it's time for the main event.
Speaker 2:It's the sparring podcast we are live the sparring boxing podcast live on youtube, live on instagram. I'm getting the hang of this, mother effer. It's much easier when the internet doesn't go out. What up y'all? Lots to talk about the usual. Here we got Puerto Rican Willie. He's working some Puerto Rican stuff. He is not, Although he looks it. He is not gang affiliated.
Speaker 1:Don't look at my story.
Speaker 2:And we are here with the one and only Punchlines Boxing funniest man on the internet boxing related. He was having a ball this weekend, that's for sure.
Speaker 1:Oh man.
Speaker 3:What's up. Did you guys go to the parade? Did you go to?
Speaker 1:the Puerto Rican parade. I go to the festival before the parade. So Saturday is a festival, right, and it's way better. Is everybody out on the street food be selling everything up down? Uh, I think park ave one of them, one of the streets. It is pretty fun. I went with them last year yeah, I had puma out there. He was a token white boy I was into some shit. The only white boy? Yes, he'll be touching the wrong people. You know what I'm saying, dude?
Speaker 3:there's white puerto ricans. I've seen them yeah, they definitely be yeah, they just don't go to the parade. You don't even have to speak Spanish To pretend to be Puerto Rican.
Speaker 1:You know, nah All you.
Speaker 3:All you have to do To say you're Puerto Rican In New York Is just Wear it Somewhere. True Sure, I am Puerto.
Speaker 2:Rican, he's right, he's got a good point.
Speaker 1:You gotta come out. You got to come to the festival one day, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you need a Puerto Rican flag and that fucking frog, that's it.
Speaker 1:You're sick.
Speaker 3:Frog is great, the coqui. Is that what it's called Coquito?
Speaker 1:No, that's the drink, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:That frog is called like the coqui or some shit. I'm definitely Puerto Rican around Christmas time because I will house some my daughter's Puerto Rican.
Speaker 1:I've been in some Puerto Rican, yeah, he's not even real Puerto Rican, he's just affiliated. Talking about in it. Alright, enough about Puerto Ricans. Willie was there, had a great time. I'm tight that they didn't have the fights in New York City that time. Yo, that shit's so fun.
Speaker 2:Last year when I went, we went to the festival and then we went straight into the fights and it got drunk as hell.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it got pretty weird over there, uh. But speaking of fights, there was some fight this weekend, from friday on into saturday. Some fights that didn't happen this weekend, some fights that happened in the wrong area this weekend. A lot to chop up here. Um, let me just give you a rundown real quick of what we're going to talk about before we just keep talking about Puerto Ricans all day. Keyshawn Davis missed weight it was the way and hurt around the world. Nobody saw that coming. Jai Apataya also had a little I mean a showing in his hometown. I mean, we're not going to really talk about that much, but we, we knew what was going to happen.
Speaker 2:The ESPN card did go on a lot of fights. Actually, uh, a friend of punchlines actually fought on pro box. That was Friday. Right, a bantamweight Uh, it was last night. Oh, oh shit, michael Angeletti fought on Pro Box. He was a bantamweight. There was another bantamweight that fought this morning. I think it was this morning. Junto Nakatani, it was this morning. Yeah, okay, yeah, that was this morning. We're going to talk about that and then we're going to have a quick little preview on Richardson Hitchens and all the other boxing drama, as usual. Let's just, I guess get right into it. I guess we got to talk about the kishon stuff first. It's the hot topic right now.
Speaker 1:Kishon came in a little fat, ted, ted, fat, I'd say four pounds which is absurd what's your take on it?
Speaker 2:I know you and me were talking punchlines about it. Um, you had a little conspiracy theory, but then you kind of backtracked it a little bit yeah, because I didn't know about the um.
Speaker 3:I can't remember what it was you told me that made me reconsider it, but four pounds is insane. Yeah, yeah, bro, he barely made weight for the next weight class.
Speaker 2:For real, that's crazy. That's crazy and it was the first blemish we've ever seen, really, with kishan. He was all not true. What was the other?
Speaker 3:one when he had the no contest for smoke oh yeah, but that don't count, come on it does count.
Speaker 2:That wasn't fair. There's just some weed man. But that that no contest actually ties into to what we're going to talk about on that card today too. But you know, keyshawn, boxing-wise I guess you could say the no contest was a blemish. But screw Texas. That's weird. He tested positive for weed and they called it no contest. And weed wouldn't help your performance, it would just make it worse.
Speaker 1:It depends. I ain't gonna lie, sometimes you can perform well on weed.
Speaker 2:I don't know about the boxing.
Speaker 1:You just start, feeling, you just start in the flow you get to the flow state If it's like a really good sativa.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but even then Weed isn't a PED Cocaine for sure, david. Benavidez fought on cocaine, which is terrifying. That's absolutely terrifying. Imagine fighting that guy when he's on coke you let us know because I don't know.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't know how to coke, how you make you feel.
Speaker 2:Me neither, but from what I see it helped Lawrence Taylor a lot in his career as well. Coke is a little different.
Speaker 1:Football on coke is crazy.
Speaker 2:But, this is the first real blemish Made all the news. The fight got canceled, canceled the whole car.
Speaker 1:It was a crazy weekend, though.
Speaker 3:It was a domino effect of just bullshit from him to be honest. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2:And it started in the first face-off when he kind of pushed him and was acting like he touched the belt. What's his face? Oh yeah, De Los.
Speaker 3:Santos touched the belt. Yeah, he touched the belt that bro dropped a day later.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's a good point. And then he smacked his hand and, like I said, I told Willie this and I think I told you this too. When we were talking he got that belt and there was a shift in him. I noticed a shift in Keyshawn, you know what I mean. He wasn't this Olympian Ring Magazine ambassador, he wasn't this.
Speaker 1:He got that too. He just got that recently.
Speaker 2:But he didn't act like that to get that. In my opinion, when he got this belt and there was a shift in him and he kind of became like a rock star and acted like a rock star, and then it really all came crumbling down on the way in. How about?
Speaker 3:all week, not to cut you off. All week he was going back and forth with Albright who was fighting his brother Kelvin which is the same guy. He fought when he smoked weed and it got ruled a no contest.
Speaker 1:That's who Keyshawn fought. That's the same guy. Yeah, yeah, that's the same guy. That's crazy how that comes back to.
Speaker 3:That's why all week he was talking shit to him. That's crazy. Which is weird.
Speaker 1:You're not fighting him. Yeah, that's crazy how it came all the way back to this. Yeah, that's how. That's crazy how it came all the way back to this. Yeah, and now you. Now he looked dumb.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh man, and then and then, and then. The one that really shocked me was when he started going at Abdullah. Yeah, that was, that was another thing, that was cool, but yo, I almost that was good though.
Speaker 2:I Like I kind of like that one.
Speaker 3:I was like all right, I kind of get it, abdullah's approaching Abdullah's on his way, I get it. But I thought they were cool. For some reason I thought they were like tight. Yeah, me too, because I know Abdullah and Shakur are really tight and obviously Keyshawn and Shakur are.
Speaker 2:For some reason, I thought Abdullah and Keyshawn were. I mean, I think Abdullah's well-spoken, but does his thing in the ring. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Well, doola said he felt the energy was off, Like he usually feels that you know, Keyshawn is really cool with him, Like he's like yo, they casual talk, they don't talk crazy, Like they're not enemies, Like they just sit there, they talk cool, and then he's just like the energy was off. He he kind of expected something to go down once they sit. They were sitting right next to each other. That was the crazy part he felt that energy.
Speaker 3:Looking at it now, though, going back and forth with Abdullah, going back and forth with his brothers upon it, shoving De Los Santos, and then missing weight by that much. It's like when you were talking crazy like that, all week, focusing on other people, how were you so much overweight? How were you not even close to making weight?
Speaker 1:That's messed up. I don't know. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I really have no answers. The only thing I could think of is, like I was about to say, that rock star mentality that he has. He's bigger than the sport, he's better than the sport he's. He's better than the sport he just takes the entertainment like thing, but he's not, though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, at all. It's not like he doesn't have a single pay-per-view fight, let alone a pay-per-view main event or the sales to back up acting like that.
Speaker 2:And then this, this kind of opened up another can of worms and before we even get to what else he did we didn't even get there yet to the the big shebang that he did, besides the fight being canceled. Uh, if you actually I forget who brought it up, but when you actually like look at his opponents and like look at who he beat and stuff, he's only he has what 14, and oh, he's not really, he's not really fighting killers out there, you know what I'm saying? Like he's not fighting, he's not fighting. Uh, I, I guess when he got the belt, uh, the eastern european that was, but then you saw the size difference.
Speaker 1:You were like the worst opponent out of all. Yeah, and and so so I don't know what it was, I think I think he's a little insecure.
Speaker 2:I think he's got a lot of insecurities and that could kind of be why the the abdullah mason thing, like, oh, this guy's doing everything I was supposed to do, you know what I mean. Like emiliano vargas called him out for that.
Speaker 3:Oh really, I didn't even see that. Yeah, because of that. He posted the clip of keshan and abdullah going back and forth and emiliano vargas was like he hates when any young fighter gets attention.
Speaker 2:Laugh emoji yeah and yeah, and I could see that that kind of makes sense because it showed, and then I mean so we don't really got to touch on his brother too much. But is it the middle brother, the tall one?
Speaker 1:No, he's the oldest, the oldest one that lost.
Speaker 2:The youngest one got the knockout, did his thing. Yeah, he did his thing. Two-thirds of the.
Speaker 1:Virginia pie. I'm going to fucking stall, though, both of them.
Speaker 2:But yo, yo actually let's just stay on. Let's stay on where the fight was canceled because of the weight, so a lot of people were coming at De Los Santos. I saw on take the fight anyway. Nah, he's smart. Yo, I don't disagree with him, like F, that You're a crazy underdog. Anyway, the blood clot stuff you talked about last time turned out to be true. He said it in the fighter meeting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's why I meant this. I wanted to definitely give you a credit for that one. Yeah, he talked about that. They end up talking about it.
Speaker 2:That's crazy yo. He looked drained, he made weight, he did the hard part fuck that, yeah, and he hasn't fought in a year and a half.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I would. I would do that too. What do you want him to do? Fight, lose, so people like me can make fun of him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly like and it just kept, it just kept trickling down. I also I I showed you there was like a club, they were going to the club after for for kishan uh, he had like an after party set.
Speaker 1:No, no, oh, you're not, he had the whole event. He said yo, we got a football thing, so I also saw Allen Iverson and Shaquille O'Neal were supposed to come. I don't know if Allen Iverson yeah, yeah, he was at the party, but Shaquille O'Neal, it was Al Iverson's birthday too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was like his birthday, but he was supposed to. I don't know if he was at the fight. I didn't see anything, but he was supposed to go to the fight. Shaquille O'Neal was supposed to go to the fight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was the 50th birthday. They went to the party afterwards and then the thing that the butt was there. Who?
Speaker 2:The butt was at the party. Yeah me laughing like damn. The mayor of norfolk right made this date national quichon johnson day like, or whatever.
Speaker 3:like it was like quichon it was quichon johnson day, and then the quichon davis oh shit, my bad football play.
Speaker 2:No, I like quichon johnson, though he's good national quichon davis day. Yeah, my bad.
Speaker 3:But he made it jets legend, yeah, legend, yo, you know what you know.
Speaker 2:What's funny? He actually hit on my wife once. Funny, that's a different story yo what he's clearly still in my head, but anyway, that's a different story. Keishon davis, not johnson that pervert. Keishon davis, the mayor, made it National Keyshawn Davis Day, and then he misses the fight and misses weight Like bro Like imagine that the whole city, literally the whole city, and then 2,000 people. It didn't sell out in the first place. It was close but it didn't sell out in the first place. 2,000 people got refunds on their tickets.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I went on my refund tour 2,000 out of like a 5,000 to 6,000 arena. I like Mason when he said yo, I got the main event, my first main event.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, Mason post-fight I posted it. He said he was.
Speaker 1:Nonchalantly like yeah, my new main event, my first main event ever I did my thing.
Speaker 2:He thanked Norfolk for showing up for him.
Speaker 3:Hell yeah, it's like NBA Youngboy when he was holding up that rapper's chain that he stole in his city. Did you see what De La Santos posted yesterday? Nah, he posted the flyer for Keyshawn's thing. He said hey, enjoy your party.
Speaker 1:Yo damn, they killed him, bro. You said that they killed him man. You said that they killed him man.
Speaker 3:His fans, bro. His fans are annoying Keyshawn's. That is because they're like, well, Keyshawn fought Lemos. When Lemos missed weight by six pounds, it's like, yeah, but Lemos wasn't a champion. Lemos wasn't fighting in his hometown in a car that was centered around him and his brothers.
Speaker 2:And Keyshawn was still the favorite, like when you're the favorite, you could do that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:He really messed it up for the black culture right now because he had everything handed to him. He had the key to the city, he got everything Like he had all events and he couldn't make weight.
Speaker 3:I'm going to be honest with you, dude To kind of cover the other fights not to get too off topic, but for top rank this card couldn't have gone much worse.
Speaker 2:Nah, major L, major, major L With.
Speaker 3:Keyshawn pulling out of the main event after missing weight, and then everything that happened after just with him. But then Elvin losing and then Troy and Tiger both looked not great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it was bad bro, bad for the, and it was a boring card. It was a boring card.
Speaker 1:It was boring.
Speaker 2:But I guess we'll just get into what happened after and then just move on with with the that card and we'll talk about that card. So then and everybody that's listening already knows, or whatever then, after everything we just talked about with kishan and everything that went wrong with missing weight, boom, uh, his brother beats. Uh, what's his name? No, his brother gets beat. Oh my bad, I'm all fucked. His brother gets beat oh my bad, I'm all fucked up.
Speaker 1:His brother gets beat. Oh, you're talking about the youngest one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. His brother gets beat bad, the youngest one beat somebody.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was his fourth fight. That guy wasn't.
Speaker 2:It wasn't even on live TV, it was the undercard. But yeah, so his brother gets beat by the guy the no contest gets his ass kicked. Really he won maybe two rounds, I'd say. Yeah, I had him losing 99-91. Yeah, like you could give him maybe two I don't know you could argue two. I guess Got his ass kicked, had no defense, was just getting lit up with fucking right hands.
Speaker 3:He looked like he was smoking weed bro in that fight.
Speaker 2:Exactly yeah, but okay, whatever he got beat. And you know what I said before that fight even started.
Speaker 1:No jab bro.
Speaker 2:I almost bet against him because I was like you know, this guy went the distance with Keyshawn Like I don't think his brother's ready. I really don't think his brother's ready for this challenge yet. It's a step-up fight. They was talking crazy yeah, and I'm not taking anything away from his brother but then I talked myself out of it. I looked at the height and I'm like you know what? It's hometown card. He's probably going to show out and do his thing. So whatever he gets beat, there was one scorecard that there was some hometown cooking, as usual in boxing the worst fucking sport in the world, bro.
Speaker 3:One card had it a draw One judge had it a draw and even the ones that gave it for Albright still had it, like 96, 94, 97, 93.
Speaker 2:There's no way, no way, no way. He got shut out bro.
Speaker 1:I don't think he got shut out though. Nah, I gave him one round he was just like he was jabbing moving around. It was just he was getting caught with the right hand Dude he got shot. And it left him right, but it was like it was a boring fight, though at the same time, because he was getting caught, but like it was like you know, he was staying away. It was a lot of holding, oh my God. It was like a.
Speaker 3:Holding, and then he started doing the same thing.
Speaker 1:I'm watching this shit holding each other so long she don't know nothing. Why are they holding?
Speaker 2:him and when do you see guys at that weight hold like that when they get hurt? Yeah, but not like the whole fight like that.
Speaker 1:They did get hurt. That shit was crazy. He hurt him with a right.
Speaker 3:And I messaged you in the first round. I was like bro Albright is hitting him on the chin already.
Speaker 1:It's not like he's glancing him and it just hit him in the face. He was hitting him like on the fucking chin. Yeah, because he's. He's tall, so he's used to pulling back like so nobody can reach him, but he's getting hit with the overhand easily, easy.
Speaker 3:His head is not moving. His head has no legs either. He has no balance in his legs.
Speaker 2:He's super flat-footed he reminded me a lot. He looked a lot like deontay wilder. Like there's times when I look and I'm like damn, is that Deontay Wilder in there? Just Deontay Wilder has crazy power, this guy clearly.
Speaker 1:I feel so bad for them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he didn't really do anything wrong, he's just fighting. And then the icing on the cake, keyshawn's in the news again for all the wrong reasons. And props to ESPN, because they reported it right away. And Top Rank I mean props to Top Rank because that's not really like them. Anytime there's something real negative going on, they try to just.
Speaker 1:They might have thought they was like, since this whole shit, they was like he's done how they dish a call. They just going to do him Like yo I'm out of here I did.
Speaker 2:Shakur, he's gonna do him Like yo I'm out of here, I'm out of here, we out, we done with Keyshawn. So before we get there, let's tell what happened for the radio listeners that may have not seen it, or heard it I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2:What's Keyshawn's little brother's name, Keon. So Keon and Keyshawn allegedly jumped. What's his name? Al Keon. So Keon and Keyshawn allegedly jumped. What's his name? Albright? Albright Allegedly he's walking backstage and allegedly jumped Albright and punched him in the head and he did have a huge welt that he didn't have when the fight ended.
Speaker 2:Now I don't know, A video then got released of what actually happened. It looked like some kind of scuffle. You couldn't really see if punches were thrown. But the bigger thing here for me is why are you pressing a guy that just won for no reason? He's walking to the locker room like that's just.
Speaker 3:That's an l anyway, whether they jumped them or not they were saying it was because tensions were running high and he was talking shit. And it's like, bro, you guys were talking shit to him all week and they were, and kishan, and they didn the weigh-ins too, and they didn't fight him. Like, like, they didn't fight him, no, and it's not like he fought dirty, no, not at all. They were trying to say that little spin move he did at the end where he like spun out of the clinch and then threw that hook. They're like, oh, it was cheap shot, like it didn't even hit him first of all no, and it wasn't it's like that's the other thing.
Speaker 1:I've never seen that before did you?
Speaker 3:did you guys see kishan's story the day of wayans? Uh, he was stage side for all the wayans before his way. He wasn't even backstage trying to cut weight. He was at. He was attending the wayans like a fan and then, when his brother and albright were weighing in, he's talking shit to Albright. So Albright starts saying something to him. He's like don't worry about me. Like, worry about your opponent. Like, bro, you worry about your shit. Like you're the ones that have been pressing him all week.
Speaker 2:It was just a shame. It was stupid to see.
Speaker 1:That's bad for bro, did you?
Speaker 2:see the popcorn thing, yeah, and then he's like in the crowd eating popcorn.
Speaker 3:Like he doesn't even care.
Speaker 2:So that's what I was going to say. You get that money, man. Usually when someone misses weight, though especially a fight like that in his hometown like the only reason they're in Norfolk, virginia throwing a fight is for Keyshawn Davis.
Speaker 1:But he had to be there Like he had to show up for his brothers.
Speaker 2:He had to be there, so he misses weight, His fight gets canceled. He doesn't apologize. He didn't apologize. He's just like yeah, I was moving up anyway. Blah, blah, blah, blah. He's all wrong. We saw a different side of him.
Speaker 1:I knew he was going to 140 already. I been called it, I was like, yeah, he's going to 140. But yo, tim Bradley made a good point. And he said he was like he's not a fan, no more.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah with the jumping. When he got they jumped him or whatever. But he said he was like and I kind of agree with him he's like you, only you move up in weight when you're having trouble making weight or when you miss weight by like a half a pound or one pound. It's like in his last three fights Keyshawn made weight no problem and he said he's like he looked the best he's ever looked in those fights. So it kind of made sense what's really going on over there? I think, yeah, he should move up. He's big.
Speaker 1:I was on that snack program and something.
Speaker 2:I think he could have made weight. I really do think he could have made weight. When you get that money and that fame and you're home in Virginia. He's literally an all-star A-lister in Norfolk.
Speaker 1:He probably ate something that he wasn't supposed to eat.
Speaker 3:Bro, four pounds. The only time you see somebody miss by that much is if they were a short-notice replacement or something.
Speaker 2:Not the A-side champion, mind you. A-side champion, talking all that With a full camp, a-side champion with a full and like talking all that shit up, talking a lot. Saying it's the best camp he's ever had.
Speaker 1:He's fucking up the bag man.
Speaker 2:He's making us look crazy out here Again, though the bigger thing here for me is and I say the same shit about Tiafimo when he fucks up every other day it was also a breath of fresh air that some heat was off him Finally.
Speaker 1:That's how boxing works. That's how boxing works, bro. We quick to forget.
Speaker 2:But when, when you don't apologize, there's a bigger issue deep inside, like when you don't know that what you did was wrong, like forget about the, the jumping that guy, which is very wrong, or whatever happened. We don't know the full story. Yeah, they pressed him whatever. Whatever happened happened. That was stupid. But missing weight at your hometown show out. The only reason Top Rank put that card there was because of you. You know what I mean. That's the only reason. He was the one that sold that out. What'd?
Speaker 1:you say What'd you say at the fight?
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:You said at the fight nobody go to Virginia to watch fights. There was fans behind us getting at me.
Speaker 2:Nobody go to Norfolk to watch fights. But I was giving him a compliment. I was like yo, thanks for showing up out here in New York. You really back your Virginia guy. And then we kind of got into a verbal spar and I was like, dude, nobody outside of Virginia is going to Virginia to watch fights. I'm sorry we're not backing our shit. Like, hey, let's going to Virginia to watch fights, I'm sorry we're not packing our shit like, hey, let's go to Virginia, unless you put a superstar on it, which why?
Speaker 1:would you. Exactly. I know people, probably from New York, turned out to this fight.
Speaker 2:From New York.
Speaker 1:Oh, like his family, keyshawn's family.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, of course. Well, not now, not when the guy canceled. He's like fuck it, but. But when you don't Apologize again and I'll stop saying it. But like it's like, dude, you're not. You have one belt. The point is to unify and then it's to get Undisputed. Like you have one belt, dude, and great on you. I love when a champion Becomes a new champion, especially young, gets a belt and an American. I'm all about it, but you really let us down, he let me down.
Speaker 1:He let everybody down. We all fans, though.
Speaker 2:And then it just trickled. It kept trickling and trickling and trickling.
Speaker 1:It was like, yeah, it was crazy. It was one thing after another and I hope Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3:I was gonna say shit like this is because he's not a superstar yet I'm sorry he's not. No, so things like this can hurt you in the long run, before you're a superstar and there's no financial incentive for somebody to fight you. Like the only thing I can think that can save him is turkey and his ring ambassadorship thing. Yeah, but like, look at somebody like Boo Boo who was a champion and would pull out of fights because of a purse or something like that. Unprofessional shit like that makes you avoidable.
Speaker 2:Also too, speaking of Boo Boo, I'll tell them what you're doing.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's not why I did that. But yeah, I know, I know On my own YouTube channel I don't post there, but I not why I did that. But yeah, I'm on my own YouTube channel, I don't post there, but I wanted to start making content. I'm going to start doing like short little documentaries on fighters, like 20 to 30 minutes, and the first one I'm doing is woulda, coulda, shoulda, didn't, the Demetrius Andrade story.
Speaker 2:I'm going to record that tomorrow the funniest man in all of instagram boxing world is gonna put together a little documentary.
Speaker 3:No, I just wanted you to plug, yeah, but it's also like I'm not gonna be like super, I'm not gonna try to make the thing hilarious either, like I'll try to be funny every now and then, but I just want to like tell these guys the stories and stuff because I have fun talking about it yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:But yeah, you're right, I don't know what's the only redemption he could really have right now to get back in. The fans' good graces is go to 140. Fight TO Fight.
Speaker 1:ASAP. I think that's that Fight ASAP.
Speaker 2:And it has to be a name and he has to beat the shit out of a name like TO.
Speaker 1:I think the TO's fight will bounce him right back up to stardom.
Speaker 2:True, it will, and he needs to beat the shit out of him, though he can't have a.
Speaker 1:I think he just needs to fight him. Yeah, yeah, because these fights is not happening With TO it's not happening. None of these fights with this guy is happening right now. Need to fight with this guy.
Speaker 2:It's happening right now. We're going to actually talk about that too. That was part of the drama segment. That's what's sad. I try to put together segments to keep it organized. We'll talk about the drama, but boxing is such a shit show.
Speaker 1:It's a lot of shit, though. We just ramble with it, we ramble with it and just keep on going to it.
Speaker 2:Every segment is fucking drama with these boxes.
Speaker 3:Especially with so many elements involved too, because it wasn't just Keyshawn, it was his brother, it was everything.
Speaker 1:So then his brother that's not a good look for the younger brother being involved with that. It was-.
Speaker 3:Bro. So look, I'm not going to say who told me this, but it's the same person who told me about De La Santos' blood clots.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, so this is good information.
Speaker 3:Yeah, those brothers aren't going to be on top rank much longer, damn. Yeah, bob didn't want to sign them to begin with. He signed them for Keyshawn. They had already had Kelvin before and he had a bad performance, so they got rid of him and that's why he was on Pro Box.
Speaker 2:So he signed both of them again for kishan, and then to do that like the dude's been looking for a reason to tear up their contract and and that that that, now that you say that, makes like back to what I said. Why would you have this fight in virginia without kishan bro?
Speaker 3:they're probably not going to do a fight there again, because another thing he told me is that that arena is banning him, keyshawn.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow, oh, and that's so, dude, he's got to be careful too, and I'm not going to get too legal about it. But in that video right yeah, when the melee happens and I didn't see any punches thrown, they were exaggerating a little bit they said somebody threw punches. The dude did have a welt on his head. I don't know exactly what happened. There was some kind of melee. You see Keyshawn trying to bump security and get back in the crowd, not to fight but to get his baby out of there. His baby was in a carriage right there. It's like what are you doing, dude?
Speaker 3:Yeah, His fans are saying like he wasn't back there to jump. All right, he was back there to get his kid and it's like why was his kid there? His kid's in a stroller. It's not like his kid just walked back. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It was like. It was just very, very odd. It looked like it reminded me of WWE or WWFf, whatever you call it like when they go backstage and but oh my god, yeah, the last thing I'm going to say on it and I I hope, I hope the route they're trying to go with this isn't true, because I hate when people do this but his brother, one of his brothers, posted today an apology. It wasn't kishon, but one of his brothers posted apology. I'll try to read it quick. It was the one that fought him. It was kelvin kelvin. Okay, oh, so the taller one, right, kelvin. Yeah, the one that fought him. It was Kelvin Kelvin. Okay, oh, so the taller one, right, kelvin. Yeah, the one that lost. Yeah, I kind of like him. He didn't do nothing really, he was just like fighting. So he posted. But this is where it gets weird and I hope it's not the route they're trying to go, and I'll explain what I mean after I read it.
Speaker 2:On behalf of DB3, we, db3, we apologize for conducting ourselves in that way. Tension was high and emotions got the best of us. We will be back and better and more professional. It's ups and downs with this. We're going to take what comes with it. With that being said, we didn't jump nobody uh, but keep believing the media. That's twisting narratives. Part of the game will regroup, uh. Part of the game will. We will regroup, but it will be for us and not quote unquote, our people. People three shout out to the MF juice man. So, like that last statement, I hope it's he's not going this route, cause I hate that quote unquote. It will be for us and not our people. I think he's like getting mad, that like black fans are mad at them too.
Speaker 2:I think maybe I'm I'm I'm taking that the wrong way, but I just took it as like their supporters in general who had shit to say okay, that's how I took it okay, I, I hope, I hope you're right, because, because, if it is, I'm like come on, dude, like stop you, every everybody's mad at y'all, I mean they're most likely black anyway.
Speaker 3:I just don't think that's what.
Speaker 2:Yeah, true, the direction was so I hope that's right, because I was like, come on, dude Keyshawn needs to apologize, he don't need to apologize.
Speaker 3:Keyshawn needs to come out and fucking apologize, but all of them do. Yeah, true, and then Albright said that the only people that did come to apologize- to him was Bomack and Bud.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Terrence Crawford and Bomack came in. That's what I was going to say with Crawford, but even that's like hey, superstar, please go.
Speaker 1:When he said he said he said sorry for convenience. Imagine him just say that.
Speaker 2:And then it was like I read too similar.
Speaker 3:He's like yeah, I got a picture with him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, he was excited to meet him yo. That is insane. He's like yo, you never met bud and I'm like damn yeah, how could you not be excited to meet bud though? Yeah, true, yeah, bud is fucking cool bro willie had a fucking dance off with him yeah, for real.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I posted the shit somewhere on yeah, but um, yeah, that's really it. That was the big drama of the week, stole most of the boxing world and again it was a breath of fresh air for me as a TO fan.
Speaker 1:It was sad for Keyshawn. They from out here, from New.
Speaker 2:York. They're originally from Long Island, keyshawn, especially.
Speaker 3:We're going to quit talking about this Once the next bullshit happens and in boxing it happens all the time.
Speaker 1:See you next Sunday. I'll see you next week. Next Saturday is going to be some bullshit going on with that fight.
Speaker 3:Richardson Hitchens is going to shoot somebody. Watch.
Speaker 2:I hope it's not me, because we'll be there. Cambosos mate. Those are fucking weird Australians.
Speaker 3:He's going to throw a boomerang at some dude. Crikey, there's a big outlook. Oh, crikey, that's not a knife.
Speaker 2:This is a knife, but uh, yeah, that fight's coming up. Um, I guess we'll. We'll speak on the next section of drama before we actually get into the the fights and the undercard. Who ducked? Who is what? I'm titling this segment? Uh, did boots duck teo? Then teo duck haney. What's going on there? I'll let one of you go first and then I'll give my little take on what I think's going on with all that I think that's what you said.
Speaker 1:Whatever you said, I think that's what happened, because at this point. I don't know what's going. Teo is not getting none of these fights. None of these these fights is happening. I understand the Haney one, though that's the only one I understand, Because he said he's taking it from. I like you know TO been taking a lot from Tank, a lot. He's been taking a lot of quotes from him. What did? He say he was like, oh, I got to go over there and get a knockout.
Speaker 1:He was like yo, that's his boy. He's like yo Devin, that's his man. He's like yo. I need to go over there and get a knockout or I'm going to lose.
Speaker 2:So did Boots duck TO Kind of? I guess you could say yeah, no. No, I'm saying let me finish so like technically, like yeah, but who really whatever you know, really whatever he's moving up but did TO duck Haney Kind of yeah, but there was a valid reason for it.
Speaker 1:That reason was valid. I could see that I'm like yo. Turk is making Devin his boy. He was like yo. After the fight. Who was they showing Devin? Put on a stinker and he still was showing him. That's his man.
Speaker 3:Because he's Muslim.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly. So that's another thing. To was on the I guess it's I don't know how to say it Punch Drunk Podcast P-U-N-S-H.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So he was on there recently and he's explaining what happened. He's like then it just gets canceled, it just they don't tell me anything and it just dies down, it goes away and it's not happening for whatever reason. I guess boots, they said, turned it down, but whatever, I don't like disagree with him for that. Like he's. He's at a whole different weight class chasing belts, so I get it. So boots turned it down, whatever. And then he goes. Then all of a sudden which I get, he's like now they want me to fight haney and he's like bet I'll fight haney. He's like for less amount of money, way less than I was promised, and in saudi, after he just posted dictator capital d-i-c-k to one of the most important men in saudi who has direct relations with them in a Muslim-controlled country, versus a real Muslim, not a Tank Davis Muslim, a real Muslim.
Speaker 3:Like an actual like.
Speaker 2:Haney's an actual.
Speaker 3:Muslim Shout out to Abdul Wahid.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying, so I get that. Okay, yeah, no, and that fight shouldn't have been there anyway. I'm sick of the fucking Saudi fights. I don't want and we're going to talk about the fight announcements later. A lot of them are in Saudi, which annoys the shit out of me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, don't put big American fighters in Saudi. No, don't.
Speaker 2:I don't even think like I don't know, I don't want to speak for them.
Speaker 3:But the people that live in Saudi. I don't know about them. Yeah, I don't know. I'm over it and that's what I was afraid of happening, but I don't know everything is boring.
Speaker 1:They make the fights boring. They don't even live it up when they come out. When they come out, the music be boring. Everything be boring.
Speaker 3:I just thought it was weird that after TO called him a dictator and posted all those things where's the liquor at, Where's the liquor at when he's doing the videos and stuff Then they announced the fight and I was like I knew it. They're just hyping it up. I still feel like this is all just hype and promotion, Because he does that WWE shit, Turkey. This is just a storyline.
Speaker 2:I still feel like that's the thing I, I agree with you too, but the only thing I I know from knowing like, like, once you start fucking like around with with their religious stuff and like with their religion, they don't take that shit lightly. So like yeah I don't know.
Speaker 1:Who knows what the fuck would happen.
Speaker 2:And someone I'm not gonna like he't know, he didn't say it necessarily, right, he just like he alluded to it and then Turk responded in his, like His language, on Twitter or X, whatever the fuck it's called. He responded like I don't know how to say it. It's definitely not cursive Arabic. He responded in Arabic, which I've never seen him do. It wasn not cursive arabic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, arabic, he responded in arabic which I've never seen him do so that was like I'm like whoa, that's kind of weird, like I had to copy and paste and translate it like why did he do?
Speaker 1:that I thought you could just hit the translate, but not on x yeah not on twitter, it's annoying as
Speaker 2:fuck so like that was weird to me too. Like damn, this is a little deeper, because that's like him talking to just his people. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Like yeah, hey, kill this guy no wait, what did?
Speaker 1:what did he say? Did you like it was just saying, like it was like?
Speaker 2:a quote. It was like a quote basically saying like oh, be careful. Like like some stupid quote that like it didn't allude to anything like that, but it was just weird to me like why are you, if you're in, for boxing for everyone?
Speaker 3:and you made this fight for everyone it's the saudi version of like a fake motivational quote on a picture of keanu reeves or a lion or something keanu reeves.
Speaker 2:I'm crying, so I did, I did translate it and then I I read it backwards and it said must be head to you.
Speaker 1:No, I'm totally kidding.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it didn't say that as soon as he gets over here. Throw that motherfucker off the roof but?
Speaker 2:but speaking of that, right, I I won't say who, but one of our like listeners who's a boxing trainer in the states, like a real one. He dm'd me and he's like I got a story for you about, about over there, and I'm like all right, I'm like, well, he's like, oh, I can't say it, and I'm like I got a story for you about over there, and I'm like all right, and I'm like, well, he's like, oh, I can't say it. And I'm like, well, why would you text me that? So now you have to say it, dude. So then he said it. I'm like just say it, don't give me this weird intro. But he said it and he basically said, without came to our room and like I don't owe this guy nothing, I don't think he's lying. Like I don't even know this guy, like he's just, he's like people came to our room in Saudi and we're like very aggressive and I'll leave it at that. Like damn.
Speaker 2:And I'm like damn, is that really what goes goes down over? That's another thing too.
Speaker 1:We've talked about it every show now. You can't drink at the fights the fans is not going to enjoy that. No, and for us as fans, we want to make the fight like. All right, we're watching good boxing, we might have a great boxing fight on, but if the crowd aren't into it, how are we going to get into it at home?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're not even allowed to be into it until fucking Hamza Shiraz is down yeah.
Speaker 1:I can't wait till he go down.
Speaker 2:It's fucking, it's just, it's just bad.
Speaker 1:Who? Berlinga? Oh, that's Berlinga's fight. Oh yeah, we're probably going to that too.
Speaker 2:I hope he smokes him. Yeah, me too. I've always rooted for Berlinga because he's from New York. But I get why people dislike him greatly and I totally understand it. I hope he smokes. But now in this fight I'm like Team Berlanga, I'm definitely.
Speaker 3:Team Berlanga Same, actually I make fun of him constantly, but I'm going for him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because that cheating shit telling him about the scorecard and shit it has nothing to do with he didn't learn his fucking lesson, bro.
Speaker 2:Yep, it has nothing to do with him being Muslim or whatever. It has to do with the cheating shit like the scorecard.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't like that. That's why I was mad about Kelvin Davis getting that fucking draw card. I don't like that shit.
Speaker 2:It was fucking crazy. But yeah, that's where TO's at right now. You know your daily TO update. It's kind of sad. I get a lot of people DMing me like, oh, you're my info, what's going on? God damn it. I just want to talk about all boxing. I wasn't like the teo messenger, but I guess I am. That's my title, you know whisperer, I'm the whisperer, whistleblower, yeah, and who knows? Teo also said, though, in that podcast that he, um he's like I'm doing something business-wise right now. There's a big fight coming, so hopefully, whatever his plan is, or whatever I mean, he's he's killing all his stones.
Speaker 1:That's mean he's killing all his stones.
Speaker 2:That's another thing.
Speaker 1:He's killing all his ways too.
Speaker 2:Another thing about Keyshawn, though. He changed his tune recently on the Andre Ward podcast. He said what was it?
Speaker 1:Keyshawn can take credit too. I ain't gonna lie. Keep on going. Everybody's giving my boy credit now. I don't know why.
Speaker 2:Two months ago or something. He kishon goes uh, I'm never fighting to blah, blah, blah. He's a racist, this that I'm not giving him money now. On andre ward's podcast he's like fight him yeah he's like, yeah, I'll fight him, I want to fight him to, wants to fight me apparently, blah, blah, blah and I'm like, yeah, what the fuck is going like you're just everywhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, on a podcast, though, he he uh said the same. I see you saying the same shit. Tank was saying like yo, he gets all the money like he was. Like he was like he respect, because tank began money for a man long, but now he's starting to get this bag right. Yeah, he feel like he don't got no fight. I'm like he's like about to quit soon.
Speaker 2:Like too so he basically alluded to what I said.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's alluded to what I said he keep going like silk sheet, these people starting to get that money and then they just lose the fight in them.
Speaker 3:If they announce TO versus Keyshawn in September, then I think my theory was right about Keyshawn. I'm being serious.
Speaker 2:In September. Yes, you could be on to something, though, because I don't know if Keyshawn would do it, but that Haney and TO were supposed to fight at a catch weight of 145 for some reason. So, that being said, why I have no idea, but whatever I think because TO didn't want to get weight bullied, so, but whatever, yeah, he began.
Speaker 3:But that makes no sense TO is small.
Speaker 2:In my opinion, boots is better than Haney, so why are you chasing Boots? But whatever.
Speaker 3:See, and I think they knew Boots was moving up, because Boots wanted to be undisputed and he can't get the Norman fight. Norman won't fight him, barrios won't fight him and he just wants to fight for belts Because it kills him to make that weight. So he just wants to fight for belts because it kills him to make that weight. So he was going to move up if he couldn't get a unification fight. So then they offer him TO and he wanted $5 million. He's like all right, if I'm going to fight this pointless-ass fight, I want $5 million Because it's a lose-lose situation for Boots. We already said that If he beats him he's not going to get any credit.
Speaker 2:No, but that boots. We already said that if he beats him he's not gonna get any credit. No, but that is a big pay day, he will get a big payday, that's a great payday.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that key was talking about the belts too.
Speaker 2:Like remember he said shit about the belts and they're like you know I'm holding this belt, but I gotta pay for this belt. Pay for this yeah, but he had the belt for five minutes. Yeah, he's technically.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was to say he's technically never paid a sanctioned body fee.
Speaker 1:That shit pinned in an account.
Speaker 2:You know, when you get a new car it didn't come in the mail yet. You're like, oh, I'm good.
Speaker 1:He probably planned to lose his belt. He's like I don't feel like paying this shit right now. He's doing his black shit.
Speaker 2:That's how.
Speaker 1:I don't like to pay my payments on time either.
Speaker 2:But I'm interested to see what happens going forward with if you're right which could possibly be I just I don't know. I want TO to stay at 140, honestly, and I want him to get undisputed again. That's because there's a route for it.
Speaker 3:He needs to stay at 140. He has no business at 140.
Speaker 1:He don't have no power Like Hitchens say Cambosis, somehow Cambosis beats Hitchens, right.
Speaker 2:Okay, say I know, I know we're going to preview, but just say it happens right. Say it happens. Flash a knockdown. Who knows, tio versus Cambosis at 140 for the bell, that's a huge fight.
Speaker 3:It's a big fight in America or Australia.
Speaker 1:Exactly, he could definitely win that, fight who? Well, against Hitchens who.
Speaker 2:Cambosis, I don't know, we'll get there, he get lucky bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we'll get there he's laying something crazy. We'll get there. Hitchens could have an off night.
Speaker 2:That's the only way really, in my opinion, but we'll get there when we get there I'm saying, he could land something. But then even that say, hitchens does beat the shit out of Kambosis, right, hitchens vs TO is also in New York anyway, I think that fight is going to be boring. I don't think that's a big fight, bro, In New York. I think it's massive.
Speaker 3:I don't even think that shit sells out to MSG They'd have to do it at the Hulu.
Speaker 2:I just want that fuck. I'm being a little biased.
Speaker 1:Lil Wayne sold out. Msg Woo, that was fire. I went there this weekend Bro.
Speaker 3:his new album was dog shit Trash.
Speaker 1:That shit was booty Terrible.
Speaker 2:Willie Willie.
Speaker 1:That shit was booty cheeks man.
Speaker 2:So we're not getting around.
Speaker 3:We're not saying random shit.
Speaker 1:Willie was at the little wayne concert this week. My bad, it's all good. No, I heard little wayne and I'm like don't get me started on that, motherfucker. He just quichon davis his new album bullshit. Yeah, that's a good soundbite trash.
Speaker 2:That's terrible. Oh, what else boxing related did we have? So we got that drama. We got the t Duck this Duck that, tishon stealing the show for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker 3:Lomachenko retired. Thank you for everything, lomachenko retired yes, lomachenko retired. Rest in peace.
Speaker 2:Mike McCallum, you could blame actually Lomachenko for my love for Tiafimo in the ring. So you could blame Lomachenko for that, because that was the fight. To me loma was like god, like I wasn't like a huge fanboy of him, but watching him he was like god to me. I was like this guy is unstoppable, like who's gonna beat this guy? And then the teo fight. Even though it was close, I'll admit that I did not think teo had a shot at that dude, he threw 58 punches in the first six rounds of that fight through.
Speaker 3:Didn't not land through, yeah, but that's you, that's his fault. 100, that's his fault.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying that was a weird fight but then if you look at the back half of the fight, like, and I know they're gonna claim, they claim the injury with loma and stuff that he, his shoulder, was hurt, but so what happened? What happened the back half of the fight, he magically, he magically healed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, make, it make sense.
Speaker 2:Make it make sense. So, whatever, though we don't got to go over that again. Yeah, loma was, if you look at and I posted something about it Like everything Loma's done. Dude's a first ballot Hall of Famer. No doubt Shoo-in minute he can get in. He's in there. Shout out to my god yeah, loma's, I like loma a lot, I just what pissed me off is he didn't retire earlier. He held on to that belt, so like we all, we all knew it was coming like, come on, dude, just give it up.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that was. That would have been a tough way to get out of there. Like, imagine you had to fight chakor tank. Yeah, maybe Keyshawn at that time.
Speaker 2:I think, though, what really took Loma was the Haney. Haney kind of ruined Loma, and not because of his performance, just the robbery. I think that kind of just deflated him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can honestly argue that he won all three fights he lost. Yeah, you could argue that you wouldn't be right, but you'd have a good argument if you know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:You could make a case for it, but the Haney fight. You could argue that you could go to court with that one. They should have went to court with that one. That's a fact. That was crazy. That was fucking crazy.
Speaker 1:I was fucking shocked, it was a great fight, but I thought Loma is my number two man.
Speaker 2:Haney impressed me. I thought it was going to be way worse for him, but I thought Loma did more than enough to win that fight.
Speaker 3:When I heard the 116-112, I was like, oh, it has to be Loma he's the only one I can see you even saying won
Speaker 2:eight rounds yeah. Yeah, I think that in that camp he's getting older, he's war-torn literally and figuratively. It took a lot out of him.
Speaker 1:But yo again props to Loma. That's the best Haney we're ever going to see again.
Speaker 3:I thought the Regis fight was his best fight, to be honest. Oh yeah, he definitely put on a show, I ain't going to lie.
Speaker 1:I didn't think he was going to do him like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he dropped him and rocked him later on, definitely didn't see that coming.
Speaker 1:That was like the first 140 fight too.
Speaker 2:The only thing I hated about that is like not to go back on it because we talked about it whatever. Now, years ago, they were acting like Haney did such a crazy thing by going to Australia and going overseas in this hometown of Cambosis and it was like dude. The odds were like I think Haney was like minus 1200.
Speaker 3:Yeah he's still a huge favorite.
Speaker 2:They were gassing that up and the Haney's, like we went over there and we took the belt. I'm like dude, it was no offense, I like Cambosis as a person, but it was Cambosis Like stop it. It wasn't like you, you know. It wasn't like you, you know. It wasn't like you went there and did that to a TO or even a Hitchens Come on, he'd still be in some good fights, man.
Speaker 1:He'd be having an exciting fight.
Speaker 2:All right, let's just. I guess we'll just. Let's stay a little. Let's talk about the top-ranked guys first. Those fights, actually not the drama, drama. We'll just get into the top-ranked card fights quick. Nothing really much to say. Tiger Johnson really let a lot of us down. He did not look good at all. He looked small for 147. Not only that dude, he looked confused and his opponent was someone no one's ever heard of was just throwing one-twos, slow, sloppy one twos. The entire fight.
Speaker 3:And PJ, his trainer was yelling at him all fight.
Speaker 2:So I wrote that down too. I was like he didn't listen to a word he was saying. Pj was right, he didn't listen to anything he was saying and he just I don't know. I don't know if he got. Maybe I'm hoping he got hit with something that we didn't see and he was a little shook about it because he looked scared. He fought like a scared fighter when he was a big a side. After his last performance I thought knockout for sure, and that was not the case. That was probably the most boring fight of the night so you know what else.
Speaker 3:I think he looked past that guy because he told me he's like bro, I'm whooping Buddy's ass and I'm talking big shit. Afterwards he wanted to call out Rocha or Santillan. Oh man.
Speaker 2:Santillan's a dog too, bro. She finds Santillan is a fucking.
Speaker 3:When he told me that I was like, I honestly think you beat both of them, but now I'm like man you that was. He either got hit with something and it scared him or he hurt his hand. Yeah, yeah, that's the only thing I can think of.
Speaker 2:Because, dude, he was not throwing. His defense was okay. He was getting hit with one-twos and it was only one-twos, bro. I swear Like this guy was only one twos, bro, I swear this guy was only throwing one twos. It was weird, yeah, and leaping lead left hooks.
Speaker 1:And like, like yo, what's it called Barbosa? Yeah, yeah, it was literally like he's throwing one, twos.
Speaker 2:So it was like a worse Barbosa. That's a good analogy. It was a worse Barbosa. It was very, very odd and it kind kind of shocked me because I I thought for sure he was gonna get the ko. Especially I like what have you done for me lately? He was on the on the up and up. And then our guy troy eisley, another one, unlike the guy tiger, fought though this dude. I don't think troy expected him to be that decent. I sure as fuck didn't expect this guy. I didn't do much research on him. I knew he had like a good amateur career. Zillions bro yo his.
Speaker 2:I posted something about it and I can't get over and maybe I'm obsessing over it. This dude's arm length was like the fucking craziest thing I've ever seen. What was his reach, I think they said it was like, uh, eight, what, what's, what's wilders? Because they were comparing him to, like Deontay Wilders. He's in the 80s, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:As a middleweight. Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it was more than Deontay Wilder. It was fucking crazy dude.
Speaker 1:Bro the Brazilians and he got bounced. Bro, he moves around, I think it was in the 80s.
Speaker 2:I don't want to be wrong, because that sounds crazy that was an awkward fight for Troy man, those arms were fucking long I didn't watch that fight.
Speaker 3:I was out doing something. I didn't get in until Tiger's fight but a lot of people were saying Troy should have lost that fight.
Speaker 2:I don't think he, no, I think he did enough to win. It was definitely really really close. I thought some scorecards were a little in favor of Troy.
Speaker 1:It was like a straight boxing, boxing fight. It wasn't nothing crazy, it wasn't really a good fight they were just boxing the whole time.
Speaker 2:I'm not being biased because Troy's our guy, but I think he just kind of overlooked this guy too. But that guy knew how to use his length in the beginning anyway. He kind of lost it in the second half.
Speaker 1:He got movement, everything. He was pretty decent.
Speaker 2:Troy was moving out of the way right and the punches were still connecting because this dude's arms are just so fucking long.
Speaker 3:Well, that makes me wonder too, because Bomack had three fighters on that card. Yeah, Four, maybe True. I wonder how much attention he was getting in camp to actually focus on the fight. So we actually, when we interviewed the other one did work.
Speaker 1:I don't know which one I forgot which. The other one did work. I don't know which one I forgot which. I just seen his Instagram post. It had to do with the braids. He caught a body shot. It was to him. Keyon caught a body shot and the other one.
Speaker 2:Scooter.
Speaker 1:Scooter yes.
Speaker 2:Scooter, scooter.
Speaker 1:Yes, scooter's dope. He caught a crazy body shot. Had to do crawling. Yeah, sco, scooter's good.
Speaker 2:We actually asked Troy that when we interviewed him about when he was ready for it. I don't know why I want to talk to him again and be like why was that fight canceled? But anyway, when he was getting ready for his fight that got canceled. We asked him how is it training-wise with all of them? Because there's so many of you guys, the stable's crazy. But sometimes you both fight on nights and he was talking about Red, coach red and everybody, like how they all get it done and get working.
Speaker 1:but still you're right like, yeah, bow max that's a lot of work that you gotta give around you know one thing too mad people, he got mad he's got a lot.
Speaker 2:He's like eddie, he's like black eddie, yeah right uh, minus all of the pgs, literally you just took the words out of my mouth. I was like minus the roids.
Speaker 3:Bro, they might want to give Troy some, though, because I didn't realize the bros only got five knockouts in 15 fights. Yeah, I didn't know that, because he's big as shit.
Speaker 1:He is solid and muscular and everything, but I think it's just like he's an Olympian. He got that boxing style that just continues on, that has never really switched to the pros Again.
Speaker 2:I'm not being biased. I'm giving him a go watch this fight. I'm giving him a pass for this Edmundi guy. So I looked it up. The dude's reach is listed as 79 and a half. That's still a lot dude.
Speaker 3:That's crazy dude, that's a lot. 79 and a half.
Speaker 2:How tall 79 he is, that's a six foot nine height yeah, that's reach for a six foot nine guy. He's six foot and, dude, you saw it like his arms. I'm like what the fuck? He has legs on his arms, bro, ties his shoes standing up. Yeah, dude, it was crazy and he was. He had a good, good um pedigree from his amateur career so he knew what he was doing with it. He's coming off a big loss. I guess I didn't know much about him, but again, I think Troy just got in there with this guy and was like, oh shit, what the fuck? I was not expecting this. Whatever, he got the W, hopefully his next fight he shows out a little more. You are correct. You look at him and you think he's a knockout artist. He, you are correct, I do. You look at him and you think he's a knockout artist, and he doesn't come off like that when he's in the ring.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's weird but he be boxing man. He's got great momentum, he does his thing in there.
Speaker 2:He is very, he's very attentive and he asks the corner questions, which was cool to see too. He's very smart. And he got swag.
Speaker 1:He had some boots on too. I'm like what are those?
Speaker 2:He looks better under BOMAC than he did with Coach K Corona Way better. He asked BOMAC questions like what do you mean by that? It was cool to see shit like that. He's still To get to that next tier, though. You're right, he needs to.
Speaker 1:He's got to put combo.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it's the new age boxer or the new wave of boxing, but like putting combos together is kind of like dying in boxing, I think. Like like you don't, I'd say maybe one one 47 or one 40 and up, like putting combinations together. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:You know they went. I don't want to say I don't want to get shadow.
Speaker 3:I just feel like there's so many more. I feel like counter-punching evolved.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like that's what.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like they're great. Yeah, they're great counter-punches, but you know they was in the Olympics during that time. What COVID? Yeah, around that time. So so they had to get all that they don't. Maybe I may have something.
Speaker 3:I have the energy, it's just weird to me, but what I'm saying is that, like with, I feel like counter punching in general has gotten a lot better, so it's harder to throw combos when the guy you're fighting is a really good count oh yeah, yeah, that that that could be a point, but I just feel like it's.
Speaker 2:Is it being trained like, not like in sparring, are they throwing combos or just lately? But the general, I think my opinion of it is Canelo is still like the all eyes on Canelo Right, and when his style changed I noticed like pop shots, yeah, even take barely, throws punches in general, that's another one. So the two biggest eyes in boxing say what you want. They generate the money and they get all eyes on them, or not?
Speaker 1:combo those, but they actually get a knock. Well, I don't know about Canelo no more but Tank is getting knockouts with his shit. Yeah, yeah, he's just not a combo puncher at all. Yeah, he's not a combo. Yeah, they don't do combos, no more.
Speaker 2:So they don't do combos, no more. So, yeah, there's that, that's that card. Oh well, we have to talk about the man, the main event.
Speaker 3:Oh Abdullah, it's crazy, how did?
Speaker 2:you forget about that? Yeah, so Abdullah basically did what he was supposed to do, looked great, I think, from what I hear, and Top Rank is really good at navigating their fighters. So I don't really agree with it or think it's going to happen. But he's saying he's ready for belts. He wants a belt shot. Well, he's in line for one now.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was that, yeah, number two right, yeah, it's number two contender Him and Sam Noakes. Okay, so I do want to see him fight a guy like Sam Noakes. That would who? Who is he in line for? The vacant belt now, the belt that the wbo because kishan, yeah, yeah, because kishan dropped it.
Speaker 1:My bad yeah, kishan, he. That's why they that fight. They was amping each other up and shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, trying to fight so yeah, I'm here for it. Then I guess I just what scares me with him is when he did get knocked down in the fight before that, those knockdowns yeah, and like that's still gotta. He's clearly he did, he recovered, he did what he's supposed to do versus a very lesser opposition, but I I just as he fights tougher guys and it's not gonna go well if he gets hit like that yeah, but I feel like you know what, it's better for something like that to happen at that level than, yeah, when he does fight for a belt.
Speaker 3:A hundred percent, a hundred percent. You know like canelo got rocked by koto's brother early on and you know it was kind of like a wake-up call for him, stuff like that, you know yeah the date is sam noke still in that weight class he's ranked first in by the, by the same sanctioning body.
Speaker 2:He was supposed to be the next mandatory, because I'm just looking now because I didn't even hear that that his last fight was at 140. Oh, I could be wrong then.
Speaker 2:So I don't know that's just what I saw, unless that, unless the guy just weighed in at 140. But yeah, like, like a guy like that, I think that'd be great for him. And and one thing about those, those english fighters, is they're not great but they're skilled boxers, like they're very skilled boxing, talent, wise so you think his next fight should be a title fight? I guess well based off what he just said.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean the fight is vacant, I mean, I mean the belt is vacant.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I mean a title fighter or a mandatory eliminator.
Speaker 1:So what happens. So that means you think Keyshawn is moving up.
Speaker 2:He's down.
Speaker 1:He can't fight for his belt though.
Speaker 3:Even if he were to fight Edwin, because before it got canceled, what came out was only Edwin can win the belt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, keyshawn can't win the belt, even if he wins, he was stripped.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm saying like so, but if you fight it he can.
Speaker 2:His next fight can be that if he's at 140, but he's he's, I'm saying like his next fight at 135, if you go back, he can fight for the belt again, I know oh, yeah, yeah, 135 somebody, but I I mean if, if he goes and makes weight now, he's going to be banished from every fan.
Speaker 3:There's no way he goes back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's got to just go for it, right? There's no way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because it's not like he weighed in at 135.8, dude. Yeah, motherfucker, weighed in at 139.
Speaker 2:It's crazy dude. It's crazy, it's sad, Just sad. But yeah, sky is the limit literally for Abdullah Mason. And again, like I said earlier, very well spoken he did. Keyshawn bullied him a little bit and it was kind of fun to see. I was like, oh yeah, keyshawn's like fuck you little guy, Like this is my shit, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then Keyshawn did all that.
Speaker 2:He looked a little shaken up though A little bit Like I think he wasn't ready for it. I think he was blindsided Like what the fuck?
Speaker 3:Yeah, because I'm telling you I'm pretty sure they're cool. So he was probably like thrown off and like not only that, but, like we said, like he's a little beyond his years.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I don't think he was looking past Nakatilia either or however, you say his name, he's showing us like one of your brothers, like when you out, they start acting different in front of the huss.
Speaker 3:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:When the huss is around, they just start acting different. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Start talking shit about you on everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro. And they start like touching you, like yo, manhandling you, yo, the huss is around, make me look good, let me borrow the bins or something. They the ones like yo, don't you got an STD or something.
Speaker 2:I'm very interested to see Keyshawn's next move. What happens?
Speaker 1:He's still entertaining, though it's crazy. It's not really that many people that's entertaining like that.
Speaker 2:But again now it opened up this whole like it got me looking. He really fucked up A bunch of times.
Speaker 1:He really and he really needs To fight somebody. He was like Going like this Whoop Straight, like this, now it's down. It was like Down and one night it went all it hit rock bottom.
Speaker 3:Yeah, his, his stock plummeted.
Speaker 1:Yo, it's like really it didn't like grip, it's like nah his shit went down.
Speaker 2:It's going to just keep getting worse.
Speaker 1:That shit was like a real rollercoaster.
Speaker 3:And it's not like he's Like. I keep going back to it, but he's not a big enough star.
Speaker 1:Not yet. Yeah, to salvage that he was getting there, bro, he's 14 and 0. But who's a big enough star that can really back on.
Speaker 2:Well, look Gervonta Davis Tank. Gervonta Davis missed weight.
Speaker 1:He missed weight once and he came and did his thing. Yeah, he got knocked out, Bro he went to jail.
Speaker 3:He got yeah, yeah. Before he fought Hector Garcia, those reports came out that he was hitting his girl and stuff it wasn't true, but it was like none of that shit, man. Dude canelo failed a fucking drug test, yeah, and his next fight was still triple g.
Speaker 2:You could even say um arrow, spence jr all the shit he was going through.
Speaker 3:He fucking flipped a car, somehow lived arrow, tyson, fury yeah, like those are stars those are stars.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying, like kishan wasn't there yet he thought he was.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's not there, he's like but and it's like people try to tell you kishan's a superstar, like his fans try to tell you. It's like, it's like like people try to tell you that zendaya is a bad bitch and it's like she's not. You're just telling me that and you're calling me an asshole if I don't agree, like you can't. Don't tell me like, if you're a star, if you're a superstar, you don't have to tell me, like everybody knows everybody knows like I thought.
Speaker 2:I thought at 135 kishon was going to unify and I know the shakur fight he didn't want. That's why I posted that thing about like oh, I want him to fight shakur we talked about last episode'm like that would be the greatest fight, because the sky is like was really the limit for him. But he just jumped out the plane.
Speaker 1:He was on his way. We already knew, I knew. I said it before, when you were saying all that bullshit about him fighting Shakur, I was like it's, I knew he was going. We were lucky to get him at 135 again.
Speaker 3:Even Shakur. Shakur's a way bigger star than Keyshawn is.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Even he's trying to salvage his reputation after his fight with De La Santos and the Armenian guy.
Speaker 2:Boxing is a crazy world Crazy world to be in, but a guy whose stock is rising and, like we spoke about it earlier, a friend of yours and I'm going to let you take it away here because I did watch the highlights of it and I watched the first few rounds your boy, michael Angeletti, who is not Italian for our listeners that are listening yeah, it's trippy, it's not Italian guy. Okay, versus Eros Correa, phantom weight, 118-pound fight on the Pro Box card. Go ahead, take it away with your guy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, angioletti, if you guys don't know who he is, he's a super decorated amateur Traveled on the world team. Just look at the people who follow him and you're like, oh okay, so boxers know who he is. He's top 10 in the world in his weight class. He just I mean in america, that smaller weight class unless you're bam, you're not really gonna get recognized like that. But yeah, uh, the main event over on pro box got uh scratched. So he got elevated to the main event and he went in there and he won a clean sweep. He won every round. That dude had a chin on him because Mike can hit and there was one point in the fight Mike hit him with a left hook. That rocked him bad and I feel like it would have knocked most people out. I thought he was going to knock him out, but either way, he looked really good.
Speaker 2:So he does have power, he possesses good power. Because I didn't know much about him. I knew the name, I just didn't know much about him. And then I watched the highlights of this fight and I said the first four to six rounds I think I caught and I like his Philly Shell style. At least he was doing a Philly Shell style, but he was doing it the right way. When you do a Philly shell, you have to be defensively cognizant, I guess, and not get hit. You know what I mean. You got to know what you're doing.
Speaker 3:He's super well-rounded too. He's got a good inside game. He's got a great jab. He goes to the body. He's got good defense. Matter of fact, he's got a high ring IQ. He's the guy who told me we talked about it last week when Beck and Fulgham were fighting Fulgham. However you say his name, he's the one that messaged me. He's like bro Beck has no inside game. And then I looked at him. I'm like damn, he don't at all.
Speaker 2:And he caught on to it early, early and he's tall. He's very tall for for that weight he's like 5, 10 I think. Yeah, he's very tall for that weight, so so that it was good to see, but I did so. The fact that you say that that guy had a good chin makes sense to me, because the one thing I noticed I was like the only blemish. I even wrote in my notes like this guy would be like a five tool talent if he had a little more pop and zip on his punches. Yeah, so maybe I just saw it wrong and this dude's chin was just good like that.
Speaker 3:I'll send you a highlight from his last fight. He broke a dude's rib with one punch. Oh shit, he broke two of his ribs with a right hook to the body he looked familiar, though you've definitely seen him fight he looks like Michael Ealy from Barbershop and shit yo yo nah.
Speaker 1:deadass, he looked like a movie star. Deadass, he looked like he was in that in Barbershop.
Speaker 2:I just love the name Cause, like if you were like yo, yo like if I told my dad right, my dad's Italian, I was like yo, dad, go check out this guy, michael Angeletti. He'd be like oh Paisan.
Speaker 3:Yeah right, he'll be like what the fuck. And even his strength and conditioning he trains with like Rasul Douglas and KJ Hamler and shit, If you don't know who those guys are.
Speaker 2:Who's KJ Hamler?
Speaker 3:He was a really good wide receiver for Penn State and then he went to the NFL and he toured ACL twice. Okay, so he's like training with football dudes. Yeah, because Rasul Douglas is a cornerback for the Bills.
Speaker 2:Yeah, twice Okay. So he's like training with football dudes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because Rasul Douglas is a cornerback for the Bills.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Really good, I know that's cool, but that's wild.
Speaker 3:His brother-in-law Michael Angeletti, that is, His brother-in-law is an offensive lineman for the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 2:Oh shit. So he's got football in the fucking fam. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3:But he's 118, fuck the titans. But still I even told him that like he posted a picture of it. All I said was like you know, fuck the titans. And he's like laughing. He's like that's my brother-in-law. I was like, well, I hope he does great and the titans still lose 90 to nothing to the jaguars. We got four wins last year. Two of them were against the titans. It's all I care about.
Speaker 2:I fucking hate that team so much. How did you get affiliated with Angeletti? How did you meet?
Speaker 3:him. So when Punchlines was still young, when I only had less than 5,000 followers, one of the things I would do to try to get content, to get fighters to comment on it, I would post three like lesser known fighters from a weight class. It's actually how I got to meet shu shu. Okay, I'd be like rank these guys at this weight class, you know, and then I would tag the fighters and the fighters would share it or comment on it, and he was one of the guys that I got, and then he was the very first fighter I got signed to adams boxing. That's awesome, so yeah, so I've known him for a few years now nice, nice.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I'm interested now. I love when, like guys, that I have heard of him and it is harder that the lower weight classes don't get enough recognition and he would be in that category. Yeah, but I'm cool, anybody on pro box I love to follow.
Speaker 3:So like well, he was a pbc guy. He is actually a pbc prospect of the year. Like, oh really, first or second year as a boxer, wow and uh. He just fights on pro box now ever since pbc went to amazon. He can still fight on pbc, but it's like they only do a fight card every three months.
Speaker 2:Yeah fucking, maybe four, but that's awesome. But another guy who is 118, that is also a five tool kind of talent and has pop fought and we mentioned him earlier when I was giving a little previews of what we're going to talk about, juno Nakatani. He unified this morning in the wee hours. That guy, juno Nakatani is. He's Japanese. I don't know what the fuck is going on over there.
Speaker 3:it's absurd they are like he's one of my favorite fighters to watch, bro, he is so fun to watch so him and In a way, are are literally when they punch at that.
Speaker 2:I always talk about like that sound, like you know, once in a while you see a knockout and it makes a clapping sound and you're like holy shit, almost all of their punches make that sound when they connect. He's so light too that's crazy.
Speaker 3:don't get mad at me because I love this guy too, but nakatani beats the shit out of Bam Rodriguez Beats the shit out of him. I think he stops Bam. All right, man, see you later Nah.
Speaker 1:I think he stops. Bam bro, I can't do it.
Speaker 3:It hurts to say because, like look, but you guys know me, I'm going to be honest. Like I love Bam, I don't want to see him lose. But I think if he fights nakatani he loses, and he loses bad the only thing that angles the yeah, like that's what I'm gonna say, like, like it's a great fight.
Speaker 2:It's a great, great fight. It's it's gonna be. I wonder who vegas makes the favorite. That's, that's, that'd be interesting it'd have to be Nakatani.
Speaker 3:Nakatani's bigger too.
Speaker 1:He's big, he is big, he's big.
Speaker 2:He stands. But if Bam goes to that body, bam on the inside. Because Bam at that weight, bam's another one that could crack, not at 118.
Speaker 3:Yeah, at 115. Yeah, and lower, but not at 118.
Speaker 2:To me, though, it's just crazy. I feel like 120 and down. It's hard to get into. I'm saying power-wise. It's like does it translate? Does it need to translate? They're just all so light. Yeah, if you have power at that weight class.
Speaker 3:It's real. That's what makes Inoue crazy to have that high of a KO percentage for how small he is.
Speaker 2:Inoue is another one. I think the fight fight though, and I know Nakatani would have to go up in weight. But Inoue vs Nakatani. Excuse me, there's fucking fruit in my drink, I don't care what time of day that is. I don't care if it's at 2am.
Speaker 3:I'm watching that shit.
Speaker 2:And in Japan that fight fucking. They'll need to build a fucking fucking stadium on top of a stadium, and they might as well, they might just do it.
Speaker 1:I would love to go to that. I would just wish I was not broken. I'd just go. Oh my God.
Speaker 3:Bro, I stayed up late last night just to watch Nakata. I watched Predator 2. Yeah, I watched Predator 2 at like 1 am, just to stay awake. That's awesome, I was actually up.
Speaker 1:You stay awake during movies. I guess I'm old. I go to sleep every morning.
Speaker 3:If it's Predator, hell yeah, predator and Predator 2.
Speaker 1:How many times did you fucking watch the movie that you stayed up?
Speaker 3:Oh man, probably at least 50. I'm not even exaggerating my whole life, sky Stayed up and watched it.
Speaker 2:We have that um sky, so up and watch it. We have that that. That that's all boxing is so good right now, though, like when you follow boxing, the only drama, the drama, everything just makes it more better. Yeah, in a way it makes it more like it's annoying, but it makes it more, it gets more eyes. I just wish it wasn't us three bozos into boxing, like I wish. I wish my other friends like they just look at me like I'm annoying. I'm like no, it's a good fight.
Speaker 1:I swear It'd be a lot going on.
Speaker 3:Jai fought that fucking substitute teacher.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just watched highlights of that, because I hate when I know what's going to happen.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's not me taking a shot at Jai. If anything, it should be a compliment.
Speaker 2:I do like he's calling out Zerto, so that's a great fight Zerto versus Jai. Yeah, old-ass Badu Jack ain't going to fight him, I think. Badu versus.
Speaker 3:I think that's okay, just because I'd rather Badu retire. I don't want to see Badu get fucking beat the shit out of him His last fight.
Speaker 2:I love Badu, you have to have power, and his power isn't there for to be but Zerto.
Speaker 3:Jai beats the shit out of Zerto. He doesn't have the footwork, bro. Look at what Bavold did to him. I think Jai beats the shit out of Zerto Because Zerto can't fight at range. Jai's got that in and out style. Zerto can't fight at range, and Jai's got that in and out style.
Speaker 2:and Zerto would have to land something which he could.
Speaker 3:He's got the ability to do it, but I don't think it's likely.
Speaker 2:But, like you started this with Jai fought that substitute teacher Like we gotta see him, and then we gotta see him fight somebody like that. So I think Badu would be. I'd be okay with it. I know he's old, I know he's, he's weathered, very weathered, but he didn't look good in his last fight. No, no, but I feel like he could. He's smart enough to to just make it. I don't know it's, it would have been better than this dude. I don't know the fuck this.
Speaker 3:Claudio cicral I have no idea who he is and and like they just keep.
Speaker 2:He's also fighting in his hometown, just pumping money in his pockets, which is cool. I want to see him fight, and it's hard, it is cruiserweight. Or our boy, our guy.
Speaker 1:The.
Speaker 2:Italiano. Who, fuck, give me a minute. I'm having a brain fart With a guido. No, not guido, shit. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1:Well, if he's Italian, he fart With a guido. No, not guido Shit, what are you talking?
Speaker 3:about. Well, if he's Italian, he's definitely a guido.
Speaker 2:Hold on, he is a guido. But, not guido. What the fuck if I'm having a brain fart?
Speaker 1:What weight class again? What are you talking about?
Speaker 3:Cruiser weight bro.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're talking about Toro. I mean Torres.
Speaker 2:No, he was trained with boots. Fuck me Torres.
Speaker 3:No, there's an Italian guy that trains with boots.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what are you talking?
Speaker 2:about. Oh my god, when I say, I'm having a really big brain fart.
Speaker 1:Oh, we did an interview with him. Yeah, oh, fuck, what is his name, damn.
Speaker 3:Um.
Speaker 1:I'm about to go to bed.
Speaker 3:Bro, I know like four cruiserweights.
Speaker 1:He's a cruiserweight, but he big, he was just at the fight.
Speaker 2:Why can't I think of this guy? I'm having such a fucking brain fart.
Speaker 1:You just seen him at the fight. Hold on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, whatever.
Speaker 1:It's great, giovanni.
Speaker 2:What is his last name?
Speaker 1:Oh, lino.
Speaker 2:Linares. Wait what the hell, this is retarded Scuderi, giovanni Scuderi.
Speaker 3:I honestly don't know who that is.
Speaker 1:Nah.
Speaker 2:He's an Italian cruiserweight.
Speaker 1:We interviewed him.
Speaker 2:Great guy. The whole time we're talking to him he trained with Usyk in Usyk's camp. Usyk brought him in his camp for Fury. Awesome dude. Came over here from Sicily, spoke no English, came to New York with absolutely nothing and just made his way up and now he's in Philly. He trains in Philly, here from sicily, right, spoke no english, came to new york like with absolutely nothing and just made his way up and now he's in philly. He trains in philly and he trains in in under boozy, ennis and with boots. So damn, is he like athletic. Yeah, like most of those guys tall, tall, cruiserweight. You know he's like when you watch him he's tall, so he seems to be like a little awkward, but yo, he's training with boozy and he actually he just signed with um swift promotions.
Speaker 3:Danny garcia's oh, okay, yeah, yeah, they had a fight over the weekend too.
Speaker 2:I feel like yeah, yeah, like I saw that in like a mickey bay still fighting.
Speaker 3:What the?
Speaker 2:fuck boxing is crazy, dude, boxing is fucking crazy. But yeah, giovanni scuderia, fucking brain, fart bro I'm having to look him up.
Speaker 3:That's crazy. Like sounds like it was like the perfect sparring partner To prepare for Fury. Yeah, you know what? That brings me to a good point, because we just talked about that this week, willie. Did you see who Shakur Sparred with to prepare for Zepeda? Nah, who was that? Batir Akhmedov.
Speaker 1:The same dude he's a.
Speaker 3:He's a eastern european like slugger yeah and hella volume constant volume great cardio pressure pressure pressure, pressure pressure pressure.
Speaker 2:So he, he, it was perfect for Shakur and I. Actually I agreed I was like, wow, that's Zepeda, it's the closest thing to Zepeda without being Zepeda.
Speaker 1:That's crazy how they can find somebody that fights exactly that and that's smart.
Speaker 2:That's what we talked about too 100 punches a round.
Speaker 1:that's hard to train for Zepeda's throwing 100 punches a round. As soon as I saw that, I wonder if he can do that against Shakur, I wonder if he can get 100 points.
Speaker 2:He's heavy on Shakur now. He was already, but now he's.
Speaker 3:Yeah, when I saw that's who he was sparring with, I was like, oh bro, it's a wrap.
Speaker 2:It's a wrap. Let's just hope those hands are wrapped.
Speaker 3:Oh man, twice, Twice.
Speaker 1:Let's just hope those hands are wrapped. I got a feeling that this fight might not happen.
Speaker 3:I don't know man. Oh dude, Knock on wood, bro, Don't?
Speaker 1:say that yeah, listen, listen. For some reason, shaquille, I don't know, it might not go happen. It might not happen.
Speaker 2:All right, Going forward. We're having a long show again, but it's all good. It's just strictly boxing bullshit.
Speaker 1:My bad, I talk too much yeah 135 is such a freaking oh man, and the funny, it's, the craziest shit's happening in 135 right now, mm-hmm. So.
Speaker 2:I would Well. Tank is coming.
Speaker 1:He's fighting again Him, and Roach.
Speaker 2:But let's just do a preview real quick and then we'll touch on the announcements and then get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1:What on the?
Speaker 2:fucking preview. Oh Hitchens.
Speaker 3:Richardson H here preview. Oh uh, richardson hitchens versus cambosis yeah we shouldn't even have to talk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we don't. We don't have to, I just want to. I just have one thing to say, and and I hate to say it because he is really funny he comes at me on in the dm sometimes which I like, like he gets at me uh, he's, he's, hitchens is gonna. It's not even going to be a fun fight.
Speaker 1:That's what I was saying. I thought this fight was going to be boring.
Speaker 2:Hitchens is the closest thing to Shakur without being Shakur, so it's not even going to be fun to watch.
Speaker 3:It's either going to be boring or it's going to end badly For Kambosis at some point.
Speaker 2:And Kambosis has been getting a lot of opportunities, which I don't agree with. He always gets opportunities right. The only reason like him getting those belts from TO's off night. Say whatever you want, whatever. That's why he just instantly became food for everyone. He instantly became food for everyone and it's showing he's always in a belt fight, but he fights.
Speaker 3:He fights real people. He don't avoid nobody. He fights Just to live off of his name.
Speaker 2:He fights and he'll go down as one of those guys. That's like all heart. He's like a vowed ass to me, yeah, kind of Like never says, never takes no for an answer.
Speaker 3:But even when he won, the belt off of TO his very first fight. He didn't like oh, let me just get an easy opponent so I can get a big fight in Australia in front of my fans. His first defense was Lomachenko. Before Lomachenko had to pull out. Then it got replaced by Haney and he still fought him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true, and props to him for that. Yeah, he's definitely. But, again, and he's also on the way out.
Speaker 1:He's on the back end. I don't know about the champion.
Speaker 2:But I will say, I will say there is a method where I forget who it was, but where Hitchens looked bad and that was with that head in the chest. Lots of punches. Yeah, Lemos, Lemos, Lemos looked really, really sharp against Hitchens and some say he won that fight.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2:I heard people say that.
Speaker 1:Cambosa can land something. If Cambosa sees that he throws combos and they couldn't shake him up. Depends how sharp.
Speaker 2:It's just. The only thing is that Cambosa's last two or three fights. He also may have lost, but they gave it to him, so it were two goals too close.
Speaker 3:Well, he definitely lost the last fight. He got knocked the fuck out, yeah yeah, yeah, but I'm saying Before that the Maxie Hughes fight? Yeah, maxie Hughes Was another one.
Speaker 2:He's like whoa, that's crazy, that's crazy. So one of the One of the fighters Is up and up, hitchens is getting better Adjusting, and the other fighters.
Speaker 1:That's one thing Hitchin got for him. He's definitely been Looking great bro.
Speaker 3:He's been looking great. Yes, and you know what? It didn't look good To start that paro fight, but then he turned it on, yeah.
Speaker 2:But I there's only one way Cambosis pulls this off and that's with a knockdown, and then that that pressure, and he could. He needs to just Bite down on that mouthpiece and just be a dog and brawl. He needs to brawl him. He can't try to outwit him or outbox him.
Speaker 1:He needs to give him a good Australian brawl. 140 guys too. They got Russell, they got some people over there, they got 140.
Speaker 2:Cambosis needs to pound a fucking oil can of Faustus and fucking just get in there and brawl. That's his way to win.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's his way to win. Just make it a fight. Try to make him fight. Him Like make.
Speaker 2:The whole card is actually poop too. It's not a great card. Yeah, what's the co-main event Ethan.
Speaker 1:Damn, we waste our money.
Speaker 2:The co-main is Keyshawn's big rival, the guy he fought in the amateurs what the hell's his name?
Speaker 1:Oh, Andy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, andy, yeah, andy crew. Uh, we get to see andy cruise. Yeah, andy cruise. But like who's he fighting?
Speaker 1:yeah, it's not, it's nothing special. I mean, I don't even know. I just saw the name money for real kind of.
Speaker 2:But a little bit, we'll have fun.
Speaker 3:The quins on that card. That's the one I'm most looking forward to.
Speaker 1:But he's got white.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's your core and I'm gonna be yeah they'll all be there, the quins on that up and coming, because that last guy he fought. I like the Quinn too, but it's like bro who put this guy in the ring.
Speaker 3:Were you the one that told me he looked like Aladdin? Yeah, he did, he looked just like.
Speaker 2:Aladdin. He looked just like Aladdin and they kind of fought like. Aladdin, that'd be having Me and him are the only dumbasses up Mad late talking boxing, yeah, for real, but yeah, that's really all we got to say about that. What else? The heavyweight dude knocked out what the fuck he was supposed to fight Big Baby Miller.
Speaker 3:He was supposed to fight Big Baby Miller.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've seen that shit on it. I wrote it down. Hold on, I'm losing my mind.
Speaker 2:No, miller didn't fight. Fight big baby miller. Yeah, I've seen that shit on it. It says I wrote it down. Hold on, I'm fucking. No, miller didn't fight. I I kind of know why too, but I'm not gonna speak on it on air, whatever the, the fucking heavyweight knockout the big one in in england.
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness, oh wardley wardley yeah yeah, wardley, yeah knocked out hooney or whatever, yeah, yeah, but, but he was losing the whole fight. That was actually fight of the like, if some. If you watch that during the day, I know it was in england. That was the fight of the fucking weekend. That was a great fight and it was heavyweights. I just saw the knockout. I didn't know he was losing up. Yeah, dude, that was a really good fight, that's crazy. And then one punch changed everything. I think that was supposed to be. Wasn't that supposed to be?
Speaker 3:Jarrell Miller, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was because I seen his name on Stream East yeah.
Speaker 2:It was supposed to be Jarrell Miller, but he. I'll tell you what went on with that in a little bit yeah now I'm excited.
Speaker 3:I just want to talk about the fights that got announced before we leave.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll get out of here. So speak on that. Ring Magazine announced a bunch of hot fights, boxing is fucking, and PBC, pbc too. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3:The ring card, the ring card, the ring card. I actually didn't like that much the one fight, because what's the main event? They announced, oh, moises Aitama, the new up-and-comer. He's fighting Dillian White, which is interesting. I haven't seen White fight since that Tyson Fury fight.
Speaker 2:I don't even know if he's fought since I think Moises, moises crushes him, moises is like he's on, like that he's on the yeah, he's, he's. He's what jared anderson was sold to us as exactly good good point and, like he also, I always say English fighters are inflated. English fighters are inflated like blah, blah, blah. They are, except for the heavyweights. Whatever they do to their heavyweights over there, it's working, because they always have top heavyweights and he is top tier talent. You can see it.
Speaker 3:He is, but still, I don't know if that's a main event fight. You see what I'm saying. I't know if that's a main event fight. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's a main event to get me excited. But Dillian White sells in England, so he's going to fuck you. They're going that route.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because the co-main is Nick Ball versus Sam Goodman, the Australian. Here's the thing. Nick Ball, that's who beat Raymond Ford. Yep, he loves.
Speaker 1:Nick Ball.
Speaker 3:And a lot of people thought he bit. A lot of people thought he beat ray vargas. He got the draw against ray vargas when most people thought he should have won and then he beat raymond ford and he got all these fans. But now he's had two fights since that raymond ford fight didn't look and this is his third and it's going to be, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong, chat or anybody, but I want to say this is the third fight in a row since Ford that he's fighting somebody moving up, because Goodman is normally at 122 um, is he?
Speaker 2:no, I thought. I thought Goodman was. No, I think good, because there was a fight scheduled for Goodman and something happened. He backed out. I think Goodman was and something happened, he backed out. I think Goodman was supposed to fight right before he hurt his hand, okay, yeah, or his eye, something like that.
Speaker 3:He got a cut on his eye or he hurt his hand.
Speaker 2:He backed out of one of the fights I forget versus who, but I think it was at. I could be wrong, though it's hard to follow Real quick, though not to interrupt you, but someone in the chat I think he's friends with you. Punchlines TMO underscore. Dom said.
Speaker 3:I don't know. Haney going to win against Lopez question mark.
Speaker 2:Oh, I mean, we'll talk more about that when the fight announces.
Speaker 3:We've talked about it before. There's ways, both fighters, not to disregard your, your question, brother, but that's a conversation for another time. And what?
Speaker 2:it's a. It's a good fight and that's like an hour-long conversation oh, that's dumb, that's, he's down here oh, is he.
Speaker 3:Is he, oh, my bad but the third fight on that card uh is raymond ford and he's fighting. I can never say his name kakashi, the guy that just beat the shit out of lee wood. Kakashi, yeah, and knocked out. Uh is Raymond Ford, and he's fighting.
Speaker 2:I can never say his name Kakashi, the guy that just beat the shit out of Lee Wood. Kakashi, yeah, and knocked out Corvina. Irish dude, he's Irish. I thought he was British for some reason, whatever. Well, no, he fights out of Britain, but I think he's like an Irish dude, yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's a good fight.
Speaker 2:I think Ray can beat him, though I'm curious to see Ray Ford in this fight because, based on his last performance, his stock lowered for me.
Speaker 1:He was there for that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and this Kakashi guy, or however you say it Kakaki, kakaki could fucking, he could box, he's got concrete in his hands. Yeah, and he's not backing down. The only thing is he is a little old. But those Irish dudes, they often get robbed. I swear to god, they're always getting robbed.
Speaker 3:In the UK, though. Well, you know what, though? Raymond is Eddie's boy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm curious to see what happens here. But you're right, that is an exciting fight.
Speaker 1:Ray Ford needs to show out he's going to make them fight him, especially with all the shit he was talking. But you're right, that is an exciting fight. Ray Ford needs to show out. If Ray Ford shows out in this fight, he's going to make him fight him.
Speaker 3:Especially with all the shit he was talking Because he was trying to fight Oshaki for his belt.
Speaker 2:Yep, and then that's another fight that got announced.
Speaker 3:Boy, I'm so excited for Oshaki versus Fulton at 130.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that was insane.
Speaker 3:I forgot about that one. That's a massive fight. That's exciting for two reasons Not only is that a great fight, but Fulton is going to vacate his 26-pound belt, which means our boy should get a title shot. Should, should, should it's there, it's there and he's a ring ambassador Top rank is leaving ESPN in August. He has to right, he has to. He just got to get. I don't want to jinx it, knock on wood.
Speaker 1:Knock on wood. Shoe has got the best life right now. He's just going on. He's just doing a bunch of fights.
Speaker 2:We say that, we say that, but he wants one thing A belt.
Speaker 1:Yeah bro, he's getting everything he wants. Right now he's living life bro.
Speaker 3:And then there's another fight that got announced on that card, because that's the, because it's the co-main to Tank versus Roach right Oshaki versus.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Oshaki versus what's his face.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's on that card.
Speaker 2:The Tank versus Somebody else. Yeah, that's on that card.
Speaker 1:The tape work card. Isn't somebody else on that card too?
Speaker 3:Yeah, somebody, literally I can't fucking remember I don't know, but I remember seeing it. I was like damn, I want to see that too, but I can't remember, I know dude.
Speaker 1:You hear me all the time. Is it the ring or not?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know dude, you hear me all day. Is it the ring or?
Speaker 3:not yeah the ring no no, the PBC card.
Speaker 2:PBC card.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because it's going to be shocking. I'm going to look it up. Let me go to Moe Boxing, no problem, because they're the ones that post all this shit Shout out to Jose at Moe Boxing, no problem, that's my boy.
Speaker 2:Another issue I have with following boxing is Boxing is Pacquiao and one, no that one no no, no, that's what we're
Speaker 1:doing right now the name game bro. There's so many names, that's a lie Wow, pacquiao Barrios, they got Fandora. Tim Zhu Pitbull.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's, another Pitbull Wow.
Speaker 3:Fandora Zhu is a good fight coming up Versus Joette Gonzalez, which I don't give a shit about.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, that's on there. Where the fuck is the rest of these shits at?
Speaker 3:I'm going to lose my fucking mind if I don't.
Speaker 2:My memory with names is so bad. Why got an X on this?
Speaker 1:one, I don't know, I don't know if it's going to take place in December. Oh, this is old.
Speaker 2:Yo, I'm looking at Kakashi. I'm looking at Kakaki Kakash. I'm looking at his resume right now, right, right, he's pretty good man. Knocked out Joe Cordina, bad Josh Warrington he was old but he beat him Whatever. And then the Lee Wood TKO this dude, nick Ball.
Speaker 1:Nick Ball. Yeah, I can't find that, not Nick Ball, I'm sorry find that Not Nick Ball, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Ray Ford gonna learn. Ray Ford gonna learn Something here.
Speaker 3:Yeah he, he beat the. He beat the breaks off Lee Wood and and Cordina. No, I didn't think he was gonna beat Cordina and he beat the shit out of Cordina.
Speaker 2:Their ratings don't mean anything, but BoxRec has him above Oshaki too, which is weird. The Kakashi guy. I'm interested to see what the odds show too, because they got him above Ray Ford. He's old, though that's his only thing he is old.
Speaker 3:Damn bro, I can't find the other fight that was announced for that card. Whatever Must not be that important.
Speaker 2:But there is a lot of boxing coming up, which means we're staying in business. We don't make money. We make no money off this business, but we're staying in business. Lots to talk about. We're not always just talking about the drama. If you made it this far, usually it's the radio listeners that make it this far. But if you did make it this far and you don't already follow him, follow punchlines, underscore boxing for a good laugh. Funniest guy in all boxing social media. And he's not saying that I am.
Speaker 2:Thank you, bro, and my Bubu andrade documentary will be out this week he's coming up with documentaries and he's gonna he's gonna add you're gonna talk in the background, right, and like put videos in and shit yeah it's gonna be basically this angle of me talking and then and the screen, then it'll be me talking with just pictures filling the screen and highlights and clips.
Speaker 3:That's awesome.
Speaker 1:Things like that. That's fire.
Speaker 2:And, yeah, also make sure you peep the Spar in Instagram because we are going to fights this weekend. Yeah, we are going to see Hitchens Kambosis.
Speaker 1:Finally, we are on a Saturday. Yeah Woo, I'll get to do some rest.
Speaker 2:If you know us, every time we go to a fight, it's pretty crazy. It's a movie, no matter who's fighting. Get content If you talking to fighters. Yeah, yeah, we will try, but uh, usually it's just me talking to shit to fighters in the ring. But we will do our best, uh, but yeah, it's always a good time, Always a good time.