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Part 2 of 2: Boxing's Triple Threat Weekend Preview: PAC's Return, "BAM" IN TX & USYK vs DUBOIS 2

PUMA AND WILLIE

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The hosts analyze multiple boxing events happening in one weekend, focusing on Usyk-Dubois, Rodriguez-Cafu, Pacheco-McCumby, and Pacquiao's return against Barrios.

• Usyk expected to overcome Dubois in rematch despite controversial first encounter
• Daniel Dubois training specifically on the body shot combination that dropped Usyk previously
• Trevor McCumby facing highly-touted prospect Diego Pacheco with legitimate puncher's chance
• Will Jesse "Bam" Rodriguez continue to impress with exceptional footwork and angle creation
• Manny Pacquiao fighting after four-year layoff against current champion Mario Barrios
• Sebastian Fundora vs Tim Tszyu rematch carrying significant intrigue after cut stoppage in first fight
• Doghouse open sparring event in Brooklyn showcasing real talent including Rashidi Ellis
• Boxing politics affecting fight scheduling with fighters being booked for future bouts before completing current ones


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Boxing Weekend Preview

Speaker 1

Let's just get right into it , right ? You want to talk about Usyk-Dubois first ? Yeah , that's the first fight right Punch . Do you always go off the rip Like you don't take notes or do you do any research , or are you just what you think and what you know ? I'm curious . Yeah , just what I know . That's crazy dude . Good for you . Thanks , bro . I have the worst short-term memory ever . The shit is just fucking gone .

Speaker 2

Bro , when I used to do comedy I didn't even write my jokes down , Everything was in my head because I I hated when I'd go to an open mic you'd see comedians like reading jokes off their phone no , that's dumb , that's dumb yeah , it's like , well , it's common . I'm not like it's a , it's a thing , but it's like I'm gonna work on memorizing it in my head because I'm gonna need to do that when I when I get longer set . So I actually never .

Speaker 1

I never wrote a single joke down that's what you should do , though , like you can't , when you read it off the cuff , it doesn't hold the same weight in my opinion .

Speaker 2

Well , no , they would look it up like they would have jokes in their phone . I'm not saying they would read it off their phone like a script , but they would look through their , their like jokes and see like , which joke to tell next . But while on set , like live at an open mic , oh , think of an open mic like sparring yeah , but still like at an open mic .

Speaker 2

Think of an open mic like sparring yeah , but still at an open mic . I was like , look , I'm going to work on memorizing this and if I can tie it with it , I wouldn't do that . Oh , what should I tell next ? What should I tell next ?

Speaker 1

But speaking of open mic like sparring , you just made something come into my head that I want to shout out real quick Yo .

Speaker 3

Why are you holding your iPhone ?

Speaker 1

Because , I'm excited about this and I hope it keeps happening , because I couldn't go . That fucking sparring thing that Turk did we didn't touch on that Friday . Yeah , that doghouse open sparring shit Turk did in Brooklyn . Did you see that , Willie ? That was Turk . I thought that was MVP . No , it was Turk . And Box Raw . Yeah , Dude , that shit was fucking fire . Bro Rashidi versus Jaleel Hackett fire .

Speaker 2

That's a real fight . That's a real fight and you guys know I'm a big Rashidi Ellis fan Fire .

Speaker 1

Sly says 168 has some killers on the rise , pacheco billy , etc . This , this has been an awesome show . You know I love the sly tendency guy . I don't know you , I don't know where you're from . We were talking your girl and you went to a weird al yankovic concert , but I like you man , he's super cool .

Speaker 2

he messaged me all the time . Yeah , um , here's the only criticism I have of that shit , though . What ? Uh , like showcase these fighters that , like you , you know it's good fighters but are like not popular . The whole thing was to show , showcase them , right ? Yeah , if you go to the post , they have like two , maybe three posts where they actually say who it is in the ring , and then when you slide through all these pictures , you can't tell who any of them are , because they're in headgear . They are because they're in headgear .

Speaker 2

they got shirts on the only people tagged are box , raw box or just tagged themselves . I was like I love how y'all only tag yourself so we can't tell who the fuck it is yeah , that's fucked up .

Speaker 1

That is like we don't care about box raw .

Speaker 2

Tell me who the fuck ring .

Speaker 1

Shout out to pete dobson though . Bro , pistol pete , he's , he's . Everyone knows him in the pro ranks and amateur ranks in new york . Uh , he's a local . Yo , pistol Pete did his fucking thing . I don't know who the fuck he was sparring , but he's like I'm getting on this Canelo card , I'm getting on this fucking Canelo card and he's really , really , really , really good . He gave Conor Benn a run for his fucking money . So Pete Dobson is he's like . He fucked this dude up . That's another fight out of there , marquis Chet knocked out a dude too .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 3

I saw that too , bro . That shit was embarrassing . And what's his name ? Kurt Scooby Scooby .

Speaker 2

yeah , he dropped out of the bar .

Speaker 3

You out there just sparring . You think you're in a sparring match . You get knocked out , or live TV , that shit was sick , bro .

Speaker 1

That shit was sick , bro . That shit was cool , though that shit was cool On stream as well . Oh God , dude , the shit like if we had money like that to just have fun , like Turk does Jesus .

Speaker 2

Christ . All right , I'm hoping Rashidi can get on that card , man .

Speaker 1

No , rashidi needs a fight man , and actually we already spoke . We're going to try and get Rashidi on the show Nice yeah . To try and get rashidi on the show nice yeah . So all right , let's get into it , though we we have . We got to make this quick . Willie's gonna kill me , bro . Willie got to sleep , bro . God damn you . You , we're working men . Uh . Alexander usic versus daniel dubois , lawrence acoli versus kevin larina on the undercard . Let's just because time purposes , we're just going to speak on Alexander Usyk versus Danny Dubois . There's not much to really speak on .

Speaker 3

They fought each other once before my boy got robbed for the knockdown , willie thinks he got robbed he got robbed for the knockdown .

Speaker 1

And you know what , willie , you could make that argument and you know I'll give it to you . You could argue that right U , I'll give it to you . You could argue that right Usyk is not losing or making it back close again . Look what he did to Fury , the pound for pound , best heavyweight , the heavyweight they said could fight in any era of boxing . Look what Usyk did to him the second time . And Dubois is not on the same level as Tyson Fury . That's just my opinion . Punch , go ahead .

Speaker 2

What do you got ? No , I'm pretty much the same . I'm going to keep it short . He looks better than he has before . He's on a good win streak . If Usyk is still Usyk and still mentally all committed ,

Doghouse Open Sparring Event

Speaker 2

I think it's a wash .

Speaker 1

And I think Usyk is .

Speaker 3

Usyk is , usyk is . My boy got a punching chance , that's all I got to say , yeah , he does .

Speaker 1

And I want to give Dubois his credit . One thing I noticed about him while he trains , he's getting better bro . While he trains , while he trains I just spit .

Speaker 3

That shit works . Nah , richardson was spitting all over me , bro , I'm poor . Oh nah , richardson was spitting all over me . Oh bro , I was poor . Yo say hello man Say hello , this guy was just yelling . I'm like I know he's just passionate right now , but he's just flying , bro , shit was flying .

Speaker 1

Yo , I saw something , though In just the few clips they post when Dubois was training , and multiple pros have told me this he's working and this is what knocked Usyk down , even though it was low or arguably not low . He's working on the same thing over and over again , the same combo , over and over and over again . And if you look at that last Usyk fight when he's hitting the pads , the same combo that knocked Usyk down was what he was working on in the pads , over and over and over again . And he knows Usyk's weak to the body . So I'm not going to say he doesn't have a shot , but I'm just saying Usyk is going to adapt and overcome man .

Speaker 2

You also got to expect Usyk , to expect that too .

Speaker 1

That's what I'm saying Adapt and overcome .

Speaker 2

Usyk is not , is not sick is the best , the best heavyweight that we have seen yeah , and he won't tell you that , though that's the crazy thing about him he's mike mike ladaris just said are you guys still rating female fighters ?

Speaker 3

alicia bum garter , isn't that hot I'd rather pipe michaela meyer yo you , mike God damn that video went viral , though he said . I'd rather pipe McKayla Meyer Listen she wasn't on the car so McKayla couldn't be in the smash a pass .

Speaker 1

Guys , guys , we're going to keep this PG 13 . I'm team McKayla Meyer for various reasons . That's all I'm going to say . We talked about that earlier in the show , show rewind . I'm a loyal man . Yeah , he's . He's like the english . He likes a good english english , fucking muffet . Let's keep going . All right , um , all right . So let's give our . We gave no predictions . We always give a prediction . Let's give one final prediction . Willie , you go first . What do you ? What's your prediction in this fight ?

Speaker 3

and willie , willie's been tearing it up I'm betting , at least it depends with the over under , on the knockdowns , at least over . I'm betting , at least it depends what the over under and the knockdowns , at least over one One knockdown , at least over one knockdown . It depends what it's the over under . I don't even know what it is . That's probably going to be my best bet .

Speaker 1

I'm doing it . So I'm going to go and then punch , we're going to give it to you . I'm going Oleksandr Usyk KO TKO . I don't know when I might do a round bet seven through nine or something , a round group bet , but Oleksandr Usyk KO TKO in a fun fight .

Speaker 2

I'm going TKO , I think , and I think specifically it'll be a corner stoppage , Like stopped in the corner in between rounds .

Speaker 1

All right , the picks are in . That's it for that fight . The undercard looks okay . The good thing about this fight is it's at Wembley . It's probably going to sell out Wembley because those , the English fans , fucking show up . Those are real boxing fans . Punch you with us , hold on boxing fans . Um , punch you with us , hold on . Yeah , can you see me ? Yeah , you froze a little bit , it's all good . The wembley and and the english fans are the real fans of boxing . They , they are . They are purists . Uh , laurence acoli versus kevin lorena on the undercard . That's a popular fight as well . We're not going to touch it , though , because we are time constrained . We've been here too long , my ass hurts . We're going to keep it moving . What's the next ? Are time constrained , we've been here too long , my ass hurts . We're going to keep it moving . What's the next card you want to talk about ? The best thing about this card is that this is a day fight on the East Coast or in America , and then that followed by what do you want ?

Speaker 2

I think we should do the other because it's less popular .

Speaker 1

Which one ? The BAM card ? Yeah , the BAM card . I don't want to talk about the whole card , though , unless you have something you want to talk about .

Speaker 2

I am excited for Pacheco McCombie . I really am .

Speaker 1

I love Trevor . Oh , yeah , yeah , yeah , of course , oh .

Speaker 3

God Trevor's mean . I totally forgot they were on that card . Oh fuck , that's crazy .

Speaker 1

What's your take ? Cake on that punch . And you know , everyone that follows the show knows we're big trevor mccombie fans . He's , he's great with us he's got a shot .

Speaker 2

But I mean playing showed that he has . He didn't have an inside game and he got tired . So if he , if he fixed that , he's got . He's got a shot . You think dubai's got a puncher's chance , mccombie got a puncher's chance . That motherfucker's strong and he hits hard . But and pacheco , he's really good . You know he's up in like a highly touted , up-and-coming fighter for a reason , but he's not a perfect fighter no and he's also very young .

Speaker 1

We forget how young he is you forget trevor . Trevor be chopping wood and shit in the woods yeah so he and and trevor never , ever ever goes into a fight like to lose or just for a paycheck , like if he's training for a fight , it's to win and he has power in both hands and that showed against caleb plant .

Speaker 1

And and many argue that was an early stoppage which I do , he was , he was getting tagged up , but many argue it was it was an early stoppage , especially since he knocked caleb plant out . Or , I'm sorry down , he knocked caleb plant down , but again , uh , it's one of those things where , like , and I'm just being honest , again , I'm , I'm sorry down , he knocked caleb plant down , but again , uh , it's one of those things where , like , and I'm just being honest , again , I'm , I'm putting , I'll probably put a hundred bucks on trevor ko tko , because I'm a trevor fan and I'm backing my guy . But , ah , pacheco's pacheco . I hope he learned from that last fight , because I'm big on what have you done for me lately . And in that last fight was a really , really tough fight for him and versus a really game opponent and he did win decisively . But you know .

Speaker 2

My head tells me Pacheco , but I am rooting for very much so McCombie , my mind's telling me no , but my body , my body telling me .

Speaker 3

Yeah , Trevor McCombie man , we definitely root for you . Yeah , 100% . I hope you knock him out . He came on the podcast man . Great show , Seriously , you know what ?

Speaker 1

Even if McCombie loses right , Like he said , You're on the podcast .

Speaker 3

Man , you're cool as shit . Great show , you got fucking morals , you got everything and you know what .

Speaker 1

You know what , even if McCombie loses right , like he said . We asked him and you guys should go look back at our fucking history or whatever McCombie said I was like what's the biggest fight to make out of so-and-so , basically Canelo's leftovers ? And he said I think that Berlanga fight is the biggest fight . To make me versus Berlanga . And now say McCombie does lose right and I do not want him to lose , I want him to beat Pacheco's ass , say he loses , that Berlanga fight now is a real big money fight .

Speaker 2

Oh , yeah , If he looks good against Pacheco , like if he doesn't get blitzed by Pacheco at least like complete washed . It's definitely a fight and his fight outfit is sick , I don't want to tell you .

Speaker 1

You gave me a little inside info . Yeah , it is sick oh shit . All I'm going to say is proud to be an American .

Speaker 3

Oh yeah , we need more of those . He got a whole image that is going for him .

Speaker 1

Dude , I love Trevor McComfie bro .

Speaker 3

I love the stash . He got the stash , he's just real . I love real people Just keep it real , he works in youth yeah .

Speaker 1

Austin .

Speaker 2

Williams is on that card too . Yeah , but I don't know who that is , he's fighting Me neither .

Speaker 3

What Girth just said about Saudis already booking Bam against a killer .

Speaker 1

I don't like that . Girth Brooks says I don't like that the Saudis are already . Yeah , yeah , yeah , I saw that too . I don't like that . The Saudis are already booking Bam against that killer when Bam

Usyk vs. Dubois Analysis

Speaker 1

already has a fight booked . Yeah , I don't like that either .

Speaker 2

You said it all the time it's like you can't make your next fight before your next fight .

Speaker 1

You know what I'm saying Don't pick your next fight before your next fight . I say it non-stop .

Speaker 2

I'm with him . They're doing that a lot .

Speaker 3

now they're doing that a lot . They're just scheduling everything .

Speaker 2

They do that a lot now . They do that a lot . They just schedule everything . They said that they want to make this . Like , oh , we want to make these fights , but they don't actually announce it . Like Bam is on the fucking fight poster for a card in November when he fights this weekend .

Speaker 3

And like Now , what if he loses , but he's not ? What if he loses this weekend ? And then what are they going to say ?

Speaker 2

But here ? What if he loses ? But he's not . What if he loses this weekend ? What are they going to say ? Here's the thing . This is the sport of . Anything can happen .

Speaker 1

A puncher's chance is like any given Sunday . It should be any given boxing match . It shouldn't even be any given Sunday it should be any given boxing match , willie .

Speaker 2

Beeman Got the girls creaming . That's the song , though . But what I'm saying , though , is like , yeah , I don't think he's going to lose Spoiler alert but if he does , what do you do ? Just have him fight another guy on a card ? What if he wants that ?

Speaker 1

And if you look and it's the lesser weight classes , so nobody really , and we'll just get into it . We're talking about Jesse Rodriguez versus I don't know if I'm gonna say it's right familiar kafu . Um , I don't know much about familiar kafu because it is the lesser weight classes and there's so many fucking boxers and fights going on . It's hard to analyze everything when you have a real job and and boxing doesn't make you money . But from what it looks like he trained hard . He just pulled up to dlx gym , which is a good look . Um , jesse rodriguez is jesse rodriguez . And , as I always say another thing , I always say tears matter and there's tears in boxing and say what you want about jesse rodriguez . There is jesse rodriguez .

Speaker 1

Haters is out there . Jesse rodriguez is top , top tier talent , like he's top tier talent and and the fact that I don't know anything about Fumilia Cafu means that he is not top , top tier talent and that's not taking anything away from him . He still has that any given Sunday chance and I hope he puts on a great performance and a great fight . But this is like to me . In my opinion and again , I know nothing about Cafu this is Jesse Rodriguez's first real , like gimme fight in a long time . Based off what I know about him , you know what I mean no Like . So you're saying Jesse Rodriguez's resume is shit ?

Speaker 2

Oh , I thought you said this is his first real long time and I'm like what are you talking about ?

Speaker 1

No , no , no , this is his first tune-up fight . Not that he needs a tune-up , that's not what .

Speaker 3

I heard Nah . Bam's been wanting to fight all the best , like all the legends , all the Sly says Cafu is a good boxer .

Speaker 1

I don't think he has much for Bam . But Kafu is a good boxer . I don't think he has much for Bam . But a lot of people thought that Angelo Leo was food for Venado Lopez . Yeah , that's facts .

Speaker 2

Venado makes a lot more mistakes than Bam does to be honest Bam is just getting better and better . He's trained .

Speaker 1

He can be dropped . Yeah , he can be dropped , but what does he do ? This is my best thing I love about fighters what do you do when you get dropped ? That's why I like Inouye . What do you do when you get dropped ? How do you respond when you get dropped ? And Bam fucking responds ? And then you look at Bam's resume . Dude , people hate on him because , again , it's the lesser weight classes . They're not advertised like the heavier ones . Bam is a motherfucking problem .

Speaker 2

He moved up in weight and took a fight against carlos quadras as a last second replacement and beat his ass bro like like bam doesn't just win , he wins and while getting dropped and he got aura , yeah , he got swag bro for like when he come out with with his tattoos .

Speaker 3

now he he got like he's a young American .

Speaker 1

He's just a young , cali Texas , texas , texas .

Speaker 3

He's got Cali swag though .

Speaker 2

With his shifts and his movements and his turns . Somebody said he's like , this is like if Riggo was a front foot fighter .

Speaker 1

And had a little more dog in him .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's what I'm saying .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , like His angles , bro . Like , you're right , bam's angles are . I said this a while ago . I said this a while ago like when you're training a young fighter , right like just starting the box , you show him Bam footage and go this is what you want to do with your feet . Like this is what you want to do with your feet , kind of like Loma , kind of like Loma .

Speaker 3

I've been trying to teach Jaden that shit he got a shuffle replace he doing that shit naturally , and then he would throw a punch on you .

Speaker 1

Sly says he got up smiling and slept El Gallo , and he's right he did .

Speaker 2

Go look at his knockdown of quadras , bro . Beautiful things the way he feints the step and then does the step ?

Speaker 1

and then switches and throws an uppercut . Dude that went viral . That went viral on every combat sports fucking video . That's the shit I was talking about .

Speaker 3

That's exactly the shit I was talking about Yo , and I'll be trying to teach that same combination , bro , with that .

Speaker 1

I almost like . At this point in his career he showed he can get knocked down . But like the old song goes , he's still young as hell .

Trevor McCombie vs. Pacheco Preview

Speaker 3

We forget how young he is . Yeah , that's true too . It's crazy and he was getting mentioned in Pound for Pound as that young .

Speaker 1

All right , so everything else on the card . I think that was what else ? Is there another card , or is ? I think we're ? We finally reached the ?

Speaker 2

end . Tack y'all card , oh shit .

Speaker 1

That's the biggest fucking name in the air .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's why I said we should .

Speaker 3

We should have just did two different shows we should have did like a . Tuesday or Wednesday .

Speaker 1

Yo , if Four Corners does really well , I bet you somebody made that suggestion to Puma .

Speaker 2

I bet you somebody told Puma he should do that .

Speaker 3

Like a Wednesday . Yeah , everyone's shit .

Speaker 1

Someone did and he might be on the show now .

Speaker 3

Oh wow , that's crazy . We can do two days , no , we should do two .

Speaker 2

Me and Willie are fucking locked in dog . I can do Monday , you can't do .

Speaker 3

Mondays , though that's like too close together , Like Sunday and Monday .

Speaker 1

Yeah , but I work Tuesday through Friday . We'll talk about this off air . God damn it . Yeah , we don't have to talk about the whole card .

Speaker 2

I don't care about Brandon Figueroa fighting Joe Gonzalez . I'm going to watch it , but I don't care .

Speaker 1

I don't care about anything on that card . Obviously , I care about Manny Pacquiao and , based off the information that I received from a friend of mine , I was leaning more towards the other way .

Speaker 2

I still don't care about it . It's not a real . Even if he wins , he's not going to defend it against anybody worth a pub .

Speaker 1

He's not going to win , dude , he's not going to win .

Speaker 2

This is basically , but I do care about Zufandora .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah , zufandora we have to touch on . Yeah , yeah For sure , and that's on the undercard Prop . Yeah for sure , and that's on the undercard Props to them for putting Once again , the co-main is the best fight . This is what the Turk effect does , though . They put good cards together , they put the pressure . This is why this is like in business , right Going in history . Business teachers should teach this . Why you can't have a monopoly , because this is just generating money for each entity , because we're like damn , this is a good card , not a great card , but it's named . It's named though . It's named recognition .

Speaker 2

PBC does a lot of this shit . They put names on it , but the odds are always just so wide , bro .

Speaker 1

Yeah , sly says pissed about Anthony Karrasch pulling out . Yeah , me too .

Speaker 2

He hurt his back bro .

Speaker 1

I don't think like usually I'd say oh he's ducking , but I don't think karas is taking ducks like he's .

Speaker 2

He's actually hurt yeah um on a saudi card .

Speaker 1

He's not pulling out of that no , no , hell , no , hell , no , hell , no , and and that's that's in . That's a winnable fight for him and I'm team ford , but anyway , let's , let's keep it rolling . We got to stay on track . This is tough with the comments . I don't care about Pitbull's fight . I honestly do not .

Speaker 2

I don't care about that either .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I don't like him either . He has knockout power , but he's the most one-dimensional fighter in the game .

Speaker 2

And his fans are fucking awful .

Speaker 1

Yeah , just because he did well against Tank or he lasted with Tank , he even did well .

Speaker 2

One-handed Tank , by the way , yeah he went the distance we took him on short notice . But then even when he lost to Rail , everybody was like oh , rail just ran , rail just ran . No , no , he moved . Yeah , it's stupid .

Speaker 1

That was a great fight . Anyway , let's stay on track here , because we got to wrap this up , I got to fucking edit this shit . Assholes , pacquiao , pacquiao , manny Pacquiao versus .

Speaker 2

Mario Barrios .

Speaker 1

I almost said Mario Lopez . I was like it's not Mario Lopez , manny Pacquiao versus Mario Lopez , I mean Barrios .

Speaker 3

It's time to go Listen age .

Speaker 1

The best thing I can compare this to is Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul . The Pacquiao clips we see right , and that's all we see as fans is just the Pacquiao clips is just little 10-second clips or 5-second clips him jogging with a cool team of cool fighters and we don't see real clips . The Tyson one went a step further . They showed him sparring and landing clean shots on a real boxer that we actually know and we're like , wait , no , I don't think that really happened , but whatever , based on what we know , I heard from a friend of mine that barrios has been having problems in sparring . Uh , it doesn't matter to me . It father . Time is undefeated . I don't care how much of a legend you are , mario barrios is a champion . He , he does beat real fighters , no matter how close it is . This is going to be like a sparring match and a one-sided affair . Mario barrios decision yeah or t .

Speaker 1

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's a stoppage bro yeah , like , and it's only because of pacquiao's age , and again , he was old , his last fight four years ago exactly . But I will say this one of one of pacquiao's best wins , I think and I'll argue with people about this and it can go either way was Keith Thurman because of his age . He was amazing and how he did that , how he won , say what you want . Where Keith Thurman was at , how Pacquiao won that fight was crazy .

Speaker 3

I'm going with Pacquiao . I'm going to bet on Pacquiao as a fan .

Speaker 1

I'm going with .

Speaker 3

Pacquiao . I'm going with the old Pacquiao . His legs never leave . He got the legs still .

Speaker 1

He trained with all them young motherfuckers bro . Really , he doesn't , he doesn't . Inactivity is a real thing , bro , and inactivity when you're in your 40s is a real thing , and he's closer to 50 than 40 .

Speaker 3

Exactly , he's closer to 50 than 40 . Exactly , he's still got a chance .

Speaker 2

He's Beehive's age when Beehive beat Pascal .

Speaker 1

Willie , I'm not coming at you , but do you go down the stairs like you used to ? No , no , that's it . Oh my God , and we're nobody .

Speaker 3

But he's got legs . Though I don't have no legs , I got legs like Morel , willie , willie , willie . You see , morel legs , those are just chicken legs .

Speaker 2

Here's my thing , though If Pacquiao wins and I hate to say this , because y'all know I love Barrios , but that's honestly the best possible outcome , because if he wins , he's going to retire , he's going to vacate that shit , and then the WBC belt is up for grabs , and then PBC can't hold it hostage and keep doing this shit , because look at Barrios' last , I think . Then he bought Maidana and Abel Ramos , and it's like nobody wanted that shit .

Speaker 1

I'm digging really deep here and I'm getting a little deep , but I think what PBC is doing is oh shit , netflix and Jake Paul are bringing these big legends back . Turk alice chic has all the money to bring whoever the fuck he wants back . He's like oh shit , who do we got pacquiao will come

Jesse Rodriguez Fight Breakdown

Speaker 1

pacquiao , and I think it's , it's part of this . It's actually the wall bro .

Speaker 1

yeah , it's the bad part of the monopoly , but but that being said , whatever , hey , I'm rooting for Pacquiao . I'm going to throw some money on Pacquiao to make it fun . I'm excited to see him . Yeah , I'm going to throw some money on him to make it fun . I'll have the two TVs going and we might have a dual podcast crowd here , which would be cool .

Speaker 3

We might record live . Yeah , we might have to go live for that .

Speaker 2

Real for that Zoo Fundora . Oh shit , shit , shit . I forgot about that . We've been so deep .

Speaker 1

That's the best fight on the card . Yeah , yeah , yeah , that is a great fight .

Speaker 3

Hopefully there's no cuts .

Speaker 1

If Zoo correct me if I'm wrong , Zou fought after the Fundora fight , right ?

Speaker 2

Twice .

Speaker 1

Yeah , all right , all right , that's it , that's it , that's it , that's it . That's all I needed . Again , I didn't do research on this because we went to the fights last night .

Speaker 2

Well , he got knocked out by the Bokrum guy in like three he got mollywhopped by that Bokrum guy in like three rounds , which is make yeah , and he did okay versus joey spencer .

Speaker 1

But but I will say this fundora is going to come and he's going to come to crack and I know zoo , before the cut , was landing hard shots on fundora , who has a suspect chin right and he has been knocked down . That tree has been chopped . But also , uh , when you get knocked down , like fundora got knocked down and you're gonna get hit by , I mean like zoo got knocked down and you're gonna get get hit by , I mean like zoo got knocked down and you're going to get hit by Fandora , I think Fandora is going to take this Cause . Fandora knocked out the last guy he bought too .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , yep , and , and Fandora , fandora is coming , no matter what . Whether he gets knocked down or not , you , he's only getting better and I will say this , though I'm not trying to give Zoo no chance Prior to the cut , and even with the cut , blinded Zoo was landing hard shots and Zoo does have real power . But once Zoo gets clipped after getting knocked down , like that which he is going to get by Fundora , it's not going to end well for him in my opinion , zoo was so hyped that's the fucked up part .

Speaker 3

He was so hyped . Before Fandora he was hyped I forgot what Fighter was He'd been hyped for a minute .

Speaker 1

Yeah , Zoo's real , but I can't take anything away from Zoo man . Nobody wants to fight Fandora .

Speaker 3

Nobody wants to fight Fandora . Remember Eric Spencer was trying to put himself in there he didn't fight nobody . He didn't fight neither one of them . He just put himself in the middle of the Vandora and all that Just come inside the ring like he was going to fight somebody .

Speaker 2

I'm so glad that shit didn't happen . That's PBC , though , bro . That's PBC , yeah .

Speaker 3

I know when is Spence at .

Speaker 1

They were there . Al Heyman's people were there at the ring three fight too . You're going to see some shit . It's one thing I noticed and we'll close out . Let's get our prediction for Zufandor , because that is a really good fight . I think Punch wanted to elaborate on that . Yeah , go ahead . Go off a little bit on your take on Zufandor .

Speaker 2

Oh , no , no , I just wanted to talk about it . I honestly don't know , bro , because everything you said I have so many questions about it because I know Su can beat Zufandor . I know he can .

Speaker 1

Now Can he now , Based off what he's been through ?

Speaker 2

But my whole thing is that , because what I hate what fighters do is when they lose a fight , they're like oh , I only lost to this guy because of this one thing . In this case , it's the cut If he goes in and tries to fight the exact same way , or if he tries to do a style that's not his style , trying to be different .

Speaker 1

I don't know . My thing is , the only thing is like , yes , you're right , um , but if , if fundora , once , once he gets , he's good , you're gonna get cracked by fundora , like you're gonna have to take hits by fundora and once that , once that brain gets jogged one more time after what he's been through , like they should have rematched immediately , but once that brain gets jogged that one more time , that's all she wrote for for zoo , man well errol spence fucked up that immediate rematch because he was supposed to fight spence next and then it got canceled .

Speaker 1

So fundora went and fought bakram yeah , it's true , but I'm just saying that in regards to this fight itself , based off what , what we know , I just I see Zoo having early , early success and then he's going to get hit by that long fucking beanstalk like he did last fight , and now it's all those horror story . Memories are going to come back .

Speaker 2

And Zoo doesn't hurt him early . I don't even mean knock him out , but if he doesn't hurt him early he's not going mean knock him out , but if he doesn't hurt him early he's not going to win . But even that the first five rounds , the first five . He landed a good shot against Fandora in that first fight . He didn't hurt him .

Speaker 1

He has to hurt him . You know what I mean . He's got to drop him or rock him , get his legs shaking . Yeah , like disable . A a hand , fundora's a dog , fundora's an avalanche that keeps falling down .

Speaker 3

That's the whole point . He throws a lot of punches too .

Speaker 1

In close . What's your pick ?

Speaker 2

I don't know . This is a fight I can't pick because I honestly don't know .

Speaker 1

I'm going Fundora KO TKO . I'm just going Fundora KO TKO . Based off what I know . I think he's in some trouble early

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Speaker 1

, but he is tough as shit . Fandora , he's been knocked down , got up and did his thing .

Speaker 2

It's not that I see ways both of them can win , as dumb as it sounds . I see ways both of them can lose , if that makes any sense .

Speaker 3

What do you got Willie ?

Speaker 1

I think this is gonna be the first 12 round fight for them they're going 12 rounds .

Speaker 3

This fight .

Speaker 1

This is it's gonna go 12 uh , in closing slide , tendencies 87 says fandora is anonymously . Uh , it's that . He's got the most insane reach ever , but he fights on the inside . Yes , you're right , I agree , tim zoo can win , but he to be himself . I hope he's learned from his past . I think he did learn from his past , but once you get that brain rattled , all those demons come back from the depths .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you can say that about both of them to be honest .

Speaker 1

Yes , true , true . But I just feel like recently Zoo had a real reality check . You know , that's all . Yeah , he lost real bad bro . Yeah , Bad dad . But hey , we got to close out the show . We are almost three hours in bro .

Speaker 1

Yeah , we could have made it to Atlantic City , banged a hooker and made it back . God damn Yo Punch . Always a pleasure . Thank you guys for having me . Me and Punch literally said yeah , we got to try to keep it under hour Boom , three hours here . We are All good , though who cares ? We had great interactions . Hopefully we keep that going for anyone still listening .

Speaker 3

This was a fucking fantastic live man .

Speaker 1

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Speaker 3

Later , oh man . Yo punch later , bro Wait .

Speaker 1

Yeah , my bad guys , don't talk yet . It's not your fault , god damn it . End stream .