Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed
Marc Headley worked at Scientology’s secret desert compound, which houses all Scientology management, for 15 years. The 500-acre property is located deep in the California desert. The local townspeople were told lectures and films were made there. But is that all that was happening? It is the location of a multi-million dollar home for L. Ron Hubbard, built two decades after his death. It is the home of Scientology’s current leader, David Miscavige. So what really happens at the Int Base? Are the stories on the internet true? How does Scientology conduct management of its day-to-day operations? Could stories of armed guards, weapons, staff beatings, and razor wire fences be true? If so, how could a facility like this exist in modern-day America? Hundreds of staff tried to escape over the years. Some succeeded but were never seen or heard of again, and most failed. Why were people kept here? What really went on at the headquarters of Scientology? This is the story of what happened behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology.
Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed
Sea Org Life: Inside the 109-Hour Workweek - Scientology Secrets#12
Ever wondered what happens when you compress four decades of work into just 15 years? The math is staggering. At 109 hours per week—a conservative estimate—Sea Org members pack more work hours into their service than most people will complete in their entire careers.
The schedule begins at 7:45 AM with a bus ride to the compound, followed by a brief breakfast and mandatory muster where every staff member is accounted for. Then comes production time—making movies, cleaning facilities, manufacturing materials, or whatever your division requires. Lunch lasts a mere 30 minutes (sometimes just 15), including travel time across the 500-acre property. Another muster, more production, dinner, evening work, mandatory study time, and if you're lucky, you might get home by 11 PM to start again tomorrow. The same routine continues seven days a week, with only Sunday morning's "Clean Ship Program" offering a semblance of personal time—though even then, you're cleaning your quarters and doing laundry under supervision.
What makes this schedule particularly insidious is how it deliberately fragments relationships. Despite being married for nearly 14 years while in the Sea Org, we estimate we ate meals together perhaps 40 times total. Our schedules were intentionally staggered by an hour, ensuring the organization remained our primary focus rather than our relationship. Many married couples lived like ships passing in the night, sharing living quarters but rarely sharing experiences.
The financial reality compounds this control—earning roughly $50 weekly (before taxes), members must purchase their own hygiene supplies, laundry detergent, and even pay for laundry machine quarters. This perfect storm of exhaustion, isolation, and dependency creates an environment where questioning one's commitment becomes nearly impossible.
Want to learn more about Scientology's internal operations? We also highlighted a new resource—SCNFiles.com—which now hosts thousands of internal documents, including the complete Office of Special Affairs network orders. These files offer unprecedented insight into how Scientology's intelligence and public relations arm operates.
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Speaker 1:Yeah, we have a good show today. We're going to go through how long Sea Org members work each day and what they do, what they could be doing, and then what that equates. And this is just for you and I. Yes.
Speaker 1:So if you were a Sea Org member at a different location than the international headquarters, you could have had a totally different schedule and did things at different times on different days, but the hours were about the same. Maybe not as long as the imp base, the imp base. Of all the Sea Org bases I've been to, they go a little crazier than a lot of the other ones. A lot of the other ones have to do that when David Miscavige is at their Sea Org base but then when he leaves it goes back to the way it used to be, for the most part, yep, that's fair, okay, so let's get right into it.
Speaker 1:So this is our Sea Org years Now, we worked at the. Both worked at the international headquarters, but we were also at another place before we got there. Yes. So I joined the Sea Org in Los Angeles and I worked at the Hollywood Guarantee Building, 6331 Hollywood Boulevard.
Speaker 2:And how old were you when you joined the Sea Org?
Speaker 1:I was 15 when I joined the Sea Org, and I turned 16 when I was working at Able, and then, right before I went to the base, I turned 17. Okay. And then no, did I turn 16 in 89?
Speaker 2:yep I would have turned 16 in 89 yes, and you got to the base, the headquarters in 1990 in like the end of may 1990 right okay, yes, so I so, and then I worked there from May 1980, 1990.
Speaker 1:Yep. Does that seem right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it does. It does Because the flood happened right after I got there In August 1990,.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, so then, and I left in January of 2005.
Speaker 2:Correct.
Speaker 1:So that's the time period for me. And now, when did you work so?
Speaker 2:I joined. Well, for me, you know, factor in. I was in the Sea Organization's cadet organization from age four to 10. But then when I started my own billionaire contract, I was 16, and that was in July of 1991. July of 1991. And by September of 1991 is when I had been moved to the headquarters in Gilman hot Springs 97, where I was in Clearwater Florida.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but for most of that time period your schedule was relatively similar.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Oh, and we should say this Pretty much the entire time, we were at the base and we were married, we were on different schedules so our meal times were off by one hour. So I would eat at lunch but not the same lunchtime you would go to. You would go an hour after I went and dinner and breakfast and and go home. Going home and coming into the morning, everything was shifted an hour.
Speaker 2:Yes, so even though we were married, by the time we escaped, we had been married for 13, going on 14 years. That's true. And we could probably say that we ate together maybe 40 times in those years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe. Maybe, Because even when we were on the same schedule, you were part of the qual division. So sometimes if there was a session or there was something that went into a meal, then you would just go after the meal or you wouldn't go at all, and sometimes I was doing the similar thing, or I was on the night shift, or you were off the property, or you were in Denmark, or you were at an event, or you were elsewhere.
Speaker 2:But yeah, like we, very like, I think originally when we first got married in August 1992, we ate together, you know, a few times at the beginning.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe a few times a week. Yeah. When our schedules were sort of the same and there was nothing crazy happening. Then we would eat, maybe-.
Speaker 2:Which was very rare, by the way.
Speaker 1:So we maybe eat two or three times a week at that time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so maybe it was more than 40. But nonetheless, the point being in 13 and a half years we were 100%. It's fair to say we were ships passing in the night in terms of schedule, that is absolutely on point.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that's the years we worked there. Now this is the math of how that works. Okay, I'm just wanting, we want to go through it. So this is for me, from May 1989 to January 4th 2005. Yep. Yeah, okay, good, so you get up at 745. And, like I said, different Seaork bases have different schedules, but this was the schedule for me at the end base. For most of the. The schedules always change too. They, they tweak things and exercise time comes in and then exercise time goes out.
Speaker 2:Then this comes in time goes in, study time goes out. It's important to mention too that though we have study time listed here by the policy written by L Ron Hubbard called the Student's Guide to Acceptable Behavior, for a student to attend study, they have to have had adequate sleep, adequate food, not drunk any alcohol not a problem there for Sea Org members nor taken any drugs again not a problem there for Sea Org members. And so if you're not studentable, then you just keep working, or sometimes, as punishment, they would put you on doing like filing or some kind of menial task.
Speaker 1:That's true. I didn't realize that it used to be. If you weren't studentable, you would just go to the course room and say, hey, I didn't sleep enough, I can't study tonight. And they'd be like, okay, fine, you're not leaving, you're going to do work for us here. That's right, and as a punishment, so that you don't just get out of having to go to study, you still have to show up, right, cause some people would need to get work done, they'd be like, oh, I'm just going to tell them I didn't sleep, or just make something up, and some people would just not go. But if you didn't go, god, this is going to take forever.
Speaker 2:The other thing the ethics officers were supposed to go around at study time and kick everybody out of their offices and make them go to study time. So, it was like anyway.
Speaker 1:Anyway, these things would come on and off. Sometimes they'd be kicking you, but they go to study.
Speaker 2:This is going to be a very deep conversation on the ultimate bureaucracy of life in this organization.
Speaker 1:Anyway, let's just go through the schedule, We'll talk, we'll highlight things as we go, yeah, but I just want to say this after every meal at least after every meal there is what's called a muster. Yes, and a muster is supposed to take like five minutes, but sometimes it can take five hours. Yeah, they're just counting everybody to make sure we didn't lose anybody between this meal and the last meal. Yes. And they want to just count their chickens. At least three times a day, sea Org members are counting their chickens.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so what does that look like? You have all the staff. So when I first got to the property, there were about I don't know 500 plus staff in Golden Era Productions.
Speaker 1:Oh no, it was more like 300. The base had 500 people but gold had about gold at some. Of its biggest was in the 300s.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you have 300 staff.
Speaker 1:Golden Era Productions.
Speaker 2:Minus out security who can't leave their posts, minus out people on the night shift or anyone who's just not available. But so let's say it's 250 people all line up outside Massacre Canyon Inn, which is the dining hall at the property. You line up by division, so there's seven divisions. Sometimes, well, there's multiple production divisions. So let's say there's 10 divisions. All the executives line up up front. The division head of each of each division stands up front with everyone lined up behind them in pristine lines, and then they do a roll call and the ethics officer calls it off Division one president accounted for officer calls it off division one president accounted for. And then they would have to say you know, billy bob is unaccounted for or you know anyone who they didn't know where their whereabouts.
Speaker 2:They would have to say those names and the yeah the, the, the ethics officer would take notes of that and then, immediately right after the muster, go track those people down right yeah, and then sometimes, when they would read somebody out, you'd be like, oh that guy's long gone like somebody who's had been in trouble for weeks and weeks, and weeks.
Speaker 1:And then they're like hey, uh, alex billy bob is unaccounted for.
Speaker 2:You're like oh, alex billy bob done got a head start on you guys and I would like to mention always there was the the most incidents of that type of conversation on Sunday at lunchtime. Yes. After we'd had two hours of CSP.
Speaker 1:That's what it was called Clean ship program. It's basically where you do your laundry and you clean. We weren't on a ship.
Speaker 2:Nor was it a program. You just have to do your laundry and clean your room. Nor was everything Then your room is then that afternoon going to get a white glove inspection.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, yeah, okay, you know we haven't even gotten past breakfast, I know, okay, you got to. Let me read the schedule.
Speaker 2:Go right ahead, honey, you go ahead.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:There's just a lot of context.
Speaker 1:We haven't even gotten to breakfast yet.
Speaker 2:We haven't even gotten on the bus. Okay, I'm providing telecommentary breakfast, yet we haven't even gotten on the bus.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm providing color commentary.
Speaker 2:Okay, as I'm trying to do, play by play, to reenact a day in the life of a Sea Org member, that's that's my attempt here, Okay, good, here we go, 745 to eight.
Speaker 1:So at this time again, this is for us. We lived 15 minutes from the property in Hemet, california, in an apartment building called Kirby Gardens on Kirby Street in Hemet. Okay, so we would leave there at 745 and get on a bus and the bus would take us to the property and then at 8 o'clock to 8.30 was breakfast. Now, some years, breakfast was only 15 minutes and muster-.
Speaker 1:Some years all meals were 15 minutes and then muster would be at eight, 15 or it would it would it just the they changed over the years, but pretty much every year we started at the same time and we ended at the same time, no matter what happened in the middle. Yep. So eight, 30 to 12, that's production. So if you work making widgets or you're cleaning toilets or making movies or supervising people doing courses, your production time is when you do that.
Speaker 2:Yep. And at the start of each day, you have to prepare a battle plan, which is that's Scientology's.
Speaker 1:If we're going to do the whole day, we're never going to get through even this one slot.
Speaker 2:It's relevant. So you have everything on your battle plan as to what you're going to do that day to get your statistics up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and here's the crazy thing Okay, when you get in the after breakfast, you got to make sure you have a BP. That's a battle plan. And then you got to make sure that you're marking your graph every single hour. So if you make cassettes where I work or you make a, you're doing VHS tapes or whatever, you got to count those every hour. You've got to mark it on a graph by your at your desk and and that is referred to as a seven R graph which is from L Ron Hubbard's executive series 7R.
Speaker 1:Yes, Anyway, and it's talking about the ultimate micromanager.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God Dude and that's not even the only graph, by the way.
Speaker 1:You have a weekly graph as well, and a monthly graph? No, yeah, weekly.
Speaker 2:As our kids would say Daily and weekly. As our kids would say Bruh.
Speaker 1:Bru, yeah, weekly, as our kids, daily, and weekly, as our kids would say brah, brah, okay, um, anyway. So then is it, are we? Still live and people even watching this. Okay, hello. So if you don't have you, when you, when you first start for the day, you got to make sure you have all that stuff yes okay, and then you work from breakfast until lunch. You have lunch. Again it's a half hour, Sometimes it was 15 minutes. It would shift 15 or forward whatever.
Speaker 2:And, by the way, let me just interject one thing. So, the compound is 500 acres, okay, so this is relevant because if you work on like a mile away from the dining hall, you will not be caught dead departing for lunch even a minute early.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lunch is from 12 to 1230. That includes your travel time. If your building is 15 minutes and people would do this all the time. If your building is 15 minutes from where the mess hall is, then you're going to eat up 15 minutes of that half hour just getting there, yep. And if the meal breaks 15 minutes, this is a problem, yes, so what?
Speaker 2:people would do just a cool nightmare.
Speaker 1:People would do. People did this all over the property. Just a cool nightmare. What people would do? People did this all over the property. They'd be like, hey, I got to go bring this over to the services division which is in the back of the galley. You'd have to bring something to some building near the mess hall right before a meal, and if you could swing that, you'd be like, hey, I'm going to run this over to Billy Bob over in Cine, and Cine was right next to the mess hall, and then the cinematography division where I worked for many years, and then you could, you could bring that over to them and and then you could just be like, hey, here's a piece of paper.
Speaker 2:I wanted to bring you how convenient. Look at that it's 1159 and 59 seconds. What ta-da.
Speaker 1:How convenient. Look at that. I'm going to head on over 11.59 in 59 seconds. What amazing timing I have.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you go eat lunch, then there's another muster. Then from lunch to five you work, okay. And also, when you're in the Sea Org and you're working, if you ain't getting to doing something, you're going to get smoked out pretty quick. So, like if you're one of these people who likes to kind of mill about and do busy work, yeah, that's not a thing in the Sea Org there's no such thing as busy work. You're either working or cleaning, that's it. And if you ain't got work to do or studying, you got cleaning to do. Yeah, okay. So then from 5 to 5. Yeah, okay. So then from five to five 30 is dinner.
Speaker 1:From then this and this is like I said, that different Sea Org bases they study in the morning, or they study in the afternoon, or they study in the the. They study all day, two days of the week, or they have it all different. But at this property, from five 30 to, there's a muster again at 5.30. And then from 5.30 to 6.30, you just go back to work or you do your meetings, your end of the day meetings, or whatever, and then you go and you have cleaning stations. Every day Sea Org members have to clean where they work. There's no cleaners In most Sea Org places. There's no cleaners that are assigned to the property, unless it's like a premier property or something that has to be cleaned. It's too much space for just the people that work there to clean, like at the Golden Air Productions we had a studio and we had a studio cleaner and she had an assistant.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just because the studio had giant spaces. Yeah, and same for the dining hall. There were one or two people who would clean that whole space yeah, and don't think they call them cleaners in the sea org.
Speaker 1:They were. They were doing crazy stuff way back, okay for a long time, especially golden era productions, at least in the 90s yep it was a sanitation engineer. Okay. If you're taking out garbage, you're an engineer. Yep, okay, yep.
Speaker 2:You're like, and then there's a deputy You're doing stuff with plastic, you know composites recycling.
Speaker 1:There's some science in this thing, yes, and some engineering. Okay, Then from 7 to 1030, again different places had different schedules.
Speaker 2:People go crazy when I would say we did this, oh, no, 7 to 9.30. That's it, because it was two and a half hours oh sorry.
Speaker 1:So 7, yeah, and it usually was a little. They try to get you a little out of there before 10. Yeah. Because people are just going to start falling asleep anyway. Yes. Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because people are just going to start falling asleep anyway. Yes, okay. So yeah, it's 7 to 9.30. It's a policy that any actually any Scientologist, but also obviously Sea Org members are supposed to get 12 and a half hours of study per week, which is five slots of two and a half hours a day. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, then you would have exercise time and then travel to birthing, or you know, depending on what was going on, that there could be. That schedule could be you would leave at 1045 and get home at 11, or maybe you'd leave at 1145 and get home at 12, or there was a 145 bus, a 245 bus, yeah, and, and just to reiterate, this is a very conservative estimation because, it's fair to say, exercise was the first thing to go.
Speaker 1:So, like in my case, I did exercise time the first year we were there, um, so maybe you know, know that first year, but after that I didn't do exercise yeah, exercise time was one of those uh love hate, because people would be like, oh, we get exercise time, and then if you went to exercise time and then david miscavige showed up in your area and he's like, hey, where's mark? And then somebody says he might be at exercise, sir.
Speaker 2:And he'd be like that's giddy motherfucker.
Speaker 1:Is it exercise? What's up with that? He don't need no exercise. Or he would do the exact opposite. He would show up to exercise time and he'd be like where is everybody? Aren't you guys supposed to get your pay docked if you don't go to exercise? And then people are starting to then get their pay docked because they didn't go to exercise. And then he goes to your area and like where was Billy? He's like, oh, he's at exercise, like goddamn worker, oriented Right. And you're just like oh.
Speaker 2:And Kenny Siebold was the exercise. What was his title?
Speaker 1:He was the well. He was the sports fields in charge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was his actual post, but he was responsible for exercise time.
Speaker 1:But he was actually a. He was in grounds.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:He was in the grounds department. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And he mowed the lawns that were on the exercise fields and he just happened to also be the exercise instructor, and also because Dave's exercise building was down where exercise time was supposed to be held, and he had his own gym and bikes and treadmills and all this fancy dancy equipment, anyway, okay. Okay, now you go home for the night and then you're basically you're supposed to sleep at least seven hours. That's kind of like the unspoken rule to be able to be sessionable or studentable, you have to sleep at least seven hours.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which means you get home, you get ready for bed you go to sleep and you wake up in the morning. Like the amount of times that we actually had capacity. I mean, I don't know about you, I couldn't fall asleep. I would read a book because I was off purpose.
Speaker 1:I don't know, but that was the basic schedule for the basic day, which is, let's say, and we're underestimating it Dramatically let's say, it was called where, and we're underestimating it Dramatically.
Speaker 2:Like there there are. You'll see when we get to the next slide why we're, why we're prefacing this.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, because you. There was the amount of times you went home on the three 40, the two 45 bus instead of the right or when you were doing.
Speaker 2:You know you are under a justice action. So you had to be making amends and burning the midnight oil, as they would say.
Speaker 1:Yeah, burning the midnight oil. We burned all the oil, midnight oil.
Speaker 2:We have none left. We are dead out of midnight oil.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that's like a Monday through Saturday schedule. Yes, on Saturday we did renovations, but we took up the whole day. That's what I'm trying to say, even if we did something different. We did renovations but we did it. We took up the whole day. That's what I'm trying to say, even if we did something different. We weren't doing it less. Sunday you got to do what's called clean ship program, which is, you got to wash your laundry and clean your room, and that went from 9 to 11.45. Yep.
Speaker 1:And that is basically in terms of free time. That's your free time for the week.
Speaker 2:It's an it's a stretch to call it free time.
Speaker 1:I understand, but it was time, it was time.
Speaker 2:Officers would come around to and that's true, to make sure you hadn't overslept. And yeah actually cleaning your rooms.
Speaker 1:That's right, of course. I was going to say there was a time where you just you just sleep in to 1145,. Get up and go and just be like yeah, I did my laundry on Thursday night middle of the night, I'm good to go. Yeah, okay so. But then they started doing musters at where you lived. Yes, that's right, so everybody would have to go out and round. They'd round everybody up.
Speaker 2:That was a rough looking muster man.
Speaker 1:That's, oh my God, people would come in their underwear. Yeah. Basically, just like who cares?
Speaker 2:Like they just came out of bed.
Speaker 1:And a t-shirt, no shoes, no socks. Okay, yep, that's clean set program, then you. Then, right after that, it basically flips over to the exact same schedule. So we are saying, though, that that 9 to 11.45, that's your time. We're not going to include that in the hours we're giving you those hours.
Speaker 2:Yes, even though it's not free time. Again, we've done a very conservative estimate for the sake of you know, painting a very clear picture of the best case scenario.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Which it rarely was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now, I'm not a mathematician, so there could be some errors in this math.
Speaker 2:For the most part, ballpark.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're ballparking it and we're erring on the side of low.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Because we know it's more than this. We know, we lived it. Yep. Okay, so you're working 109 hours a week. That's the least amount of a week. There's no week in any Sea Org that's going to be a vast number lower than that. Right, they're all at least working about this. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Just depending on how much more they work could vary from base to base, and by the way, as a comment, this also is great context to mention that elder Sea Org members are sometimes put on a shortened schedule.
Speaker 1:Which is around 80 hours.
Speaker 2:So, for example, yes, exactly, there was a um, a staff member we were working to help escape from Los Angeles. Not that long ago. He had been diagnosed with stage three cancer and he was put on a reduced schedule of 40 hours a week.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's where these numbers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, guys, seriously, yeah, it's bad, it's hardcore, yeah, okay. So 109 hours a week, that's 5,668 hours a year, okay, 5,668. Now, in work weeks, that's 2,218 work weeks.
Speaker 2:Right. So if you factor in, most people in the real world have a job and they work 40 hours a week and maybe they get you know, between Christmas and July 4th and vacation, maybe they get two three weeks off. So again, they got two three weeks off. Yeah, so again, we haven't factored that in, we're just saying 52 weeks in a year of a 40-hour work week. That's what it translates to is.
Speaker 1:It's 42 years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 42 years.
Speaker 1:In the regular world at a 40-hour a week job, and I know some people don't work a 40-hour week. Some people work a 50 or a 60 or an 80. I understand that, but if you were just doing a nine to five job, that's 42 years of that.
Speaker 2:So which you did in 14, 15 years I squeezed 42 years into 15 years. It helps for context to understand why we have stories for years.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, and so how many hours is that? That's 88,726 hours, Right? So when you say well, how long did you do that for? Well, I only did it for three years. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I was clocking in 5,600 hours a year, under three years. So even though I did that for three years, I did it for 15,000 or plus hours, right, just right, because that's how long I was working on it, right? So some of the things that I worked on at least 10,000 hours on is audiovisual manufacturing of cassettes, vhs, laser discs, cd and DVDs, audiovisual quality control, av systems manufacturing, first assistant director, video production, video and film pre-production, film production, video production, av systems, design and integration. Those were all the things that I worked on during that time. Design and integration, those were all the things that I worked on during that time. Now I worked on a ton of other things too. We did construction. I did electrical plumbing, drywall, stone, veneer, concrete.
Speaker 1:I did so many things, but I didn't do them 10,000 hours I only did those about four or 5,000 hours, so I didn't even them. 10,000 hours, right? I only did those about you know four or 5,000 hours, so I didn't even include those on the list, right? Those are just hobbies.
Speaker 2:Because what is it? They say it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:At something or something like that.
Speaker 1:Okay. So that's me. That's a lot. Now that I'm looking at it like this, that's a lot, okay. The only thing you can't get back you can make as much money that you want to get, you can't get the time back.
Speaker 2:Nope.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Here's Claire, all right. So Golden Era Productions, I was in the staff training department from 1991 until 1996. And I had the same schedule. However, as we've mentioned, because I was in the staff training department and my position was supervisor, which is closest real world equivalent is teacher. But Hubbard policy dictated that you had to have one supervisor teacher to 20 students and that ratio had to be in place no matter what, or heads would roll. So there were many times when I just had to work through meals because I either had nobody to replace me and there were students still studying or whatever. So there you go. But yeah, during these years was the closest amount of time where I would somewhat sometimes be on a similar schedule to you. Yeah, even though we worked on opposite sides of the property and therefore we rarely saw each other. So, yeah, yeah, but again basically the same schedule 16.25 hours a day.
Speaker 1:Same things Mustards, production, study time, all the same stuff.
Speaker 2:Exactly Okay, then, from 1996, march 1996 until January 24th, or actually no 96 until it was September, october 2004.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this says to 2004, because you got kicked out of RTT and I got put in the hole yeah, but your schedule was pretty much exactly the same. That didn't change.
Speaker 2:Yep, so again. So the management organizations and religious technology center were on a one-hour later schedule. That way the dining hall. So the dining hall had two shifts for breakfast, two shifts for lunch, two shifts for dinner and so forth. So basically, and I would, my allocated study time was in the morning, from 930 to 12. And then again the rest of it is basically the same.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, ok. So there's those hours.
Speaker 2:Yep, so again, 109 hours per week. Very, very conservatively, 79,352 hours, which for me was the equivalent of 38.15 years If you're measuring those hours worked against a 40-hour work week in the real world.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's so crazy.
Speaker 2:And yeah, areas I worked staff training, staff auditing or counseling. For one year I was training to be an RTC representative in Clearwater, florida, then staff correction, where I was involved with overseeing and correcting management executives, and then, from 2000 to 2004, rtc internal, which was staffing, human resources, finances, training, et cetera. And I put I added gold manufacturing, all hands on there, because do you remember that I, while I was in Religious Technology Center, I was the fastest CD stuffer on the entire property?
Speaker 1:Which was kind of funny because I was a manufacturing guru and she was a manufacturing guru and we also. There was a time period at Golden Era Productions where this giant castle called the Cine Castle, the cinematography division's studio, was housed by a castle, yes, and they cleared out all of the sets in the studio, every single last piece of set or equipment or film crew lighting, anything, and they turned it into the manufacturing division of golden era production. So we had shrink wrappers in there, we had forklifts, we had all of the equipment that you would find in a, in a manufacturing facility, inside of a film studio, and the entire property. It didn't matter where you worked. You had a job in manufacturing.
Speaker 1:You were either a shrink wrapper, or you stuffed CDs into these special binders, or you everybody did. And even though I was the head of the manufacturing division, I was a much better shrink wrapper than any other shrink wrapper manufacturing division. I was a much better shrink wrapper than any other shrink wrapper. So during an all hands where everybody on the property came to do stuff, I would run the shrink wrap machines because that was the fastest. I was the fastest and I could also fix them if they broke, and they always broke.
Speaker 2:So um as is likely to happen when you operate something close to 24 hours a day.
Speaker 1:So Claire did 79,000.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, and then I included attending meetings with David. Miscavige, because you know, gosh, I should figure out one day what the actual figure of hours of meetings attended, but it was depressing how much it was so here's a great question.
Speaker 1:I'm going to do it right now, just because it's code monkey oh, code monkey question.
Speaker 2:not to get personal, but why do people in the Sea Org get married? If you never see your partner, how can you have any sort of relationship? Yeah, that is a really good question.
Speaker 1:And I will give you the very down and dirty answer yeah, One in the Sea Org. You can't be messing around if you're not married. So that's one good reason.
Speaker 2:And the threat of going to the rehabilitation project, for should your hand slip and touch you know an intimate location, then then that's not going to be good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the other reason, it's a very tragic outcome.
Speaker 1:Is. I don't know how it is at other Sea Org bases In Los Angeles you could be in a dorm with 20 other dudes At the base. It was usually only about four or five other people in one birthing. Sometimes it got a little crazy, but usually for the most part it was four or five people in your dorm that you would have to share a bathroom and then maybe some sleeping things with or whatever. Share a bathroom and then maybe some sleeping things with or whatever, but if you were married, just one person.
Speaker 2:See how that works you just gave me a flashback of the time when marion pow was making trying to force me to divorce you yeah um, and I sent you that letter with the rings and which, by the way, we have that letter. It's's so embarrassing, mortally embarrassing.
Speaker 1:I'm going to read it to everybody one day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll do it.
Speaker 1:She's like send me her rings.
Speaker 2:Part two, and I didn't say I wasn't asking for a divorce. It was how I got Marion off my back, but I will never forget that you were like what the heck Laughable. Why are you giving me? What is with this letter? Could, with this letter, could we not have had a conversation first and then you were like you cannot do this to me. Literally, all I'm going to be seeing is hairy butts for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1:I was like I ain't moving out. You can divorce me, but I'm we're staying in the same bed, still in the same room.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's a that's a sad but true folks.
Speaker 1:Okay, a lot, a lot Is that. It Is that the end, thank you yeah, there we go okay, before I forget, it's my friend chris's birthday.
Speaker 2:I told him I was gonna do this yeah, happy birthday chris, um okay chris is our very dear mutual friend.
Speaker 1:He's actually the friend I've had since I was five years old and he also used to work at the base in that all in the cinematography division with me. Yeah, he and I were in the cadet for all you spies out there trying to keep track of this. Should we do the giveaway? I have something really cool I want to talk about after the giveaway. Also, by the way, oh yeah, yeah, remember we got other stuff we got to do. Yeah.
Speaker 1:We get 20 minutes Go ahead. Davey dolls. That's our new thing, davey dolls. We're coming up on christmas. We're coming up on christmas, we got to get rid of these davy dolls?
Speaker 2:I have so many of these. Should we do a dave on the shelf competition?
Speaker 1:we should, actually we should. If you have one of these, that's a good idea yeah what should we give away if they were the mike and leah signed bobblehead? Yeah, the one that has the signed headshots.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:With both of them signing it, and then one of each bobblehead. Yeah. If you take a picture, that's really good. Let's try not to do AI. I kind of feel bad. I think maybe we should do one AI and one real world.
Speaker 2:Okay, so two categories, you're saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you can't really compare them together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but if somebody Photoshop's or does something funny and it's really really good, then we should recognize it. Yeah, because some people are not going to take. They're not going to take this and go to the.
Speaker 2:We should include the elements of creativity, not only the picture but the title, like dave in a cave, you know well, yeah dave on a wave. Dave dave trying his hand at a stave.
Speaker 1:Whatever, dave in a cave anyway, okay, holy moly, okay, but from now on, all the giveaways we're going to do on the channel until we don't have any more of these little guys, if you win, you win this. Yeah, because we got to get rid of these. We got a lot of these.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna say there's a lot of davy elves in the world, but there's also a lot there's, you know, probably about a third left, so we would like to.
Speaker 1:We got to get rid of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, these are great for dog treats and contrary to what scientology says outside saint hill in the united kingdom, they do not cause alarm and distress.
Speaker 1:That's true, they literally and you know there's a weird thing happening on YouTube. I can never add these anymore to the store for some reason.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I noticed that too. It's because they're self-fulfilled. I don't know why I have to contact fourth wall and see if I can do that. Cause I noticed the same.
Speaker 1:Like we can't add the foundation cards no, that doesn't make sense, because the books, I can add my books and my books oh, okay take another stab at it. Um, you can um pour catnip all over these things makes for some amazing video put it in a ball, in a ball jar. Yep and seal with catnip and your cat will love this toy for the rest of time.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:We have three cats. We do we have three cats and two dogs. It's like a circus up in this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's the same amount of animals as there are humans, which personally I think is a nice balance.
Speaker 1:Anyway, they love these things, dogs and cats alike. They love them. They rip these things and they they're pretty strong. They do have a little Velcro thing on here so you can hang it from stuff.
Speaker 2:But you know other than that.
Speaker 1:Anyway, get in there and get some of them. They're on the SP shop. I'll put a link in the description, but they're on the spshopcom and every one of these that we sell. The proceeds go to the Aftermath Foundation to support the Aftermath Foundation and buy yourself a Captain Space Navy, davey, fakie, wavy, whatever they call them on the SP shop. Get yourself one of these. We're going to do a drawing. It says zero entries.
Speaker 2:It may need to be refreshed or maybe we said it wrong, so you have to do a hashtag and we didn't tell folks.
Speaker 1:No no.
Speaker 2:Hmm, okay, here Time. Today we will be doing part two of an interview with John Christensen, so this stream will redirect to that, but if you haven't subscribed to the YouTube channel over there, we would greatly appreciate your support. It's a very, very easy way to support the work that we do at the Michael J Rinder Aftermath Foundation.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Here we go.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I did figure it out, I think somewhat, but it's only got 27 drawings, so I know that it's got more than that. So if you want to, I'm going to. We'll do it at the end. We'll do it at the very end.
Speaker 2:Yeah, perfect. So if you want to enter in to win, any comment is automatically entered, or should be.
Speaker 1:It probably wasn't hooked up or something at the start Okay, yeah, so all good.
Speaker 1:This is the next thing I want to talk about, and I did link to this in the description. There is a website that is going to now be the repository for it looks like Scientology documents. Somebody sent me this link. They don't want to. They don't want anybody to know who they are, so they just anonymously sent me this, and this is the Scientology database, and it has OSA network orders. It literally has the entirety of the policies that the Office of Special Affairs operates off of, and you can read them on the site Also. They do have this version.
Speaker 2:Oh, I like that one. I didn't see that.
Speaker 1:If you go to the top and say light, it'll turn it back to this version, nice. So if you like the matrix, look.
Speaker 2:Currently, the two databases that are populated on this is the OSA network orders and a glossary.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the documents have a lot of verbiage in them, and so, in order to understand these documents, there is a dictionary of all of the terminology that they use in the C-ORG and in OSA, which is very important. The website is called scnfilescom.
Speaker 2:Yep Sierra Charlie North SCN Files. There you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, listen to Miss Aviation over here, okay, so go check it out if you want to look through these things. There's no question.
Speaker 2:Here.
Speaker 1:I'll show you. Look, actually I have these. There we go. So these are the office of special affairs, osa network orders and it it has. The entirety of them are in here. So I don't know whose site this is and I don't know how long this is going to be up, but if you want to look at any of this stuff, you can download it. And I went there and there was this pdf and I downloaded and it literally it has the purpose, it has the reputation of scientology and l ron hubbard, I mean it's we're talking this slide, uh, this document, this pdf of this thing, it's a lot, it's all of the pages.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yep if you guys want to, uh, go check that out. It's pretty wild. And the other thing is that there are people leaving Scientology and there's not really a place to put these things, so this might actually come in handy. I don't know if there's a way you can send them files. Anyway, I don't know how they'd verify that. I don't know how that would work, but either way, there's 2,847 documents on the website right now. Let's see. We maybe will check back in on this site in a few months and see how much stuff they've added.
Speaker 2:But it's an awesome repository, like you said, because even though there's so much information out there, you kind of have to go to multiple different locations and it can be very, very difficult to know. There's so many awesome versions of books and everything else. So between the glossary and the documents. Oh, let's see. Codemonkey Osa is going to have a fun time trying to figure out who is running this site. Yes, completely.
Speaker 1:That would be a fun thing. Oh, I just saw it looks like we got a. How do you put that up? How do I put up this?
Speaker 2:Crystal, is it like that at every org? At some point the tasks must become repetitive and redundant. Is there some poor soul out there vacuuming the same carpet 12 times every day? Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there is, this is the one.
Speaker 2:But also on the cleaning stations. You have to get inspections with the white gloves so they'll come along and be like you you got dirt well, they're not.
Speaker 1:The shelves down right by where you're at are the problem, it's when they're on the top of doorways right above light and conveniently.
Speaker 2:Many of the ethics officers doing those inspections were incredibly tall.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's true right it's totally true.
Speaker 1:I'm putting this little little davey guy there um dr x. Uh, thank you very much for the super chat. She says hi all. How would you guys communicate when you were separated in different locations? You had the phones, but if you didn't, how would you talk to your spouse? Did you have to get permission to call or write? We will fund the winners. Oh well, that's very nice. You don't have to do that, but yeah, we would. There were times where I might not talk to Claire for like a month or two.
Speaker 2:Or longer, Like when I was in Clearwater and by which time I was in Religious Technology Center because I was classified as being on mission, which means just I was on a special project versus my normal assigned position. Yeah. I would have to have a completed staff work approved by four or five people to be able to call you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't have to have anything like that because I was in Golden Arrow Productions and because you were a rebel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you were supposed to.
Speaker 1:Maybe you did when you were in denmark I didn't need approval to call anybody, I just would call I had to have approval to call you well, yeah, but I was in denmark. Who's going to tell me what to do in denmark? I was the boss of my domain anyway, regardless. Um, we didn't talk that much we did, did not. No, um, okay, uh, let's go back and see if we can do this. I'm going to get rid of that.
Speaker 2:I'm going to get this.
Speaker 1:I'm going to flip back over to here. And then we got 43. Okay, we're going to do a drawing. Here we go Skadoosh. Hopefully I don't win again. I won last week um I'm I didn't comment this week, so it wouldn't be me oh, that's really helpful.
Speaker 2:That's so specific, well, youtube user no, we're gonna redo it oh why.
Speaker 1:Well, if they how are they going to verify they're the youtube user?
Speaker 2:they can say, well, because that's their handle, isn't that their handle handle? I don't know. I mean okay, so listen we're not interested in in any injustices. So, youtube user if you send me an email, clara at blown.
Speaker 1:I guess yeah, I don't think that's how it works.
Speaker 2:Go ahead and do one more. We're we're kind of not sure how this works with a generic handle like that, but you did win, fair and square.
Speaker 1:You're winning a Davey doll, no matter what happens. You're winning a Davey doll, here we go. And Catherine Olsen, I'm telling you man.
Speaker 2:We're not having the best of luck. This DreamYard giveaway tool is. Your cats will love it, catherine. I think she has some, yeah, okay, well, if she doesn't, then I'll send her to one.
Speaker 1:We gotta do it again.
Speaker 2:We gotta do it again never a dull moment over here, and yeah and z news cave there you go, chandra. Okay, congratulations you just won yourself a baby doll, the person who's in colorado too, if I remember correctly?
Speaker 1:Oh well, there you go, We'll save on shipping.
Speaker 2:There you go. Boom Bob's, your uncle.
Speaker 1:Okay, let's see if we can get. You know, I realized I was thinking we could go back to our normal way, which is let's see if I do it.
Speaker 2:Boom, there we go. Boom, there we go. Okay, you want to do some questions? Yes, let's do this. Okay, here we go. All right, manon, when did you have time to buy essentials? Great question, so sometimes. Well, in the early years when we were living in Hemet at Kirby Gardens, if you got your cleaning done, you could do a brisk walk to what was it? Walmart at that time?
Speaker 1:a brisk walk. That's a half hour walk, I know, on a good day yeah, you or some you could bike on your bike. Normal bike walk is too, that that's oh, I've walked it before well, I know, but then you burn, you're burning, uh, 45 minutes there, 45 minutes back back. There's no half hour.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know, my walk counts as a jog, more like.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:We should go there and do do a reenactment Anyway, the point being that sometimes we would be allowed to go into town or to a Vons um to get like shampoo and basic supplies, and that would be if you had saved up enough money from your $46 a week to buy hygiene supplies. However, in what was that? 1993, 1994-ish? That was banned and then they changed it so that the canteen would stock the shampoo and the hygiene supplies.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you had to buy your own laundry detergent. Yep, you had to. You did have to pay for your laundry too.
Speaker 2:You had to get quarters and do all the normal. There were laundry machines at the in the apartment complex but you had to have quarters. I think it was 75 cents to wash and 50 cents to dry, or a dollar to dry or something like that, or a dollar to wash and 75 cents to dry or something like that Either way, that's. That's the answer to that question.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which answers this next question. Did you have to pay to do your laundry.
Speaker 2:Yes, we did. Oh, hi, glenda, good to see you here.
Speaker 1:Yes, we did. Oh, yeah, we did that one. Okay, let me just, I'm just going to, I'm now, I'm just putting up stuff, okay, no worries, Brian question.
Speaker 2:Does the average Scientologist know about the brutal work schedule in the Sea Org? What are their perceptions of life in the Sea Org? Another great question.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I think well, there's two answers to that. Many Scientologists have had stints in the Sea Org at various times, like, for example, my mother. So yes, they know it's a very hard, grueling schedule. They may not know all the ins and outs, but they see the staff at the organizations, and so it's not like this wouldn't surprise them for sure.
Speaker 1:They're not going like oh, I didn't know, you guys work so hard, right, they? They know.
Speaker 2:They know, they know, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Okay, what's this one saying?
Speaker 2:Okay, maybe some of the spy files could go up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll. I'll see if I can reach out to this person or people or whatever and answer back on their weird email they sent and say I mean I'm sure they'll get. I mean those files are they could put those up there? I think they would have to.
Speaker 2:We have absolutely been noticing a significant uptick in emails from under the radar people, which this is not from an under the radar person to be clear we don't know it is. Okay, where does mark buy his shirts?
Speaker 1:now at hot topic no, this is an untuck. It okay, I like these shirts. This I actually got. This is a. I just got this yesterday.
Speaker 2:I like it yeah, there you go it's nice and thin it's colorful it's comfy okay yep, there you go. Auditingology Casey, when is the last time that the ESSO got a raise? Yeah, so I think that's a question Catherine would be able to answer better than I can, but we heard that they did.
Speaker 1:It went up. Like in Florida. It went up. Traditionally Sea Org members make $50 a week. Yep, that's it $50. And then they take taxes out of that, that's it $50. And then they take taxes out of that, so it's actually $46.28 when they're done with that tax as it used to be. It could be different now.
Speaker 1:It was that for many years. But then in Florida we heard a rumor that it went up to $75 or $100 for a little while and then it went back. We were told no, it went back down. So it went up to $100.
Speaker 2:And there's also been periods in there where it was like by direct deposit so it was mandatory, but then there's been a lot of changes so, yeah, we'd have to ask. We'll ask some of the people that are leaving these days which was their last amount, most of the time it's been $50.
Speaker 1:And funnily enough, they'll say it's going to go up, and then it never goes up in the Sea Org. So that's been a thing for a while too. And then we and traditionally Scientology staff members would make more, but then we found out that they make very little. Sometimes they might not even make $20 a week as a Scientology, like a full-time or a part-time Scientology staff member in the middle of Keokuk or something With that.
Speaker 2:it's time for me to teleport.
Speaker 1:Claire's going to leave. I'm going to close this thing out and we're going to. I'll answer a few more questions here. Let me see if I put it there you go.
Speaker 1:Now you can exit clean. Hopefully this sounds good and looks good this week. Guys, we had to redo a bunch of stuff in here. I'm going to tell you guys now that Claire's gone and then we are going to redirect into the Foundation feed. So if you just stay watching, you'll end up with Claire and Phil on the Foundation feed number six I think it is and they're going to do part two with John Christensen, as far as I know. I'm pretty sure that's what it is, so that will be exciting.
Speaker 1:We had a light switch that was up in the ceiling and it was turning on and off during our streams and it did turn on. We now have it just hooked up to a light over in the corner and it did turn on and off right before the stream but it hasn't done anything since it is a smart switch that I don't have set up, so maybe somebody hacked into this switch and they're messing with it during it only does this when we're doing the streams. I have it plugged in and just sitting there and it's been sitting there doing nothing until right before we went live and it turned off and on a few times. Spooky, spooky, spooky.
Speaker 1:Okay, I saw another Dr X question said who would supervise the ethics folks? Security would mainly be the keepers of the people that were in trouble the security guards. You sort of get assigned to a security guard and they're kind of like the one who you have to check in with before you go find a place to sleep on the property and that kind of thing. So if they're looking for you, they need to know where to find you. Okay, guys, I think that's going to do it as normal. I will put up some comments on the screen as we're doing the end, whatever. It's called the outro. Thank you Till next time.
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