very kind. She sent us an entire candy store it I I'm still losing weight, okay, uh and the kids were eating. It was a, we had a. We had a very sugar-filled time period with uh dr x's package and then I said stop sending stuff. And then she sent us all this other gear, um, from uh calling wood. I was like, anyway, anyway, thank you, dr X, the kids love all the stuff that you sent.
Speaker 2:Especially our neighbors. They're like wow, Australian candy, this is amazing Sweeties.
Speaker 1:Catherine Olsen says John says we should put the Hubbard pinatas in the SP shop. Okay, that's kind of funny. I'm trying to not get more stuff. Okay, um, you know, I'm trying to. I'm trying to not get more stuff. Okay, I got baubles. I got Davy doll. You know I've got boxes of Davy dolls. Guys, they're just taking up shelf space. Um, I'm, I'm the fulfillment center for the SP shop.
Speaker 2:Okay, You're the. You're the the um design and production manager and the storage, but I'm the fulfillment manager.
Speaker 1:She does ship it. You, if you're getting something from the SP shop, if it's, if it's t-shirts or whatever that's coming from the places that make the t-shirts and we're trying to kind of move over to that. But every time I say that we try to move over to that, we add more products to the SP shop that are not that. So I don't know, We'll figure it out one of these days.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I said, we struggle with finding life balance.
Speaker 1:I am saying right now, though, I'm saying there's not going to be any more Mike Rinder bobbleheads. We're done with those, we're not making them again, because the last ones we have we want to sell those out and then we want to move over to the other kind of merch. So, um, thank you, katherine. Um, another, when is your book coming out? You really, you really got to work on this book and get it going. Get it done, babe, because there's a lot of people asking about the book.
Speaker 1:That's like I know, I really appreciate it saying tonight love food kitchen says not enjoying the slow mode. I can't. But I don't know what that means, that slow mode, oh, in the comments.
Speaker 2:So yeah, For some reason we're just out of practice. Bear with us on easing back into this. It's all good.
Speaker 1:Settings. Back there Once a witness again says Jehovah's Witness cult Question what do you think of about the Delphi schools? Is it real education? It's not real education, it is.
Speaker 1:I went to Delphi. For most of the schooling that I did actually do. I attended a school named Apple School, which was in Los Angeles and Los Los Feliz area and that was a Scientology sort of run school, until the people that ran the school said they didn't want to have anything to do with Scientology and then they declared them suppressive persons. And and I'm friends with Facebook on those people, with those people actually it's kind of funny on Facebook or someplace I'm friends with them. Somehow we talk or get info shared back and forth. Hey guys, bonnie, is it Bonnie? I think it's Bonnie, I can't remember the names, but I'm pretty sure it was Bonnie.
Speaker 1:And then also Delphi, the Delphi Academy. They have a few different locations. They have one in Los Angeles, they have one in Clearwater and they have one in Oregon, in Sheridan, I think is the nearest town, or it's in Sheridan, oregon. Those schools are basically Scientology prep schools. They have them as boarding schools, they have them as a preschool all the way to high school and the entire time you're there, you're being indoctrinated in the Scientology concepts and Scientology ideas and L Ron Hubbard's way of learning and studying and looking up misunderstood words and doing clay demos and clay demonstrations. And if you, if the Sea Org wants to recruit somebody and they have somebody that's from Delphi or one of these Scientology affiliated schools those people are fast tracked to be prepped for the Sea Organization. So if they went and got a regular Scientologist, they would be less qualified than a kid that went to Delphi and grew up being indoctrinated in Scientology.
Speaker 1:The founders of these schools the Delphi School and the Scientology schools the founders, the teachers, the headmasters they were all heavily involved in the guardian's office. The headmaster of my school in Los Angeles was jailed for the biggest infiltration of the United States government in its histories Operation Snow White and Operation Freakout and all these things were found out when the government in in what do they call it raided Scientology's locations and got these documents. The guy that was my headmaster at Delphi was Henning Heldt. He was one of the people that went to jail for that action. He was the headmaster of my school. That was his first job out of jail, I think like when he got out of jail he was my headmaster.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, that was the same for the headmistress at Greenfields, which is the UK equivalent of Delphi. That guy was a Geo guy too, margaret. No, a woman, margaret Hodkin. Yeah, she was in the guardian's office as well. Wow, she was the headmistress, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Yep, what the what, mm-hmm? Yep, what the what?
Speaker 2:Guys, it's not a real school, it's a science, Not to mention the fact that one of the teachers at the school it did end up in jail for.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I know. I know it's all good, I'm not going to go there.
Speaker 2:They're not just saying they're a bunch of bad characters. Let's leave it at that.
Speaker 1:A bunch of bad characters. Let's leave it at that goes on and on. Meryl Veneer, one of the GO's main lawyer operatives in Clearwater. His daughter, angie Veneer, was one of the very first graduates of Delphi, los Angeles, and she also just happened to be the witness that was disappeared from the Danny Masterson case. Because she ended up joining the Sea Organization and then she was the case supervisor, the one that was seeing all of the things that Danny Masterson was up to and getting in trouble for that. Scientology knew all well what he was doing. The entire time he was doing it, and when this all started coming out, she suddenly isn't in the Sea Organization anymore and nobody knows where she is. She's in.
Speaker 1:Kansas City. If anybody's looking for yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh here, let me put up this comment here about um you, the UK, greenfields, mike Rinder. Margaret was she's mother of Peter Hodkin, the UK, rick Moxon. Wow, and also I think, even, I think even that her daughter or granddaughter is one of the people that has was involved in the big brouhaha to make Scientology weddings acceptable in the UK. I think I'd have to check that, but I'm pretty sure. Anyway, it's very, very small world in Scientology. Everybody knows everybody, but yet anyway, Totally.
Speaker 1:Glenda says Space Cooties, did Simone Biles right Go Space Cooties, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly, go, simone Biles. I love gymnastics Amazing.
Speaker 1:We did have to watch all of that gymnastic stuff.
Speaker 2:Yes, we definitely did.
Speaker 1:Did you know? If you're going to take Scientology, you got to rework this. If you're going to say that the space cooties can make you bad, well the space cooties could make you good, and not all space cooties are bad space cooties. That's the other thing. They just discriminate against the space cooties, that they're all 100% bad. How is that? Because they got implanted by Xenu. I forgot about that part. They goted by Xenu. I forgot about that part. They got tricked by Xenu, so Xenu trafficked them here and then the Scientologists are basically just evicting them. So Scientologists are just like shitty body landlords, so just kicking people out. I don't know. I still think you should embrace the body, thetans, scientologists, anyway. Tom.
Speaker 2:Cruise believes in aliens. I say you know what Love and acceptance? Tom Cruise believes in aliens. Love and acceptance for all. I say love and acceptance for all. There's too much hate in this world. We just need to do the best we can and get on with our lives. That's what I say.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, tom Cruise believes in space cooties and he jumps and runs and jump, he jumps off. Okay, tom Cruise believes in space cooties, he jumps off of stuff and he runs real fast, and maybe it's the space goodies that are allowing him to do that. I'm just saying, tom.
Speaker 2:Or maybe they're slowing him down.
Speaker 1:Pick a side. No, they're not slowing. How could they be slowing him down? He's a maniac. He's hanging on planes. He's doing all kinds of nonsense. If anybody knows he's going to jump off of something, I bet you.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Mark my words. If he's going to do some kind of thing, he's going to jump off of something. He's going to fly on something. He might even jump onto a plane and then fly the plane. He might jump, fly a plane, then jump out of the plane. That's it. The BTs are helping him, guys. He says he's killing or getting. I don't think he is. I think he's playing both sides of this, just saying Okay.
Speaker 2:All right, are we going to finish the comments and do giveaways and then wrap up for today?
Speaker 1:I think we did them all. Oh, blown for Good Should host a competition for which country has the smallest Scientology org Someone? You know what? This is a really great idea, you know, maria. Thank you, I like this idea. This is a good idea. On the Blown for Good website we redid the whole thing. You can send us images through the Blown for Good site. That's also where. Do we have a newsletter for Blown for Good or like a mailing list?
Speaker 2:We have a mailing list and we are planning to start using it. We haven't yet, but yes, you can sign up for notifications there. That's where we'll be sending out advanced updates when they're ready, about my book, for example.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so so if you go there and if you want to send us pictures of bobbleheads or Davy dolls, up to nonsense, um, or your, you and a copy of your SP bracelet, I'm thinking, depending on how this goes, I'm thinking, depending on how this goes, people have always wanted to get suppressive person declares.
Speaker 1:Okay, it's been a very high requested item. I'm thinking we might have a contest or something, depending on if you buy merch, or every person who buys merch gets entered in to get one of these certs. I don't exactly know how to do it, but I'm saying we might do something like that. If we're going to end up doing it, put it on there. But if you want to send us a pictures of your organization and it looks like it's rinky dink and it's not doing so, well, send it to us and we will decide who has, or maybe who has, the best pick of a Davy doll or Mike Rinder bobblehead in front of their hokey pokey org. We have gotten a lot of those. We were getting those before when we would do the the Shoups contests, which I loved doing those, by the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know Like we're going to do our own world tour of Scientology organizations, something like that.
Speaker 1:There's not a lot of them that look that the newer. These ideal org ones are the only ones that look that great. All the rest of them are just. I mean, your local dog groomers got a better joint than Scientology in most cases. Yeah, okay, great idea. Maria, that was the last starred thing, unless you guys see something else I got to. I 100%, absolutely have to talk about.
Speaker 2:No, we're good, so let's do our giveaways.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, we got to do giveaways. So how do you do that? Do you have to type hashtag giveaway? Do I have to open up that?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So yeah, do or no, you don't have to add anything in. Oh hey, mitch, just type in hashtag elf or hashtag bobblehead, Either of those.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you do have to match text. You have to say giveaway.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:For the tool. You have to just say hashtag giveaway.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And then I did it. I'm going to do it. Let's see Start collecting comments. Okay, it says two entries, so it's working. Okay, let me move this over here Nika.
Speaker 2:Yes, please On those photos. Thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you guys want to send us any of this stuff, send it to go to the blown for goodcom website. You'll see when you go again. It's got a picture of Claire. It's got a picture of me. Don't go to any Scientology stuff. They Scientology have been. I don't know what's going on, but I think because Tom Cruz I think because Tom Cruz was going to do something they started paying ads, because we talk about Tom Cruise all the time and if you search Tom Cruise, our videos show up. So all of a sudden I got all these people saying dude, what's going on with you and the Scientology people? I was like I haven't done anything in months. What are they freaking out for now?
Speaker 2:By the way, colonel Brock commented he has his SP declared, we have ours. It's not very common these days to have yours, but anyway, let's do the giveaway now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do we do it as a cert? Well, it's only 26 people. I'm not going to spin the wheel until at least 50 people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll just pick them randomly, and then they can email me and say what they want An elf or a bobblehead.
Speaker 1:Oh, so you want to just do it right now? Yep, I'll do it. Oh, because we're going to do four. Okay, did we say who did Dr X and Maria are the one who donated these.
Speaker 2:Yes, so thank you both.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got to say that. You got to say that somebody says I'm given doing a giveaway. You got to say that. Yes, so we have this is Dr X and Maria.
Speaker 2:We have three elves from Dr X and we have a bobblehead and an elf from Maria Thank you so much and then we have one other bobblehead. So we basically have three bobbleheads and four elves to give away, so a total of seven.
Speaker 1:So we can do it, but I messed up, so I'm just going to do the first winner and then I'll figure out how to share it. So hold on, let me just. It's still up. I didn't mess it up completely. Oh, I got us unshared, oh good.
Speaker 2:Like I said, folks, thank you so much for your patience. We get rusty real quick in our old age on this technology stuff. So you know, like Mark was, I forgot to use my mic the other day. How bad is that.
Speaker 1:She did. You know what I'm going to say. I'll make a disclaimer right now. I might put it in the video description the very first episode of her nurse series. She does the whole thing. Interview was great, where everything was wonderful, and I go okay, I'm going to cut it together, I'll put it up and then I go you could, you couldn't even just move your microphone from over there to over here, Mike was on was just sitting over at the side of the desk, so, Claire, you can hear.
Speaker 1:It's not the. I mean, what are you going to do?
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm sorry guys, I'm really sorry. It's just not my natural. This is the winner.
Speaker 1:Dings, XY, Dings. You gotta get a hold of Claire somehow. What did you? What do you want them to do? Tell them what you want them to do.
Speaker 2:Email me, claire C-L-A-I-R-E at belongforgoodcom and just tell me if you'd like an elf or a bobblehead, and you don't have to send me your address.
Speaker 1:I will respond back with a giveaway link from the SP shop store, and if you don't want an elf or a bobblehead, you can get a sweatshirt, something else, mouse pad or whatever's in the bfu store. Okay, now I've got it all hooked up okay, can I, just can I.
Speaker 2:Can I get to pick some too?
Speaker 1:I'll just draw. Well, yeah, it's a draw, it's automatic. I just say draw again okay, go ahead poof. There we go, guys. We're doing it. See this, I love this. It's impartial. I'm not doing this.
Speaker 2:Oh, but I love partial giveaways. Honey, poodle bone, all right.
Speaker 1:Also, I would have never picked poodle bone. I just that's. I'm not. I like poodles. I'm nothing against poodles, but bones Okay, poodle bone. Whatever she said last time, email Claire. Whatever she said on the last one, you can rewind it claire at blownforgoodcom.
Speaker 2:please send me a link to what you'd like there you go.
Speaker 1:Okay, we got two, we got they're, they're shit. Talking about the orcs in the comments, all right, I love it, let's do it draw again. We're drawing again. We're doing it. We got one more after this, so if you didn't get you, know we have four more after this we just did two, I know, we had a total of seven.
Speaker 1:Betsy sue yay, oh my goodness, we didn't do that. Let's see. Sue won that all on her own and that's one of the ones that claire would have been impartial to, I can tell you very definitely for sure.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I just you know, okay so that was number three yep, I'm keeping track on my fingers here. Super high-tech system.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go again. I'm going to draw again Good idea yeah let's do it. Look it. I love how it just picks. You could win twice based on this system. I don't know about that. Oh, homeboy, you opened the good score, beautific vision.
Speaker 2:Okay, congratulations, you're a winner. Send me a link claireblofergoodcom I know, sorry, uh, yeah, there you go. But like I kind of agree, you know we're only human, I would show some partialism that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I like this.
Speaker 2:This is fair yeah, it is important. Sometimes you're faced with hard decisions. You know you don't want to judge people for those. Oh my gosh. Okay, we got two more.
Speaker 1:Congratulations, jeff waltz, you are a winner now the other thing is is it doesn't matter how many times you do it. I think it it picks one person. It knows it's got a little out, it's got a little ai and it's like okay, you know, billy bob. One, two, three. You've already put in 17 entries right, right.
Speaker 2:I mean, now I do feel bad that we have it on slow mode too, but anyway, it's all.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter, because yeah, it only takes you one time and you're true, and you been doing this more than whatever the slow is.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Homeboy wore combat boots to the beach.
Speaker 1:He said I was robbed, it hung I even started saying the name.
Speaker 2:That's how convinced I was.
Speaker 1:He was robbed. Hey man this is talk to Scream Yard. I think they do that just to make people. Okay, here it is. This is the last one, or the second to last, one, second to last. I think they do that to, just to make people. Okay, here it is. This is, this is the last one, or the second to last one.
Speaker 2:Second to last.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:There you go, Congratulations.
Speaker 1:Jeffrey, I do like this. We used to do this every week. I like this. Yep, if you guys like it, don't be afraid, you know what to do.
Speaker 2:Get in there and get some of that, if you prefer our partial selection process, then comment on that too, we're open we're, we're all ears, let us know. Yeah, beautiful vision oh my gosh, I'm so grateful. I appreciate you both so much yeah there you Beautific vision.
Speaker 1:That's what it is. Okay, anyway, this is fun. I like it. Yeah, me too Let us know if you want us to do them more often. Okay, is this the last one? Should we give it a few more minutes? Let people get in there.
Speaker 2:No, no, it's all right. We've already run over time, so I'm sure people are time to wait.
Speaker 1:Oh, my god, you're right. Sorry, I'm the one I never keep track. I have to cover my clock in order to make all the windows fit um look at my new baby oh, not another fur baby. I told them we had a moratorium and we already have another one. Um so much, we did another. That's that's millie. By the way, everybody Winner, lillian M, she got it. Okay, guys, we did them all Again. Email.
Speaker 2:Claire claireblumforgoodcom. That's right, with a link from the SP Shop store as to what you'd like, and you don't need to send address. I will send you a giveaway link, so it's easy peasy.
Speaker 1:It's really cool, guys. You can just go to the SP shop or the. Is it the SP shop or the Blown for Good? Either one SP shop.
Speaker 2:It's the SP shop, sp shopcom, that's right, sp shopcom.
Speaker 1:Why does it have to be the SP shop? Why can't it just be Blown for Good?
Speaker 2:Well, because we're giving away bobbleheads and elves, which are located on the sp shopcom.
Speaker 1:Oh, I see You're right, send a link, and then she just pushed you. Just she just sends it to you and then you just fill it all out and you just get it. That's it.
Speaker 2:Bob's, your uncle.
Speaker 1:Okay, moon age, moon age, daydream says congrats to the winners, yay to everyone that we won and dings XY says thank you.
Speaker 2:Yes, and Betsy Sue, did you see Betsy Sue's comment?
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:Betsy Sue.
Speaker 1:Love you too, yvonne. Congrats winners. Yeah, everybody's now. Everybody's excited that people got stuff. We like doing this guys. We really do have a fun time doing this in the community, and we like you guys being able to hear what's happening. I know we can't always talk about everything that's happening when it's going on, but I'll tell you right now that over the next probably six months or so, there's all kinds of things that are going to be happening and things that are going to be hatching that we've been working on, for some of these things have been in the works for years yeah, on on a scale of one to ten.
Speaker 2:I would say, some are, you know, five and some are definitely tense yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:So we'll have. Um, we'll definitely have stuff to to talk about. I don't know that we're always going to be able to do it every single week, but but if, between Claire's series and doing a live, we'll try to at least have something come out at least once a week or once every other week or something like that. I can't guarantee because we have been super like in the last I'll say last few years. We've both been super, super busy in our own companies and work we've got to do. So it's been, it has been really hard to be to do that and just do stuff with the kids. So to do so now it's kind of getting a little bit of break now that the kids are going back to school, so we have a little bit of time during the day. If we can carve out an hour or two, we can probably do something.
Speaker 2:Yep and say hi to Jackson. He says thank you for the breath of fresh air. Of course, thanks for being here, jackson, we Jackson. He says thank you for the breath of fresh air. Of course, thanks for being here.
Speaker 1:Jackson, we appreciate you and everything that you do. Yeah, and yeah, I hope this is fun. We're going to put this out. So this will be on the podcast. This will be on X. This will be on YouTube.
Speaker 1:I stopped doing any other platforms because it's just I, it's just a waste of I, just I don't have enough time in the day to be logging into some weird gamer Twitch thing because there's eight people that watch over there. So those are the three platforms that we're doing. Um, if you like and subscribe, or like and share or follow or flip and dip, whatever it is on, whatever the platform it is, we appreciate it. And, um, and I have this, um, I have this hit uh, nifty, nifty, uh, end dad, that says all the stuff I just said anyway. So if you forgot, you can look there.
Speaker 1:Um, I'll put a link up to the surge video. If I, if there's some link that I said I was going to put up and I didn't put up, just let me know in the comments, I'll see it and then I'll put the link up and before I go, that's the last thing I just remembered I'm going to share it right now. I got to do this. I said I'd do this for Christy Tell them what it is and then I'll put the link up the Christy's thing and Tampa.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, yes, Okay. We would ask that you vote for our dear friend, christy Colburn and her business on Tampa's website. We've been voting every day. It takes a village and village. Please join us in showing some support for this amazing small business. Christy, like me, is an entrepreneur and has built her business from the ground up. It's a business that is her passion. She provides doula services in the Tampa Bay area, so you can show support by voting for her. It's under Buddha Belly Services. Hopefully I got that all right. Okay, yay, awesome. Oh, roll Tide. Gosh, I just botched that. Roll Tide. Y'all is in the chat.
Speaker 1:You made her choke on her. Whatever the word's there, roll Tide.
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness this is the site.
Speaker 1:You're going to go to this site. Okay and Best of the bay voting, and there it is. You're going to go to service and it's under midwife Midwife. Midwife slash doula there you go. And it's Buddha belly doulas there you go Boom, easy peasy. And then, and you can just put in an email, you can put in whatever email, you can put Billy Bob, one, two, three and hotmail, um, or you can sign in with Google and you can vote every day, um, but um, either way, um, go and vote for Chris, for Christie.
Speaker 2:If you'd like to, it's uh, you know we're small business owners, go do it Okay it's.
Speaker 1:you know we're small business owners, go do it, okay it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:We're small business owners. We really appreciate the hard work and the passion that it takes to commit to doing this, as well as the rollercoaster ride it can sometimes present with, you know, things changing in the economy and all that. So, anyway, shout out to Christy.
Speaker 1:And I'll put a link in the description. If you couldn't figure that out, you can just click on it. Best midwife, best midwife Dula Buddha belly.
Speaker 2:There you go Awesome.
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