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Pound-for-Pound Poker: Who's Bluffing at the Vegas Megafight? (All Things Canelo/Crawford)
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The boxing world holds its collective breath as Canelo Alvarez and Terence Crawford prepare for a clash that defies conventional wisdom. Crawford, daring to jump two weight classes, faces perhaps the ultimate test against boxing's most reliable chin and proven power puncher.
What makes this matchup fascinating isn't just the stark contrast in natural size, but the chess match of styles that will unfold. Crawford, technically brilliant and adaptable, must navigate a puzzle he's never encountered: a bigger opponent he likely can't hurt. Meanwhile, Canelo brings the immovable object of his physical presence, but faces a level of footwork and counter-punching brilliance that could frustrate his methodical approach.
The debate among boxing experts reveals the fight's intriguing complexity. Most see two clear paths: Crawford winning through masterful point-scoring and movement, or Canelo gradually imposing his will as the fight progresses into the later rounds. The telling moment may come when Crawford lands his first clean shots – if they don't visibly affect Canelo, the dynamic shifts dramatically. As one fighter put it, "Crawford will try to see where Canelo's power is at, then box accordingly."
Beyond the main event, the undercard delivers its own compelling narratives. Callum Walsh brings his exceptional Irish fighting spirit against Fernando Vargas Jr.'s famous family pedigree in what could be a breakthrough moment for both fighters. The Christian Mbilli vs. Lester Martinez clash further showcases the card's international flavor and potential for breakthrough performances.
Whether you favor Crawford's technical brilliance or Canelo's proven power, September 13th promises to answer one of boxing's eternal questions: can exceptional skill overcome natural physical advantages? Join us for what might be the defining fight of this generation.
Episode Introduction
Speaker 1It's time for the main event .
Speaker 2It's the Sparring Podcast .
Speaker 1Oh , it's a knockout . I'm shorty like mine , shorty like mine .
Speaker 3Yo , that is the voice of Willie . He's back in the flesh . Back in the flesh Like mine . We are live , we love . Oh , we are . I think we're live . Let me check the insta . This is so I . I have so many technical difficulties going on . Uh , people might pop in , people might not . We're changing up the platform a little bit . Can you hear me , willie ?
Speaker 3yeah well , I hear you too . Yeah , I missed your voice , yo . Um . Uh , we are gonna start doing the live stream on monday nights because of football . That's what I posted . Please pop in the last live stream . I'm gonna apologize , um , I did six straight hours yo , you was wild and that was funny .
Speaker 3It was fun I know , but I just deleted the video . I didn't post it because I was so drunk . That is my fault . That won't happen again , I promise , but it was all right . It was kind of fun . Oh shit , yeah , sorry , a little late , technical difficulties , as fucking usual . I don't have a producer , I have nothing . This is all me , myself and I , and sometimes Willie . Wow , sometimes it's crazy . Yeah , we live , yeah , we are .
Speaker 1All right , going forward . I meant to tag YouTube .
Speaker 3Oh , whatever , here we are . This is the Canelo Alvarez Terrence Crawford show , though that's basically all we're going to talk about . Rodolfo from last time Latino Heat he was with us . He's going to pop in as well . Punchlines might pop in . That's going to be the new thing , willie . We're just going to have people popping in , popping out . My drunk ass had two pros on talking to us . I barely remember the convo . Flats friend of the show and Lorenzo Medina were both on . Lorenzo had some words for Willie , I didn't know .
Speaker 3Willie was liking the knockout photos man . Yo wait , I had no idea this guy , but that was funny , no idea .
Speaker 1I would never even saw it . I just want to Yo . I didn't even know I liked this shit . I don't remember that shit . You know how you just like shit and there's somebody in it .
Speaker 3You did some shit one time too . I never said anything to you . I'm not going to name names , but a friend of ours , Pro Boxer , got in some trouble and you kept reposting the trouble . Somebody got in trouble .
Speaker 1Long Island guy . Long Island , he got in trouble .
Speaker 3Yeah , oh , punchlines is in . Hold on . Let me add to the page what up , punch Pissing , oh shades .
Speaker 1Yeah . I'm supposed to have shades ?
Speaker 3Huh , what did you say ? I'll tell you off air , willie , nothing . Willie and I were having a conversation about last . So when I was talking about last show , when I got a little crazy drunk it was fun , though I mean , from what I remember , and Lorenzo Medina popped in and I didn't expect this or whatever . He's like yo , willie , I'm mad at you , or something . He's like you liked the fucking photo of me getting knocked out .
Speaker 1Yo punch , I can't even like photos . I didn't even say nothing . That shit was funny . I don't know what I did , honestly , to be honest .
Speaker 3I didn't know that was going to .
Speaker 1I didn't think that was going to do anything . But I didn't know that was going to . I didn't think that was going to do anything , like I didn't think somebody was going to catch filming because I liked the video .
Speaker 3Yo yo , that's something we got over , though too Like . I know , I know punch knows , but punch just doesn't care .
Speaker 1I'll laugh at my pain all the time If y'all see a video of me on the internet .
Speaker 3I'll be laughing .
Speaker 1I'm so damn stupid I didn't understand . Well , I didn't know . Now I know we close with these people , but I didn't Like I'm just he didn't care , care . No , he didn't care , but he just let me know . But I'm like that's good on him , though he checked that . No , yeah , yeah , yeah , but I , oh man . This is crazy In general . Probably my name just popped up .
Speaker 3It does make you think , though , man , I know Punch doesn't care , he's a different breed but it does make you think sometimes , like god damn , they got feelings . But I'm not a fake person though .
Speaker 1No , no Me , neither Me , neither , no , that's what I'm saying . Well , he probably think I'm fake because of that . That's what it is .
Speaker 3But I'm not he . It was in the TCL shit . The TCL thing , yeah , it was bad . He was in a very bad place , but he's doing better now .
Speaker 1I'm like why the fuck he was there .
Speaker 3Just know this , and I don't think I'm pretty close with Lorenzo . We became pretty close . I'm actually going October I think it's October 12th or 13th a Sunday . He's fighting again at the Hard Rock . I'm going again , I just bought my tickets and everything . But just know that , dude , for his age and I'm not going to talk about what's going on personally he's going through some shit that nobody in this room where he is that should be going through or can go through and he's going to come out on top and again , I'm not going to get into details , that's his business , but he's going through some real , real , personal shit and I wish him the best Because at 20 years old , we see him he's like this giant man , right ? This giant hairy creature .
Speaker 4I didn't know he was that young .
Speaker 3Yeah , he's 20 , bro , like it's crazy . So he's going through some real shit . And dude , we talked about it on the show the movement he has for a heavyweight . If he stays on track he will be something . He's a smaller heavyweight . But you look at Moses Atama , the movement , or even Usyk , a smaller heavyweight . When you have movement and footwork like that , sky's the limit . So props to him . But enough about him , let's just get right into it . I have a fantasy draft at 8.30 . If the chat is going crazy , I forgot about it . If the chat is going good , I'm going to just do it from my phone .
Speaker 1You got a professional right with you right now . I know I do .
Speaker 3I do . You're going to help me Punch if he's here , but if not , if the chat is going crazy good , I'm going to do the fantasy draft pop out and then pop back in , I guess , Because I know I blacked out , but I had a lot of fun . Man , I streamed for five and a half six hours . That was crazy , dude . I looked , I drank a whole bottle of tequila .
Speaker 3I don't know what what was really being said . Oh yeah , I do , but it's all right . Um yeah , here we are , though canelo alvarez , terrence crawford . I do want to get some clips chopped up , but this is going to be the new uh , the new way I do things . Here . We're going to talk like 30 minutes to an hour of like real boxing stuff . Just get to the points .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 3And then we'll do a free for all people popping in .
Speaker 1Whatever people go on YouTube , they don't want to see an hour , two hours on a motherfucking video .
Speaker 3I will say , though , the most hits we get are from the radio show , and I didn't post the last one , it was too messy , so for me anyway , but I do like chopping the clips up and stuff , so I want your take Punch and this is it . This is it . It's the week before next week football starts .
Speaker 1I'm having actually people over this week , yeah , this week Sunday yeah , so we're going to do the preview of Crawford Canelo right now .
Speaker 3All things Canelo , crawford Punch . You go first . What's your take , what do you think is going to happen ? And , yeah , go ahead .
Speaker 4No , Hold on . I said what's your take on the Maho stream of Black ?
Speaker 1Wow , damn . He always cancels .
Speaker 3I think he thinks the stream is going to go out .
Speaker 1I didn't know Black Friday came early .
Speaker 3Did that happen ?
Speaker 1Black Lives Matter .
Speaker 3Yo , punch , I'm going to remove you , just pop back in . You got the Black Lives . Matters Willie what is your take ? What is your take , willie , for real , give me an honest opinion . I know you're going for Crawford .
Speaker 1I'm going for Crawford , but I'm scared for Crawford . That one punch man , that fucking telegraph . You know that hook for Crawford , but I'm scared for Crawford . That one punch man , that fucking telegraph . You know that hook , that Canelo have that hook where he look like it's going to the body and then comes up top .
Speaker 1Yeah , the same shit . Oh man , I'm scared for that . That's the same hit , that drop . What's ? Mccullough , belanga ? And I hope Crawford don't get touched up because this is going to be crazy . But you know , triple G said he don't punch as hard as he . I think . So I don't know , maybe , but Crawford , who don't punch as hard as you think ? Canelo , yeah , canelo , that's what Triple G said and he's going with Crawford . Punch , you're back , willie , said Willie , just repeat yourself real quick Crawford , man , I'm going with Crawford . I'm not going to change up Everybody , just keep on persuading me . Then I seen the Boots thing . That's a great sparring guy to have that whole team dude .
Speaker 1It's not fair , because who the fuck
Canelo vs Crawford Predictions
Speaker 1is Crawford going to get the mimic ?
Speaker 3Oh my God , punch , your blacked out again . Punch is so vicious on social media . They hacked his phone Insane .
Speaker 4It's got to be because of what I posted on my story .
Speaker 3Yeah , we're not going to get into that , but we're just friends . You know we keep things boxing here . You know you can pop back in if you want . Try again , it's all good . Can you not hear me ? No , I can hear you . Your screen is just pitch black . I mean , yeah , just keep talking then . You can't see me at all . Nah , total black screen .
Speaker 4What happens if I do this ?
Speaker 3Nope , nope Still . I hear like birds chirping .
Speaker 4I don't fucking know . People don't need to see me anyway , bro .
Speaker 3All right , I'm just saying you can hear us though .
Speaker 3Right , yeah , for sure , okay , yeah . So , that being said , I agree with you , willie , in a sense . Does Crawford have the tools ? Yes , but there's one major thing that everyone's missing , and I like what Crawford's saying . He's like everyone keeps asking him if he's going to knock him out . You're going to go for the knockout , and he's like , if it's there , I'll take it , but I'm going to go in there to box . I'm going in there to outbox him about what he's saying , which I really really like .
Speaker 3But Crawford does really really good when he gets his opponent hurt . Before he gets him hurt , it's always a close fight , and then he does what he does and gets him hurt , and I'm not including Spence , because he got Spence out of it , but Porter , until Porter got hurt , porter was in that fight , right . And then you look at recently , when he moved up Madrimov , he didn't hurt , hurt him , and it was a really close fight . And that's madrimov . You know what I'm saying . And now we got canelo freaking alvarez and , and I don't think he has enough to hurt him . There's there's no way he's moving up in weight and is going to hurt him . He's gonna have to outpoint him , the only way crawford wins here . For me is out point , and canelo doesn't throw .
Speaker 3I think that's exactly how it's going to go , but I don't think . I think Crawford's going to get frustrated when he can't hurt him and shit gets fired back Nah .
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying . He's so composed , bro , I don't think that's even a possibility for him to even he is composed , but His mental is so strong I don't think that he would stick to the game plan .
Speaker 3He's only won fights when his opponents are hurt , and I'm not taking anything away from him . He hurts everybody he's faced , except the really really close fights . Even the Elgouskis whatever the hell that guy's name was that kind of knocked him down or whatever . Then he got up and hurt the shit out of him , got him out of there .
Speaker 1So to me you're— I'm scared for Crawford , but it's either going to go two ways . Either going to go two ways , canelo by knockout or Crawford by points . I don't think Canelo can win by points . Canelo don't throw as much as he used to . I agree with that I don't think that's going to happen . If he can last , it's going to be .
Speaker 3From the training videos , canelo looks slower . Here's another thing . Who do you think is older ? I know Crawford is older . They both have slowed down , in my opinion , as of late . You know what I mean .
Speaker 1But um , crawford's style is not slowed down like his style is made for , like this type of fight . I'm just saying , dude and counter punching . They both counter punch . Good though he moved up in weight and couldn't hurt .
Speaker 3He's moving up a weight again . I don't think he's gonna aim to hurt him , though yeah , if he out points or whatever , but I don't see him not fighting , so it's going to be a fight .
Speaker 1I didn't believe the hype I didn't believe the hype .
Speaker 3I'm actually hyped now because of the unknown . You know what ?
Speaker 1it is . He's . It's gonna the first . The first couple of rounds are gonna be dull . It's gonna be dull and he's gonna try to see where canelo power is he ? He probably going to sit there Watch . He probably going to sit there and try to see where his power is at .
Speaker 3Here's my take . Here's my final take . I think Canelo is going to be like a punching bag for Crawford the first half of the fight and then when Crawford realizes I can't hurt this guy or get this guy out of here , here comes Canelo and I think Canelo is going to win in the second half of the fight and possibly knock him down , maybe once twice . Maybe Crawford will last and do his thing to finish , but I think it's going to be close in that regard and I think they're going to edge Canelo .
Speaker 3I think they're going to edge Canelo .
Speaker 1No knockdowns Punch . Can you hear us ?
Speaker 3Punch .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 3My laptop .
Speaker 4Okay , willie , you give me your final thought , I'll give my yeah he set up my laptop Okay , okay , but yeah .
Speaker 3So , willie , you give me your final thought , I'll give my final thought .
Speaker 1Okay , I'll give my final thought . My final thought is Krof is , I think , well , shkoltz is going to try to take his punches early . He's going to see where his power at , he's going to outbox him and he's going to win by decision . That's all it's going to be . I don't think it's not going to be nothing crazy . It's going to be a great fight . This fight is literally history . I don't know if it's going to be the best fight . It depends which fighter comes out , because he got this training . I was hearing that Canelo was trying to be mad careful with boots so he won't get touched up with boots and shit . So it's like you know , if you're not getting that real sparring , what do ?
Speaker 3you ? Yeah , but I think you know , dude , he's the the mexican sparring and canelo's been through them all . They're banging in there , that's just that's just here so yeah you see what virgin ortiz jr said virgin ortiz jr said he sparred him and he's like yo , I hit Canelo with my best shot , my hardest shot , and he went that's it .
Speaker 1No , I don't think Crawford's going to hurt him .
Speaker 3No , I don't think so either . So what do you think ? So my final thought on this whole thing is what I just said . I mean , I think it's going to be Canelo points Back half of the fight . Canelo's going to come on strong and Crawford's going to be like , damn , I can't hurt this guy and he's . It'll be close , there'll be close rounds , but I do think in the back half of the fight , when Canelo's still there and Crawford's giving him everything he got , Because it is Crawford's going to be on his back foot a lot .
Speaker 1I understand that , that he might get tired , but you know Canelo would like to walk him down .
Speaker 3Just remember , canelo moved up to 175 and took Bivel and I know Bivel's not like a hard point , he was taking shots from Bivel and just eating it . Crawford , say what you want , yes , they're around , they look like they're the same size and stuff and they are height-wise and length-wise , but Canelo's that big where if you push Canelo he's not going anywhere . He's big from the waist down , no more . You know what I'm saying . His leg .
Speaker 1I understand he's an immovable object . This is so . What do you think ? Is it 50-50 or 60-40 ?
Speaker 3I'd say 60-40 .
Speaker 1Punches back you there .
Speaker 3He almost here , but I see Punch now I can't hear him .
Speaker 3Yo , everyone's having technical difficulties today because I was all fucked up . Yo , all right , can you hear me ? Yeah , now we're good . Punch is inside . The lighting actually looks good Like the sun setting on . Punch . I like this . Yeah , this is nice . Yeah , so , willie , could I ask you something ? Willie , I don't want to bring up fucking race and shit again , but this is what the internet and stuff does . What was your take on the whole fucking ? They're like oh , what's his name ? Switch sides .
Speaker 1I wanted to make a video on that . I didn't do it .
Speaker 3yet what's his name ? Switch Sides .
Speaker 1I wanted to make a video on that I didn't do it yet , and it's Switch Sides . I'm going to make a video on it . I'm going to make a video on it , but what was your take on that ? I was like come on , will you shut up ? No , I was being funny , though , because you know , everything is a meme . It's a joke anyway . So I was just like oh man , this guy we trying to prove on black and brown relationships , but damn , this is you know it's funny , though white people like white fans .
Speaker 4We get called racist a lot if we root for a white fighter .
Speaker 3It's like , oh , you just like him because he's white , because you're racist , and then they fight over shit like that , yeah but that's the way , that's the way it is in sports , though , like like I think a few rappers came out for tank and they're like we love tank because he looks like us , like he dresses , like us .
Speaker 1You know what I mean . I said that I was at a party , at a baby shower , this weekend . I was like yeah , I told them I was joking around , though . I was like y'all going for Crawford , y'all ain't black .
Speaker 4I don't think it's a problem to go for somebody because they look like you . I think it's a problem to go against somebody because they don't . Yeah , yeah , I think people blur those lines . You know what I'm saying .
Speaker 3That's life , though , man , and everything but a lot of people is going for Canelo .
Speaker 1Black or Spanish , it doesn't even matter . The smart fans that know what they know . Smart , yeah , y'all ain't going to be smart when the results come in .
Speaker 3What's your take Punch ? How do you see the fight playing out ? Take punch , how do you see the fight playing out ? We talked about both , both what we see . I said I think , uh , canelo's gonna lose rounds in the beginning and crawford's gonna be like , damn this , I can't hurt this guy because , like I said , crawford if you look at crawford's fights , he only really wins by hurting his opponents . You know what I'm saying . Once you get his opponents hurt , before that it's a close fight . You could even say benavidez was close before he knocked his ass out . I don't think he's going to be able to hurt Canelo at any time . I think he'll win rounds , but I don't think he's going to be able to hurt him . And then in the back half of the fight , canelo's going to be like I got to let my hands go as usual , and yeah , that's me . What do you got ?
Speaker 4I mean , it's two great fighters like . That's why everybody's so excited about it , right like anybody who tries to hate on either one of them .
Speaker 4No , no I'm not , I don't think either one of you are , but I'm just saying , like , in this sport , we know , people are , yeah , um , but I also think weight classes do exist for a reason , as they , as we say , every time a fight like this happens when people go up multiple weight classes , whether it be jermell Charlo when he fought Canelo , or Mikey Garcia versus Errol , you know IE , etc . And not just that , but you're like going up in weight to fight a really good fighter at that weight and even though Canelo ain't at his best , no more , or isn't the fighter who became undisputed like he's obviously slowed down , he's obviously lost a little bit of something because the wins aren't as dramatic as they were and they're , when they're against , I think , lesser competition than guys that he used to like beat the brakes out yeah but I think it's really hard for you to count out a fighter as great as terence cropper .
Speaker 4It really is and it's like I got . That's always in the back of my mind when I think about this fight . But the guy also in the reality of it Crawford's only had two fights in the last 25 months . We say that Canelo looked bad against Erlanga or Skoll or whomever , but both those fights have happened since Bud even fought last right Yep , and Bud didn't look great in his last fight .
Speaker 3And that was what sealed the deal for me on the Canelo . And then it hit me during that Madrimov fight . Well , previewing it right now , I was like yo , bud is really , really good and I'm like great , fucking , all-time great , and I'm not taking anything away from him , but he only wins in emphatic fashion when he hurts his opponents . You know what I'm saying . If he doesn't hurt you , it's a very close fight and some argue , madrimal won that so ?
Speaker 1do you think , so , do y'all think right , if he win by decision , right who ?
Speaker 4he'd have to fight , he'd have to fight .
Speaker 1Damn , you're perfectly yeah but I'm just saying , if he do , what are y'all gonna say ?
Speaker 4I mean I . You have to give him his credit . You can't like you , you have to .
Speaker 3That's why I even preceded this with like I can never count out a fighter as great as crawford , the only shot he has to to win , really , in my opinion , is is by a clean decision , because I I really feel that he's gonna , he can outbox canelo . But but the thing is in like the sixth , seventh , eighth round , when canelo's not hurt , and here comes canelo can crawford , withstand the two weight class jump and that immovable object , the best chin in boxing right now . You know what I'm saying like and I don't know if he can .
Speaker 4People are going to try to say it's an old , slowed-down version of Canelo . If Bud wins , hypothetically if Bud wins , they're going to say that . They're going to say it in a way to discredit him . And he's older , though that's the crazy part he is older , but like , if you have a car from 2013 , it could still have less mileage on it than a car from 2017 . You know what I'm saying ? Yeah , to make that analogy , he's older in terms of calendar . Canelo's definitely got way more on the odometer .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's a fact . Yeah , he's definitely got way more on the odometer .
Speaker 4Yeah , that's a fact . But either way , because the reality is it is a slowed down , older version of canelo , that bud would be hypothetically still an impressive accomplishment because of the weight class . It's not like this is benavidez beating canelo , you know what I'm saying .
Speaker 3Yeah , speaking of benavidez , though , let me , let me ask you this do you think , do you think , benavidez stops canelo ?
Speaker 4I , I have , I have for like the last yeah , year and a half two years .
Speaker 3Do you think benavidez ? I think benavidez can be . It's hard to stop canelo . To me it's just that it's like damn near impossible . And I know it's a different type of power from benavidez . But to me , when , when you go the distance with triple g , twice in triple g's prime you know what I'm saying like , oh , you're really hard to stop because and then again it is a different style of power like his is more of like a machine gun , where , where triple g is a , a cannon with a few machine guns .
Speaker 4We saw daryl fucking hurt fucking , I don't know yeah I think he could stop him , very similar to the way that bud stops spence .
Speaker 3Like he may not be out , he may not have to beat a cow , but if he's taken punishment , he just but my thing I was going with that is like there's people on the internet that I've read and I don't even know if they're real people , but that that say benavides , benavides , canidez won't stop Canelo , but they're saying Crawford will , and I'm like , all right , you guys need to stop .
Speaker 1I'm not even expecting . I'm rooting for Crawford and I'm not expecting him to stop him at all . I feel like he just turns up with his opponent , whoever it is . He just turns up to the moment .
Speaker 4man , yeah , because one of the points I was going to make is he's a slow starter . Notoriously Crawford is yeah , but he started very fast against Spence . So it's like , is he a slow starter when he's not ?
Speaker 3I think he knew that's what I'm saying . I think he knew he hit Spence with something like oh , I could hurt this guy , and then that's when he fucking let loose His confidence is crazy . I want to see how he comes out His competitive edge .
Speaker 1Wait , wait , wait , is it Vegas ?
Speaker 3Oh yeah .
Speaker 1Peanut going to my best place . Where are he sitting ? I don't know , probably nosebleed Bro 400 . 450 for nosebleed ? Yeah , he's going , though they're going to be there , my man's in all of them .
Speaker 3Good for him , man . Canelo's a slow starter too , though to be honest , yeah , he is . That's what I'm saying . I think Crawford knows . I don't think Crawford feels in his heart of hearts he can hurt Canelo . I think he's smarter than that , and he kind of alluded to it with what he said recently , where he was like I'm not going for the knockout , like if I get the knockout , I get the knockout . I'm going in there to win . I'm going in there to win .
Speaker 4But he's kind of always been like that , like he doesn't go for a knockout or just to win .
Speaker 3If you look back , though , a lot of not all , but a lot of his fights were versus big names , the bigger names . They were really close until he had them hurt , and that's my only real that , and the weight obviously . And I just feel in the back half of this fight , when Canelo's still there and kind of like Madrimov , the Madrimov fight , he's like like what is going on here , and then here comes , here comes those hooks from canelo , and the jab is still there . I I just feel I don't know , I I'm trying to picture this .
Speaker 3I feel like when the best way I could compare it to and it is like the caleb plant fight , because caleb was doing really good and and even you could say who's that guy ? From britain , the a-hole where canelo broke his eye socket , saunders , yeah , saunders . He was also doing decent . And then it was doing well in the middle rounds , yeah , and then it was like wait a minute . Oh my god , this immovable object is still coming forward at me with that head movement and those looping hard shots are yeah , but canelo hasn't looked like that since that fight .
Speaker 4honestly , the Caleb Plant fight was the last fight where he looked like Canelo , because then he went up and fought Bavole and got , in my opinion , his ass beat .
Speaker 3Yeah , he did , I agree .
Speaker 4And then the third Triple G fight was right after that , where he looked like the old Canelo for about five or six rounds In Triple G's defense .
Speaker 3that was a very , very old Triple G .
Speaker 4Yeah , and Canelo still got tired and slowed down in the second half of that fight and honestly , every other fight like . He's not really a combo puncher anymore . I know he's really not Exactly that's his biggest issue .
Speaker 1The point is Deja Fog on Crowford , the win by . He just got to withstand the storm .
Speaker 3You know what I'm saying'm saying here's the thing when he fought charlo , he did , he threw a lot more combos , yeah ,
Weight Class Dynamics and Fighter Strategies
Speaker 3and like I'd have to put that out this is gonna sound crazy and and I I really feel like that the latino fighters that he didn't get out of there , like I'm thinking berlanga and um munguia . He did right , he stopped munguia no , he just dropped him .
Speaker 3He just dropped , yeah , yeah , he hasn't knocked out anybody but I feel like he could have and just decided not to you know , yeah , he definitely buried munguia . Yeah , and definitely berlanga . He carried berlanga , so I think he's coming for crawford .
Speaker 4Just because of he's black , he's got to be careful , though , like I don't know , I don't know , I still I don't think he's dumb . I don't think he's dumb , I don't think he's reckless . But here's something I always bring up when these types of fights happen , because they kind of go overlooked . Right and one reason I don't like them you're not just fighting somebody bigger than you're used to fighting . You're not just fighting somebody who's bigger than you , who hits harder than you're used to fighting . You're not just fighting somebody who's bigger than you , who hits harder than you , who should have more punch resistance than what you're used to . Going against your body isn't used to carrying the weight . You're going to be fighting it , yeah , because you've never done it . That's a that .
Speaker 3That's a legitimate thing and and he said , he said you know they're , they're slower at the higher weights and I was like , yeah , but you're moving up in weight , you're also going to be a little , a tad bit slower . You know they're slower at the higher weights and I was like , yeah , but you're moving up in weight , you're also going to be a tad bit slower . You know what I'm saying .
Speaker 4Yeah .
Speaker 3It depends how you put it , on what up , mrfresh87? . He says hello from Boxard Cali , boxnard Cali , what ?
Speaker 1up man . What up Cali Cali in the building .
Speaker 4My boy lives out out there . He's stationed out there . Actually , shout out to cali for real .
Speaker 3Uh , I'm I again . I wasn't excited for this . The hype they are promoting it very like . I don't understand the fights that don't need promotion . They promote the fuck out of the fights that need promotion in the mainstream media . They don't like this fight would have sold no matter what , and I see it everywhere . I see it all over the fucking place . I I'll never . I don't know where their heads are at . I don't think they speak to the public , much like whoever's in charge of promotions of these boxing events .
Speaker 1Yeah , this shit is like around the corner . It's like mediocre .
Speaker 3No , no , I think it's promoted . Well , I'm seeing it everywhere , man . I mean , a lot of people know it but I feel like I don't see it .
Speaker 1You know , we're on social media like every day .
Speaker 4I watched a UFC fight and they actually showed a preview for it on the UFC broadcast . Oh , that's cool , Because Dana White's involved . Yeah , but that's like a good thing to see .
Speaker 3That's a great thing to see , I hope , going forward this weird rivalry like UFC fans .
Speaker 4They put it on during football games too , not the coming off . They have no . It on during football games too , not to cut you off .
Speaker 1They have no , no , you're good . They had the ufc like um . The ufc fans is really talking about it too .
Speaker 4They asking me at parties and shit what you think well someone yeah , I have dudes in my fantasy league like like , who do you ?
Speaker 3think is gonna win . Yo , latino . He is about to enter the chat . Latino . What up ? Yo , yo , what up ? Can you hear me going on ? Yeah , I hear you . We were just talking Perfect timing . This is going to be a little shorter show . I got to get off here around like 8.20 , 8.25 . If you're around later , latino , I'll pop back on . We can stream you two punch . I know Willie's got to sleep tomorrow .
Speaker 1It's a busy day for him .
Speaker 3It's a just gave our takes on what we think's gonna . Well , fine , all right , I'm gonna do a little round table , real quick . Final thought how does the fight end ? I'm gonna go first . I think canelo points with a knockdown . Possibly second half of the fight he comes on . We're talking canelo crawford willie , what's your final take ?
Speaker 1but bob points in the beginning I think he's gonna try to take his punches , see where he's at , and then it's going to be a boxing fanatic after that . You know what I'm saying ? Crawford , I hope he don't get dropped by one of those hooks . That so you're going , crawford points . If he don't get dropped by one of those hooks that he comes up like look like it's going to the body , come up top . I hope he don't get hit with one of those .
Speaker 3I just want to say something . Let's not forget what Canelo did to that white dude's arm when he was blocking .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , Canelo loved punching arms .
Speaker 4Yeah , but that was a 6'3 super middleweight . That ain't going to be somebody stout like fucking Bud .
Speaker 1Canelo knocks him out in the night Bud style . That's crazy .
Speaker 3Punch . Final thought on who you got , what you think is going to happen in that fight . Can't switch up .
Speaker 4I'm going to go . Canelo majority decision .
Speaker 1I don't think he knocks him down . I don't think he knocks Bud down .
Speaker 4I think people are going to say , even though he lost , people are going to give Bud respect and they're going to say they want to see him at 160 . Yeah , Wouldn't even be surprised if they try to make an immediate rematch .
Speaker 3Don't be surprised if they try to make an immediate rematch . Don't be surprised to do latino heat . This is willie . By the way , he missed us last time .
Speaker 1He missed the fucking drunk extravaganza , but he's seen me drunk enough .
Speaker 3So who do you got , though ? Who do you got ? Canelo , canelo , how ? What's your take on it ?
Speaker 2because you didn't get , I'm gonna I'm gonna see canelo by decision , because the moment crawford feels a solid punch from Canelo , he's going to box much smarter . He's going to go on his bike a little bit . He's going to be more of a counterpuncher . Now Canelo is flat-footed , so Crawford's going to take advantage of that . He's going to move around . He's going to pop some jabs , move around , a couple straight shots , move around .
Speaker 2But there's no way he's going to try to out-wrestle , out-muscle Canelo . There's no way , because Canelo's too big . He's not going to stay in the pocket with Canelo . Canelo's too big . So his best chance of winning is to try to just simply stick and move the entire fight . But if Crawford is not on point with his footwork , it will be game over for him . So that's why Crawford is you . He's a1 , he is like one of the best of our era right now . So that's why I believe that he will be on point for the entire . Of course , and he's he only moves so much . So that's why I say at some point Canelo is going to get his shots and Crawford's going to feel the pressure , but I don't think there's going to be any knockdowns either . I think he'll go to decision for Canelo just because of size . Well , he's the only one .
Speaker 1I have a question . I can't switch up right now .
Speaker 4That's fine , though , Like he's an underdog , yeah , like there's nothing wrong with him .
Speaker 3Let the record state . Let the record state . I'm rooting for the American .
Speaker 1I'm rooting for Crawford . I'm usually good with underdogs too .
Speaker 3Canelo beat Triple G a bunch of times . I'm rooting for my guy Kross Beat him twice .
Speaker 2Canelo did not beat .
Speaker 4Triple .
Speaker 3G . That's why I went like this In the first fight .
Speaker 4he didn't beat him yeah .
Speaker 3He didn't even draw with him .
Speaker 4What were you about to ask , though , punch ? Okay , let's say Canelo does hurt him right . Knowing Bud , knowing everything we know about him , does he mikey garcia and just try not to get stopped , or does he kel , brook it and say fuck it ?
Speaker 1he's going down .
Speaker 4He's going to try to win , no matter what I hope he don't , charlo .
Speaker 1No , I I think I think he's that .
Speaker 4That was the Mikey Garcia route , just with faster feet .
Speaker 3So something besides outside of boxing that I always hear about Crawford and that actually Shushu brought it up the last time we spoke to him was his competitive drive . Like he doesn't lose in cards . He makes it personal when they slap box or wrestle , like he was wrestling like Jarrell Miller and like tried to beat him and like almost did . Like he's his competitive drive . And then shu shu said he's like I don't play with him anymore . Like I don't play around with him , like , whether it's basketball , whatever , because he just don't stop like he has . He has this relentless . He's like a real , like tom brady-esque .
Speaker 1Fucking , I'm gonna win , I'm here to win and that's why I was what Punch said . When Punch said don't expect a rematch , exactly what's going on .
Speaker 4What he just said expect a rematch because probably going to want that another one . No , I said , don't be surprised if they try to make a rematch . Yeah , that's what I'm trying to say , and the money it's generating already .
Speaker 1He's going to want that rematch and if Canelo loses he's going to be likeatch , you know , and then canelo lose , he gonna buy . Yeah , take it again .
Speaker 3Yeah , good , do it we do it again real quick . This is , uh , four of the the thanks for playing power rangers , and we all have thanks for playing shirts on . And then there's our leader , our fearless leader over there , I don't have a thing yeah , you're the fearless , you're the one that initiate . You're like , you're like in the backdrop . You're the guy could run in the show in the back , do what I want , not as I do .
Speaker 4No , I fucking I went to the . I went to the gym today and I did the sauna for 45 minutes after my my lip and I was just fucking drenched I had . I still haven't showered . I had to change my shirt , though , because the last one was soaked .
Speaker 3I hate that we talked about so let's talk about the undercard a little bit . We already got our takes what the fuck is on the undercard the only fight again and we talked about it last show punch , but because I got so drunk and the chat got so crazy . To me anyway everything was spinning and then this guy , this guy freaking , uh brought in some enemies that were talking shit and it got a little weird , but it was fun though .
Speaker 4Do that again , dude . I don't think those were trolls . I don't think those were like actually mad people . They wouldn't , they wouldn't show their face .
Speaker 3I was like no , they wouldn't .
Speaker 1But they were up in my that's for sure you're not supposed to have them on live if they don't show their face no , they weren't .
Speaker 3Weren't on live , they didn't even come on at all , they were just messaging shit .
Speaker 4I've been having Haney fans come after me for the last three days .
Speaker 2They had Haney fans come after me earlier today .
Speaker 4Because of your comment on the thrill boxing thing . Same Same , exact shit . Because , haney ?
Speaker 3What'd you guys say ?
Speaker 4Well , haney said that he he's like I don't fight for money , I fight for legacy . I was like oh , that explains demanding a 75% split to fight Tricker . Everybody , all of his fans , come in my comments trying to justify it . I was like the man just said he don't fight for money . Why the fuck are y'all trying to justify the shit ?
Speaker 3Real quick , mr Fresh , in the chat he said obviously it's a little delayed , but he said Kalem will take down Fernando Vargas . That's the only undercard fight Punch and I talked about it last episode . It's the only real one with some buzz . And it's one of those fights where two guys coming up .
Speaker 4Dude , I don't know . I'm more excited about the Mbili Martinez fight .
Speaker 2Yeah , but that's another . I'm going to tell you guys something here , like what I didn't like about . I'm sure we're familiar with the page showbiz that dude . Now he was talking about Lester Martinez being Crawford sparring partner and all that . Now , what I didn't like was he , he , he . He basically categorized Lester Martinez as a Mexican . So I'm going to go on record Isn't he Argentinian ? No , he's from Guatemala , so that's Central American , which is right beside El Salvador , which is where I'm from . So I'll tell you , I knew Lester Martinez when we competed in a tournament in Honduras . That's where a bunch of fighters were there . So , but anyways , yeah , no , so he's from Guatemala , so that means he's Central American . So it's kind of annoying when you know guys like that , they'll go and they'll like generalize Latino fighters as Mexican .
Speaker 3So they'll go in and they'll generalize Latino fighters as Mexican Going forward on the show , since we're friends . Now I'm a cliche American white guy and I'm probably going to do that , so just bear with me . But I admit it . I admit when I'm wrong .
Speaker 4I thought he was Argentinian , bro .
Speaker 1I was way off , I'm crying Shout out to Salvadorian yeah , don't cut my head off .
Speaker 2Lester Martinez man . He's a force to be reckoned with .
Speaker 4He really is . That's why I'm excited about him .
Speaker 2He won't give Crispin and Billy problems .
Speaker 3And he's high risk , low reward and something tells me His professional debut .
Speaker 2he stopped Ricardo Mayorga , who was a former world champion . You know he's fought everybody , ricardo Mayorga , and Martinez just destroyed him in his debut he beat the shit out of Gangora too .
Speaker 1He's definitely good . He's back to being what Mbili got now .
Speaker 3I wish I had some connects . Based off what you just said , willie , I feel like Top Rank doesn't want Mbili to fight this fight . That's their powerhouse , that's their guy . They're at that weight , especially that they're fucking pushing . The last time this happened on a on a re-add card I don't know , is this re-add season , whatever on a on a card with the saudis , involving the saudis . But you know what do I salute ?
Speaker 4to him for taking it . Yeah , yeah , 100 . Because he could easily be like oh , I'm the avoided guy , nobody wants to fight me . And then if he goes around and does the same thing to this guy , he looks like a fucking hypocrite , which we see several fighters do .
Speaker 1And top rank fighters don't look mid on them their cards . But look what happened to Jared Anderson .
Speaker 3Yeah , that's what I'm about to say Top rank .
Speaker 1Here's the difference between Jared .
Speaker 4Anderson and Billy , though Jared Anderson was on record already saying that he wasn't in this for the love of the game . He was in it for money and that's it . People went after him for it and criticized him for it .
Speaker 2He's like the best heavyweight ever .
Speaker 3His head too . But that money talks , man . I don't know . Jusuf fought a fucking dumbass fight , yeah , and it's a heavyweight . When you get hit by a heavyweight , it changes . Even if you're a heavyweight one shot changes everything . We were talking Canelo Crawford , but a heavyweight changes the whole trajectory .
Speaker 4And he got caught doing the same exact thing he'd been caught with before . We haven't really seen in Billy we at least haven't seen in Billy have flaws exposed as much as jared anderson did against uh , charles martin , his biggest flaw was the .
Speaker 3Was it uh ? Devrin chenko , the one-handed , the ?
Speaker 4one thing that it wasn't a flaw .
Speaker 3He won , but it was like dude , you gotta , you gotta get him out of there .
Speaker 4When has derivin chenko ever been easy for anybody other than charlie ?
Speaker 3I gained so much respect for devrin chenko . That fight I've always had respect for him . But the Mbili fight I was like holy shit , this guy is like send him to fucking Ukraine . Fucking Putin will be like I'm out of here , bro .
Speaker 3Don't cancel me . That was just a funny , anyway . But what about ? I got to talk about it because again , me and Punch already did . But I'm going to post this one . I'm going to chop this one up and post it because I do have to get out of here early . But Kalem Walsh , my guy , great fucking guy . What do you guys think of this fight ? Who do you have ? Give me anything . Actually , I want to hear you Latino , because I already heard Punch , and then Punch I'll let you go . And Willie , I want your take on it too .
Speaker 2Okay . So like I don't know too much about Kalem Walsh , if I'm being honest , I've only seen little bits of him , but he is definitely going to be a problem for Vargas for sure . Now , because Fernando Vargas Jr , you know his upbringing I mean obviously his dad so he's got an advantage right from the get-go that you know he's going to have the best sparring possible from a young age and you know he's seen his dad train when he was a kid . Kids are like sponges , they absorb everything . So you definitely know that he's . You know he's no pushover . He's going to give a fight for sure , but I feel like Callum gonna win the fight it's just , it's not gonna .
Speaker 1I've never seen an irish fighter fight like him . He fight like he black . So I'm waiting to see . I can't wait to see what he can do next gary colin died , but he just didn't have a chin there's a fight .
Speaker 3There's a fight and it was one of cem Walsh's hardest fights and I was there and it's a guy from the Bronx , melo Villarreal , villarreal , and he is a tough , tough dude and I actually thought he did enough to win that fight , villarreal . And when you beat a guy like that , or you're even in the ring and go the distance with a guy like that , you're better than how you're portrayed , especially , as he said , like an Irish style fighter . So that's why that guy on your resume , compared to whatever Vargas , his whole resume is something and right there , gives him an edge as it is . So that's why I'm going with Kalem and the guy had beers with me and we were slapping fat people in the chest and shit .
Speaker 3It was a good night . That's another reason . Yeah , so we buy it . So no , but but for real boxing , prowess alone , resume matters and again , like my thanks for playing shirt says iron sharpens iron . Uh , when , when you , when you are in the ring with a guy like that , a high risk , low reward and via real right , not very marketable , not known , but everyone in the new New York scene knows him and he is a force to be reckoned with .
Speaker 2At least in the New York scene .
Speaker 3It's big , yeah , yeah , that's another thing . He's not fighting in Ireland . He's been in Cali with Freddie Roach , now Kalem Walsh , so it's time . This is a huge fight for him . This is a huge fight for him . This is a huge make or break fight and it's going to put him just not the opponent . The Vargas name is going to put him somewhere , but it's going to now put him in that realm of the next tier of boxing . I can't wait . Fun card man . I got to say that this is a fun card . I'm probably going to have people over here . I was going to do like a party , but what weight is that class Really ?
Speaker 2I could be wrong . Hold on , as we all go to search right now .
Speaker 3I just know he used to spar Jahai Tucker .
Speaker 1Austin , that's beautiful work . No wonder he fights like he black . He's really smooth out there . I love his style as an Irish fighter .
Speaker 2It's different 154 looks like 154 .
Speaker 3Damn , he's a big 154 too . I would say 165 .
Speaker 2A lot of these American fighters . They're kind of weight bullies man . They're huge when they sweat down like crazy .
Speaker 4Fernando Vargas . One of his last fights was Brad Solomon , who's a fucking former welterweight . Got knocked out by Blair Cobbs at welterweight . What , Ed .
Speaker 3Solomon , who's a fucking former welterweight , got knocked out by Blair Cobbs at welterweight . What's Blair ? I know he's not that great , but he's a draw . Blair Cobbs , where's Blair the Flairman ?
Speaker 1He was on air man .
Speaker 2He was on air . He's on air , Blair Cobbs for sure .
Speaker 4I saw him on a rumored card . I don't know who his opponent was . Let me look it up . I think he's rumored to be on the Connor Ben Eubank 2 card . That'd be , cool , mrfresh87 .
Speaker 3He should definitely be on that card . Underscoremrfresh87 says seen Kalem fight last month here in Cali . Yeah , man , they're promoting him right out there and he's with Dana White and the tko promotion stuff .
Speaker 4He's uh , he's rumored to fight kona walker .
Speaker 3Sorry , kona walker , I don't know who that is .
Speaker 1I mean , I don't know , that is either hopefully he's on that hopefully he's on that card , though , that card that you just said kind of been that . Yeah , it's rumored that'd be a great .
Speaker 4That's like this uh catterall versus the guy that just beat josh taylor speaking of connor ben pete .
Speaker 3Dobson is fighting pistol , pete , he's a new york guy .
Speaker 1He when he fighting , what car he fighting ?
Speaker 3oh , shit , I forget what car it's on , but it's not .
Speaker 1I've seen him training he was on , he was sparring somebody . I just seen him on it on a net too . I forgot . But back to the dead stay on track .
Speaker 4I'm sorry uh , you know what ? It kind of reminds me of nicholas flaws . Uh oh , he's gonna get killed , you think so ?
Speaker 3who's fighting nicholas flaws ? Uh , pistol , pete dobson ? Yeah , I don't think I you're high . I hate flaws because he beat jahai tucker . I fucking hate nicholas falls yeah , oh that's yeah , that dude , and I was there live and I'm like .
Speaker 4I know he's got a few losses on his record , but that dude I don't like him . Neither . I was hoping he'd fight Rashidi . He's sneaky , he's fucking , he's relentless , he's got good power , he's relentless bro , he comes forward . Go watch that . Jahai flaws fight though , bro . Yeah , I think jahai pulled that yo you in new york over there , I don't know where those , oh no that's my city for you .
Speaker 2Man bro over here in hamilton and it's like um people under people underestimate how crazy it is here for real , I'm gonna hit you up .
Speaker 3I gotta look before you came on . I'm going to florida for my guy , the heavyweight , lorenzo medina , fight , um , and you know , I I got . I'm actually going to like fright night . You know how it is , uh , when you have it , when you have a girl . Every time I go away for a boxing match . We got to do something nice , you know . So we're going to like oh 100 orlando studios fright night . Like yeah , so that's what we're supposed to go to six guys .
Speaker 3The third , um this guy's , mr fresh . The sirens are on the way to pick up Crawford Yo .
Speaker 2They're just waiting by the ringside
Knockdown Potential and Fight Outcomes
Speaker 2. Man for Crawford .
Speaker 3I gotta see , but we might do a little Canada trip and go to that card . I'll hit you up , man .
Speaker 2Oh , Montreal Dude , if you guys end up actually going , I might actually maybe I might go . I don't want to go to Canada .
Speaker 3so bad , yo , come with me . We'll talk after . Let's stay on track .
Speaker 2We'll stay on track , boys , because that's let's be friends over at that part of .
Speaker 3Canada . I'm going to start taking Adderall before these fucking , because I'm all over about boxing .
Speaker 1I'm like Sorry .
Speaker 2What fight is in Canada ? I grew up with Mary in the boxing community . I grew up loving Michaela .
Speaker 1Michaela was one of the fighters on Coach's trip . I was saying earlier yeah , yeah , we definitely getting kicked out over there .
Speaker 3Nah , they love me , top ring crew , they love me . You know that , yeah , but I'm saying we ain't came to the top ring . But yo , what were you saying ? Punch about Kaitlin Walsh ?
Speaker 4You had something to say , say , and then we just all , oh , you know what it kind of reminds me of , because it's like both guys are like semi-decently known , I guess . Right , remember when Benavidez and Plant fought and they actually put a good card under it ? Yeah , you remember the co-main of that fight ? No , it was Joey Spencer and Jesus .
Speaker 3Ramos yeah , joey Spencer is sneaky good .
Speaker 4Right and he had a little bit of hype around him . Same thing with Ramos . And then the fight happened and the guy who people were way higher on and had a bigger belief in beat the shit out of the other guy . And I kind of feel like this is a not quite to the level of that , but it's you know one . I feel like most is a uh , not quite to the level of that , but it's you know one . I I feel like most boxing experts are much higher on callum than they are .
Speaker 3Fernando jr boxing experts , yes , but but money wise and who's more marketable ? That vargas name and what his brother's doing , and yeah , exactly what his brother's doing yeah that and and that's another thing , this dude .
Speaker 4I don't know Callum's background , but I know that Vargas has never had a want go unmet in his life .
Speaker 3Yeah , do you understand what I'm saying ?
Speaker 4A lot of give me's yeah , and I think if the fight gets tough now , don't get me wrong . He's got power , he's got decent punching technique , but it's also like he's displayed that against . Oh , who's that list of opponents ?
Speaker 3right limited , I would say limited opposition like very I'm actually because I could have probably got caleb on the show . I just don't want to bother him . So close to a big fight I didn't . I get like you know a little . So after the fight win or lose I'm gonna try and get him on . We could all pick his brain . He's fun , um , I and I . One thing I think vargas thinks going into this is he thinks he's gonna have the crowd because it's cali but I don't even think the crowd's going to be full yet .
Speaker 4They're not going to fill in until the call .
Speaker 3I mean noise-wise , they show up for their fighters , but I don't think he's ready for the .
Speaker 1The Irish people fucking pay money , fly worldwide and they show up anywhere for their fighter and they're going to be there from the first fight With the flags .
Speaker 4I also bet Liam or Callum doesn't give a fuck about the crowd either way . Yeah , that's what I'm saying .
Speaker 3Vargas , that's the point I'm making . Vargas , that'll fuck with them . A little Like what the fuck With those soccer chants the Irish soccer chants .
Speaker 1Yo . When you see , did you hear them walking down New York City ?
Speaker 2Yeah , like it's crazy , terrence Serrano was just all soccer chance , especially in the area I was sitting there . I was like yo , this is sick . Join the crowd .
Speaker 3Yeah , I always tell people too , like the Irish fan base . Again , the fighters are a little underrated , I want to say , but when they come to America they get a lot of bad decisions , a lot of bad decisions .
Speaker 4I've seen , you've seen , we've seen live a lot of bad decisions . Who was that guy that that got robbed against barbosa last ?
Speaker 3year on the haney card . Oh , oh , oh , the the lanky guy . Yeah , he was irish , wasn't he ? Yeah , yeah , he beat the shit out of him . Barbosa had nothing for him . The tall , lanky guy , he got robbed . That was a huge robbery , yeah . And then we've seen live on the undercard . We've seen some shit like undercards like what the fuck ? And they get robbed a lot because they're not known and the crowd is always electric for their guy , like it is crazy . There's another one recently , the vito milanicki , for an irish guy . That guy turned out to fail a drug test .
Speaker 4Yeah , I was going to say that that doesn't matter .
Speaker 3That was another one where I was like , oh , I was rooting for Vito . That went draw though , didn't it ? Yeah , it was a draw , I don't think Vito .
Speaker 1Who was the tough one ? That's the one that we seen at MSG . That was the Vito .
Speaker 4That dude was tough . Yeah , because he was fucking I don't know what . Did they ever say what ?
Speaker 3Nah , they didn't say what , but they said banned , and no one commented . He popped hot for something , boy . It was tough . They were late , though , on that , I thought . Speaking of that . Yeah , dude , that fight was yeah , that was a long comment . That was Valentine's Day . Yeah , dude , that fight was yeah , that was a long time .
Speaker 4He's fought since then . That was .
Speaker 3Valentine's Day .
Speaker 1Yeah , for real Literally .
Speaker 3That's when I had the heart on my head . We got a lot of followers from me being a drunk hooligan .
Speaker 4Bro , I'm going to be honest with you . This fight card fucking sucks .
Speaker 3You think so . Not those three , though I think those three are good .
Speaker 1The three main , or whatever . I don't think people , I don't even know who's on the under-under fight I don't think people want to pull up and do the other fights .
Speaker 4The only other fight that's even somewhat notable in my opinion is Bo Huchuk versus Adams .
Speaker 3And that's even that should have been Bo Huchuk . They're kind of just thrown to the wind putting him on the under-under card $400 a nosebleed yeah , right I would not go , not , and again we talked about this , but not nosebleed in like a small arena . You're nosebleed in a fucking nfl football stadium .
Speaker 4Well , the turkey's doing this one thing . That's really annoying the fucking shit out of me . So he keeps putting that japanese guy and this saudi guy on these main cards , like do what top right does . Put them on the televised , the non-main card , but give them some exposure , build them up that way he's like the ambassador , or whatever , the ring ambassador of the Japanese , I don't want to see him on a fucking pay-per-view card .
Speaker 1I'm sorry , bro , he is tiny Bro that first fight . We've seen him in person . I didn't even know who that was person .
Speaker 4Yeah , I didn't even know , who that was .
Speaker 1We met him . We met him , dude , he's like dude .
Speaker 4They're both on this card , him , and that saudi dude that fights like uh , ryan garcia .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , I'm what's his ? Name smaller than me . He's like a little , I forget his name .
Speaker 2I know he's the type of guy where you know you literally have to hold his hand . Yeah , get a decision I will .
Speaker 3I will say that he's , he is getting better at the . You know , he's learning the ropes . You know what I'm saying ? I heard I'm not going to name a fighter , but there's a fighter that's really bad with money . I'll tell you guys off air . But there's a fighter that's really really bad with everything and money , but still in the mix for some reason .
Speaker 1I heard Turkey is withholding a lot of his money making sure he gets on track the heavyweight .
Speaker 3Okay , thanks , willie , but I heard , I heard he's withholding a lot of his money , like to make sure he gets , and you know he hasn't . And he's just withholding his money like no , this was in the fine print of the contract like you gotta , you gotta , do your thing to to get this money that I owe you , which is kind of he's . He's trying to promote good things in a sense with that . I mean , if that's true , if that's totally true .
Speaker 4I don't , I don't know . I just I just never thought in the current landscape that the PBC would be putting on a better card than Turkey . And they are . I got to call a spade a spade they are .
Speaker 3Let's talk about that card we got some time . Now You're talking about the the thurman announcement .
Speaker 4Yeah , the thurman fundora card .
Speaker 3That's a really good card , dude . I at first , when I first saw it , I'm like come on , what the fuck is this ? But then when you , when you watch uh fundora and how he gets hit , you're like wait , thurman , thurman might be able to do something here , like he's thurman's off , like five , seven bro , yeah , yeah . But look at Tim Zhu right , tim Zhu's not that big and he lost , you know , eventually . But he was fighting Fandora in that first fight . In that first fight , if he didn't get cut like that , I think he would have knocked Fandora out .
Speaker 2He would have won that fight if it wasn't for the cut , I think , but yeah the second fight Tim .
Speaker 4Zu's spirit was already kind of gone . He just looked like shit , bro . His footwork was terrible . They're calling me your boy Fulton . He's on there fighting .
Speaker 2I will give him that respect , though he ducked the champions at 126 . He's moving up to fight a bigger champion . I'll give him that . It's like all right .
Speaker 1Same thing . Fighting on that card ? Yeah , against Jesus .
Speaker 3Ramos and speaking of our guy Jahai Tucker man . I want Jahai Tucker to fight Shane Mosley Jr . That's my dream fight . I think Shane Mosley Jr he's done well . He got better from . I think he has a loss right . He got better from . I think he has a loss right . He got better from that , he's got a couple losses . Yeah , he showed improvement . That'd be a great name for Jahai . Yeah , I want my guy Jahai Tucker to . That's a great name .
Speaker 4You know who can fight for Jahai and I think it could happen . Who ?
Speaker 3Vito , oh yeah , they're boys , but yeah , they spar a lot , are they ? They're bullies .
Speaker 4But yeah , they spar a lot . They spar a lot , yeah . Or if you want to give Jahai a showcase fight , give him Butler .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 4I don't care what you're doing .
Speaker 3Oh , Stephen .
Speaker 2Butler yeah , I hope he kicks the shit out of Butler Butler sucks dude , I'm sorry . I don't like him , man , like he's .
Speaker 4you know , I personally don't like him , but you know what ? A lot of people have told me that ? Well , not a lot . You're like the buttery heat . I'll tell you I don't like Butler .
Speaker 2He was always just this arrogant dude . It's like , bro , who are you ?
Speaker 4I don't trust a white dude with a lineup .
Speaker 3He's overrated , dude , he's super overrated .
Speaker 4He's not good Stylistically though him and I really don't .
Speaker 3I will say though oh my God , dude N Parnellian just wrote okay , why am I not mentioned on here ? There you go . You're mentioned . Merry Christmas , there you go .
Speaker 4Bro , she called me today . I'm in the parking lot , oh good , she knows . Parking lot , oh I'm good she knows . I was in the walmart parking lot and she was talking about some shit with her job and she was telling a story like most ratchet chicks tell the stories like , and he fucking told me this . I told him that , dude , she , I don't think I said a word for like eight minutes . She loves , I'm just . I'm just letting you know what was this ? Oh yeah , she was trying to play me yesterday in the chat .
Speaker 2Like yo , you talk too much because I was trying to hype up the thanks for playing video that I uploaded today .
Speaker 4Who the fuck is harder to say . Anybody talks too much , Yo you ?
Speaker 2know what I love about me . That's when I found it funny . I didn't even take it seriously .
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Speaker 3I love when someone doesn't know a fighter Like you know we all know our boxing in that chat for the most part know we all know our boxing in that chat for the most part everyone's better in their own way at something right . But when someone doesn't know , like what's going on , she's like she's like who the fuck is this guy ? It was like andre burda . Like I like that , like yeah , she's just like because I'm like like I don't know who the fuck . That is , just be real . Like if you don't know , you don't know it's okay and I like that but , oh for sure , um yeah , what else we ?
Speaker 3Well , who else is on that undercard , though ? The PBC one ?
Speaker 4There was . There's one that I'm missing , but we got , you got the shop phone card , you got the as the co-main and you got mostly Ramos at 160 . So Ramos is moving up .
Speaker 2Oh shit .
Speaker 4And then 154 before .
Speaker 2Yeah , I'm looking right . The 154 before . Yeah , I'm looking right now to see the undercard . I don't know who Tony Harrison is .
Speaker 3Yeah you do . You know , tony , tony Harrison was like oh yeah .
Speaker 4Tony Harrison is on that . That's who it was .
Speaker 3He's coming off a win Always calls . Was it ? Who was it ? Charlo ?
Speaker 1I got to see his face .
Speaker 3Yeah , the Charlo fight where he did work .
Speaker 1I got to see his face . He won the first Charlo fight .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 4It was Charlo , and then he got knocked out in the second . But what's crazy is I thought he looked better in the second fight than the first fight Me too .
Speaker 3Same thing as I bet . I remember I bet on that . See , that's Tony . He actually yo Punch . When you commented to me you were like dude , look at his face . And I'm like holy shit , look at his face . And then I actually commented on his post and that promo they did . They gave him like a unicorn thing , remember oh yeah , his head . I actually commented and I was like dude , are we just going to ignore that ? He's got a bulge coming out of his head ? And he wrote ha ha ha . What the fuck . That's all it took , bro , fan for life . Love Tony Harrison . Clarissa Shields is like his boy . They're both Detroit .
Speaker 4He used to train your girl actually when she won her title . There's rumors they did a lot my girl or his girl . Yours .
Speaker 1Oh , Alicia yeah .
Speaker 4When she beat his girl .
Speaker 1Beat . Oh , I meant to bring that up . When we seen her , I meant to say like oh , I love when you beat Mikaela .
Speaker 3I should have said that in front of you .
Speaker 1I wanted to say that I forgot .
Speaker 3I was actually telling Latino Heat that I was like yo . She wasn't very tall Like Clarissa . Right , when we talked to Clarissa , clarissa is like very , like , very right away , boom , boom , yeah , like just a regular person yapping it up with us . Alicia was like fucking a little standoffish I thought she was .
Speaker 1She is standoffish um , I will say I think um carissa was there too yeah , that made it even more because she's so loud and like and yeah , it was . She is like she couldn't she , she wouldn't have no light on her , so she's like she wasn't them types , probably like you had to put the light on her type shit , I'm going to fix another drink .
Speaker 3I got like we got like 15 more minutes and then I got to start preparing for this draft . Latino if you're back around or punchlines , I know Willie's got to go when we get done Okay .
Speaker 4I want to watch Belichick's first college game .
Speaker 2What time should we hop back on ? In an hour or something ? What team are you ?
Speaker 3coaching for North Carolina . Hit me up and we can just go back . I'm not going to record it .
Speaker 4They're playing right now . I noticed the later we go , the more people come they're playing right now .
Speaker 1I noticed the later we go , the more people come . I picked TTU 100% .
Speaker 4They're the favorite .
Speaker 3I'm going to make a drink . You guys yap it up . We got 15 minutes and then I know you wanted to touch on the amateur circuit in Canada and Willie's the amateur guy out here Am .
Speaker 2I really , because I got to know I was , he was . Usa Boxing's got the same problem as uh canadian boxing . What no promotion ? Oh , dude , like I'm talking , yeah , the amateurs like the national team and just like the , the system and all that . Hey , I might get flamed at some point , uh , by one of them , but who cares , it's got , it's got to be talked , it's got to be told .
Speaker 1So what's going on ?
Speaker 2uh , but yeah , that'll be . That'll be later on , though , because , like right now , I actually do have to go so yeah , you have a good night , bro , you too like . No , I'll be back on a little later , like in an hour or so yeah , willie ain't gonna be there , though willie gotta . Yeah , we got it we'll get it , we'll get . Yeah , we'll get to that chat , don't worry . At some point For sure , all right boys Easy .
Speaker 1Later . Bro , I need to get back into that shit . Actually , what Amateur boxing ? Yeah , all my little mans and them , they be all fighting , they all up in there . Eric they all just won . Eric won .
Speaker 3Jaden won , just so you know , punch Eric and Jaden . It's like a cool combo when we live , like it's Hispanic and Polish . It's like crazy , there's a huge Polish population and a huge Hispanic population . And then you got . You know , north Amityville is very African-American , said correctly . See that I'm learning . No , but for real , it's a very diverse area in that regard is very African-American , said correctly . See that I'm learning . It's a very diverse area in that regard . But these two fighters that came up together and they're doing work in the amateurs , we saw them start from nothing . One's a Polish , curly-haired white guy who's a dog . Then Jaden Harvey . Jaden Harvey is like a black dude who fights kind of as a pro style , very patient and uses distance
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Speaker 3, and it's just cool to see them thriving .
Speaker 1They came up in our gym too .
Speaker 3Man Trained them a little bit , so it's cool to see them now , and like you see how they grow like body , wise , they getting big At that age , bro . They're what ? 17 , 16 ? Solid . Ripped up 14 , they were nothing , Little babies . Now I'm like what the fuck they live life , though .
Speaker 1They do the boxing . Well , the Polish do , eric , his dad is strict . I ain't going to say it . His dad was so strict . I didn't like how he was coaching them because he used to curse at them . Crazy in Polish and all that . I'm like , damn , take it easy on that drill , sergeant , shit yeah he was . He's still strict like that , but he's police too . I didn't know that , so that's so . This is like you know . He really is strict with him . But now his son , he won his first national , so that's him , him and jayden they .
Speaker 1They came up in the same gym . Jayden was taekwondo before he did taekwondo jayden harvey .
Speaker 3His dad was a pro too . His dad's funny .
Speaker 1He's always here from georgia taekwondo shit probably helped him with like uh , it's his point fighting system though , yeah yeah , like in and out , in and out on your feet when he spars .
Speaker 3They get fucking annoyed .
Speaker 1They get very annoyed , like because he's just distance patient , jab , jab like yeah you see a lot with like guys that come from like karate or taekwondo he's starting to sit down on his punches now , so it's like he's starting to get people out of it and his dad's smart , like so he , he was a righty .
Speaker 3I remember when I trained with him stuff he was a righty . Then in the come up his dad was like nah , you're gonna be a lefty , you're gonna be a lefty , so he's a natural righty . That just his dad drilled in him switch .
Speaker 1But now then his dad was like no more switching , you just don't want to go on the southpaw , which is cool technically he's a switch hitter .
Speaker 3Yeah , because he can really switch .
Speaker 1He did that in taekwondo . He kicked . He kicked both feet . He kicked me before with the body thing . Or I'm like yo , he was like 15 , I'm like yo . That's crazy . He kicked college , you know 16 he's 17 . He's 18 , he just graduated . Yeah , he just graduated , so he's cool to see , though , like the diversity he's going pro soon though .
Speaker 1Yeah and um his and jerry , his , his and his father is like Havoc . All of them Like he's close with Havoc and all of them the boxing . What's his face ? Who is what's McCauley ? You know him .
Speaker 3What's his damn name ? The bald hair , rozier Rozier , yeah , yeah , andre Rozier and him are boys .
Speaker 1Yes , he brought him to New York . Actually , Coach Jerry To box .
Speaker 3At Gleason's ? No , no , he brought him .
Speaker 3He basically talked , jerry into coming to New York and bring his son to box because of the New York circuit or whatever , but they train a little bit here and there . Rozier doesn't train at Gleason's anymore either . He just bounces all over the place . I think I don't think he has like a home gym Funny story about I heard that gym went downhill what uh , gleason's yeah , I mean it's still popular as fuck and everyone .
Speaker 3They throw a lot of amateur tournaments and and it's more of , though , like I don't know , the cops and kids in new york is what took over like cops and kids gyms because they're they're free and they're in every , they're on the bottom of every project . Towel is huge on the east coast , yeah , but like the new york city , cops and kids is like different , but they , they have gyms in the bottom of like projects right . So like you just walk downstairs and you're in a gym and it is good , it's good to see , but they kind of took over the amateur circuit . So always in on long island when , when we beat cops and kids , people were like like , yeah , but now the Long Island circuit is sneaky man , sneaky good , sneaky good circuit for amateur fighters . And we do have some pros out here , like Chris Algieri , obviously Our guy Alex Vargas .
Speaker 3His nephew , yeah , his nephew , his nephew , his nephew .
Speaker 1Yeah , his nephew is nice too , mike .
Speaker 3Mikey , mikey , algieri . He's going pro soon too , I heard , so there'll be another Algieri on the scene , does he ?
Speaker 4have just a strictly boxing background Because Chris had , like he was like a kickboxing world champion , a wrestling state champion .
Speaker 3He had like all kinds of shit in his background .
Speaker 1So Mikey , his nephew , I'm friends with his dad .
Speaker 3Big Mike .
Speaker 1He's got to be black , he's half half he .
Speaker 3I'm friends with his dad , big Mike , he's got to be black he's half-half , he's got to be half-half .
Speaker 1Yeah , he's half-half , he's definitely black .
Speaker 3He's just strictly boxing , boxing his whole life . His dad's a big boxing guy . He comes here sometimes Always drinking Heineken Lights . I'm like I got to go buy Heineken Light , sorry , but yeah , that's really it for the Spar Inboxing Podcast . Today we all got our picks in for the big fight fight of the century , whatever you want to call it .
Speaker 1I'm going to be on a cruise . Y'all don't know how I'm going to watch it . Mega fight . Oh , you won't be here .
Speaker 4Which cruise line ?
Speaker 1Oh boy Royal Caribbean .
Speaker 4I'm a little shocked .
Speaker 1Why is that ?
Speaker 4I thought you were going to say Carnival .
Speaker 3Why .
Speaker 1Why would you think he's going to say , carnival , okay , me and my daughter's going .
Speaker 2I would not be in Carnival ?
Speaker 3I'm just kidding , yeah they be wilding .
Speaker 1They shut everything down .
Speaker 4Bro , where's it going ?
Speaker 1Like Bahamas , or something yeah , Bahamas and shit . I really don't even know . To be honest , it is Bahamas , though I don't pay attention to that shit . I love cruises .
Speaker 3Some people hate cruises bro .
Speaker 1I went on one I've never been one , I went on one .
Speaker 3It's my first one , I went on one . We got the all-you-could-drink , all-you-could-eat package . The only thing was it was the food is good , it is good . Yeah , I'll never go on one of those fucking things .
Speaker 4Don't really . If it is , if you drink , bro there and you get the drink package , first of all I was in the fucking navy . I don't want to go cruising around on a boat , no more . But yeah , real talk . I had a dream that I talked to god and god said if I ever went back on the ocean I'd die . So I've always been really paranoid about fucking going out on a boat .
Speaker 3That's some really good weed man , you know what ?
Speaker 1I don't think you were supposed to say that before I leave .
Speaker 4No , it was directly to me .
Speaker 1I know that because it might just be transferred to me .
Speaker 3No , I feel what you're saying though , because , like I , people are always like , oh , and I was in the air force and I've been on a million planes all over the freaking world and out there , you know , you get like engine failures . We hit a bird once and like crazy , shit happens right , and people are always like , oh , oh , why don't you go skydiving ? Or I'm like because I I can't wait to go . I'll go on a plane , but like I'm like , I'm not going anything— I'm going skydiving .
Speaker 1I'm not flirting with the devil .
Speaker 3I'm not flirting with the devil .
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying I'd rather go out . I'll go out , like that I'm good . I'm good with my tequila and energy drinks .
Speaker 3Yo , but that's it . It is now 8.13 pm .
Speaker 4I got to chop this shit up . He's not the last guy .
Speaker 3Nah , I'm just winging it .
Speaker 4I can help . I just did my draft on style . How many teams is it ? I think 10 . I got to check it . Pr , standard PR yeah , save it . What pick are you ?
Speaker 3Two .
Speaker 4Go Bijan , Don't be tempted to take unless Chase is there .
Speaker 3I'm taking Saquon .
Speaker 4I think , think man at two you're an idiot , I don't know man .
Speaker 3At two he still got a chip on his shoulder . Bjorn I had bjorn last year and he did good at the end but it took a minute won me a championship again . This is a boxing podcast . We are out . Thank you all for listening . Uh punch , we'll keep in touch later later y'all peace .