Spit 2 Da Beat Podcast

Sustaining the Beat with Cedric Burnside: A Legacy of Hill Country Blues

December 14, 2023 Stacey Be Unstoppable Puryear Season 1 Episode 40
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Sustaining the Beat with Cedric Burnside: A Legacy of Hill Country Blues
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Be prepared to get your groove on as we welcome three-time Grammy award nominee and recent Grammy winner, Cedric Burnside, to the Spit 2 Da Beat Podcast. Lend an ear as Cedric bares his soul about his life, music career, and his monumental win for Best Traditional Blues Album in 2022. He’ll walk us through his musical journey, heavily influenced by his blues musician grandfather, RL Burnside, right from the house parties to the professional tours. You’ll hear about the evolution of his music, the trials faced along the way, and how he stayed authentic to his unique sound amidst criticism and pressure. 

In a heart-tugging segment, Cedric takes us through his childhood, growing up with music flowing through his veins. He reminisces about his first professional tour at the tender age of 13 and how he juggled with grief and responsibility when his music guide, his grandfather, passed away. Discover how Cedric mastered the guitar to continue his family's legacy in music. Fasten your seatbelts as Cedric lifts the veil on his upcoming album "Hill Country Love," giving us a sneak peek with a solo performance. We navigate through his exhilarating journey in the music industry, overcoming challenges, yet staying true to his unique musical style.

As the conversation flows, we also discuss the future of Spit 2 Da Beat podcast. We're excited to announce live broadcasts coming your way on Facebook and YouTube in 2024. Whether you're an emerging artist or a music aficionado, we're thrilled to have you join us in this immersive musical journey. We're also opening doors to other artists to be a part of our podcast, so reach out to us at 901 341 6777 or email us at myguests@spitt2dabeat.com. Remember to subscribe, like, and hit the notification bell on Facebook and YouTube to stay updated. Join us as we rhythmically spit 2 da beat with Cedric Burnside, celebrating the world of Hill Country Blues and the life of its Grammy-winning star.

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Speaker 1:

Hey, what's up? Family? This is your boy, stacey aka be, unstoppable prayer. I am in the virtual studio, in my own studio right now. At this moment. I want to give you a quick update of what's going to happen in 2024.

Speaker 1:

Starting in 2024, split to the beat podcast will be only doing live broadcasts. Yes, all my guests, whether it be virtual or live in the studio, physically with me. We will be going live on Facebook, on my Facebook channels as well as my YouTube channel, spirit to the beat. So if you have not already subscribed to my YouTube channel, please do so. Go to YouTube type in spit and SPIT, the number two, d, a, b, e, at and become a subscriber. Hit that like button and that notification bell so you can keep up with all my latest episodes on my show that will be displayed on YouTube, from the video clips to the full interview. So definitely want to check that out. Again. I want to thank all my listeners and my sponsors for 2023. Thank you so much for helping me grow this podcast and I look forward to you all joining me, my listeners as well as my sponsors, to be a part of spit to the beat podcast as we take it to the next level.

Speaker 1:

Again, just a quick announcement we will be going live only in 2024, throughout the year, if God say the same. I want to thank you for joining me. You will see the bloopers and the blunders and all that behind the scenes stuff as we set up and do a broadcast and we end the broadcast throughout the year of 2024. I really want to invite you into my world that you can see the behind the scenes, the before and the after. So that's what it's all about going in 2024.

Speaker 1:

I'm not embarrassed by going live and making mistakes. I want you to be a part of it as well, so you're gonna laugh with me and leave your comments and stuff like that. Also, you will be able to call into the show. If you have a question for my guests or for myself, you'll be able to call into the show. We will provide that number for you as we are doing a broadcast. Thank you so much for a great year in 2023. I'm looking forward to an awesome year in 2024 with spit to the beat podcast and with the guests that I have lined up for the next year to come. You don't want to miss it. Thank you again for being a part of my show. I love y'all. Y'all have a blessed day.

Speaker 2:

Ha, ha, ha, ha ha.

Speaker 1:

And welcome to spit to the beat podcast. I'm your host, stacey aka be unstoppable prayer, and we are live on Facebook. We are live on YouTube. Make sure you go to my Facebook channel, stacey be unstoppable prayer or Stacey spit to the beat prayer. Log in right now. You can catch and watch us right now. We are live on Facebook as well as on YouTube. Spit to the beat. Don't forget to subscribe, like and hit the notification bell.

Speaker 1:

I really would appreciate your support. Look, ladies and gentlemen, I got a very special guest in the house with me. This man right here. I have known on for a short time, but I call him a friend now. This gentleman has been. He's been doing the music thing ever since 10, maybe nine years old that's what he been telling me before a long time in his life, and he has graced me and privileged me to join this studio of spit to the beat podcast. I'm talking about a three time Grammy award nominated artist, vocal singer, drama guitarist all of that, and now for a Grammy award winner for the best traditional blues album in 2022. I want to thank my guests for joining me today. My man, he's in the building with me as soon as I can get him on. I want to make sure y'all got that. Okay, we good, good, all right. There we go, brother Cedric Burns, how you doing, sir.

Speaker 3:

What's up, what's up, man, thanks for having me. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1:

Glad to be glad to have you on. Look, let's just jump right into it. Ladies and gentlemen, like I said, this man his a Grammy award winner artist. He has paid his dues, he has done his thing and he's here today to share with us his testimony, his trials and aerial. That's what we all about here at spit to the beat podcast teaching our audience about the music industry and entertainment industry. Again, welcome to the show.

Speaker 3:

Thanks a lot, man.

Speaker 1:

Tell us a little bit about Tim Artisan, a little bit about yourself.

Speaker 3:

Well, for those who don't know, you know my name is Cedric Burnside and I've been playing music, you might as well say my whole life. I started out my big daddy, rl Burnside I don't know how many people know him, you know, but he got a pretty good following out there. But you know, he did a bunch of house parties when I was young, I said about six, seven years old. You know I grew up them doing house parties. People will come from miles around man, just to jam out to that music, you know. Yeah, and I was about six, seven years old when I was set there and watch him.

Speaker 3:

I would be one of many, you know, grandchildren just sitting there, you know, in amazement. You know the other kids would be jumping around kicking up dust and I'd just be focused in on that music like man. I want to do that, you know. I want to play that music, you know, and when my big daddy and my dad and uncles, they will, you know, take a break from playing the music and I, um, you know, I finally built up the courage to just get up there and jump on the drums.

Speaker 3:

Oh and um, you know, I'm sure I sounded bad For the first time, but you know it would be. People say, man, look at that little young boy, he gonna be good someday, you know. And and um, you know, I just kept on doing it until I found, you know, a little rhythm. And that was about, you know, six, seven years old, and For an age of 10, I was good enough to play in the juke joints. Who told you Well, my dad was a drummer, uh-huh, his name was Calvin Jackson.

Speaker 3:

Oh you know, he passed 2015. And if there was a guy named Kenny Kimbrough, he's still living today, and another guy named Artemis Sure, he's still living today, and they all was, you know, from around my area. So I I used to watch them as a kid, you know, to just kind of, you know, learn what I could offer. None of them, you know, not even my dad, could ever just sit me down and show me something, because they didn't stay still that long. You know, they was all over the place right.

Speaker 3:

So I would you know, I would watch them when I can and try to mimic what they do, until I just got it, you know, and I'm like self talk.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly, exactly. And so, um, when you know they didn't show up, you know, at the juke joint, which was a lot they love you. I had, I had to be there, you know. So I had to do what I did. You know I didn't know, you know how to play like they play, but I could play good enough to keep the beat, you know, and make the music sound good.

Speaker 3:

Yeah and my uncle, gary Burnside. He would play the bass and so, um, you know, when we get ready to play the music, if the police come to check the place out, they would have to hide us behind the beer cooler, and you know, to keep the music going. And if we had left and went home, they didn't have no band, so they will give us a piece of chicken or something, or a burger or something while we sitting there behind the beer cooler, and when the police leave, we'll get back on the instruments and start playing music again, you know. So one of the benefits, of was eating good.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. So you had a really passionate music, you know, growing up in it. Like you said, the juke Johnson, stuff like that let's bring a little forward now, no real age, and stuff like that. When did you decide to take it to the next level, as far as saying that I might want to make this a career?

Speaker 3:

Well, to be honest, they say I man, I watch my big daddy for so long, you know, and I went on my first professional tour with him at age 13. Okay, and drums was my first instrument and I always knew that I wanted to play this music for the rest of my life. I knew that at a young age, you know. And when I started playing, you know, during my touring with my big daddy professionally, you know he opened the door for the Burnside family, as well as you know other kids. You know I played the guitar for the Burnside family, as well as you know other great musicians. Who's out there that love this style of music, you know? And when I started touring with him, I knew that, you know, this was my start. You know this was my time to do what I need to do to, you know, make my name, you know, be out there, right. And so I played drums behind him until he was, you know, sick and couldn't really play no more. He passed 2005.

Speaker 3:

And you know, I was, you know, in my early 20s and I was just thinking to myself like man, what am I going to do? Because I wasn't playing guitar at the time, I was playing drums and there was a guy playing with us, a white guy playing with us, named Kenny Brown. So when my big daddy got sick and couldn't travel too much anymore run about, he got really ill around about 2003. And he had to stop traveling. So me and Kenny Brown went out and did our thing, you know, and for a couple years. Then my big daddy passed and he went his own way.

Speaker 3:

And then I had to find another guitar player. So I said to myself I was like Lord, I am going to have to learn how to play this guitar. You know, because I, you know, I either had to sound out the music with my mouth and they didn't, you know, barely could catch it. And they were like, well, what key is it in? And I don't know, I can't tell you, I can sign it out to you.

Speaker 3:

And so we we finally, you know, come to some kind of you know, agreement with how it sound. I said, you know what? That's close enough. And we did it, you know. So once I learned how to play the guitar, then I could show them, you know, what I want to play and what I wanted to sound like, because when I learned how to play the guitar. I wasn't, you know, great at it. I was just good enough to play this song and show them. And so I had to change that. You know, I had to really get focused and, and you know, focus in on that guitar and really bring my sound in. And by me being around my big daddy for so long, his sound, you know, just captured my heart. That old school sound captured my heart.

Speaker 1:

And that's the thing I want to talk about a little bit. Tell me, what is Hill Country Blues.

Speaker 3:

That's a good question. Well, it's really, it's native to our, you know, part of the world. You know I was born in. I was born, actually born, in Memphis, on the road I got to tell you this little story before I go there my mom was pregnant with me and they were the only way back to Mississippi and her water broke, and her water broke in Memphis. So I, you know, I had to be born in Memphis and I was here for three or four days and then I went on back to Mississippi, you know. But, um, you know how I got To the point one. Well, I met now is just by. You know, listen at my big daddy and his sound captured my heart and In our area the music called Hill Country Blues because we're in the hills right.

Speaker 3:

And so the Hill Country is. You know the style of the music and so people get it mixed up with Delta. You know, like clogsdale, yes, that's the Delta. You know they still do the the one, four, fives and you know all of that like regular blues. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But In the Hill Country, my big daddy and and cats, like junior Kimbrough, you know they didn't use the one for five that much and that's what made it different from any other blues. It's because they would probably still in the one for the whole song, just about, you know, or they will have these little weird changes in there that made it just Totally different and people will be like, oh man, like what kind of blues is this, you know. So it had its own little thing, you know, and that's what made it stand out. I always tell the people you know it's there on orthodox rhythm. That really makes it stand out for many other blues.

Speaker 1:

Okay, cool. Hey, hold tight, we're gonna talk. We're gonna come back and talk some more about your music. I'm gonna get into this. Grammy, winning this Grammy and all that stuff.

Speaker 3:

Okay, all right, all right.

Speaker 1:

Hey, this is Stacey aka beat, unstoppable per year with spit to the beat podcast. Will you like to be my guest? If you're a singer, songwriter, musician, producer or promoter, give me a call at 9 0, 1, 3, 4, 1, 6, 7, 7, 7 or Email me at my guests at spit to the beat. All right, we'll back this spit to the beat podcast. I'm your host, stacey aka be, unstoppable per year, and we are live in the studio with my very special guest joining me, mr Setchman Burnside, grammy Award winner, artist, all of that. He's joining me in the studio, man, and he's telling us a whole lot about his past and coming up into the music Industry. Won't get into a little bit of talking about this Grammy winning that? You want? Tell us a little bit about that. How did it come about? You know the whole nine yards with that.

Speaker 3:

Well, I have to say I'm very grateful and thank the Lord for everything. But just, you know, playing this music for so many years, people started to get the hang of what Hill Country Blues was and and started to like it. You know for what it was and you know, after playing with my big daddy all those years and him opening the door, you know he won a lot of awards but he never he never won a Grammy. He did get nominated for a Grammy but he never won one and so, just being the burn side that Won a Grammy for the first time. You know this is the first Grammy for anybody of Hill Country Blues.

Speaker 1:

Wow.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, anybody of Hill Country Blues. This is the first Grammy there was. There was every one, you know, for our little region, you know so so it was a big celebration. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. So I think the Lord for everything and always tell him this, just one of many. You know I'm still working on the second one.

Speaker 1:

Let's say the music that you are. You won the Grammy on what was it entitled in album? I'll be trying. I'll be trying my.

Speaker 3:

I guess you got so much music, man, I have to think about it. Yeah, I'll be trying here we go. Oh I. You.

Speaker 1:

There you have it. What Grammy, what we're in the studio. Spit to the beat podcast. My guest century burn side. Now he's gonna bless us with a little solo Right here in the studio for the first time. Let's join in and watch him play this. So you get away brah.

Speaker 3:

All right, get this thing to. This is a song I wrote. I try to write all my music, but this is a song I wrote called. Please tell me, baby. Okay, I. Please tell me, baby, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what I did wrong, but I want you home. Yeah, I want you home. Pray for me, baby. I. I. Say oh, if you don't come back, ain't that for me? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I. Want you home, I Want you home, I want you home, I want you home, I want you home in the building, in the building, baby Well we're in the war winner Grace the studio spent to the big podcast.

Speaker 1:

I'm super excited, man. That was awesome.

Speaker 3:

Thank you, man Awesome.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much. Hey, I know you say you got new music coming out, and next year in April, right? So what can the uh, what can your fans expect?

Speaker 3:

Well, um, you know, uh, it's, it's more great here. Country blues, uh, bunch of energy. It's gonna make you dance a little bit. Excuse me, I'm also gonna make you think a little bit. You know what I'm saying. Um, but, um, uh, I'm happy to put out this new music. Man, I think this is one of the best albums that I have wrote so far. Um, so, yeah, look for it. Um, in the title of the album I can say it now, you know. Finally, okay, um, it's gonna really really, you know, make people feel good. It's called Hill Country Love.

Speaker 3:

Oh oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

How many tracks are we gonna have on that? First On this album.

Speaker 3:

It's about fourteen, about fourteen, about fourteen tracks.

Speaker 1:

Getting a full album.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, Well I always encourage, uh, my guest to tell a little bit about, um, you know you coming up in the industry and, uh, and the difficulties that you face. What did you go through to get to? You know some of some of the memorable moments that can affect you a little bit, to get to where you at now.

Speaker 3:

That's a great question, man. Well, um, you know, um, I took a lot of, uh, constructed criticism that didn't didn't seem, you know, too constructive to me once I started hearing it, you know, um, but, um, you know, I, I played with people that I didn't really want to play for. You know, I did things I really didn't want to do and, um, you know it, it was sometimes where, you know, I wanted to stop, I wanted to quit. You know, um, sometimes, men, uh, the guitar players didn't didn't click, you know, and um, I'm, I'm real, you know, uh, adamant with time.

Speaker 3:

I like to be on time, and then I had people didn't like to be on time. You know, that will be 10, 15, 20 minutes late. Um, and that was something that I just didn't like to deal with, you know, and it was something that I, you know, had to deal with, you know, because I, at the time, I wasn't playing guitar and, um, that was the only guitar player that I could take with me, so things like that that really made me want to, you know, um, just stop doing what I was doing, you know, even though I, I love it, you know, it's my passion. Um, you know, and then there was times when you know you with the, the record labels that didn't really, you know, feel what you was doing. You know, um the record label that wanted to change your music. You know I am who I am. You know my music is raw and um, you know the way I write. It is the way I, I want it.

Speaker 1:

Was it hard keeping that identity. You know I, like you just said, the music industry I want you to change the artist. Yeah. And tell the artist this was working, yeah, yeah, and most of the cases they they're wrong.

Speaker 3:

Well they are. Well, when you sign an artist, you know, uh, you should let that artist be them. You know who they are. You know, peer, uh, from their heart. But you have, um, I have been with record companies that want to change what you do to sound like what they wanted to sound like, instead of sounding you sounding like what you sound like actually. You know, I have had a record company to tell me well, I want to put a horn on this, or well, I want to put harmonica on this. Uh, you know, I want to put some background singers on this. And uh, I was like, well, you know, that's, that's not what my music is. You know, I don't really think background singers should be on this song, I don't think harmonica should be on this song. But in order for you to get that deal, that you won't, you have to kind of bend a little bit. You know, you have to kind of go 5050, and so that's that's the way it goes, you know.

Speaker 1:

So, um, I guess, especially when they put in a lot of money.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but but still, if I this, this just mean the way I feel about it. Uh, if they like your music and they want to sign you, they should still let you be you, because that's the reason they sign you, because you are you. They hurt you, you know right, but that's just the way I feel about it. So, um, I, for a couple of years I'm around about three years I did my own thing, you know, just independent. Uh, didn't go to a record label or anything, and, um, I collaborated with my uncle, gary, and, uh, another guitar player that I used to play with named Trenton Ayers.

Speaker 1:

You was determined not to quit.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, I was determined not to quit man Right and so we did this album called descendants of Hill Country, and that was the first album. I think that was 2015 and that was the first Grammy nomination that we got, and I was independent and that took me a long way. You know, being an independent artist, you know without a label and being nominated for a Grammy, okay, and so that that kind of you know put a little fire on them, a under my feet, and you know, maybe want to do it more, and so around about 2018 I Was nominated for a Grammy again, you know, for Ben counter Relic, and then I finally won On 2022. Would I be trying?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, hold tight one more time. I'm gonna short break and we're gonna be right back. I'll talk more about the Outcoming tour. You don't have coming in 2024. And also, what would you tell artists? You kind of talk, talk a little bit about just then, but I want to come back and give a little inspiration to Potential up-and-coming artists me got you Okay.

Speaker 1:

Hey, this is Stacy aka be unstoppable per year. Thank you for listening to our show, spit to the beat podcast. If you would like to be a sponsor, visit our website at Debbie Debbie, debbie dot. Spit to the beat calm and click the support tab and leave a donation. We really will appreciate. Thank you again for listening. Also, catch every episode Thursday morning and we're back to spit to the beat podcast. I'm your host. They say KV, unstoppable prayer. Again joining me in the studio. My guest, brother Cedric Burnside. Grammy Award winner, artist, vocal drummer. What else? Play.

Speaker 1:

Well, all that Incomers to what your talent is today. Man, I'm true, I'm sure that you have been blessed to so many people with your music. You did a show you said it was in a cave, franklin Tennessee, franklin Tennessee, and that place bringing a lot of artists from all over the United States as well as International right, oh yeah. So how was that experience Playing there? Well, was it your first time?

Speaker 3:

It was. It was my first time playing in the cave period, you know, but I have to say it was a. It was a beautiful experience, man Just sitting there and, and you know, being in the cave and looking at how they, you know, sought up the cave with it, with the chairs, and just with the sound, you would think that the sound would be, you know, awful in the cave, but bouncing all over yeah.

Speaker 3:

You would think it would be that way, but it was actually a pretty amazing sound. You know, they, they I don't know what they did to, you know make the sound good in there, but they, they did a lot of work. They did a lot of work, man, and it sounded awesome. In in the crowd loved it, and you can tell that the crowd is used to going there every year because every year is packed, you know. But yeah, it was. It was a beautiful time.

Speaker 1:

Did they invite you back? Yeah they did they did.

Speaker 3:

But you know, in a lot of places you can't go back. You know, twice like back to back. Okay, you have to rotate. You know they let other artists come in and then the year after then they'll, you know, regroup on Artists that have been in there. But um, yeah, they did invite me back, okay great.

Speaker 1:

Let's talk about your tour. You got coming up in 2024. So you're kicking off in one month, and for how long?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well, um, I hit the road around about the end of February. What were you getting?

Speaker 3:

up of March. I'm doing a Northeast tour the end of February, going all around New York and Connecticut and all those places. Then I'm coming, you know, I come back home for just maybe about a week and then I go down south, you know New Orleans, you know Jackson, mississippi, all them places. I think we're gonna hit Hattiesburg and make our way around to Birmingham, alabama, you know. And then I come home for, you know, just a little bit again, and Then my album drops in April.

Speaker 3:

Okay and and then I'll be going to do the album release tour.

Speaker 1:

Awesome. Is this? This out of the country? There's some tours out of country this year.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there's some. There's some tours coming up, but most of my out of the country tours will be Going around About the fall time. Okay, I do go to Europe a couple of times next year, I Well, actually I go to Europe in in May for one time, and then, and then again I think around about September.

Speaker 1:

Look at me. I want to thank you for joining me on spit to the beat podcast and. Yo, which is your music, war-winning music and everything, and I wish you well in 2024 with your new album coming out of April to God be the glory, god be the. God, there you go. There you have my guy, cedric Burnside, in the studio with me. Thank you once again, bro. Welcome.

Speaker 1:

We're awesome. Look, if you want to be a guest on my show, give me a call 901 341 6777 spit to the beat podcast or email me at my guests at spit to the beat Dot com. I would love to have you on my show. If your artist, singer, songwriter, musician or entertaining whatever part you are in the industry, give me a call again 901 341 6777 or email me and my guests at spit to the beat Dot com. You can check all my latest episodes again here on Facebook as well as YouTube. Make sure you go to YouTube, subscribe, like and hit that notification. Be, I really, really do appreciate. Thank you again for joining us on spit to the beat podcast and we're out.

Speaker 3:

You really do, man, that was good man.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was.

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